PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - Philadelphia Eagles pregame show: A.J. Brown, Jalen Hurts look to EXPLODE in matchup vs. PIT | PHLY

Episode Date: December 15, 2024

Time to put up for the Philadelphia Eagles passing game. Against the best defense they play all season, can DeVonta Smith, A.J. Brown and Jalen Hurts get back on track throwing the ball behind Lane Johnson and Jordan Mailata? Or will it be the Saquon Barkley show again? Meanwhile, Jalen Carter, Zack Baun, Quinyon Mitchell and C.J. Gardner-Johnson should be able to shut down Russell Wilson and the Steelers offense without George Pickens. Will that be enough?Fran Duffy breaks down everything you need to know about the matchup with Rich Hofmann before Zach Berman joins live from the LINC. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello, everybody. We have a big football game today. Eagles Steelers and welcome in to the P. H.L.Y. Eagles pregame show presented by Miller Lite. Get Miller Lite delivered right to your door or visit Millerlight.com slash p. H.L.Y. Birds. You can find it pretty much anywhere that sells beer. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 96 calories per 12 ounces and fewer cows and carbs than your premium regular beer. Okay, thank you to Miller Light. Fran, we got a big one today, man. We do a lot of juice. We were kind of watching the early slate, not a lot of great games going on. Yep. But the late slate has a couple of heavyweight matchups, and the Eagles and the Steelers are definitely one of them.

Yeah, and honestly, if you are an Eagles fan, this is really the last big test for the Eagles going into the playoffs. I obviously look, they've got a matchup against Washington, who looks like they're on their way to victory against a hapless New Orleans Saints team. But I think when you look at the Eagles slate the rest of the way, this is their best test here going up. Certainly defensively, I mean, this defense led by Mike Tomlin, Terrell Austin, the defense coordinator,

it's going to be a big test for Jalen Hertz. And on the other side, you know that Russell Wilson, they present their own host of challenges as well. So, Fran, I do think heading into this game, this is unfortunate, but I feel like people are going to make this game a referendum on the week that just was. Sure.

With the passing attack, if AJ and Jalen get it together, if they have a huge game, all as well, and if they struggle, then maybe people will think there's something a little more going on there. It's probably not fair. That is the way it is. Let's talk about that passing game, though, Fran. And what I have found funny is that a lot of the discussion this week has been about Jalen protecting the football. And whether maybe he has strayed a little bit too far the other way after the first month of the year after last season,

where he was turning the ball over at a pretty high clip. I find it pretty funny that that has been the talk this week of, okay, maybe he needs to let it loose a little bit more. Maybe he needs to trust AJ on some of these throws. They are playing the team that feasts on turnovers more than any team in the league. So quarterbacking harder than it looks, but it's obviously a team that definitely feasts on your mistakes. Yeah, and that's the thing when you go up against this Pittsburgh Steelers defense is that they're able to create those turnovers at all three levels, Rich.

You talk about T.J. Watt up front, Mika Fitzpatrick on the back end, Patrick Queen. They've done a nice job at linebacker this year. I think when you look at this defense at all three levels, it's a fast group, it's an aggressive group, and this scheme is predicated on challenging you in every way and then trying to take the football away. But honestly, when I look at the way that this matchup is kind of spills out, we talked about it on the Thursday show,

myself and Zach, we were saying, you know what, this game is going to play out in a way, like we're going to get a decent feel about how the Eagles feel about this past game because look, the Pittsburgh Steelers, they love to play single high, they're going to take that second safety, they're going to roll them down close to the line of scrimmage,

they're going to try and sell out to stop the run. And so that means you're going to have those one-on-one opportunities, whether it's press man coverage or if it's cover three, AJ Brown, Devante Smith, more often than not, they're going to face one-on-one. So the opportunities are going to be there in the past game if Jalen Hertz wants them down the field. And now it's going to come down to, to your point. Is he going to be a little bit conservative and say, hey, I want to put the ball in harm's way? Or is he going to say, hey, you know what, we have to come out and make some kind of a statement after the week that was here in the city of Brotherly Love. and I'm fascinated to see what their approach is

because obviously can go a lot of different ways, right? They could go conservative, and then if they go conservative, then this whole week is we're going to be having that same conversation. They don't have the teeth in the past game, how are they going to get this going? If they do stay aggressive, right, or if they go back to being aggressive

and it doesn't work, then they're saying, well, this is why they should have been running the ball the whole time, or it's get aggressive, succeed, and this is why they should have been thrown the whole time. Jalen Hertz's MVP, and the Eagles are winning the Super Bowl. So really it's going to be a lot of fun about how this plays out here this week. It's going to be a narrative game because like you said, again,

