PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - NFL Brian Baldinger READY For Eagles Vs Browns. Goes Around The NFC

Episode Date: August 16, 2025

NFL Films' Brian Baldinger joins the Anthony Gargano show to talk about the Eagles vs. the Browns preseason game. Baldy highlights players he saw shine at the Eagles-Browns joint practices. Baldy also discusses the NFC and shares what he feels young players should be doing in the preseason to get in shape.   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Baldy. Now, good morning, guys. No, what it comes? G, how are you, man? Good. You know why you're the coolest is that yesterday practice, right, joint practice, and they're the boys, right? All the boys are getting together.

There's landed. He's got the cooler. And right away, tosses balding a beer, bawling rat, you know. That's why you're the coolest, man. You walk, you know, you have those circles. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's a good,

group, man. I mean, anybody that's watched Cleveland, I mean, I know the record has been good and haven't been a good, but you look inside at White Teller, Ethan Posick, Joel Betonio, Jack Conklin, they're good players, man. They've been good players for a long time. And they're just guys, you know.

And, you know, you put Landon and Lane and, you know, the other guys that were there. I mean, it's just a good session. It's good session. I mean, you know, Landon Dickerson can be, if you put a camera on Leonard Dickerson, it's a Netflix show. It just is. He can build anything.

His mind is agile. He's tougher than, you know, Texas shoe leather. Like, it's just, you know, he's just an entertaining cat, man. Like, Glane, he keeps slain yon young. You know what I mean? Oh, I love her.

Texas shoe. I'm sorry, I love that. That's a great line, man. You always have Zickers. What line was, what line hit you, because? Texas shoe leather. Oh, Texier. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, it's just, like he's just, you know, he's telling stories about Alabama.

Yeah. You know, you go back there. You know, he built a weight room out of just, you know, hey, just leave the barbells like on the back dock and leave the door open. I'll get it to my yard and I'll build a weight room so that the guys can come over and train because, you know, nobody was allowed in school. Like, you know, the guy's just, he's just next level, man. Yeah, I'm with you. Let me ask you question. a proposal because speaking of

weight rooms. So you all, you're a big proponent of the, of Lane's weight room. The barn. Yeah. Yeah. So here's my, here's my, if I go to Lane and I go, Lane, I got

Xfinity, we'll make it the Xfinity Barn. Right. We sponsor it. Do I, could I get Anthony in the barn? Hmm. Well, I don't do you need to you know, get Xfinity to sponsor. I mean, I think he would let little Ann in there to work out.

He's got his trainer. No, I know. But I think, you know, just because I think if I show respect that come hat and hand, like, you don't come empty handed. Well, no, I understand that part. I get that.

But, you know, Lane is, you know, Lane loves when people come over, you know, and train in the bar. Honestly. I need a spot over, like, I got my boy Joe. How about Joe? Aces. Joe.

Joe the trainer is one of the greatest, right? He does his speed work, but he's still got a lift. I didn't get the pump and the iron. I looked at the day. Well, they, you know, they made all of the equipment is homemade. All right. He's got a buddy in Oklahoma that made most of the equipment, like real steel, like an iron worker, you know?

And so, like, everything is made for heavyweight and big people. Like, you know, I mean, it's not like, you know, if you got a, If you got a double zero little, you know, Chika over there, she's probably not going to find the right, you know, barbell or something to work with. So it's made, it's made for big people.

The chica, I love it. All right. Let's get the business. All right, not a good two days for the birds in the joint practice. Let's go offense. What do you see? Man, when H.A. Brown's not in a passing game.

then it goes down a little bit. What did you see, buddy? Well, you know, look, I mean, he's one of the top three receivers in football. Right. So if you want to go AJ, Justin, Jamar, I mean, okay, CD, I mean, there's, I mean, he's an elite player.

