PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - Nick Sirianni opts to rest Saquon Barkley & Philadelphia Eagles stars with eyes on the playoffs

Episode Date: January 2, 2025

There will be no rushing record for Saquon Barkley, Jordan Mailata, Lane Johnson and the Eagles’ offensive line. Nick Sirianni announced that he plans to rest Barkley and the team’s key starters i...n the regular season finale with the No. 2 seed locked up and the team needing its first rest since the Week 5 bye. That means more Tanner McKee, more Jahan Dotson and a whole lot more Darrian Kinnard for the real sickos.Join Fran Duffy, Zach Berman and Bo Wulf on the PHLY Eagles show as they react to Sirianni’s decision, run through the roster ahead of the playoffs and close out the regular season of Swooper. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:05 Hello everyone to the PHY Eagles podcast, new year, new beats. We are here on behalf of Bet365. Download the Bet365 app and the use code PHLY365 when you sign up. Whatever the moment, it's never ordinary at Bet365. We have a lot to talk about today. No show yesterday. That means we have not yet discussed Nick Siriani's decision to thumb his nose at the NFL record book and decide that Saekwon Barkley and the rest of the key Eagle starters,
Starting point is 00:00:37 will not play this Sunday as they are locked into the two seed. We've got Pro Bowl announcements. We've got Fran's scouting report on the Philadelphia Eagles, which is up now on all pHLY.com. We've got Swooper. We've got some other stuff. We've got you in the chat. We've got our Pro Bowl Eagles insider, Zach Berman,
Starting point is 00:00:57 and Fran Duffy next to him as well. How are you guys doing? Happy New Year. Let's make it the best year yet, Zach. That's a great plan. That should be the objective. Thrill to be here, excited for the show. Excited for the year ahead.
Starting point is 00:01:09 All right. Well, let's dive right into this bad boy, Zach. Take us through how things went yesterday at the Novacare Complex, how those decisions were made and the reaction in the locker room. Yeah, the headline is, as you mentioned, the starters or the key starters will not play in this game. That includes Seekwon Berkeley. So Saquan Barclay's bid to break Eric Dickerson's record ends 101-yard short,
Starting point is 00:01:33 or 100-yard short of Dickerson, 101-yard short of the record. He finishes the season with 2005 yards. I read otherwise. There's a piece of fiction up on our website that you can read. How dare you? I mean, it clearly is fiction. That's not how there you. Can I ask you something?
Starting point is 00:01:50 Was that related to the I want to read more fiction New Year's resolution for earlier this week? No, but it was I asked, I told Zach he should write it and he didn't want to write it. He only writes nonfiction, so I wrote it. As soon as I saw it, I read it and I was like, this has to be what Bo was referring to when he said he wanted to read more fiction. Now, you obviously didn't read it, right? Of course I read it, yeah. Oh, but so you read some fiction. I read everything you're right.
Starting point is 00:02:13 But when I read the rough draft, you had a little thing up above it being like since no one else is writing this. And then that didn't appear in the final draft. So no one, I think that line would have been helpful. So people knew what it was. No, I purposely took that out. I know I realized you purposely took it out. But it's like you have to be in on the joke, understand what's going on here. Can I say something seriously? Yeah. Don't ever read a rough
Starting point is 00:02:40 draft of mine ever again. That feels incredibly invasive. Okay. If it is not published, it is private. Don't go clicking around my WordPress. That's that is that is such an invasion of privacy. Don't you have enough things to read to read. I didn't know what it was. I thought I was I was I I saw something without a title in our thing. He doesn't have a title. Don't click on it. That's like a workbook. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:14 I actually write in a word processor and then I copy and paste it over. You write in the WordPress. I realize that now. Okay. Anyways, let's get to the news. I feel violated. We're never moving on to this. So Nick Siriani spoke with players on the team, including
Starting point is 00:03:34 Sequin Barclay spoke with... Imagine like an artist in the middle of crafting their thing and some other person comes in and judges it based on... It says it's a working document. It's not done yet. Well, number one, it's like a training camp practice that one can watch. Like, you're doing it in the system that we all have access to. That's not public.
Starting point is 00:04:03 That's not open to the public. public. Then do it on Google. Oh, I should know in the back of my mind that you're clicking around everybody's stories in progress? If I see, I mean, respectfully, if I see something in the Eagles section, you know, I'm wondering, is this here accidentally? Like, you want to see what it is. I tend to know. You can text me. I didn't know what, so I opened it. And then I didn't read the whole thing through. I just saw
Starting point is 00:04:29 at the top what it because I saw the top since no one else is writing this. And then I was Oh, this is what he's doing. I brought that up because you didn't indicate anywhere in there. I think it's better that way. Okay. Okay. So, Nick Siriani. People think this is a bit.
Starting point is 00:04:45 I actually don't think this is a bit. Oh, no, I absolutely feel violated about that. Okay. Nick Siri. If I have not hit the publish button, that is for nobody to read. Okay. All right. Nick Siriani spoke with Seekwant Barclay, spoke with veterans on the team,
Starting point is 00:05:03 spoke with obviously Howie Roseman, him and Hallie were doing this together. Other assistant coaches, even Jeffrey Lorry. They made the determination that the Eagles are going with rest here. They are resting their key players. As Lane Johnson said, it also avoids injury. Lane kept referring to what happened to A.J. Brown last year as an example. But so that happened. The players were informed yesterday morning.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Nick Siriani informs the media, the public shortly thereafter. then in the locker room afterwards, you get reaction, including from Seekwon Barclay. And I thought Seyquan's reaction was honest. You were there front and center. Sequin, he said he's come to peace with this, but he said when he went to sleep on Sunday night, it wasn't a big deal to him. On Monday, it was a big deal to him. Not a big deal, but it changed his mind. On Sunday, he said he didn't really care about it.
Starting point is 00:05:57 And then on Monday, he decided, you know what, if we're going to go for it, I'm excited about that. Yeah. Yeah. And I thought it was... I thought that was honest. I thought that was... I appreciated that. Exactly. He said he's on board with this. He said to a question that Bo asked that he didn't sign here to break Eric... He told his family this. He didn't sign here to break Eric Dickerson's record. He signed here to win his Super Bowl. That said, I thought it was... It was interesting when he was speaking about...
Starting point is 00:06:25 This might have been a question you asked about who took it the hardest in his family. And he said his father. He said he... he definitely wanted me to play selfishly for him. You got to think about it for however long, if it took a year for someone to break it or another 40 to 50 years, our last name would have been attached to that, which I thought is a very poignant sentiment.
Starting point is 00:06:44 And then he spoke a lot about the different players on the list. Like he was actually, you know, I have a piece that came out yesterday on his, I teased it too often on the show, but his appreciation for the history of running backs. And I thought that came through in how he was speaking yesterday because he even said, no disrespect Eric Dickerson, but like what he, the record he really think,
Starting point is 00:07:10 or the stats he thinks he was walking a tightrope, but you could tell he was like, the Dickerson record is nice, it's there, but it's not the most impressive season. Yeah, he said O.J. Simpson, because it was done in 14 games, and Barry Sanders is the yards per carry.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Which as you chronicled on all pH, Y for the diehards, Sequin Barkley, very clearly someone who is like well versed and has thought a lot about. running back history. Exactly. And that was, that was apparent throughout what he was saying. Like, like there was, there was one point where I said, no one has done this twice or, or I guess, rushed for 2,000 yards twice. Does it occur to you that you might not have this opportunity again? And he, he knew exactly how many yards Derek Henry needs to catch up to him. He actually
Starting point is 00:07:52 spoke to Derek Henry yesterday. Okay. Derek Henry wanted to see if he was playing. He told Derek Henry, you know, go make history here. But Barclay's like, why can't he be the first guy to do it, being him, him, Sequin? So yeah, so the one sentence summation, and you were right there front and center, so correct me if I interpret this incorrectly, is that it certainly seems like he would have loved to break that record, but that he understands intellectually, logically, why they're doing this. Yeah, I think that's right. He was also asked about, like, physically, how was he holding up?
Starting point is 00:08:26 He said like his body doesn't feel like he's run for 2,000 yards. He would not be, he doesn't need the rest necessarily. No. And you know, the egos have their own data on his body and stuff like that. And obviously, as we talked about, it's not just Sequin. It's you're not exposing him. You're exposing everybody else who has to play in order to get him ready for the record. I do.
Starting point is 00:08:48 It's a little bit disappointing just from a romantic standpoint. But I do think it is the sort of. sober decision. And I think, I think Lane Johnson was, was very good on this. Like, you know, Lane has been here for a lot of things, a lot of like great teams, a lot of bad teams, a lot of like individual accolades. And he seemed to me unbothered by the idea. He's like, you know, you know, Barry Sanders could have had many more yards if he had run more times. Like, I'm not going to lose sleep over, over the record. Now, that's not the guy who, as you said, is going to have his name, his family name,
Starting point is 00:09:26 atop that list forever. But I think, I was happy that Sequin was honest enough about it. I don't think that he is like, he's upset about this, but it's interesting. And obviously, like what they do in the playoffs is gonna reframe this decision somehow.
