PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - Jalen Hurts, Eagles out for QUICK REVENGE against the Giants

Episode Date: October 23, 2025

With or without A.J. Brown, the Eagles are in search for quick revenge against a Giants team that beat them two weeks ago as Jalen Hurts, Saquon Barkley, DeVonta Smith and Dallas Goedert look to back up an impressive offensive performance against the Vikings while Jalen Carter and Quinyon Mitchell look to help out a defense that missed them in the first matchup. Fran Duffy breaks down the matchup, EJ Smith has the scoop from the locker room and Bo Wulf does whatever it is he does. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello, everybody, and welcome to the P.HLY Eagles podcast live from the Xfinity Studio, presented by Bet365 and Ashley. I'm Bo Wolf next to me, Fran Duffy, next to him, E.J. Smith. We've got a stacked roster here on a Thursday as the Eagles prepare to look for vengeance against the New York Giants. Fran, how are you? Interesting. It's a real Philly, Philly guy take right there. What do you like about it? The turns.

Picture ask. Yeah. How about you, E.J.? I'm doing well. I'm doing well. This is the first time we've had a show at the same time as an Aston Villa game. Oh, yeah, you had a little setup out there. Yeah, no, but I'm going to compartmentalize.

And yeah, I'm excited for the show. I agree. It was a nice, it was a really nice morning. I walked my dogs this morning. Wasn't too hot, wasn't too cold. Just perfect day. And obviously a big week for the Eagles, E.J. I don't know about you, but being in the locker room.

yesterday. I don't know if you felt this way, but you could, you could kind of like palpably feel the vibe shift. And I do, I want to give credit to Howie Roseman for this because it takes a big person to write their wrongs. And when you looked at this team through seven weeks and how much they have uncharacteristically struggled along the line of scrimmage, obviously you, you scramble for answers and there's only so much you can do mid-season. So for Howie to, to, to, to, to, swallow his pride and make the important phone call that not only helps out a struggling unit on the field, but brings like real juice to the locker room. I think we all agree it needs it.

I give him kudos. And I just, I cannot possibly imagine the Eagles losing this week now that he's back in the building. It makes me so happy I kind of want to sing. I was going to say, you've been working on something before the show. You can't stop giggling. Wrong one.

Oh no, you're off to a terrible start, too. This is also the wrong one. Oh, my goodness. Here we go. Shout out. Recently departed. Ace freely. Oh.

We're going to get hit with the copyright on this. New Jersey guy. We're going to get hit with the copyright, probably. Oh, no. But it's going to be worth it. Many years since he was here. In Tampa, he was pissing his time away. On the left and on the right.

How we needed a fresh line guy, whether run or pass, who could block it right. Here he is. Back in the city for a handful of dollars. And baby, you better believe we're back. He made the sewer move. We're back. He made the SUA move. We're back.

He made the SUA move. We're back in a SUWA groove. It's a SUWA move. I got here around like 1245 and I could just tell that Bo was up to something. Like he had his AirPods in. He had the AirPods in. It's very quiet in the corner. Just like looking up on like rhyming schemes and every.

And he just couldn't stop like giggling to himself. He just couldn't stop. Just like you look over and he'd be like, like hyperventilating and laughing. So I got to be honest, I'm a little disappointed. I was expecting more. Well, it's funny you say that because that's not what was making me laugh.

Oh, no. So is there more? No. It's not Tuesday. We can't do this on a Thursday. Oh, my gosh. Oh, no. Long buildup on this one.

The Eagles play the Giants on Sunday. You can talk a little bit about the game while we wait for the song to hit. Definitely getting hit with a copyright. No, this is the instrumental. This is the karaoke version. I don't think it matters. I don't think that matters.

Ten more seconds. This is excellent podcasting. Everybody. Block that body. Everybody. Block that body right. Sue was back. All right.

There's more? Oh my god, he's back again. Brother, this is I want to say. Gonna bring out. Is he the new right guard? Is he sexual? What? You better block your body right, everybody.

Everybody wishes that your mic was having issues and not mine now. Everybody. Block that body right. Sue was back. All right. All right, we're done now. All right. So I have questions.

Do you think the Eagles commit to the under center play action this week? No. We have questions. Were there other songs that didn't make the cut? Yeah, Copacabana. Because it's sua. Suea opetta. It kind of flows nice.

You got to table that one. Yeah. Why couldn't you narrow it down to the individual? Just one one Both stick. Well, it's really more about, it was less about narrowing it down and more about how many could I fit in in the time.

Okay. Yeah. I would have done more if I could. I thought the Backstreet Boys won't hit better. Way better. Yeah. I think Sue Cooa-Cabana, whatever you want to call that one,

I thought that one, that sounds pretty good. Maybe for overtime. Maybe. I mean, I'm going to have to not listen to the show and work on it if you want that. But, oh.

So yeah, Sue is back and I'm feeling good. I also like Asua Opetta. Who doesn't? Yeah. I mean, could use him. Anyway, realistic, or for talking about the real stuff. Yeah.

Professional talker here. What did you think of the locker remastery yesterday? And like BG being back and everybody's reaction to that. and Jalen Hertz talking, what were your takeaways? Yeah, I definitely think that we can overuse the term vibes, but I do think that there was an energy shift that was notable in the Eagles locker room. And I think in general, yeah, I think like there's an outside feeling,

especially like as this AJ Brown social media posts, like kind of gains steam. But like I said this on Anthony's show this morning. Like I don't really get the feeling that like that really sends ripples through the Eagles locker room. And I do feel like, especially. with BG back. Like there's definitely like some positive energy in that locker room relative to maybe some of the outside discussion. Yeah, to me like the BG thing, I think, I think we can probably overstate the actual importance

on like the cohesiveness of the locker room and stuff like that. I do think, though, that just from a, like this guy is always bringing positive energy. Sure. I think that is nice. I think that it like, especially when, when you have like the lulls of the season, I think they will appreciate that. Yeah, I mean, you heard like Jordan Milata talking about how the music. a cut out during pre-practice stretching.

And you just hear Bigi like cackling and going like, I can hear you guys breathing heavy already, fat boy. Like, you know, like it's just, yeah, I thought my lot of put it well. It's like he didn't realize he missed it until he heard it again. Yeah. And then he realized like how, you know, how much they'd been missing. And BG said he was he was pleasantly surprised at how well he played. Jalen Hurd said that he made a couple plays.

He said like two sacks. Like, I don't know. He could play on Sunday. I think it was Tyler Steen said, like you can tell he's got fresh legs. Yeah. So I think like and that's not to diminish it like he just came off the street But that's why like I don't know maybe just let him play because he those legs may not be so fresh in three weeks Yeah, you know and he he talked on BGM blocked I thought that you guys had a great conversation for I mean like the first like 30 minutes Listening to him talk about like the whole process and the thought going into

You know his return and how like initially it might have happened a little bit earlier but he put he kind of put it off and said like let's wait a little bit But his arrival at this point in the season, I don't know. Like I usually am not one to feel this way about a game like midseason. I think this is a real like turning point like sliding doors moment for the Eagles here in 2025. Like this game in particular. Why is that? I think it's multi-layered. Number one, I mean, they're playing a team in the Giants that look, they should not have lost to this team two weeks ago.