So he's going to draw coverage. I mean, I was in the end zone when they're running a red zone drill. It didn't look very good yesterday. A lot of incompletions. But, you know, Cleveland plays, you know, you got Miles Garrett on one side, and he's like, he's tuned up now. all right like he wanted to you know his owners out there walking around like he put on a show

yesterday but uh you know so that's that's one part uh but they get you know they got some guys that can man you up now newsome and denzel ward i mean that's their specialty is man covering so if you're not making pinpoint passes and you know and separating like you're probably not going to find the end zone very often well i was told uh jalen got to get rid of ball man just holding all a little bit too long Listen, I watch Jalen in this drill. It kind of irritates me, all right? Well, I don't know if it irritates the right word, but I'm a little confused.

Like, I've seen him in scrimaging Miami a couple of years ago, and you're running a red zone drill, and he's holding it, and then he just, you know, he runs. I'm like, well, you can run any time. Make the throw. Make the throw. Even if there's tight coverage, like throw a guy. Like, he won't do that. Yeah. He won't make the throw.

But that's Jalen. Like, you know, that's why he average 21 passes a game the last 7. team games. Like he, you know, he's, he's either going to run it, take the sack, throw it away. But he's not going to, and he's going to extend the play, but he's not going to make a throw on time sometimes if he doesn't feel it's there. You can't argue because he took care of the football as well as anybody last year. But in that drill, I feel like that drill is designed to make the throw. Yeah. Now, listen, that's kind of what I heard out of the last two days. And, you know, if you're going to make him

if you're going to because there's some talk about you know opening up the offense a little bit more throwing right if you're going to do that well then he's got to make those throws yeah he does

I don't know the formula looked pretty good last year I know AJ Dylan AJ Dylan looks in shape and Shipley like they they've got a they've got a good group back there so you know Atlanta's going to get back I don't know if he's back ready for Cowboys

or the following week, I'm not sure, but he's going to be back in there. Like, Tyler Steen looks like he's ready to go. And these young guys are getting brought up to speed pretty quickly. That, Drew Kendall played a great game last weekend, last Thursday night. What else you see? I tell you one thing

on the other side of the ball. Wah! Jahat! Jahat's going to be a player. He's going to be a baller, Baldi. Well, you know, so if you take a guy that's 6-3 and he's 240 pounds and he runs to the low four or fives and he has instincts and he loves to hit, like he's going to be a factor. Like him and Zach together, like you can talk about trot and you can talk about all these other guys. I mean, it's his job. And they could be as good as anybody at that tandem right now, right now.

You can't take your eyes off number 30. But you just can't, you know. Because I've always said this. If your middle linebacker is fast, your defense looks fast. They got faster. So speed's important. Like just, you know, you're playing, you know, you're playing Jane Daniels and he wants to pull the ball. Like, you saw what happened to him last year at home.

Like, they flatten him on fourth down. Yeah. He couldn't turn the corner. He turned the corner on everybody else. Like, he's not going to turn a corner on Jehad Campbell if he's chasing him and flattening him to the island. He's going to run them right to the sideline. I mean, I'm really excited. Like the middle of that defense

between Jalen, right, Zach, Jihad, Coop. I mean, damn. Well, I mean, Jordan Davis looks better. Yeah. I mean, Jordan Davis is just massive in pads. We'll see if he could stay on the field this year. I mean,

that's his goal to get out there for 50% of the plays. But Jalen, he actually looks leaner. He just has that look on his face like at any point he could just make he could just snap on anybody at any he just has that look yeah like I saw him yesterday hey car come on he comes over and he's like like I don't know if he was going to like smack me or like if you wanted to like hug me I didn't know like you don't know what you can't read that guy but he's just going to react violently yeah like nobody else in his

business but Nolan Smith is ready to roll jail it's like they got like we'll see what Ushay and Oce Lari, some of these guys look like, but Ty Robinson, like, they're loaded. They're loaded up front. Yeah. Now, the trouble spot is in the corner, in the secondary. You got to figure out where you want to play coop, right?

That's a classic baldy eye roll. Yeah. Like, he'd know, like, listen, you know, because here's the deal. Like, you got coop. You can't clone coop. So you've got to figure out in base, you know he's going to be at safety.

