PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - Owl You Know: Identifying the 30 players Howie Roseman & the Eagles are most likely to draft

Episode Date: April 18, 2025

It’s time for one of our favorite events of the year, the Owl You Know Draft in which we narrow down the most likely NFL Draft picks for Howie Roseman and the Eagles, from early-round players like Walter Nolen, Malaki Starks, Donovan Ezeiruaku, Mason Taylor, Nic Scourton to mid-round players like T.J. Sanders, JT Tuimoloau and Charles Grant to late-round options like Jaylin Smith, LeQuint Allen, Kobe King and Rayuan Lane III. Zach Berman tries to defend his title while Bo Wulf attempts to regain the crown and Fran Duffy makes his debut. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

And welcome to the PHLY Eagles show on a Friday afternoon, a beautiful spring Friday afternoon. Oh, Wolf, Fran Duffy in the middle, Zach Berman on the other side and on the other side of the country. Zach, how you doing? How has your time been in Colorado? Doing well. Great to see you guys. I miss being on yesterday's show. There was a little, you know, remorse there, but I'm thrilled to be where I was and where I am.

I had a great time on a panel, which with our friend. Shoka Patti, our friend Lindsay Jones. Awesome too, that there were listeners and viewers who came. Shout out to Shay. Shout out to Hannah. There were others. And it was, it was, it was really nice. So I truly appreciate that. But you said beautiful. It's beautiful to look at right now. I'm looking at my window. It is snowing here. So much so that the, uh, Rocky game I was going to go to tonight has already been postponed. Are you in a, are you in a dorm room? With that like a white brick behind you? I'm in a really nice hotel.

Fort Collins delivers. Colorado State delivered for me. So, awesome campus. Took a campus tour. It was spreading the PHLY name as much as I could. But yeah, I am not in the dorm room.

I'm in a hotel room. And it's not great. Walking around the Union. This is like shiplap. tapping coeds on the shoulder saying, hey, have you heard about PHLY? I did not do that.

No. Fran, how was the event last night at J.D. McGillicuddies? It was great. No, it was a lot of fun. Appreciate all the diehards that came out. We had a great time. Over at J.D. McGillacutty's down in Mannyunk, myself, Anthony Gargano, Jamie Lynch was there. Obviously, Vince and Julia, an outstanding job behind the scenes.

Chris Frezza. We had Devon, and we had Kyle Neubeck. We had the Neubeck parents. The whole Neubeck clan was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun. Awesome. We can check that out. on the PHAI Eagles YouTube feed.

Today, though, we have a very special treat. One of the... How are you, though? That's what we want to know. Most importantly, how are you? We're hanging in. We went to the hospital last night. We were sent away from the hospital,

and so we're playing the waiting game. I didn't mean in a rock. It's important that we get that on the record. We want to know how you're doing. That's what the chat wants. There's no news yet. If there was news, I wouldn't be here. That's right. Fair enough.

Right. I think I think there's a good chance that I will not be there on the shows Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. I'll see you guys on draft night. How about that? Fair enough. Sounds good. That sounds great. Okay. And that is why we are doing this exercise today, arguably the premier pre-draft game in the PHLY, Birds with Friends, Expanded Universe. We're going to play turkeys to the draft kingdom during the draft live on Thursday. in the lead-up to the Eagles pick at 32. We're looking forward to that.

I think on Wednesday, you guys are going to go ahead and give your final seven-round Eagles mock drafts. But today is a very fun exercise. This is the owl you know draft in which the three of us will each draft 10 players, so 30 total, players who we think are the most likely players to be selected by the Eagles over the course of draft weekend. The way the scoring works is that a correct pick

in a later round counts more than a pick in the earlier rounds. A first round pick, every round is, every correct peg is the round they were drafted plus three points. So a first round pick, four points. A second round pick, five points on and on to the seventh round, which is 10 points. And Zach, for the first time, I believe, you are the defending, Al you know, champion after what was a resounding dominance of draft weekend. by you last year, breaking news left and right, and winning the Alley, you know, draft in which I

believe, Julia, if you can flash it up, you had three correct pegs. You got Cooper DeGine, who was your first round pick here. You had Jalick's Hunt, and you had Anaya Smith as well, defeating me and Sheel, who both had pretty impressively correctly pegged sixth round picks in Johnny Wilson and your boy, Dylan McMahon. How do you feel, Zach? You feel like puffing your chest out. Did you remember that you won this game? I remembered that I accurately paid picks that I did not remember winning it. I don't feel as confident going into this year. We'll see.

I got a week left here for the draft. So I'll feel stronger next week. We usually do it the week of. Is that right? We usually do, yes. Yeah, okay. Yeah. So there's sometimes like laid information that you're getting, laid intel that you're getting.

so yeah so but and we got friend here who is so plugged in some little word going into this one but we'll see how it goes now we also have the results from 2023 in which i was victorious and i think i've won other ones before that unfortunately the search algorithm for like denise's spreadchids doesn't really go beyond 2003 but julia was able to pull up two thousand 23s in which i just pantsed you and Sheila. Both of you were completely shut out. And I had Nolan Smith, Jalen Carter, and Keel Ringo. So dominance there. Fran, I imagine as a as a long time listener to this game, you might, you must be excited to dip your toe in the water and debut and maybe flex a muscle. Yeah, this is a this is a fun game. I mean, it's no, it's no swooper. But, you know, we'll,

we'll, we'll see how I do. Well, there's only one super champion at the moment anyway. Okay, so Zach, as defending champion, you get to decide. Do you want to go first, second, or third? First. First. All right, then we will go. I'm the two, I'm, usually I would give the newcomer the second pick, but since I won two years ago, I'm taking the second pick, and Fran, you get, you get the other snake.

That's work. All right. So, Zach, any refresher on the rules? You want to talk about the way that you went about this process. You want to just get right into it. Yeah, I think we should get right into it. You did a good job explaining the rules. And the process really is trying to ascertain interest fit.

I don't pay as much attention to round as I probably should, given the scoring system, but just players that you think make sense for the Eagles based on what you're hearing, and what you know about how the team thinks. And before you get into it, Zach, I will say just to remind the people that this particular Al-Iano draft and this entire episode. And every episode leading up to the draft is sponsored by the good folks at TrueMark Financial Credit Union.