Washington is going to be a little bit of a test next week. They could lose that game, obviously. But even in that sense, like they're still going to have the number two seed pretty much locked up. If they play competent football against some bad teams down the stretch. Yeah, it's going to be a referendum on the past game. I did not know kind of watching this season live. This is something that DeNiz has pointed out. that this is going to be the best defense that the Eagles have faced all year.

And it's funny, when you bring up something like DVOA, part of the reason that the Eagles DVA pass-wise specifically is a lot lower than you would think is that they haven't played a lot of good defenses, France. So like the idea that this is the only top 10 defense that they're going to face all year, that's pretty crazy. And like you said, they could play conservative, but those are the type of games that the Steelers tend to win, right? I looked at their schedule this year.

they've won three games this season where they've scored in the teens. Their kicker is excellent. Eagles kicker has not been excellent recently. So I do wonder if they get into one of those conservative games, they've kind of been able to pull away from some of these teams just because they've been able to out-talent them. I do wonder if this is the team that hopefully the first quarter looks a little bit better. If I could pick one team that, okay, you score, let's say, 10 points on your first three

drives or something like that. It would make a world of difference against this team because, Because like you said, you know, it's just, it's a tough team to play against. It works in their favor of the fact that the Sears have not been great in the first quarter offensively either. And so it's not like you would expect that Russell Wilson, Najee Harris and this group, especially without George Pickens, are going to come out and get to this fast start defensively. I do like the fact that this Eagles defense, Vic Fangio's unit, this should be a great matchup for them. I think that they size up really, really well against this group. And that's even with George Pickens in the lineup, I would still feel the same.

but especially with him out, I feel really good that the Eagles are going to be able to keep this game in the teens on defense. Now it's just a matter of, okay, what are the Eagles are able to do offensively against what you said? The best defense that certainly they faced this season. And so now I think when you look at Jalen Hertz,

you look at Sequin Barkley, look at A.J. Brown, one of the things they've done, even when it hasn't always been clean from a past game standpoint, they haven't found those explosive plays, they just wear on you, that the talent wins out. That's why I do think,

well, not to completely give away, way of my score prediction. I do think the Eagles win this game. Now it's just a matter of how well is it tilted in their favor. So one thing I was thinking about with that defense today, just because Russell Wilson is somebody who likes to push the ball down the field. Yeah. And it doesn't feel like they're a team that as you've pointed out like schemes guys open in the middle of the field. It's more of a vertical passing game. He throws those moon balls. Is this the game where Quinyon Mitchell gets his first interception because Russell Wilson's going to throw it there anyway, right? And the options aren't great. I do.

wonder if it's that type of game. I'm with you. I think the Eagles should win. Vic Fangio's defense. They struggled a little bit more than we thought last week. It, you know, it's funny. I told Jamie earlier this week. That game reminded me of the Washington game on Monday night. Yes. Super Bowl year years ago where they were just, they were just giving up like some key plays. And Carolina was able to sustain drives. Even though when you look at the rushing numbers at the end of the game, it doesn't look all that impressive for the other team. It just felt like most of the key plays they didn't get it done. So hopefully. they get back to it if they if they play like they have over this two months stretch they should be

at a pretty big advantage yeah and that's when you look at what the identity of this pittsburgh offense has been for the majority of this season it's predicated on those often those deep pass routes outside the numbers down the field russell wilson chucking it up to george pickins or to austin or to whoever they've got lined up outside the numbers and that given play we've seen mike Williams makes in place for them in recent weeks. Van Jefferson is there as well, a former second round pick. But I think when you look at that group, it's we're going to go for the deep shot. We're going to have a run game that we're going to lean on.

