PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - Mock Draft Cheat Sheet: GM tendencies tell us where players like Tyler Warren will be drafted

Episode Date: April 8, 2025

Fran Duffy has been studying the tendencies of the league’s decision-makers for some time and he’s ready to put that work to use in projecting how the first round of the 2025 NFL Draft will play out. Where will players like Abdul Carter, Shedeur Sanders, Tetairoa McMillan, Tyler Warren, Tyler Booker, Will Campbell, Mason Graham, Will Johnson and Mike Green come off the board? The answer key is here. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello, everybody and welcome the PHLY Drafts show with Fran Duffy. It's a beautiful Tuesday. We are 16 days away, Fran. From the NFL draft, I know you've got a lot of work to do. You're going to have a seven-round mock draft to bang out. You've got a final big board. What are you going to do with all this time? I don't know, but 16 days, it feels like it's 16, but it feels like, yeah, but it feels like seven.

And like it feels like it's less time that it actually is. But I'm really excited for draft weekend to get here. I know we've kind of ironed out what our plans are from a coverage standpoint. So that'll be fun. No, I'm really excited. 13 days until Baby Wolf number three is due. I know. That's some stuff to put together.

Are you, is like bag packed? Like, are you like at that stage? We should be, but we are not yet bagpacked. I think it's becoming more important for us to make sure that that happens. Very exciting. All right, what we're going to do today, this is going to be fun. We're going to take, you know, we've spent a lot of time on the specific prospects. Now we're going to shift the focus on this episode to the teams.

And we want to talk about because nobody really knows the depths of your disease when it comes to studying the draft. And it goes beyond the players. It goes to the teams, the decision makers. And you have all of this research from the past several years about the tendencies of these teams. And we want to work our way through the. first round of the mock of the first round and do sort of a it's a semi mock draft but it's more about you know players who make sense for the tendencies for these teams yeah i think it is important to

to say before we get into it that everything that we talk about yes i'm going to talk about it like it's going to feel like it's a certainty right we're going to talk about you know Cleveland they love to take underclassmen from power five schools i always use that as the the prime example well there it doesn't mean it's 100 right and so you it's everything's a trend until it's not and so So it is important to kind of keep that in mind. A lot of these where it's, oh, you know, they do it more than any team. Well, maybe it's 60% of the time or 47% of the time. That still means you have to keep the other side of it into account.

So, but a lot that we can pull from a lot of these discussions. And draft is different than free agency where like in theory, everybody can pay, try to pay the most for the same player. So much of the draft is dependent on what happens before you. So the further we work our way down the first round, the more variables there are. And so, you know, it may not be. perfect, but I think this is a fun exercise. And if you are someone who is like trying to game out what's going to happen in 16 days,

I think this will be a very helpful exercise. Especially if you, uh, if you're maybe you're beginning to like the betting markets of, uh, or on the NFL draft or just become a bigger thing over the last couple of years. This could be the podcast for you. All right. I hope you're willing to cover any losses. I won't, but I'll send them your way. Zach, Zach will do it.

He wants so much money on Houston, uh, that he's going to be able to cover it for you guys. Okay. Let's start at number one. Tennessee, it's a slightly new regime, but it certainly seems like this is becoming a fate of complete that it will become Cam Ward number one, right? Yeah, you know, obviously they canceled their meetings with Travis Hunter, Justin Hunter, and with Shador Sanders. They canceled meeting with two Colorado Buffaloes last week.

Basically every mock draft has Cam Ward going number one. We had that film room, the live session here with diehards here in the studio, when the Giants signed Russell Wilson and my immediate reaction was, all right, like, they know, the Cam Ward's going number one. I think that that's the big thing you kind of learn at this point. Cam Ward, number one, I don't think there's too much to discuss that.

We got a lot of picks to work through so we can speed through that one. Let's go to number two at Cleveland. And you are not so sure. Right now, it seems like all the tea leaves are saying they're going to take Travis Hunter. You're not quite so sure. Yeah, I mean, really, look, it definitely looks like at this point it is not going to be Shador

Sanders that it's going to be either Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter. Which it should be. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. And I think at the end of the day, you know, you look at it and it's like, okay, these are the two best prospects in the draft regardless of position. I think when you look at Cleveland and their propensity to the type of prospect they typically take, both guys check a lot of boxes.

I just mentioned it at the very top. This is the case I always point to is Cleveland. When they've had high picks in drafts, it is true juniors, 21 years old, with few red flags, Typically from Power 5 schools, you look at Hunter, you look at Carter. Both guys are really clean, really young, really productive, really athletic. You're checking all the boxes with those players. Now, a lot of the media swing lately, like this week, has been pointing to. It sounds like it might be Travis Hunter.

Yeah. You know, and that's kind of what you're hearing. Two things. One, from what I understand, Cleveland likes to play games with the media. They like the smokescreen game. Oh. And he, like, you know, Andrew Barry, like, in july. like he like has fun with it.

Okay. The next part of it and I go, this goes and again, well, let's think about this because if you've heard that, maybe it means that that is a game that he is playing and he actually doesn't enjoy the games, but it's a next level thing where he wants people to think that he enjoys the games,

but he actually doesn't enjoy the game. We're going into Princess Bride territory now. Yes. I think when you're looking at it, that, you know, to me, this is why I try and take in as many of the,

you're sniffing this one out. I like it. Well, look, the head coach and GM press conference, over the, and it's more of the GM press conferences. I try and watch as many of those as possible over the course of the year. Andrew Barry consistently preaches, you know, it's defensive, offensive line and defensive

line. You know, and then he was asked about it this year at the Combine, and it was like, you know, in regards to the Eagles. And he said, you know, the Eagles just won the Super Bowl, the pass rush. And he said, I'm pretty clear in our philosophy. He said this last year after the draft because they took two defensive or two linemen when many of them projected them to take a corner or a pass catcher. He echoed that again this year.

I'm pretty solid with my philosophy. It's going to be offensive line and defensive line. I kind of think it's going to be Abdul Carter. Interesting. Yeah. I don't think I'm not going to be shocked if it's Travis Hunter, but I kind of think that it might be Abdul Carter. I like that.

Yeah. That's good. That's a good sniff. We'll see. Let's pencil and Abdul Carter here. Well, pencil and Abdul Carter there, number two. Now, before we get to between, you know,

if Travis Hunter's on the board, presumably it would be Travis Hunter to the Giants. But I want to ask you about something you tweeted, or actually maybe Blue Sky, died the other day. And that is this, this, it is taken as gospel

that if you are a front office in trouble, well, if you draft a young quarterback, that's going to buy you some time. Right. Because, you know, you want, you need to,

you're going to get a couple of years. Recent history does not bear that out. It's actually the opposite, right? No, honestly, it's been for a while that I have felt this way

because honestly, it's one of these like accepted bits of NFL wisdom that is actually not true at all. Yeah. When I posted, a lot of people were confused by like, my sentiment there was like, oh, like, you're not showing every quarterback.

I know I'm not showing every quarterback. Yeah, obviously not every quarterback, you know, doesn't work out at the top of the draft. If you take a quarterback and it works, that typically goes well. But this was just looking at top quarterbacks that got drafted and just the top three, not even like top five, top 10, just the top three picks where you saw head coaches, offensive coordinators or GMs get fired after year one. Year one. Caleb Williams, Drake May, Bryce Young, Trevor Lawrence, Baker Mayfield, Sam, Arnold, Ms. Trubisky, Jared Goff, James, Winston, Marcus Marriota, Blake Bortles. That's the last decade.

Like, you know, and that's not every single quarterback that went in the top three. That's a pretty good sample. And just an example of how it's not just, oh, yeah, like, we have a rookie quarterback. That's going to buy us three more years. That, that logic does not apply. It actually, in, if you think about it, it makes sense because when you get a young quarterback, you are not setting up to be patient. You are creating urgency because you're thinking, okay, now we've got a one,

this guy, like the developmental curve for this guy is not going to last forever. And if he's not good enough in year one, well, we got to find somebody who can get him better. And then two, you know, you think about the, you want to make the most of the quarterback on a rookie contract. All of a sudden, you create that urgency. And so, yeah, like, I think if the Giants draft Shador Sanders and he has a bad rookie year, like all those guys are gone for sure. No matter what. Exactly. And even honestly, like, even if he's solid and they win six games, yeah, the price.

probably all gone too. Like they might go, they win seven games and probably still be gone. Like it's, that is, it is far from a sure thing. And now also you look at that list, you're like, it's not a lot of like good quarterbacks or at least guys that had early success. And you say, yeah, well, you know, they had a bunch of change after year one. And there's something to be said for that too. Then they don't have that continuity to help them get the ball rolling there early in their career. All right. So we stick to Joe Shane. And what is the, you know, his track record of embarrassing decisions? What does that tell you about what he might do at number three. Yeah, obviously, you know, at this point, it's, are they going to go Shador Sanders,

or is it going to be the whoever's left between Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter? I do think after the signings of James Winston and Russell Wilson, that this is going to be the non-quarterback here in the spot, you know, I don't think that this is, this regime personally is, I know that Zach brought this up on the, on the Eagle show yesterday. Yeah. I don't think that this, this team is in a position, like if you are Joe Shane and Brian Dayball to trade down and pass on one of these guys, that's an elite talent. I do think that they're in a smile right yet. We need somebody that's going to be this blue chip player. This class doesn't have a lot of blue chip players. If this was a new regime, then I would say, yeah, like they're going to move back. I think that there's more urgency

for Daible and Shane to say, we got to get the blue chip guy into the building. Is there when we get on beyond the top three? This is less team specific. But I'm thinking about, you know, because the Giants probably won't move down, but they could potentially. Is there a prospect you think after the top three guys who would be the one? and to get a team to be aggressive and jump up a little bit? You know, look, you would be, if you're trying to jump up to three, that means you're obviously, you're trying to get ahead of New England, Jacksonville.

If you're jumping up to three, it's because you're trying to get Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter. Right. I mean, you're trying to get one of those two players, you know, keep him from falling to New England. Who are the teams that could do that? I mean, you guys covered a couple of those, you know, San Francisco. Chicago is the one team in the top that has real,

equity because there's most of the draft picks this year in the first round everybody has their own pick yep and then in the second round there are only three teams in either direction three have an extra pick three don't have a pick in the second round chicago from that bryce young move they have two high second round picks so that is the one where like i don't think they want to blow their wad uh necessarily with this with this young team on just going all the way up for somebody but i don't know maybe maybe abdul carter if he's there at three is like man this is a guy who could change the shape of our team Yeah, I mean, we've seen New Orleans be aggressive with tradeups. They're at nine.