It was an embarrassing loss on Thursday night football on the road against the team that they have historically dominated, that they are better in. than they're more talented than and you lose that game in that fashion where you know we said it afterwards like they got out physicaled on both sides of the football you're down a couple of your best players on defense no question but how they respond from that I'm interested to see then some of the changes that we saw offensively schematically last week is that was that a one week blip are they going to continue leaning into the under center play action stuff are we going to continue to see those things or was that just kind of like a you know a flash in a pan I'm fascinated to see what this team looks like. I totally agree. It is, it is really interesting to me

to see what the offensive game plan is. Yeah. Because is it, are we going to still try to run our head against the wall and we think we can get the running game right? And that, that undercenter play action stuff was maybe just more, uh, game plan specific or are they willing to be like, maybe this is our new identity. Um, that's very interesting to me. And also to the point you said, they didn't just lose to that Giants team. Like they got beat up. They got, they got out physical in that game. And so, you know, they're heading into the buy. There's some, sometimes you're like looking towards that, but I'm with you. I think this is like a really interesting how do they respond kind of game.

And like, I don't know, there's a, I could see them winning this game by three touchdowns. Yep. I would be disappointed if this is a close game. Yeah, I agree with you. And I think that like the thing I want to see most is like what you guys have been alluding to. Like, I want to see if the under center thing sticks. It kind of feels like that is an, like a hint of an identity that we're starting to see

this team figuring. out and I've heard so many players in the locker room talk about the ripple effects that they're hoping it has through the rest of the offense. Like they're hoping it opens up the run game and honestly like opens up the past game as well. You know, we've heard offensive linemen talk about the angles that it gives them the advantage that it presents for them. So yeah, I just want to see because we, I don't think that obviously the coaches aren't going to give up too much, but we haven't seen the coaching staff like really lean into like, yeah, we think we found something here. It's been a lot more like it's what that game presented to us. I want to see if they lean

into that and kind of stick with that because it did feel like at the end of that Vikings game that that was a step toward something that, you know, puts the defense in conflict. And we've just seen them, they haven't done that enough. They haven't done that enough offensively through the first few weeks. I think the other aspect of it as well is that, you know, you mentioned, you're so close to the by week. You're also so close to the trade deadline. And so what this team looks like here this week, I think could determine one way or another. Does Howie Roseman decide that they're going to push their chips in and try and make a move to bring in a vet? Does that alter your decision in terms of like the AJ Brown of it all.

You know, getting close to the trade. To me, like, there's so many different outcomes on the table with how this game could play out. Really quick, Fran. I need to know what's your favorite fake trade from Tuesday. Did you have a favorite? Besides Alante Taylor, because I feel like that's the obvious one. Yeah.

You have to go through all 26 again. No. There were a few that come by there. A few of there was like, oh, that would never happen. I was like, oh, let's say you probably were too distracted by a little. like my terrible compensation. Listen, it's hard to nail it. Yeah, it's hard to nail that.

Yes. But there was, it was funny as Beau that said a couple times, like, if Fran were here, he would say this. And I was sitting in my car listening. I was like, yes,

I am saying that right now. But I would, I mean, the Alante Taylor one, that is a scenario that makes sense. Like the, the Jermaine Johnson, like those makes,

those kinds of teams, those kinds of players, they make the most sense. So let me ask you this question. Do you think we're going to see them lean into that on offense. The under center? Yeah.

I would think so. And I'll tell you, like, the reason why I feel like they could is because I think that there's been at least a perception for a few years now that the reason they didn't do more under center, under center looks is because of Jalen's apprehension or maybe, you know, a lack of comfort in those looks. And also the fact that like the quarterback run game is harder to access from under center. And we're going to talk about that later in the show. I think the fact that Jalen came out and said that he pushed for it,

I think that's an encouraging sign that they could lean into that. And especially with the, I mean, you have to take him at his word on that, right? But like, the fact that he came out and said, like, that's something that he pushed for. I think, like, if you're telling me that that's not an obstacle for the under center run game, I do think that it's something that they should lean into more. Him saying that does put the ball in their court to say like it. Because now if they don't do it, that to me, like, that creates a story. Yeah, right.

So I, for that reason, again, it seems like the players really, really appreciated those different looks and they liked what it, what it did to the offense. So it would be, like Fran said, it would kind of feel like a step backward if they were just like, this isn't the week for it. We're not going to do it. All right. Let's take a quick break to hear from some sponsors. On the other side, we'll get into the specifics of this matchup. We're going to talk about the quarterback run game.

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the one that's sweeping the nation. If you thought we were done with the music on today's show, I'm afraid you're wrong. Lindsay, hit it. Something or nothing. What's it going to be? Something or nothing. Let your voices free.

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Something or Nothing I love that I was like I don't know if we're going to do something or nothing today We've got a lot to get to And you're like let's just either Either a day or tomorrow we have to get it out VG worked hard and turned that around today That was incredible

but now you were up to all kinds of stuff before the show today. Can you get one day off from the show and oh, you can just cook up all kinds of things? That was great. Yeah, so we have something or nothing. Again, shout out to VG. VG's song for my spots on Anthony's show gets stuck in my head so much. So anyway, all right. That was unbelievable.

That was great. Awesome. It's like very, it's like very rewarding for the people who listen every day and know about the Beatles takes and everything else. So, yeah, our one something or nothing today is going to be Jalen Hertz's designed shotgun runs per game. I was trying to figure out a way to get the tush pushes out, but also maintain that like sometimes he will run in short-yarded situations out of shotgun. So, Fran, I know we had talked about this earlier in the week, but I wanted, I want to know if you can guess maybe. Do you want to guess or do you just want me to tell you? I'll let you decide.

Let's do a guess. Okay. If I told you that it was 4.6 in 2022, this is per game. 3.4, each of the last, well, 3.4, 2023, 3.5 in 2024. What would you guess his shotgun runs per game were in 2025? Like 1.2? We got a graphic. Maybe we can do a big reveal.

We got a graphic. 1.4. It's a pretty good guess. Yeah, interesting. My question. For the audio listeners, 4.6 in 2022, 3.4.4.2. point four in 2023, 3.5 in 2024, less than half 1.4 in 2025. So my question for you guys, like we have not seen a quarterback inclusive run game. And the significance for it for me is that

like we've heard so many players talk about how how big that is to the run game, especially out of shotgun, you know, what Jalen Hertz does to those backside defenders. And, you know, the importance that it's had, you know, even last year, Saquan talked a lot about having Jailen as part of the run game. what it opened up for him. So do you feel like the drop-off in quarterback run game is something or nothing for the Eagles run game production? Absolutely something. No doubt about it.

