PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - PERECT Eagles free agency: Why Jaelan Phillips UNLOCKS it all | PHLY Eagles Podcast

Episode Date: March 2, 2026

Jaelan Phillips is the Eagles’ big-ticket free agent, with Nakobe Dean, Reed Blankenship, Dallas Goedert & Braden Mann joining him, but Phillips is also the key to unlocking everything the Eagles do as Howie Roseman looks to have another banger of an offseason in his quest for another Super Bowl title. EJ Smith and Bo Wulf break down their perfect version of free agency for the Eagles. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello everybody. How's that voice sound into you? And welcome to the PHLI Eagles podcast live from the Xfinity studio. And presenting by Ashley Bowulf, E.J. Smith, we are here. And I have to hit Send on a tweet. How you doing it? I am doing very well. I'm disappointed to read the guy next to Fran on the airplane is a little too cozy.

Got the arm all over the armrest. Sorry to hear about that. But I'm doing well. We've got some good Eagles news to discuss. You know, it's really ramping up into free. agency week, which is an exciting time. A lot of news to display, a lot of news to get into. It is also one of like the more intense beat reporter times because, I mean, never does a

tweet notification matter as much in your life as it does during free. Tough life. It's a lot of like letdowns too. I'm sure Eagles fans can identify with this where it's like, you know, oh, like Ian Rappaport just put something out. Another team signed a player and it's just all day. But, you know, well, maybe we'll get into some. Well, that's a good reminder for us to tell you that we will be live next Monday.

as the tampering period opens for an extravaganza of sorts with me, E.J. and Fran live at noon as the window opens, and we're going to be live for at least three hours. You know what we could call that? Maybe more. I'm trying to make sure that this isn't inappropriate. A free agency extravaganza? What would you call that? Faye?

A fay. Like a fay. What? But I thought it was good. I don't know great about it. As long as you say it was good. Lindsay, you agree? I thought Lindsay liked it.

Yeah, she's giving us the little head bob. All right. So we do have some Eagles coaching news to discuss here. We'll get to that in a little bit. We know that nobody wants to hear about AJ Brown. We're going to keep that 62nd clock to all we can talk about for AJ Brown, but we do have one little thing to get off of our chest. But the main conceit of the show today, E.J., let's get to it in what's

brewing presented by our friends at Wawa. And that is just what is at hand for Howie Roseman over the next month or so. As you look towards the NFL draft, what do they need to do to essentially like draft-proof the roster? What do they need to do to make sure that they are in good hands and accomplish what they need to in free agency? And we think there are sort of five things that come to play here. And it does, it really does start with Jalen Phillips.

It hinges on what happens with Jalen Phillips. I agree. There are two divergent paths that you can really go down when mapping out the Eagles off season, the meat of the off season, free agency in the draft, what we are entering now. I think that Jalen Phillips is going to be the one that defines what happens from there on. Because of A, the fact that it would be a big contract, if you're bringing him back and B, what I'll get into in a second here, it leaves a big hole if he is to sign elsewhere because of what they have on the roster under contract at that position.

And I also think you can get a little bit cute playing the comp pick game. Yeah. And I think the Eagles have been guilty of that in the past. You know, it's not really worth protecting your, you know, fifth and six comp picks necessarily. Sure. At the expense of signing someone who you think might be a little bit better fit for you. However, if Jalen Phillips leaves the Eagles because they can't match a $27 million a deal, that's the kind of deal that is going to be a third round pick next year if you, you know,

don't sign canceling out free agents. And if that's the case, I think it probably is worth protection. if you can. And that means maybe it's, if Phillips signs elsewhere, it's more likely you fill your safety with paying a million dollars more than you would have liked

for re-blankenship over Dallas Goddard a tight end. And you maybe look to the Bradley Chubbs of the world who have been released and then they don't qualify for the comic pick game. And I think if you do resign Jalen Phillips, then all of a sudden you're free to sign whoever it is that you think

is best suited for the roster. Yep, yeah, I agree. I think Bradley Chub is the exact lever that you probably pull. if Jalen Phillips ends up signing elsewhere because he doesn't count against the compact formula and honestly like six months ago we talked about Jalen Phillips or Bradley Chub

as a difficult decision to make if you were going to trade for one of the Dolphins edge rushers. So, you know, I think that that one makes sense but that's not the path that I went down for this exercise. And I have a sweeping declaration, I maybe would say, in regard to what, in regard to this conversation

we're having. Okay. I'm trying to really build up the suspense here. A sweeping declaration. The Eagles should make, let me start it over because I really want to make sure I need this. A sweeping declaration, you say. The Eagles really only have one opportunity to make a splash in this offseason, in my opinion. At least when it comes to contracts, signing somebody.

It's a non-trade version. Yeah, I don't think we can talk about the draft. We can talk about trades. But if the Eagles are going to make a splash this off season, I think it is going to be a Jalen Phillips contract extension. I think, you know, the market is going to be really strong for Jalen Phillips. I think there's a chance that he will want to test that market and it might get to a place where the Eagles really aren't able. They're going to have a walkaway number and I think that there's a chance it gets to their walkaway number. But just thinking about the way that Hallie Roseman talked about, the offseason priorities that they have, sort of the roster building, you know, the structure that they have in terms of where they are at building this roster, they're going to have to make some tough decisions.

and I think honestly keeping Phillips is in line with a lot of those decisions and Hallie Roseman talked about it might be a hard off season to make splashy moves I think this is one of the few

that's available to them and for that reason I'm not saying you go crazy I'm not you know that $27 million a year number that we heard in Indianapolis that's probably not a number that you can make it to

if you're the Eagles but the number I settled on I got a contract extension proposal for you here okay four years $100 million $48 million guaranteed for Jalen Phillips to come back and really solidify the Eagles edge rush.

I think that's right at the line. Yeah. I think that's a good job finding like exactly what might be their walkaway number. Yeah. And I think if you're the Eagles, you try to get some off ramps in this contract. You try to, after maybe two years, the guarantees go down. You know, we've seen examples for that final year the deal really doesn't have any guaranteed money.