But you want him in nickel. all right or I mean, do you keep them at safety? You got issues, man. Like, who's going to win that outside corner spot? Well, I mean, look, they play the Cowboys first week. I mean, you see these right in the slot. Like, you'd love to have Cooper and they're just not letting them get off the line of scrimmage.

Yeah. You know, I mean, you know, you're playing teams with tight ends that are flexed and they're in that slot. Like, he's going to jam them right at the line. Like, you know, I think that's his natural position. Most teams are in a three wide receiver set or two. Two receivers in a tight end, who's flex, Kelsey, whatever. So, you know, they got Kansas City week two.

I mean, you kind of like to see him just jamming Kelsey and not letting him get off the line of scrimmage. Look, I mean, they drafted. They traded for Jacori and Bennett for a reason. I mean, the guy came out of Maryland, and he ran into four threes. Like, he hasn't been a great player, but he's got skills and he can run. So there looks to be an open competition at one of the corners, right? right now. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm hoping that Bennett, because he, it doesn't look good. And then the other issue, what I hear about McCuba, and we just talked to E.J., I mean, it's kind of the same thing.

Like, first of all, Sidney Brown's really more of a box safety. And, you know, McCuba, he said, listen, he's got coverage chops, but guys are catching balls over them. And these, these tight ends, man, you know, bigger than. Well, we saw in Joku, he has to say, catch a red zone touchdown. I mean, I mean, that throw was by, you know, Dylan Gabriel and it was like that they couldn't cover them. So it's like the safety position, obviously the Eagles have been drafting them. It doesn't mean that they're going to be great players. I mean, we can't really know until you actually play real games because if you make mistakes on the back end, you give up touchdowns. That's what they did two years ago when they gave up 35 passing touchdowns.

Like the back end was horrible. Now, it was much better last year with Chauncey and Reed and the whole group. But, you know, that is a position that everybody is nervous about in this league. And so if you miss tackles, you give up big runs, big plays. If you blow coverages, you give up touchdowns. So it is a position where, you know, you've got to make sure you've got dependable people back there and are communicating with everybody back there. It's not easy. and you can't just throw draft picks at that position.

Very few of them come in here and just are ready to play day one. Yeah, yeah. No, I, listen, I feel you. I feel you. All right. One last thing on the Eagles. So tomorrow, one o'clock game, are you going to, you're going to NFL network, right? You're going back to L.A. today?

I'm flying out there today. Yeah. By the way, by the way, not because I'm working for the network. It was the highest rated opening preseason game. preseason weekend we've ever had. Ever. Yeah. Like the, the, the anticipation.

Totally. And the thirst for football in this country. And we keep saying, like, can it keep growing? Yes. It's never been higher than it is right now. You know what's so funny is I was upset. There was no game last night. Like.

Yeah, right. I was surprised they didn't have Thursday night football last night. I mean, honestly. I don't know about you. I mean, you live. of it, right? But normally, listen, I put it in perspective, but it was highly entertaining.

Like, it was actually a great preseason weekend. Like, I actually enjoyed the game. Yes. No, no. I mean, a lot of these games came down to the wire and, you know, you watch New Orleans trying to find a quarterback. Guy throws a pick six on one play. Yeah. Comes right down the field and throws a 54-yard touchdown to Mason Tipton on the next series.

Like, you bounce right back. So that's what you, so in every game, I saw, and I watched most of them, like there was something that drew my attention. Yes. That could capture anybody's attention. Yes. I was texting you.

I was bugging. I'm watching again. I'm bugging boldly while it doesn't work. The opener trashed NBA finals rating wise. That trashed the NBA finals. The freaking preseason NFL opener. Is that right? Is that true?

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. By millions. It was, we have four games. We have four games on the NFL network on Saturday. I know, I get wall-to-wall ball just on the end of,

now you can go find some of the other games, but you got four games on Saturday, wall-to-wall ball. Yeah. The viewing, I mean, the viewership, like he's saying, it's unbelievable. It's insane, man. It's insane.

