PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - Jalen Hurts’ MVP Push? Our second-half predictions for the Eagles

Episode Date: November 5, 2025

Will Jalen Hurts be in the MVP mix? Will Saquon Barkley reach 1,000 yards rushing? What about the outlook for DeVonta Smith, A.J. Brown, Jalen Carter, Nick Sirianni and the like? EJ Smith and Bo Wulf go through their second-half expectations before Brandon Graham joins the show to talk Jaelan Phillips and Halloween candy. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome to the BHLY Eagles podcast on a wacky Wednesday live from the Xfinity Studio and presented by Bet365 and Ashley Bowulf, E.J. Smith and E.J. We're going to hear from Brandon Graham in a little bit, but we start with over unders. I'll be the over guy. You are everybody's favorite power under. No, no, no, no, no. We already made the joke. I know you made the joke.

But they didn't get to hear it. They don't know that you made the joke, but I know that you made it. And as I said before, we're going to leave the bad. You're a week under. Fine. I am, I mean, there's nothing I can say here. You just,

you learn new things every day. That's all I'm going to say. A competent under. I like to consider myself competent in most things. So, sure. All right. Let's,

let's talk Philadelphia Eagles. We are coming off the by week. Return to practice. They practice yesterday. They're going to practice tomorrow. but I think all of the major discussion has been about the defense because that's where the additions have come. Let's think about the offense heading into the second half of the season. You have pulled some nice over-under nuggets.

Let's get to them. I have. I've got a few things that we did are before the season, but I wanted to start with really probably one of the more interesting things to follow for me in the second half of the season, which will be Jalen Hertz's potential MVP candidacy. you know, and the numbers that will be required to reach that. So we're going to go through a couple of the over-unders that I have here that I think will kind of define whether or not he ends up being in that conversation. We're going to start with over under nine air yards per attempt in the second half of the season.

He is at 8.8 so far this season, which ranks third in the NFL, which surprised me. He ranked 20th last season with 7.8 yards, air yards per attempt. Julie, I believe we have a graphic that shows something that I thought was interesting to see from Jalen Hertz this year and where he ranks in terms of being aggressive, pushing the ball down field while also avoiding turnovers. You know, and I think because when you think about like what an MVP case usually revolves around, it's usually like some type of gaudy number, right? It's usually something that it's like, you know, either touchdowns or passing yards. For Jalen, maybe it is.

Or it's just wins. Well, wins put you in the conversation. I agree. But I think that they're usually, no, not that one, Julia, sorry. It's the chart with the faces. Yeah. A circle. Yeah.

But to me, like, you get in the conversation with wins, but you need, like, that one signature stat. For Jaylin, it could be like the touchdown to interception ratio. That's a good one, yeah. Based off of the first 27 to two. Nick Foles. Exactly. You know, that is, so this chart shows you basically, on the left side, we've got air yards

per target shows how much, how far down the field quarterbacks are pushing the ball, and then interception rate on the bottom there. So you can see that Jalen ranks toward the top of the league in this, in these, like, you know, in this graph with Matthew Stafford and Baker Mayfield. I don't know if we can see those guys. Being able to balance being aggressive. Yeah. And also safe with the ball.

It's difficult to do. He's one of three guys who are really succeeding at that. And it's like we talk a lot about the middle of the field targets that we don't see from Jalen Hertz. and that is kind of like the pro of him not throwing in that area of the field is that a lot of his like downfield shots are along the sidelines where turnover variance is probably a little bit lower. So again, I think that like when you start to look at some of these numbers, I do think if that continues, he could kind of get into that conversation and be, you know, a candidate because of

something like that. So if you had to guess, nine yard, nine air yards per attempt, you've taken the over? I'm for the under sticking with the under I think I'm going to move it up moving up moving up there we go I think I'm going to take the over here

I think that there is a path for Jalen Hertz to continue to be like the layups and threes quarterback in the second half of the season with the you think about the other set of he's already towards the top of the league you think he's going to go even deeper I think they could lean even deeper I think they could lean even further

into this play action shots offense so I think there's a chance And the thing that it is like I think the thing that would drive him down is if it's like a high volume passing offense all of a sudden I don't think that that's where they're at right now I think all of the things you have said are cogent and correct. I just 8.8. It's going to be more than that. I think I think it's more likely that it stays a little bit low. Okay. Now we're going to go through some MVP benchmark stats and that is another MVP stat graphic we have here Julia. So I'm going to just we'll go rapid fire through them because again if you want to

to look at some of the historic MVP stat seasons, whether it's Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson, you do kind of see like that it's hard to get into that conversation without reaching a certain threshold for some of these numbers. So let's start with 3,100 passing yards. I can, yeah, so this is a, we've got a graphic here that shows what Jalen Hurts is on pace for. I know pay stats aren't always the best, but it does kind of again show you like where he would be if he, maintains the level of play that he's at and where that ranks among past MVP's. So again, if you look at some of the passing yard metrics here,

it's hard to get in that conversation if you're not at least above that 3,100 threshold. That's Lamar Jackson was around that 3,100 yard threshold, while also having a lot of rushing yards, which is something we haven't really seen from Jalen Hertz in the first half of the season. So like when you start to think about the formula, I think that the yardage is going to be tough.

I think that the touchdowns could be like the other gaudy stat that really works in his favor. Like I mentioned, like the touchdown to turnover ratio. And obviously we're dealing with total touchdowns here because of the rushing touchdowns that Jalen has. But he's, I mean, he's doing well in passing touchdowns as well. So far this season. So again, let's go through some of these touchdown or some of these like benchmarks. And let's see what you think about. So 3,100 yards, passing yards.

Over. So basically that's just. is he going to not get injured? Yeah, it's really a matter of how many games he plays because he's on pace to do it, so I think that's fair. I'm going to give it to him. I take the over on that one too. 43 total touchdowns.