Starting point is 00:09:45 No, I actually was taken aback by how much anger there was too with like the fan base. Like I feel like there was a lot of the responses. There was a lot of people that were saying, Hey, like, this was the smart decision. And a lot of people, like, they better win a parade. They better win a trophy off this. And I'm like, man, like, to me, I kind of go.
Starting point is 00:10:04 I know Dana is always kind of lean. So he's much more interested in just the team-oriented goal side of it. And as a fan, like, rooting for the individual accolade. He kind of gets detached from that. But I was surprised by some of the anger and the vitriol that came from this decision as well. Yeah, I understand it. And I like, I get why they're doing the decision.
Starting point is 00:10:25 I mean, they're making, you said the silver one. You can say the sensible one, the logical one. Yeah. I will kind of conflate this or bring this in with also the Pro Bowl conversation, which is, you know, there's this pushback always where it's like, well, the Pro Bowl doesn't really matter or like these individual records don't really matter. And I think when you do that, sometimes you lose the human element of it. Like, it matters to the, it matters to Saquan.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Like the Pro Bowl has its flaws. Of course, it matters to these guys. Like you see the videos of like, you know, Zay Flowers and something. It matters to these people, right? And I think that, you know, I thought Sequin had a really cool answer when you asked him about doing against the Giants. I thought so too. Yeah, Bill had a lot of good questions yesterday. I was in a good position.
Starting point is 00:11:16 And you ask good questions, too. It's not just being there. It's taking advantage of being there. There's a lot of people who are front and center who like didn't ask questions. Shots fired. No, no, no. No, it's the nature of when someone's by their locker, there's a lot of cameras. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:31 I do. I have to say, I was trying to get you to get that spot. I was trying to save a spot for you to get front seven. But it got too crowded. The challenge for me is I really value eye contact. That's why I was trying to get you there. And you can't have eye contact when you're poking around. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:48 But anyways, his answer to the Giants thing was that, it would have meant a lot but not for the reason that is framed in the media because because there's a lot of people on that sideline from trainers and coaches and other stuff who have helped him get to where he is today like you know worked hard through his ACL recovery he said he he took them through the ringer and so it's like that would have made it full circle for him and that's the point that that i'm trying to convey here is it's not just the name in a record book it's it's like what it takes to get there for these guys. You know, if you're Saquan Barclay and everything you've been through
Starting point is 00:12:29 for, you know, the last three decades of your life, you know, two plus decades. But in addition to that, you just think about your NFL career and this roller coaster that he's been on and tearing the ACL in these underperforming seasons and everything that happened with the franchise tag and free agency. And like to be in this spot, it's rewarding. Like to have that opportunity, it's like you,
Starting point is 00:12:52 earned it. That's the thing. No one gives you that rushing record. You earn it. And so I from a human level, like I get it. And as you said, I approve as as both you said, I appreciated the honesty because like I think there is something
Starting point is 00:13:08 revealing about that. Yeah, I also think that we've tried to frame it as like, well, you know, it's not just Sequan's award. Like this is the Offensive Lines Award and Milta had talked about that. I think that's wrong. Like as history watches things away, Like those guys can take pride of that, but it's like it's Sequin Barclay's record.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Now, my question to you is, do you think that the reaction of the fan base would have been any different if the Eagles had not yet won a Super Bowl? Good question. No. No, I don't. I think there might be a little bit more you have to do whatever it takes to win the Super Bowl because we've never done it. Like, you know, a little bit more in service of that. I got to say, I think like the and maybe this is unfair but I do think with the fan base
Starting point is 00:13:58 it's like the statute of limitations of that 2017 Super Bowl expired right? I think in some ways but I don't think it always you know there will never be another first like sure I mean that's just that's just the truth right
Starting point is 00:14:13 and you're thinking about all the all like your family members who have passed away who were like we're waiting for this moment forever Like that's not, that's not going to happen again. And so I, now that they've done it, I feel like maybe the, like wanting to hang the, hang the Russian record banner is a little bit more of an interesting thing. But I also think that like this, right now, we think that the story of this Eagle season looking back is going to be this Seekuan Berkeley, unbelievable season, right, this breakout season. I think we have to remember that like everything we think about this season. season is about to get completely cast aside and the entire story of the Eagles 24 season
Starting point is 00:14:56 is going to be rewritten by whatever they do in the playoffs. That's what everybody's going to remember, right? And so to wipe the slate clean themselves, to prepare for that, I think it makes sense. Yes and no. And I say yes and no because, look, we are the P. H.LY Eagles show. We do this show for Eagles fans. It would surprise. It would surprise you. It would surprise me if there's like diehard dolphins fans who tune in every day for the show, right? That would be deranged, yeah. So our frame of reference is often the frame of reference of us, our viewers and listeners, and the people we see every day.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Saquan Barclay's record transcends that. So Saquant, so like if the Eagles have this first round exit, Sequin Barclay's season will still that will that will matter so much more to a football fan in Des Moines and Spokane and Kalamazoo as it would. Who cares about those people? But like you know, you know, those people buy sleep tabs too. Do you understand that reference? No.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Okay. Seacon Barclays had a new commercial out about sleep tabs. Yes. Got it. You would appreciate. He pokes fun and his former. his former owner, yeah. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Yeah. He has a line in there. Oh, trouble sleeping. Yeah. Some people are having trouble sleeping right now. That's pretty good. Yeah. But, so, yeah, I think for our purposes, for Eagles fans' purposes,
Starting point is 00:16:32 uh, and this season, the story of the season is what happens the next month. I think for the general public beyond Philadelphia, what's remembered from the season, unless they win a Super Bowl, has already been that, has already happened. I think Sequin is the big story for the general football fan about the Seagull team. I don't think the general football fan is like obsessed with Nick Sherry on his job security
Starting point is 00:16:55 or something like that. I see your point. I don't totally agree, but I think it's fair. Okay. Now, pivoting away from that, we also got the Pro Bowl news today, Zach. Who's going? Who's not going? Who's snubbed? Well, tell us who's going, and then Fran will tell us who got boned. Absolutely. So six Eagles made the Pro Bowl. Sequin Barclay?
Starting point is 00:17:16 obviously. Zach Bonn, Jalen Carter, Landon Dickerson, Lane Johnson, Cam Juergens. Three players made them, three of these guys
Starting point is 00:17:25 are making their Pro Bowl debut, a Pro Bowl game's debut. First time they have this honor. That's Zach Bonn, Jalen Carter, and Cam Jurgens. Okay. When you see that, Fran,
Starting point is 00:17:35 who jumps out to you as the biggest snub? Well, I know that the one that has gotten the most traction has been Jordan Milata. You know, just he was, PFF's highest-graded player
Starting point is 00:17:47 like all season and they did have that they did have that thing about he and Lane are left on an island more than any other tackles in the NFL and like they also perform better than expected against
Starting point is 00:17:58 when they are left on an island correct but I mean he's a victim of circumstance Penn A soel and Tristan Wurston Wurfs is gonna be the first team all pro would be my guess at left tackle and he's probably not gonna make it over Penny Soule either so you know
Starting point is 00:18:13 it's just kind of the the tough part about him being stuck in the in the NFC yeah i think i think you can you know and lane to to use that yesterday was was stumping for my lota and he said he thinks he's the best left tact on football you know he's the one person who he would give it to in the locker room if he could but it is it's it's tough to to to fight through it there what but he had a little bit of perspective on like where he is in his career what did he say about that yeah there was a point lane's career where where this this um consumed him you i think it was 2017 when he didn't make it and then he went he drove straight to the facility and slept at the facility is is that
Starting point is 00:18:50 correct right um and he said now he has a little more perspective on it he appreciates it but it's it's it's not like kind of how he he defines himself he understands too sometimes you have to get established in this league um but yeah i mean i agree with i agree with the sentiment about jordan myelotta i think he's a pro bowl caliber player i think it's a shame that there's only three offensive tackles. There's two centers and three offensive tackles. It would seem that, I mean, it's not like a real roster. You know, you can have four tackles. So, you know, it would, it would seem you should have like a backup at each position, right? It's like, you know, a backup left tackle, backup right tackle, you know, two backup offensive tackles.
Starting point is 00:19:34 I don't know. Well, he is the first alternate. So he would have been the next one, he would have been the next one up. But you think about Jeff Stoutland, like four of their four of their five starters are in the Pro Bowl here. The chapter in 2020, right? Yeah. Yeah, Jordan didn't make it that time either. Yeah. And so now there's this, you know, he could have been in there.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Obviously doesn't make it. But yeah, I mean, I think that's a takeaway there. I mean, AJ Brown had it. I had a good year, but I actually, I actually think that's a bigger snub. I think that is a bigger snub. I think AJ Brown not making it over Terry McLaren. Yeah. That would probably be the one I would point to.