It's incredible. What do you expect? Now, you have to join practices. What do you think about the game itself? Like, so you're going to see, uh, because you're going to see Tanner, my guess is for another half a change.

And then, I guess, you know, the Browns are going to go with Gabriel because Shadour can't play. So a lot of Gabriel tomorrow. Flacco got a lot of work. I saw Joe and his family after, after practice, got his five kids, his wife out there. He had like six, over almost 70% of all the snaps.

Yeah, he won't. You'll put him in bubble wrap for tomorrow. I mean, maybe a series, but I don't think so. I think you're going to see, Dylan. This is the chance for him to shine. I mean, Shadour got hurt in a weight room, and then he hurt himself, you know, even worse throwing a ball like he's done.

He's in bubble wrap for sure. Like you're tearing a bleak muscle or just stretching a bleak muscle. Yeah. Like there's very little you can do. I mean, that thing, there's nothing you can do. I mean, it just heals on its own whenever it heals. So he's going to be down. So it's unfortunate, but it's going to, you know,

I saw Dylan Gabriel make some good, like, I just think he's too small, but I saw him make a number of good throws yesterday. And so, you know, the ball comes out. He throws a tight spiral. He's accurate. I played a lot of college football. Like, I'm anxious to see what he does. But, you know, like, you know, we saw this kid, Cooper, you know, number 41, like, lighted up last week.

Got some great releases. I know it's pretty serious. I was going to ask you about him. I love that kid. Charlton State. I love him. He's legit, man. Well, I don't know if he is or not.

But he kind of, there's things about him. Like, he's not as big as A.J. Brown. I'm not comparing him to A.J. Brown. But AJ's got these. releases that are crazy good. This kid's got great feet. He caught everything with his hands. He separated on the touchdown.

He made a lot of big plays last week. Johnny Wilson, you know, we know he's six foot seven. He went up and got a bunch, played a lot of tall ball with Tanner last week. Had three big catches between them. Kind of want to see what some of these guys might be able to do. Cooper makes the roster. Okay. I mean, I don't know if he does or not.

He makes a rock squad. I don't, you know, I'm not sure yet. I mean, it can't hurt to have a good game against a team that's going to play a lot of press coverage. Yeah. You know, like, look, this Miles Hinton, I told Stout yesterday. Like, I played with his dad in Indiana. This dad was the single most, the single most talented player ever, alignment ever played with Chris Hinton. And he was involved in the L-Way trade back in 83.

Yeah, he was a great player. But he's got two sons in the league. He's got one as a defense line. But this Miles Hinton, they tell me, like, this guy can play left tackle in this league. you know and so you know drew kindle his dad p kentle played in this league for a long 13 years he played great the other night like it's it's just unusual like matt prior gets drafted by the eagles he plays here he goes to indy he goes to san francisco he starts for chicago last year he's back like they don't they don't care they'll take him back like he can still play swing tackle swing

guard you know he's 680s 345 you like he's just you can't hurt him never gets hurt Like, he's just, he's indestructible. Like, they just keep developing these guys, like nobody else. All right. Let's go quickly, division. Week two preseason as we sit here, anything you are hearing about the rest of the division? Well, look, I mean, Caleb's going to play. Caleb's going to play.

Like, I just think all these quarterbacks have to play. Like, I don't, you're not going to get better. You're not, mental reps are nonsense. Like, you've got to play. So I'm excited to see Caleb. you know, because I believe in Caleb, and the reports are mixed, but Ben Johnson coach is hard.

At a hard camp, like he's giving him a lot. There's a lot of verbiage in, you know, in calling and play in Chicago, but it's been a very, it's been the number one offensive football. So,

though, he's digesting it. I want to see Caleb. Don't you have to, isn't this kind of like a second rookie year for Caleb? Like, you almost had to break him.