Thank you to True Mark Financial. All right, kick us off, Zach. Who you got? Yeah, my first overall pick is the player, I think, is they're most likely to draft in the first round, and that is Walter Nolan. I think if I had to say, yeah, so I think if Walter Nolan is on the board at 32,

the Eagles will draft him. And I think even if I don't think a slight trade-up but I think Walter Nolan's the most likely Eagles target. Interesting. Fran, how did you go about this? Do you have an ordered big board or do you just have a cluster of guys and you're going to sort of do it on the fly? I've got three clusters and we're just going to go on the fly. I didn't want to prep too much.

I didn't want to have paralysis by overanalysis. I didn't want to stack them. I just said, let's go with clusters. I'll see how the board plays because I figured Walter Nolan would go first. We'll see how the board plays out the rest of the way. Okay. Now I did because I had to be prepared for the possibility that I wouldn't be here for this episode. So I had to make myself a top 30 in order that I could send to Julia if I was going to miss it. And I ended up coming up with about, it looks like about 50 players total and then paired that down to the 30.

No one of it was number 10 on my board. I think it's a reasonable pick. But I'm using my first round pick. I'm thinking of a player who could be the pick at 32 if they had to sort of hold their number. knows. Could be the pick if they trade down from 32. Could be the pick in the second round if they trade up from 64 or even potentially could be there at 64. I'm looking for a little bit of optionality. This is another player that we have discussed a lot in addition to Walter Nolan. And that is Nick Scorton from Texas. I think there are multiple ways in which Nick Scorton could land with the Eagles.

And I think for the reasons we've talked about, he makes sense as an Eagles target. not just a one-trick pony as an edge rusher brings that physicality that you would think uh vick fangio would like so i feel i feel i feel i feel pretty good about scorton uh here yeah there's my these are my first two uh players i had written down so i i don't want to too much group thing yeah i'm not i'm not thrilled with uh with how this has gone so far but scorten's a good pick for all the reasons you laid out i think that he's a good scheme fit i think he's uh he fits the profile we talk about like the youth uh you know the production at a young age uh there's a lot to like there, Zach. Yes, Scortons probably the much better value pick here. Good job by Boe with the

optionality because you get more points in the second round. I wouldn't roll out him being there as the Eagles pick at 64. And the one thing I'll say is I'm going to give Frank credit to this for, well, for many things, but this too, because, you know, a few months ago or a few weeks ago, when you bring up a name, people are like, there's no way that guy's not there beyond the first round, right? And then when he starts to sleep, you know, and then when you start to see these mock drafts now, they, uh, players are falling down the board or because people realize there aren't going to be 50 players in the first round, right? There's only 32. So now you start seeing mock drafts with some of these guys, people thought we're going round one now in round two. And I think, uh, I wouldn't

be surprised if some of these potential round one targets are kind of sitting on the board middle of round two. Yeah. And squorton is a guy that I have liked through the process. I, coming into the year, a lot of people thought he could be like a top. 10 top 15 type. That was always a little rich for me. Obviously, if he took that next step this year, maybe he could ascend to that. But this is right around the range

where I would have felt comfortable with him the entire way. So yeah, I like the value there. All right. So for my first pick and my, I double dip, right? We're going to, we're going to snake. Just confirming. Yes, yes.

Okay. All right. So I'm going to go Mason Taylor here, the tight end from LSU. I think that to me, it would be surprising if the Eagles got out of the second day of the draft without addressing the tight end. position and to me that comes down to a couple names and mason taylor is a player that uh we believe

that they like uh he makes sense for them at the end of round one potentially based off the latest buzz uh and kind of like scorton if they do have a trade up it seems like he would be out of reach by trying to get up from 64 to where he's likely to go but tight ends tend to fall uh come draft weekend so i'm going to go mason taylor uh as a potential option there for the end of round one or you know with some kind of a movement there from howie roseman i like that too he was high at my board. He was high on my board as well. I think he was actually number five on my board. Good pick. I do. This is another one where there are some possible options for them at 32. You've also heard some scuttle butt of the Eagles being interested in him. I will say,

as we've talked about, like if that's the pick at 32, I don't know if that's, if I'm going to think that's a great pick, but that's a separate discussion. I would not personally. Like I like the player. I don't love the player. We've talked about the schematic things with him. I think you'd have to work around as a blocker early on. And it's not like you're going to funnel him targets in this offense, right? He's going to be a key portion of the past game. But you have AJ Brown. You have Devante Smith.

You have Sequin Barkley. And so, yeah, I would have some questions there about the addition as well. But just following breadcrumbs from that standpoint. My next one, I'm going to go with, I'm going to go with a day three player. I'm going to dip into this, into this stash early. Love it. This is a player that Zach had highlighted as a potential. Red Star player, I believe, earlier this week.

And that's Clemson linebacker, Barrett Carter, a player that there's been some connection to, former teammate of Jeremiah Trader Jr. The Eagles also selected Will Shipley out of Clemson last year. So clearly some comfort there with that program. Let's go with Barrett Carter, the high character, three-year starter, he was a good athlete, a young senior. I'm going to go with Barrett Carter, the senior linebacker from the Clemson Tigers. I like that pick.

I like the player. I like the fit. It wouldn't surprise me if they take Barrett Carter if he wins a starting job while Nikobie Dean is injured. I think he could potentially beat out Jeremiah Trotter Jr. Tough, friendly fire from the former Tiger teammates. Yeah, one quick thing I wanted to add to the Mason Taylor pick, and Fran and I can discuss this next week.

But it's interesting when you look at the way the first round might shape out, 31, the Chiefs could be interested in an edge rusher, could be interested in a tight end. And actually, the reason I bring this up is because, when the Eagles won the Super Bowl last time, Jeffrey Lurie said, I'm sorry, when the Eagles lost the Super Bowl, the Chiefs won, Jeffrey Lurie said Nolan Smith was actually the Chief's target.

The Chiefs were trying to trade with the Eagles to get the Eagles pick so they could take Nolan Smith. The Eagles asked Brett Veach, what position they were going. Brett Veach didn't answer, and they kind of figured that Nolan Smith was their target. Interesting. All right, I will use my second round pick on another player who the Eagles have brought in for a pre-draft visit.

this is another edge rusher and this is another player who gives you a little bit of optionality could be a mid-second round pick could be the pick at 64 could slide beyond that and even be a maybe a trade-up target in round three we're talking about UCLA's Femiola Dejo and I feel like this is the kind of player we talked about it before I think there is some connectivity between the J-Lex Hunt story and Femiola-Dajio I think you know because he's he's late to the position made the transition from Langeau. There is some pass rush upside. You like the physical tools.