I've seen in mock drafts, Carolina, potentially doing a slight move up to get an Abdul Carter. Those would be a couple other teams. But again, if it's not Carter or Hunter, you don't think you don't think we don't see that. So, yeah, I mean, it might be a situation where you might see a small one of Las Vegas move from six to four to get ahead of Jacksonville at five. Like if they love Mason Graham and Tom Brady wants to get his Michigan man in the building. All right, we're going to jump them. So, you know, that kind of thing. But outside of that, I don't envision.

one now. Okay, so let's pencil and Travis Hunter to the Giants at three. And now we get to New England, who's in a tough spot because you do think, you know, it's a two-player draft at the top outside of the quarterbacks, which they don't need. And so they get left out here. What do you think what did their, I mean, it's not a long track record, but what are you, from what you know about them, what do you think they're thinking? Yeah, looking at the mock drafts right now. I mean, the most popular names, it's Will Campbell, obviously hunters off the board, Armand Membu, and then whose left would be Mason Graham. So you're talking to talking to, talking to, and Will Campbell, Armand Membu, Mason Graham.

Most of the key mocks over the last couple of weeks have leaned more towards Membu, you know, the tackle out of Missouri. Still some love for Will Campbell in that spot. I think when you're looking at the Patriots, you're looking at, number one, it's a relatively new regime. You're bringing in Mike Vrable to be the head coach. It sounds like he's got the most juice in the building from an organizational standpoint. Brought in a personnel guy.

Elliot Wolf was named like the de facto GM a year ago right after the draft. And so, you know, who carries the biggest stick in that building? I think that that's something certainly interesting to watch. Mike Vrable, just a couple years ago at Tennessee, they took Peter Skoronsky in the top 15, similar kind of body type to Will Campbell, promptly slid him inside the left guard. But he has shown that he's willing to do that. The Drake May pick was a mystery last year up until draft day. Like, until they were on the clock, no one knew for sure that it was going to be Drake May.

There was a lot of buzz that they could take J.J. McCarthy. They could trade down. Are they going to take one of these offers? It's important to remember the GM, Elliot Wolf, he comes from Green Bay. It's a traits-based operation there, you know, they might not be willing to take a gamble on a guy like a Will Campbell. So it's very interesting to see. This is obviously a huge pivot point in the top 10.

Where New England decides to go is going to dictate how other selections here are going to go. 30 visits were pretty predictive for them last year. So they have bought in Will Campbell for a visit. So that's why right now, as we sit here on April. eighth, I kind of lean more towards it being Will Campbell over Membo, but I don't think I feel like super great about that as we are two weeks out.

I do find the problem solving of what do you do after you think you have a young quarterback. How do you build up the roster? Those questions very interesting. So for New England, for Chicago, who we will get to. And I just, I do feel like at four

you got to help your guy, right? And now there's probably not a pass catcher who was worth it here. Maybe you move down and and take a Tyler Warren or a Ted McMillan. But I just think that given the state of their offensive line last year, they got to just take an offensive lineman, right? I think so. And that's why when you look at, especially when you do look at Campbell,

you feel good about that. That picture's landing in the fairway because even if he does fail at tackle, I feel really good about his ability to last that guard and be an elite guard. So, you know, I think that that might be a way just to no matter what, like protect Drake May at all costs. And you might do that with Campbell over member. All right. Let's move on to Jacksonville at number.

number five. I mean, we're shooting darts here, but we have a guy coming in from the Rams and coming in from the Bucks. But I think this is like you're thinking Rams DNA basically. I think so, right? Yeah, I think when you're looking at, you know, Jacksonville, they bring in their new GM, James Gladstone, who was with the Rams. Honestly, you don't know much about what his role was. We're going to lean on our friend Jordan Rodriguez, who did some excellent reporting over the last couple of years with the Rams and their draft process was embedded in that draft room. I believe each of the last two drafts and talked about what Gladstone's role was in the lead-up to the draft where he basically had like almost like a clandestine like like boots on the ground like late in the

process would go out and visit with guys and basically give like thumbs up thumbs down to less need in the Rams front office on is this guy worthy of bringing into our building so it's very interesting from that standpoint but again very little known about what his preferences are where he might lean and then when you have Liam Cohen a new head coach not only is he a first time head coach, but a lot of his time has been spent at the college level as a coordinator, right? So it's just, we don't know a ton about what they're looking for, exactly what's a fit. A lot of people have gone towards Mason Graham. He is the runaway favorite in most mock drafts.

And I think that that does make sense. I would say organizationally, you know, knowing Gladstone coming from the Rams, they would love this to be an offensive pick. I do think that they want this, they want to build up the offense. That's the fastest way to a championship. I think organizationally that's where they want to go. I like the idea of, like, you know, when a baseball team fires a players manager, they swing the other way, you get a hard ass or vice versa.

You know, you got to get a players manager after you fire, you know, Tony LaRusa type. I like the idea that for the Jaguars, after having Trent Balkey run the draft, they're going to run to take the guy with the shortest arms possible. I think that that's actually really, I didn't even thought about that. But I honestly, the thing that's interesting about this is a person that, that Balky brought in, I think it's going to be pivotal in this selection. So he hired last year a former Eagles executive, Tom Gamble,

who was the director of player personnel at the University of Michigan under Harbaugh for the previous three seasons. Now, so they bring in Gamble. Gamble's been there and he's still there from what I understand and still a part of this pre-draft process. Well, who knows Mason Graham better than a guy that helped help recruit him, bring him into the building, was in the building there with him for a couple years. Also, I kind of like the idea of they just,

Wadino guy in L.A. Gladstone was there when they drafted Braden Fisk, who a similar kind of body types and their kind of impact level as Mason Graham. So I do think that the consensus might be right here and it might be a Mason Graham. I think this is one where they would be willing to move down as well. Oh, I think I would love to. A couple spots if possible. Yeah.

Okay, we'll give a Mason Graham. We'll go on to number six. The Las Vegas Raiders, a team that is just trying to shotgun themselves into respectability. Right. Right. With Pete Carroll and John Spitech taking over another new regime. But some DNA to follow from the places both of them have been.

Everybody's sort of thinking, and you have said it on the show, I believe this week that like you're already penciling in, Ashton Gentie, why? Just because of Pete Carroll's comments when he first got hired to your point, like we are going, I think I got the, yeah, this is the direct quote. This is from Pete Carroll when he got hired.

It took us a few years to get to the very top at the last few programs I've been with. We're starting right now going forward immediately. We don't have some timeline for five to six years down the road. That's not what we're thinking. We're going to build. this thing as quickly as we can. So I hear that and like even hearing like the urgency in his voice, understanding that he's hired as the oldest coach in NFL history. I don't think that

this is going to be some long term vision. I think that they do want to kind of shot come themselves to respectability like you said at the top there. So I take that. Here's the only thing. He's a huge like he loves smoke screens. You're like especially like the last few years at at Seattle. It was like traveling roads. Oh, he loves it. He does that. He does that. But And then also like traveling road shows going to the pro days. Like he's taking selfies with, you know, with Justin Fields. And we're going here. We're doing all this stuff.

And everyone thinks, is it going to be that quarterback or this receiver? What is the point of that? I think these guys just like it. It's just like, you know what? This is a whole big circus anyway. Like I might as well have fun with it. So part of me, Jalen Walker, uh, has been mocked to them twice in the last week. Bruce Feldman, uh, and, uh, and Lance Dirline, two guys that are very well plugged in,

uh, for the athletic. and then for NFL.com. Both mocked them, Jalen Walker. Jalen Walker has the makeup and like the competitiveness, like all the off-field stuff that Pete Carroll stars for. That's like a sneaky, like I'm keeping it on the back of my mind. I still think I'm leaning genty. But man, it's interesting.

Look, John Spitech, who's the general manager, he comes from Tampa Bank. They were not afraid of taking like analytical outliers when he was there with the bucks. You're talking, obviously they trapped a kicker in round one. and they traded up to take a kicker in round two. They took a 27-year-old run-stuffing nose tackle early in day three. They took a linebacker at five overall. I don't think that he's going to scoff at taking an outstanding running back in the top ten.

And Pete Carroll, he has shown the propensity to take running backs high. So I think I feel good about this being Ashton Genty, but that Jalen Walker, that's an interesting one that's kind of stuck in the back of my mind. I have one to throw out there. Okay. Why wouldn't they take Arm on Memboo? Yeah, I mean, that's Again, you just put them at right tackle right away. Yeah, like I would agree that.

Me personally, I would not take Ashton Genti. Well, of course not. But I think that, you know, I think that that's kind of where their heads are. Okay. I mean, yeah, you just, I mean, listen. Genty's awesome. But if you take Mambu, there's going to be a running back, a good running back there available at the top of the second round.

And they have, by the way, like this is a, this is an organization that has links to a lot of the top running backs, you know, in this class. So Chip Kelly, obviously coached, both Ohio State guys. I always forget the chip. Yeah, I know. So stupid.

They also have a coach on staff who was at North Carolina last year with Armary in Hampton. They've done a ton of work on Caleb Johnson. So they've done a lot of work on these backs and they know some of them really well. So that's why like that. I'm leaving the door open to that being a smokescreen. This is very fun. There is no way we're going to be done in an hour. No.

By the way, you saw the video of Johns Pitech, the interview he did with, I think it was with Serious XM. Have you seen that? I don't think it was late last week, like after owner's meetings. He was doing an interview with Sirius, and he was like, yeah, my son basically said,

like, we have to take Ashton Gent, it was very open. It was like, yeah, my son said, we have to take Ashton Genti or he's leaving the family, and he's going somewhere, we have to take Ashton Genti. Like, I thought that was very interesting. I'm like, man, like, you're either saying, you're not afraid. It is kind of cool when it's your first draft.

Yeah, I'm sure. Because then you can really play some games. Yeah, I enjoy that. Okay, all right. Let's get to the Jets at number seven. No shot of getting this done in an hour. I mean, we've done six picks in 20 minutes. All right, let's get to the Jets at number seven.

Another new group. I know, yep. What do we make of it? All right, so the names to keep in mind here that most often mocked, Tyler Warren, tied up from Penn State, Mason Graham, Armand Membu, Will Campbell. Those are the four names to keep in mind here most often with the New York Jets. Warren has picked up a lot of steam. Our friend, Tony Pauline, who is probably, obviously, obviously, follows the Jets very closely.

He has said everything I've heard points to the Jets being infatuated with Warren. There's been a lot of buzz with others that have been connected to the Jets in the past as well. That point to Tyler Warren. I kind of think that that is the pick as we sit here today. Now, that said, I don't know if I believe it. Well, I'll tell you why I'm in a sec, but go ahead. Okay. Well, look, what I'm looking at Darren Mugi, who's the new general manager, he comes from Denver,

grew up in that system, was there for years and years. Age matters. They've taken a lot of young guys over the course of his career when he was at Denver, small sample sizes. They don't scare them as well. this is a guy that only has one real year of production. I look at Tyler Warren and what he represents, like the toughness, the tempo setter, culture setter type of pick.

