PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - Landon Dickerson RETURNS + How much Goedert, Nakobe and others mean to Eagles | PHLY Eagles Podcast

Episode Date: February 26, 2026

Landon Dickerson is officially returning to the Eagles next season. Who from the group of free agents will return too? Bo Wulf and Jamie Lynch share their thoughts on who means most to the Eagles: Dallas Goedert, Nakboe Dean, Reed Blankenship or Jaelan Phillips. EJ Smith calls in to share the latest news from the NFL Combine and Fran Duffy gives a preview of the defensive line workouts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello everybody and welcome for the PHLY Eagles podcast, live from the Xfinity Studio, and presented by Bet365 and Ashley, we are back home in the studio and back home at our normal 2 o'clock time. Good to be settled in, Bo Wolf, joined today by the great Jamie Lynch. Jamie, how you doing? Hello, welcome back to the studio. Talk birds in a while. We haven't. And we haven't seen many people in the studio these last couple weeks, thanks to non-functioning toilets. most of the time. Give it up, give it up for

working plumbing. We can flush. We can wash hands. We are. The world is our oyster. Yeah. I mean, you guys gallivanting from San Fran to Indy to no plumbing. So it's been a while. It's good to see everybody back in the studio. Yeah. It feels much

cleaner when we're here. It was very, very depressing two and a half weeks here. Just like nobody here. Crickets everywhere. So it's good to have some energy back in the office. And good to have some energy back with the Eagles in the presence of Landon Dickerson, Jamie, as Landon Dickerson, essentially

revealing today on Instagram that he is coming back. Now, you would think that a player as young as he is, as good as he is, this was, you know, it should have been obvious, but he has dealt with some really serious injuries that have, I think, really affected him, especially over the past year, reportedly considered coming back, but follow suit with Lane Johnson. The Eagles now have Lenin Dickerson back as well. How do you feel about it? about that. This is a tough one because it's like good news, bad news, because the good news is Landon's returning. Also, the good news is it probably justifies his dip in performance last year. Good point. The bad news is now I'm just thinking the end of his career is right around the turn.

And it's going to be that way forever. So Landon, I know, you know, had severe knee problems in college and injury history is something that's haunted him forever. to think his career could be this cut short is kind of depressing because he's such a great player when healthy. And it's interesting because this is sort of was the scouting report on him when he came out. Yeah. You know, let's make this the right people presented by our friends

at True Mark Financial because the Eagles do have the right people coming back in the form of Lane Johnson and Landon Dickerson that he dealt with those injuries in college. She's like, okay, it's on the table that you might have a guy who's great, but it's not going to be around for a long time. Now, the Eagles sign him to the extension. He's one of the highest paid guards in football.

Obviously, they want him back. But yeah, it is likely that this is not going to go the way of Lane Johnson where he's going to be here for 15 years. Yeah. Every season now in the back of my head is going to be like, oh, damn, is Landon done? And that's tough for a front office too, you know, because you have to have those honest conversations with them of like, how you feel in every year?

because that goes into your draft, you know, program and model. And maybe you're drafting his replacement two years in advance. Maybe you got caught off guard and have to draft them that year out of, you know, your draft board in order. So it's kind of a, it's good news. I'm happy for Landon that he's coming back and he's like injury free enough to play again. But at the same time, I'm like, oh, damn, the end is near. And this, if him and Lane are gone and Juergens with his, you know,

stem cell Ecuador trips or Columbia trips, wherever. A little rumor that landed might be following suit. Oh, yeah. Might be making that trip to Columbia as well. I am pro stem cell. Like, go get it, boys. Yeah.

I mean, whatever you want to do to go take care of yourselves. You want to go the Kobe Bryant German blood cycling route? Go for it. But yeah, it's kind of sad that this one's dominant offensive line that you didn't even have to think about. Well, it's going to be a really, really interesting. It's something you really have to think about. You know, let's, if the Eagles do not make some kind of huge splash, if AJ Brown is back,

and it's just sort of improvements on the margins and, you know, nothing, you know, no howie-wows, there's no doubt that the most interesting part of training camp is going to be the offensive line. Yeah. And it's all of those guys coming back. Now, you understand why they were all banged up. They went to the Super Bowl. That is a tail as old as time. Now they get, you know, an extra month.

to recover. I think they feel like they will be feeling better. But in a post-Jephsoutland world, with a new offensive line coach who doesn't have a great track record and also usually looks for different kinds of qualities, Lennon Dickerson is not necessarily

the prototype of a wide zone guard, right? He is more of a powerful mauler. I think he will be fine in the system. He's a great player when healthy, but it's going to be just watching all these moving parts moving in different ways. It's going to be really interesting. Yeah, it is. And Jordan talking about, you know, the new guy with you guys at Radio

at the Super Bowl and, like, Lane, you know, through Baldy and others saying like, yeah, there was a second where they had to think, like, how much does this new coach affect our decision to return? All of a sudden, and look, I believe that the Eagles, Stoutland was a big part of my belief, unfortunately, that they can replace these guys effectively and keep it going. And I still believe they, you know, have to build through the trenches, but all of a sudden, the, the end is kind of not in the rearview mirror anymore. It's, it's quickly approaching. And that's a scary thought because it's been such a great line. Yeah, well, that's true. We're not getting any younger, Bo. Well, that'll do it for the right people presented by our friends at True Mark Financial.

Landon Dickerson is back. But that's good news. Exciting news for the Eagles. Yes. Yes. I don't want be too doom and gloom about it, but I can't help to think about the end. But yes, it's good. He's back. Hopefully, he's feeling good and hopefully those Columbia stem cells from your alma mater, I believe, right? Is that right? I believe it was a Wake Forest

program that... Oh, I didn't know this. Yeah. Alex. Yeah, so the deacons. On yesterday's show, EJ. and I were batting around the idea of Nicopi Dean or Breed Blankenship, eventually landing in Dallas, where Christian Parker is falling.

a new defense and our friend Clarence Hill reporting yesterday that they do in fact the Cowboys have significant interest in Nicopi Dean. What do you make of that? I kind of want to puke on this table. I've accepted that Nicopi's gone. And it's a shame because he's so likable and he was so good coming off of injury and you just can't pay everyone.