You know, it's one of those things where Jalen Phillips gets his win right up right out front. you know, $100 million deal. And then a few days later, it matriculates out, like, okay, that final year is a little bit. It's basically a three-year contract with 48 million guaranteed. I think that that is a splashy move. It's the type of move that we expect Howie Roseman to make at times, you know, because of the fact that it's an impact player at a premium position, the more I think about those quotes from Howie Roseman about, again,

like it's not really an offseason where we can make splashy moves. You know, it's going to be about being prudent about the roster that they've built and the amount of money that they're going to have to invest in some of these young players. I think adding Jalen Phillips or keeping Jalen Phillips as a part of that young nucleus,

I think it's going to be important for them. And I think if you can get this deal done, I think they should do it. If you spend all that money to resign Jalen Phillips, given the decisions that have to be made elsewhere on the roster, would you consider trading Nolan Smith? I would. I think honestly if you're signing Jalen Phillips to that contract you are probably not expecting to commit long term into Nolan Smith.

I think that's probably right. Just the math would bear out that it would be hard to have that many high-priced players at edge rusher with what you're going to be paying a defensive tackle presumably in this and that corner. And you have a heavy investment at linebacker with Zach Bonn as well. So I think it probably is an either-or type of situation. and that's part of why I just, why I've come to this conclusion. You know, I look, if you look, the only players at edge rush are under contract for next season for the Eagles right now

is Nolan Smith and Jailix Hunt. Yeah. And again, they have a decision that they're going to have to make soon here with Nolan Smith. So I think if you, if you would ask me like, who would you rather build it around?

I'd rather build it around Jalen Phillips and Jailix Hunt. Even Jailen Phillips at $25 million a year. And there's a chance that two or three years from now, we're talking about Jalen Phillips not being healthy or even more realistically, or I guess the health thing is very realistic. He's had a lot of injuries, well, a lot of significant injuries.

There's also a chance that his sack production is not incredible. You know, he's not somebody, we've talked about this before. I think he is like a Vic Fangio edge rusher because he's around the quarterback a lot, but he's not necessarily productive when it comes to sacks.

And I think that Vic values the former more than the latter. So for all these reasons, I really have kind of come to the conclusion. We've talked a lot about Jalen Phillips on this show and the market that he will command. I've come to the conclusion. I think this is the splashy move that they can kind of set the table with

and move on from there knowing that they have an impact player at a position that they value to kind of build around from there on forward. I also think if they can get it where the window is, it's really two years of significant money. That also fits with the timeline of when they need to free up money to pay the rest of the defense. All right. So it sounds like you agree with me.

All right. Let's close the book on what's brewing. presented by Wawa. And I see the great Deonté Lee is in the chat. He has a text out to us that we have not seen or responded to because he sent it right at the top of the show. And now he's here. And I'm going to tell him that the thing that he texted us about is something that we were

going to bring up on the show today. So stay tuned for that. A little synergy here. Love Dei. I mean. Yeah. That's better than a Deonti. I love his username in the chat, too, D5 Lee.

That's strong. It's very strong. It's good to have another head coach in here. Another. I don't know why I said another. We were talking about coaches. I mean, I got, I'm a head coach of a little league baseball team now.

Very exciting, my first time. That is exciting. Are you good at hitting like the ground balls, the like one-handed? I mean, that should be no problem for me. What about pop-ups? Should be no problem for me.

Oh, look at this guy over here. Okay. I mean, come on. Yes, unfortunately we have the draft the night of the first official day of free agency. So that will be fun. It's tough. That's very tough. That's okay.

All right. Let's talk about the five things we think the Eagles need to accomplish. Okay. In free agency. Now, I think we can say the first one is what we just talked about. They need some real body on the edge. Yeah. And that doesn't have to be Jalen Phillips coming in as the new 1A.

It could be somebody who slots behind Jalick's Hunt and Nolan Smith. But I think it would be nice for them to have somebody in order to draft-proof the edge group so that they have more than two definite players on the edge. I think Bradley Chubb is your answer there. I feel like in a non-Jailin-Philip's world. Yes, in a world where Jalen Phillips signs for $27 million over four years with, I don't even have a team in mind, but I'm sure there are teams who would pay them it. So.

Okay. And that one we've already talked about. Yeah. The second one, and I think this is probably the most pressing, even though it may not be the thing that they spend the most money on, is, I mean, boy, do they need a starting caliber tight end. And that could be resigning Dallas Goddard. I think we all expect equals to address this position in the draft,

but they cannot go into the draft with, you know, only E.J. Jenkins or Kylan Granson as the tight ends on the roster, right? Talk about me for a second there. So, you know, there is an interesting group of tight ends. And I've been thinking about this in the, you know, how he said the thing about how this requires a, uh, a change from me. And I think that's true, but I also think it's maybe overstating it a little bit. I mean, I agree. Yeah.

They're not going to spend their $8 million for a tight end or 15, whatever it is, on a guy who is just a blocker. Yes. This is not going to be, uh, okay, our big move in for agency is signing Charlie Kohler. Yeah. Okay. Whoever they sign has to be a real part of the passing game. And maybe they,

maybe that maybe then you sign another person who can, can be the designated blocker. They've got to have some blocking chops, some blocking willingness. Yeah. But I think it's probably overstating it to be like, this is the thing we care about the most of that position. Yeah.

Can I add one quick thing. I know you're going through your rundown here. On that point, listening back to the quote a few times, Howie is talking about the variety, the, you know, the diversity of skill set in the room. more so than just

we need blocking tight ends. Like, you know, I think you have it perfect there. I think your number one can still be a combo guy or a receiving first type of tight end. I think the absence of like your Jack Stoll, your Kam Latu if they had used him as much as they should have, having that example, I think that that's what they needed more in that room.

That's how it was alluded to. Right. Instead of filling out the roster with, who was who was, Who was the guy who ended up going to the commanders who was a former the Buffalo quarterback, Tyree Johnson. Tyree Jackson. Tyree Jackson, yes. Yeah, you know, you've got Tyree Jackson, and you've got a bunch of guys who are, you know, theoretical wide receiver guys, but there's no one who can actually do the dirty. I mean, even E.J. Jenkins is a former receiver.