Under. Yeah, it's hard to imagine them saying this consistent in the red zone. So I think I'm probably taking the under. I also think that one is so tight where if he misses a game or two, he's probably not going to get it, but he could still get the passing yards with mid-time. Now, this is the toughest one, in my opinion.

Rushing yards over under 550. And what's he on pace for right now? It's a good question. He is at, hold on. 400 and... Oh, no, it's way less than that. Oh, it's way less than that. He is at 207 rushing yards this season.

Right, but he's on pace for 40s. Oh, sorry, on pace, yeah. Sorry, yeah, correct. So, I don't know. I think I might take the under on his rushing yards. I think I would have to take the under. It only takes one really big game to change that, but he just hasn't run very much.

I do think this is, I mean, we have talked about this is something that must be intentional to some degree, whether that's from Petulah or Siriani or Jeffrey Lurie or Jalen Hurts himself. But I do think that in the second half of the season, we will see them opening up a little bit, but I would still take the under just that it's not going to be quite that much. Yeah, this is like an ask. You're just going to do it a couple times,

let, you know, make them respect it. Yeah. This is like, um, like an ask me in two weeks because like these next two games, actually there is some urgency. There is some, that's true.

Some stakes where maybe this is the week where, you know, maybe the Packers game is the week where it's like, okay, this part of the play sheet, it's open this week. Like we will use Jalen, you know,

in a quarterback inclusive run game to open things up. Because yeah, if he has one big game, it does become more feasible. The, the number is important to me because like, Jalen's not going to have like a four or five thousand passing yard season.

I think the rushing yards become important when you look at like the cases that Lamar Jackson had for MVP but also Josh Allen even. Like he had over 500 rushing yards last season that kind of helped his case. So I'm not saying that like I think he's an MVP frontrunner or anything like that but I do think some of these are more realistic and if he does reach them, I don't know.

I just think like with the way that the conference is shaping up I think he is going to end up in that conversation. It's just going to be a matter of if he has like those two or three numbers that really push him over the edge. Or two or three prime time impressive performances for people to remember. Right. And he's got a Monday nighter against the Packers. Then he's got a Sunday nighter against the Lions. There's week 17 against the bills.

I was just about to say that Bill's game. Like that could be like an MVP versus MVP type. Yeah, that week seven. That's a good call by you. And the truth is I do think that it's going to just kind of come down to like, do they win the conference by two games or three games? and then you can make a good case for him. I kind of feel like, looping into a conversation we sort of had with Anthony this morning,

with Brandon Graham, I think I can make the case that next week's game against the Lions is the most important game of the season. Because it will tell you the most about pressure testing you for the playoffs. Like, where are you really weak? This first game, they're still implementing, you know, these new pieces. They're not fully formalized yet. later in the season, like, you know, even week 17 against the bills, there's a chance that that

game doesn't matter for one of the two teams, right? So like getting this team healthy as it is, most of the players there, playing the Lions, it's like, okay, this is a game. We know the Lions are motivated for. They didn't get the matchup they wanted last year. Both of these teams are going to be, this is going to be like a slug fest. Let's see, not only do we win or lose, but if we lose, where are the weaknesses? What do we need to do to improve in the playoffs? I agree with you, but I also think that there's a chance that game kind of looks like that joint practice against the Browns

where it's clear that one team really cares about how it looks and the other team doesn't. But I think the other element to this that we talked about yesterday and maybe, I mean, no, I don't, I don't think I'm overstating it actually. Like, the tiebreaker against the Lions

could turn out to be a really big deal. Absolutely. If they end up having to go to Detroit and like you get the Jared Gough in the Dome experience, I think that that is a, I'm disappointed that you didn't flag that comment. you're slacking a little bit

I just had to pause myself there but yeah if you get the dome experience from the Lions I don't know how much better that is it's not better especially indoor versus outdoors knowing

how active Dan Campbell's teeth are indoor versus outdoor could be dangerous Indoor versus outdoor against the Lions is a lot different And I do I think that the tiebreaker against them Especially the Eagles already have the record advantage going into the game Well presumably at least going into this week They have the record advantage

I do think that that's going to be an important game But I do think that it's a little bit like it could be the Lions Super Bowl Compared to where the Eagles are just it's kind of like an important game But maybe not the biggest game But I don't know it does lean into like The conversation we had earlier this season about like like are the Eagles this season kind of like an NBA team where it's like get through the regular season get to the postseason like this kind of reminds me of like when you have that type of team like the

Sixers used to be that kind of team like when they play the Celtics on Christmas Day that's like this is how this is how this is how this team looks on the playoffs you you do want to kind of use those those high stakes games as like instructive moments in the season uh cousin grace is in the chat wondering if she's she not not to jinx the Eagles but she thinks the lions are fake and to We're talking about Detroit being fake. We don't call them fake. We call them halfway crooks. Oh.

It's a great song, too. Just a great song. Shook ones. Yeah. Anything else from Jalen Hertz? No, those are my Jalen Hertz ones. So it sounds like you're less bullish on the MVP case than me. I'll be honest.

I don't know about that. I just, I think it's not super insightful of me to just say I think it's going to come down to wins, but that's kind of what I think it's going to come down to. I disagree a little bit. I think you always need, like, I think that. That signature stat thing is important.

Like Lamar, the year that he threw for 3,000 and ran for a thousand. Like, those things do matter once you're in that conversation. I'm, like, so I listened back to our over-unders from before the season this morning. And, like, I am planning in, like, a couple months to have this segment, like, to show everyone. I got out in front of the Jalen Hertz MVP dialogue. I want to make sure that I get this. That's my bold prediction. I don't think I'm first.

I'm not saying I coined it. but I am saying that like, I'm hoping that I can pull some of these clips and, you know, and recirculate them to make myself look smart. All right. Planting my flag here. Buying the stock. All right.

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Well, you tell me, I set the over-under for Sequin Barclays rushing yards at 1,300 yards. And what's he at right now? He is at, hold on, I should have this. I believe what you? I think the guy does his home. Well, I had A.J. Brown next on my rundown, so I didn't. 519. 519.