And I don't know. It's hard to decide how much of a clear decision they're making to run Jalen less is affecting Sequin and his production. I don't know if I don't know if I'm there yet. Yeah. But there's no doubt that they're choosing to run Jalen less. and I do think it's affecting the offense to some degree. I think that it has taken away a tool that has been really useful for them in the past.

And so if things aren't working with the inside zone or, hey, they're not getting the good kickouts on their counter run plays, being able to utilize Jalen Hertz in the zone read and the QB counter reads and all the different QB option runs that have been at their disposal in recent years, yeah, that's a pretty good weapon that they haven't been able to use as well. I do think that there are things they can do to kind of mitigate that a little bit. And it's not necessarily like all schematic either. Like I think that if you're looking at the RPO's that they do run and the zone

reasons that they do run where Jalen is not giving it. Like he can do a better job of carrying out his fakes and making sure that he's executing there from that standpoint. But yeah, the lack of a threat from the QB run element, I mean, that's a big deal. And you know what's interesting to me about it, Fran, is that there were a lot of times where it felt like, like, Jalen was audibleing to them, you know? You know, those quarterback draws in the red zone, right? Like, he would call his own number on those a lot.

And so that must be clearly a decision that he has made to not do that. So I went to a couple of players, and I was wondering, like, why is it that we haven't seen as much quarterback run game, whether it is, like, the zone reads or the design runs. And the answers are, I would say that, like, it leaves room for interpretation. You know, Jordan Milada and Landon Dickerson both said, like, that's a good question for Kevin Petullo. They both mentioned that, like, they do see certain looks against certain defenses where they'll have two players, like, designated one for the dive, and then one for Jalen Hertz. Like, they'll have two players on the second level responsible for each element of his own read, which I guess, you know, which does take away that, like, conflict defender, the way that you would usually run those. And then a lot of talk about, like, six-man fronts and how the looks that they have.

maybe don't present themselves, especially like those quarterback draws out of empty, like you only have five guys to block, I guess, like a lot of times that defenses can take those away by the pre-snap. Look, Jalen, when I asked him about it, he really, like, I mean, it's a long quote, so we're not going to go through the whole thing, but basically talked about the process of, like, you know, getting a flow and, like, having a consistency with the play caller and the quarterback and talked about how that those two, like him and Kevin Petula are the ones who are most acutely affected by the instability at offensive coordinator.

Now, we've heard Jaylen talk a lot about this when discussing a lot of different topics, but I did find it interesting that that was what he pointed to when I asked him about the lack of quarterback game that we've seen from the Eagles this season. I think the, yeah, I mean, you guys, there was an episode a couple weeks ago where you were talking about some of the issues and I think you ranked like the order in which like they can be fixable and not. Yeah, yeah. And I think you guys talked about the lack of QB runs as the one that is the most

easily fixed. Like that's by decision, they're deciding like, hey, we're not going to do this. But at any point, they could decide, all right, we're going to lean back into this. We're going to open up this part of the playbook. And it's possible that they do do that. Yeah, my lot of said that, like, those calls are still part of the plan. He said that, like, because I wanted, I asked him, like, is it like the type of thing where it's like it's week seven?

Like, we aren't going to have our quarterback run the ball unnecessarily. like, is there a hint of like, you know, saving some of this stuff for higher leverage situations? And he didn't really, you know, he didn't really, he didn't say that that's the case. He said, like, if it is the case, I wish they would tell me, you know, something like that. But I do think, like, his, he mentioned that, like, it is still part of the run game and the offense. We just aren't seeing it for whatever reason. All right. I'll do it for something or nothing. Should we talk about AJ Brown?

We should. Yeah. I wanted to get to some of the injury news. coming from the NovaCare complex. The Eagles just, I mean, the open part of practice was a few minutes ago. They opened a window. Per our friend, Zach Berman, AJ Brown did not practice for a second day in a row. Yeah, but didn't they open the window for Darius Cooper? They opened the practice window.

They did. They did open the window for Darius Cooper. That's the more important thing. Who needs AJ if you got to D.Coop? I appreciate your commitment to the bit here, but. No bit. Not a bit. AJ Brown missing practice for a second day in a row with the hamstring injury.

Listen, I mean, I saw my former colleague, Jeff McLean, reported that he is trending toward playing still. But I mean, you know how hamstrings are. Like, I hate to be the broken record on hamstrings, but it is a tricky injury. And, you know, it's probably going to be the type of thing where tomorrow is going to be huge. And then really probably through the weekend. Something or nothing, the AJ Brown post from yesterday. I if the post in a vacuum I would actually say nothing like but the post in the context of like we've reality a.

Like I well I hate attributing like social media posts to anything I don't like reading into yeah because it could be about yeah right exactly but I do think because of the just I mean it's been the whole season at this point that AJ has been clearly frustrated pushing for the offense to look a certain way pushing really I would have thought for the offense to look the way it did against the Vikings he's clearly still got some frustration I mean maybe I shouldn't say clearly but the post would suggest that there's still something behind the scenes there but I go back to like the conversation I had with him not I guess last week yeah last week about like he really like I think when he posted like the cryptic bible verse and was clearly like as he would put it kicking up dust behind

the scenes pushing for the offense to look a certain way. It seems like the fact that it didn't happen. And I mean, you could make, like, it didn't happen right away. It seemed to, like, change something with his approach. You know, you said, like, I'm just, I don't care. I'm starting not to care. Feels like I'm fighting by myself. Like, you know, I don't know.

How many turkeys you put on the possibility of him being traded? At the deadline? At the deadline. This season. I would put like 15 still. I think the off season, we'd have a real conversation. I'd still be surprised if it's at the deadline. What about you?

I might be a little higher than that. It'd be a little bit higher. I think a little bit higher. I will say the fact that he has missed two straight practices with that post after having, you know, the passing game looking the way it did, not great signs, but I'm with E.J. That it's like, I don't want to make too much of it,

but I don't think it's, I don't think it's nothing. Well, here's my question. If you're Harry Roseman and you believe that it is an eventuality that you're going to have to trade AJ Abrams, when would you get the most for him? Do you think the value changes very much from the deadline to the offseason? The deadline is usually more of a seller's market. It is. Golden Tate.

Like, if you think you can get. a one and a two for him right now? I don't know. I mean, they take on a bunch of dead money, but there's a price where that becomes worth it. Sure, and like also, you just get the dead money out of the way at some point too.

So I, to me, I still think, especially, I mean, if they lose to the Giants, maybe that does change the picture a little bit, but to me it's like you don't trade one of the best receivers in football if you think you have a chance at winning a Super Bowl. And I... And if you have a chance of, and if you think you have a chance of mending their relationship.