Right, exactly. So, okay. So that's number two. Now, obviously a lot of these things are pinned to the free agents that they have pending. So up next is safety. You're going to need a safety. And obviously, it could be. read Blankenship. This is actually the one position where as you look at free agency,

where there is some depth and some starting caliber talent. And I know that the Eagles don't feel great about like this crop of free agents in general. And it's part of that is because like some of the things that are good at the top are not positions they need. But actually I think, I think safety is the one where there is some real depth. So that young and older guys with all kinds of starting experience, varied skill sets. So I'm actually, this is one where I'm very curious to see, I imagine that Vic has a real strong say here. I'm really curious to see what it is that he wants. Does that change your analysis of like the cost to get a veteran safety isn't going to be

that much different than the cost to retain read blankenship? Because there's such a big, there's a wide range of players that kind of fit that bill. I think that's probably right. Okay. Yeah, I think this is one where they could really wait it out and see, okay, the second week of free agency, there's still three guys left, who do we like of this? Or it could be, hey, Reid, listen, like, there's a lot of guys out there.

You might not be getting what you think. Yeah. This is our deal. Take it or leave it. Yeah, whenever I talk to people about Reed, there's like the kind of push-pull. Like, you know, they'd love to have him back. They are curious to see if he drives an aggressive market and free agents.

Yeah. You know? What do you think their line is? It's probably around. I don't want to guess is the only thing. Yeah. But when you ask me the question, the number that comes in my head is 10 million. I think that's right.

Yeah. It feels, and that's without looking at the chart to see where the value lies. And I guess my gut reaction there was 10 million. Okay. Next up. And this is the other spot in the secondary. Might be more than 10. Sorry.

They've got to find this year as Adory Jackson. And that could even be a Dori Jackson. And it could be, as the great Deonté Lee texted us at the start of the show, could be Marshaun Lattimore. Yeah. Who was going to be released by the commanders. And I think that one actually does make quite a bit of sense. Now, we need Deonté to chime into the chat here to tell us what he thinks. Because, you know, I mean, he is the resident ball knower among us.

I think that's the perfect level for them. First of all, it checks the kink of a former first round pick. The Eagles love that. That's going to make for a good afternoon for somebody. And yeah, has displayed a high level of play. Yeah. And you can, and if somebody beats him out in training camp, all the better. And if not, you can, you can, you know, he has to stay healthy, but you can rely on he's going to be, he's going to know where he needs to be.

Something about Marshawn Latimore's play personality would make me think he'd be a good fit for Vic Fangio. Yeah. And also, for some reason, just because of like the team. teams he's played on, and the fact that he was on the commanders last year and they struggled, would make me think he'd be part, like, be willing to play, willing to, like, sign a deal with the Eagles that maybe isn't the top of his market value because it's a chance to compete for a Super Bowl. You know what I mean? Like, maybe I'm attributing too much to, like, the way that Marshawn Latimore plays, but I am a little

bit, like, I feel like he would like to play for the Eagles because of the fact that it's a contender, you know? He's just played, like, for good teams, so. The thing about Adora that I feel like it's been an interesting arc of the season, right? Where early on, everybody wanted him benched. Yeah. And he was a real problem. And then by the end of the season, it became like he was holding his own.

He also missed some time. Right. Not a missed three games, right? And I think they would like, you know, ideally to have somebody who can actually stay on the field. Sure. Yeah. I mean, I think you, I think bringing Adori back as your number four corner. would be ideal.

Or you're number three, I guess, in this scenario. No, sorry, you're number four. You're number three outside corner. I think if he's the backup, you feel good about that. But yeah, I think it's a daunting task, or it's a daunting reality to go into next season thinking that he's going to play significant snaps for you. So those are the four things that they need to get done

before the draft. Yeah. And then the one other one, which is more just be opportunistic about, is somebody on offense who can help draft-proof you a little bit. And this could be a sixth offensive lineman caliber guy. You want to have a, you know, somebody who can definitely step in for Lane Johnson if he missed this time. We know that they are high on Cameron Williams and Drew Kendall, as, as you reported this week, and everybody can

read that on all p.h.oI.com. But I don't think that they're necessarily ready to hand over the third tackle to Cameron Williams. So there are some, you know, veteran guys available here where the Eagles could look into this. This could also be. be a different wide receiver as Johan Dotson leaves. Yep. You know, is there somebody maybe who gets released that's, you know, is it like a Diami Brown type that you want to add to this, to this mix? Just somebody here to help make it so that in the draft, you don't have to draft a specific spot. Yeah, and we've seen the Eagles do this, you know, year after year where they, they will address a position of need in free agency. I always call it like raising the floor. You know,

if you do strike out at the position, you've got Matt Hennessy. as an example of as a player that you just, maybe you probably don't want to have to rely on them, but if you, it gives you the flexibility to draft for value in the draft instead of feeling like you have to fill holes. There you go. All right.

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It is unclear what his role is going to be. He was most recently the, and this is, sorry, I should say, this is according to Mike Garifolo. He was most recently the Houston Texans quarterback's coach. He is interviewed for the Eagles offensive coordinator job three times. Yes. Since 2023, he interviewed for the 2023 opening again in 2024 and again in 2026, if you probably, I guess a month ago.

He is someone that's interesting because. And a second interview. Yes. He was part of the seven finalists for her. That's right. Seven, you can call him finalists, right? If you got to get through to a second interview. Sure.

I guess so. Every time I've applied for your job, if I was in that second interview, I'm a finalist now, baby. How many jobs you've been applying to? I mean, you want me to, not, I haven't applied for, I haven't applied for a job recently, but you know, every time I apply for a job, I think my hit rate's 100%. Applying to getting the job? Yeah. I don't.

Okay, go ahead. Yeah, so he's an interesting one because he has experience working in a Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVeigh Influence system. He literally worked for the 49ers as a fellow in 2017. And has, what? It's funny. What's funny about that? Oh, it was a fellow.

Okay. And he also has experience working with Nick Siriani. He crossed past with Nick in Indianapolis. He was on as a lad. As a lad, yes, as a wee lad. So it's interesting because Nick talked about Parks Frazier being able to play translator as they move from the previous iterations of the Eagles offense to a more, an offense more built in the image of Kyle Shanhan,

Sean McVeigh, Matt LaFleur, type systems. And I think that Gerard Johnson is also going to be able to do that. He's been in Houston for a while. I don't know if that means he's got connections with Jalen Hertz. But again, he's somebody that's been on the Eagles radar for a really long time at this point. It's interesting on a few fronts.