That's the reality of the world. But of all the teams to follow Christian Parker to Dallas, that is just a tough pill to swole. Let me ask you this. Of the big four free agents for the Eagles, Nikobie Dean, Reed Blankenship, Dallas Goddard, Jalen Phillips,

rank them in order of not, I don't want you to factor in like how likely it is the Eagles will resign them. I want you to rank them in order of how painful it will be to watch them play in another jersey. It's a tough question. Jalen Phillips I probably have the least equity with. Yeah, so he's probably fourth

just because he plays at a premium position. and some of the numbers rumored to be around him. It's like, see you later. Dallas Goddard's tough because I always thought the Eagles offense was at its best when they were feeding him. He had such big play potential. It was a pretty good blocker for the majority of his time here. Always felt like an explosive play was in his realm.

Nicobi only played two of the four years he was here, whereas Dallas had the more like sweat equity with the fan base. Sure. And then who was the fourth? Reed. Black. Reed. Reed, I feel like they can't lose. Okay.

I think, I think Dallas Goddard's going to be, uh, Reed would probably be the most painful. Okay. Interesting. I'm surprised by that. Just because,

is that you putting on your all city hat? No, no. I think the thing with safety play is, it goes underappreciated until you have bad ones. Yeah. And Reed has been such a stalwart and like, staple back there that if they moved on from them, I fear what would be next.

Like, Drew McCuba's not there yet where you can just turn it over to them and feel good. And then you don't have much, you know. So I feel like his removal would be the most painful from an optics of watching the game standpoint. Okay. Dallas Goddard, you just kind of like, I think I would go read, Goddard, Nicobie. No. Read. Yeah, read Goddard, Nicobie.

Okay. Jalen, I think would be the order. Okay. Dallas was... I'm a little surprised. I am too, actually, now that I say it out of that. I get the, uh, Reed will be tough to replace.

But I don't, I don't know that Reed has engendered the same love from the fan base as... Yes, if you're going pure like EQ, just like attachment. I think Dallas... You see this person putting on a cowboy's jersey. How it would hurt you. Nikovi is pretty tough. I think Nikovi might be the worst one.

Dallas would be tough. Yeah, but Dallas has put in so much time here that it's almost. It almost looks like a joke. It's like it's like, it's like Ertz and a commander's jersey. It's like, that's fine.

You know what? I'm happy you're getting paid. Yeah. You gave us so much. Go get that bag. Like Nicoby has a chance to go somewhere and then be great. And then that be the team that he's remembered for.

Yeah, you might be right there. Because Nikobe played unbelievable football this year. Yeah. To see him do that in a cowboy's jersey. Oof. That would hurt. Yeah.

I don't know. That's a fun one to bound around. It is because I'm thinking like the attachment is mostly with Dallas and Nikobe. Like, because you're right. Reid doesn't have the attachment. I guess I was thinking more from like a replacement plan. Yeah, I want to know how your heart feels.

I think NCOB will be. If it was any other team but the Cowboys, any other team outside the NFCE. Yeah. I think it would be more palatable. Tell me about any of these other free agents if you would feel any kind of way in seeing them in a,

Let's call this one a Giants jersey. Okay. None of these are crazy. Braden Mann. He was really good this year. Marcus Epps. I like Epps as a depth piece. Ben Van Sumeran.

BVS. Grand Calcuttaire. I see you. Fred Johnson. Toth. Jahan Dotson. Yeah, I got no. Okay.

No emotional attachment. See you, guys. Okay. Yeah, I think Nikkobe was probably I mean it's it's interesting because Nikobe has over the course of his time with the team been much less valuable than Reed and and obviously Dallas got and that's what I'm like about it that's what I'm trying to juggle it's just that when he does play and when he's on he could be the best to watch and he really like he is a he is a heart mover yeah and he's got such a good smile and you see

how much the lot got a root for yeah like you see how much everybody loves them Um, yeah. And I think in the building, I, I think they know that it is very unlikely they are going to be able to bring him back. But I think they are worried about what the loss of him will mean in the building on the field because of the leadership that he brings, not just with the Georgia guys, but especially with the Georgia guys. I was going to say him and Jordan Davis are kind of the glue of the Georgia guys, right? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And they all look up to him and they took a shot on them. They kind of invested that. he would bounce back and he did and he rewarded their chance on him and then to just see him go to a division opponent like that, that would, that would probably, you're probably right. It would probably gut me the most. Okay. But I do worry about Reed leaving. Yeah. I mean, they don't have, they certainly don't have anybody internally to replace them at the moment. Yeah. And you don't really want to go with another rookie to play next year guy. And then you don't have to sign a

When you have Quignan and Cooper, you don't really want to spend a ton of financial capital at safety. It's tough. This offseason is just weird. It's going to be very interesting. Because there's not going to be a lot of paper upgrades that gets people doing naked cartwheels down Broad Street. It's going to be a lot of self-promotion. He's going to do something. You think?

You think there's a rabbit in that? He's always got something. What do you think it is? I don't know. Max Krozby is too big of a rat. That would be. That would surprise. me.

What size move are we talking here? I don't know. He's going to do something. That's how he Roseman. Yeah, he always does something. Stay tuned to find out. All right, let's take our first break here on the P.H.O.Y. Eagles podcast on the other side, E.J. Smith joins us from the combine to tell us any whispers he's heard over the past 24 hours. After that, Fran Duffy, to talk about the combine tonight.

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I don't care what you do with the money, but you got to go see how much you can make at airdNA.com slash eagles. All right, we are back on the PHA Y Eagles podcast, and look who we have. E.J. Smith, our Eagles Insider, live from the Combine on the Xfinity Mobile call-in line. E.J., how you doing? I'm doing okay. I'm a little sad that you're not with me in Indianapolis now. It's weird. It's weird for you to be there and for me not to be there.

Yeah, you know, I had a nice night last night. I hung out with one Zach Berman. We had a good time. You know, pounded the person. pavement, pounded the carpet. I got to tell you, I think that this year's combine, I think actually the convention center during the day may be slightly more productive than the bar crawl at night.

I think that we might be seeing a trend here in Indianapolis. I think you need to, you got to move your hours to earlier. I think the coffee shops in the morning is maybe even a better place. What is that supposed to mean? I was here earlier this morning. It means you're a sleeping, lazy guy. Yeah, that's what I thought you were inferring, and I didn't appreciate that. You're out till 4 in the morning, you know, dripping it up with the rest of the league when the real decision makers are up early.