Yeah, I'm not saying. I also feel like if you're, if you're Howie Roseman, like AJ Brown's Instagram post is not the reason you're going to trade him. Like you... Oh, absolutely. Of course. It's just a sign of what is beneath the surface.

Right. Yeah. And I think that all of those things, you can address them in the off season. I think, like, you know, I said a couple weeks ago, like you owe it to the window to not,

like, play these types of games. I feel like it is still true. Like, if you think you can win a championship, you don't trade away a player like that. Yeah. It's also fair to point out, like, I mean, when is the last time how he traded a player, like,

that, of that level, you know? Like, he is, he acquired his player. For him, it is without precedent. Yeah. I think it would, yeah, I still, if you ask me, like, Turkey's in the off season, I might be as high as, like, 50. Maybe you've higher, but at the deadline,

here is my prediction is that if, for whatever reason, if he does trade A.J. Brown, he makes a separate deal for another starting caliber receiver. Oh, interesting. That's fair. Yeah. Makes sense.

Yeah. Or maybe you reset the clock and draft one, draft one high. Yeah, but that I don't think he is not, he's not giving up on a season. Right. Oh, you're saying if he does it at the deadline. Okay. At the deadline. Yes.

Okay. Yeah, I don't know. It seems precarious. And it's crazy because, as you said, this last game was as good of a offensive performance as they've had. That's why it is strange. But even like after the touchdown, like the broadcast caught it, like, clearly both of its touchdowns, like, There is some like, pent up frustration in those for sure.

It's not just not. We've talked about it. It's not just like, get me the ball. It's more than that. I think it's more than that. Yeah, I would agree with that.

All right. Let's take a break. Hear from some sponsors. On the other side, we'll get into this specific matchup, what you can tell us about what didn't work and what maybe the Eagles need to change

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Must be 21 or over and physically located in Pennsylvania. If you or someone you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call 1-800 gambler. For an A.J. Brown for Christian Gonzalez, who says no? Oh. That's a good one. you get that from the chat? No, I came up with that weeks ago.

I think the chat GPT gave up though. Let's get to the super chats. Dinkleberg has a question on the topic for you, E.J. He says, E.J., can you speak more about your piece on the comments that AJ made last week in regards to kicking up dust in the locker room? He says, I'm not doing it again,

and I'm just starting not to care anymore vibes seem bad man yeah i i think i mean like it's a fair reading of the situation i i think that a j if you look at each of the last few years there have been instances where he has done this it's you know it has looked different different years but there have been times where he publicly acknowledges or calls out the way the passing game looks and i think that in past years he probably has been like vindicated or validated by the fact that like pushing for the past game to look different the win that they had against the Panthers last year, where he comes out and says passing the following game against the Steelers,

like they throw the ball all over the yard, right? Like, I think that is something that he kind of feels like a lever. He feels it's a lever that he can pull. And I think this year is a different case where, I mean, from the very beginning of the season, he's been talking about the passing game needing to, A, like, look different, be more aggressive, but also run through him. And we haven't seen that.

Now, again, I thought the Vikings game was a step in that. direction. The fact that you get the Instagram caption, that's why I like, I want to hear from AJ at some point this week to know exactly like what was behind that. But I do think the fact that this has lingered and this has been something that has consistently like shown up throughout the season speaks to the fact that like he wants the offense to look a certain way. He wants to be the driving force for the offense when it's struggling. That hasn't happened this season. And I do think that like the fact that he pushed for it for about a month and it didn't happen, I think that that did change his mentality about some of these things his approach about some of these things. But the only

other thing I want to point out and like, you know, maybe like balance this a little bit is like, like it is strange. Like the way that AJ has been this season, I don't, there's no way to like spin it into a positive. But I do think like if you walk around the Eagles locker room, like I actually heard like Devante Smith talking about AJ yesterday. And like I don't think it affects his teammates as much as you, well, at least like the, I don't think it affects the consensus in the locker room. Well, as much as I'm talking about like he's, he's tight with Reed and Cooper, right? Right.

Yeah. They've become good for us. I think that he has a lot of good relationships in that locker room. So like when he posts something like that, I don't think the, the internal reaction is as drastic as the external reaction. I do think that like there is, there are parts of the Eagles locker room and certain figures in the locker room and in the building that. probably feel differently, but I do think like, you know, AJ said a couple weeks ago, like people

aren't mad at me. He's trying to start a mutiny or a revolution. It is an internal struggle that he has. Well, that's why he said he feels like he's doing it by himself. He feels like he's fighting by himself for the passing game to look different. I think that, but I do think there are people who agree with him. I think that there are people in that locker room who feel like what he's pushing for is the right thing. And again, I just think that like there's not like a, there's not as much like of a strife or like yeah like you said like there's not like a mutiny around AJ's frustration but I do think that players understand it yeah I think that's good context like there was another chat that actually had something to do with that potentially or super chats

yes from Musa who said that a number of players on offense liked his post on Instagram yeah well again I don't know yeah I mean you're double tap in you know but I do think that there are I I know that there are players who agree with AJ yep so uh Joe Rockhead says they came up with five million out of nowhere for BG, but couldn't spend money for Becton. Where does that money come from? Now, I think BG, it's actually, he gets paid what's pro-rated, which is like two points on things. So it's less, but still, I think their decision to move on

from Mackay Bechtin was not about the money. They were moving on from Mackay Beckton. That's the truth. And Polar Jam says, just take my money, Bo, LMA. I think that was from the beginning of the show. That was the very beginning of the show. He didn't hit you with a ha-ha and nothing else. Take note of that.

Would you rather get the response immediately from someone who's distracted or would you rather wait and you get a response like four hours later that's like ha ha ha ha. I'd rather wait for the response. Also, Asson Villa lost to a team that I hadn't heard of before this week. I'm so sorry. It's tough. It's really tough. We're like Aston Villa. Thanks.

Glad somebody sold it. L.O.L. All caps. all lowers or just capital first L than lowercase OOOO. It depends on what kind of LOL we're talking here. All caps LOL is like, that's pretty high up the power rankings

of ways to let somebody know you're laughing. Lowercase, if it's just lower, if you literally just text all lowercase LOL, that's kind of like passive aggressive. Yeah, I agree with that. But at the end of something, if I say LOL, that's kind of... Capitalize it if it's the end of a sentence, yeah.

Yeah, but at the end, if you just do lowercase LOL, I think that's kind of just like, that's like the equivalent of like smiling when you're saying something to me. Yeah. Yeah. You're saying that you're saying isn't just.

All right. We've got about five minutes to talk about the game here, Fran. What do we need to know? Well, it made it tough going, because we just talked about this team two weeks ago. Yes. Yeah, we just talked about this team two weeks ago.