Because when he did at USC, like he's got a great, a lot of talent, man. He can throw the ball. can spin it. A lot of things he does he love. But, you know, that joystick

game he played in college, you've got to break him at that. Yeah, you do. And, you know, last year it was a disaster, the coach was a joke. Right. The offensive coordinator. Like, it was just, it was, the offense has made no sense. It used to disturb me. Literally, I'd get disturbed watching it.

And, and so that didn't help, Kail. But, you know, you get to sack 68 times and you're, you know, you're taking off too soon because you think you have, you know, they've addressed all the weaknesses in the offense. So they got two good tight ends. They got a better offensive line. They got a competition in left out.

Like, he should be better, period. But let's just, let's, you know, they saw, I saw Tyson Bayesian take the team down on 16 play drive, 94 yards through a beautiful touchdown pass. The coach was raving about him. And, you know, everybody that's watched Tyson, they know he can play. So, you know, they're like, you're kind of juicing them up here a little bit, like, go play better than Tyson this week. But, you know, the Cowboys got to play their offensive line.

minus Tyler Guyton. They better start getting that thing together because they looked, Joe Milton couldn't complete a pass in the first quarter and a half last week. And I know DAC wasn't in there, but their offense lines got to play better. They need to play. So I'm just going to go around the league. Like, you're going to see a lot of teams, you know, when it was a four game preseason, teams would play their starters in the third one most.

Like, I think that's what you're going to see this weekend. So you should see a lot of starters around the league out there this week. Yeah, this should be an interesting week compared to the next week. to get shut down. That next week will be no good. This is like he said that week three. I'm on. I'm locked in all weekend. There's a phrase

that people used to use for this. And it used to drive me, it still drives me up. They go, this is the dress rehearsal. I'm like, if you want to go to, you know, go watch a play on Broadway, you have dress rehearsals. You step between the lines here. There's no dress

rehearsals. Like, people are taking their heads off. There is no dress rehearsal and football. I love the UFD. I know you like that. I hear people use that phrase and it drives me nuts. Like, no, this is not, this not, we're not putting a Broadway play on here. This is football.

Like, you better take it serious. That's it, baby. Take it serious. All right. Do me a favor. You got anything for ball before I give him? He's got to break some. He's got to break some, uh, uh, arguments.

All right. Okay. I got some arguments going on. All right. Number one, I get a lot of heat because I stand up for the charges. Like, I don't even care about the charges. But they all hate hardball. And I'm like, the guy's a great coach.

He's a great coach. He won at Michigan. He won. He's going to win with the charges. He's just his. They kill Herbert. And it's like he had a horrible coach pre-haar. hardball. He had basically

one receiver last year. I mean, let the kid, give the kid a real shot because I think the kid's got talent. He does have talent. He's got incredible talent. You know, he needs to run more. He's a great runner. When he won a Rose Bowl at Oregon, like he was the MVP because of his ability to

run. And they ran him some last year. But I believe in Jim Harbaugh, man, that guy's a great. He's just his energy level and what he does for a player, like their defense was as soft as any charm in defense in football for the past few years. Brandon Staley, like there was a joke there.

They were the number one scoring defensive football last year. They tackled like crazy. They played two rookie corners, and they had the number one defensive football. Diane Henley is an animal at middle linebacker. Like Derwin James never played better than he did last year. Like, Derek Harbaal knows how to coach, man. He just knows how to motivate. Is a guy?

Yeah. I still don't. They won 11 games. They won 11 freaking games. Everybody hates him. He's not a likable guy. I don't know what it is. He's a football coach.

Maybe it's the khakis. It's the who's got it better than the hardballs? Nobody. I mean, people don't like that stuff. It doesn't play well in the public realm. He seems like a Jay-O. Listen, listen, Vegee, let me tell you something. We need coaches who have personalities.

This thing used to be driven by budget. Ryan, you know, by Mike Ditka. It used to be driven by personalities. Parcell. And now it just got to the point where we just got these, these, uh, blanched coordinators calling plays. Like it makes, like, we need guys that will stand up in a podium and just say things that people don't like.