Yeah, I'm about to say, you won't, I spent a record low amount of time in prime this year. And honestly, I feel fine about that decision. Like I said, walking around the convention center, you never know who you're going to bump into. So it's been a good, it's been a good combo. What a tease. Well, tell me, give me a little nugget. because, you know, you and I have been talking, but I wasn't with you the past 24 hours. Give me something that you heard that I wasn't there to hear.

Give me just a little something. Okay. Do you want like a small thing that the sickos will love or do you want like a big picture thing? Where would you like to start? Let's start with the big picture thing and let them let the sickos hang around for the little nugget. Okay. I like that. I like that. So my big picture takeaway here is I've actually heard a lot of optimism about the way the Eagles offense is going to look. there's a lot of, there are a lot of things that the Eagles are going to have to figure out offensively from a roster building perspective. And also the sense I got while we were here is that they're really in the early part of the installation process with Sean Mannion. And it isn't like they have a really good handle on what will be and what won't be the type of the things that they're going to major.

And, you know, I think that there's still a lot of install and, you know, imaginative or imagination. Julia, you can come in. It's okay. It's okay. I'm talking to E.J., but you can come in. Yeah. So, yeah, I think that there's still a lot of work to do with the offense in terms of what the scheme is going to look like.

But I think there's an optimism and, like, you know, an invigoration about the fact that this is a new staff and that there's a new vision for what it's going to look like. And, you know, the offensive lines are going to have an offseason of rest. You know, Devante is going to have a bigger role that everyone's really excited about. There's a lot of buzz around that. The one thing that I think has. has been interesting is that we have not heard much about how Jalen will look in this new system.

We haven't heard much about this system is perfect for Jalen, which is interesting because it's probably the most important thing, right? You know, it's like, how is the quarterback going to look at this? So I think that that's a, it's a huge question. I wish, I wouldn't say I wish, but I would have expected to hear more, more, people more bullish on how Jalen will look on it. I think it's a big projection how he will look in the system. And I think that the fact that you haven't heard as much about that is probably reflective of it.

Well, I think some of that is that we have heard, you know, don't expect this to all of a sudden become a passing offense, right? This is a lot of this. And it goes with what Nick Siriani said publicly is the focus here was to kind of fix the running game. And that's, that is the way that they want to be built, which is interesting given what we know that Jeffrey Lurie cares about and the way that Howard Roseman has built a team in the past. it's interesting but I also think I don't know exactly what to make of it but I did get the same sense as you

it's not like people are like I can't wait to see Jalen in this offense I think Howie dipped his toe into that a little bit but I don't know maybe that is just the nature of the interpersonal dynamics between Jalen and the building at the moment yeah yeah I'm not saying that there's like

a super high level of concern about how Jalen would look in the offense but it is kind of the one absence I feel like where, you know, you don't hear people who are, what's saying it, like, with their full chest, like, Jalen's going to really kill it in the system. And again, I think as they figure out what exactly the system is going to be, whether some of the RPO stuff that Jalen has been really good at in the past, whether they can incorporate that into a McVeigh-Shanahan-style system,

because you really don't see that very much. So I think that's another big question that I have that as it pertains to Jalen is, what parts of the offense are they going to keep, you know, from what parts of the past iterations of the Siegel's offense are going to make it into this new system. And, you know, are those the things that Jalen does really well? Because that probably would make you feel a little bit more confident as you take on this big leap into a very different scheme that asks the quarterback to do a lot of different things. And what level of influence is Jailen going to have in any of that stuff as those decisions are made? Yeah, I mean, we've talked about it before.

Like, Jalen's a big Y guy. You know, he needs to understand the why behind what they're doing. So, you know, I think we've heard a lot of good things about Sean Mannion. You know, I imagine that he would be a strong communicator and very capable of explaining the why. But, you know, we have seen the examples in the past where the offense has maybe lacked some imagination. And, you know, I think it's fair to say that some of that is reflective of the fact that maybe some coaches have struggled to really explain the why to Jalen Hertz. Okay. Now, I think part of that, as we talk about the interpersonal dynamics and just what the building is like,

as you talk to people around the league, what is their level of fascination with the Eagles at the moment? Yeah, it's funny that you ask that because I have run into some people who have worked for the Eagles who have worked for the Eagles, who no longer work for the Eagles. And I think there's always like a consensus where people will just go like, man, that is a unique building. That's a dramatic building. Yeah, it's an intense building. I think a lot of them look back on it with like fond memories. Obviously, the team has been successful,

but, you know, acknowledging that fact that, you know, you go somewhere else and it's usually different. So, you know, to me, I think it's not necessarily like a criticism of the Eagles for running the organization the way that they do. They're successful. And I think, you know, even they would acknowledge that. You know, the fact that their building is not for everyone, but they have been successful because they run it that way.

And yeah, I think that there's been a mix of some people, were like, cool, man, like, you know, it was really tough there and, you know, maybe not as positive. But most of those, most of the people I do talk about who will say that, like, man, that is a unique and intense experience working at in Philadelphia. I think they look back on it honestly with, like, fond memories because it is, like, painted by the success that the team has had recently. It's not dissimilar from the way that Nick talked about Sean Mannion, right? Yeah.

And the idea that there were people who didn't want to work in the building. And, okay, if they don't want to work here, then that's fine. We'll find somebody who does. Right, right. Yeah, no, I mean, there's, we've talked about it. There's a pressure and an intensity. There's an expectation, right, when you work for the Eagles. And I think that's what sums it up to the, for the most part, I think that sums it up.

And I think, you know, it's not for everybody, but the people who it is for, yeah, they can enjoy the fact that, you know, I was saying this as someone earlier. Like, an eight, nine season in Philadelphia is generally viewed as a failure, you know. You go 10 and 7, like, that's, you might lose your job. you know, that's not going to be the case everywhere that you would work. You know, there's plenty of places in the league that would be very happy with that. So yeah, it's a different experience,

but again, I think it's kind of like those expectations have been earned and a lot of people do like working at a place like that. But it's funny because we, this is where we get to see the whole league and, you know, you sort of do realize like not everybody's like graded on the same rubric, you know, as people in the Eagles building. That's fair.