And there's also like you can rely on him being being pretty good against the run. And he sort of strikes me as potentially a Vic type. I'm okay with you taking him because I feel like a lot of teams are going to be in on him. So I feel like there's more potential for for him to get scooped up. So I'm okay with this picked by you. I think that's fair. All right. We'll go over you, Zach.

Close out the second round. And then we'll head to ads after that. Yes. So I'm going with another player. This probably isn't a good strategy, but a player I think will be in the mix in the first round and could actually be a potential tradeback. So I get that first second possibility.

That's Josh Connerley. I think Josh Connolly makes a lot of sense as the offensive. I think he's the offensive lineman that Eagles would most likely take at 32 if they were to take an offensive lineman. And, you know, there's, I'll defer to Fran, but, you know, there is a thought that he could play guard. So I'm going Josh Connerley at the spot. You think he would be, when you say the most likely pick at 32, you mean the most likely to be there and be picked?

Or like among the players who could potentially be there, you think they like him the most? No, I'm sorry, of the offensive tackles. Yeah, the most likely offensive tackle at that third. I think Walter Nolan's the most likely pick. But if you said who's the most likely offensive tackle to take it at 32, yeah, I think Josh Connerly is the most likely to be there who they would like. Okay. So what I'm asking is, is this more about him being there or more about you think that the Eagles would prefer him to other players of similar? Josh Simmons, Arionte, Ersary, guys like that. Yeah, him being there, number one, that's probably the first thing I would say, but also the athletic profile.

And, you know, knowing kind of what they value in offensive linemen and the upside potential, that's, that's, that's why I'm going kind of. Okay. I don't love Connerley. Not not from a predicting standpoint, but from a like I don't know if he could play guard. He doesn't, he may not have that sand in his pants as we talked about with Brandon Thorne. But I believe that you're, I believe that you're well sourced. So I'm, I'm interested by this one. Very athletic player. And I think that would be the unusual quality with him is a he does have plus athleticism plus movement for the position. I do think that that would be a. That would be a. question of early on, like would he be able to definitely win the right guard job, uh, essentially a left tackle, making that move over, uh, to right guard, different position, different side. Uh, that would be interesting to see how that would play out. But that's not the game. We're talking, uh, we're talking like, you know, likeliness. Not the game. All right, let's take a quick break here from our sponsors and then we'll kick off the third round of the

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And he's gone. I hope we lost it for a good reason. Is that it? Did he get the call? I can't imagine that he would have just bolted. Did you get the call? I'm looking for better headphones. Oh.

Can't do that to us. Yeah, seriously. I was on Phil's Sports Talk on Comcast Sports Night back when, or NBC Sports, really, rather, when Sloan was, when Nem was Waterbrook was Sloan, rushed off the set, went home, went to the hospital,

But yeah, remember that well. You can ask Amy Fadol, I probably never ran faster than running to my car that day. Put those high days in Jim. Yes, yeah, seriously. So I am up again here. And you know what? I am going to go with a late round swing. Okay?

Or he's actually not so late if you follow the great mock draft from our friend, friend Duffy, our colleague, our friend. And that is, I'm going with someone who is not just big, it's not just athletic. He is smart enough to intern for Senator Amy, Amy Klobuchar. I am going with Yale and Travis, because if you're bringing in a potential day three guy to visit you, then that stands out to me.

and I think there's a lot of athletic traits there in size that they might look for. So probably a little early, it's a little earlier for me. But because I went with two potential first round targets, I'm trying to make a play for some points here. I just want to circle back. Did you, it was almost as if you were, when you talked about friend that you were saying that colleague was even better than friend. Like, he's our friend.

He's actually our colleague, as if that was one-upping friend. No, no, no, no. He's our friend and colleague and draft expert here at All City. Thank you. Okay. I'm happy to be your colleague. How quickly after the Eagles draft Jalen Travis, Zach, will you place a call to Amy Klobuchar's office? Oh, yeah.

And that's the Monday after the draft, right? May I speak to Senator Klobuchar about his experience with Jailen Travis? Okay. Yeah, we've talked about him. I think there are reasons to think that the Eagles could be intrigued by the size. but we'll see. You know what? The next player on my board is so similar to my first two picks that I'm going to probably not do it.

You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to stay true to my board. I preach stay true to your board. I got to do it. So my first three picks are all going to be pretty similar. And this is the first of the three who the egos have not brought in for a pre-draft visit. But I do believe would fit the exact same things we've been talking about with Scorton and Oladio. probably a little bit less physical upside, but more polish on the edge.

And more to the point, someone who I think could make sense for the Eagles at any point from, you know, early second round through mid third round if he's on the board. And that is JT. Tui Moloow from Ohio State. That's my next pick, Paul. Interesting. So that's a pick I would give. I would give high reviews on JT. on that pick.

I really like the player. I think he's being under appreciated during this draft cycle. Problem is I'm not going to hit on multiple picks of my first three. I'm hoping that one of these first three hits. So I do got to start to diversify a little bit. But I do feel like he's a player who the Eagles will be interested in. All right. I'm going to go, man, I was really hoping to get JTT there.

Let's go. This would be a trade-down option from round one, you know, going into round two. potentially he could be a pick at 32 uh let's go with landin jackson the pass rusher from arkansas uh this is a guy that has the long frame i've made i think there are some similarities in the profile to josh sweat when sweat was coming out of florida state where uh he was used so often tight to the formation now you're going to kind of line them up a little bit further out wide cut them loose high effort player good run defender skilled rusher uh they have not been afraid of guys that haven't produced at a high level in the SEC similar to those georgia kids uh jackson

didn't put up huge, huge numbers from a production standpoint, but I think there's a lot of traits in his body that he could turn into a better pass rusher moving forward than he was in college level. All right. I like that. I like Lana Jackson. He was in my top 30, but on the lower end,

but that's a good one. Just so you know, I'm going to refresh my feed because it's been a little chappet for me. You can keep talking friend, Julia, and you'll have to let me in again. Got it. All right, so then my next one, I'm going to go with a position that I've already addressed.