So not a lot has changed. I think that when you're talking about this giant's offense, a lot of it has to do with containing, Jackson Dart, pressuring Jackson Dart. His numbers will, and his efficiency,

go down significantly when he's pressured. If you're able to pressure him and heat him up a little bit, you're going to force him into some mistakes. I mean, look. But the tackles are playing at a high level. Tackles are playing.

Well, the left tackle is playing really, really well. The right tackle is getable. I think the right tackle, you could definitely get them, Illuminaur. I think Andrew Thomas is playing really well. I think that they, right, I think I saw a stat earlier,

they lead the league in unblocked pressures. So basically a free runner is getting home to the quarterback. So, and not always from blitzes. Like, you know, some of it's from four man rushes as well. And so that's like the sim pressure, Zach Bond, Jahad Campbell type of thing. You know, if they're able to find ways to be able to do that, they've got to do a better job of containing them in the pocket and finishing for tackles in the backfield. They did not do that well enough in that game two weeks ago on Thursday night football. He had a career high in rushing yards in that game. Denver did a much better job of containing Jackson Dart this past week. When you look at Jackson Dart in the box score this past week,

impressive. He had like five balls that could have been picked off. Okay. There was one, there was a, there was a deep post down the field where two safeties ran into each other. You had a tip ball in the end zone that got caught for a touchdown. You had a tip ball that the tight, that was, that the tight end picked up or was able to catch mid-flight and run 40 yards for a touchdown. Like, they had a screen that went for a big play. The, the past, he is much more of a threat with his legs than he is with his arms at this point. If you're able to pressure him, I think that they can get the better of Jackson Dart. So there wasn't anything,

because my memory of that game is mistackles, getting pushed out the ball. Yep. It didn't seem like they were getting out-schemed necessarily. No, there were a couple of plays here and there. Danaz broke a couple of those down. I guess it was, yeah, last week, you know, the four-by-one stuff.

You know, look, there are going to be plays like that in the game. It's really, you know, to me, like going back to that game on Thursday night, they had explosive plays. Some of them were mistackled. some of them were busted coverages, some of them were late in the down,

scramble drill type of plays. You just got to limit those. I think if you cut those in half or more, I think it puts you in a much better spot to be able to win this game. The Giants were really good on third down. You got to get off the field on third down. I think when you look at a number of those key areas,

if you regress even a little bit to normalcy, the Eagles win this game. And obviously you get Jalen Carter back. Hopefully you get Queen on Mitchell for the whole game. This is the game that made you worried about the defense. Well, I was worried about him from the Broncos game. But yeah, this is the game where you're right. This is now just become like your thing.

Well, I'm sorry. You want to live in 2024 and pretend like this is an elite defense. Nothing this season is not a 20 fifth and successful. It's a strong man. It's not a straw man. Nobody's saying that they're the best defense in football. But like relative to what the Eagles offense looked like in that game, I still like, I don't know how much stock you put into it.

The defense has barely been good. And they're living off of big plays. Correct. I agree. I think that's right. So they need to play better. I still think relatively you worry more about, especially after that game,

you worry more about what the Eagles offense looked like. I think that's right. I think both of the things you guys consider are right. Yeah, now we're just arguing like different parts of the argument. Yeah. Other side of the ball, Giants defense? Giants defense, you know, the big thing that hurt them in that game a couple weeks ago,

was their ability to pressure Jalen Hertz with those, when they get the three pass rushes out in the field at one time. When you get Burns, Carter, and Thibodeau all out in the field at once, some of the pressure packages and the stunts that they were able to run. Brian Burns has been wreaking havoc on opposing offenses throughout the majority of this year. He's one of the leaders in TFLs. He's one of the leaders in pressures.

He's one of the leaders in sacks. So you've got to limit number zero, Brian Burns. But again, those pressure looks are going to be something the Eagles are going to have to contend with. They're going to try and see if they can push those buttons again, having Landon Dickerson in there, I think will be a, you know, that'll go a long way towards trying to limit some of that. Jalen's going to have to play better. He didn't play great in that Thursday night game.

So having him play at a level that even if it's not what it was last week, if he's able to play, you know, three quarters of that. I think that would be that would be really helpful. It would be nice to see the run game, you know, get going a little bit. They were able to do that early in the game. Yeah, remember that? It was like, yeah, they had

first down runs in a row. To me, in that game, they got away from it. I think, and I think in some of these other games, it was more like they kept trying and it wasn't really working well. I think they had some success, especially getting the ball out in the edge against the Giants. I would like to see them continue to try and do that. But honestly,

like the other big thing is like the undercenter play action stuff. I'm fascinated to see if they're able to keep pushing that button here with success. A quick note. Per Dave Zangaro, Brett Tooth took reps at center with Cam Juergens out with a knee injury for a second straight day. It doesn't feel good for Cam Durgan's. Like for a tip to play.

Oh yeah. And I, I, I, I would agree. Sorry, I thought I said something. And it's more, yeah, the question is it going to be Tooth or Kendall, and so it seems like it will be Tooth. Yeah, I mean, I would... Or Dickerson, it could have been, right? Yeah, it could have been Dickerson with Matt Pryor at left guard. I would have been interested in that, especially in a game where you're expecting to see

Dexter Lawrence, like, at nose tackle at times. I, for that reason, I didn't think this was a good week for, like, Drew Kendall to get an opportunity. That's true. That's valid. Although I kind of want to, I want to see what Drew Kendall looks like, but he's not going to be the game day backup because Toth has more versatility than him. So, if it would be.

was like a different opponent I would have been probably a little bit more intrigued by uh drew kennel possibility but yeah it seems like toth might be the the right answer there i am i am absolutely rooting for brettoth i think it has been like a uh a very interesting journey for him great got to talk to but you know given the fact that he has been a journeyman for so long and he is in this position it is this is stout's decision and if if toth has another bad game it kind of falls on Stout. Yeah, I think that's fair.

I mean, this is the guy who he would have gone to bat for. Yeah, I think it's fair. I mean, I think we've wondered out loud before about, like, what is it that Jeff Stoutland loves so much about Brett Toh? I think it's the versatility as a game day backup,

but now this is like a starting role. There's a reliability. Yeah. Yeah, but like a reliability, but with a low ceiling. So I do think, I mean, maybe we see, like, maybe we see a scenario

where they have a quick hook with Toh and it is Dickerson at center with Matt Pryor at left guard. I think Pryor would be fine at left guard, by the way. Like, I know he's struggled at tackle. I think he'd be okay at guard. I think that's right. And I think Toth, honestly, I might feel a little better

about him at center than I do at guard. Sure. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Do you want to get the other injury stuff out of the way really quick? Sure. Adori Jackson is out with a concussion right now.