I think that represents what Aaron Glenn is looking to add there. You know, this is a team that was in on Brock Bowers a year ago, was very close to selecting him with their pick. Obviously, they went with Olu Faschino. It's important to remember even though like Joe Douglas gets fired, it's not like they fired everybody else on that staff, right? There's a lot of other guys that have been there evaluating this team, know what their needs are.

And you say, all right, like, we don't have a number two pass catcher. aside from, you know, aside from Garrett Wilson, I think that this could be Warren. What I'm, I am moved a little bit because you think Warren has that sort of culture setting. Yeah. Toughness. There are,

there are organizations that are, you know, GM focused, organizations that are head coach focused. To me, this is like Aaron Glenn has the juice in that building. They're going to, they're going to try to set the culture that he wants. His first draft pick. So to me,

I'm thinking defense, even though, even though maybe that, that is not the best thing for their roster. But if you think that Tyler Warren has that sort of toughness that Glenn would covet, and maybe it because he's a movable chess piece, it's the kind of guy that would give the defensive coordinator fits

that's possible. I could be tucked into it. But I don't know, is there like a defensive play, like is a Mikel Williams, the kind of player who would be, who Aaron Glenn would be like, you know, I can do a lot of things with this guy. He plays with the toughness.

We're going to stop the run right away and then go from there. Yeah, I mean, I think, again, looking at like age and small sample sizes, Michael Williams would make some sense there. I think when you're looking at, could this be like a Shamar Stewart type of situation? Is that a ceiling there? You're not sitting.

You're not setting your culture with the guy who had one and they have sex. I know. Right. In terms of like guys that have, that have traits and have that, you know, especially looking at histories of that defense. Typically it's like bigger,

sturdy, or longer edge rushers. What about Jalen Walker? I think Walker, certainly would fit. I think the body type is a little different, but I think like culturally, like that's the type of flare they would love to add. Yes. Okay. That's good. That's a good one. All right. Let's go to eight, the Carolina Panthers. And this is where you have Jalen Walker, maybe earmarked a little bit. Why is that the case? I mean, far away, the most common pick for them at eight overall. I think Michael Williams is the other one that comes in as at second, but it's

far and away. Jalen Walker. Michael Williams has been mocked there twice in the last week from the key mocks that I've been tracking. But outside of that, it's been those two guys. Joseph Persson, who does a great job covering Carolina down for the athletic down there in Charlotte. He brought up the idea that it could be an Arbonnebu, that the Panthers could consider one of the top tackles at eight overall. But it does feel like that this is going to be a defense draft for for Carolina. It's not a new regime, obviously, but you have to remember that they didn't have a first round pick going into the draft last year. So we don't have a great sample in terms of what they typically look for. I would say that they really harp on versatility.

you know, so I would give a leg up, I think, to Jalen Walker. Egerro, the defensive coordinator comes from the Vigfangio school. Could you see a kind of Zach Bond usage there for Jalen Walker? I think you could. I do think age matters for this front office as well. They took Xavier League it with their first pick. It was a 23-year-old late bloomer last year, but then they took four straight 21-year-olds in that first draft.

And so that stood out to me. I went up and I asked Dan Morgan about that at the Combine. And he kind of doubled down on that and was like, yeah, this is, this is, that is important to us. And to get those young guys in. So I think that that's something. You're waiting like 11 months to ask that question. On my flight out to Indy, it was like, all right, like, what's one question I could ask? Just going through all these notes, like one question I could ask each GM off that.

So I was able to get a few with them in. But yeah. What a guy. I do think that this is an interesting one to keep an eye on for a potential trade back. Just because they, you know, I think that's. Yes. So they lost their second round pick in the. the Bryce Young deal, but then they got one back.

That's a later second round pick. So they're the kind of team that would want to pick up some equity. Yeah, and Morgan coming from Seattle, you know, John Schneider, that's kind of the school that he comes from is we want to trade back, collect assets. So I definitely think that they could. But if they stick and pick, I do think it's one of the Georgia guys. All consensus kind of points towards Walker, but I'm leaving the door open from Mikel Williams. Okay.

How about at nine, New Orleans? GM's been there for a while, forever and will be there forever. but Kellyn Moore gets to have his first draft as head coach. What do you think they're focused on? Yeah, people are all over the board with the Saints right now. Will Johnson is gaining a lot of steam, the corner from Michigan. He's got seven overall picks in mock drafts three in the last couple of weeks. But Michael Williams, Shamar Stewart, Tyler Warren, Will Campbell,

all getting a lot of steam with this team. So teams are analysts are all over the board with this franchise, which typically when you look at years past, like everyone kind of knew. like, all right, in 2024, basically everyone knew they were going to take a tackle. They took Fulaga. 2023, everyone had them taking a defensive tackle. They took Brian Brazzi. 2022, their most popular draft choices when I would do this exercise for Chris Oliva and

Trevor Penning, that's who they end up with. Right. So they have been very predictable from that standpoint. The fact that it is this ambiguous, I think it's a little bit telling. We'll see if the, if the Cs kind of change a little bit here in the next couple weeks. But I do think that this is a defensive pick. I know that there's been some thought that maybe this is the sneaky shit or Sandor's team. And it could be, you know, it certainly could be, leaving the door open there.

But I think it is a defensive pick. And I think that at the end of the day, it's a new coach, but not a new front office, like you mentioned, Mickey Loomis, the general manager. But Jeff Ireland is the guy who's really kind of like the lead, like in terms of the draft, former GM from Miami has been with New Orleans over the last few years. The on-field profile, versatile, tracy, scheme fit at priority positions. Early in the draft, that's what they go for, which makes that, you're keeping it on the fairway there. off the field profile, young, smart, tough, competitive captains. Again, you're talking generalities here, but that's kind of the profile that you're looking for.

Round one, their picks over the last few years under Jeff Ireland, all past game driven, QB, tackle, D-line, wide receiver, corner. So maybe eliminates Tyler Warren potentially. High RAS score, like high athletic physical profile. So Tyler Warren is essentially like Superman Tassim Hill. Yes, right? Right, yeah, I think that's right. It's like, oh, you know what?

Tate some Hill, we'll just slide them out, and we're getting 10 years younger at that position, 15 years younger at that position. But yeah, high RAS scores early. That might eliminate Will Johnson. Obviously, we don't have a full athletic profile there on the corner from Michigan. What was interesting about it is that while they draft

a lot of traitsy guys, it's not a lot of projects. It's been a lot of guys where it's like, okay, like Chris Olave were tested really well, but he's a really refined player. So it's a very kind of a refined skill set there. I'm leaning at Will Johnson. I think Will Johnson, the corner from Michigan, might be the pick there.

What would you think about the pairing of Shador Sanders and potential hypothetical Kellynne Moore offense? Yeah, I think that makes sense. I think when you look at Kellyn Moore and everything is like quick game focus and we're going to get the ball out fast. Like I think that fits Shador's game, you know, the best case version of Shador Sanders.

I think that would make some sense. And I think the dots have been connected of like Kellyn Moore and from the Cowboys family with Dion Like maybe their, you know, Dion wouldn't be quite so outspoken against him. I don't know. Possible. Yeah, I could say it's the, a lot of the early reporting around New Orleans. This is from like other people in the media was that it was not going to be a quarterback.

And then the Shador Sanders stuff started to creep in over the last few weeks. So I don't know if that's smoke or if the early stuff was smoke. Colorado jersey is a very similar color scheme to the Saints jersey. He's got to think about that. Yeah. We'll see. Okay. It makes it an easier comparison, one to one, you know?

Yes. All right. I am fascinated by what the bears are going to do. Yep. How do they build around the young quarterback? What do you think we? Now, Ryan Poles has been gathering, gathering, gathering, gathering assets, right? It seems like it's time to push in a little bit, but I don't know.

What do you think? We talked about this in the past. I still think you need like one more year, at least of continuing to build. Most mock drafts of the key mock draft. When I say mock drafts, I mean like, you know, you're talking like your, your, your, your notable analysts here. Most mock drafts. Fired at Walter Football.

Yes. I'm not afraid of that. Yeah, shots fired at Walter Football. Line of scrimmage. O-line, D-line, for the most part. Obviously, we've got plenty of Ashton Gentile love out there as well. Last couple of weeks since Free Agency, like they've been all over the board in these mock drafts.

They have filled a lot of holes. That's opened up more room for an Ashton Genti if he were available there for them in mock drafts. Here's what I would say about Ryan Poles and his background. traits-based scouting, big, long, and fast. That's something they consistently harp on after they make selections. They have not taken one bad athlete or slow player in three years under Ryan Poles. Like not just first round, like, I'm talking over the course of the entire draft.

They don't take guys who don't run well. They don't take guys who are bad athletes. So, and they're fine with small samples. They talk often about how they'll grade the flashes on a player. Position value. Now, this is his opening presser from Ryan Poles. This is interesting with the Ashton Genti conversation. I found this one as I was going through the notes preparing for this episode.

This is from his opening presser. Have to prioritize certain positions because of supply and demand and place them on the board where you can get them. That's what he said when he was first, when he was first hired. Yeah, but wasn't his first ever pick in the third round, Velaus Jones? I don't think that was the first pick, but I mean, yeah, Vilas Jones, but it was a wide receiver with high upside. I was old, but it was a wide receiver. He was a return specialist. Well, I mean, if you were dreaming, like that was, I mean, I didn't like Villas Jones,

But when you hear like, this is what the reasoning was. Like I get, I understand what the reasoning is. Now, the other big thing there, outside of position value is no red flag player. So in three drafts have not taken one publicly known red medical flag or red character flag. Now, Armand Membue, I think makes a lot of sense here. I also think this is one where the balance of power

has swung from polls to Ben Johnson. Like, I think they're going to draft who Ben Johnson wants them to draft. I think that polls, has kind of operated that way regardless. Okay. I think that he is a general manager who is very willing and open to being able to work with the head coach in that way. And I think that's good for longevity for the general manager.