And I think Brooks Cabena of the Athletic Academy. This was a true mutual thing where he wanted out as well. And the Texans want to move on. I mean, listen, not great that the Texans wanted to move on. And there are two ways you can read this thing for the Eagles where between Gerard Johnson and Josh Grisard, oh, on the one hand, hey, good, great job by the Eagles. Not only did they hire the guy they wanted,

they got three of the guys who were their finalists in the building. Yeah. That's one. On the other hand, it's yikes. I mean, three of the finalists for the Eagles job, two of them didn't have any other opportunities that they had to join the legal staff anyway. Yeah, but we knew that, right?

We knew that they had to cast a wide net for a multitude of reasons. My biggest takeaway is something I also wrote about and go ahead. No, no, go ahead. My biggest takeaway was something I also wrote about on all p.hioi.com as a part of me emptying the notebook from the scouting combine

and we're going to have to, I'm going to tread carefully here and I want everyone to listen to the entire thought before having an opinion on what I am saying. there was a certain level of skepticism on how Jalen Hertz and his playing style fit into a Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVeigh system. I wouldn't say there was a, it's, I don't, I wouldn't say it was critical necessarily. I don't think every quarterback fits into those systems.

If you think about some of the quarterbacks that have excelled in those systems, they are quarterbacks that are like much maligned for being system quarterbacks, right? It's Jared Goff. It's, you know, Brock Purdy. I think Matthew Stafford is like the idealized version. of what you want for those systems, but those systems place a big level of importance on precise footwork, you know, precise drops,

and timing throws, which is not, has not been something Jalen Hertz has majored in. And I think that the Eagles are going to have to figure out how to bridge that gap because Jalen Hertz is a dynamic player. You know, like, and the way I would couch this and make sure, you know, before you say, like, well, how can't, how could you say Jalen couldn't fit into that system?

Like, there are lots of great quarterbacks who wouldn't fit into that system. like Josh Allen wouldn't fit in that system. I don't think Lamar Jackson would fit in that system. Honestly, Patrick Mahomes fits in every system, but like you wouldn't want him to major in like timing. Josh Allen would be just fine in that system. I'm not so sure. I mean, the footwork, like Josh Allen's footwork is not like perfect.

But you get what I'm saying is like in certain ways that system can be, I wouldn't say restrictive, but like. Well, yeah, but the point then is if the system is not going to be good for Josh Allen, then the system sucks. Right. But some people would say the same thing about Jalen Hertz. Yeah. So that's what I'm getting at. And to me, that's where they're going to have to bridge the gap.

And my biggest takeaway, this is how I'm going to tie it all the way back together. We're going to bring it back to Gerard Johnson. The Eagles have done a really good job of setting up succession planning for their offensive coordinator position by bringing Gerard Johnson and Josh Grzard into the building. Like they have a staff now where they should be able to promote from within. I'm putting the carpet before the horse. But if Jalen Hertz can find a home in this system, if this is now his home base, they have set it up where it can be his home base.

So again, there was some skepticism, a little bit of like, wait and see how it's going to look, how they can incorporate some of the things that Jalen does well into the system. But I think there is a real opportunity. I think bringing in Gerard Johnson adds to the possibility that if it works, there's sustainability there. Well, I also think from a league whispers about, you know, part of the reason that people weren't interested in this job. is because maybe they were wary of working with Jalen Hertz. Sure. Clearly, Gerard Johnson, who has now interviewed for this job three times,

is a vision for what it was like. Is someone who very much wants to work with Jalen Hertz. Yep. And so bringing him in the building is probably helpful. Yeah. I also do remember Gerard Johnson as a training camp quarterback back in 2011, have like a up at Lehigh. I have a vision of it like a kind of like a three-quarter.

Oh, really? Arm slot for his throat. But I wanted to go look it up. And we have it on the graphic there The day that he was released in training camp I did not remember that he was Release in order for the Eagles to make way Room on the roster for the great

Joe Toledo Joe Toledo one of my favorite names In over a decade I was gonna say should I be embarrassed I don't know Joe Toledo Joe Toledo just what a perfect name for someone who is clearly in witness protection

I didn't know about Joe Toledo until a few seconds ago. It doesn't look like he played a game. I don't believe he did. I don't mean he only made it about four days on the roster. All right. So I feel better about my ignorance here. But yeah, I think that this was a, I mean, it's like tough to say like, this is great hire.

Yeah, I would say it's a good hire. To add another talented coach. Yeah. For sure. I think this like has slightly increased like the upside. with the coaching staff this year. How many people are going to have on these offensive staff? A lot.

And you know what? I should point that out. I can't remember who it was. I apologize, but someone replied to my tweet, acknowledging the hire, or talking about the hire, and said,

remember that year in 2020, when they formed a staff with a bunch of different guys from a bunch of different systems and it blew up in their faces because there were too many cooks in the kitchen, there is every chance that this staff will have that happen to them. But I think that they all,

do have at least, they all trace their scheme influences back to the same spot. So I think that it's, there's reason for optimism, but listen, like, you know, the, the history of bringing a bunch of different guys from different staffs in, it's not always successful. Yeah. That's why I, that's why I bristle a little bit at they're setting up a succession plan for if Mannion leaves because their track record of identifying the right person from within is, is not great.

But I think it's, you want to have a staff that's good enough for you. you should still be looking outside. Well, it's almost like their track record of bringing people or bringing people along internally isn't great. So hire a bunch of external guys right now so that you have like, I don't know, you know what I mean? It's like they've sort of done the vetting process. They needed to restock the staff. Yeah, yeah.

I don't know. I think it makes sense because of the, again, the upside of having the home base for Jaylin. If they figure this out, they already have some ready made replacements in in-house that you have done the work on a year or a year or two years early. All right. Time to take another break. On the other side, we will very briefly talk about A.J. Brown. And then we will get to the free agent plans that E.J. and I have.

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Loving that. Thank you. You know, I do, like, I appreciate the chat for noticing when I wear something new, but listen guys speaking of scale we were just talking about scale with the ad read i have to scale my wardrobe being on camera every day i can't re-wear outfits as much so uh i'm a little bit like psyched out i couldn't incorporate this more like uh subtly you know like oh i see what you mean yeah it's like i was just kind of hoping to just kind of dabble this one in and like nobody would notice but i appreciate the love um it's a crop sweater so it's a better it's good for this this set i see if i was walking around all day, you'd probably nice and soft. It is. It's very cozy.