Aziz Ojalari is out with a hamstring injury. Jeremiah Trotter Jr. out with an ankle injury. Jacorian Bennett has been limited. He's coming. has this practice window open. Calcutera limited with an oblique, Dallas Goddard limited with a calf and Morrow, a Jomo limited with a shoulder. I did

not include Landa Dickerson in that. He was limited on Wednesday, but my guess is that's a management thing more than anything else. I agree. So do you expect Kiley Ringo to start? Yeah, I would say so. Vick just keeps talking about like he's going to keep getting opportunities. So, yeah, especially like, even if Vodori Jackson returns to practice by the end of the week,

you know that the practice reps are going to be important there. Practices matter. Practice is important. No. Practices is important. practice is important that's what Vic keeps saying so yeah I think that Keeley probably is going to start this week How do you feel about Keeley with the short hair?

You know Jordan Davis did that a few years ago and it seemed to work for him it's got to be a big thing like an identity thing Yeah so Ask Nixiriani Yeah right Baldiani maybe this is like the That's shout out to my wife That is her expression she coined that

And really quickly she did say that our dog started howling when you sang earlier in the show. Now we're talking. All right. Last break. Coming back with Swooper. Hey, Eagles fans. You know who's playing championship level car deals every single day?

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who says any word on AJ's availability for Sunday. Yeah, I mean, yeah, we talked about it earlier. I would still, it gets worse as the week goes on. No doubt. Yeah, so we'll see. Okay. Yeah, I don't feel great about it. Time for Swooper.

Last week, E.J. had two items. A.J. Brown has fewer than 45 yards receiving. Winner gets a turkey bonus for every point A.J. Brown accounts for in the game if the item does not hit. Did not hit. A.J. Brown scores two touchdowns. Great outcome for you. So you got 12 turkeys. Honestly, this worked out so much better than if it hit.

And you had an Eagles wide receiver catches a pass of 20 plus air yards with Isaiah Rogers as the nearest defender happened multiple times, so he got one. I had Sequin Barclay surpasses at least one of his season highs. Did not happen. The Eagles have fewer real drives without a first down than do the Vikings. Did not happen. The Eagles defense

out sacks the Vikings defense did not happen. A former eagle is involved in a turnover. Thank you, Carson Wentz. And the Eagles win, I hit that, paid 17 turkeys for it. Fran, a player with the jersey number corresponding to the number of turkeys for which this item sells scores a touchdown. Jordan Edison

no touchdown. Carson Wentz accounts for more turnovers than Jalen Hertz. Yes, he did. Jalen Hertz is sacked more times than Carson Wentz and J.J. McCarthy. Yes, they were. The Eagles attempt an under center play action pass. Boy, who was in the meeting room that week. And then the broadcast shows video or photos from Super Bowl 52. Didn't happen. You got three. You are back on the board. A disaster for me to pay. I didn't think there was any way I was going to get the Eagles win and not get any points out of it. And so, Fran on the season, two wins. You've got 25 turkeys with which to bid this week. E.J. and I are still tied up at the top with two and a half, but E.J. has 36 turkeys and I've got a paltry 14 as we prepare to get going. Built away. Two and a half,

two and a half two, right? Yes. For anybody's game right now. And the order this week is Fran E.J. Bo. Correct. Professor. So kick us off. Man, trying a one-game win streak? Let's go with my first one. A tight end scores a touchdown in the game. For either team. For either team. Any tight end.

VJ. Jenkins scores. DJ celebrates. Important question. Cameron Latu. lined up as a fullback, but Liss has a tight end. Lottu's a tight end. Lottu's a tight end.

All right, where are we starting the bidding? What about Fred Johnson? Well, that's a good one. Oh, great question. I think if you're counting Lato as a tight end, you cannot count the offensive line as a tight end. Yes, I think we'll let's take that off the board.

What the position they're listed, not the position they're lining up. I'm fine. I am fine with that, withdrawing the line there. Okay. Wait, what if, how about we let the,

no, no, we can't do that, never mind. I was going to say let the winner decide if they want Fred Johnson or Cam Lotton. No way. All right. In what world with the winner,

not what that happened? No, I'm saying like let the winner decide which one. They get to include. No, because there are other possibilities. I think it's good to say the position there they're listed on the roster and not where they line up. Okay.

Where are we starting the bidding? I'm going to start the bidding at three. Four. Five. Six. Six going once. Six going twice. Seven.

He can have it. Seven going once. Seven going twice. Sold to Fran. Theo Johnson, his second year tight end out of Penn State. He scored four touchdowns this year. all of them since Jackson Dart has entered the lineup in week three. Daniel Bellinger scored his first touchdown last week.

And then Dallas Goddard. He had a touchdown against the Giants in week six. Leads the Eagles with five touchdowns this year. That's why I went with this submission. All right. Over to you, E.J. All right. My first submission, you guys like the Saquan Bark League season high so much.

I brought it back more or less. So the first one I have is Devante Smith surpasses one of the following. 10 catches, 125 yards. or 14 targets. Obviously, I couldn't go season highs because he had like the best game of his career. Yeah. But I wanted to go with some lofty numbers.

Now, again, we don't know if AJ Brown's going to play in this game. If he's out, you feel like that's a pretty heavy workload day for Devante. I'm going to start the bidding at three. I am curious to see if the Eagles can have a functional passing offense without AJ Brown. I think that it was actually kind of an interesting test case. Maybe him being out is actually a negative. In years past, they have not been able to.

In the past three years when AJ's been out, even with Devante, the offenses looked horrible. Yeah, I was thinking of it. Like, if AJ doesn't play, it makes it more likely. But that's a good point. Maybe the passing game is just disjointed. Four? I started at three.

So I'll go four. Okay. Five. Six. Seven. Seven going once. He's got it. Seven going twice.

So, DJ. Devante has never had a 100-yard game against the Giants. Has he ever had back-to-back? I should have worked out. Item number three, do you believe in the under center? The question is, the prompt is, the eagles' longest play from scrimmage in this game comes from under center. Oh, wow, comes there.

It's spicy. The o' longest play from scrimmage comes from under center, as it did last week. I will start the bidding at two. Three. Four. four going once four going twice sold to frant

do you guys like strategically place your bids because I'm like four is good value for that but like I wouldn't go five I think four is the right number so do you like that is the point of the game yeah those no but I mean like to find the right value like do I not go three

if I feel like I would spend four I guess I can't happen you can also jump bid you could you could have just gone to four true all right Now, we didn't talk about this ahead of time. Lindsay, do you have the professor's prompts number four? Okay.

He also was... One of them has, like, rules attached. And he said, make sure to read the whole thing. Because Julia messed up last week, and he was very upset by it. Yes, let's see it. Item number four. During the actual game, a football touches the painted football being held by the Eagle at midfield.

So the football, not the eagle. The ball being spotted there does not count, as does any ball hitting or touching the painted ball during the game, even if the play is dead. All right. Now, I spent too much time focusing on the lyrics that I forgot to send this to you. So I'm going to show it right now.