Yes, I agree. Again, you can point the finger. It works both ways. Yeah, absolutely. So Armand Membou, I think makes a lot of sense. I think the pass rushers, Michael, Michael Williams from Georgia and Shamar Stewart from Texas A&M, I think both of them makes sense here,

highlighting some of these notes that we talked about. Dennis Allen is the new defensive quarter. What I love about a Dennis Allen defense is that it is very easy to like yep that's a Dennis Allen defense event That's a Dennis Allen corner. That's a Dennis Allen middle linebacker Just because I feel that way just because I've watched the Saints for a lot of years And so when I look at Mike how they were the guys to me it's like longer sturdier Powerful defensive Mark is Davenport Davenport they'd have drafted Peyton Turner obviously Cam Jordan A lot of those guys you know had that length that ability to push the pocket

I think those guys would make some sense and what about if you were thinking about if you were thinking about a Ben Johnson offensive type? I think that then you're looking at kind of a, almost like a Jeff Stalwin type of that. Membu, I think it would make a lot of sense. You're talking about the guys that are available there. I think Will Campbell would make some sense as well, just depending on how they feel about the arm length. That could be, who knows, it could be an eliminating factor for them or it might not be.

Okay. Let's talk San Francisco. Yep. And San Francisco is interesting to me because I think that they are the kind of team that is thinking about. this opportunity like the Eagles did with the Jalen Carter pick, right? Like they don't expect that they're ever going to be in this

window of contention and have this high of a draft pick. Yep. That's why like I think if if Abdul Carter was, if the Giants were able to were willing to trade down from three and the Niners could put a package together. I think they would do something like that to somebody who can really move the needle for a team that they think is in still a Super Bowl window. Yep. But if they stick at 11, is there a player who you think gives them that kind of juice?

Probably not like that kind of that that kind of juice. But I mean, but I think they would also be like they could be a luxury team. It could. You might think it's a little bit like the McCaffrey trade. Like, you know, if they love Tyler Warren,

which we have talked about, maybe this is the guy you pair with George Kittle and he eventually replaces him, but it gives the offense and Kyle Shannon a different dynamic on offense. But I don't know, who else do you have here? I wanted to look real quickly for trades with them.

They've actually, they've traded up. So John Lynch is at eight first round picks. He has traded up three times. I traded obviously for Tray Lance. That was the big trade up. They traded up for Iyuk and they traded up for Ruben Foster at the end of round one in their first draft. And then on day two, they've traded up five times as well on 18 picks.

So this is a team that has been willing to make those trades up if the opportunity presents itself. The names most often mocked to them. Armand Membue, I think would make a lot of sense. Kelvin Banks, Jr., the left tackle from Texas, Will Johnson, the corner from San Francisco. From Michigan, Jadee Barron, the corner from Texas. This is the highest you see him in mocks. and then Mikel Williams, the pass rusher from Georgia. So lately, Jada Baron has gotten a lot of love.

He's been mocked there a handful of times. Last way, I figured if it was on this show or on the Eagle Show when we were talking through Baron. Impossible to remember. Yeah, I forget. Who could tell in today's in today's age. I made the comparison to Ronde Barber. So Bruce Feldman did his mock draft last week.

And Bruce Feldman does this mock draft every year where it's all like quotes and nuggets from coaches and from scouts and college level and pro. Like it's got great just like little nuggets. And in that mock draft, he said like John Lynch played in Tampa Bay with Ronde Barber. And he made Jada Barron the pick. And I was like, oh, man, that's outstanding.

Because it was literally the day before. To Bruce. Yeah, it was outstanding. So now, San Francisco, just a couple quick nuggets, fairly unpredictable team early on in the draft. A couple years ago or a couple years now that they didn't have a first round pick because of the Trey Lanch trade.

But last year they went completely off the board late in the round with Ricky Pearsall. Athletic profile does not matter early on for John Lynch. Positional value does not matter early on for this team. I would say that overall size also not really a big thing. The big thing, proven commodities, older players, long resumes, tough guys, versatile scheme fits on either side. I think that's kind of the profile that they typically look for.

Okay. Jada Baron, I think makes a lot of sense. Going off of that last. Not to your board, but not for me, but for them, yes. Okay, Dallas. This is a team. We do have a nice long track record on the way that they do things. You have seen them mentioned as an Ashton Gentie team, even Omerian Hampton.

Yeah. Could they finally go running back? Could they go wide receiver? You know, do they want to fortify the offensive line? What do you think for Dallas? Yeah, I mean, Tetero McMillan has been the most often mocked player to them at 12 overall. And lately he's gained a lot of steam there, even though a lot of mocks have him falling. if he goes high, it's 12 to Dallas.

So stylistically, it makes sense as a pairing with CD Lamb, right? Because he's a big guy who can win on the outside. I can see that. I can definitely say it. Overall, this has been a team that has been pretty predictable in the draft. Typically, the teams of the positions

and players that get mocked to them, you're in the ballpark. The only time they really threw a curveball was when they selected Mazzie Smith a couple years ago out of Michigan. My friend, Jeff Kavanaugh, down at DLLS, when he came on.

my previous podcast a few years ago, he brought up the nugget to me that they love to be first in on a position. So they like to be able to start the run. So when you look at wide receiver, when you look at TMAC, this would be a spot that would make sense. They're not big into like athletic profiles, like athleticism and speed don't matter with their first round picks.

Neatious. Positional value, yeah, one of the few teams where they, and again, it's all a small sample. But one thing that shows up every single first round pick, All of them known for like toughness and physicality and violent. Like that's like one big thing. Like that you all that's a hallmark of all of their high picks. They also just trend bigger.

Like guys that are on the larger side of the size spectrum. I kind of feel like it might be T-Mack. I feel like T-Mick-Mick-M-M-M-Mitt-Millet might be the pick. Tim McImmett. Yeah, right. Tim McMach-off the board. All right. Let's go to Miami.

13, 40 minutes in. Go a little quicker. But yeah, we'll go honestly not that much quicker. Keep me honest, sir. What do you think about Miami? Will Johnson, Malachi Stark, Tyler Booker. Most often, this team, Johnson is one that's been spiking off

in the corner from Michigan. That's why there's been a lot of talk about him falling. I just feel like there's been a lot of buzz for New Orleans at nine. We're here talking about Miami here. A couple other teams we've already talked about. Only one out of nine first rounders under general manager, Chris Greer, where as a senior. All the rest were underclassmen.

So I do think that age matters here. I think we're looking for an underclassman more often than not. high value positions. So we're talking to the quarterback pass rush or tackle. That does probably eliminate the safety spot. Potentially, if you're looking at Tyler Booker, that would eliminate that. No athlete, there are no bad athletes, no slow guys. They have not drafted one player high in the draft with a low athleticism or speed score. So I think that that probably does eliminate a Tyler Booker. Mike McDaniel talk about this in Indy. And it's honestly, it's something that has stood out to me since he got hired there. A lot of their early picks were guys that were that

had upside, but we're a little bit like raw, unrefined, like not finished product type of players. And so when I look at it, I kind of think that Kelvin Banks Jr., the left tackle from Texas, you make some sense. Kenneth Grant, the defensive tackle from Michigan, I think makes some sense.

Josh Simmons, I think, makes some sense. They've been very open to medical red flags. Obviously, it's up to a high. They're from Jalen Phillips out of UCLA. He had major medical concern. So it would be a team I don't think would be scared away. Toronto Armstrong's just retired. Maybe, yeah, maybe that's a good.

Josh Simmons fit. I think that's the, I think this is the ceiling for Josh Simmons in this draft. I think Will Johnson, I think would make a lot of sense. Nick Emannwari, I think this is probably the ceiling for him and Warrie. I remember Anthony Weaver, the defensive coordinator from, you know, from the dolphins. He comes from Baltimore where they had Kyle Hamilton and the impact he made in that defense. So I think that all these guys check a lot of these boxes that I highlighted. Okay, let's go to Indianapolis where this is a guy who does have type.

Yes. Chris Ballard has been doing this for a while. What is his type? trait-based drafting through and through. Height weight speed, size, athleticism, speak, all of the matter, all high RAS scores. If the guys are a freak athlete, Chris Ballard wants something in Indianapolis.

Now, production does not make making guys with just one year or very little production over the course of their careers at a higher rate than basically anybody. They bucked that trend last year when they took Layatu Latu out of UCLA, a very productive pass rusher when he was healthy. But overall, guys that are very,

very, very tracy, mostly priority positions early. That was an early knock on Chris Ballard. Which is like, oh, they're taking guys that, you know, at low impact positions. That has changed in the city drafts for need. Most, it's 28 out of the 45 mock drafts that I've charted, have them going with tight end. And honestly, actually, yeah, it's 28 out of 45.

Most of them have them going that way. Feels like Colston Lovellons feeling for Colston. Okay. And they would love to have Tyler Warren if you fell, you think. If you were, if, and honestly, like they could also jump up. They were very aggressive trying to move up last year to get Bowers. And if not, you think maybe Eamon Worry, given this, the athletic profile, I think that Eamon Wari is the one that if it's not a tight end,

if it's not either Warren or Lovlin, even Warrie makes a lot of sense. All right. John Campbell will be the other one actually, too, by the way. I want to throw that in because they do have a whole line. Yeah, because they lost E.J. Speed. They don't really have a proven answer there. I think that could make some sense. Okay.

Atlanta, who had the big shock of the first round last year, nobody saw Michael Pennix Jr. coming. What did that tell you? Well, also, I mean, the year before, Bjan Robinson, there was no real concrete reporting that Bijon was going to end up there when they were something that high in the top 10. So, you know, I don't think, this is a team. I know talking with, I don't want to speak for you,

but with my friend Charles McDonald's Yahoo. I don't know how well you know Charles, but I like Charles. I would like to be friends with Charles. Charles is like I like Charles. We've only had like one or two conversations. I like a Charles McDonald's. I'm a fan of Charles McDonald's. But I aspire to be his friend.

Okay. So we'll have to let him know. We'll make the introduction. But Charles, I know talking with him last year going into that draft and just like, hey, like what are you thinking?

He said like everyone is saying pass rusher, past rusher, pass rusher, but like don't, you know, I don't think you like write that into stone. This is the team that, like from the jump, everything is best player available, best player available,

best player available, best player. They've only ever taken offensive skill players. Right. I think that when you look at in last, everyone right now again it's the same thing like everyone's given them Mike Green and Shamar Stewart and James Pierce and Mikel Williams like most almost every single mock draft it's a pass rusher it might be the case but it also might not like you might say like

all right well there's going to be pass rushers later whoever the best player available is so if it's in Manwari I think he would make a lot of sense if it's Shahad Campbell that's another one I think that could make some sense no bad athletes no slow guys production does matter so I don't know that this is a Shamar Stewart team ironically the only guy that they've selected on the first three rounds in the last couple years under Fontno that had a bad production score was Zach Harrison, who you may remember, that was one of my early comps for Shamar Stewart. And they promptly moved him into defensive tackle because he just couldn't cut it on the edge. So I don't know that they would go down that path.

Now, it doesn't feel like people are, I know, I know that they have needs on defense, but it doesn't feel like people are talking about the Falcons like they are a team like the Patriots or Bears who needs to help fortify the offense for Michael Pennix. I know that they have drafted Drake London and Kyle Pitts and Bejohn Robbins. But, you know, is the offensive line good enough? Like, couldn't that be a reasonable pick? Yeah, I mean, I think Caleb McGarry's entering a contract year. Right.