Thank you, Julia. O.J. Who I never disparage for the record. That really felt weird. I didn't like that. Well, you had a little something in his ear. Sequin's probably at home watching. You want to know.

What you think about is his prospects of rushing for over 1,300 yards. 1,300 yards. You know what's sad is I did have it right here. I'm going under. I just, I think he will have some big games. Yeah. I don't think it will be sustained excellence or production-wise like it was last year. I think they're going to be games where they are not able to have those big runs.

I tend to agree with you. I think I'm going to take the under here. Bet three's our friends at Bet365 had a Him at plus 100 to surpass 1,250 and plus 350 to still get more than 1,500 yards So it seems like there are at least there's a least They're holding a place for it They're making space but say they're making it's my favorite thing right I think I put that in the cool down chamber making space but yeah I think that there is still a real

A real group of people who believe that he could still get there I mean I believe when I fall in love with you it will be Forever. That was my only Seiquan over under. I didn't really... I believe when I fall in love this time, it will be forever. You have the second best singing voice in the office, right? Or in the studio right now.

I mean, I'm certainly not first. Julius looking me like... You think I'm ahead of you? Yeah, I can't sing. You think I can? I mean, you... do sing. Well,

certainly the most prolific. Prolific in volume. Yeah. Yeah. I think I pulled it out on BG today, actually. How did BG respond to that? I guess we're going to find out later. I think that was in this segment.

Oh, when you're, you got the, oh, yeah. You want to, listen, the video, visual listeners, you got to stay tuned for the Brandon Graham interview because boy, am I given a deep V? They couldn't see, like, they couldn't see, or they couldn't hear your you're a cold open, but they could see your little shirt situation.

And yeah, that might come up later in the show. Okay. I mean, just generally speaking, do you think the Eagles are going to be more going to try to be as run heavy as they were in the first quarter of the season? Or do you think we're going to see a little bit more of this mix and match based on game plan?

I think that this under center shift, I think it is here to stay. And I think that it probably will lead to more, a more varied run game, but yeah, I think that they're still going to be a high frequency. I think that's who they are

at this point. I think it's who Nick Siriani wants to be. I think it's probably who Kevin Petula wants to be. And I think Jalen Hertz is fine with it. So I don't really know. I mean, AJ Brown's probably not thrilled about it, but I think that this is who the offense wants to be. I think it's the best version we've seen of the offense.

So, yeah, I think that it is here to stay. Now, let's get to AJ Brown. and before we talk about your own runners, what did you make of what Howie Roseman said about him yesterday when asked about whether the team considered trading AJ Brown at the deadline? I thought it was a good answer. He said, I can pull it up here. He said, here, I got it right here.

He said, Do you want to be a good, oh, go ahead. Yeah, I think when you're trying to be a great team, it's hard to trade great, it's hard to trade great players, and AJ Brown's a great player. I think that that sums it up. I think that that is like, when we talked about it for weeks, we constantly said, we think it's unlikely because it is

difficult to move a player that good and not affect your Super Bowl chance. I think Howie Roseman does not make a habit of focusing on being honest in these press conferences. I thought that was very honest. Yeah, especially because it wasn't dismissive. Exactly. Yeah. That is the truth is that if you want, this is a team with Super Bowl aspirations.

If you are a team with Super Bowl aspirations, you should not be trading one of the best players in football. However, it's possible. Yeah, it wasn't no. He didn't say absolutely not. Why would we consider that he's a great player? Yeah, now, and I think like it's not surprising how this played out. But I also think it is like, it is the one thing I'll say is like the answer that he gave.

So I saw some people running with and being like, see this to a little of immediately. What are they talking about? There's a non-issue. That's just not. Yeah. Yeah. That just was not my read on the answer. It wasn't my read.

Like, and again, like, we spent all this time talking about how it was unlikely. So, and we talked about like, you can put your head in the sand and say that it was never going to happen. And that's fine. Yeah. And now we'll talk about it in the offseason. And the thing I think that's important to note there, a lot can change between now and the off season. Absolutely. And this is a moment in time.

Yeah. Relationships are allowed to change. Yeah. Absolutely. I will be interested to see how the AJ thing unfolds the next couple weeks, though. me too now that like the now that the trade speculations he also hasn't spoken in a while yes exactly and you know he wasn't healthy last week yes or two weeks ago so what else was interesting to you from mr roseman um i i i want to know what you thought of the cohabitation matrix

mentioned i mean it is like obvious that this is a thing but i thought it was interesting that he mentioned it in the context of like knowing how these players will integrate midseason you know and because that is something that It's a human thing, like players struggle. Like, Jacorian Bennett has been open about the fact that this has been a very challenging year for him. And I think, like, the fact that, like, there are some connections to these players that they could do their homework on them. I didn't, I don't want to overstate it because, listen, like, these guys could still struggle integrating into the team. But I did find it interesting that that was something he mentioned when discussing, like, that potential struggle.

I think that the cohabitation matrix stuff is interesting. it's also like on a few levels, listen, the Eagles have a lot of people in the building who have been other places. Chances are there's going to be somebody who knows somebody you're interested in training for. Now, these ones are a little bit different.

Vic Fangio having coached Jalen Phillips is significant. Christian Parker having coached Jaya Alexander is significant. I think the Joe Douglas one is a little bit less so because you're not talking about like hands on how this guy's going to be used, but it speaks to the guy's character. And it is absolutely true.

that there is a lot of guesswork about how it is difficult to implement a guy midstream and you need to know what kind of worker they're going to be like in those situations. You can understand why you would want to eliminate some of the guesswork there. I also think there's a chance that, you know, maybe if you are too focused on that and you are you are too hesitant of bringing in a better player because you don't know him, you could be missing out. I totally understand that. And I think in this case, it is more about Jalen Phillips is a really good player for what we need.