So like Bo just said, you're kind of, you know, you're eliminating one or the other. But I like the thought of cornering the market here on the tight end spot. And I'm going to go with Elijah Arroyo, the tight end from Miami with the Eagles, potentially selecting a tight end on day two. Let's go with the Miami kid. Very dynamic player, an upside swing. But I'll take with the guy who stood out at the senior bowl, had a great senior year. Let's go with Elijah Arroyo. this is good for you after after drafting mason taylor first now with back-to-back picks you're doubling down on the the double upside of not only would the eagles draft a player who you love in landed jackson and elijah royo but you would also get value no points so this is good investment in my seven round mock draft as well

A triple, a triple thread for Elijah. Will the Eagles, Zach, keep a chair open for Elijah? You know, he's someone that Fran clearly really likes, and I respect Fran's opinion here. So I think it's a possibility. My sense is that they like Mason Taylor more, but Mason Taylor could be off the board earlier than that. And good job by Julia, flashing up that great die-hard deal.

going on right now, $36 an hour. $36 for the whole year. This deal is open through the NFL draft. Great time to get in. You get Fran Duffy's coverage. And there's actually what is really, really cool is that they're building this thing out where you know how we are going to be live throughout the entire draft process. You can, there's going to be this thing on the site where you will have like access to franz big board and all the scouting reports the same stuff that's in the diehard draft guide with a window in there for the live draft show it's like your one-stop shop for everything you need the $36 price is like worth it just for that yeah all set uh okay i'm gonna go um i have a lot of guys in that late round one round two range i'm gonna now go with a guy who was i think more round two

to mid-round-three range, a little bit of optionality. And again, this is a player who the Eagles have brought in for a pre-draft visit. We talk about the critical factors. We're talking here about the big, monstrous, violent hands tackle from NC State, Anthony Belton. That's my pick here. It strikes me as a bit of a stout guy. Maybe a touch older than you might like, but someone who is of the developmental tackle, but also if you want someone who can approximate what Mackay Beckton had

as a run blocker at Right Guard could potentially bring some of that. He can talk to Anthony Belton about their birth year. I'm sorry, he can talk to Kenyon Green rather about their birth year because they're both the same age. That's fair. It's kind of like the situation with Keely Ringo and Quinyan Mitchell. What's that situation? Yeah, what is that?

I feel like just mentioning it and passing. I just mentioned it. Okay. Yeah. All right. Zach, back to you for your snake. Okay, so I'm going to keep hitting the offensive tackles hard here. This is a personal favorite of mine,

and I can see it as somebody who they liken a similar ill to the upside developmental players from talking about it. That is Charles Grant from William and Mary. You know what I knew you were going to draft him. He was on my board. Yeah. He's someone who I had on my mock draft a few weeks ago. And I just think he's, I can see him as a developmental player with intangible characteristics that they like in an athletic profile that they like as well.

A lot of pure tackles for you, Zach, Connerley, Travis, and Grant. Yeah, you know, they once said, Mackay Beckton was a pure tackle too. So that's, that's why, you know, you have Jeff Stoutland. He's pretty good at developing players. but yeah i view charles grant as yeah as a developmental tackle and especially and another guy you've got you've got a nice variety of round possibilities here yeah yeah so charles so i i think there's less of a chance of josh connerly in the first round if they don't think he can play guard at all but i think um charles grant when you're getting to

like round three if you get a swing tackle with starting potential in round three i think that's that's a valuable pick uh so that i'm going charles grant thank And then I'm going to take a, you know what, you can go back to round one here. And that is now that Ikeye Starks, okay? Okay. Because I do think he was on the thumbnail. Yeah, I wanted to hook up the thumbnail. I didn't want to go 31 minutes without getting to that.

But also, if Malachi, you know, I don't think they want to take a safety in the first round. I think there's going to be value on either line of scrimmage. But if Malachi Starks is there at 32, the value might screen too good to be true. And you've got to trust your board. And it's an impact player who can start from day one. Good one. Good one. Yeah, you're the one who's been, I think, most vocal about being,

would be surprised if they drafted a safety in round one. But I do think there's a chance of the board could fall that way. All right. I will use my fifth round pick here, or almost halfway through, on a day three pick who could potentially feel like if they draft a defensive end on the first two days, you could talk yourself into him as a defensive tackle. If they draft a defensive tackle on the first two days, you could talk yourself into him as a defensive end.

They have brought him in for a pre-draft visit. You don't want that versatility. We're talking to him here about another Elijah SMA's Elijah Robert. E. Okay. Good pick. He was on my list. You know, this is a pure, like, defensive end type, very violent hands. To me, fits the play style that Vic Fangio looks for for those edge players. And he's got the ability to kick inside at times as well.

That's what I'm counting on. All right, Fran, over to you to close out the first half of this draft. So I'm looking at this. There's a few different guys I was thinking about. I am going to go with a versatile offensive lineman, potentially versatile offensive lineman here, a guy that has been a right tackle by trade, but a lot of people feel like his best position may be guard coming from LSU.

Let's go to Emery Jones, the from LSU. That I think could be third round, fourth round, potentially. But let's go with Emery Jones out of LSU. That's a fun one. Zach, tell us here, Emery Jones story, one more time. My Emery Jones story one more time for those who do not hear the show

is I was sitting or I went to LSU and I'm real excited to see Emery Jones and Will Campbell and I really wanted to sound like a football guy talking to the scouts but they told me you should pay attention to Miles Frazier. But I was pumping up Emery Jones

but also in my August mock draft or July mock draft I picked Emery Jones in the first round. So if he goes in round four here, round three. I probably can't tweet that link out although we want diehard. So anything that bring, you know,

he's got, yeah, you don't know, I'd say he was mocked to the Eagles back in July. I didn't say it went round. So get people to click on that, subscribe to be a diehard. I've done it before. Yes. All right.

I like that. Since we're at the halfway point, why don't we take a quick break for the super chat that we have? And that is from Avery S, who says, Zach, do you just stand there like a statue while you brush your teeth? Wouldn't it be more efficient to sit down and pee at the same time?

That's two extra minutes for Pope Health updates. Hashtag he's peeing. Yeah, Avery, I'm usually listening to a podcast when I'm brushing my teeth. So I try to be efficient when I do that. You know, you can knock out two minutes of a podcast right there. Or close to four minutes. Yeah, true. I was with, I had dinner and breakfast this morning, but I had dinner with, you know, Dr. Goldsmith, great, you know, head of the department, avid listener to the show.