He's going to be an expiring contract on right tackle. So how about Gray's Abel, a guy who can give you, you know, wherever we, wherever we backfill, Gray's able can play somewhere. And I don't have these in my notes, but I know just off the top of my head that they have drafted outside of the power five, now power four conferences at one of the higher rates in football. So I don't think that they would be scared to take an FCS player in the top 15. Okay. How about Arizona?

as we really race through this, baby. We are about to be halfway done. Over under 123. Finish time. Over. Okay, let's see. But I think we'll be done before 130. Okay, got it. All right, so we're in the ballpark.

All right, 16. Arizona. I don't know. The names here for the Cardinals. Kenneth Grant, most often, people are all over the board here. Kenneth Grant has six votes. Kelvin Banks, Jr., five. Tyler Booker, Josh Simmons, James Pierce, Jr.

All have four. So Banks has gotten the most love lately, the left tackle. Everyone has been giving them defensive line, but I think people are starting to come around an offensive line for them. Derek Harmon, the defensive tackle Morgan, also getting some buzz. When you're looking at Montiassafor and Jonathan Gannon, since they've been hired, high value positions early in the draft,

explosive and athletic, a high volume of good athletes, mostly refined players, more guys that are like finished products than pure projects. So I don't know what that means for like a Kenneth Grant. I don't know what that means for James Pierce Jr. They do really value versatility and multiplicity on both sides of the football and a huge, huge emphasis on football character. And so that's obviously the stuff that we're not always completely privy to on the outside. They are very willing to move

up and down the board. I know you wanted to ask about like a potential trade team. I do think that Montiastiff will be willing to make those moves. But this is a team whenever I've done a mock draft, I've gotten a 16 and I've struggled like, oh, like I don't know if they got good value for what they need. This could be a situation where they could move up or down going into this the person who came to mind when you were describing all of those things who you don't have highlighted here what about jihad campbell i bought up jihad campbell i was this close to my last mock draft cardinals and i was on with our ph and x guys with bow and with johnny and i was like yeah right now i've got a pennsylvania jihad campbell and they were just they both like look up to the ceiling and were like

arizona fans will riot if they'd select another off ball line yeah because he's even collins right and Hassan Reddick. Yeah. Like, because neither guy was not, who like could be a different position. Yeah. So I honestly, look,

it was a different regime, obviously. Steve Time was a GM for both those selections. But I was like, yeah, like, I'll spare Arizona, the angst that I'll go offensive tackle.

And I ended up, I might have been Simmons maybe, who, by the way, like they hired Ohio State's offensive line coach, be their offensive line coach. So there's some inroads there.

Not that our, this is something else I track. Okay. Arizona, drafts less teams that have like those strong like links on the coaching staff and other teams historically. Interesting. Okay. I don't know that Simmons, the Ohio State thing is not a necessarily huge thing. Now here are the names I've got. I did put Simmons in as one of the possibilities. I do think Kelvin Banks checks a lot of the boxes for this coaching staff that would probably require

Paris Johnson former first round pick over to right tackle. Banks is left tackle in his career. Then Derek Harmon, the tackle from Oregon is done in checks boxes. Got. All right. Let's go to Cincinnati. a team that is trying to really build their roster stars and scrubs. They're paying like three guys, maybe four, and then they want to fill out the rest. What do you think they might do here? Yeah,

most popular names in the mock drafts, Mike Green, pass rush from Marshall, another pass rush to Mars. That is such a, that is such a Bengals pick. It is for the way that we knew the Bengals. Yeah,

they're not like that anymore. They're not, they don't do this anymore. They're not Shamar Stewart's team or James Spir's Jr.'s team. Yeah, no, it's not like, you know, Fontes perfect.

Yeah. Yeah, different Taylor Mays. Under Duke Tobin and Zach Taylor, they have not selected one medical red flag or, sorry, character red flag. They selected some medical red flag. What about your main burden?

He was not someone that I put in the red character flag. Okay. Because the stuff that he had, the stuff that he had was not that. Okay. To me, like a red flag, like the stuff that's out there with my green that he talked about,

but that's a little bit more serious than what we were talking about with, Jermaine Burton. Now, that said, when you're looking at what they have done, first of all, people are mocking offense in alignment to them. I've seen tight-knit mock drafts. I find it extremely hard to believe that they're going to invest in office. I think this is going to be defense all the way. They have got to get that unit turned around. So to me, that eliminates all alignment and tight-end here. Four out of five first rounders under Duke Tobin have been third-year junior, so I do think an underclassman here more likely.

Not traits-based, not a lot of high-level athletes for the guys that they pick, like, you know, in terms of the athletic profile. But also not a lot of guys that put up big numbers. So like a lot of bad production scores. So like Amarius Mims didn't have a long resume. Germain Burton did put a big production. McKinley Jackson, not big production.

Jordan Battle, Joseph O'S-I, Drew Sample, all these guys had poor production scores. It feels like it could. That's the Shamar Stewart marker. Yeah. Third year junior with like length that also has a low production. That would make sense. Then Malachi Stark is what I actually really like that fit

as well in the middle of Al Golden's defense. So, yeah, I would say Malachi Starks are Shmar's through names that stand out most. Okay, that's interesting. Let's go to Seattle. A team that has an extra second round pick, thanks to the D.K. Medcaf trades. So maybe they've got some ammunition to move up. Who are some of the players that they might target, knowing that this is, Schneider's been there, but this is only Mike McDonald's second draft.

Yeah, everyone's kind of bookmarking offensive line for them. Tyler Booker, the most mocking, Gray's Able second behind them. Yes, good, thank you. Gray's able, second there on the list. then there's five guys with three votes. You're seeing receivers, tackle, and Todd Campbell. So mostly offense here with the Seahawks. McMillan, Tetero McMillan is coming in hot.

He's gotten a little bit of buzz here late in the last week or so with Seattle. So that would be a name to keep in mind if he were to fall to this point. The thing with John Schneider, he's been there for so long. It is hard to kind of weed out the John Schneider tendency versus the Pete Carroll tendency. So that is something certainly that's on my mind. One thing that is prevalent, toughness, competitiveness, like chip on their shoulder. That's something we always hear John Schneider talk about. I mentioned earlier with Pete Carroll.

We talked about the Raiders. This is a huge smokescreen team. 30 visits don't really mean much early on in the draft. I don't think this is a team called their intentions that way. Last March, this was interesting. I want to get your thoughts here. It's probably a big discussion overall. But last March, he exists at owners meetings.

John Snyder explained, like they draft the highest graded player available, but that grade is influenced by grades and numbers of similar position group club-controlled players on the roster. To me, I read that as, yeah, we take into account like who's on our roster when we're about it. You're waiting need. Waiting need in the way. So you could say like it's the best player available, but the need on your roster

factored that grade. Right. So in other words, you're setting up the draft board so that come draft day, you don't have to bounce around and think, oh, we need this position. are pre-baking that in. Yeah, I think that's, it is practical, but probably not ideal long term. Yeah, I would agree with that.

Yeah. So the names that I've got, you're Mark, Seattle, I think makes sense. John A. Barron, Kelvin, Kelvin Banks, Jr., the left tackle for Texas, Josh Simmons from Ohio State, and then Tyler Booker from Arizona, or from Alabama. I think those winners all make sense for Seattle.

Okay. I'm curious to see what they do. Yes. I feel much less excited about them with Sam Donald, the quarterback like most people, I would say, but I'm still curious. Yeah. All right.

Tampa Bay, Jason Light. Very good track record. As a drafter. Especially lately. Especially lately. I think my understanding is the Robert Aguayo was really more ownership driven than Jason light. Maybe that's retroactive after the spot.

But what do we know about the way that Jason Light draft? Yeah. What's tough about the guy, you would think that the GMs are installed for a long time. And now we're getting to that part where all of these guys are. very have a pretty deep roots have a profile. Problem is when you have a head coach that's been there for when you have a general manager that's been there for multiple head coaches, typically that profile can morph and evolve and change.

And I think that that's the case for when you're looking at Jason Light. Jehad Campbell, the runaway favorite for this pick, like far and away. Like he's got, he was drafted them 19 different mock drafts. Second place in that list are four guys with three. So basically, he is the runaway favorite there. Shamar Stewart has gotten a little bit of love the last two weeks. I do not think Shamar Stewart is a fit for Tampa the way that they typically draft. The reason why I say that, they've been very big in production.

That has been a very prevalent theme with Tampa Bay Bucks and with Jason Light over the course of his tenure, typically draft guys. Yeah, that have upside, but typically it's upside with production. And it's more just like, all right, like, you're looking at what this guy did. He can still be even better. Those are the kind of bets that they typically try and make. you can't be a bad athlete, you can't be a slow guy, especially over the last few years. They've really prioritized the athletic profile, but it's really about like toughness, upside, and production.

So here are the names that stand out to me. Jihad Campbell, the linebacker from Alabama. Donovan Azaraku, I think, from Boston College. I think this is his ceiling here at this spot here, the edge rusher from BC. James Pierce, Jr., I think, would make some sense out of Tennessee. Maxwell Harrison, the corner from Kentucky, Tataro McMillan. This would be another team, I think, would make sense there if they wanted to get ahead of Mike Evans. Right.

Yeah. Okay. I'm curious about that. Denver? John Payton? A little wild card. Yep. Throwing some back on the draft weekend.

Yeah. The names that are most often mocked to them, Colston Loveland, Elmarion Hampton, Ashton Genty, but not really-fixing. Yeah. So they just kind of continue to build up around Bo Nix. That's the general consensus. You've started to see some defensive players lately, but it's very, mostly offensive playmakers for this team in mock drafts now you believe that i think that

something that happens with mock drafts often this is like over the last notice this is it's so like oh yeah Denver's going to take a running back or tight end totally and then it's like oh yeah well we forgot that oh yeah maybe they their left guard is a free agent next year their safety is 30 32 years old and then we get ahead of it um so i think we can get into that trap that said i do kind of think that it'll be something to build around that offense. You look at what that defense did last year, the steps that the steps they made under Vance Joseph, I think that they want to kind of raise the floor,

raise the ceiling of this offense a little bit. So that would be my guess. Do you think there's a wide receiver aside for McMillan would make sense? Could, like, could be a Luther Burton team? They could. Or in a Mecca team? Yeah, well, let's get into some of that.

So you tell me if this is a Luther burden. This sounds like Luther Baird is. Because I think the Luther Bairdard is going to go. I do. I think he's going to go. So it's a matter like which team is going to make this call. Athletic profile matters, high number of good athletes and low number of bad athletes on day one and two. So like both ends of the spectrum, like they are definitely trending more towards good athletes.