Yeah, it's a good sweater. Nice work. I'm now I'm going to flip it on you because the other thing the chat's been noticing is your voice. I know like it's not great that you are a little under the weather. I'm fine. I love the way your voice sounds. Oh, you like that? Oh my God, yeah, a little husky. Yeah, I, it's funny. How does that feel,

baby? Because now I am 31 and my voice doesn't change as much as I expected it to. Still waiting on those pubs. Like I know what my dad's voice sounds like And I figured at some point my voice would sound that way And yeah, no, you've, yeah, I like it. You sound very like radio hosty with this voice.

Yeah. So keep it as long as you can. First and ten for the eagle. Wide receivers split left. Sequin Barkley in the backfield. It's good. Touchdown! Does it hurt to talk right now for you?

No. Okay. But that's good. Over the weekend, the throat was sore. I'm, that's not sore anymore. But, uh, I was also sneezing. And I had to, I had to like develop a whole new way to sneeze. Because were you, uh, so that, so that it wouldn't land on the throat.

It was like, it was like opening my cheeks wide. It was like, Lindsay, if I had said any of these things and the whole show would have been off the rails. I was like that sneezing instead of having, instead of having this sneeze. I mean, everything else I was finding that opening my cheeks wide, but if I had said that, we would have, I would have never left the studio. I would have been ridiculed into. You know what? It's cool. It's fun to, you know, almost 40 years in, just develop new things.

Yeah. Like a whole new brand. I might try to trademark this new invention. Sometimes I sneeze so much when I'm sick that my ribs will get like sore. Has it ever happened to you before? No, is I got a back hurt on a sneeze every now and then? Yeah, no, like my ribs will feel like I've like almost got like bruised ribs or something. All right.

Crazy. Let's talk about AJ Brown. Now, I know that nobody wants to hear about AJ Brown. We're done. We've talked enough about AJ Brown. So that's why we have, as we said last week, we are instituting a 60 second shot clock here, briefly open. This is so good. 60 seconds.

Shout out, Lindsay. on AJ Brown. I have one thing to get off my chest. Let's start the clock. Okay. Here's what I want everybody to think about. It is still possible that AJ Brown gets traded. No doubt about it. But if we accept that AJ Brown has told the Eagles he wants to be traded,

and the Eagles would still rather keep him, but are honoring that request to some degree, what they would need to do is put out the word that they are opening, the door to listening about AJ Brown. And then they can have a crazy ask, like, with the reported like first plus. And then if nobody meets that price, they can go to AJ Brown and say, listen, we tried to trade you. You saw the reports. Nobody values you as much as we do. And I think that is very possible that that is what is happening here. And then if somebody meets their price, this is what they had for him. So I know that it's like, oh, AJ's not going to get

traded. They're never going to trade him. Well, Maybe they're trying just to show him that they're trying, and then they can bring him back. Well done. And now, for those of you who muted or decided to, you know, do whatever you were doing for a minute, you can come back. We're not going to talk about AJ Brown anymore in this show. But good job. Oh, there you go. You're a pro's pro.

I appreciate the friend who made that similar point to me. Anyway. Oh. Moving on. Let's do your free agency. you are you are taking the resign jalen phillips path here so what else how are you filling those other four slots yeah i only really put a ton of time into one of them okay that's fine because i really don't have exact answers okay yeah i's gonna say i don't have that's what quacketology's for you got to tune in

later in the week what i'm laughing at franz comment oh okay that's what to say um i have one thing that i need to get off my chest that does hit on one of the things you talked about. Okay. So I did something last night. It's the first time this offseason I've done one. And it's surprising because usually I will do this. Usually I will do this earlier in the off season.

I did my first mock draft. Okay. It'll be coming up on the website later this week. So keep an eye out for it. And I used the PFF mock draft simulator. I checked with Fran to make sure that that was just the mock draft. draft simulator. I checked with Fran to make sure it was kosher to use a mock draft simulator. And the first one that I did, the PFF mock draft, the reason I mentioned the PFF mock draft

is because... Could you mention it another time just to make sure that they really get the money that they paid you for? I mean, yeah, you're right, fair. The reason I use it, what off? The reason, the thing that happened because I used it was Kenyon Sadeek was available every single time. You do it. Not going to happen, yeah. Right. Unrealistic. And I do believe that if Kenyon-Sadik is there for the Eagles, at number 23, they should run the card in because he is a difference-making player at a position they have a need at. Doing that, though, it's a lot harder to find the heir apparent to Lane Johnson in the second round of the draft. It is almost, I mean, I'm sure that it's not impossible. But the 23 is a really good spot if you want to find a tackle. There are, you know, there are a handful of guys. that you'd expect to be there. I mean, Kaden Proctor was available in the one I did.

Maxi Hana Chor is available. Monroe Freeling, all of these guys would make a lot of sense for the Eagles at 23 if they're there. But again, if Kenyan Tadik is there, you probably go with Kenyan Tadik at that spot. But in the second round, in day two,

it's a lot harder to fill those spots. So I'm not saying you don't draft Kenyan Tadirik. It's just, it's something to keep in mind, is that it probably makes it a little bit harder to hit on some of the things you need to hit on. Yeah. Well, of course.

This is the same thing we talked about last week on the perfect draft. If you want, if you, if you want a tackle, you got to get him in the first round. So what do you? You are not going to get a starting caliber tackle, a guy who's going to be Lane Johnson's replacement. Right. In the second or third round. It is extremely unlikely. So what do you, how would you handle that then?

If Keny and Sanique is there, you're saying, we're drafting and we're figuring out tackle next year. Yeah. Okay. I mean, you can try it. You can hope. You can, you can draft a tackle in the middle rounds and you hope that they'd deviant. develop and go from there. But that's, if, if Kenyon and Sadiq

is that much higher on your board, then yes. Or you explore a trade down and you move, you move, you get something for, to make it worthwhile to pass up the guy who's sticking out like a sort of thumb. Yeah,

maybe it's draft Sadiq move up to get one of the tackles in that cluster if they slide. Right. But it does make it a little bit more complicated. That, that gave me just like a little bit of pause. What I would say is,

here's how I'd say. It should, It shouldn't give me pause if Kenyon-Sadik is there at 23, but it does. It gives me a little bit of like, like, just like finding a viable tackle prospect that you can plug in for year one at guard or even if that's not how you feel about it. It's such an important position. It's a position that there are a few years laid on, in my opinion. I feel like, yeah, it gives me, it does. It gives me some hesitation.