You know, Bill Parcells could be the most likable guy and the most despised person in the same day. Yeah. In the same press conference. Yeah. Like, you know, you just need guys that want to prick you. you know, challenge you, challenge you to do your homework.

Like, no, I love that guy, man. We need him. I'm not looking to get pricked. Especially not by a hardball. I mean, one of the odds, I mean, they're both so successful. I mean, you got to respect him. I'm not saying he's a bad code.

He won at the University of San Diego. You know what the number one course in San Diego is? Frisbee throwing. Like, they're throwing frisbee's out there in San Diego. He won that that place. They don't have any players. They're playing golf and Frisbee at San Diego. And he won there.

All right. So let me ask you about Herbert because even in the chat, they're going off. They bring him up and the chat, Ritzby, H.H. They say he's got talent, but he chokes in big games, big situations. How many big games is he played in? Well, maybe it's because he doesn't, maybe because he's not a good quarterback. I don't know. I know.

I saw him down 27-0 against Jacksonville and came back. and won the game, you know, two years ago. A little like people think he's, people put him in the upper echelon of quarterbacks and he hasn't really, he hasn't played up to that level. Well, I mean, the quarterback is, like, if you put him in the Eagles offense, like Justin Herbert might throw for 5,000 yards. They might throw it 70% of the time. That guy, when you just sometimes, I mean, I know Cuzz loves watching quarterbacks,

but if there's some guys in this league, if you just watch them warm up, you're like, that town's different than everybody else. Well, the tail is good. Like, his ability to throw a football. Like, he threw three interceptions the whole season last year. You know, I mean, like, one really good receiver. Like, if you look at, if you look at Quentin Johnston,

you look at Quentin Johnston, the guy's got hands like feet. He dropped. Like, it's like, feet. They are. Pizza board hands. Goes flat. They had one religion receiver last year, Ladd-McConkey. That was it, man.

Thank you. I mean, he's great, but he may not. He may not be able to handle the pressure. What do you know? He had one year with Harbaugh. Give him the break. Hey man, I'm just being a mouthpiece for the people. But respect the game.

You guys love the sport. You're going to great fans. Respect the game. There you go. Big Farts Jones, the Chargers of the Cowboys, unsirious joke novelty franchise. This is what I... Well, you can say that.

You can say that about the Cowboys. They did win 12 games in a row, three years in a row. You know, I mean, And when Dan Quinn was taking the ball away, the most in the NFL over three-year stretch, and DAC was the number one quarterback football, you can say they're a joke because of what they've done in the postseason. And that's fair. But you win 12 games in a row, three years in a row.

Like, that was unmatched during that three-year stretch. Now, it fell apart. Dak got hurt. You know, everybody got hurt. Overshillen got hurt. Micah got hurt last year. If you took Jalen out, if you took Jalen Carter out, and if you took, I don't know, you took Quinyon out of the Eagles lineup.

And AJ, like, they'd fall apart too. Yeah, I, I, I'm with you, man. I, again, I just, it's just not about anything other than, because they're benign franchise. I don't know why there's eight. That's all, that's your reason why I bring it up. Dude, the Kelsey podcast, right, with Taylor Swift. Yeah. It's, it's going to be the biggest podcast of all time.

It's, I believe, of you. views are going to break their all. Jason was, Jason was talking about yesterday. Yeah. Tell us. He said that, evidently,

I don't know if this is true or not, but it like broke the internet. It shut it down for a while. It like crashed. It crashed, but it, the initial views like Trump on Rogan, active watchers,

like when it aired, it trashed that. Like that was the, they had over a million people when it went live. I mean, that's unbelievable. See,

Like, whatever you want to say, love, hate, whatever, it's unbelievable the amount of people. Yeah, but think about it. Think about it. It's literally the culmination of the entertainment world coming together. Right. The biggest, you know, performer in the world. Right. Okay.