Exactly. You know, Vic Fanjo knows him. Especially, like, with, like, Joe Casper. Like, he coached Michael Carter at Duke. Like, Michael Carter is probably one of the best players on the team. It's like, that guy's great. Yeah. So I do think you can overstate it, but I did find it interesting.

I also think that, like, because we're seeing, like, an uptick in trades, especially it seems like blockbuster trades at the deadline. I think that it's been interesting to see, you know, our friend, Zach Berman, who had that great interview, the guy who had the interview with David Baker. Oh, the author guy? Yeah. Yeah, you know who that is.

Yeah, he was fun. That was a good episode. He asked a good question about the fact that the Eagles have made nine trains. He covers the Eagles? He does. Yeah. I thought he just wrote. He does a great job covering the Eagles.

Let's look into that. You should. You'd find some stuff you'll enjoy. That's debatable. I'll be the judge of that. He did a good job framing, like, the Eagles have made nine traits since the start of training camp. And I think,

that as like the league becomes more open to in-season trades, the Eagles have still stayed ahead of the curve. Really, Howie Roseman has stayed ahead of the curve, mostly by like being willing to do the legwork and do the like the moves around the margins of their roster. You know, and not, like it might seem like maybe trivial that like they're going to trade like a six round pick for a seventh and a player that they think could help the team.

But I do. I think that those things can add up, you know, not to make a weird, not to make this an analogy for the process with Sam Hinky, but there is an element to that where it's like constantly turning over the edges of the roster, the margins of the roster to try and find value where other teams probably, I don't know, I think that like each trade inherently invites some risk, right? And I think there are a lot of GMs that are probably risk averse in that way. It's like I don't want to give up a six for a, you know, a corner that may or may not help us.

I think that how he's willingness to take on that risk. I think that is how the Eagles are staying ahead of the curve. as teams are starting to become more and more willing to trade. Because like 10 years ago, it's like, you know, maybe like the Eagles would have been on like the Quinn and Williams deal or something like that. Because it's like there weren't teams that knew that he was available. You know, that was like the thing you heard. Now it feels like that shifted more toward the depth on the roster,

trying to build the bottom of the roster up, which is important with how top heavy their roster has become. Yeah, I think that's fair. My other takeaway from the press conference is you just think about the great, will they, won't they, romantic entanglements of like pop culture history like you know Ross and Rachel or whatever it is like these like when's it's going to happen I do feel like the the Howie Roseman Jeff McLean thing I mean this is one this is one to follow they have an interesting relationship I mean listen

Jeff is a great reporter I should say you know a former colleague of mine um and I feel like I had a like I mean I wouldn't say a front row seat but I've seen that relationship evolve and now yeah howie's like looking for him on the screen. I mean, heavy flirting. Yeah, so respect to Jeff. Yeah, whatever it takes to get the job done. Getting it done in the out of the studio.

All right, so what do you have for AJ Brown? Okay, AJ Brown, over under 40 catches for the season. He's at 29 this year. He had 39 catches after eight games played last season. Again, he missed some time early in the year, so this is not the first eight weeks. But I was saying over the course of the next nine games. Yeah, over under 40 catches in the second half of the scene. Got it.

Over. Over. I'm taking the over. I don't feel great about it. I mean, he could still miss some time here. You could certainly miss time. But I think, I think if he plays, he's going to get over. I'm taking, like, a tepid.

Taking his head off? No, I'm like, I'm like here. Just like a tepid over. I'm kind of like here. Okay. The other one I have that is probably more instructive is, his yards per route run. So he was at one point,

he is at 1.7 so far this season, which ranks 38th in the NFL. Last season, he finished the year at 2.61, which ranked third. I set the over under at 2.25 for this year. When was he at right now? He's at 1.7. So I'm sorry, we're going second half of the season.

Second half only. Second half only. I'll take the over. I'm taking the under on that one. Okay. I don't feel, I feel like, I feel like the thing we've, seen from AJ this year, and that's why I didn't feel great about the over, I think he might not

be the volume receiver. I think that might be Devante this year. I think that would be interesting. I think that AJ might be the splashy receiver, you know, and especially- I think there's a case to be made that that's their best version. It's their best version if AJ Brown is on board with it. Right, exactly. Yeah, I mean, it looks different, but I do think, and Devante is the next one we'll do here, I do think that like having Devante is your volume guy, having Devante is the guy who leads the team. targets most weeks makes a lot of sense because he is that type of receiver. You know, I, I know one of my like first podcast here, like I was talking about Justin Jefferson and I called him like a

possession receiver and I don't mean that disparagingly. I mean that as like that is the guy who gets a heavy amount of targets because he's open so much and he is like more, I think Devante is more of that type of receiver than AJ is. AJ is like a dominant physical receiver. He is somebody who can, you know, make a play out of anything and like pretty much anything. Um, I, I think Devante is more of like a, you can scheme them open, you can have a more varied route tree. And really, I think you can show your creativity as like an offensive staff through a player like Devante.

So I do. I think that he might be the volume guy. So I actually am going to take the under on the A.J. Brown. Wow. The A.J. Brown yards per route run. I think he might be more middle of the road than he was last year. You give a lot of risk there. I didn't want to keep doing the fingers.

I felt like I needed to mix it up. I needed to vary. I need to show my creativity. That's true. You gotta show your flexibility. All right. Let's do Devante and then we'll go to break. Okay.

Devante over under 1,200 receiving yards. I can tell you what he's at right now. I know he's on pace for more than that. He is at 588 receiving yards. I think the smart money would be under here just because it's going to require him playing every game for the most part. And there's a good chance the Eagles are not even playing for anything the last couple weeks of the season.

but I'm still going over I'm going to believe in Devante oh see I'm getting better at this because I watched again I watched some some really bad headpats when I went back and

reviewed the tape from our first over-unders because like I'm bouncing the ball on the top of his head see this is this is like a great illustration of growth as a podcast co-host I don't know amen just did that was strange

what did you just do with your pen I don't know We're just going to move on. I don't know what we're doing today. All right, let's take a quick break, hear from some sponsors, and then on the other side, a young man named Brandon Graham

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with the Eagles run defense over the first half of the season. We are going to put up that conversation with the grabby grabs as a Vod on the P.H.O.I. Eagles channel. So you can check that out. A little education for you about the Eagles defense and maybe why the second half could be better than the first half. I'm laughing at Jay's comment now.