He has a picture. If you come to my close-up here, Lindsay, I will flip this around. Here is what it looks like. So the ball is pretty small. The ball is pretty small. The ball is pretty small. It's literally it's the 46 to 48 yard line.

It's two yards long and it's one hash mark wide. And it's, yeah, and it's only on one side of the field. So the ball, the ball has to hit the ball. Ball has to hit the ball. Small area.

And the ball being placed there doesn't count? Yeah, why would the ball being spotted there not count? Can you flash up the actual prompt again? I'm sorry. I just like, if it gets placed there, it should count. Oh, it says the ball being spotted. It does count.

Let's see it again. Oh, it does count. Okay. During the actual game, a football touches the painted football being held by the eagle at midfield. The ball being spotted there does count as does any ball hitting or touching the painted ball during the game, even if the play is dead. All right. I misunderstood that. All right.

So it just has to touch it at any point. Hmm. Okay. That's fun. it is fun Eagles so you said it was on the 46 more or less 46 to 48 essentially

it's like it's actually really more like the 45 and a half to the 48 I shouldn't be helping you guys but there were three plays on the Eagles 46 yard line against the Vikings now but they have to be like triangulated yeah two three

just because it'll be fun to root for they are fun to root for four four going once come on Five. You gave yourself so much time. You just sat there and thought.

You didn't count it down. Welcome to the game. Yeah. If you never, I am aware, but it's, it hits different when it, negative affects you.

You can have it for five. Five going once. Yeah, you got it. Five going twice. No. Giving you time. No.

Sold. Four was a good value. Five is too much. I agree. Huh? Ah, good call. Lindsay.

On top of it. Oh, welcome to Bovertime. Lindsay all over it. All over it. And her first show really running the show. Just all over it. And I never miss Bover time. I was too focused on Swipper.

You never miss. You never miss Bovertime? Very rarely, yeah. Name a time. There have been times. There have 100% been times. I remember one time Julia, like, she put it underneath the thing

and then she started putting the exclamation points on it. I remember that and I was ready for it. She jumped a ship. I knew it. I'm always aware of it. This is the first, this is the first time in years that I haven't been ready for. If you're listening, we remember.

How dare you? Given the way that Lindsay's performing today, I don't even know who you're talking about. Oh, no. Don't do this. Don't do this. Don't do this. She's going to come running across the room.

Terrible. Terrible. All right. Item number five over to E.J. Heard of Fran, rather. Oh, I was but to say I was not ready. Yep, I got it. All right.

The Eagles gained 55 yards of off under center play action. Now, why did I say 55 for Brandon Graham? So 55 yards. It's an arbitrary number. However, the winner of this item is prohibited from watching even one second of the Texas versus Mississippi State game. That is so unfair.

That is so unfair. I think it's within all of our, it's, all of us have to pay the same punishment. Can't watch one, can't watch one second of the game on Saturday, which means at 12.1 a.m. On Sunday. Oh, on Saturday. Literally on Saturday. So you can't like, you know, record it and I'll watch it at 7 o'clock. Like, you got to watch it.

What if you, what if you see a highlight? No. Mm-mm. You're not allowed. This is so mean-spirited. It's going to be a good. I'm excited. Mississippi State is a

this is targeted. One. Oh, you have to start the bidding at two. I'm out. I don't know I want to hold on. Is this under center play action

or all play action? Under center play action. Okay. Oh man. Under center play action. I'll say three. Four. What's the honor code on like

so if you win this. It is all about the intellectual if you, but if you win this item and you, are watching a different game and they show and you accidentally see a second of the highlight. Are you going to call it on yourself? Yeah, I will.

I'm going to have to come up. And so the deal is you still win the item, but you are, it is null and void for you. Correct. And you've paid the turkey. Yes. Okay. I mean, I have no interest in watching that game. So I'm free to bid here.

Must be nice. I don't know that I think it's worth five. I think it's a good item. I think that's why he targeted me on it. I didn't target you. I was talking about the group. That's intellectual dishonesty. I can't watch the game either.

I would love to be able to watch Texas. They got a great corner. Malik Mohamed, check him out in the diehard draft guide. Yes. Yeah, someone that could interest the Eagles and the newsletter.

And the newsletter going out tomorrow morning. 9 a. m. do your guys. Is that? You got to be able to do your guys. No question. You can do them the next morning.

Yeah. That's true. Sunday morning. I'm going to have to think of something. Something like parent related. Like, can't spend time with your children. See,

that's hateful. five going once or you have it at four right I think I have a four going once four going twice sold to Fran you even got it for four which is good value keep in mind uh this is not like a definite thing to hit I mean they've done it once they've yeah they had 121 passing last week by far the most under Nixiriani they hit 55 yards twice last year under play action off under center play action zero times did they do it in 2023 twice in 2022 three times in 2021. So it's not a definite this would hit.

All right. What you can do to get back at him is show up at his house unannounced holding... Oh. Holding... Yeah, I could just like in and date you with clips from the game. Yeah.

That's a good idea. I can block you for the... I can block you for Saturday. It's not going to work. All right. My second item. Sequin Barkley finishes the game with more rushing yards than Cam Scatabo.

Scada boo. Scataboo. I apologize. I thought about doing this exact item. Yeah. Now, did you struggle with which one to put as like the, the, I originally had Scadabo, scatibu as the outrisher of Seekwon Barclay, and then I realized it probably would be more fun the way that I did it.

No, I was, it was literally this exact item. So, Sequan's high this year is 88 yards in week two against the Chiefs. Otherwise, he's only surpassed 60 yards once in week one. He's at 58 more recently. Let's see. Scataboo has had, he had 98 yards two weeks ago. Against the Eagles, he had 60 yards last week. What's your bid? I'm going to open the bidding at three.

Five. Seven. Seven going once. Seven going twice. Really? Yeah. It's old. Wow.

That's a steal, I feel. I feel like this is like actually, seven's like a weird number on the abacus, in my opinion. How so? What do you? mean. There's not symmetry so you have to like really make sure you you actually are counting them. How many turkeys you have left? 22. Correct. Over to me. Item number seven, Jalen Hertz has at least three non-scramble first down rushes in this game. Wow. So that could include push. Yeah. Oh, okay. Are we counting touchdowns?

Touchdowns count. Okay. But we also want to know if they're going to bring in the quarterback run game. To be clear, we're not saying runs on first down. We were saying rushes that go for a first down. Just making sure. And I will start the bidding at three. Four. This is, you know, how much, how much push do you believe in?