He listens on 3x speed. Can you believe that? 3x. Yes. I am blown away by this. I'm sorry. I can't. That is.

There's something wrong with him. Because I talk fast. So me at 3X must be. I know. I do feel like my speed of talking. has been affected by this speed at which I agree yeah me too but three eight three X couldn't believe it and uh yeah now that could uh she or sheill's daughter they couldn't believe that three X I think she'll's daughter has a name I didn't know if if I'm supposed to

mention her name on the show I mean he's trying to protect the youth here although she's more sure than I mean I got to say it was like I was having like a real long sophisticated conversation with her. I was so impressed. Like she's, she's smart. She's with it. So yeah. What about? I really enjoyed. Just generally.

Yeah. She says I need to sleep more. I told her, I told her opportunity. I told her opportunity. It's not a lengthy visitor. And as a response to the sleep thing? Yeah, because I said that, you know, I know I need to sleep more, but there's a lot going on right now between writing a book and covering the draft that you know, you have to take advantage of this opportunity when it's there. And you don't want to look back and say that you use sacrifice this opportunity because you wanted a little more sleep.

So there's going to be enough time to sleep once everything's finished. Yeah, but you make sleep sound like a luxury only afforded to slackers when. And in fact, it is something that increases the quality of the work that you do and the life that you live. True, true. Yeah, she also, as you see in the chat, she was giving great advice about being girl, the Shay. Really? And then, yeah, and then what else? Yeah, we were talking about Lulu Lemon.

You know, she liked the black hat that I said thank you because Beau, both gives me a hard time about this hat. I don't give you a hard time. It's just a funny hat. Okay. All right. Fran, start us off with the first pick around six. Your roster so far,

Mason Taylor, Barrett Carter, Landon Jackson, Elijah Arroyo, and Emery Jones. Yeah, let's go, I'm going to go with a safety here.

Day two option, a player we talked about yesterday with our friend, Sean Syed. I'm going to go with Andrew McCuba, the safety. Interesting. You know, this is a very violent player. You know, plays top down, can run the alley, can make plays on the football, no panic downfield.

We went through the whole scouting report with Sean yesterday. Make sure you go back and listen to that entire episode. But McCuba, with the safety that's out to be on day two. Are you, were you moved by the fact that Sean in trying to step into the mind of Vic Fanjo, that the one that he identified as potentially a fit was Macuba. I cannot confirm nor deny that that may have moved the needle for me a little bit as opposed to some of the other options on the table, but I agree with a lot of the things that Sean said about him.

Okay, good pick. Yeah. I'm going to say, move a book next week, I'll just give you a sneak peek. He is in my seven-round mock draft for the Eagles. There you go. Third round? We'll get to the round next week. I don't want to give everything away here.

Okay. All right, I am going to go with another player in the secondary. Another player who the Eagles have brought in for a pre-draft visit. You talk about the critical factors. You talk about the optionality that you might want in the secondary. Can Cooper DeGine stay inside? Maybe this guy could play outside. If you want to move Cooper to Jean to the outside, maybe this guy could play inside. It's got some impressive speed. We're talking about Kansas State's Jacob Parrish. 5-10, 21 years old, 191 pounds, five interceptions over the course of his three careers.

And of course, he ran that blazing 435 at the Combine. Jacob Parrish is my picking around six. I like it. Yeah, Parrish is a pun player. I like Parrish. You mentioned the inside, outside versatility. I do think he could do a little bit of both. A little bit grabby.

He kind of toes that line there, but the competitiveness definitely shows up with him. he's one of my favorite day two type of corners and dbs in this class like that all right sack over to you yeah so i i i already um i'm not enjoying the fact that i'm too first round heavy here uh but i can't go this long without not picking an edge rusher when i say the most likely picking the first round is uh is is is walter no one the most likely position is edge rusher similar to last year how i said the most likely position was offensive tackle. The most likely pick was Cooper DeGine, right?

So I am going with Donovan as a Raku. And I know that there's a chance he might not be there. Fran had a good intel last week or the good nugget about Tampa Bay. I also think like Detroit would be, he strikes me as a Detroit possibility as well. So maybe he does not fall. But as we've discussed and as Fran told me, not every. edge rusher can be taken in like the, I don't think edge rushers are going to be like offensive tackles last year where they're all off the board in the first 20 picks, right?

So if he were to slip, I just think the profile makes a lot of sense for the Eagles. It's almost, I mean, this is one where right when we began discussing the draft in, you know, two weeks after the Super Bowl in February, it was like, oh, this is a guy who would make sense at 32, right? And he may go earlier, but, but other than that. Otherwise, given the profile, you know, Fran doesn't love him quite as much as some do, but you could, you could sort of see it.

And then for my next pick, I'll go more mid, I'll go more middle round. The only running back who was not here on a local visit, so the only running back they had to fly in, okay, that we know. Yeah, boy. And that is Jaden Blue.

um jaden blue who can run back he is he is a running back yes and um i thought bow hit it on the head in our running back show about you know how he's profile of going with running backs who don't have the same volume as you know some of like the top of the you know as some other backs the only time they really took a high volume back was donnell pumpfrey clearly did not work out So there's some upside in blue. I think the speed can help you on special teams as well. So if they take a running back, I think Jaden Blue makes sense. Okay, good one.

All right, let's see. It's interesting, Fran, I don't believe that any of your six picks so far have been pre-draft visits. I think you're, Zach and I feel like we're trying to do an open book test here. and you're going straight on your own. You've been doing your own research. I like that. I respect that.

It's a very Aaron Rogers of me. All right. I'm going to take a mid-round option at defensive tackle, who did not come in for a pre-draft visit, but a player who we talked about, they like traits at this position, and the trait here, super long arms.