Starting point is 00:20:14 I mean, all the efficiency. The thing is he missed, you know, four, three games or whatever it was. So I think that's kind of what tip the tide there. And the fact that Jaden Daniels is getting so much pub, Washington coming on the scene, that that's why McLaren got a little bit more. But I mean, A.J. Brown, the numbers, as you say, are off the charts. He's the only guy. He's second in yards per target to Jameson Williams,
Starting point is 00:20:37 but Jameson Williams doesn't have nearly as many targets. On a per game basis, he's unbelievable. You know, he doesn't, he's a victim of Eagles becoming a much more. or run heavy team. But I mean, I think AJ Brown's one of like the five best players in football. He should absolutely be in the pro ball. And Quinnian, do you think Quinnian was snuffed? No, looking at the other, so the corners that made actually, I mean, J.C. Horn making it was a little surprising just based off what I've seen from Carolina this year.
Starting point is 00:21:01 But so J.C. Horn, Jalen Johnson, Byron Murphy in Minnesota, and then Devin Witherspoon. Corner is tough because, I mean, yeah, he doesn't have a pick. I know. That's right. And I say it's tough to say like he definitely should have been in as a rook. you without a pick. Now, the biggest one for me, I would say, would be AJ. Josh Swett was the other first team alternate.
Starting point is 00:21:22 And I'm looking at the, give yourself a little pat on the back for that bad boy, Zach. Why am I giving myself a time? For sweaty. You invented him. First off, no. I had nothing. No.
Starting point is 00:21:33 I mean, talk about someone who has dealt with a lot to get to where he is. Josh Sweets earned this. And Josh Swet's going to get paid this offseason. I'm very interested to see what happens there. I just can't stand for looking at the defense staying on the Josh Swetman you get like eight ed rushers
Starting point is 00:21:49 defensive ends and outside lineback is separate like okay can we just modernize this just a little bit but that being said yeah I mean Jared first getting it getting in there probably tilts the defense's your the one question on the guy who did make it
Starting point is 00:22:05 you've been not critical but a little bit like let's not get over our skis on Lyndon Dickerson a little bit do you think he's deserving I think looking around at the other guards in the in the NFC I think that's fine for him to make I mean him getting in he's listed first I don't know if that meant that he was the leading vote getter my assumption is I think it's alphabetical okay I think so yeah so I would say that maybe he got in a little bit on name recognition there but I do think that I mean he the first few games were where he I thought he was struggling I think that and that's why I do think he was nursing some kind of injury early on in the season because the last five, six, seven, eight weeks, he's been much better. So, yeah, I think he's deserving for sure. How about Juergens?
Starting point is 00:22:48 Is he deserving? Yes. I do think that Jurgens is. And what's the, what's the, you had that, you had that one. Yeah. Which was not that big of a, it's not that great of a prediction. Which you did have that prediction in the prediction game, which no one remembers the no one.
Starting point is 00:23:01 No one remembers the name of it. But no, I think when you look at the, the centers in the NFC, I don't know that there was anybody else there that I would say, you know, that definitely deserved it. But I don't think this one, part of the, part of the methodology was, was that like Kelsey would be so vocal? I don't think that was really a part of it. No, I think it was just the fact that he's been as good as he is. I mean, and he makes,
Starting point is 00:23:20 he makes like those highlight type blocks that people are going to see. And so I think that that's, and that with the success of the run game, success of Sequan Barclay, I think that was enough to inflate him up. Okay. All right, much more to come after that very news heavy top of the show. We'll be back after this.
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Starting point is 00:26:43 Concussion Protocol. So this concussion has, it is serious enough that all concussions are serious, but it has lingered now beyond a week. Well, can I ask you a question? But I just want to say practice is going on now and he's still not at practice. Okay. Now that is more interesting. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:02 And worrisome than not being out of the protocol because as you explained last week, getting out of the protocol means practicing and then being okay the next day. So the Eagles haven't practiced until today. Yes. And this is my friend. DJ Smith, greeting from Eagles, I'm sorry, greetings from Eagles practice where I don't see Gianlan Hertz or Kenny Pickett at the start of the stretching period. Is there anything to be said for some gamesmanship here from the Eagles?
Starting point is 00:27:28 They know Jaylen Hertz is not going to play this weekend. Might as well just keep him in the concussion protocol to make an extra few minutes of preparation to the opponent? No, I don't think that because I actually think the concussion protocol. recall is like I think there's daily monitoring and it would surprise me if yeah if the gamesmanship so are you worried about this well they have a playoff game in a week and a half whether it's Saturday or Sunday it's in a week and a half and he still he he still hasn't practiced so your antenna starts to get starts to go up I mean practice I'm imagining that he
Starting point is 00:28:11 will practice here by next week. Now, if they have a Saturday game, let's say, practice is Tuesday next week. Right. Now, there's a lot of days between now and Tuesday. But this is, yeah, this is worth monitoring. Yeah, because if he's not out there today, that means that he needs to practice tomorrow to potentially come out of the protocol by Monday, right? Well, yeah, like to have a practice that he's clear, but he can he can still practice.
Starting point is 00:28:41 and then like officially clear protocol next week. So yeah, if he practiced him, so I think more of the concern is if he doesn't practice tomorrow, then it kind of carries over again. Yeah, so yeah, you want, yeah, you're right. You want to see him practice tomorrow. Otherwise, he has to, if he's not on the practice field, the first day next week, that's when you start saying,
Starting point is 00:29:01 is it a 10am key? I mean, because Kenny Pickett's clearly dealing with something with the rig. He's also not a practice, right? Yes, exactly. Hmm. And then that opens it up for, I mean, if Tanner McKee lights it up this weekend. It's possible.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Tanner McKee had a great answer to your question. Another great question from above. Yeah. Where he was like, what's the big difference between, what's the big difference between, you know, between playing the preseason and playing the regular season. That's not that kind of a question. That's a standard question.
Starting point is 00:29:33 You framed it in a good. And his answer was, well. It was a very good answer, actually. He's like, well, AJ and Spuddy are really good. He's like, I don't get to throw to guys like that ever. Because then I even asked him, I asked him later on after you left.
Starting point is 00:29:47 I'm like, you know, not to disparage the Stanford wide receivers or the guys you play with in the preseason. Well, you already disparage the entire Stanford program the other way. Well, they have a great GM now. Stanford has a GM now that I respect immensely. So, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:02 how that is? Andrew Luck. There you go. Yes. A couple former temple guys on that staff, too. So I said not to disparage Stanford or the guys who play with in the preseason, but do you think you show more of who you are? Do you get to show more of who you are when you play with NFL caliber receivers? And he like, he's like, you know, that's a really good question,
Starting point is 00:30:22 which is like his way of saying yes. And then he's like, I'll just put it this way. I like to think of it like I'm a point guard and you're just trying to get the ball to to your tough guys. Yeah, exactly. Now, question for your, you know, just outrageous and mean-spirited framing of the Tanner McKee track record. This game is going to be played January.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Will that count as before October or after October? No, that does. We're going to calendar year? No, we're only season. Yeah. Look, if he gets a win. He's potentially going to make a start after October. He could potentially get a win after October.
Starting point is 00:31:04 He started after October. He doesn't want after October. Yes, yes. Because you could argue this is before October. Yeah, no, no, in a season. Yeah, he's never won past October. Your expectation is he's going to start this game? Yeah, certainly he's talking that way like he is.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Okay. Well, let's get into it. We have a very, very, very, very, very exciting game that we are pleased to debut on this episode of the PHLY Eagles podcast. You know what's exciting because Bo texted at like 7.30 this morning with the idea. So you know that he's very excited about. Yeah, I was thinking about it in bed last. night I didn't do it until about half an hour ago but what's you I can't be thinking
Starting point is 00:31:43 about inactive's in bed no nothing couldn't fall asleep last night you know thinking about the show what can we do and so here's what we're gonna do the Eagles have the inactives to fill out this week you get six inactive potentially a third quarterback if you're gonna do it we presume the Eagles are gonna elevate two players from the practice squad and there's now an open roster spot on the roster thanks to the placing of CJ Usama on injured reserve yesterday and so we all are all gonna fill out who our inactives are our elevations are and the roster spot and whoever wins this game whoever gets the most correct answers will win one turkey to be added to their playoff
Starting point is 00:32:27 swooper sorecasting budget very exciting uh okay if there's a tie it's going to go in so the if you can predict the elevated who signs the roster spot okay that's the most important tiebreaker okay second most important tiebreaker is the elevations okay and then if it's still tied after that we will go to um well they both get half turkeys got it they both get one turkey if all they both get one full turkey if all three of the tiebreakers are the same got it okay all right how do you guys want to do this Zach, why don't you give us your inactive's first? Sorry. And Franon and I will tell you if we have any differences.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Okay. So, yeah, I have Janwin on this list. Do I designate him as the third quarter? Do I, I don't know. Don't ask me. No, I'm saying I, because I just wrote it down as like seven inactives because I typically think of seven inactives. Yeah, but one of them has to be.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Yeah, so I guess. So if Jaywin's not designated as the third quarterback, and he can still be, he can still be an act? active can't he could still be with they can still have seven inactive right yeah no in order to have seven inactive one of them has to be designated as the third quarterback interesting yeah okay so then this this kind of screws me up here because they're not allowed to designate hurts as the third quarterback if he's cleared if he's not cleared um so then i guess for my purposes i'll have six okay okay i jalen hurts i also have jalen
Starting point is 00:34:01 hurts i also have jalen hurts i also have saquin barclay i also have saquan barclay i also have Sequin Barclay. I do as well. Lane Johnson. I do as well. I also have Lynn Johnson. Jordan. I do not have Jordan. Okay. Darius Slay? I do have Darius Slay. I did not have Darius Lay. And then I had, I'll give you, because I had seven here. I had J.1 Carter and A.J. Brown. I had both of them. So then I need to take one off this list. And the one I would take would be myelotta. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. You were
Starting point is 00:34:35 hurt our reaction to my lot of it's not the reaction it's that i'm not gonna i i did it no no you had to make that decision before you read the seven that's insane i you know i'm not gonna fight over this game we're crazy we're 236 ball no well because just pretend that hurts is your third quarterback okay i'll pretend all seven that's what i'll do i'll pretend that hurts is my third quarterback so i get all seven okay all right so i also have hurts lane a j sleigh and sayquan yeah I have Kenny Pickett as my third quarterback. I have Kenny Pickett as my third quarterback. And then my last one is I have Devante Smith.
