PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - Philadelphia Eagles Super Bowl media night: Jeffrey Lurie SPILLS THE TEA

Episode Date: February 4, 2025

NEW ORLEANS — Jeffrey Lurie loves him some wee little leprechaun basketball players and he might just want a dome in Philadelphia. Howie Roseman had his own funny stuff to say. Vinny Curry was a star and everything else was kind of a cluster! But as A.J. Brown, Vic Fangio, DeVonta Smith and the rest of the Eagles get ready for the big game, we’re here to unpack it all.Join Zach Berman, Fran Duffy and Bo Wulf for a punchy late-night pod to recap media night. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hi, I doing, and welcome to the P. H.O.I. Eagles podcast. Bowulf, Fran Duffy, Zach Berman presented by Bet365 and Ace Hardware Home Services. Download the Bet365 app and use code. P.HL.Y.365, when you sign up, whatever the moment, it's never ordinary at Bet365 and make sure that you visit Ace Hardwarehomeservices.com to get started on your next project. We are here in an empty radio row. Who else is working this late? nobody nobody but we are you know why because it was media night and we've got a lot to talk about it was not a well-run event but that's okay

it was not because Zach Berman got the scoops he got the tea Fran how you doing we haven't seen you I know I've seen in a long time in way too long I know it's been a long time but I'm happy to be back it's been a it's been a long couple weeks but a fun couple weeks how much did you miss us a lot I miss you guys a lot shrine game shrine game senior bowl shrine bowl you got to get back to the I will never get that right. People will get upset by that one. Shrine bowl.

Just because they call it opening night doesn't mean I have to call it opening night. It's a median night. They went to great lengths to graduate from Shrine game to Shrine Bowl, pay them to respect that they are doing. Why is that better? Why is it better than the game? I don't know because that's what they want. Okay, Zach, how you do it? I'm great.

I'm so excited that we're all together again. Awesome, a few weeks from Fran. Appropriately, it has been in like three company memos since we saw him last. So, yeah, I mean, the Fran stock, the only stock that's better than the Fran stock right now is the Vinny's stock. Oh, my goodness. Gracious. Wait until you guys see the clips. Vinny was absolutely on fire at Media Night Tonight tonight.

Very fun to watch. However, it was a really, truly, poorly, terribly run event. It's an absolute cluster. This is my fourth Media Night. And it has never been like this before. It was like they had the whole field sequestered. off. Nobody could go in the field. And so it's like just the length of the sidelines around the perimeter. And it was, it was like a total traffic jam. Like, you couldn't move. It was terrible.

You couldn't talk to anybody. You know the scene in Game of Thrones or the, it's the Battle of Bastards where John Snow and like everybody at the end is like, that's, that's what that was for a good 25 minutes. It was terrible. Julie and I were tethered together and we're like, I'm like, just like, she's like holding under my hood. I'm like, just follow me. I'm trying to get through here. It was awful. Yeah, it was really bad. But the The good news is we have a lot to get to because Zach did the right thing. And unbelievable. Boy, are we grateful for our, our Intrepid Eagles Insider, Zach Berman, who spent basically hours with Jeffrey Lurie, just getting the tea, you know, talking about all those text messages

that you guys exchanged, the funny memes that you have. But you've got a lot of insight to give to us, Howie Roseman, as well. But I do want to lead the show with what I think was the most important interview of the night. And that was I was able to catch up with Joe Penunzio. about being mistaken for Vic Fangio in the wire services. And what he said? He was aware of it. Yes.

Was he complimented? Was he? He said, yeah, he thinks that what happens is they want to make Vic look better. That's a good line. This is their opportunity to do so. That's a good line. But then, you know, we wouldn't be here where we are without Vic. He's like the biggest reason why we're here, all this stuff.

But, yeah. Nice. That's good stuff. My through line tonight, but where's okay, was basically asking guys if the Eagle win this game, will Vic smile. And what was the, well, I don't want to give away. Don't give it away.

Well, don't give away. Well, don't give away. Looking's free, but touching's going to cost you. I don't know how that's applicable. But you go for it. I missed you guys. All right. I missed you.

It's going to be a long week. I needed a buffer. It felt like... This is our only late-night pod. It felt too much like 2023. So, yeah. A super chat already from salute to Jaco or Hako, who says, Can you give us the top five active NFL players most hated by Eagles fans?

Interesting. He mentions Frankie Livu, Dree Greenlaw, Patrick Mahomes. Hmm. Oh. I would say the Greenlaw is up there. I see, the thing is, I think that most Eagles fans, hate like Eagles related things more.