And a good enough track record on Phil. 633305, 22 years old, in four years at Florida State. 11 sacks, not too bad. He's got those 35-inch arms. The man is Joshua Farmer, and he will be my seventh round pick. I like Joshua Farmer. Yeah, I think that when you're looking at him, he's stout, he's disruptive, he can hold up against the run. You can, he's got more of like a nose tackle type of build and skill set, but he played a lot of three technique for that team he's got a versatile skill set he's a fun player and i think yeah to to your point that's giving you sort of like you know he's not a jordan davis replacement right but if things

don't work out with jordan davis he could stay and play in that position and he's also got the personality to play alongside a jordan davis or in a you know more of a third down pass rushing role yep i agree um hmm see like since i just did the seven round mock i've been going back and forth of do i like guys I hide in the mock or do I take credit for that later and I don't need to take no no diversify your bets this way I mean you you get to pat yeah don't give yourself more opportunities to pat yourself on the back I got to take the uh the bull wolf plan there um all right so first one I mean I am the only one here who correctly predicted the Eagles first round pick last year let's go with um I'm gonna go another day two safety uh I'm gonna go with

Kevin Winston, Jr., the safety of Penn State. To be a young, high character swing, the classic. You know, we can hear Howie now at the podium. You know, this guy, if he's healthy, he's in the word. We don't have a chance to pick him in this spot. I think that this was, he checks a lot of the markers. He was a team captain as a red shirt sophomore. So, you know, it was very highly regarded.

He's got that dog mentality. Let's go with Kevin Winston, Jr. Yeah, that'd be a great pick for the Eagles. You know, I'll defer to, well, man, as far as the medical grade there, but Fran's absolutely right. If Kevin Winston Jr. were healthy, you'd be talking about him, maybe not in the Stark's category, but really not far behind. I mean, it's more just like you can already, it's almost as if Howie has already said it. Yeah, you're right. The full explanation.

All right, go ahead. So then for my next one. I'm going to go. Let's go with Harold Fannan Jr. Let's go with another tight end here. I'm going to do it. I'll just say like, if they end up with a tight end on day two,

I'm really hedging my bet here. This is a player that Scott Leffler, their new quarterbacks coach, coach to huge heights at Bowling Green, was the most productive tight end. One of the most productive tight ends in college football history. When you look at last season,

over 100 catches, you know, just insane numbers across the board. No need to do any kind of visits with them because you've got a voice on the staff that knows him very well. So if you miss out on a Royal, you miss out on Mason Taylor,

I think you get into round three, the end of round three, and Harold Fanon Jr. would make sense. It's a good one. I mean, we've already connected to the dots. This is interesting now

for you to have fully covered the day two tight end options, it feels like. I will return serve. It's Terrence Ferguson, by the way. Yeah. Oh, God.

Well, that's the point. Yeah. Well, yeah. I'm going to return serve by taking a day three tight end, potentially. And this is a player who actually surprisingly, and shout out to Dirty Dan, who made the case that we forgot to talk about this guy. I don't know that we forgot to talk about him. We just didn't talk about him.

And that is Mitchell Evans from Notre Dame, who I think is one of the guys who could give you some projectability as he could grow into a true all around. tight end brings you a little bit of receiving chops does enough as a blocker um Mitchell Evans from Notre Dame we're thinking round four round five potentially I'm taking my my dark throw there yeah um we we we didn't omit them in that tight end show we should talk about them uh and Notre Dame tight ends are I I would rather trade for him for Michael mayor if you're going with the Notre Dame tight end but um they take Michael if they take you know Mitchell Evans I I I I certainly get it.

Okay. How many picks I have? This is your last snake. So you have three picks left. Okay. Okay. Okay. So I usually like to go with my own intel and my own feeling.

Okay. But I'm going to go with someone else's Intel here. I hope that's okay. Our friend Tony Paul E. Ooh. Correctly paid Ham Jurgents to the, He's in the second round. So Tony Pauline has, he has his antenna up on Eagles offensive line second round ideas, right?

And so when he has a name in there that is not like, you know, universally linked to the Eagles, the antenna goes up. You know, Tony puts work in when he's not running. I haven't seen this. Okay. He had a mock where in the second round. I thought it was a little early for this, but he knows what's up. In the second round, he had the Eagles going with Wyatt Millum. from West Virginia.

Why, Milam, who they brought in for, they did bring in for a pre-draft visit, I believe. Yeah, exactly. So I tend to think that,

you know, they go for more of like the upside play, but this is the guy who was a four-year starter. This is, I mean, I'll defer to Fran for the scouting report, has played both sides, uh,

you know, a real good college career at West Virginia. Uh, so this is an, so the fact that Tony Paul, we put that out there, certainly has my antenna up. Yeah, Milam is a really tough, competitive player.

I wonder if he's, he's one of those players. To me, you're looking at offensive line prospects for the Eagles, and it's like, okay, do you have the unusual traits, or are you just uniquely versatile? You mentioned he's got the left side, right side capability. A lot of people feel with his lack of length, and he's got very, very short arms that he's going to have to kick into guard. So going to the senior ball, most of his reps came in the interior,

and he really struggled. He had a bit of a rough week down in Mobile at the Senior Bowl, just as he's getting accustomed to sliding in. So I think that he probably goes in like that Jack Driscoll range, like in that fourth round area, him going in the second round would be a little surprising, you know, just based off how things have gone really since the season ended. But yeah, he's a he's a fun player to watch. Like I think that he's got that toughness, that competitiveness that you look for. And Brandon Thorne, of course, referenced him as like, you know, because of the offense they play and it's hard to really evaluate him as a past. protector just because of the situations.

I think that's fair. And then I was going to save this. I was going to save this for my for my last pick, but I don't want to get too greedy. So I'm going to use this here as my nine pick. And this is not someone that I believe we've discussed. I'd have to go back and listen. We discussed a lot of names. This is someone whose name was brought up to me as just like, hey, Zach, keep your

eye at this guy here. Okay. And. Zach, that's a good tease. because we forgot to do the second break. So that's a good tease. We're going to tell you who Zach's talking about in just a second. Yes.

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You're meeting some source in the dark garage somewhere, and they whisper to you. They say, listen, keep an eye out on. It is the Tyrian Ingram Dawkins from Georgia, okay, who is 21 years old. six five, 280 pounds, 33 inch arms, okay? You know,

didn't really start until this past year, but, you know, he was on a team that was loaded and, you know, could be,

you know, I think he's a fitness defense and just he's, he's someone who was brought up to me to watch out for. So, you know,

there's other guys in the Georgia scheme who get a lot more attention, but, you know, this, this is a, this is a, a name to store away. Any thoughts on that, Fran? Yeah, very, he's an, he's an interesting player,

uh, kind of a hybrid edge defensive tackle combo, 275, 280 pounds, went to the combine and he was, he practiced, he worked out with the defensive line with the interior guys and he had some of the best athletic testing numbers. And so everybody got excited and was like, oh, man, he's, he's, but you got to remember since he's 275 and he was the lightest of that group, his numbers are going to look better. Right. So, uh, I think when you're looking at, uh, Ingram Dawkins, this is a guy that didn't really produce much at all over the course of his career, didn't become a starter until this past year. I do think he's a little bit raw. But I think when you're looking at a high upside swing with that versatile skill set, he's got that hybrid like Milton Williams kind of body type.