Starting point is 00:35:11 I had Devante Smith as well. So the only difference between us is, who did you have? You have Jalen Carter. So I have Jalen Hertz, Sequin Barkley, both A.J. and Devante. Yes. Lane, Jalen Carter, and Kenny Pickett as the emergency third quarter. Okay, so I have Slay. You have Jalen Carter.
Starting point is 00:35:30 There you go. So that's our difference. All right. Now, let's go to the elevations. You're thinking about it. That makes more sense. Let's go to the elevations. Yep.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Fran, you get to go first now on your elevations. All right. So my first one is Tyrion Davis Price. Hmm. I thought with Shipley still, you know, limited coming out the concussion protocol, not sitting, not having Seekin' parking in the game. I thought Trian Davis Price is a nice innings eater. I don't think they want to put Kenny Gainwell out there too much in the game.
Starting point is 00:35:58 So I put TDP out there. And then I went with our good friend Chuck Harris. Yeah. Elevation number two. I was on the fence here. I went Chuck Harris as well. Yeah. Do you need to see Chuck Harris? Like, wouldn't you rather see K.J. Henry or O'Shawn Mathis? However, he's around here for a reason, right?
Starting point is 00:36:16 So I also have Chuck Harris there. Now, I'm counting on Will Shipley being cleared for the protocol, so I did not have Tyrion Davis price. I'm just thinking about where they're also going to need a body. And I went Gabe Hall as the defensive tackle. So you don't have to play Jordan Davis, and that way you can rotate between Hall. Booker and Ajima.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Okay. Okay. How about you, Zach? I won Gabe Hall and I went Davis Price. So I would like to get an edge here. I haven't having a real hard time with this game here. But, yeah, this shows you how he's thinking about all the different decisions that Howie has right now.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Why are you having a hard time? Well, no, because look, I need to see how the week progresses. with injuries. It is Thursday afternoon. Yes. So. We're doing this between a nap today. You make it sound like I was laying in bed.
Starting point is 00:37:15 You got a nap. All right. I'll give the story there. 30 seconds. So people don't think I was taking a nap. God forbid. Okay. New Year's resolution.
Starting point is 00:37:25 New Year and New Year. My kids are off the school. Yeah. I took them. So to help out my wife, who's got a lot of work right now, I took them to a movie this morning. I took that there was a 9.30 showing of Mufasa.
Starting point is 00:37:39 And I went to the movie theater. And I got us, it was a theater where the seats were Klein. And I was out in like the first five minutes of the movie. I was out. I woke up with Sloan saying, read, I think Dad's sleeping. like I put that seat back I couldn't have my phone I don't know what's so funny here
Starting point is 00:38:07 I just remember it's it's it's it's it's it's it's Rafiki with uh you know Rafiki's like the wise and he starts telling about Mufasa and then the next thing I know it's like 30 minutes into the movie I'm trying to pick up the pieces
Starting point is 00:38:27 about what's going on I want to make sure my kids are still there I was out. Like this was, I mean, I could take an Advil PM. Like this, this, this theater was so comfortable. It was, yeah. Emily's going to start sending you to the movie theater just so. Probably, yeah, probably.
Starting point is 00:38:47 But yeah, so that's, that's what happens. No, I did not have a designated nap this morning. I did not. That is a nap. I wasn't like, you know, I'm going to take a nap. I, no, I got up early to do work before. and then I took into the movies
Starting point is 00:39:02 and came here we saw Mufaso on Friday I saw it this weekend too It was good It was good The music was just okay Oh really We have been banging that music in the house
Starting point is 00:39:12 Yeah I thought the music was really I thought the music was really good Yeah it was all right But the movie was good I thought the story was good If you want to go fast go alone There's the road Off you go
Starting point is 00:39:25 Yeah so Jack doesn't remember that song If you want to go far we go together yeah so i have i have gave paul and tie david's price i probably would like i don't know why i have to call him that but oh man excuse me you know what i'm saying uh all right so then last up who's your who's your signs to the active roster guy um i isn't it you're turn to go first your turn paris campbell i'm paris campbell too went dallas gant oh interesting Interesting.
Starting point is 00:39:56 That's a good long-term play if they're going to actually need an extra special team's body, what they saw from him last week. I'm thinking Paris Campbell, like, what's he been here for this whole time? Now, they don't need four wide receivers, but I feel like this is like a make-good from Nick,
Starting point is 00:40:12 and then they just wave him next week. I was thinking, because initially I was thinking about a Kari Blasen game. I was thinking about that too, like the guys who had their elevations expired. Elevations are expired, no tight end. You lose you. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:26 So Calcutara and E.J. Jenkins are the only healthy tight ends. Maybe you don't want to have Grant out there. So I thought Blasling game could take over some of that. I ended up going to go into a good. But if you're only going to play E.J. Jenkins, that means you're going to want to be in free receiver sets the whole time. So you need a fourth receiver active. Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Yeah. So if I can give a little roster thinking here, if you, okay. So, yeah, I guess everyone, I was thinking you want to bring someone up from practice squad, but this is a spot on 53. So no, yeah, I see what you're saying. Paris Campbell would make sense. Blasen game would make sense.
Starting point is 00:41:04 You're going to have to wave the guy. Gant's interesting, though, because they're, I mean, if we presume that, I mean, I think Bond and Dean are going to be active just because they have to be in backup duty, but they don't, I mean, it's just Trotter Jr. and Orrin Burke. So you would like to have a third linebacker available. If someone gets available. You're not going to want to throw Bonn in there. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Maybe that's, maybe they don't need you. Maybe they don't need King Paul. They just go with the two defensive tackles. I don't know. That's why this is going to be the most excited game that we've ever done. The most exciting. A couple super chats from Claire. Early on, she said Peckness Migrate, the idiot, Anna Karenina, and Lolita.
Starting point is 00:41:44 I'm not following. I mean, he doesn't know fiction, but he does know Lolita. Lolita. I don't have a good answer for you, Claire. Unfortunately, I've not read any of them. I've got nothing from there either. Alex says ZB would read Bo's diary if he left it open on his desk. I agree.
Starting point is 00:42:03 That is how I feel. All right. I'm going to defend myself here, okay? Like, I mean, not to like I pat myself on the back or like inflate my, my role. I tend to be the one who's in dashboard the most. Is that fair? Or in our Eagles, the back end system the most. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Okay. and I tend to know like what content's going up. You have an open line to me. You can text me anytime. Yeah, all I did was click. I also told you yesterday I was writing this. This was before that. Because I,
Starting point is 00:42:37 you're doing this stuff on the show. I actually told you. I said, I saw you're doing that. Yeah, I was offended. But you waited to bring that up on the show. Well, then you re-brought it up. But you weren't offended yesterday. I was. I was thinking about it.
Starting point is 00:42:51 I clicked preview. I didn't read through it. I wanted to. skimed it. No, I just wanted to see what it was. Like, oh, this is great. I love when you're right. I say that all the time. I see, I see the Pope Wolfvite. Don't get used to it. So, I mean, not if I'm going to get peeped on.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Okay. So then I see I see at the top. Peep and Zaz over here. It says, since no one else is writing this. Call the cops. And I was like, oh, that's interesting. And then I read, oh, so he's doing fan fiction here. Okay. That's when he stopped. That's when I stopped.
Starting point is 00:43:22 I read it today because I read everything that appears in our site. Please be a diehard. I read all four teams. I know more about the Flyers New Year's resolutions than anyone than I ever would have expected. But yeah, I've read everything on all phtly.com. All right. Well, if you want to read things that are meant for you to read, become a diehard. I think Zach was in the right there. No. Let me ask you, if you saw a random show in our feed, would you want to know what that was? Was it unpublished? I don't know what the equivalent would be.
Starting point is 00:43:59 If you saw in Notion, something about a show scheduled, an email show schedule. I would probably text Julia and ask, what is this? Okay. You wouldn't click in on Notion and say, whoa, what's the show? Well, that's not how Notion works. You know that. All right. Okay.
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Starting point is 00:48:45 for 35% off polarized sunglasses. Try for yourself the Shades, rated five stars by over 300. thousand people. Fran, he went through and did the exercise that we talked about last week. Yep. Looking at this Eagles team and the roster as if they were the opponents. What did you learn?