Coming together with Travis on the best franchise in the most popular sport in the world and Jason, a personality. It's all coming together. And so there's only a couple people in the whole world that could unite that could create that type of buzz. Yeah, that's wild. Just the sheer number of people. Whatever you think of it, you go, that's just impressive. No, but like, you know, and people like are questioning why, you know, I don't know, terrestrial radio or television is dying. Because we'll never be able to, outside of football, which will be,

48 of the top 50 television shows this year, and maybe all 50. Like, there's only a couple things that can actually unite people together. Like, TV can't do that anymore. And so it's all splintered, and it's going to these type of, you know, these type of... Listen, this is why we do this. One else. I'm saying. You know, we're going to launch. So yesterday we had the Matt Rule.

We taped the Matt Rule show. Not a ball. Your ears should have been ringing because... Well, it was. It was funny because... you know, what's Matt's little guy the PR director? Sean. Well, he was at practice yesterday. He told me.

Okay, yeah. So, you know, I was checking in on Matt with them. Yeah. But obviously, Ty Robinson is his guy. Yes. You know? And so, yeah, but I felt like, I felt the ears ringing. Yeah, when I saw him. Because we shot it. Yeah, Sean, it was funny. Sean, they hit me up. I saw a ball there.

I was in practice today. And then Matt and I were doing the show and we were telling me locker stories, how I used to pick him up. quarter to five in front of it he would be on his step he lived in society hill right right or no the other side of broad street like towards the written house he would he'd be on the pre had the daily news he'd be on the step wait for me to pick him up we'd be at the night before baldy drinking beers and everything and then pick him up sure enough they'd ball to show up coffee

picky right and that we have our meat locker it was yeah yeah how much fun was that well he It was great because Matt really, you know, if you're a prominent coach at either the NFL or the college level like Matt has been, you turn programs around. You have to be able to communicate in ways that is more than just way far more than just exos. You have to be entertaining. You have to know, like you have to know, you have to know, you never know what you're going to draw from to motivate your team or what your message is going to be. Because you can't give the same stale message to your team. You're constantly trying to innovate, create, and give them a different message to get the same juice out of them.

So Matt has that ability to do it with the best of them. Yeah. Yeah. It's the truth. All right. Last thing. Birthdays. Like, we're on this topic of birthdays.

So Andrew, our five producer, we love him. But Andrew's birthday was last weekend, right? Yeah. He took off Friday and he took off Monday for a Saturday birthday. All right. And he, it was incessant talking about it's my birthday week. It's my birthday month. That's what teenage girls do.

Teenage girls do that. What in the world? I got us to God. And he didn't go anywhere. He stayed local. He stayed local. Stop it, Andrew. Stop it, man.

He's turning 33. I say, listen, all right? Like, if you got a birthday, after 21 and you're a dude, you get the even numbers to actually go celebrate. Go out with your boys, tie one on. You get the 30, 40, 50, 50, 60, 70, until you're dead, right?

That's it. Well, here's the thing is that I just had this discussion with the girl the other day about birthdays. And I'm like, I'm not anti-birthday. It's just that I feel like I'm celebrating every day of my life. to begin with. Why do I need a special day just because I was born on that day? Like January 7th, all right, it's a good day. I turn another year older. So what? Like January 6th, I'm, you know, I'm already doing something. It's a playoffs. I'm already doing something that I

absolutely love to do. So, like, like, do I need a special day when you're my age? Like, every day feels special. Right. Two days weekend, Friday and Monday. Yeah, two days. Like I said, teenage girls I mean, it's my birthday He got on the links He got out of my links Yeah, let's play golf, come on You know, how to get out there.

Yeah, no, thank you. I just need, because listen, we got to guide them. I mean, it's not fair. We can't expect them to act right if you don't tell them what to do. Yeah, yeah, well, no, no, you have to like, give them the guidelines.

Yeah. Like, this is not tolerated, it's not tolerated behavior. No. Birthdays for children. All right. That's it. Yeah.

Blow out candles. Invite a bunch of kids over. You know, go play, you know, the frisbee in the backyard. You know, go play some T-ball or something. Great. Take them to a little, you know, play land's place. Yeah. Honestly, God, like, we play golf anytime.