But that's also, it's good. They should have high expectations. All right. All right, you tease this, you tease this little nugget. Give me this little sicko nug. All right, so I don't want to oversell it because, you know, who knows where this will actually go. But people are really bullish on Drew Kendall, you know, multiple people I've talked to. Like just bringing up Drew Kendall as like, oh, man, like he had a really good rookie season.

Yeah. And it got me thinking about the potential to move Cam Juergens over. I'm not saying this is a week one situation at all. I think that, you know, as injuries play out, what the Eagles do in the draft, could you see a world where Drew Kendall is starting at center and then Cam Juergens can play guard in this new version of the Eagles offense? You know, previous iterations of the Eagles offense,

you're expecting those guards to be Mackay Beckham-Brickon types, Brandon Brooks types, obviously, Lana Dickerson types where you've got big, powerful guards who can sort of, you know, displace people at the point of attack. In an outside zone system that Sean Mannion is, you know, we assume we'll at least have a, you know, part of the Eagles run game probably will be moving more toward outside zone, which prioritizes movement skills and athleticism.

You maybe could get by with Cam Juergens at guard. And then I think the other thing that that would do that would benefit the Eagles, again, this is a long-term thing. I think that the thing, part of what I think people really like about Drew Kendall is the way that he sees the game. And, you know, I think while Cam Jurgens has been a center for most of his career, I think that the calls, like being able to take the calls off his plate, might be beneficial too.

So, you know, like if you have somebody like Drew Kendall who has been a center, his whole life, he's got the pedigree, he's got the experience. I think that they are like bullish on not only him as a player, but him as somebody who could sort things out at the line of scrimmage. So this might be a year from, a year early. You know, maybe we're a year early on this. But just like the amount of, about of times I've heard Drew Kendall's name for people this week, it's like, okay, I'm filing that one away.

Well, I'll tell you, you said it there. But the thing that's most fascinating about that is, Okay, Drew Kendall had a good year in the building. They're excited about Drew Kendall. They're thinking about is there a way to get both him and Cam Juergens off the field? If Lenin Dickerson retires or gets injured again, Tyler Steen's going to be a free agent. How do we big picture fill out the big five of the offensive line? But Drew Kendall is bigger than Cam Jerkins.

Drew Kendall's 64308. Cam Jergens is 6-3-303 or something like that. It's very similar, but Kendall is bigger. And so if the internal on the limb too. No, but if the internal thought, I mean, you've heard that. If the internal thought is Juergens is the one that we would move, not Kendall, that tells you a lot about the way they feel about Jurgens handling the mental load of the pre-snap stuff. Yep.

I think you're spot on there. I think that, you know, there were times last year where the Eagles did struggle with pre-snap diagnosis. And, you know, obviously, Cam Juergens had a tough year all around, you know, physically. And I think it also probably did seep into some of the stuff sorting out. out pre-snap at the line of scrimmage. So, you know, that's a good point by you. And I was even going to go so far as saying, like, I think based off of anecdotal evidence being in the locker room,

I think Drew Kendall is the type of guy who goes up in weight during the season. And Cam is one of those guys who loses weight during the season. So I think that, like, their listed sizes, like, their listed weights are probably even closer than their actual weights would be mid-way through the year. Now, the other, the flip side to that, the other reason that it could be is Jurgens is obviously a better athlete than Drew Kendall. So if the guard spot is all of a sudden is now really the place where you want to have that athlete, then maybe that's the reason for using him more as a weapon on the move

than having him be stuck inside. Yeah. I got one more small offensive lineman, well, not small. You know, just, you know, I've heard good things about Cameron Williams as well. Yeah. The fact that he came in and played. We were all impressed with what he did in week 18. Yeah.

Yeah. I think that feeling is shared inside the building as well. those are two guys to keep an eye on during camp i'm not saying that this is um imminent thing that you know week one cam jerkins is going to be starting a guard because you don't really know the pathway for him to do it unless somebody's hurt anyway um but yeah i think drew kendall might be a bigger part of that interior offensive line like succession planning than maybe you would expect base off his draft i'd agree all right i think that's a good nugget i appreciate that e j yeah you know like i said pound in the pavement uh since yesterday's episode um i have heard from

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at St. Elmo's in Heronies is it's good. It's got a horse radish kick. I mean, if you've had a little too much wasabi before, you've experienced it. It's fine. Yeah, like your sinuses just light up. Yeah. know, I don't, I mean, it's good.

I wouldn't believe about it. It's the type of thing when you're here, you get it because it's one of the only places you'll probably get something like that. At least, you know, I'm not a foodie like you, but I wouldn't get that somewhere in Philly. So I always get it. And when I get it, do you like, I like cut up the shrimp. Like I'm like, you know, I try to really, I don't want to overdo it and be like coughing

or like wheezing or, you know, whatever. You know, I try to really pace myself. Be a man. Yeah. So you just, you just eat the whole shrimp then. Yeah. Okay, because that's what Fran did. And I was like, man, of course.

Guys, like such a football guy. Be a man. You're already eating shrimp. Yeah, but like the cutting up your shrimp flavor. That's so dainty. Yeah. It is. I was sitting there with Fran and I'm like, I feel like such a whim because like I'm sitting here like

cutting it up, like making sure there's not too much on there. And Fran is just taking it and just eating it. I mean, listen, the guy, he's a football guy. Now, did you get your steak as you like it, medium well? I got it medium rare and it was very good. No, I did not get it medium well. I mean, listen, no, I got nothing against somebody who likes a medium well steak. Whatever you want, whatever your preferences.

E.J. likes his steak like he likes his reporting. Well done. Actually, no. I do like my reporting that way. All right, E.J. Thank you so much. We will talk to you tomorrow at 2 o'clock. You'll be back in studio.

You'll see me tomorrow. Yeah. What it is that we should talk about on the show tomorrow. Let's figure it out. I will think about that. Yes. All right. Back with more here on the P.H.L.

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Fran, do you miss me? I miss you. It's been far too long. It's been about 24 hours. I know. It's a sad 24 hours. We went a long time before that. Now I'm used to you.

How was dinner last night? Dinner was good. Yeah, I had a little steak. It was my last like real dinner before, before the madness kicks off with drills and stuff tonight. So I usually have a, you know, treat myself to a nice deal or a nice meal.

and then that's a little bit smaller, smaller fare the rest of the way. All right. Well, let's get to that because the reason that is the case is that the drills begin tonight. And it starts with the defensive lineman. If you have not seen it yet, Fran has, you know, it's interesting.