Starting point is 00:49:08 Was it an exercise that you felt useful? Yeah, I mean, it was just a way just to kind of take stock of where I view all of basically the entire depth chart going into the postseason. So I wouldn't say that I did more film work. I did do some extra like statistical stuff than I would normally do. but it was more just okay what are my thoughts on moro jama
Starting point is 00:49:28 as we sit here right now you know and kind of went through all the all 53 guys on the depth chart so yeah I thought it was a good exercise and you can go check it all out now on all phtoI.com let me tell you what your thoughts are on morojaima just a little tease if you're thinking
Starting point is 00:49:44 about becoming a die hard moro ajama here we go really taking a step down the trench down the stretch not the trench quick off the ball pop on contact to change line of scrimmage in the run game can disrupt versus run and pass
Starting point is 00:49:59 good rotational piece. He's been really good the last couple weeks. I think that the last two weeks, I would say, would be the best two games of his career so far. If I can ask you, do you see enough of Ojima that you would say, all right, Milton Williams, you're not going to pay him
Starting point is 00:50:15 $15 million? The way that he has played the last couple of weeks has given me more faith that if you were to move on from Milton, that he would be, he would be able to step in and play increased snapshot for sure was there anything that struck you as like this is where they're weak this is where i would attack them that you didn't already have in mind um no i think the the bigger one was almost uh so at the bottom every week i usually do like all right these are the keys to victory for the eagles in this game and so for for me in this exercise i did all right here the three keys for this unit going into the postseason um so it was a nice way to just kind of like crystallize my thoughts on both sides of the football going into the playoffs and so And, you know, for me, I would say the big one, I think that from a past game standpoint, offensively, obviously we've talked so much about Jalen Hertz and the, you know, the up and down
Starting point is 00:51:05 nature of the passing attack so far this year. I do think that with Jalen missing now, it'll be basically three weeks going into the postseason, that number one, you want to kind of get him into a rhythm, certainly when he gets back, do everything you can to kind of make him comfortable in that first game in the wild card week. But the other big one is, the explosive plays in the past game, they were ninth from weeks one through nine. And then since then they've fallen all the way down to 17th, week 10 on. So just finding those, you know, we know how much Nick Siriani talks about the explosive plays
Starting point is 00:51:35 through the passing game. They just have not been getting them there. They've been getting explosive runs, obviously, but have not been getting those explosive passes. And I think that when they get into the playoffs, you want to be able to get those explosive plays. Zach, just to cross artis and dot our eyes, the Eagles activated the practice window for Dallas Goddard.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Yes. This week is your expectation that he will be ready to go for the playoffs? Yes, my expectation is that he'll be ready to go for the playoffs. His practice participation yesterday was such that he is, like, he's trending in a very positive direction here. I don't anticipate him being activated for Sunday's game because they're going to need that roster spot as we just saw what that exercise we just did. But I would expect him to be there for the playoffs. I'm curious what they'll do because. And we should also say, I think we said this before, CJ Usama's on IR.
Starting point is 00:52:19 C.J. Usama's on IR. So next week they can do Goddard to the active roster and take Ian Book off the roster. Correct. And then we'll see what they do with this last roster spot. Maybe it is. Well, maybe it's your Gantman. Because his elevations are not up, so they don't have to. Well, the thing is, and this is something that Denise will tell us tomorrow too,
Starting point is 00:52:43 that there's unlimited elevations during the postseason. So you're allowed to bring up Lasen Gators. every week if you wanted to, but you can only do two still. So if there's someone you're going to have, if you want a Hari Blossom game on your roster for the postseason, and you want to save those elevations, you can put him on the 53. And then we should just say, since we talked to Saquan about this and he knew it, the record for most rushing yards in a season, including the playoffs, 2,476. So Saquan is going to need 471 rushing yards.
Starting point is 00:53:20 yards over the course of the postseason to tie that. Terrell Davis in 2008. Yeah. 1998. 1999. Sorry. Which if he continues his, the average, like, yards per game, he'll do it in Super Bowl. There you go.
Starting point is 00:53:34 That'd be fun. So, he would have that. You know, the other, so that was one number I did look for, I did pull for that piece. The other one that I thought this was just more like interesting anecdote. So Jalen Hertz, obviously, it looks like he's not going to play this week, obviously. so he will have missed the last two games of the regular season would presumably be back
Starting point is 00:53:55 for the first game in the playoffs. Let me just pull this number. Here it is. Okay. If Jalen Hertz does not start in week 18 but returns for the playoffs, he would be the first quarterback to suffer an injury then not start the last two regular season games
Starting point is 00:54:12 but return for the first playoff start since Peyton Manning in 2015 with Denver when they went on to win Super Bowl 15. Okay. That's from NFL media. Good little cherry pick. Yeah. I like that.
Starting point is 00:54:24 All right. Well, speaking of champions, you've got Eric Dickerson. You've got Bowulf. Before we even get to Super Sorkasting, it's time to take a look at the season long over-unders. Spread your wins and fly. Oh, Eric Dickerson is rushing for you as a champion. I was thinking of Super Bowl champion.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Okay. Okay. Yeah, go on. Okay. Well, you take it from here. I knew that was You got it. Yes and.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Serenity now. Julia, do you have that? There we go. So, the spreadger wins and fly draft. Zach, your total is done. You're going to go seven and five. You hit on the Chiefs over, your favorite one every year.
Starting point is 00:55:10 You missed on the Steelers under. After all that talk about what a great staff they had, you bet against Tom. And you lived to tell the tale, but he did lose. He went on the Giants under. The Bengals over missed that. Yeah. The Titans under, got that.
Starting point is 00:55:30 The Cardinals under. Over. Over. You have it? Yeah, I got right here. Hold on. Let me pull up the full one from Danes here. Okay, I got it.
Starting point is 00:55:41 The Jaguars over. Missed. The Jets over nine and a half. Big miss. Brown's over eight and a half miss, then you closed strong with the commanders over six and a half, a Ravens over 10 and a half, and a Colts under eight and a half. He hit both of your challenge flags to go seven and five. Fran, you hit your first three. Good start to the draft. Hit my first four. Hit your first four. You're only under. Hit your first four. Vikings over six and a half. Lions over
Starting point is 00:56:11 ten and a half, bills over ten and a half. Raiders under six and a half. Then you missed on the Falcons over nine and a half. That was the big game from Sunday night that flipped this and made it final. The Colts over eight and a half. You missed. You hit the Rams over eight and a half. You hit the Broncos over five and a half. You missed the dolphins over nine and a half.
Starting point is 00:56:29 You missed the bears over eight and a half. And you were 50-50 on your challenge flags. Steelers over eight and a half. Bucks under seven and a half. You finish seven and five. I'll let you finish. Go ahead. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Bo, great job. But Packers over nine and a half Seahawks over seven and a half Niners under 11 and a half missed on the Ravens Ravens under 10 and a half that was a miss The only one in the entire league that is still Undecided is Texans who have nine wins They have been on the precipice for like years now
Starting point is 00:57:07 I took them over nine and a half They're going to need a win I believe resting their starters this Sunday to hit that I took the Saints under seven and a half The bucks over seven and a half the half. The Patriots over four and a half. That's a miss. The Cowboys over 10 and a half. A big miss. And then closed strong with the Chargers over eight and a half and hit both my challenges. The Falcons under nine and a half. The Jets under nine and a half. I'm eight and three. I have clinched and can get as high as nine and three. That is a demonstrative victory. And unfortunately, Julia had the remaining team left over the Carolina Panthers. And she went over five and a half. Sorry, Julia.
Starting point is 00:57:43 I'd be interested to see the If we could do like a Add it up Yeah exactly Your Vikings one is helpful And Lions too Yeah Bill's too I guess yeah
Starting point is 00:57:55 I think next season we should do This is a different time of year What do you mean? I think we should do this In like before training camp It begins In one of those quiet times Because every
Starting point is 00:58:10 Because we do this show during like the busiest portion of the summer for the Eagles. Like we squeeze it in before final cuts or working on these end of the summer stories. Yeah, every year it seems like this day is just squeezed in. What's this? Just a sad violin. I mean, it's like the biggest complaint I've ever heard in my life.
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Starting point is 00:58:55 Yeah. So, no, we manufacture a story or show ideas for the middle of the summer. This would be ideal for like July 15th. And then because when you do it like August 25th, there's so much going on. that time you don't want to get you don't want to get the training camp injuries yeah okay okay but you are going with the number that they have it like if there's if the quarterback gets hurt the number is adjusted so not from the point you're drafting though no but I'm saying you're picking true okay yeah that's fair you should or maybe you get the adjusted number I don't know just it's just
Starting point is 00:59:37 it's a fair proposition it's just an idea it's no but it's okay all right Super jab from Vince, who says if Hertz is still in the concussion protocol, does that mean he cannot sit in on film training? Good question. Good question, Vince. No, there's different stages of the concussion protocol. So if he's at a stage now where he can do light aerobic activity, then he's allowed.