And they're, they are going to try and run the ball. They just haven't been great running the ball. They have not been in a very explosive rushing attack for the majority of this. And I think ultimately it's going to come down to are the Eagles able to take away those deep balls when they're there, when they do check the ball down. Because that's the thing is Russell Wilson hasn't really, you know, put the ball in harm's way. He's done a nice job of not forcing turnovers for that Steelers offense.

he's been good at taking the checkdowns, but the Steelers have done a nice job, converting some of those checkdowns into big plays. That is not something the Eagles have done all season. They've done a really good job at corralling those checkdown throws, tackling the catch, getting those guys to the ground. And so that's why to me,

I feel like this plays really well for the Eagles defense in this game. It's going to come down to the matchups on the other side of the ball. So you mentioned some of those matchups. And I feel like for one of these games, let's go to the other side of the ball first. I feel like T.J. Watt against Lane Johnson is a pretty titanic matchup. And because of all the other stuff that's going on beyond Lane Johnson, like, it's funny that AJ said when he was backtracking his car. I wouldn't say backtracking.

BG was backtracking his comments. When AJ was further explaining his comments this week, he said, you know, when I talk about the passing game, it could mean pass protection. It's like, I don't know. It seems like the past protection is pretty good. But Lane Johnson against T.J. Watt, that's good against good. No doubt. And Lane Johnson has proven in all of these matchups, you know, when he goes up against Micah Parsons, when he goes up. up against Nick Boso and he goes up against the best of the best, he typically wins out on those

matchups. So what he's done over the course of his entire career, especially these last several years, when he's pitching shutouts week after week after week. But then when he goes up against those types of players, he typically does so much better than your average tackle. And I say, so I think, you know, in this one, I would expect to go in the lane's favor once again. I think ultimately, though, the big one to watch will be at wide receiver and corner, you know, you look at whoever's lined up against Joey Porter Jr. My guess is they'll take Joey Porter Jr. and put him up against A.J. Brown. That's what they've done

mostly. And then Deante Johnson, are Dante Jackson, I should say, the other corner for the Pittsburgh Steelers. He'll be matched up on Devante Smith. I think there's opportunities there against both guys for both of those receivers. Yeah, I mean, it would be nice. Devante Smith, obviously he did deal with the injury for a couple

weeks, but we have not had the huge Devante game a lot this year. The one game against Jacksonville definitely stands out when AJ was hurt. Again, the Eagles have two of these right if you if you have the stud corner in joey porter and he travels against a j the entire game in theory you should be able to have a lot of success going the other way but also you know throw the ball to a j too i think it'll be it'll be okay uh here's another part of the defense that i was thinking about to me it seems like a big part of this game is that russell wilson he's not the same guy we

saw in seattle a decade ago who by the way as an eagles fan just frustrated me more than never lost the eagles any other player and really like just deflating trying to get him on the because he would run around for forever. Yeah. So he's not that same type of player, but he's doing similar things now, Fran. And last week against Bryce Young, they had trouble getting him on the ground, right?

Only one sack. Again, I think Bryce Young made a lot of nice plays that play in the end zone on the last drive in particular. It's like, all right, sometimes you've got to shake his hand or whatever. But it seems like a big part of this game is going to be getting to Russell Wilson, not letting him extend plays, you know, letting some of these weaker wide receivers for Pittsburgh get open. Yeah, I think that you'll probably see the Eagles play a little bit more man coverage than what we've seen in recent weeks and maybe use that extra defender that you're not using in zone.

Maybe use them to potentially spy or Russell Wilson. We'll see how often they try and lean into that. You might see Zach Bond used in that kind of a role. But I do think that the Eagles defensive front overall. They've got to do a little bit of a better job at just playing contain. We've seen them at that times. Do excellent work with that. Against Lamar Jackson for the majority of that game.

I thought they were really, really strong there. Jaden Daniels in the Washington game the week before. I think they did an excellent job. So we've seen them do it at a really high level. Last week they were able to let Bryce Young out of their grasp a handful of times. Look, he was pressured 30 times last week, Bryce Young, and was still able to make a number of those plays and was only sacked once. And so you'd like that ratio to be a little bit better here against Russell Wilson and the Steelers.