You call these cheat sheets, Fran. I feel like cheat sheet implies like quick and dirty. There's nothing, there's nothing quick about these bad boys. You, you are. No, I'm not, I'm not, I'm trying to sell the people. This is if you want to. to have a preview of what to expect, what to care about throughout the workouts over the next four days, you start with Fran's breakdowns.

And you have the whole defensive line breakdown here, and we can work through some of it. But from an Eagles perspective, let's think about if is there someone who you think could be good enough at 23 overall or around there if the Eagles move around to sway them from ongoing offense. If there's someone who's just screaming, best player available, we care about the line of scrimmage, we cannot pass up this level of player. Who might that be? Really the only one that I can foresee falling to them, you know, within striking

distance even, would be Keldrick Falk. And that's a guy that is definitely, you know, I'm stamping, I'm sticking my neck out for his your guy. Yeah, this is a guy that I'm extremely high on. He's my number one pass rusher in this class, ahead of Varl Reese, ahead of David Bailey. The best way that I would describe it is that I think all three are like potential blue chip players, you know, moving forward into the NFL and all them have, you know,

slightly different skill sets. Celtic Falk is big. I mean, six, six, two hundred and eighty pounds. He got measured today. The measurements are all outstanding. I'll be plugging them into the, into the draft guy tonight at some point, probably like 2 a.m. So they are going to be putting all that stuff in. But he's a bigger guy.

And he's, he's really young, doesn't turn 21 until, until mid-September. He was, he had seven, six. sacks as a sophomore. He's, uh, he had only had two this past year. That's the big knock is all or is the production. This guy has been productive at points in his career, extremely young, was a two-time captain, represented them at media days as a, as a sophomore, first time ever that ever happened in Auburn history. Uh, he's got a clean medical record. I mentioned the character. He's athletic. He's disruptive. There's just a lot to love about this profile with Keldrick Falk. I don't think it's a matter of if he becomes a good player,

like a great player at that position. To me, it's a matter of when. And I do think It's like, all right, you might need a year for him to kind of get there. But I really, really like Keldrick Falk. Now, David Bailey, he's going to go top five. Arvel Reese, he's probably going to go top five as well from Ohio State. They're a little bit a little bit more slender, a little bit smaller. You know, they've got some holes in the profile as well. But if Keldrick Falk would have fall, you know, into the late teens, you know, into the early 20s, to me,

that's one. I can't pass up on that profile. Now, is there a chance that playing inside is his best spot at the next level? I thought so when I was coming into the fall. You know, I did him over the summer and it was like, if he's, if he's 6, 6.2.80 right now. Like, all right, you know, is he going to be able to add a little bit more weight on? As I did more work here from this fall, you know, I kind of saw more of a little bit more

of like a slender torso, right? And I'll, this is the chance. Okay. I'm going to be able to see him up close to really kind of gauge this. But I was like, you know, because I was kind of going back and forth. He was able to rush from both alignments. He worked inside. He worked outside.

You know, Arriek Armstead is a player that has come up for me. as I was studying him, and he is a guy that has kind of bounced back and forth between edge and defensive tackle in his career. I do think that that's one of the things with him is you love the versatility. He can win from both alignment. It's not like positionless.

He's able to win from both spots. And I think you could talk yourself into, if Jalen Phillips leaves, you do want someone who has that bigger body type. You know, with Nolan, Jalix, Hunt, Jelix is a little bit bigger, but they don't have that really big guy. I can, you know, I don't think that's crazy.

So what should Eagles fans watch him do tonight and care about? Yeah, I think that to me, you want to see, because I'll be interested to see what are the raw numbers look like. But then you have to keep in mind, you have to contextualize the weight. You know, at 280 pounds, you know, if he runs a, you know, I'm throwing numbers out. If he runs a 4-6, that is not the same as a 240-pound pass-russia running a 4-6, right? So just, you know, making sure you keep that context in mind. I'll be trying to provide that as much as I can live, but then also keep an eye out. for it in the draft guide. I think that

watching Keldrick Falk go through everything that's going to be big for now. A lot of these other big names, we're not going to see them test. We're not going to see Ruben Bain Jr. from Miami. He's not going to test. We'll see some of these other guys. So it's going to be fascinating. It's going to be a good night. It's a good group to start this

off with because I think the edge rush group is probably the best overall position in this class. Oh, interesting. Let's clip that. That's a good little nugget there, Fran. I want to ask you about Rubin Bain, even though he is not testing time. And as you said, because I just finished with BG

and everybody makes that comparison because Ruben Bain has the short arms. I was just reading BG, his scouting report from back then. And the hook was short, thickly built, which, you know, okay, we'll take that. Yeah.

Do you think that the BG comparisons are fair for Ruben Bain and could he be in play at 23? I just think he's going to be off the board. I do think it feels like he's going to go. You know, I think there are too many teams where they will look past the arm length. Look, sub-31-inch arms. I mean, that's the short arms.

But I think that to me, I always talk about this one, whether we're talking hand-sized for quarterback's arm length for tackles and with pass rushers or corners. It's not a problem unless it's a problem. And with me, with Ruben Bain, like, I don't see it as a problem when I'm watching him on tape. You know, I've watched him dominate as an 18-year-old freshman at Miami in the ACC. I don't really need to see anything more. Is he a top shelf athlete? No.

I wrote Brandon Graham down as a comparison. I wrote Vinnie Curry down as a comparison for Ruben Bain Jr. So Melvin Ingram is a guy that comes to mind. You know, all these like sought off pass rushers that just play with, you know, relentless violence that are always going a million miles an hour. I think that absolutely applies here for Rubin Bain Jr. To me, he's going to go off the board. It could be as early as I've talked with people like, you know, our PH and X group over at,

you know, the Cardinals at three. they're like oh, Ruben Bain could be in play for the Cardinals. So as early as three, I can't imagine he falls past. Like, you know, Kansas City's at nine, Cincinnati's at 10, Dallas is at 12. Like I don't think any of those three teams are going to be passing on Ruben Bain. All right. Now let's stick with the edge before we move to defensive tackle. Who are the guys, you know, day two, day three guys who you expect to impress tonight?