Starting point is 01:00:00 So that's stage three, then he would be allowed to be in the film session. And from just speaking to different players, he's around the team right now. So it's not as if he's in a, you know, there is a stage where you have to be in a dark room. He's not in that stage right now. You know, Tanner McKee talked about the feedback that he had. We saw the clip last week when the players got their golf carts. So no, he is allowed to be in film training as long as he's in stage three of the protocol. Fran, before we get to Super, knowing that this is going to be a game of backups, what is interesting to you?
Starting point is 01:00:35 Wow. Yikes. Look, to me, like, it's the, we get extended looks at Jeremiah Trotter Jr., Kiwi Ringo, Moro Jama. you know, we'll see what the offensive line, like who's going to play along the offensive line. It's almost like it's a preseason game for me, the way I look at it. So, yeah, I would say that's probably the most interesting end of it. How about you, Zach? There's so much that I'm looking forward to watching in this game.
Starting point is 01:01:00 I mean, we'll start off obviously with Tanner McKee, him getting a meaningful start here. I want to see Jahan Dotson. Jehan Dotson's been a disappointment, relatively speaking, since they acquired him. He'll be the... It would be very funny if he just had a monster game. He'll be the top receiver for the Eagles. I want to see some of like the young defensive players, Keely Ringo being one of them.
Starting point is 01:01:28 You know, so some guys who could emerge into starting spots down the line. So yeah, so that's intriguing. And I'm also fascinated by now, like the Giants players don't care about their draft seating or their draft position, right? but the Giants are incentivized to lose. They're facing his bad, or they're facing a team of backups. It's like, who's, you know, the, do the Eagles win this game with Tanner McKee and Johan Dodson and Fred Johnson and you go on down the list.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Okay, good stuff. All right. We have a few more here. Let's see here. We've already gotten those. No. Oh, oh. We have another one from Claire who's doubling down on our super chat.
Starting point is 01:02:11 She says, peck nest migrate. Bose drafts Lolita, a book by Malcolm Gladwell. I'm definitely nesting Malcolm Gladwell's books. Those books are awesome. Yeah, a big fan of Malcolm Gladwell. I've never read Lolita before. That was actually the problem with that. It's that I didn't know what Lolita was about.
Starting point is 01:02:31 I just heard that phrase from a radio instructor one time. So I will go with, I will migrate Lolita. And I will pack Bow's drafts because there are times when you want to see like one time what that story is in the dashboard that it didn't even have a headline. I thought it was about that. That's exactly right. It didn't even have a headline.
Starting point is 01:02:53 So of course, it's not ready to be read. You're lucky I didn't delete it. Why would you delete it? What? That's insane, Zach? No, it's not insane. Yes. No, because if you see.
Starting point is 01:03:06 But you see when it's up, you see when it's created when it's updated. If I see just. If you saw that. that a thing is updated and it doesn't have a title yet obviously that is not to be read. You see, I actually think that you're in the minority of writing in. That's fine. That's true.
Starting point is 01:03:25 That's fine. So if you're, if you see, because if it doesn't have a title, it's clearly not ready to be looked at. No, honestly, if I see something that says no subject in WordPress,
Starting point is 01:03:36 I think it was a draft that was created that's not meant to be there and therefore it should be. Isn't that what, you what you would think? Because there are times when I create something and then I create something. If you had deleted it, like... Yeah, I mean, I would be...
Starting point is 01:03:51 I would tell Vince he needs a higher replacement because I would have a new job tomorrow. It'd be the end of existence. Yeah. Keep your fingers at my business. Let me know you're writing something. That'd be wonderful. I told you.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Idiot Sandwich has a super chat. He says, caught snoozing, Berman snores while lion roars. Didn't snore. Did not snore. That's why I thought. How do you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:16 How do you think? Slow and knew that you were out and he was sleeping. That's why 30 minutes in. She wanted water. We didn't get water. You know, we also did the Cosmo Kramer thing where, you know, you stop a while while ahead of time and you, I didn't bring coffee in, but brought treats for the kids. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:33 But no water? What's that? No water? No, that was the mistake I made. So then I had to go, this bad boy over here. I mean, you would think... Oh, but it's the smart... I mean, that's the great twist, though.
Starting point is 01:04:43 That's not my favorite twist. No, but my point is, is... It's probably $15, yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, Sloan, she was turning, she was turning me looking for water, and I was sleeping. I wasn't snoring.
Starting point is 01:04:56 I've always wanted a brother. They say they, brother. Yeah, I didn't... I just didn't... It was fun. It was okay. Super chat from DJ, aka Mr. Sandman, who says,
Starting point is 01:05:06 is the Eagles postseason opponent determined yet. It is not right. Now, it will be the Green Bay Packers and it will be the Green Bay Packers unless the Packers win on Sunday and the commanders lose on Sunday and those games played concurrently with the Eagles game at 1 o'clock. So we will know during the postgame show who the Eagles are playing. We won't know when yet, but we will know who. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Supertime. Last week, Zach, he had three items. Sequin Barkley finishes the game with more rushing touchdowns this season than Jalen Hurts. That did not happen. More than one of the lower seeds in this round of the Collins football playoff wins outright. That happened. And Micah Parsons records zero sacks.
Starting point is 01:05:46 That happened. You hit two. Fran, A.J. Brown finishes the game with a cast percentage on the season greater than or equal to 70%. Did not happen. The Eagles defense forces at least X. Three and outs and turnovers combined. You chose seven. And they got it.
Starting point is 01:06:02 And then the largest lead by either team of the game is greater than the number of turkeys from which this item sells. That was 11 turkeys. you hit it, you both hit two. Bo. Tanner McKee plays an offensive snap. Bang. Either team completes a pass of 10 plus air yards off a double move. Bang. A non-offensive touchdown is scored in the game.
Starting point is 01:06:23 Bang. Sequin Barkley accounts for more scrimmage yards than C.D. Lamb and Cavante Turpin combined. Bang! Jalen Hertz and Tanner McKee combined for more snaps than Trey Lance. Bang! And the Eagles win the game. Double bang. the Vikings and Lions both fail to win did not happen
Starting point is 01:06:41 six which has to be a super record and I take the lead on the season going to five and five sixth half a game ahead of Fran who is at five and a third and Zach who is two points behind at 3.83 but remember we're a long way away from the end here though this is the end of the regular season in the playoffs the points increase one point for every round which you
Starting point is 01:07:08 might argue renders the regular season moot but that's okay there's no guarantee of the playoffs could end at any time so uh away we go it's the eagles in the playoffs it's only the eagles in the playoffs only so the eagles losing the round in the wild card that's the last super yes okay uh just confirming fran and zach both have two turkeys left over i have negative four so you both start with 26 i start with 20 and uh fran i believe it is your turn to kick things off by the way i saw in the chat the reason i'm on my phone is my computer's dead i'm not just looking at my phone. Fair enough. Is it me,
Starting point is 01:07:42 then somebody's diary? You start. It goes Fran then Zach than Boe today. Okay. One second. I want to make sure that my bookkeeping's in order. All right. All right.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Here we go. My first one. Eagles running backs run for at least 102 yards. I'm smiling because I had this and then I thought to myself, I bet somebody else does something similar, so I'm going to take this one away. There you go.
Starting point is 01:08:08 All running backs. All running backs. So not just any single. running back not just any single running back yep and not quarterback running backs run for at least 102 yards obviously that's
Starting point is 01:08:19 the mark that Seekoine Barkley would have needed to hit to break the record we will start the bidding at three do you count a fullback if a fullback is running good question um yeah sure okay
Starting point is 01:08:35 Kari Blasking him if he's in there you're starting to bidding at what three three I'll say four Port a bow. Let's go five. Five to Fran. Six. Oh, six to Zach.
Starting point is 01:08:55 We'll do seven. Seven to Fran. Seven to Fran. Seven to Fran going once. Eight. Oh, eight to Zach. Hmm. Eight to Zach going once.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Nine. Nine to Fran. And if I'm going once. Going twice. Take it. And a friend. 17. All right, mine here is Tanner McKee throws for greater than 208 yards.
Starting point is 01:09:37 And the 208 yards is what the New York Giants allow this season. So greater than what the New York Giants allow the season. They allow 208 yards per game. I'll start the bidding at two. So it has to, not equal, has to be two and nine. Three. Three to Fran. Four.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Throwing a slop. What? Four to that. Five. Five to Fran. Six. Six to Zach. Six is that going once.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Six is that going twice. Good bye. Two nine. All right. My first submission is also a Tanner McKee submission. Tanner McKee does at least one of the following things. He has a passer rating greater than 125, greater than or equal to 125.
Starting point is 01:10:42 He throws at least two more touchdowns than interceptions. He scores a touchdown himself, or he finishes the game with a top three EPA per dropback for any starting quarterback for the Eagles this season. And I will start the bidding at three. Three to bow. Four. Four to Zach. Five. Five to Fran.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Six. Six to Bo. Seven. Seven to Fran. Seven to friend going once. I'm not going to root against my boy. It's okay. I can be happy.