E.J. was the fish neighbor. Baker went. Couple super jats to tell you about Kyle Vidu Kaitis Kyle Vidalekitis says EJ. What can Aston Villa do to power themselves from the bottom of the table to the top? I think the most, oh, I just realize that this isn't actually a question about Ascent. I'm going to use it as an opportunity

to talk about Aston Villa. Or like Aston Villa, if you know what I mean? Yeah, it has been a shaky start to the season. They need to create more chances. They need to I mean honestly They probably need to drop Olly Watkins And they need to focus on

Putting like putting players in positions To beat people off of the dribble They're not creating enough off of the dribble They're not creating enough chances That's really the biggest problem I think defensively Defensively they've been okay They have a lot of possession

They just don't really like challenge teams So it's not great It's not my favorite Asson Villa season that I followed But I think it's gonna be okay I trust in Unaimri Is old man Danny Wellbeck going to get a call up with England? I don't think so.

That's your boy, isn't it? Love Danny Welbeck. I think we need to see more. A1 from day one. It's like sad that with Assonville, I think we need to see more of Jaden Sancho. Not a great place to be in as a team. Polar Jam with the Super Chan says, does a Gough dome experience qualify for the cohabitation Matrix? I don't think so.

Who has some experience with Jared Gough and the dome? The Eagles have any? I mean, Paiote Awashika is over there, but I don't know if the Eagles have anybody from... I don't think there's any Detroit synergy. You don't think so either. Yeah. It's disappointing.

Alex Medina, it baffles me that Jalen Hertz isn't first in the MVP conversation. We are at mid-season, and he has two turnovers, and the Eagles are number one in the NFC. The turnover thing is real, I think. I think that if it continues that way, if his numbers are good enough with his turnover staying low, I think that there is like a, especially you could just hear Nick Siriani talking about like

the way he affects winning and all he does is win. So I think that that conversation, again, I'm investing. It does. I mean, it does truly baffle me that he is not higher up than he seems to be in the betting odds. Yeah. I mean, ninth right now. I don't usually put much stock into like the no one likes us like Philadelphia narrative.

I mean, I'm not saying it's not true, but I think it can be overstated. But this is one where it's like, it just kind of feels like people. Like, we talked about it with the processing stuff. I feel like Jalen just doesn't always get the recognition for some of those things. And, like, some of it's fair. You know, like, I think we've talked about Fran, about the nuanced nature of, like, Jalen Hertz as a processor. But I think as a quarterback, I do think he is sometimes, like, judged by a weird lens.

So. Finally, Fresh Prince says, Bo saying he pulled it out on BG. Regarding his singing needs to be addressed further. Ha ha. Well, I believe we're going to give you a chance to witness me pulling it out here. As Brandon Graham joins the show on the site, a set of the Unblocked podcast. And boy, when I saw this shot, I could not. I mean, the deep V, you want to see a little chest.

This is the segment for you. Back on the P.H.O.Y. Eagles podcast from the set of Unblocked with Brandon Graham. It's Brandon Graham. Let's see if we can make it through like five minutes, no yons this week. Oh, yeah, right. That's a good one. Let's see if we can do it. Now I'm thinking about it.

How was Halloween with the kids? Halloween was fun. Halloween was, man, it was cool night. My guy, mom came into town. She'd been doing it for a year. I mean, for some years now, it's like a tradition. So she flew right in, flew right out. Okay.

Just for the, just for it. And so we all went out behind the house, a bunch of kids, was out for probably like two hours. and man, got a bunch of candy. What were the kids dressed as? They was dressed Jalen Hertz, and then Baby Girl was the Eagles cheerleader. Nice.

Yeah, they went Eagles this year. This is the first time, because they normally do, like, they shows that they watch the, no, not Paul Patrol, but what we do, they do last year. I forgot, but it's always been like a show that they watched.

This is the first year they went Eagles? Yeah. How do you feel like, what's your Halloween candy? Jack Rank. Well, what do you like? I like Tissy Rose. We got a bunch of them. Yeah, that was cool.

Tissy Rose. Got candy, sweet and loo. Let me see that Tissy Road. Yep, you got, who else? Who else? You got, I got Ries. I got, we got some big packs in there, too. Oh.

Yeah, the places we be going sometimes, they go out to the foo bars. Yeah, listen, it's a fancy neighborhood you're living in. I know, it is a little fancy. They got, like this one dude got a menu. of like you can just point to whatever one you know yeah of like oh you want the big rieces there go oh you want uh twizzers there it is but once he's out he'd take it down like take it down but he got a bunch of stuff it's like a machine well no it's not a machine it's just he just got he made this poster board okay and then he got the candy stuck on there from

tape and um and it's like you got you got a re you got a whole thing and stuff and then as they as he run out he just take them off and then get person the last one get him last one and then people just pick on whatever he got left okay yeah so that's pretty cool yeah i like uh they do it they do it up over where we where we that sounds like it's been cool how do you feel about like a like a kid cat kid cat is good too i had an eight about two of them already two packs you put him in the freezer that's the move i need to start doing that i haven't done that that's the move that's what i used to do it with snickers that's good yep snickers we got that too but we got all the little the little minnie ones a bunch of minis yeah yeah yeah

Yeah, I mean, it's cool, too. Those, those better. To me, like, what I like, I've said this before, I said on the show yesterday, but what I like about Halloween is give me the one that I'm not going to have otherwise. Yeah. You know, because I'll probably have a Snickers over the course of the rest of the year, but I'm not going to have, like, baby Ruth. You're right.