Under George Payton, they've taken just very confusing. Different spellings. Yeah. Whole deal. They've taken just one 23 year old on the first two days of the draft. So young players. Okay. Versatile players, both sides of the ball.

They value versatility. Burton checks that box. Small samples are okay. Lots of guys with very little starting experience. That's not really the case with Byrne. Positional value does not matter. George Payton has taken running backs, guards, tight ends, and offball linebacker in the draft.

So, you know, although Sean Payton, I think, is more geared to the impact position. That's neither here nor there. Medically, very conservative early draft. That's not a concern with Byrd. Very capable of being a surprise team. That was one of my last nugget there. This is a team that could shock us.

So there was something that Sean Payton did often. And they've been fairly hard to predict over the course of their tenure there together in Denver, too. So I could definitely see Luther Burden be a pick. He is very, one of the names I wrote down for him was Brandon Cooks. Sean Payton took Brandon Cooks. He ended up for Brandon Cooks all those years. I do think Tetero McMillan makes sense.

Cortland Sutton is going into contract year. That's actually a comp that I had for McMillan is Cortland Sutton. Marion Hampton, I think, does make some sense. The Mary Hampton makes sense to me. Yeah. He could be like a marketing. The other person I thought of as you, this 20 is too high, but maybe if they move down or if they're moving up in second round, sounds a lot like an Elijah Arroyo team.

Oh, yeah. I mean, like athletic upside, small sample size. No question. Yeah. I mean, I think that's, he screams Denver Broncos. And that's where it's like, everyone's like, oh, yeah, they're close to Loveland, put them in. and I'm like, all right, well, they might just say like, oh, if we can get a Royo on round two,

like, let's get, let's get a pass rusher or a safety or, you know, whoever here in round one. I like that. That's a good fit. Okay. Let's go. Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh Steelers. This, they have, they have traditionally been a team where everybody sort of knows who they're going to pick ahead of time. Right. So how's that looking this year? They're all over the board. People, what the Pittsburgh Steelers are going to do. Good for them for once. All right. Well, um, I love this. I love kind of following the steels because Mike Tomlin is, you can tell, like, just loves the draft process. He doesn't love like the media, all the hype around the draft. Yeah. He loves like, uh, like, like, all the, you know, like, all the, you know, like, like, like, all the, he does.

Always at the senior bowl, like right on top of drills. He's at the combine. He loves to coach me. He loves ball. Just like, yeah, just say he's a ball. Now, who are the names most often? Jackson Dart and Emeka Buka are the two leaders in the clubhouse there. The wider season ball house.

They can't be taking Jackson Dart at 21. What are we thinking? They just did the Kenny Pickett thing at 19 or whatever. Can't do that again. Shailon Bill Row accepted a draft invite. Going to the draft in Green Bay? Could this be a spot? I don't know.

But they make a point of they want guys on Sun. Day two. Isn't that a thing? Like they want guys who are going to be there for the second round? Yeah, they haven't announced that full list yet. Okay. So I'm interested to see what the dispersion is there in terms of the... And remember Jalen Hertz said that he thought that Pittsburgh was going to draft him. Yeah. Hmm, interesting.

All right, so Dart and the defensive tackles are the most popular options. They have not been mocked a receiver since the... They are not drafting Jackson Dart at 21. I agree with you. We're just going off with the mocks are telling us. it's more likely they were right that they would draft jillan milrow at 21 the jackson dart come on they they just they just did this with picket no i'm with you uh that said uh the other thing to keep in mind pittsburgh like mike tomlin's been there for forever remember that omar con has only been the

gm for the last two years so it's a pretty small sample of what we're looking at here uh in terms of his history um very sneakly they are now one of the like they draft like the traitiest players a ton of plus athletes a ton of big like a big prospect of like a lot of high high high lightweight speed production does not matter a lot of red production score red meat negative production scores um guys that feel like Steelers i think they'll kind of feel like there's that ethos there like i think those guys still kind of fit um which is fun though because now it's like all right like you have the type it's like as long as you check the boxes from a trade standpoint right these are guys that kind of fit um with that mind with that in mind uh shamar stewart i think makes some sense

Matthew Golden, the wide receiver from Texas, the guy they've done a lot of work on. That's the other thing too. You think Shamar Stewart feels like a Mike Tomlin guy? I do think that there's something there in terms of like the traits. Like I can get the most out of him. From these markers. Yeah, I do. Now, are they going to select an edge rusher?

They've got three guys that are. Yeah. I don't think that they're. But in terms of guys that fit the profile, Shamar Stewart does. Now, people are calling Shadur Sanders like the. Wait, we didn't talk about. I know. People are calling this.

Now, here's the only thing. I mentioned how much Mike Tomlin loves the pre-draft process. I did not mention the fact that he goes to more pro days than like any code, any head coach in the league and he's done it for years. And that was actually like a telltale sign more so than the 30 was did Mike Tomlin and the GM go to the pro day? Because they would always be like, all right, head coach and GM, hand in hand, walk into the pro day.

And they would bring the coordinators with them. It's like a traveling road show that go school to school all through that two to three week's fan. Shador Sanders had that showcase last week, separate from everything. They didn't send their head coach. They didn't send the offensive coordinator. That's good. That's good.

Like to me for a team that typically is very like purposeful with sending guys out, the fact that they did not, that to me like speaks. That's interesting. Yeah. Oh, that's a good. Yeah. So I don't, I do not think this. I'm not going to.

I won't be mocking them Shador Sanders. You don't really have anybody in the first 20 taking Chador as a, as a, as a good, as as a neat fit. Right. As a clean fit. I agree. Okay. That's why it's going to be,

that's going to be fascinating. Okay. L.A. Chargers. You got the, you got the Harbaugh. You got the Ravens DNA. What do we think about them in year two of this regime

with Joe Ortiz? One big thing that stood out from last year, 78% of their picks, which I think I don't know, was that 7 of 8, whatever was, were guys that they coached in college.

And that's not, You can't do that forever, but you have, you have like a one or two year opportunity to do that. Basically, Hortiz said it after. He said, this is going to be an advantage for us for a couple of years. They know the ins and outs of the players that they've coached that they face them. They've recruited. There was more last year or this year in terms of players. It'll be less so next year.

But that said, I look at that also, like who, what the profile there, the player? Tough, consistent players with long resumes, guys that had like a lot of pelts on the wall that just like, it felt good about the player was, no bad. athletes as well. So with that in mind, who were guys that fit? Colston Loveland, most often mocked player to the Chargers. Played for Harbaugh, it makes sense. A couple other Michigan guys in there.

Kenneth Grant Johnson makes some sense. They've got other coaches on staff that coached Malachi Starks, the same from Georgia, would make a lot of sense in that defense. Landon Jackson, the pass rusher from Arkansas. This could be like the, maybe they trade down or if they go off the board a little bit there. And then Azarié Thomas, the corner from Florida State. They just hired their D.

Coordinator to be their B coach this offseason. I think that Zarié Thomas is another player. I'm keeping eye on there. That's interesting. It's good nuggets. Yeah. We'll see. I think they could also be a wide receiver team.

I think so. And when you get at it, who is the one that it's like, okay, like not a bad athlete, but just tough, consistent, like, Ekbuka feels that way. That feels like an Egbuka team. I agree with that. All right. Let's go to Green Bay. There it has been difficult for them to focus on the pre-draft process,

given the volume of whining and crying from Mark Murphy next to the draft room. Like they sort of have to like turn up the white noise machine because. And then he's just like stinking up the house or the sticking up there, the facility with his diapers. Well, from what I understand it was it was actually really easy for them to set the board right when the season ended. Because when guys came in like after the comment, oh, we got to push this guy at the board. He said, no, we can't push anybody.

Right. There's no moving around. They got to stick with the airport that they had. What is a, what is a Green Bay Packers type of player? Very strict body type thresholds. They've evolved a little bit over time. Justice Mosqueda, who does great work covering the Packers. He's really chronicled this really, really well.

But when you're talking to weight speed, arm length, all that stuff, they have very strict guidelines on guys that they're trying to bring in the building there. They do trend older. a court board one of the only teams in the league that has taken a 24 year old in the first round uh and the current general managers the current makers um they've only taken three fc s players and 72 picks under brian guttukins i actually asked uh goody about this yeah baby what is it that set those guys apart um and he said look they came from fcs programs with great pedigree guys that played an all-star games so that sounds like gray zabel so i'm like you leave abel there if you feel like they might go

offensive line. That said, I think Shamar Stewart makes a lot of sense. Maybe he checks a lot of the boxes for them. Derek Harmon from Oregon makes a lot of sense. Chavon Revell, the corner from ECU. Yeah, I see all of those. Jade Barron as well. Makes a lot of sense.

So to me, there's a few different things. I think that makes sense. I think you outlines those. Well, they sound like Packers to me. How about in Minnesota? Dofomensa? What has been his type? So I was very interested to talk to Quasi in at the combine for this reason because

he got hired everyone kind of in it. Oh, well, he came from Cleveland. He's known as like for the analytic background. Follow the same template with the Cleveland Brown. It's going to be young, athletic, power five, like the Tradesy players. Like we're going to keep it on the fairway from an analytic standpoint. They have been the opposite. Yeah.

It's like unlike Cleveland, they have this for my notes, they've taken one of the lowest. taken one of the lowest numbers of 21 and 22 players. They've taken a lot of older guys. A high amount of red flag players, guys that had some baggage character-wise or medical-wise, more bad athletes than I would have expected. So I asked Quisi about this at the Combine. And he gave a guy, I thought, a great answer.

I had not thought about it this way. He said, I think with everything, we try and not be hard set in our rules per se. And I think obviously you always want the players that are most at everything. The youngest, the fastest, the biggest, the smartest. there's only so many of those players in every draft. So what do you do after that?

How do you win on the margins? How do you find value elsewhere? We play a lot of great systems that tax other parts of a player besides pure athleticism. And so we try and get value out of that. But look, I think if you look at our draft, our free agency acquisitions, it's a portfolio. You're trying to find different bets in different ways.

We have two or three-year horizon where we're trying to do those things and ultimately go see where it shakes out relative to your benchmark and then go from there. That was an awesome answer. and also just a way again all this stuff that we're talking about can be important but you guys just because you have a preference doesn't mean it's a possibility to get that preference right

and so and and just because you have a preference doesn't mean you're going to opt for the preference over a higher graded player who has a couple dings on the things that you prefer exactly right and so when I look at it there when I have a team like this and I'm going to go and go to a mock draft you know

there's obviously a lot of ambiguity because all doors open in my mind. When I'm looking at Arizona, oh, this guy's really small. I don't think they're going to look down on that. Oh, this guy came from a small school. They're not going to look down on that. He didn't produce, whatever it is. Then it becomes, it comes down like scheme fit.