Starting point is 01:11:31 going twice. Oh my God, I was about to hit the hammer. I was just hanging there. God, you can have free. All right. Yeah, good for you. Yeah. I'm going to ruin for that touch push.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Yeah. All right, our first in is as we enter, Fran has 17, Zach has 20, I have 12. Okay, item four. All right, first complete sentence, then normal auction. X leads all Eagles defensive
Starting point is 01:12:11 linemen, including edge rushers in defensive snaps played. Whoever one item three, which is me, must complete the sentence by choosing
Starting point is 01:12:20 any Eagles defensive lineman for X and then start the bidding for a normal auction. Hmm. Defensive snaps played. Now, do I want to drive the price up
Starting point is 01:12:35 or do I want to have an item that's not likely to hit? I'm going to go You know what I think the most interesting one here Is Bryce Huff So I'm going to say Bryce Huff And I'm going to start the bidding at one
Starting point is 01:12:54 Two Two to Fran Three Oh Three to Zach Is that going once It could definitely be Bryce Huff Could be
Starting point is 01:13:12 Is that going twice All right I'll take it So I feel like I feel like we've lost a little bit here. Are you okay? I'm good. I'm good.
Starting point is 01:13:25 You're thinking about the Lion King. No, no, no, no, no. I'm thinking about another stuff. Everything okay? Yeah, yeah, I'm good. Eagles locker rooms opening earlier than I anticipate it. So you're stuck here, held hostage. It's opening a 340, so I'm just kind of,
Starting point is 01:13:44 I can tell you we're really raising through this. I'm watching the clock quickly. Okay, I appreciate the honesty. Drew Locke. Now, Drew Locke throws for under 228 yards. Now, the reason why I picked under 220 yards, obviously he eclipsed this last week. 228 would have been his high mark for the season before last week. So it's basically, you know, is he going to have better than what he had done before last week happening here against the Seagull's defense?
Starting point is 01:14:16 We'll start the bidding of two. It has to be under. Under, under, so 227 or less. Four. Four to bow. League neighbors. Ford a bow going once. And he wants to win.
Starting point is 01:14:35 Yeah. Um. Ford of both going twice. Five. Oh, five to Fran. Five to Fran going once. Five to friend going twice. Soul to Fred and five.
Starting point is 01:15:04 All right, Zach. All right, here you go. Jahan Dodson, leaves the Eagles. In receiving yards and or receptions. Now, my one question before, just because I was thinking, when I was thinking about this this morning when I sent it to Julia, does it need to be solo lead?
Starting point is 01:15:24 Because perceptions you can. So I don't know what's appropriate here. What do you think? So old lead. You get to decide. World is your oyster. Changes how much it's worth. That's all.
Starting point is 01:15:34 True. You want to sleep on a little bit? Go see a movie? No. No. No. So let's go with solo lead. So he alone leads in either one.
Starting point is 01:15:46 Either one, not both. Yeah, either one. I'll start to bidding on one. Come on. One to Zach. Two. Three. Four.
Starting point is 01:15:59 Five. Oh. Five to Zach. Six. Seven. Seven to Zach. Strong about it. Seven is that going once.
Starting point is 01:16:14 Seven is that going twice? Going twice. Sold. Over to me. Any Eagles player in this game, not just wide receiver, this is my fault for writing it. Any Eagles player in this game finishes with more receiving yards on the game than their jersey number. Any Eagles player. And I will start the bidding at one. One to bow. Two. Two Zach. Johnny Wilson, 89. Jahan Dotson. 81. Paris Campbell, 80.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Can a gain 1 14? Can he gain 1 14? Your best shot probably. Will Shipley 26? 28. 28. Sequant's 26. That's right.
Starting point is 01:17:19 It'd be funny if they gave it their Shibley from this game. Game, Taylor, Hertz, a jersey. Are we at three to Zach? Yep. He said two. I said one. He said two to Zach. I'll say three and root for Gain.
Starting point is 01:17:32 Well, three to bow. Four. Or does Zach? Um, where is that going once? Or is that going twice? Got it. For four?
Starting point is 01:17:51 Yep. Zach's got four entries. Right? Yep. Correct. Really trying to get out of here. No, I'm kind of win. Trying to win.
Starting point is 01:18:05 All right, we go to Danes' number two item. As we enter, Fran has 12. I have 12. Zach has six turkeys. This is another complete the sentence than a normal auction. I like these complete the sentence. X leads all Eagles position players and targets. Whoever won item seven, which is Zach, must complete the sentence by choosing any Eagles position player for X and then start the bidding for our normal auction.
Starting point is 01:18:28 So does he double down on Jahan Dotson or does he go elsewhere? I don't have enough turkeys to double down on Jihad Dotson. So I want to give one that has a probability enough that you guys are going to bid and use your turkeys, but one that I'm not going to be sorry if it hits. That's my quick theory here. So I will go with, now you think Paris Campbell's getting elevated, so that would be interesting for I want to use,
Starting point is 01:18:59 considering Gianni Wilson here. Let's go with, let's go with a Naya Smith. Four. You have to start the bidding. Oh, okay. So then I'm not going to do a Nye Smith. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:15 you don't even do one Let's go Johnny Wilson for one That's very funny Two Two to Fran You're not going higher than two Because they have a lot of turkeys To do to Fran going once
Starting point is 01:19:36 If it was E.J. Jenkins I would have gone higher than two I actually think E.J Jenkins would be a sneaky one That would be a fun one To be a fun one I'll go three I'm not giving you I'm not giving you
Starting point is 01:19:47 Yeah. The root is that. The rate is that going once? He can take it. Well, now he's got, but now he's covered well. I know. I know. But if you guys think E.J. Jenkins, I just burned all these turkeys.
Starting point is 01:20:06 Yeah. Now, now, did that one say a solo lead or we're going to have to figure out the, I guess, I guess this, I guess it's ties inclusive, but. Yeah. It does say leads. It just leads, yeah. We'll have to figure that out. All right. Fred.
Starting point is 01:20:27 All right. Last one. Less than 82% of the kickoffs in this game result in touchbacks. Now the Eagles ranked sixth in the NFL with a touchback percentage of 82.9%. The Giants are seventh right behind them at 82%. So that's why it's 82%. We're going to have a 36 degree day on Sunday. See if the Eagles stick with Jake Elliott.
Starting point is 01:20:51 Yeah. we will start the bidding at three. Three to Fran. Say I can't bid. I'll say four. Four to bow. I'll go five. Five to Fran.
Starting point is 01:21:09 Six. Seven. Seven to Fran. Seven to Fran. Going once. Going twice. Sold. My thinking is...
Starting point is 01:21:31 I think you're going to get that. Yeah. My thinking with the weather and then also like I could see this being a game where all the, with all the backups playing. You want to take any chance you get. Yeah, I want to see these guys. Yeah. Let's see these guys in action. All right, Zach.
Starting point is 01:21:44 So this is a fun one here. The Eagles finish the season ranked number one in scoring defense. And just to kind of, does that clue you in here, they're currently nine points behind the Chargers and two points behind the Chiefs. Chargers are playing the Raiders. Chargers are also arresting their backups. The Chiefs are playing the Broncos. The Chiefs are, I said the charges were arresting their backups. Chargers are playing their backups.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Chiefs are playing their backups as well. Broncos need to win this game. So the Eagles, and now tied for number one is acceptable. So just gives you some context there. And I will start to putting you at one. Okay. One in the back. Two to Fran.
Starting point is 01:22:35 Two to a friend. Two to a friend going once. Um, a three. Nope. Parade attack. Three is that going once? Four. Four to rent.
Starting point is 01:22:54 I can't bid. And by the way, I know we have all these advanced metrics now to evaluate defensive performance, but if you're number one in yards and number one in points, that's pretty historic. Yeah. Like that would be, you look at the 91 Eagles defense with Reggie White and Clyde Simmons, Jerome Brown, Seth Joyner, West Hopkins, Eric Allen, who might be in the Hall of Fame. that was number one in points and yards. The last time they finished number one in yards.
Starting point is 01:23:19 91. All right, you got that. Yep. All right, my last submission. The Eagles defense in this game combines for more sacks and turnovers than the points in which the Eagles are favored in the wild card round,
Starting point is 01:23:35 which we will get a line on in the post game show. Does that make sense? According to Bet365. According to Bet365. And I will start the bidet at three. And that means that I win it for three. Yeah, good call.
Starting point is 01:23:52 All right. We go to the end is. I have nine. Zach has three. Fran has one. Okay. Item 12. The Eagles wild card
Starting point is 01:24:05 opponent is the Packers. And this is a reverse Dutch auction, count up from one, and ends when two people have yelled swooper out. So we got that. And as a reminder,
Starting point is 01:24:19 the Eagles opponent will be the Packers unless the Packers beat the Bears on Sunday and the commanders lose to the Dallas Cowboys. That game is in Dallas. Yes. Does everybody remember Swooper out here? I do.
Starting point is 01:24:40 All right. How much are all the Turkey's willing to pay? The Eagles wildcard opponent is the Packers. Julia, is everybody ready? Yep. All right, Julie, on your mark. Zach is ready to go. All right.
Starting point is 01:24:54 And one. Two. Super out. Three. Four. Five. Six. Seven.
Starting point is 01:25:06 Super out. I'm happy with that. So you go to minus six. I think you're going to get that. Yeah. I'm happy with that. But I'm going to have a turkey advantage in the playoffs. Fran, you have.