You know? Yeah, you're right. All those, too. So, yeah, I try to, I try to switch it up. Sometimes when you just hunger, you just want to go grab something out of there. It's so easy. Did you have a favorite Halloween costume as a kid? nah nothing that i can think of that's our memory right there can't even can't even think of it

pillsbury doughboy for me pillsbury doughboy okay you know what i was the king i was the king from burger king in college that was my i got a lot of compliments on that that time because i just had the mask though it's not like i had like no makeup or none right yeah but i just had the mask on had the whole suit i probably had to send it to you i think i still got it on facebook okay Let's get to take a look at that for the show. Yeah, yeah. All right, let's talk a little bit of football. Just a little bit of football.

You guys have practiced already. So you've seen this new group together. What do you make of how it all is shaking out, especially in that edge room? It's going good, man. I really feel like it's going really good right now, just making sure that we all welcoming each other and just, we competing.

We competing out there to go out there and make plays together. And so that's how I look at it. It's not like I'm competing against nobody but myself out there. And we all out there trying to be, trying to be the best version of ourselves so that we can go help each other in those moments when we need to play.

We show up together. We have a nice long discussion about Jalen Phillips on this week's episode of Unblocked, which you can watch tomorrow at 8 o'clock. But is there a player you've played with in the past who he reminds you of it all? No. Not that I can think of right now.

I mean, 6'6. Yeah. Athletic, fast. I mean, I mean, only person is tall like that. Sweety a little bit, but he's much bigger. Yeah, yeah. Sweaty quick, too.

Yeah, I like, I like that. I like that comparison. You're right, because they both long, you're right. I would say sweaty, sweaty. They both kind of, like, sweaty used to have an inside move that was nice too. Yeah, so, yeah, I say sweaty. That's a good one. What do you feel like is, is there a specific kind of pass rush move that you feel like,

I wish I had that in my bag? Yeah. Like if you could steal somebody's move, what would it be? It'd be a long arm. Okay. You know, I could do it, but my arm's not as long, but you still do it. Still knock people back. But I think some guys just look sweet, like sweating them, they long.

So they keep that extension, they keep people off of them. And so if I had the length in my arms, that'd be a good one. That'd be a good one. Who is, when you think of the long arm move, is it sweaty? Yeah, that's some of sweaty. Okay. We call it pressing the button. You're hitting them in that spot.

And boy, you're getting them to go backwards. Okay. How about who had the best, like, spin move? If I had to say, but I never played with him was Frini. Freeney, for sure. We watched him a lot. Yes. He was just catching him at the right time.

And T. Cole had the same, like, jab, outside swipe. He used to jab outside swipe. You know, it was, and you get them to stop. their feet and man, Trent Cole, if you watch his film, he got the same move, but he was just lethal with it and he was a technician. I got much respect for that because people used to always be like, T. Cole, switch it up, do this. And it's like, man, tell him to stop it first. Yeah. You know, it's like, hey, that's one person that I know going to do it in that moment. He did it every time. How about just speed around the edge? Speed around the edge. Von Miller.

Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, Von Miller. You said it off the ball and I mean, he beat people sometimes where they didn't even touch him. And then how about you excluded best just like Bull Rush? Bull Rush. Miles. I mean, that's... Miles of Monster out there. Five sacks, you don't get them by accident.

You get them by bullying the quarterback, getting to the ball. All right. Well, that's good stuff. We know yawns. No. No yons. We made it through. So we'll be back with more on the PHAY Eagles podcast.

Thank you to Brandon Graham. Check out this week's episode of Unblocked on Thursday at 8 o'clock. That's right. A new time for Unblocked this week with the Monday night game tomorrow morning 8 o'clock. You get BG unblocked. We're going to stick with that moving forward Thursdays at 8 o'clock. A little extra time for Julia. A little extra time to cut up some nice clips for social. I like a Thursday morning pod. Yeah. Why not? It's a good time of the week for me. Did you do it just for me?

I mean, just with the Eagle schedule. Thursday morning. It's usually a good time to clear it out. Walk the dogs, listen to the pod. I like it. Or watch it on YouTube. Check out that deep V. Well, I'm a YouTube boy, so I've got the YouTube premium.

I will have it on YouTube. Beautiful. But I will miss the deep V if I'm walking the dogs. Maybe I'll watch it and walk. Maybe I'll try that. Just stay safe out there. Can't miss. The deep V, you're right.

The deep V, I might be walking into traffic looking at that. thing. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll do our defensive overunders and probably some other nonsense. If you are looking for the dealership with the most inventory and super low lease payments in the Philadelphia area, Ki of Cherry Hill.com is the place to go.

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And boy, her arm's going to be tired. That is such a bad joke to make like a joke that you do that often. Like I love... Don't you understand? That's what makes it good. I love your commitment to most bits. I stand by your side as your workwife here. This one I'd be like...

Stand by. You're going to whip it out again. CDP. in the chat with a super chance says, E.J., thanks for the book wreck with recursion. Ooh, I appreciate that. I don't even remember when I said that, but recursion's a good book. I moved on to Dune. I got it in London. Yeah? Yeah. I mean, that's all I have to say about it so far. Dune it and doing it and doing it. Well, this has actually been a fun show. I'm not going to lie.

Oh, actually? Well, usually the loopy Tuesday or the wacky Wednesday we have today, like there's at least one point where, it's like totally off the reins. I feel like we struck a balance today. Oh, yeah. I guess I spoke too soon. Knock on wood. Alexio says, sounds like it really was a bye week.

That's pretty good. It's pretty good. I appreciate that joke. All right. What do you got for the defense? Or is there anything else? There's one more offense one. Don't even, don't even try with the graphics on this one.