And so for me, when I look at Minnesota, that is something I'm certainly trying to do to keep looking at one of the higher 30 visit trends in the leagues in the league as well, so that they can be a little bit predictive from that standpoint. So here are a few names I've got written down from Minnesota. And it goes really on both sides of the ball, but I think this is going to be a defensive pick if I had to guess here. Nick E. Manwari was in my first mock draft to Brian Flores. I think he's

on a sense for a Brian Flores defense. Derek Harmon often mocked there. The tackle from Morgan, it feels like Harmon's going to go on the first round. I keep bringing him up here. Chauvin Revell, the corner from ECU, I think makes a lot of sense. Purple to purple. Yeah, the Jersey, the group combo makes some sense there. Will Johnson, the corner from Michigan,

makes some sense. Maxwell Harrison, the corner from Kentucky. And then Al-Qai Starks. So, yeah, I think that when you're looking at Minnesota, this is a team that feels defense. I think a lot of options are open for this team. One other one.

Okay. I think they might be a sneaky running back team. Okay. What about O'Marion Hampton? I could see that, right? If Hampton made it this far? Yeah. If Hampton makes it this far,

he's glaring at the top of their board. Yeah. They don't stick to the analytical, no running back in the first round. And you're thinking of how can we help out JJ McCarthy? I think I could see that. I could see that. they've talked about the running back.

And they've got Aaron Jones. Yeah, and they've said it like, oh, we want him to be the best version of himself. Yeah, I like that. All right, let's move on to Houston. All right, we're at 1.10. We've got 18 left. Yeah.

Houston, Texas. Nick Casario. They have tried to rebuild this roster on the fly. Yeah, for the past couple months. What do you think they might be focused on doing? Almost every single one of their picks since he's been hired has been Power 5. I think it's just one player has not been power five.

Now, Gray Zabel has been blocked the player through them. Could that eliminate Zabel? Maybe, maybe not. Like, we don't know. But that's one of keep in mind. One of the highest numbers of third year players in the first two days of the draft. Their first two picks is, Nick Cario, they didn't have a first round pick. They didn't have a second round pick, his first two, or his first draft there.

So his first two picks were in the third round. They took Davis Mills and they took Nico Collins. They were both fourth year guys that didn't produce and like just are the you know, they didn't have long resume in college. Their next 12 selections from 2020 to 2024, again in the first three rounds of the draft, they were all third year guys. Interesting. So I don't know if that's Gray's able.

I don't know if this is a mecca who is more like that long track record type. I think it's probably more the third year guy that you're kind of betting upside. They have not drafted one character red flag under Nick Carrierio. could that eliminate Josh Jimins depending on their evaluation of the background? Yeah, I think that this one is an interesting pick here. Again, all four, this is another one too,

all four of their first round picks under Nick Casario, and four out of his 10 day two picks have all been in for 30, so they can be predictive that way. So in for 30 visit, young player, like 30 year junior, from a Power 5 school.

Nice little profile, nice little profile. Who fits that? I don't know who's visited them, but that sounds. Calvin Banks. They have been very quiet with the 30% this year. Okay. So we'll see.

Well, they have been quiet, but what that also means is they don't have as many beatwriters covering the team. Right. So you get less reporting about visits. That's very true. One guy who's typically on top of like visits and is like one who like is Aaron Wilson. Yeah, that's true.

Covers that team pretty closely. He's had like private workouts with them. Not a lot. I think he's, I think he has put out like five or six, 30% so far. So not a huge. They've got to go offensive line though.

I would think so, yes. So I think Kelvin Banks Jr. definitely fit. That's the other thing too is that like Damico, like they have very quickly like flip that culture to the point where I can like, you can like watch a guy and say like,

yep, he's a fit for the Houston Texans or this guy's not a fit. I think Kelvin Banks kind of represents the idea of what they want to be. What, just the nastiness? Fastiness, but also just like the buttonedness. Is that the, of course.

Yeah. Sure. That's a word, right? The buttonedness. The buttoned-upness. I think that is true. Right. Exactly.

I'm missing the top. But yeah, Kelvin Banks, Jr., I think makes some sense. I think Matthew Golden, the receiver from Texas. I think he would make some sense. I put Jamar Stewart on there because of the profile. I don't think that they would take an edge rush for the guy, just because of what they've got tied up in position. I do think Tyler Booker makes a ton of sense here for this team.

The guard from Alabama. My pushback on Tyler Booker is, I feel like it's a not dissimilar profile to Kenyon Green and they just had that bust. Yeah, but, the thing with guard only yeah but well green played four out of five in college uh and also like bookers like eight plus plus plus off the field uh like extremely locked in like he was a team captain as junior in albama okay they like loved him uh off the field so um not to like speak badly on on kenyon green you get what i'm saying um uh Luther burden would be the other one that's interesting because i think

receiver is a is a sneaky for this team and if burden kind of pat if if they're okay with the presumed like off-field stuff that would be another one to watch out for. All right. Let's go to the Rams. Who are the oldest players in the draft? Right. What's fascinated about this one. If you looked at that mock draft,

I did a couple weeks ago, Josh Connerley was the one that was most often mocked them. He was nine and the next one. After that was like two or three. All of the Josh Connerly picks were before the combine. So it was like every mock draft before the combine gave them Josh Connerly and none since then. Or does that mean those people think he's going to go earlier? It's later.

Yeah. I think everyone presumed Josh Connell go first round and then they got around scouts for a little weekend. Oh, yeah, actually, never mind. I think he's more of a day two guy. The Rams don't have a second round pick, so this is a team. Like, if you're thinking of Howie Rosen moving up from 32,

this is a spot where that could make sense. I agree. I think the Rams absolutely would be a team. They're typically looking to trade. They will, they could be an impressive trade up team as well. They were very active trying to move up last year. Teams are, people are all over the board. No one has been picked twice in the last.

to for this team. So they're, no one really knows. Yeah. Yeah, but usually there's like, you know, there's some like trends that people are all over the board with this franchise. So now, what makes it especially tough is, Rams are very mysterious,

like they, they abstain from the senior bowl. They go to the senior bowl. They don't go to the senior bowl. They don't send many people at all to the combine. So it's, there's not a lot of intel out there about the Rams. So they also haven't had a lot of first round picks,

obviously in recent years. so there's not a lot of trends to go off of with this team. So some of the highest rates of poor athleticism and speed scores. It's crazy. Yeah, they take guys with like terrible profiles. And they work out very well. Usually work out pretty well. They trend more told old players like you mentioned,

experience seniors. It's also like, you know, listening to like the press conferences with Sneed with McVeigh after the draft. It's very much like a vibes team. It's like, yeah. Love the journey.

Like clutch. Well, I remember asking about Jordan about the old guys. Like, you know what? I kind of think that like Sean McVey just doesn't have the patience for young guys anymore. I think that might be right.

He just wants me. Well, that's what like it's, they're perceived as a team, not they're not this way, but they're perceived as a team that's like very like analytic forward and stuff. A lot of the things they talk about are like not. Right.

You know, again, it's like, oh, this guy's just really clutch or like, oh, he comes from a football family or the guy's care factor. And I do interviews matter a big, big way for this team.

They are very quiet about it. Again, they don't, they usually don't send people. people out to events. Les Sneed did go to a couple of pro days this year, which is a little bit different for him. I wonder if that's because Gladstone's not there.

That might be the case. Yeah, this is, this is another wild card out you. Yeah. Shador. I know. I've thought about it. And I do think it, I do think that it's possible.

I think Shador, that's a sneaky team. Okay. Right. Yeah. I think it's a sneaky short team. I do think it's going to be offense. I don't think,

last year the plan was the first. it to be an offensive draft. It ended up being defense heavy. I think that this year it's like almost definitely going to be offense. I think Emeka at Kuka is like, yeah, like I could see them thinking he's a Cooper Cup replacement. Well, he's like his strengths and like, I'm not saying he's Cooper Cup,

but I could see them squinting to be Cooper Cup. I think that they're burden, like yards out of catch wise, makes a lot of sense. They made the Brandon Cook's comparison before. Like he's the guy that has had success in that McFey scheme. I think Crazy Abel would make some sense. Jaday Barron is another one I think would make some sense for the team. So yeah, that's gonna be an interesting one they're on the clock. That's an interesting one.

All right, let's go to Baltimore, another team that you have a nice long history of preferences. What do you know about a, okay, well, tell me why. Because you had Ozzie for obviously long time. DeCastah, they were a few years. Similar DNA though, yeah. Similar DNA, but they actually, they've they've pivoted on a few different things. We used to make, you know, as we still the week, the last week, the Harts.

pick. Yeah, true. I mean, that was one of Ozzie Newsom's last picks. Since then, they are like, they trend very, very young early on the draft. They're not, they're not taking 25-year-old tight ends in the ground. God. Not yet. I guess I said, it's not. Tell me, but Josh Simon. But, yeah, I mean, look, right now Malachi Stark's most often mock to them, Josh Simmons mocked to them, Nick and Jada Barron. It does feel like this is the fool of Malachi Starks in most mock drafts.

They are not afraid of guys that don't test well. I remember after the Kyle Hamilton, I wrote from DeCosta, I can tell you what some of our best players the last few years ran in the first. Like, you know, they just, like a running joke in that building. That guy's fault in that. Zero character red flags under Eric DeCosta. They've been more of a mystery team under DeCosta, good smoke screen team. You know, with the local, they use their local writers pretty well,

where it's like, oh, a lot of their local writers go with this player, and then they pivot and they go so different. He has talked in interviews about how, you know, they were really purposeful. about sure that Lamar Jackson's get out because they want to know that they were kind of potentially interested in him. They will do, they will use that way as smokescreen. Players that I've got for them, I do think Mount Kai Starks makes sense.

If he were to fall, he's like that kind of player. A couple of these edge rushers, Michael Williams, if he were to somehow fall because, oh, he didn't test all that great. Nick Scorton, the earliest he would go. Donovan has a Rockwood definitely feels like a Ravens type of pick. And then McMillan, Tetero, McMillan, I think makes them out of Booker, makes them. I could also see them double-dipping at corner. After Wiggins last year, I could see that too. They moved on for the guys in that room.

Chiodobiae Ousiers. Yeah, I'm not counting on him. Right. You've got Jaday Barron in here as a possibility, but I could see that. I can see that too. All right, Detroit, who's going to bite some kneecaps? Who's going to eat through glass for Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell? Most often mocked player to them and all the mock draft samples.