Yeah. I think it starts with R Mason Thomas, the pass rusher from Oklahoma. You know, when I studied him early on and I was like, ah, like he might be kind of like a Bryce Huffish, like designated pass rusher type, which is fine. Like those guys have value, but we know like what the downside can be with a profile like that. I do think that he does enough against the run where I'm willing to kind of look past

some of the the shortcomings there. But Armason Thomas should test really well, you know, a little slightly undersized, but good first step. Initially, you know, the lateral quickness is all there. Romello height from Texas Tech. He's a little bit high cut, but I would imagine like the 40-yard dash, the jumps, saw that. So anything that's like this linear straight line, I think will look really, really strong for him. Josh Joseph's from Tennessee, probably like more of a mid to late round type.

I think he's going to test really well as well. So those are the guys that stand out from a testing standpoint from this edge class. All right. And then also in this breakdown, you have the guys who have the most at stake, essentially. So I'm going to read you the other three aside from Keldrick Folk. Can you tell me why they are important players to watch? Akeem Mezzador from Miami. L.T. Overton from Alabama and Nadam Tucker? I believe it's Nadame. Nadame Tucker. Look, with Mesidor and Tucker, the issue is that they are old.

Tucker is 26. And Mesodore turns 25 right before the drought, early April. And Mesdor... That's all I need to hear. Get out. Don't need it. Look, people are talking about Mesidor as a lock first round pick. And I can't... I can't get there. Yeah, I cannot get there. And maybe he is.

I think that there are a handful of teams that, like, if you told me the Dallas Cowboys, they select, you know, sunny styles or, you know, a linebacker or a safety at 12 and then they come back at 20. That is a team that has been willing to take chances on guys that fall due to injury or character, age. Like, they've taken guys that are outliers in those certain spots if they think that they can get value with those picks.

So I could see them going with the key Mesdor. That, to me, would be the ceiling. But this is a player. that a sixth year senior. I just mentioned he turns 25 before the draft. He was extremely productive this year. He has not always been consistently productive. He's got a history of foot injuries.

He had a foot surgery going back to his days at West Virginia, transferred to Miami, missed some time, missed a couple games this year with a foot injury. So we're talking about an older player who won with technique and the ability to win at the top of the rush. I mean, you're extremely refined. That's what do you expect from a 24-year-old rusher. So it's a tough profile to bet on.

The film's good. Like I like the film, but the profile's questionable. So to me, he needs to test well. If you're going to buy into it, like, he's going to have to test well here at this event. All right. Last edge guy I want to ask you about just because I'm going through the comparisons, which I hope everybody can look at on the diehard draft guide. And I see lesser Matt Judon.

And to me, that's the one that piques my interest. So tell me about Malachi Lawrence from UCF. He's a compact rusher. I think he built very similarly to Matt Judon. when Judon was coming out. I want to say Grand Valley a few years ago with New England. And I think when you're looking at Lawrence, what I like most about him is he's really good with his hands.

So his ability to win at the top of the rush is pretty advanced for a guy. He's a fourth year senior. So, you know, not an old. He's on the older side. But this is a guy that has the ability to win with technique. Shorter arms than maybe what you would like, not as short as Ruben Bain. But this is a guy that can win at the top of the arc does just enough as a run defender.

Not a guy that I think is going to stand out in that area. That would probably be my first. biggest knock. But I think a lot of people had those same concerns about Judon as well, not just coming out of college, but even in the NFL at times. So to me, that's one. I think you're probably talking like third round, fourth round for Malachi Lawrence from Central Florida.

All right. Let's talk defensive tackles quickly. And we'll spend less time here because it is harder to imagine the Eagles using a premium pick on a defensive tackle, given everything they have there, the money they're going to have to spend. And it's also, you talked about how the edge is maybe the best group in this class. defensive tackle. I mean, I'm looking here. You got one guy in your top 30 and only two in your top 50,

which feels a little bit atypical from recent years for defensive tackles. Like, is there any way you could squint and see Peter Woods making sense for the Eagles? I would, that would surprise me unless there was the other, oh, we get into back to our no bad ideas and you're not going to be bringing back to Taylor Carter extension. I think they would feel it would be hard to try and squeeze him in there. He's not working out this week, which we just found Adam Schaefter broke that, a little bit ago.

So he's not working out. He had a little bit of a down year. The production wasn't there. And then even like the level of the quality of the tape fell off a little bit for me. Now I'm hoping he goes to the position workout. But he is a disruptive player. Clearly to me, the DT.

I think when you're looking at some of the other guys that are into contention there, you know, you talk about Caden McDonald from Ohio State. You know, he's more run stuffer and doesn't give you much as a as a pass rusher. Lee Hunter, kind of similar from Texas Tech. I would say the other guy that's kind of the wild card there is Caleb Banks.

and he was a top 15 player for me coming into the season. He's a little bit older. He's going to be a 24-year-old rookie who is a 330-pound defensive tackle. He's got some pass rush upside, but he's got a long history of foot injuries over the last 13, 14 months where he missed a ton of time. He only played three games this past year. So a bigger guy who was a little bit of a late breakout with a foot injury,

that's a little bit of a concern on the profile. I also have to ask you about I was editing these pieces. and I had to text you because there's a great nickname in here. Dominique Orange, the Big Citrus. I mean, one of the best nicknames we've seen from any prospect in recent memory. Six foot four, 325 pound nose tackle. Big Citrus is just, it's an unbelievable nickname. He's a good player.

Is the juice worth the squeeze? Yeah. In the second round, I would say no. You get into the third, fourth round. We'll get there. Okay. Right. Anything else for the defensive tackles? Anybody who you want to plant a flag on as a day three guy that you like?

Yeah, I mean, there are some smaller school guys that, you know, kind of move the needle a little bit for me. I really like Caleb Proctor from Southeast Louisiana, saw him down at the Shrine Bowl. And I thought that he really flashed down there. Jackie Marshall from Baylor. I think he's got a really athletic kid who's, you know, got some first step quickness.

So those would be a couple names, like later round types that, you know, we've seen the Eagles take, take some chances on in that area of the draft and hit. So those would be some names to keep an eye on. All right. Everybody go check out Fran's previews for the Combine. We look forward to following it all. And as you said, check out that diehard draft guide because Fran is going to be updating all of the results as things happen. So a big week for you.