Yep, 100%. All right. We got our guy on the scene. ZB is coming live to us from the link. I believe he's, he can be here. pretty shortly. There he is. There is. What's up, Zach? How, uh, how is it down there? What's the field? We got a big game today, man. Yeah, 425 game and 11 and 2 team and 10 and 3 team. Nice December chill when you're walking through the parking lot. This, this feels like meaningful

football. Uh, and even on the sideline before the game, you know, I got my binoculars. I'm saying, you got the governor there. Uh, you got some, some, some big shots here. Tom Brady's calling this game. So yeah, it feels like a big game. As far as like the fan sentiment, the parking lot, rude, if you will, there's a lot of excitement and rightfully so for when you get two teams with double-digit wins this time of year. They don't play each other often. Pittsburgh's never won in Philly, but there's that interstate, I don't want to, I don't want to say interstate rivalry, but you heard Mike Tomlin say this week, it's the Pennsylvania state championship. So it certainly does feel like the big game.

So, Zach, one of the big things that people were tweeting about, it spread on social media and Reddit, Jalen Hurts, when he walked in, it wasn't that people were just looking at what he was wearing his suit. He did seem to have a bandage on his left hand. What can you tell us about that and kind of just observing Jalen the entire year? Just what do you make is going on there? Yeah, we've been talking about this on the show all week. So listeners aren't surprised by this and viewers aren't surprised by this.

Gell and Hertz had his finger wrapped up, his left ring finger wrapped up after the game last week in the post game press conference. He was hiding it. There was one point where he wiped his face and you saw it. He was on the injury report Wednesday with a finger injury, left finger. It's his ring finger. He has been, he'll just been in practice. He's playing.

Now, I saw a report, I believe he interrupted report, said it's broken or apparently broken. I had not heard that. I'll try to find out more, but he's clearly dealing with something with that left finger. But it hasn't hindered him as far as practice, participation. We'll see if it affects ball security or anything of that nature. But from all indications, well, I should say he, I should say from all indications.

He's playing and it hasn't stopped in that practice this week. Zach, you and I spoke at length on Thursday show, just about the matchup here with the Eagles past game, Jalen Hertz, everything that happened here this week and everything that was highly discussed in the city, going into this matchup and how there would be opportunities there for him in the past game. Since you and I last spoke on Thursday about it, do you have any more insight in terms of how they're going to try and approach this? What do you think that their approach will be early on in this game?

Yeah, so I think internally the Eagles feel like they can run against anybody. That said, you know, Sequin Barkley, he told the story earlier this week where his only interaction with Mike Tomlin was before that game in 2020 when Mike Tomlin said it's going to be a long night and Saquan had six yards and 15 carries.

So Fran hit it on the head in his opponent preview and on the end of the show Thursday, Pittsburgh is going to be committed to trying to stop Saquan Barkley. I was on a Steelers Depot podcast on Friday and they said like the, you know, the Steelers have not been shy about,

about this. They're going to, they're planning to stop the run. Now, of course, Baltimore planned on stopping the run too, right? And the Eagles were able to run on Baltimore. The Eagles have been able to run on just about everybody this year except for Cleveland, really. That said, I think, as, as Fran pointed out, they're going to be inviting opportunities through the air. You're going to see single high. You're going to see man coverage. And when you have A.J. Brown, in particular, but A.J. Brown, Devonte Smith, you feel confident those guys can beat man coverage. So I think the Eagles are going to have opportunities through the Now, I think that if they come out throwing early, which I expect them to do, one sentiment from the outside is going to be this is a reaction to the comments last week.

I don't think that's what this would be. I think this would just be a football decision. This is the way to play against Pittsburgh. But the very reason why A.J. Brown said he wanted to speak up and spoke to Devante Smith Friday. Devante said he felt it was time to speak up after that last game is he thought going into that game, there were opportunities against Carolina. So there are going to be opportunities against Pittsburgh, and it's incumbent upon Janwin Hertz and A.J. Brown and Devante Smith. And I should say the offensive line, too, because Jordan Milata pointed out that he said there were three plays. I think he said three plays to A.J. Brown where he actually missed his block right there or took the wrong assignment that affected those plays.