It's like 40 plus mock drafts is Mike Green, pass rusher from Marshall. Yeah. Not once since the scene poll. Okay. Well, I think that when you're looking at it, and I think that that makes some sense there. Donovan Jackson, right after that,

the guard from Ohio State, Shamar Stewart, the defensive end from Texas A&M, and then a handful of players. Now, heavy offensive line, defensive line. That's where most people feel like the lines are going to go. Now it's just they're all over the board in terms of who that player is. Here's the profile for the Lions under this regime. Very young. 50% of their picks were 21 years old and younger on days 1 and 2,

86% 22 years old or younger. That's some highest rates of third year guys. So typically you're going to trend younger. Versatility on both sides of the ball. Guys that you mentioned the bite the kneecaps. There's a certain kind of player that they're looking for. Position value we know, not important for them. They went to Jemir Gibbs and the lineback from Iowa, Jack Campbell,

and they like last the idea of positional value in the months and years after that. Yeah, players over projects, more finished products. So there's something else that Brad Holmes was asked about last year. They've taken guys from high in the draft from like Alabama, Iowa, like, you know, blue blood, like pro-style programs. And he said, yeah, it's probably more of a coincidence, but you do have a good deal for players from those schools. You know what they've been through. You know, they practice, you know, the kind of coaching they've gotten. So that's kind of earmarked as well.

Some guys, I think, make a lot of sense. Donovan is Raku, I think makes a lot of sense for the Detroit Lions. Derek Harmon, defensive tackle from Oregon, makes a lot of sense. Jehott Campbell from Alabama, Tyler Booker, the guard from Alabama as well. I think make a lot of sense for them. All right. Washington, year two, this regime. Yep.

Trying to bounce back from the NFC championship. Now, they traded a future second round pick for Laramie Tunsell, so maybe they're a team who wants to move down a little bit. But what do you think we'll see from now? Yeah, a lot of people have them take going with Chris Jr. or Mike Clinton. Those are the two most often, most commonly mocked players to this franchise. I don't think either make a lot of sense. Do I? Yeah.

I think James Pierce, like, potentially, like on field would make some sense there. But I think that we're looking at the way that they pick players, there's their other guys. I also think it's, you know, all the behind-the-scenes videos from Washington last year was about like the guys who were going to help set their culture. thousand percent and i think that changes in year two i think you still want that you're still building the bedrock but i think you're you're a little bit more willing to focus on specific needs and stuff that was that was my question for adipy carbine was about this because they drafted like unbelievable we didn't even plan that well like six they drafted like six captains last year it's like something like that and that was a big emphasis yeah um now that was my question i was going to ask someone jumped me

and asked the same exact question so i actually went up to the guy after i was like i had the same that question like uh right roll and adam peters gave a i wanted to hear was like it was he was on one side he was like honestly when we had our exit meetings a lot of the vets told us that they loved the type of player that we bought in because the way i wanted the frame of question was do you double down you drafted this way last year do you double down on that and say or is it how tempting is it to say like maybe we got these guys like now we can go and we can take a bigger risk and he said no like we had those exit meetings so adamant that they liked the what that's the type of player that we win in so double down on it so i yeah i think if there are questions there about guys off the field

i don't so tyler booker yeah Tyler booker makes a lot of sense uh it's the same cosmy tears the acl in december or january um i think that that would that would be a guy that certainly fits that ethos donovan aziraku i think makes a lot of sense there he'll set wise he's kind of player that i think that uh that dan quinn could fit could work with there in that defense jihad campbell the linebacker from Washington, how often did he see Washington blitz those linebackers? I think he would fit really well in the team. And then Grace Abel, I think,

makes some sense as well in that office, especially one of the big things from Adam Peters, this was the way with him in San Francisco, was the way with him in Denver as well, and certainly showed up in Washington last year. A lot of senior bowl players, especially early on in the draft contextually compared to our team.

So that would be something to watch as well. All right. We'll move us on a little bit quickly to go to Buffalo at number 3. 30 Buffalo team that has an extra second round pick. So they could be willing to move up in a little bit. But what do you know of the Brandon Bean type? Yeah. Shout out to Shea.

Aggressive to trade up. Aggressive to trade up. Age matters early. Four out of six first rounders are 21 years younger. Athletic profile matters for round one. Does not matter later in the draft, but the early picks, the first round picks, athletic profile matters. Production matters early on.

So you can remove like a guy like, like, Hart Stewart in my mind from this conversation. If you were to fall here, alert for the Senior Bowl, even early positional value does not matter. So three names that I've got pencils in for Buffalo, knowing all these factors. Nick M. Anwarie, the safety from South Carolina,

Landon Jackson, the past rush from Arkansas, and Maxwell Hirsten, the Corn, from Kentucky. Let's go to Kansas City. Andy Reed, Brett Beach. Used to picking it at the back end of the first round. What do we know about him? Heavy love for Josh Simmons in recent mock drafts. It feels like everyone's kind of penciling him in

into that spot. A lot of it has happened in the last couple weeks. So that's where a lot of the love is going right now. Almost half of their early round picks have been true Juniors. He's a redshirt junior, so he would be just off that. But they've gone younger, not afraid of size limitations in all areas of the draft. They trended a lot smaller. A lot of people think like, oh, Tandreed, it's a lot of speed,

a high athletic players. They've actually, like, look, they're not going to turn down guys of speed. They traded up for Dave Worthy last year. But it's not like, oh, yeah, they only draft guys with high athletic profile. compared to the rest of the league, it's actually a below average number. But the big thing that stands out, really versatile players, guys that can be moved all around the formation, using a lot of different ways on both sides of the football.

So, and we also know that they're willing to make, they'll make concessions off the field as well. So it's almost like they want it. Well, yeah, it's like they feel like that's value that they can get. So that's where, like, anyone that has those questions, you're going to, you can say, like, okay, this could be a safe landing spot. So James Pearson, Mike Green and those guys, right? So, and obviously all these.

case different, Walter Nolan. Azaria Thomas is a scheme fit that I think makes a lot of sense. They were talking about like, hey, like, they couldn't protect, they couldn't protect, they couldn't protect the Eagles in the Super Bowl. They also couldn't stop AJ Brown and Devante Smith. Like the Eagles receivers had their way with those corners. They like big, long physical press corners in that scheme. Azaria Thomas kind of, he fits that bill.

So I've mocked him there. I do think that that makes some sense. Eminem Wari makes him well. Tyler Booker would make sense. But those are the names that from the chiefs. All right. If you are an Eagles fan, you have waited this long. You have waited this long. Fran has been pouring out everything from his brain.

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All that good stuff. Okay. Howie Roseman? All over the place. All over the place. I think recently we know the top 30 visits matter a lot. Yep. agree.

They want to make the best bet they can. Yep. And worry a little bit less about obfuscation and more about, you know, making sure that they're bringing the right guys in the building. I think the football character matters a lot to them in recent vintage. Anything else in terms of athletically or otherwise that is worth keeping in the back of our minds. Yeah, I think that certainly. And I think that the profile shows up a little bit more for day three than it does for round one.

but I'm looking for like the, they use the word like guys that have those unique traits. I think that that's certainly coming up. Outside of that, it's like that toughness, that physicality,

that edge, that dog mentality, right? A lot of the guys they've taken since Sierra County gotten higher as the head coach have kind of fit that same profile. So I think that that's,

you're certainly looking there. We've talked about, you know, from title teams, got teams, that's a lot of success. That's a prevalent theme that has popped up.

Talk about character matters. like if they took Mike Green at 32 after the interview that how he did at the combine with Tom and Cher like I don't think that would not add up right that you wouldn't be able to do that so I just that there are certain things that they're not going to cross that bridge early in the draft you're doing this mock draft 30 visits can be predictive like you mentioned to me this goes back to some of the other conversations we've had some of these other general managers that have been entrenched for so long is that you're going to that their profiles are going to evolve and you have to take into account

skill fit, coaching fit. The coaches are extremely involved in Philadelphia with the pre-draft process. So I think you have to take all that into account. Malachi Stark's a reasonable? I mean, he might not even be there. Might not be fair. But does he strike you as a Howie guy and a Vic Van Gogh guy?

Definitely. I think he checks both boxes. You're talking about like from a profile standpoint, like from the Howie end of it, I think you're talking about it. He didn't test great, but like a young, productive leader, high character, everything there you feel good about. And schematically with Vic Van Bill, checks all the box. Did Tyler Booker strike you as a stout guy?

Yes. Like powerful people move guards. Now the one knock, I would say, for Tyler Booker, that he has been a guard only. Yeah. So that would be the knock in terms of the profile. But I think that he fit, like, if you feel great that he is going to step in and be that guy, then you are less worried about it. I mean, look, I'm digging into this a little bit, but like Chance Warmac.

You know, it was a guy that, A, played for Stout at Alabama, but also ended up playing for Stout here in Philly as well, was a guard only, but he was seen as an elite prospect. I think, you know, fit that bill. I'm going to give you a couple extra guys who have done the 30 visit. You don't think check those boxes. Josh Connerley Jr., you said before, has been dropping out of the first round in some mocks,

but talking 32 here. Right. I think that athletically, he does make sense. I mean, when I first watched him, and I didn't, I'm not super high. on Connerley. But when I first watched him, I compared him to Jack Driscoll. Yeah, a guy that obviously here with the Eagles. So I think when you're looking at Connolly, yeah, like I think he could make some sense. Nick Scorton? Yeah, I do because I think when you're looking at his play the run, I think he protects the box there.

This is a guy that wins with power, wins with force and strength. He can run off the top of the rush. He's a young player that's had peaks of production. So yeah, I think he would make some sense for both sides. Last one, Donovan Azaraku. I think Ezaku does make some sense. We talked yesterday on the show, on the PHLI Eagle show about some of my reservations with Eziraku, but I think when you get to 32, you get able to look past some of that

in terms of, well, like, is he a top end athlete for his size? He's a really skilled rusher. Do I want him and Nolan Smith on the field at the same time? There's probably some sameness there that I don't feel great about, but yeah, I think that he makes some sense. All right.

Walter Nolan certainly makes sense. Yes, but they just haven't brought him in. Correct. Okay. 131. I'm not bad. That's pretty good. Julia,

may not feel the same way, but I'm sorry, Julia. That's okay. All right, good stuff on the PHY Draft Show with Fran Duffy. That'll do it for it

this week's episode. We will be back next week. Maybe next week is when we do the double-dip episode. We do it Tuesday, Thursday. We'll talk about it. We'll get that plan. We're going to do one episode pre-draft

where we're just banging out your questions in the chat. Not about that. Not a mailbag, a chat bag. Distinction. But thank you to Fran for doing all that work, giving us a nice episode. We'll see how it all plays out

come 16 days from now in the first round of the NFL draft. That'll do it for this episode. Thanks for watching. We will talk to you next time on the P. H.LY draft show with Fran Duffin.