We would have needed to coordinate this. Eagles offensive lineman making the Pro Bowl Over under 2.5 Under So you're just going Lane and then do you think Myelada makes it? I don't think that he and Dickerson make it

Yeah Yeah I mean I Sorry I should have told you that these were From the preseason Yeah that was a preseason one But I still thought it was interesting to revisit We have another preseason one That we need to revisit

But first What is this nonsense? I would like to run the clip from the summer pre-season clip yeah just I think it's interesting this better not back what I think it is oh it's probably what you think it is so I just saying if you're telling them that six and a half sacks for more Mojoimo I think it's in play Milton Williams most sacks in a season zone is five so you're saying Morrow is gonna be gonna be better in his first year than Milton ever was I slow

played this a couple of weeks ago I said like Milton Williams had five sacks last year and I think that is the floor for Morrow Ojo. The floor? I think he could be, I mean, he was better than him at the end of last season and he's only in the Super Bowl. But you know what I mean? He was taking his snaps by the end of the last year. He was taking his snaps in the beginning of the season.

No, in the post season. Milton was, Milton was awesome in the playoffs. Yeah, he was better in the playoffs. Yeah, he was better in the playoffs, but you know what I mean? Like, Morrow was coming for this job even last year. Morrow's a very good player. And he looks even better coming into this season. I agree.

The training camp he had. I am six and a half sacks. Listen, I'll take your more of a Jomo stock all day. I love the guy. He's going to have the opportunities early in the season. And then I think that there's going to have to be a course correction. You're going. Cut it, Julia.

Cut it. That's all we need. We don't need anything else. I would just, listen, that guy made some good points. Pretty impressive. The way that you were like looking over at me in the middle of the clip to make sure that I was listening. I said he's going to get the opportunities early. He's at force X.

Okay. A five, five, seven. Well, he sells at the floor. He could die tomorrow. That's your new defense. Just saying, your outrage, you were so beside yourself. Well, it was a bad line because you could have got more juice the other way.

I said, I bought the stock early. Feeling great about it now. So now let's get there. Let's revisit. You taking the over or the under on Morrow Adjomo, 6.5 sacks. I mean. obviously for the bit I have to stay under. Oh, yeah.

See, I'm obviously, at this point you would take the... Not to just continuously talk about my own growth as a podcast co-host, but I do kind of feel like I out Bo Wolf to you on this one. Like I took the, I like went hard on this take. Like I went further than anybody else would go so that I could take credit for the guy that you wrote about during training camp as the guy who was poised to have a breakout season. I feel good about it. I mean, what do you want? Nothing. Just wanted to point it out.

I'm like, this is like the equivalent, like, you know, I walk into your house. There you go into the refrigerator, make myself a plate, put my feet up on the coffee table. All right. So another sack total here, Jalen Phillips, over under 3.5 sacks between now and February. Jailen Phillips. Which would tie his second high. sack total of his career? I'm going over.

Really? So you think he's going to be an impact player? I think four sacks over the second half of the season. Yeah, why not? What's not? Yeah. Now, that's fun.

I did say between now and February. So the post seasons included here. Oh, then I'm definitely taking the over. See, I don't, I don't think the line is wrong, though, because there is a chance that he's like Golden Tate, but the edge rush,

Robert Quinn is probably the example. Bobby Quinn? Bobby Q. Bobby Q. Um, I, this backpack for middle school. Yeah, I was going to say he had some interesting wardrobe choices. He had the like beat up chance for it. And he like, he wore Dr. Brins blue says, but would rather kill him.

I'd rather kill him. I'd rather kill him. Let E.J. win crazy work. Thank you. I'm glad somebody knows he could die. It's right here, officer. That is so true.

Oh, man. Like, you remember when I'm... That's good. I said that, like, I sounded threatening when I said, I'm at the elevator. It was like the knife emoji. That's like you, like, I'm going to the Novacare complex. Nightfamoci.

Oh, man. I'll take the over on the Jalen Phillips sack total. I don't feel as good about it as you do, I would say. Yeah, I feel okay. about it. I'm still going over. Like, tepid over here. Just like right here.

How about Brandon Graham? What if I give you one and a half? Hmm. One and a half sacks for Brandon Graham. I don't know how many opportunities he's going to get. Can I have it between now and February? Sure. I'll take the over.

Okay. I mean, two sacks. You could do that. Yeah, I think so. All right. We can go through some of these more, some of these quickly. Jahan Dotson.

We talked about Jahan Dotson's target percentage. last year or sorry before the season I said it at 8% it's 7% so far this year it was 8.2% last year unbelievable that you yawned or that his target percentage is so low that they continue to do this

every single year with whoever number 3 receiver is just let just go run don't play football just go run they really should like lean into like Fred Johnson at wide receiver at some point Willie Lampkin yeah Willie I would like to see it

I mean You know what? No, I have to apologize It's got to be Cam Latu The man can be the third receiver It's gonna be Darius Cooper And he'll actually get the ball I like it Dary's they don't want him

They're not a receiver Because he's gonna need the ball to So have Cam Latu out there Is just like a missile When Devantes Smith or AJ Brown have the ball I would like to see it I'm taking the under on John Dotson target percentage I don't feel great about it

Jalen Carter Over Under 5 sacks I don't remember what the line was I can find it here I bet it was way more than that Oh I think it was it might have been eight Yeah it was eight sacks before the season

He's only got one So we're gonna go five And now this is overall So we're talking Yeah let's go overall with this one I guess I would have to take the under Yeah I mean do I think he's taking

Do I think he's getting four and a half sacks He but the thing is he could Like he's totally in play for him You know what I'll take the over Okay and take the over there. And we'll find out what you have next, E.J. In overtime.

Were you searching for something there? Were you, like, trying to figure out? I just didn't know what I had. I didn't really have anything in the holster. Okay. I respect it. It was still a good one. I was just, I was wondering if you had something.

I guess, given the intimate dome conversation, it could have been blow over time. I mean, we are in overtime, so I guess that joke is okay. I need to learn the, like, what we can cannot say in and out of overtime because I did I got a little bit of heat for not saying a during the show right but I just I don't know it is it's kind of a curse word it's not a curse word the payoff for that story wasn't very good if I'm being honest the ha ha a schedule I I find it funny it might be one of those things where it's like my wife and I like you know you you and your spouse will like have like your own language yeah like and it's funny to you guys

and it's not funny anybody else. That might have been one of those. It's okay. It happens. Live and learn. Yeah. Like I have like Brazilian names for our dogs that probably nobody else would find funny except for us. Depends what they are.