So when a passing play doesn't go the way it's drawn up, as AJ pointed out this week, there's a lot of different things involved, just the quarterback. Zeevi, last one from me. This subject is not as much fun to talk about, but it is critical. And Jake Elliott, I feel like kind of owes A.J. Brown and J. Hertz a little bit of gratitude

because he would have been a bigger story this week. Obviously, you wrote about Jake in your notebook this week for the website. What is everything you kind of learned about the state of Jake? And we have DeNiz is offering pre-game warm-up

recaps on Jake. What have you learned about Jake this week? Yeah, it's a good question. It's more what I've learned over seven years. And that Jake, if you spend any time around him, is very even keeled. Now, you hear that a lot. Doesn't get too high, doesn't get too low about a lot of people.

But Jake in particular has always been that way. I remember sitting down with him the week after he kicked that 61 yarder against the Giants and back in 2017 and just, like just how grounded he was then really struck me. And he's kind of been that way. And he says he says he doesn't look at his numbers. He says he really lives kick to kick. And so the way that he got over, the bad kick was by kicking in Wednesday's practice

and says he goes based on his last kick. Now, I don't think this can be swept under the rug because this has been going on, by the way, since the preseason. I remember the post-game press conference in the preseason. I asked Nick Siriani if he's concerned about Jake. he's if jaylegett missed an extra point and missed a 50 yarder in that preseason game against balcimore uh and so he's over five beyond 50 the only way for him to not be over five beyond 50 or like is is to be one for six right um so it's it's really going to come down to what his next kick is

jake elliott's not going anywhere in that he's earned too much and he earns too much so he he has too much equity with eagles and he makes too much for them to kind of make this a revolving door at kicker. It's going to be similar. I saw, you know, Justin Tucker didn't have to kick field goals today from what I saw. I mean, Lamar Jackson made five, you know, or three,

five touchdowns. But Justin Tucker's last game was that game against the Eagles. When, you know, he missed kicks and affected the game, the Ravens roll with Justin Tucker. And Justin Tucker is having a worse year than Jake Elliott. So this is a roundabout way of saying that I can tell you what Jake Elliott said. I can tell you what Michael Clay said. I can tell you what next year, I said,

but the proof is going to be in the next kick. All right, Jimmy, last one. What do you think? What do you think of today's game? Give us your prediction. I like the Eagles in this game. And I say that because without George Fickens, I really think the Stewart is going to have trouble moving the ball.

Now, they played against an electric offense at Baltimore order this year, and they were able to limit Baltimore's point. So this is a game that's played in the teams, If this is a field goal type game, it favors Pittsburgh. If this is a sloppy game, you know, if this is a 15, 13 game or 16, 13 game, that plays in the Pittsburgh's hands. I think the Eagles are going to be able to score enough. And I don't think the, I don't think Pittsburgh is going to be able to keep pace there.

I think if the Eagles can get into the 20s, they win this game because I don't see the Steelers scoring into the 20s. I don't see the Steelers moving ball as effectively. So I am going with Eagles 21, Steelers 17. Sounds good. All right, man, we'll let you get to it. Zach, thanks for joining in. Zach will join Fran and Bo and Vinny on the postgame show.

As always, enjoy the game, my friend. Appreciate it, guys. Talk soon. See, Zach. All right, Fran, we will get into our predictions and our best bets, but first we'll say a little something from our sponsors. And Fran, I am here to tell you about our friends at TrueMark Financial Credit Union. And while the Eagles, perhaps at times, have tested this idea. It is hard to win without proper coaching.

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So I think the Eagles could have been able to clinch the division today if that had gone their way. Oh, well, we might have to wait a couple more weeks for that. Yeah, wait one week for that. And you can take care of business at that at that dump in Landover, Maryland. Okay, friend, let's get to our best bets of today. I know you are your pinch hitting as somebody who's worked for the team for a long time. You've been dipping your toe. Yeah, a little bit.

Into the picks this week. Our picks are presented by Bet365. Use code PHLY or PHLY 365 when you sign up. Whatever the moment, it's never ordinary at Bet365. You must be 21 plus and physically located in Pennsylvania. If you or someone you know has a gambling problem and wants help, caller text 1-800 gambler so for our bets this week myself and bow jumped in and we'll look at bow's first devante smith longest reception uh over 19 and a half yards and i do kind of look it gets into what we

talk about with a j brown uh i think that my my guess is look i do think that they're going to try and run the ball they're going to try and assert themselves on the ground but i do think the fact that we've seen so little downfield passing from jalen hertz and you had that circled from uh early on in the game last week against Carolina. You're going to see some deep balls from Hertz in this game. And now it's a matter, do they go to AJ? Do they go to Devante? My guess you'll see a little bit of both.