And it shouldn't. I know it shouldn't. I don't think, I mean, I think it's understandable. But yeah, I mean, if your number one goal is to come out of the draft with Elaine Johnson replacement, then it has to come in the first round. I think that that might be my number one goal, especially because the work I did here is like going through some of the free agent solutions. I'm not going to say Chico Conquo because I've said him enough. You've got to diversify those bets.

What did you, what have you seen? It was Sports Illustrated that reported that a Zach Ertz reunion could make sense for the Eagles. How do you feel about that? who at Sports Illustrated you caught me on the spot I can kind of see that I think I could too I mean

that is kind of draft it's not draft proofing because you'll still need to do you think they have to fire Siriani no that is funny though it's a funny that's a funny that's still one of the best thing that's happened over the past couple of years is seriana getting into a fight with zackertz after the games they're just like what the hell

i mean i think it would make sense i think you sign zackertz i mean it's funny from a listen i got to rethink what i feel about the tight end position and then you just sign zackertz but you can sign zackertz and then you can go into the draft again fran has told us the draft is better for tight end twos tight end threes dirty work guys behind a number one yeah i think it would make sense. It's probably not like your plan A, but if Chigoconkwo gets signed for a bigger deal than you wanted, I think it would make some sense. There are some, there are some semi interesting tight ends in free agency. Yeah. K.aten, probably going to get paid more than the Eagles would like to pay. Travis Kelsey, not going to happen. Your boy, Chigoccoe. Adam Troutman from the Broncos,

just like a little older than you'd like. Yeah. I don't know. Daniel Bellinger. You're going to pay Daniel Bellinger. Now, Isaiah likely is an interesting one. Yes. And I could see the egos being interested. That is also what we're talking about, though. Like, you can't be like, well, you can, but it would be ironic to be like, oh, we have to rethink the tight end position. And then you sign Isaiah likely.

And I also think he's going to get paid real money. Yeah. Trading for Michael Mayer. Something like that is like more important. So trade makes sense for sure, especially in a Jill and Phillips signs elsewhere. You want to protect the compics world. Sure. Yeah.

Yeah, I think that one makes sense. that was the one I did the work on. I mean, the other ones, again, we got time for Quagantology. Like, yeah. I mean, he's fun, but, like, he's huge. Yeah. It's really all I'm getting out there. Okay.

Time to take our last break. Coming back with more. I bet you Fran is listening to the show. He just went, Dave and Joku was fun, E.J. Like, what does that even mean? I think he's a fun player. Because he practices with his abs out? No, that's not what I'm talking about.

He's just like, If, well, if you think about the types of players I like, Dave and Joku is the type of player I like, just like give me the superhumans. Hmm. Every time. Okay. You don't get a lot of guys whose name ends in a U.

Lot too. Yeah, you do. Lomu. Okay, so you name two so far. I mean, but like instantly. Yeah, low-foot-to-tupu. And I'm like, I'm the one who's bad at naming players off the top of my head.

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but wolf e j smith how you doing i'm doing well still doing well doesn't say you're doing so well over the weekend when you've ghosted lindsay what a transition what a transition you really sent me up there um so yeah lindsay sent me some funny memes that we had talked about on Friday. She sent them to me, what was it, Saturday night? I don't know. I think it was Saturday night. But the pretext here is that he told you when you, when you see it, make sure you send

it to me. Yeah. I wanted to see him. I mean, I feel as if anything I send, even if it wasn't talked about, warrants a response, but it does. Top of the list. Yeah. All right.

But my wife just got home from work. And we were starting what I referred to. as the Libathon, which was love is blind, L-I-B, not getting political here. What? Go ahead. I'll tell you what I'm thinking. So we were watching, we're going to really, as Fran would say, we're going to buzz through some love is blind, really enjoying this season.

It's very, very dramatic, and there's one couple that I actually love. So that's a good balance. And we had literally just started it. when Lindsay sent me the memes, and I tried to watch one of them, and I get the evil eye. Like, we just turned this off. We're supposed to be watching for like three hours. He's hitting me and Julia against each other. Do you believe this?

What? I already have his wife's number. I'm going to get Julie's number. I'm going to be friends with her. You cannot stop throwing her under the bus. No, here's the thing. Some personal accountability for wounds in your life. You guys are assuming that I'm saying that this is her fall.

You guys are assuming that she did something wrong. She was right. She was holding me accountable to the fact that I said, like, let's watch a bunch of love is blind and then five minutes in. I'm on my phone. That's not her fault at all. Again, really, it was like, the reason I do it is because you guys know I'm a people pleaser.

So I see the text and I'm like, I have to answer this text. But really, I had to be accountable to the Libathon. I had to. So, um, Libathon is you just watching Lindsay sending you that Kamala Harris means. We did it, Joe. We did it, Joe. That is what that would be. Um, I mean, you're trying to explain yourself and the first words out of your mouth were my wife just got home.

The old ball and chain. No, do not. Please. You guys can mess with me a lot of different ways. Don't make me the ball and chain guy. That is, couldn't be further from the truth. Um, so we watched a few episodes. and I forgot to watch the I forgot to watch the stuff Lindsay sent me the best part of the story

is the next night Lindsay texts me ha ha yeah and I thought she like meant to text someone else no I like no she was like hey you said you were going to look you said you wanted these yeah you asked for this yeah and I have read receipts so she knew I saw him messed up so let's get to today's power rankings Oh, not today. Listen, got to be accountable. And throw your wife under the bus. No, I, I, again, it was, she was right.

I said I wanted to watch the show. We needed to focus on the show. It's an important show. Oh, yeah, I think it's more important than that. Well, really, what does the show represent? It represents time with your wife, time with your family. I just have to call out this person. They're so right.

Big Brother is so much better than love is blind. Yeah, every time I try and say to Lindsay, I want her to watch Love is Blind. She always says I only watch Big Brother. EJ is, I mean, Fran is a big brother guy. We talk about it for years we've talked about. I'm a Survivor guy. I like Love is Blind. Just like the perfect amount of like stupid mess that I enjoy it.