Starting point is 01:25:24 An Eagles, Zach, if you want to go, you can go. No, I'm sure we're going to BS around a little bit. We have a couple more super chats. Go ahead. You've got 15 minutes to get there. Yeah. Go ahead. All right.
Starting point is 01:25:34 I look for seeing everyone tomorrow. Look for seeing everyone tomorrow. I won't see you tomorrow. We'll talk. Thank you. We love you. Great show. Don't forget your laptop.
Starting point is 01:25:47 Fran, you have any, or all Eagles running backs combined for at least 102 yards. Drew Locke throws for fewer than 228 yards. Fewer than 82% of the kickoffs in this game go for touchbacks. The Eagles finished the season number one in scoring defense, and the Eagles play the Packers in the Wild Card round. I think you got a good shot. Zach, spayed the board a little bit. Tanner McKee throws for more than 200, or he throws for at least 209 yards.
Starting point is 01:26:16 Bryce Huff leads the Eagles defensive line in snaps. Jahan Dotson leads or ties for the lead for the Eagles in receiving yards or receptions. An Eagles player has more receiving yards in the game than his jersey number. And Johnny Wilson leads the Eagles and targets. He has three turkeys to carry over. Fran has six to the negative. And then I only have the Tanner McKee poo-poo platter. And the Eagles defense forces as many or more turnovers and sacks combined
Starting point is 01:26:49 than the amount of points in which the Eagles are favored in the wild card round. And I have nine turkeys to carry over. How you feel it? Feel good certainly Best outcome for me would be a Zach win Yes for sure
Starting point is 01:27:01 You know I'm probably a little bit Worried about having So few turkeys next week But bank on the Eagles winning In the in the In the wild Yeah
Starting point is 01:27:12 We'll say And listen I mean that's why The best game there is The layers of strategy Really just fantastic Some super chats To get to
Starting point is 01:27:21 Jaden says Do you think They'll let Barclay Why or why not I think they won't because they've announced it. But, you know, we've talked about it. We talked about the beginning of the show.
Starting point is 01:27:31 Thank you for joining the show, J-Dade-S. I would recommend you to go back to the beginning of the show for the conversation. But it's a little bit, I understand being disappointed about it. It would have been a lot of fun to watch him chase it, but you got to, it makes sense because of everybody you're exposing. And also, like, you know, there's the idea of like, oh, well, like, what if you, couldn't you just have given him the first half?
Starting point is 01:27:52 But then it's like, well, then what's the line of, how close, like, let's say he's 30 yards away. Exactly, yes. Like, do you come out for the fair quarter? What if he's 50 yards away? You know? And that, and, you know, those, that's, that's with the story that's written on all page.ly.com.
Starting point is 01:28:09 And then a nice, uh, a nice super chat from Brendan who's just giving us the money. We love it, baby. Shout out to Brendan. Does he have another comment in there that, that he was trying to get in? If not, uh, we appreciate it. Uh, how was, uh, did, did Francis make it to midnight? He made it to midnight. Wow.
Starting point is 01:28:25 He started to hit the wall at like 1140. And I was like, dude, like you are so close. Like you can make it. And then he got like, it was like 1155 when he like, he got that second wind.
Starting point is 01:28:38 Okay. And he was, he was good. So we did like apple juice and champagne glasses. Nice. Yeah. And, uh, you know,
Starting point is 01:28:44 cheers and everything. It was, uh, it was fun. How late did he sleep in the next? He was up at 7.30. Yeah. The worst.
Starting point is 01:28:50 Like I was, I was, I got up normal time like get to try and get work done because he, you know, he was home. So I, I like, I get out, I'm like, all right. I know he's going to be like, building leg goes at my feet and stuff.
Starting point is 01:28:59 And I was like, all right, like, I can get up early. I can get some work done. And I was upstairs with coffee for like 40 minutes. All I hear is like the door open, his door shut, and then and he comes up the steps. And he walks in like a zombie. And I'm like, do you want to go back to bed? No. I was like, do you want to go lay with mom?
Starting point is 01:29:19 No. I was like, do you want me to get your breakfast? No. And he just laid on the floor. I'm like, go to go back. to bed, you're not missing anything. Go sleep. It's like Jane. Like, no matter what,
Starting point is 01:29:31 she's just going to get up early. It doesn't matter. Ridiculous. And she's, if she gets up without enough sleep, she's furious in the morning. She's screaming her head off. Like, Jane, I know you need more sleep because you're screaming. When you get enough sleep, you were in the best mood in the world. Like, please. No, no talking sense.
Starting point is 01:29:47 We got Mario Party on Switch Christmas, and so we've been playing a lot of Mario Party. And the thing is, like one round of Mario party, like that lowest, like the shortest, like the shortest game you play it's like 90 minutes or so so it's like 730 at night he's off school and like oh let's play around so he's been up very late like all week and then like was up super late so the night before so December 30th uh meg and i were like oh let's stay up late we'll watch we'll watch a movie like we put frances to bed he we played mario party he was up till like
Starting point is 01:30:17 9 30 10 o'clock and then we started gladiator two oh we just watched we let's gladder two on new year see it was another movie i thought the soundtrack was extremely disappointed Oh, yeah, I didn't love the soundtrack. Honestly, like the movie itself, I was, it was a little. Yeah, I didn't think Paul Mascot was up for it, really. Yeah, I thought he was okay. He was okay. I thought, like, Denzel was good.
Starting point is 01:30:36 And he was like, stealing the scenes in those movies. I thought I enjoyed it. It was like, we, it was nice to watch, like, a big movie. Sure. Like a big movie, movie. He enjoyed it. He was, Francis was, because Meg, like, dropped out, like, oh, you're going to sleep, so that, because he was, he was very upset. the fact that we were going to try and do anything without him.
Starting point is 01:30:57 We're like, dude, you're staying up tomorrow night and total night. Like, you can do this. I just, I don't know. The story, like, kind of, I thought it was, I thought it could have, would have benefited from being like an hour longer. But were they? I don't want to spoil anything for people who haven't seen it. We'll get talked about it after.
Starting point is 01:31:13 But I watched four movies this week. All right. Mufasa, Cloudator, too. Yep. His three daughters. And didn't watch that. And between the temples. Okay.
Starting point is 01:31:22 Didn't watch that either. I was a little disappointed Peg Ness migrate Well which one Leave Lion King out Okay Peck Ness migrate I would probably migrate
Starting point is 01:31:33 Between the temples Although I Okay Carol Kane was fun Um I mean I didn't love Gladiator 2 But I would probably nest Gladiator 2
Starting point is 01:31:43 Of those three And then I would peck His three daughters Which was Not bad And grew on me a little bit Um But I don't
Starting point is 01:31:53 I don't have any interest in watching it again got it okay yeah gladiator the first one is like one
Starting point is 01:32:01 it's one of my favorite movies I know you're a soundtrack man oh yeah right and I mean that soundtrack is outstanding yeah this one was just okay yeah soundtrack wise for sure
Starting point is 01:32:11 yeah okay uh Zach put your clothes back on before going to the locker rooms uh ha ha you know the one thing I'm excited for tomorrow show
Starting point is 01:32:26 uh day news put out some interesting numbers on Dallas Goddard and like the run game with and without him. Yeah. I didn't want to use it in the show because he put it out for everybody to see, but I want him to expand on it. Well, he hit publish on that, by the way. So it is. It is, yes.
Starting point is 01:32:39 It is out there for everybody to read on his Twitter and Blue Sky pages. But that is very, I thought that was really interesting. It kind of backs up some of the things that we've talked about, about the tight end and the run game being very important and Dallas's presence being missed there more than anything else. Now, I do think, oh, just to preview this conversation, I'm sure we'll have it with is. I think there's a case to be made that those numbers speak more to the people
Starting point is 01:33:02 who are replacing Dallas-Gar-th than Gutter himself. Yeah, but I would say that there aren't a lot of tight ends in football that are as good at I think Dallas is a legitimate good blocker. You know, I don't know, like he might be top ten in football, maybe, as blocking, you know, in terms of...
Starting point is 01:33:22 Like real tight ends, not just like your co-keets. Yeah, but you're like, that's like, I would, if the Eagles, had a co-keef, like, I would legitimately, like, I would legitimately, like, spend draft capital to get a co-keefed for this, for this offense, if this is the way they want to play?
Starting point is 01:33:37 If this is the way they want to play. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, okay. Would kill for a co-keef. Bet you would, am I right? All right. That'll do it for this episode of the pH, Y, Eagles podcast. A good 94-minute bad boy.
Starting point is 01:33:50 We will be back tomorrow, 2 o'clock. Dane is in studio. Zach joining us as well. And we thank you for spending your, Time with us. First show with a new year. How exciting is that?
Starting point is 01:34:02 Flanneled out. And guess what? You're going to get more friend Duffy in your life coming up pretty soon. And that's exciting. For Julia and Zach and all of us here at PHLI, thanks to you for checking out the show live. Make sure you hit subscribe, download, download, like it, all that good stuff. You know, help us out. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:34:24 And as always, we love you. y'all city like the mayor

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