They're not good. Okay. Yeah. Maybe one. Why are they Brazilian? It's just kind of fun to add like an eno or an enia to the end of your dog's name. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. Sounds like you guys have a lot of fun in that house. Get it done in and out of the house. the studio. Perzac Berman. When I heard that on the playhouse, I was like, no, please. Why did you say that? All right.

How are we doing in the house after everything that happened yesterday? Everybody's fine. I appreciate you asking. Yeah, everybody's fine. I think my wife is mostly just annoyed at the prospect of me having to pick out another car because that's not a fun experience for honestly anyone. So, yeah. Do you want to tell people when that happened?

My wife hit a deer. She's fine. Everybody's fine. The car is not fine, but she's fine, fortunately. So, yeah, I appreciate you asking. I didn't want people thinking it was more Ojimo that she hit. If it was you, it would have been. That's Shady Ray.

Shady Ray told her. All right, do you got? I only have two more for you. Then we can revisit some preseason ones if you want. Zach Bond, this is one from the preseason. I had Zach Bon over under TFL's plus PBOUs. He had 15 last year. He has 10 so far this year.

We've got to each. Yeah. Unbelievable. Super. You're taking the over? E.J. E.J. E.N.o. I appreciate that. Um, yeah, I'll take the over. He's going to have opportunities. All right.

Drew Mukuba over under 12 starts. season. I mean, that one's pretty obvious, but it was a preseason one again. I wanted to revisit. Over. Yeah. I mean, obviously. Some of the other ones we had, we had Jahad Campbell over under four sacks. It's not looking good for that. He doesn't have any. Couldn't have any time, though. Yeah, I don't feel good about it. Quinion Mitchell, three and a half interceptions. Not feeling great about that one either. That was a big talking point in training camp that has not come to finish. I mean, the idea that he like super improved his hands because

he caught one in the bread basket, like way downfield. Like, give me a break. He had one good pick in training camp, but yeah, no, it's not, doesn't seem likely. He doesn't get targeted as much. I mean, he's never been targeted very much. And especially with the state of the secondary, I don't think it's going to happen. So, yeah, those are all the over-unders I have. What were the other ones from before the season? I think that's most of them.

Oh, I see. Yeah, no, that was most of them. I mean, you had some, but I didn't have yours. And I mean, come on. Can't be listening to your overrunners. Are you good over here? It's been a long day. For some of us.

Yeah, Julia included. I got here. You were sleeping away and all tucked away. comfy in your bed when we were grinding out hard work. Hanging out with Brandon Graham is not hard work. Maybe for Julia, she is doing things behind the scenes, even though you don't appreciate those things. I mean, you get Lindsay back there for like two shows and you're like, oh, Julia, who?

I've never heard of a Julia. What are you talking about? But how dare you? Come on. You're sitting there talking to Brandon Graham. it's not digging ditches as Zach Berman would say never heard him say that you've never heard him say it's not digging ditches are you joking

no I've never heard him say that all I watch that podcast episode that's the only thing I know about the guy come on I'm gonna break out the Zach seems file here I'm not going to respond to the response from an emailer because we're not pen pals here I grew up with five siblings we had people how do you know these things I listen the xxium's folder in my notes is a real thing

life is to be enjoyed life is to be lived how long have you known this person I've known Zach for seven years really yeah and this is the first I've seen him apparently so weird to have that kind of over I mean we're my life but the listeners like we're making progress

he's acknowledging his existence now so yeah I watch the episode I thought it was good. Happy Friday. I wish it was Wednesday. Why? On Wednesday, you've got the whole week in front of you.

This person sounds demented. You get to be here. You don't have to be here, right? Good life advice. Leaders eat less. Feels like something you read in a book once. It's like a Roger Goodell special. I'm trying to get myself out of this now.

So, like, I got to find a good one. that we can end on. You know what? This is a good one that we can end on. Be yourself. Everybody else is taken. That's a little hackneyed. I mean,

so you want me to keep going? Yeah, what is that on a napkin at home goods? You know what? This is a good one to end on. Okay. And this is like, for context,

it's about people who maybe don't like something or maybe they don't like the show or something like that. Okay. That's why Baskin Robbins has 31 flavors, right? Interesting. I've never heard that before.

I'm running out here. Well, I'm not actually running out, but do you want to keep doing this? It doesn't matter to me. The more I learned about this person, the more interesting in character they become. All right. His brother sells porta-potty fluid.

I guess I can read this in overtime. He's literally in the shit business. We could be doing worse things. Okay. That's the last one I'm reading. All right. that people seem to like it. I'm about to say it's probably good for them.

It's like they've been going through Zaxium withdrawal. You don't know what I'm talking about. No idea. Yeah. They understand. Yes, it's better to be pissed off than pissed on. That's mine. Is that you?

Don't tell me it's raining. Yeah. I don't like that expression. It feels even more lewd. How would you feel if you replaced? I'm not going to say it. Attack every day with an intensity unknown to mankind. I think that's a Jim Hardball quote, isn't it?

If it's not. Could be. The chat's going to be furious with me. Yeah? I think it is Jim Harbaugh. I was right. All right. Okay.

Oh, yeah. Do not ask for a lighter burden, but for broader shoulders, idiot sandwich. He's correct. It's in there. It is in there. Nice. I said that to him at the Ospreys. he was at the auspice

My award show All right I don't know There were a lot of people there Oh man I remember Cliff was there Cliffy too my boy Yeah shout out to Cliff

Just like a potta was rocking the Rocking the old school Pyramids scheme Birds with Friends t-shirt Fantastic A lot of great people there Yeah I agree with that Okay

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