Yeah. I think he makes sense for a profile standpoint. All right. That's a fun one. I like port of tracking that. We can then maybe circle back on who this source was. Give him a little extra, a little extra lettuce. All right. I didn't, I've been trying to stay away. I want to hit some late round guys, but there's one guy on my board who's standing out like a sore thumb. It was my fifth overall player, and I had already banged a bunch of late first, mid-second, late-second type guys. But I'm going to do one more just because the value is too good. And you talk about the versatility. We know we can play guard, showed he could play tackle a little bit, but more likely a guard. And I think a player who makes sense for the Eagles in some different draft situations,

that's Donovan Jackson, the offensive lineman from Ohio State. Good one. Yeah, he was one of my... That's a good one. He was on my board. Yep. All right. So my last two picks here. I am going to go...

I'm going to go with a mid-round offensive lineman. I've got one already from LSU. So I'm going to go with the other one. I'm going to go with Miles Frazier, the senior offensive linemen, from the Bayou Bengals down there. Really good position versatility. He played left tackle, right tackle, left guard and right guard over the course of his career, going back to FIU and then eventually at LSU. His best year was as a senior.

He goes to the senior ball. I thought he was solid. When I was talking with a scout from a different NFC team, he said, oh, he's not really a fit for us, but he would be a great fit for the Eagles. And I was a guy, I was like, yeah, like that I think that's a player that would fit them. When you talk about bigger guards that have that proven versatility, I like the idea of Miles Trazier here in Eagles Green. Okay, I like that. I'm trying to figure out of the pick next. I don't know.

The last one is going to be, it's a first round player. It's a first round player. I would be remiss. I mean, our friend Anthony Gargano has said numerous times over the last couple of weeks. And he said, you know, I think it's going to be either Walter Nolan or this player. And that player is Marshall Pass Rusher Mike Green, you know, probably would require a slight trade up. But I'm going to follow because I'm going to follow because here. I'm going to go with Mike Green for my 10th pick.

Man, I don't doubt Cus at all. Yes, I know. I just like if this news cycle, if Howie is going to do that, it's going to be a very difficult post-draft press conference on night one. Yeah, I would agree. Do you see the player in just the player, Fran, a player who can be an elite edge rusher? Elite is a strong word. I don't know that I would say elite.

You know, my, my questions with the player are that it's honestly, it's like the Azaraku situation where you are a small, he's not small, but you are a more compact rusher. He has very short arms. He's not super explosive. You know, he tested at the pro day. He did the shuttles and the shuttles were excellent, but didn't run the 40. He didn't do a lot of the straight line stuff. And I think that was purposeful.

He's not a guy that's going to wow you with that explosiveness. I do think he's pretty good at the top of the rush. He's better than, you know, better than most, you know, in terms of winning with his hands. He's got a varied pass rush plan. I love the violence. I had the chiefs selecting him in my seven-round mock draft. And I thought, as I was writing it up, I said, you know, Andy Reid could see him and view him as Trent Cole. You know, a player, you know, a player.

You know, he obviously had success with here in Philadelphia. And I think that that would be, that's the style, right? He's a smaller player, you know, Cole, you know, he obviously felt at day three. you're spending a much different asset here in this situation. But I think that's the play style. That's the body type that you'd be getting there with Mike Green. Okay. That's a good one.

All right. My last pick, I want to just throw out a dart. And I have heard nothing to truly connect the egos to this player. But I haven't drafted a linebacker. And I thought about going Kobe King, who the Eagles brought in for a pre-draft visit. But instead, I'm going with the, I'm going with a different day three player, and this is not someone who could necessarily step in week one,

but you're talking about the Eagles, use their day three picks on guys with starting upside. And this is a young player who I think can grow, two and a half years of starting experience in three years at Florida, at six one and a half, 222. I'm going with Shamar James as my last pick. Fran, I'm trying to pull up your linebacker rankings here to see where you have him or if you've done him.

But I'm going to Shamar James. Keep scrolling. That bad? No, he's fine. Actually, I think that, yeah. You haven't done him. You haven't fully done him. Yes, I have.

Or did you? Yeah. Oh, then he's not. Reflects in the sheet in the sheet. Hold on. Hmm. Oh, yes. Linebacker 17 for you.

Yes. sandwich between Cody Simon and Justin Barron. But ahead of Kobe King. It's a good spot to be. Yeah, definitely ahead of Kobe King. I struggled with Cody King. That's fine. on Kobe King. Here's what you say

about Shamar James. Good athlete on tape, good command of gearing up and down, fluid hips with the ability to turn and run, burst to close, and when he sees it, he can shoot gaps. However, not a ton of pop on contact. If blockers are able to engage, the battle is typically lost.

I see a lot of red in the run game here, but no red in the past game. Yeah, he's really athletic. A lot of the red in the run game has to deal with him dealing with contact. He's a runaround blocks guy. And then also just mentally, like, doesn't always see it all that well. He's very fast flow, like, you know, Ernie Sims, Shark in the Water, you know, type of player.

I actually, one of the comparisons I wrote down was Dion Jones. You know, like if he hits, like if you're dreaming on him, that's what that's what he can become. And, you know, Dion Jones was a good linebacker for a while, but undersized fast flow. It doesn't really sound like a Vick guy, unfortunately. No. Well, in order to check out the last pick of this draft, you know, where we need to go? I already regret the Shamar James pick. Pulla Zach.

That's okay. So here you go here for my pick. Sometimes you don't go on the... What's that? I really wanted to go Gavin Bartholomew. That's who I wanted. Not Willie Lampkin. So sometimes here you don't go with Intel that you're here.

There's no pre-draft visit. It's just you watch. the player, you like the player, you know the way the Eagles play, and you say, this is someone they should be able to find a role for on the field. He's a personal favorite of mine, okay, not in the first round, because this isn't going to be James Pierce, although a team should, a team should take James Pierce, Jr., because he's a really good football player. But this is a guy who he could check the edge rusher box for me, but maybe, maybe, Vic Fangio watched the film and see the movement skills,

just like those five snaps he saw of Zach Bond and said, this guy can play off ball too. You talk about character, Jack. You talk about like playing style, toughness, you know, check. I am going with Josiah Stewart from the University of Michigan. If Josiah Stewart was bigger and longer, he'd be a first round pick just on the way he plays. but he's not bigger and longer.