You don't need a birthday to go play golf. I agree with that. Golf anytime. Right? I know you do. You don't celebrate your birthday. It's my birthday, mom. No, I think it's just.

I didn't do birthday. months. You did birthday week. It's my birthday week. Birthday week. I heard about your birthday for a month. You threw it on Instagram. It was Jalen Hurst birthday.

You're like, oh, fellow Leo, my birthday is tomorrow. He's getting into the signs. That's going to do that. That's violation. Can I ask you one question with the boys of the bar real quick? Real question. I got boys at the bar. I want to know from you, Baldi.

Yeah. Salon may be the best O-line coach ever, but why can't other teams seem to come anywhere close to being able to get replacement O-line people to play as well? Is it something he connects? better with his players or drills techniques. What's he doing that other people aren't? Good question.

He drills differently than everybody else. He's the only coach in the NFL that trains his players game day on the field, starters and backups and practice squad players. Like they get a full days of working. So that's one. Number two, he has a way to just get underneath your skin to get the best out of you. Like he just has these things that like, To this day, Lane Johnson, like he still hears this voice in his head, you know, 13 years later.

And he's been in a stable situation. But Bill Callahan's a great coach. You know, I mean, he's in Tennessee right now. There's a couple guys. But I think Stout's the best because there's three things you've got to be able to do. You've got to be able to develop young players, which he does as well as anybody. Jordan Malata is a prime example. number two, you've got to be able to figure out how to play together.

So you individually develop players. Two, you bring camaraderie together and create this unity, this brotherhood. And then number three, you've got to fix things game day when things aren't working. Like whether it's protection, how the hell to get to the Mike linebacker, like how are we getting a Bobby Wagner this week in this run game? You've got to, like some days, game day, like you're all covered up. You can't get to it. well, let's figure out how to get there. Like, you've got to be able to just on the fly in the game.

And he's a master at all three. And I think just the way players talk about, and football is football, right? There's coaches, there's different formations and different philosophy. But those guys, everyone talks about them. They truly love him and want to run through a wall from. I think that connection he has with the players is something that's like an intent. Well, just look at Mackay Beckton.

Like, he's not even on the field with the charges right now. And he played as well as any guard in football last year. and that was because of the camaraderie and because of Stoutland and he's not doing that with the charges right now He's not even practicing right now Yeah, that's crazy Back to being his old Mackay self Wow

Well it's from the bar coming up big By the way, breaking news Michigan for the sign stealing thing Could find more than $20 million And Sharon Moore Is Sharon Moore is Surrown Moore is going to be suspended For a game in 2026

20 million? Yeah, cool, sir, anyway that's the, that's just kidding. Where does that money go? Yeah, good question. It's the truth. Like, you know, the NFL goes to NFL charities. Right.

Well, where's that money go in college? When you got fined. Did you get a write-off? When you got fined? What's that? Did you get a write-off when you got fined? I only got fined one time in my life. So I was joining a fight.

I didn't write it off and there was enough money to write off. Right. Just going to fight on the field and they find me. That was it. That's cool. That was a good fight. fight? It was you know, it was Cowboys and Redskins,

you know, it was a good fight. Yeah, that's good. We're trying to protect our quarterback. Speaking of the fight, it's the best thing in the world. Charlie Manuel was on the other day, right? Yeah. You know, talk about a meat, right? So Charlie, Charlie said, I said, dude, I said, do you ever have any slump busters?

Like, you're in a slump. What would you do? I can just imagine what Charlie said. You just imagine. You want to take a kid? Do you have it? You have the cut? No, but I could just imagine Charlie's probably like, go to the bar. Yeah.

He said, I can just imagine. He goes, I get drunk. And then I would punch somebody to see if I could still hit. Start fights. Yeah, all right. He's a dude. He's a dude. He's a dude.

He's a dude. That's fantastic. My brother, you're the greatest. We love you, buddy. Safe to travel. Have a great weekend. We'll see you next week. Talk to you guys next week.

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