Also, Vic and Christine, if you're listening to this, I would like to be friends with them. I think we would really enjoy hanging out. The rest of them I don't want to hang out with. Come on. What? That couple's not going to be together. Oh, yeah, they will. They will totally.

Oh, they're getting married. I'll, I'll bet you $10. Deal. As my dad would say, I'll bet you $5 to a dime. They're going to get married, and I want to hang out with them. But Alex and Ashley, ugh, ugh, awful. And the ones who watch, they'll know. They know where I'm coming from.

Okay. All right. Anything else on your ideal free agency for the Eagles? Do you have a corner in my mom? mind? Marshawn Latimore is an interesting one. Do you any interest in Trayvon Diggs?

I think the Eagles, I could see the Eagles wanting to do that. Yeah. Yeah. Trying to like the reclamation project. Bad success with the former Cowboys for them, but I could see them. Douglas was somebody I pointed out earlier. I love a Rasul Douglas. Yeah. I don't know. I mean

he's going to be 31 next year. I think it's going to be 32. Let's see. It's like you're using the wrong place, my man. Who are you using? over the cap? No, it'll be 31. I was right. When's his birthday?

August 29th, 1995. That's when he turns 31 or turns 32? He turns 31. Oh, okay. Do you not know how math works? Do you not know how age works? Well, I don't know. I'm asking.

Born three days after me. Well, three days in a year. A year younger than me. Have ever told you my soul story? Maybe. Go ahead. I don't know if I should say it on air, but now I've walked myself into this.

Let me, I'll just say that my first year on the beat, he tested my ability to decipher true and false information. He messed with you. Yeah, he was messing with me. Yeah. He wanted to see if he could get me to report something that wasn't true. And did you report it? I did not. Okay.

That's good. So did you then tell him that you passed the test? No, I didn't. I don't know if I talked to him very much after that. Okay. So this was a contentious relationship. No, it was a, I was a young beat reporter

and didn't really know what to make of it situation. Okay. Sorry, it's not as juicy as story as I probably... What do you have a tight end? I told you.

I mean, Chig is always going to be... But I thought Zackertz would be fun. Okay. Who did you like at safety? I need to... That's what I'm spending my next like 48 hours,

yeah, is really getting, Kevin Byard? Strong opinions. Does Kevin Byrd move the needle? No, first blush, I have much more interest in Jaquan Bristker. Yeah, Kevin Byrd, it just went so poorly when he was here. It's funny because he's obviously done very well in Chicago, and he's been a good player

throughout his career. The thing that was funny about Kevin Byard when he was with the Eagles is like, he kind of walked in and was immediately, he like immediately considered himself like a leader on the team. And it kind of took everyone else time to realize, like, that he thought that. Yeah. You know? And I don't, to no fault. of his own or anybody's.

It was a weird year, the year he was a year, obviously. Yeah, he just was like, yeah, he was, he really struggled that year. They all did. It's probably not fair to evaluate him off of how that season went because that defense was just such a mess. But to the point, this is a deep group at safety. Jaquan Brisker, Kevin Byard, Cam Curl, who you would think maybe there's some scheme overlap there, the way he played with the Rams, Ronnie Hickman, Nick Scott, Nick Cross, who

a young guy coming off his rookie deal. Aloha Gilman, Gino Stone who got paid a little bit. Reed. Jalen Thompson from the Cardinals. There's some scheme overlap there. Could be interesting. Brian Cook from the Chiefs. Jalen Hawkins from the Patriots.

They have that new guy from the secondary who will have some insight there. Kobe Bryant from the Seahawks. C.J. G. if you're nasty. Dane Belton. Every time the Eagles have signed C.J. Gardner Johnson, they've gone to the... Super Bowl.

That's right. Acquired, I should say. So even Darnal Savage, I mean, there's a bunch of names. It's a tricky market, though. Like, you could get that really wrong. For sure. Yeah. Like, there's a lot of volatility in that list.

Yeah, and it's also, I mean, it is in the same reason it's a very difficult position in the draft to evaluate. It's a very difficult position to project team to team in for agency. I mean, you all remember when you'll sign Malcolm Jenkins, you know, it was, it was I forget who the other two were. Oh, oh man. He's like the third guy. I played for the bills.

And the other two were just disasters. Was he class me, Bird? Yes, Jera's Bird. Jerry is Bird. Yeah, who gets paid a ton of money. Man, that was steep up. I mean, I'm surprised I could get that. That was a good one.

And then the other guy, the other guy was more of a downhill guy, like a hard hitting guy. Yeah, I don't remember the other guy. I do remember. Sort of settled for Malcolm Jenkins, and he turns out to be by far the best of the group. So, and the Eagles have had misses at safety.

in the past. Although, to be fair, to Howie, I think he has actually done a very good job at safety and free agency. Rodney McLeod as well. Yeah. Marcus Epps. Marcus Epps. Well, that's, I mean, wasn't really open for agency. They signed him off a practice squad. Yeah. And then... I'm just saying, like, evaluating, like, players who are available. T.J. Ward. Thank you, Fran. Oh, yeah. Shout out Fran watching on the plane. I'm very glad Fran got on the plane. I know he was worried about it. Get on. plane I hope that his plane doesn't turn around like mine did I don't know what that reference was oh that reminds me we have you don't know what that reference was

no do you see the comment on the show from Friday no I didn't oh this is a great kind oh the pilot yes yeah I liked that he said no comment if he would have kept flying really yeah here's a here I'm gonna read it that was really this is a comment from we can crown as the official pilot shout out of P-H-O-I shout out to Jim K for his comment. Official pilot of Birds with Friends here, not sure am I standing with PHOI? Yes, you have been anointed

the official pilot of PHOI. Pressurizing the airplane on the ground works the same as in the air. Close all doors and outflow valves on the plane and pump air into via bleed air from a compressed air source. Yeah, we all know what an outflow valve is. The auxiliary power unit or in a pinch one of the engines. Pretty normal to check if all seals are sealing,

latches are latching, sensors are sensing, but it's uncomfortable on the ears for those on the plane. Yeah, I could see that. I got sensitive ears. No comment on whether I would have continued to Philly or turned around. Which means he would have continued to Philly. That's interesting. I told you that the co-pilot said that he would have been the one.