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We are at the combine. And what that means is that all of the league's decision makers are here. Howie is meeting and talking to the other GMs from the other teams, the agents around the league. And so what the Eagles have done is they have basically soft said, this is the week where if you want to talk about AJ Brown, let's discuss it this week. And I think the Eagles will know by the end of this week whether or not they are going to trade AJ Brown. If it is widely known that Howie Roseman is gauging the league's interest in meeting his price for star receiver, Brown, how can the Eagles bring him back even if a team doesn't step up to meet it? In what could be a last chance for franchise legend Lane Johnson, the last ride with DC Vic Fangio,

and maybe even a crossroads for the head coach Nick Siriani himself, how can you bring back AJ Brown if the main issue is the drama surrounding him to begin with? Hello everyone, welcome to Bill Adelphia presented by Togo. Now I have been solidly against the idea of trading AJ, but his drop-filled performance against the 49ers and a few questionable plays leading up to the playoffs has opened the door to me being at least okay with it, assuming how he makes a subsequent move to bolster the receiving core after moving your number one guy. But now that it's public, now that it has been reported as a possibility, doesn't it have to happen?

How can you put the locker room and coaching staff in the position of dealing with this situation, even if a team doesn't meet your exact price tag? The fact that Bo Wolf is saying, this is what the Eagles are doing at the Combine, it is what they are using this week for, that has created a situation in which this isn't just speculation, And therefore, it has to happen. Even if there isn't a direct move lined up to replace the man who has put up 32 touchdowns in over 5,000 yards in his four seasons with the Eagles, this feels inevitable. And that's a bummer because A.J. Brown has been awesome in Midnight and Kelly Green.

But now we have to trust Howie to get the absolute most in return because you cannot bring back a malcontent after openly shopping him like this. It would feel an awful lot, like, I don't know, drafting a quarterback in the second round while a quarterback on a monster contract is still here, which was a situation that happened

and ultimately resulted in the firing of the organization's first Super Bowl winning head coach. I have to believe how we learn from that experience. And that means if this trade talk is out there, which it is, it will eventually be consummated. There are no other options. And again, that makes me sad

because I am a big A.J. Brown fan, but I'm a bigger Eagles fan, and this has to happen. All right. Back on the P.H.I. Eagles podcast. I like that. Biladelphia segment. Slick production. Yeah. Bernard is doing a great job. I like that. Phenomenal. Good stuff. That situation stinks. I'm exhausted by it.

And I get it because, and I, for an Eagles fans, perspective, of course. Like, I'm tired of thinking about it. You must be thinking or, like, trade them or don't trade them. But they got to go through the process. And you can't just take everything they say at face value. Oh, I tell you that that's not the truth. I think I'm putting one turkey on the chance of him being back. I think it's more than that. Eight? I actually think it's... 20? No, I think it's even higher than that. Yeah? 40? Yeah. 40. 45? Really? Yeah. I think it's pretty close to 50-50. I think truthfully, the ball is in AJ's court. Oh, I believe that. If AJ is, you know, has let the season settle. Wash over him. And, you know, the reports are that he and Jalen are in better terms

than they've been in recent years. I don't think it's, I don't think it's crazy. And I think the Eagles, their number one choice would be to have him back. I believe that, yeah. I just don't think that's AJ's choice. I don't know. I'm holding space for it as Egypt. Yeah, I've already come to terms with him being gone.

It's just like, what can we get for him? That's all I care about them. I do think it will be annoying if this also drags out to the summer. And it's like, yeah, do camp. Like, okay, you're still waiting. I don't know. Yeah. Why can't we have nice things for long periods of time in this town?

Jamie, I was thinking about you the other day. Oh. Actually, on yesterday's show. When we were having the discussion, I don't know if you caught this, about a hotel room situation. And my question is, how much is it out of me versus how much can I be annoyed at, you check into a hotel,

you know, you gotta have a quick turnaround, you're gonna meet a potential source, got a shower after getting off the plane, you're rushing through, you get in the shower and you realize that there are no towels on the towel rack. It's like a walk around the corner and get into the under the sink situation.

You gotta make a wet mess. Yes. Are you allowed to be annoyed at the towel rack? No, because I think that's more common. It's fully on me? Yeah, I think so. I think it's more common that the towel isn't there than it is there. But I was thinking about you because of the- I can just wipe off.

The interesting thing we learned about you at the holiday party. I'm a rogue guy. You go straight to the robe. Yeah, I haven't used a towel. You get out of the shower, into the robe, and then you stay in the robe. Yeah. That's fascinating to me. I make the girls breakfast in my robe.

I'm like Tony Soprano. I go get the morning newspaper in my robe. I'm making eggs in my robe. Well, that, I mean, I like that. That sounds like you're living in luxury. I feel like the idea of going from wet and then the robe soaps up the wetness and you're living in the wetness then. That to me is. Well, that is what is.

I'm a hairless mammal. So I feel like there's not as much wetness that stays with me. Okay. Because I kind of like wipe off. Okay. Sure. You're not just going straight. Yeah.

Yeah, so there's a, I'm more dry than your average bear getting into the robe. Okay. But to me, the robe is made out of towel material. Why would I, sure, dry off before getting into another body size towel? The robe is that you're basically enveloping yourself in a hug. See, I think that's, I think that's where the robe, uh, this misconception is. Yes, I think there's a complete misconception.

I think the robe was invented to be a body shaped towel that you just put on. and it dries the same way as a towel. It is a towel in human form. Yeah, but you're still dealing with some dampness. A little bit, but it dries the same way a towel does. I put it up on the rack. Why not go towel and then and then because I don't have to like to the dry. I don't have to like wipe down.

It's just you put it on and everything's dry. Lindsay, what do you make of this? I think robes are being used wrong. About robes? Yes. Yeah, I agree with Jamie that that's like how they're made. it makes sense, but like, I just am not going to use a robe. See, I think Hollywood bastardized robes in that.

Interesting. It's like, yeah, it's like cigarettes and bonbon and you're feeling sad and like you're sick and everybody just wears the robe. And I believe the robe was invented to just be put on after the shower. My mom is like a big like not after the shower. She just like puts on a robe at night. And like that's what she like. Yeah. I feel like some people just use it as like houseware.

Yeah. Whereas I think it was invented to be a towel. Okay. I mean, let me know in the chat. I'm probably going to come off as a weird one. The video, how do you feel about this robe situation? I just put it right on. Very curious.