Because, you know, I don't know if they're going to call it. Yeah, that was like two weeks in a row. They didn't run one. Yeah. I'll go five. Six. Six going once. Six going twice.

sold. Can we get a turkey? EJ's got 16, you've got 10, I've got 9. Got it. Yep. Okay. Lindsay, do you have the next one from the professor? Let's see if there are any... Okay, the Eagles remain 100% on the season

in touchdown rate, in goal-to-go situations. Eagles, every time they've been inside the 10-yard line, they have scored a touchdown this season. Are there any special rules here? Okay. She didn't make the graphics. If it is, we're missing a rule. It's not on Lindsay.

Let the record show. Let the record show. You're going to blame Julia for that one? I'm going to text the professor just to see if he... Okay. Oh, you were in the message. Okay. All right.

Okay. There's been some talk about the Eagles being like a phony team because of their one-scorer game record and also like the Red Zone stuff being noisy. Understandable. There's a couple other stats in there too. Yeah. And on defense.

We might hit on one. Oh, okay. All right. Tyler has to leave soon. So I think we do need to move it along a little bit. I'll start the bidding at three. Four. Oh, okay.

Yes. Important rule amendment. We got it in time. We got it in time. Yeah, we got it in. That's good. I think that's my mic. Oh, Lindsay's voice for the first time.

This is a big moment. It says important. the winner gets to keep and score a point with this item every week as long as it keeps hitting. So until the Eagles fail and a goal-to-go situation. Oh, that does change. If you own this item and it hits, you own it for next week too

and in perpetuity until they no longer do it. All right. So I open it three. Does that mean, so it's a one-time fee? So we're paying for it this week? I believe so. I think it's a one-time fee. Got it.

Okay. Let's making sure. Let's establish that it's a one-time fee. One-time fee. Gentleman's agreement. Yeah. Okay. Five.

Six. Seven. Eight. Ten. I'm out. Ten going out. We're both out. Oh, yeah, I can't bid.

We can't bid. All right. You got it. All right. Brand item nine. Sorry, she's written that down. Okay. Item nine.

This was the stat that we was referring to earlier. The Eagles outgained the Giants in the game. Hasn't happened. season. It has not happened all season. The Eagles have been outgained in all seven games in 2025. They were outgained just six times in all of last season. The first time the Eagles have been out gained in the first seven games since 1999, Andy Reid's first year, they finished 5 and 11. They have a minus 436 yard margin. It's the fifth worst in the NFL. It's the worst margin by a team with a five and two or better record through the first seven games since the

2,000 Lions. And that team finished 9 and 7 and missed the playoffs. So that's one of those other like phony teams. Yep. Mm-hmm. I'm not there with the alarmist fake team thing yet. Okay. They played good teams.

Over to your friend. Yeah. Three. Six. Seven. Take it for eight. Eight going once. Ain't going twice.

Sold. Okay. E.J. All right. My last item. An Eagles defender finishes the game with multiple sacks.

Two or more. None of this one point five. Okay. Nonsense. I like this. I mean, it's not nonsense, but I wanted to draw a hard line. Open, open, open the bidding.

I'll open the bidding at two. I just realized I messed out. Anyway, go on. Fine. I can't bid. Yep. Three. Four.

Five. He can have it for five. It's it for five. Five going once, five going twice. Mine. Sold. Yep. Multiple sack game.

item 11 for me at least two eagles record their first touchdown or sack of the season in this game so jalen carter has no sacks on the season brenn graham doesn't have a sack on the season and coby dean doesn't have a sack on the season

jahad campbell doesn't have a sack in the season grand calcuttaire doesn't have a touchdown johan dotson doesn't have a touchdown now to the half sack half sacks count but it has to come on multi on at least two plays So you need to have one sack.

So if it's a Jalen Carter, Brandon Graham split sack, that doesn't count as both because it's the same play. It has to be at least two plays. But if Jalen Carter gets a half sack on one play, and Brandon Graham gets a half sack on another play, that does count. Got it. Oh, okay. Okay.

It's generous. That's all. Got it. Got it? I'll start to bidding at one. Two. Three. Three going once.

Three going twice. Four. What a... Stop type it. I was just typing into the number. Don't type it in your name underneath your name. Four going once. We're going twice.

Come on. Yeah, I would say. All right. Our last item from the professor. The Eagles win by more points than the lowest bid for this item, but by no more points than double the winning bid. This does have another. Okay, so let's think about this.

There's like more to the... Oh, is it what? There's like, uh, Oh, is he going to hit? Oh, boy. There's something else. They didn't put it in. Okay.

Sealed bid all pay auction. Highest bidder wins. All bidders pay their own bid. If there is a tie, keep bidding up like a normal auction with all pay. All right. So we have to write down a number. We're all going to pay whatever we bid, but, and only the winner gets the item. But the Eagles win by more points than the lowest bid.

And fewer points. then double the winning bid. Does that make sense? More points from the lowest bid. So if... So if one of us bids really low, then we're basically giving you like... The Eagles win the game, essentially, yes.

Okay. But like I got to pay turkeys for it. But you're going to have to pay to win it, and they have to win by fewer than whatever double is. Got it. All right. I'll write down my bid. Lindsay, do you see my Slack message?

This is interesting. Now, I have one turkey. E.J. has two. Frane has five. Obviously, we can borrow from next week. Who wants to go in on this one? Lindsay, do you have EJ's? Got my right.

All right. Read, go ahead and read EJ's. Two for EJ. Interesting. I just didn't want to give me nothing. Zero. Oh, you're welcome. Zero for me.

Oh, I get it. So you get it. You get it. But they have to win by four points or fewer. No, fewer. were then. So they have to win by three points. Right. So it's got to be a three, one or two. I'm actually okay with that. Well, yeah, we only spent two turkeys for it. So it was certainly worth it. Yeah. You guys were both too scared of I was willing to. I was willing to just have like a little

bit of a window here. Let's let's calm down. You've got two turkeys. It's not like you stuck your neck genius. I thought I was going to do the I thought I was going to be like the floor for one of you guys. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Very quickly because we're got to get going. I have only two items. The Eagles. the ball is on the logo. Fun. On the ball. And the Eagles outgain the Giants. Fran has four items. Tight end scores a touchdown. Longest play for the Eagles in this game comes from under center. Under center play action, more than 55 total yards.

And a player has multiple sacks for the Eagles. E.J. Devante Smith has a big day. Sequin Barkley out gains Cam Scataboo. Was that rushing or? Rush. Rushing. Jalen has at least three first down rushes that are not scrambles. The Eagles remain 100.

percent in gold-to-go situations. The Eagles win the game, and two Eagles have their first touchdown or second. Oh, I got to win this week. You better win. Great stuff, everybody. Thank you so much. Thank you, Lindsay.

Thank you, Tyler. Thank you, Ethan, for E.J. And Fran, I'm Bo. We will talk to you tomorrow. The professor is in studio. Thank you, VG, for the great jingle. And, of course, thank you to Ace Freely and the Backstreet Boys for the musical inspiration.

That'll do it. For this episode, we will talk to tomorrow. And as always, we love. love you.