So you're talking probably, you know, day two. Man, I don't know where he's going to play. But if you're a good defense coordinator, what your Fangio is, you want guys like Josiah Stewart on your football team. Fran? I thought you were going to go. Josiah Stewart moving to lineback.

I'm trying to think of what I would, what bet I would make that he would not take more than 10 linebacker snaps in the NFL, like off ball linebacker snaps. But that said, he's a fun player. And I do think that he is their kind of player. He's very violent. I do think that he would make some sense. Yeah, I would not rule that one out.

I could see that. When he first got to Coastal Carolina, he broke the school sack record there in his first year as a freshman, you know, jumped onto the scene that was there for a couple years and then left when that coaching staff left, went to Michigan, was a backup in 2023 when they went to the title and then stepped in as a starter this year. I do think that he fits the play personality. But yeah, he'd be a backup edge rusher.

Okay. Don't love the player. We're trying to go a little quicker on overtime today because Julia's going to do the flyer show. Zach's got a flight to catch. So I'm just going to very quickly read you every other one of my names in case the Eagles drop one of these players. I can take a little bit credit.

Jordan Phillips, T.J. Sanders, Gavin Bartholomew. Ahmed Hassanine, Cam Jackson, Kobe King, Dion Walker, Upton Stout, Ariante Ursary, Smile Mondin Jr., Josh Simmons, Chimray Dike, who will be a part of the mock draft that's on the PHAY Eagles feed. Michael Williams, soon none of us took as a potential trade-up option. Justin Wally, Shamar Turner, Raywan Lane, the 3rd, LeQuint Allen, Jalen Smith, Jalen Reed, Tileak Williams, Trey Amos, Tyler Barron, Marcus Boe, Jonas Savad, Nayaa, Dylan Fairchild, Maxwell, Harrison, Cameron Williams, and then Mike Green at the end, but you already took Mike Green.

Yeah, Marcus Boe was the guy I was going to go with there, but I thought I was over-indexed on the offensive line, and I wanted to get another edge rusher in there, so I went to his eye store. But Marcus Boe, especially if they think he could play center, is an intriguing one day, too. I had a handful of names. I didn't have 80 written down like Boe, but a few of the I had left. Tyler Booker, Gray, Zabel, T. T.

Shammar Turner, Xavier Watts, LeQuint Allen, Terrence, Ferguson, Dylan, Dylan, Dylan. Fair T.N. and Jalen Smith. Okay. And then wait here. Let me give you just some leftovers from my list real quick. No, that wouldn't be fair. That wouldn't be fair. Yeah, I actually think, I think you guys mentioned all that. But Reed and Boe were on my list.

Jalen Reed and Marcus Boe. And I went off the board, which was a high story. How excited would Reed be if they selected Jalen Reed? I'd have to get him that jersey right away. I mean, he would, he would want that. He would love that. And you get the same thing for Emily.

Yeah, he spells it differently, but yeah. All right, Fran, what does your last pre-draft weekend look like? So Meg's birthday is next Thursday, a draft night. So we are celebrating. Yeah, every year we basically deal with it. So we are going to celebrate this weekend. So we're going to dinner tonight. And then we're going to all three of us hang out all day tomorrow.

after tea ball in the morning. So it's good. Yeah, looking forward to it. That's pretty good. How about you, Zach? Yeah, so I changed my flight. I'm gonna come home tonight now. It is snowing outside.

There's no Rockies game. My flight was originally scheduled to get in tomorrow night. So now I get to see my kids tomorrow. Get to go to Reed's basketball game, and my wife as well. Get to see Reed's basketball game in the morning, so excited for that. But I have a manuscript too on Monday,

Um, so I got it's on a woman new script. You know what I mean? Um, so I have, uh, I've, um, 71,000 words into a 70,000 word manuscript. And, uh, I got to get that in. And then I have, um, a lot of draft stuff I need to put out there for, uh, all p. Y dot com. There's, we're going to have a lot of, um, articles to satisfy our die hearts next week. There you go.

We have a couple super chats to get to at the end. Cash Squaw. says how similar are Donovan Azaraku and Derek Barnett that's an interesting one um I thought Barnett had just more juice off the ball you know just good you could win with that first step and obviously he was he was locked into the snap count and would and would jump the snap really well I just thought that when I watched Donovan Azaraku like I just didn't see a guy that consistently just like fired off the ball that way but I would say that aserock was probably just a little more skilled as a rusher in terms of the variety of ways he can win both guys

kind of lacked power. And so I think that there's some similarities there and the frame is somewhat similar. So yeah, that's not bad. I kind of like that. I think Donovan's the better athlete, number one. And then number two, just from a frame perspective, Donovan has longer arms, right?

So even though he's shorter, the length stands out when you're watching play. How old is Azaraku? 22. 3. 21. Yeah, he'll be 22. Let's see.

Let's look this up here. Yep. It'll be 22 in September. Okay. So it's not this similar. And the last one from CDP, who says, can a player resurrect their stock Easter weekend?

That's a good one. A little late in the game, you know? I think it's Benjamin Morrison has a workout for teams on Monday. So it'll be a little late, but he's got that workout Monday. That'll be a big one for him.

I'll call me. I'll give a recommendation. I'll give you a couple options for guys who could do that this weekend. Hold on one sec. And we've got... Oh, these are going to be some good names here. Christian Grubb, Christian Horn, Gerald Christian Lichtenhan, and Christian Ice.

Pretty good. I like what you did. You can also watch Jesus Lazzardo pitch on Sunday. there go are we going to do the the my guys segment during the draft night or should we do that ahead of time last night last year we did it during draft night

I was passionate pounding the table for my Camel and Bullock and Michael Panix Jr. Yeah I think we should do that we can send Julia those so we can make some graphics for draft night I have actually another option for the resurrection Okay. This is a running back from southern Utah, Targi, Lamb's Son. It's pretty good.

Lamb's son. Yeah. There you go. Yeah, we'll do my guys. We'll do turkeys to the draft kingdom. We'll react to everything that's going on. Should be a lot of fun. All right.

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