I haven't used a towel in 15 years. That can't be. I mean, outside of like hotels and Airbnb and stuff. But usually they have a robe at the hotel. Would you use that? My wife is a big robe at the hotel person. But she towels off and then gets in the road. Yeah.

So we've had our debates about that. Okay. I typically don't go robe at the hotel because they're usually smaller. So I look ridiculous, like where it comes up. You're not B-Y-O-R. A story I once heard about Patrick Ewing in a hospital. You should tell that story in. Bovertide.

I mean, that thing wasn't made for him. No. No, no, not at all. Oh, yeah. I'm picturing some fruit. Yeah, I need to move. Things are hanging out. Yeah, I don't know.

I've always just, yeah, a towel. Okay. Who needs it? I mean, most people. Just throw a robe on. It's easy. Okay. I'm probably in the road for 45 minutes in the morning when I get the girls ready for school.

It does get a little tricky when I'm... Do you shower first? Is that... I'm a morning or is that? Oh, shower. Okay. I'm a staunch morning. Because when I used to get up at like 3.30 a.m.

I used to have the way to start a day. Yeah, so it's like my routine. Okay. If I could, if it wasn't for dry skin season, I would just shower twice a day before bed and in the morning. But try to keep it to once a day. I'm really sick of winter. The moisturizing is just out of control. Yeah, now it's getting to my lips.

I got to get some. Yeah, I cracked the lip the other day. Yeah. The knuckles have been better this winter than most winters, but still. I'm ready for spring. Yeah. This is outrageous. I'm glad you're thinking of me with the towels and the robes.

I've been thinking about that. I've been thinking about the robe thing. Yeah, that's stuck with me. Have I convinced you to give it a whirl? I don't know that I would ever go straight to the robe. Do you own a rope? I don't personally own a robe. We have, Rachel has a couple robes.

Now does she towel off and then go robe? Does she wear it as a house? She would never go straight to the robe. You should get her thoughts on that. Okay. Maybe. I mean, I find this peculiar, but I think most people find it. I'm happy.

It makes you happy. Yeah. I'm just saving a step. I'm working smarter, not harder. Yeah. And then you have to watch the robe, obviously. I would hope so. Yeah.

Do you have a rotation of robes, or is it just one? Okay. And how long has this one been in? This one's probably two to three years. Okay. Because when the belt loops go, yeah, you're cool. So what do you do? You never get caught with the robe in the wash?

I have. If you've only got one. I've had to skip a shower or two when it's been in the wash. You skip the shower. That's crazy. Rather than go towel, you will skip. A shower in time? No, I probably use my wife's tail.

But I definitely have skipped a shower here or there because of the robe. Okay. Do you have a towel warmer that you put the robe in? That's a good idea for your wife. That is true. G. But like, Do you have one?

No, no. But I've seen people have it. And it sounds like if you're going for like the comfort of the robe, you want it to be warm. Yeah. The Airbnb we stayed in in Vermont over Christmas did have the towel warmer, like, built-in rack with like the furnace under it. Okay. That was pretty nice.

It seems like the chat is very interested in this robe conversation. Am I getting any support? Is anybody with me? Some people I see there's robes for drying off after a shower and there are robes for Hugh Hefner type people. Yeah, that's more like smoking jacket. Yeah, sexy, ropey. Yeah, I'm not one of those guys.

I'm like a terry cloth, like micro fleece kind of guy. Would you ever consider the other kind? No, I don't think so. That's way too sex. Seduce the misses. Yeah, I don't think that's that. I don't think that's getting it done in our house. Okay.

Are you a slippers guy? I see some slipper talking. I have a pair of slippers. I am not, I'm not always going to the slippers. It's more of a, I find that my feet are cold. I'm going to wear them for about 20 minutes. And then they get too hot. And then they get too hot.

Yeah, I have slippers, but yeah. I, I have raw dog the feet as soon as I get home. Yeah. Like, no, I don't like walking around in the house and socks. No, it's dangerous. The stairs? Oh, you can't be carrying a baby. No.

No way. When the girls are running around dancing every night after dinner, I'm like, get those socks off. You're going to eat it. Yeah. So yeah. All right. Good conversation. What a show.

Not an orgy guy, huh, Jamie? No, I haven't been. No upside nine fans. Pine up and upside out. Come on. Get a life. This is so crazy. Thank you.

All right, everybody. That'll do it before this episode of the P.H.O. You think Fran and E.J. Rogue guys? I can see Fran being a rogue guy You know what? I was just thinking

about who's more likely to be a rough guy? I think Fran. I think E.J. Yeah? I think E.J. The guy that cuts a shrimp cocktail? Yes.

Yeah, that's a guy who wants some comfort. Wait, so you think the Venn diagram of robe and cutting shrimp cocktail with a knife and fork are close? Yes, I do.

Oh, man. I don't think they're not overlapping, but I feel like there's more overlap there. 50-50. Then shoveling the horse radish right in. A lot of conversation that you had all about sweaty

slipper feet. Yeah, it's a tough It's a tough one to get right. I haven't been. Yeah, if anybody's got an orgy going on and wants to throw out an invite over to the PHA. Let us know. Otherwise, stay tuned and join us tomorrow at 2 o'clock

when E.J. returns and we'll find out where he lands on robes. Thank you to Bill and Brenna. Thank you to E.J. and for joining us from Indianapolis. Thank you, Jamie, for stepping in. This would be a question I would ask some guys in Combine interview rooms. That's a good.

That's a good comment. Yeah, I really see where they're going to happen. That's how I used to do. I did a series of stories at the athletic after Nick Siriani said they were playing rock paper, scissors shoot with guys. So I would just challenge them. I did the airplane etiquette to judge their character, all that stuff. Yeah, it's a good way to find out how people.

I saw the seat recline airplane question was going viral again. the other day I don't know why it's such old deuce we've been talking I've been talking about this for a decade yeah if you recline get lost get lost yeah you you have no care for your fellow human sad sad sad really sad that'll do it for the PHA Y Eagles podcast thanks for joining us everybody we'll talk to tomorrow 2 o'clock check out the latest episode of Unblocked with Brandon Graham some interesting insight on Jeff Soutland Lane and Landon a funny Trent Cole story and more Find out how many bar fights

Brandon Graham has been in. Oh, I missed that part. Interesting. Otherwise, we'll talk to tomorrow at 2 o'clock. As always, we love you.