So I do like Bose bet there. And also the Eagles D over three and a half sacks. We've seen that Russell Wilson will run into some sacks at times. This one could be a little bit tough. You mentioned the slippery nature of Russell Wilson at times. He's throwing the ball away a ton. He is. He's thrown the ball away a ton.

That's it. He will step into some sacks. I do like that from Bo. For me, Devante Smith has been John on the spot. I know the numbers haven't been there from a volume standpoint, like you mentioned, but he's done a nice job of reaching the end zone in recent weeks. I thought that plus 240 for Devante Smith anytime touchdown. That seemed like a really nice bet for me. And then to me, the under was just screaming here for me. Under 42 with these two teams. As Zach mentioned,

I think that the I think the Steelers are going to struggle getting out of the teens. And so, okay, if you think that they're going to get 16, we'll say, I can't imagine that the Eagles can certainly they score 26. They can put up 30 points on basically anybody just because of this talent. But with the game being what it is, the state of the passing game being what it is, I kind of like the under here for the Eagles in this one. I think Braden Mann and the Pittsburgh punter, who I don't know who he is, are going to have some chances to kick the ball. Yeah. Yeah. Especially with how slow the Eagles have started. I like the Devante bet, especially because of what we talked about earlier that Joey Porter might be on A.J. Brown. Yep. It's Jackson on the other side, right?

Yep, Dante Jackson. Who they should be able to get. I think you put. in your notes that he is susceptible to a double move, right? Maybe you hit Devante for the long ball that we saw against Sincy or Jacksonville. Yeah, that would be nice. All right, friend, let's wrap it up here and go with our predictions. I will start. Like ZB, I think the Eagles are going to win.

And I think, like you said, it's going to be a defensive game. I think Vic Fangio and this defense has all the tools to shut down this Pittsburgh offense. Where, yes, Russell Wilson, he has never lost a. the Eagles. I think that comes to an end though this week just because of their defense, right? And it might be a game where we still have some questions about the passing game, even though they are going up against one of the better defenses. So I like something in the range of like 20 to 10, something like that. I think the defense is going to put on a show in this game. And Pittsburgh's really going to struggle to move the ball. I know they struggled a little bit last week against Carolina,

But in the defense's case, that felt like they just weren't up for their opponent. They had played so well for the previous two months that that's, you know, I feel like that's okay. You can give them a pass for a week. You're not going to be perfect every week in the NFL. Steelers coming in with a great record. Toughest test, the rest of the year. I think they're going to be up for it. And I think we're going to see a lot of boost shots of Vic Fangio, despite the fact that Vic doesn't like that.

I think we're going to see that gorgeous mug on television a lot today. So for me, I think both teams come out a little bit slow offensively. I think it's like seven to six at halftime, something along those lines where it's really tight, but the defense kind of wins things out the first couple quarters. I think then we see what we've come to expect from this Eagles offense where they start to kind of pull away once you get into the third quarter. They go into the fourth quarter. They've got a commanding lead.

Then Pittsburgh comes back. And Russell Wilson has a couple of garbage time points. I'm going to pick the Eagles to win here. 21 to 16. I don't think the Eagles cover. I do think the Steelers are able to cover the five and a half point spread, but I think that the Eagles do end up winning this game and edging things out. Well, that would be great.

And then we will look to Buffalo, Detroit at the same time because that's going to have a lot of implications really on whether the last three weeks of the season matter at all. Right. Yes. It's basically in Josh Allen and Buffalo's hands today. Two great games going on. It's going to be fun, man. I can't wait to watch this one.

We're going to head in, watch. the first half, we will join you again for the halftime show. So make sure to come back. And then Bo and Vinny will be here for the postgame show. Zach will join in for that one as well. So for the PHLI Eagle Show, I'm Rich Hoffman. This is Fran Duffy. Thanks to Julia behind the scenes.

As always, taking care of the behind the scenes work for the show. Enjoy the game, everybody.