No, we're not there yet. He said if it were me, I would have kept flying. I would have kept going. Now, I didn't like that from the co-pilot. I wasn't a fan of that. I wasn't either, but now I'm hearing it wasn't that big of a deal. That's like the sense I'm getting. I mean, I don't know.

I'm not a nervous flyer, but I don't like the fact that the latches aren't latching. Need that. I agree with you. Yeah. Don't be flying that janky playing with me on it. Depends on how far along you are, I guess, too. Yeah. Yeah, if we got further along, he probably would have been like, yeah, who cares.

The closer, this is like the joke of the, you know, the dumb guy who was supposed to swim from one gallon to another. and he got about three quarters of the way there and he decided he was too tired so he turned back. Yes. There's also that like a terrible meme that won't go away. That I'll tell you about in... E.J. Tad.

We jumped it a little bit early. Yeah, we did. It's my fault. I said you up. I was supposed to be precise to the second on this one. Wait, actually? I believe so. Two second window. Oh, that's tough. The meme where the guy

is like trying to like dig for gold and he turns around people will know what i'm talking about we don't need to spend time on it what you talk about it's like a meme it's not really a meme but it's a picture it they people usually use it for like i probably shouldn't say they use it for like um you know you just have to keep trying because you never know when you're going to get to the the gold when you're digging for gold or like diamonds you shouldn't give up Does anyone have any idea what he's talking about? Somebody will know. Somebody will know what I'm talking about.

I don't want to say too much more about it to not get myself. I'm not trying to get myself in trouble here. I don't know what you're talking about. It's like a meme and the guy is like, is there something unto word about it? No, there's nothing unto word about the meme. It's just what it's used for a lot. Is it from that Cohen Brothers?

No, it's a cartoon. It's a cartoon and the guy is like pickaxing his way. He's digging underground. He's like doing this. Yeah, that. Yeah, Lindsay knows what I'm talking about. I have never seen this before in my life. Oh, get out of town.

You've seen this before. Yeah, people know it. Fran says he saw the meme last time he was mid-libathon. Of all the people who I know, I don't think Fran would enjoy Love is blind. I think he is probably at the bottom of the power ranking of enjoying that show. And, like, Fran likes good, you know, that's what it is. Fran likes good TV. And this is not good TV.

TV. Yeah. Sometimes you need a little bit of like... Thank you to Julia, who also had no idea what you were talking about. Lindsay knew. And Lindsay knows why I'm not going to say, like, what it's used for a lot. Clearly, it's something untoward. We're in EJ time.

It's not untoward. There's nothing untoward about it. Then what is it usually used for? It's usually used for, like, gambling. Like, it's like, yeah. Okay. I didn't know if that was the right thing to point out. I don't know.

That's fine. I'm not trying to get myself jammed up here. It could have been a reference to the whole digging out thing you put yourself into a few months ago. My stance on that is now established, which is it is like a British expression. And the only thing I can say about it is it shows you how much time I spend listening to like soccer podcasts. That's all. Francis, he doesn't hate it. Love is blind.

Wow. All right. You think you know a guy. he's not in but he's Meg watches it without him and he'll pop in every now and then Yeah and he probably like gets into like one episode every season Yeah is that what he said Yeah he probably is like oh like that's ridiculous

That's that like I said that Also someone said I was a Chris guy in the chat I don't know if I've ever been more offended in the studio Like that is an outrageous thing to charge me with Just what are we doing Is someone trying to dig it out I mean they're basically saying I don't respect women It's like what are we doing

awful okay any other eagles thoughts percolating in your mind that you'd like to um percolating in my mind um no i'm excited for quackatology later this week uh i'm gonna do a real mock draft i'm gonna try to get it in under the gun so did you do the sadeek one i i redid it got it i didn't like how the draft played out with sadeek at the top okay that's what i was getting at um yeah i think they i think you go tackle it what we did you go tackle first round and then you can get your inline tight end on day two or day three it's funny though because i was using franz a big board to like guide me in the later rounds so fran loved my mock draft he's hit me with the all lowercase oh wow i didn't know how to take that um but yeah using fran's board

on that simulator was uh like shooting fish in a barrel well yeah you're yeah had the answer playing to your audience yeah yeah okay that's good Don't read it. Very funny CDP. Trying to imagine what those podcasts would be about. I listened to a lot of soccer podcasts. That's all I'll say. All right.

Thank you, Lindsay. Thank you, everybody else. Thank you, E.J. We'll talk you tomorrow. Fran is back. Thank you, Fran. Is in studio. We're going to talk about whatever he wants to talk about.

He's done all the work. He just got, whatever. he wants to talk about, he gets to. And then quackatology comes later in the week. A lot of players to get to 64. As we break down who the Eagles most likely outside signing is going to be. Should be a fun week.

Oh, yeah. Speaking of Fran, check out the PHOY YouTube page. Fran and Lindsay put together a great vlog of his time in Indianapolis. You can really track like the excitement at the start. The tiredness as the week goes on.

Yeah, the life leaving his body as the week goes on. It was a little teaser video. Didn't I make a cameo on that? I remember Fran kind of. Yes, you do make a cameo. So let's check out this little teaser video before we leave. Meetings this morning. We've got a 7 o'clock coffee, 7.30 breakfast, 9 o'clock pressers.

This is the media workroom. So we've got eight podiums. Four tables is where all the press conferences happen. I have three hours of interviews, grab a quick coffee, grab a maybe a little small bite to eat, and I'll be heading over to the stadium. Lucas Oil, time to check in for the first of four days worth of drill. We've got quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers this morning, speaking at the podium. In between, I'll be here at Radio Row.

I hope you guys enjoyed this little vlog here from the 26 NFL scouting combine. What a delight. Just it's I've enjoyed working with everyone here But like man, seeing Fran, I said this on the elevator right up. Like seeing Fran work like up close

It is really just like unbelievable. You know? I agree. Yeah. And I agree that. Lindsay. All right. No, please.

No, Lindsay is incredible. No, no. No, no. Lindsay is the all on the backbone of the show. Charlie does particularly anything interesting. Charlie is an excellent reporter. Yeah. Charlie, I could learn a lot from Charlie.

I don't think Derek Bonner brings anything to the table. Oh, come on, man. Go on. Derek is his understanding of the salary cap, his understanding of the game of basketball. Derek Bonner. Good guy. Derek Bonner.

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