Like they probably hate Matt Patricia more than they hate Frankie Louvre. I don't know. I could be wrong. Yeah. Is Carson up high on this? Carson's probably high on that list. Yeah. Let us know in the chat what you think. Who else deserves to be in the line? I thought I did think of clowny. Clowny is a good one. Clowny is a very good one. I just want to say I'm not looking for a medal. I'm not looking for recognition,

okay? But if If you ever doubt my commitment to the show as opposed to like the reporting, okay, no, that I bypassed the chance to talk to Carson once tonight because I thought it was important. That's true. I thought I thought it was important that all of us are together for the show. This is, I'm not asking for that. I just want to be clear because sometimes it seems that a leachis or, you know, that I've always, yeah, I want to. the extra time of the press conference. So, yeah, I knew it was important that we're all together tonight.

Yeah. Yeah. I appreciate you doing that. Absolutely. That's good. Because otherwise, we really wouldn't have much to talk about it. We didn't get to see Jeffrey. And you got the stuff.

All right, let's get to it. Because you have a lot of newsy stuff. Sure. From Jeffrey Lurie. And, yeah, like, you will be able to see some of the highlights of the press conferences of AJ and Jalen and all those guys. But they're also going to talk the rest of the week. as you told us today, this was like, this was your chance to get to get with Jeffrey.

Yeah, and I'll say there's a lot of like big picture stuff that is good for, you know, stories and perspective and like you hear Jeffrey's insight. But as far as news, that's kind of what I will lean into. So is there something in his future involving a wee little apricon? Okay, so the Boston Celtics. A little dribbling wee little lepracons. So he said that, and I will pull up exactly what he essentially said that he's not looking to buy another sports franchise, okay? And he did say, but if he follows the rainbow, there might be a pot of gold. All right, he said, I'm not interested in acquiring another sports team.

I think it's connected because that's my childhood team. And then he went on to like praise the Celtics, like the amount of razors, the amount of banners that we've raised and how he views. The Celtics is like a kindred soul to the Eagles. Like, really speaking lovingly about them. He said, my focus is on my love of the Eagles and to win another Super Bowl for Philadelphia. And I'm obsessed. And so then it was followed up thereafter. Like, wait, are you going to be part of a – so you're not going to be part of a group buying the Celtics, basically.

Or you are going to be part of a group buying the Celtics, yes or no. And he said, I don't expect anything really. I would never say never, but I'm not looking to own another sports franchise. The Celtics are exceptional. they're so well run they're so talented they're my childhood team however i do not expect that to happen so there's a few ways you can interpret this one this is this was not going to happen and it was just like his name was linked to it two he uh he was interested but he's not going to get it and so it's like fran i i hope i'm not speaking out of turn but fran was like it's like when mike mccarthy took

his name out of the same job right you're not going to get the job so it's like no i'm not actually it could be that or or maybe there's there's nothing there um I thought you had had really thoughtful things to say in your conversation with Shield on Philly Special about this. And that, like, I didn't see a scenario where Jeffrey Lurie would be running the Boston Celtics. You know, and I do think he is, he says, like, this is his life's work, the Philadelphia Eagles. And I think he's sincere when he says that. I've had that conversation with him enough over the years to know that's the case. but it's

he's not poo-pooing the report that he he didn't say the report was wrong he said he's not buying another sports franchise so do you read that between the lines that the McCarthy of it that it's like he's not getting it wants to be in it but he knows that he's not

going to get it or maybe he made a cut but there's a price tag that he's not going up toward yeah the bottom line is I don't based on what he said tonight I don't anticipate this happening also what he said never say never it's kind of like, well, maybe if the price comes down, you know. Right.

A bit of a negotiation publicly. Exactly. But no, he answered that twice and then a third time. It's so impressive that they've won so many championships when their players are so short. Leprecons. I thought they were making fun of me there. No, I would never do that. Okay.

That's why they've lasted so long. That's right. That's right. They've got the best stamina. Right, yeah. Okay. So that's one thing there. Regarding Siriani's contract, you know,

Siriani's entering the final year of his deal next year. He says in 30 years he hasn't talked about someone's contract, but he praised Siriani. He's, you know, someone said to him, you once said, Andy's your coach for life. I'm not expecting you to say that, but do you feel that way about Nick? And he said, yeah, he said,

really? He basically said he expects Nick's to be here in so many words. words. He was asked, well, so there were a few different things, actually, as doing this. I asked him at one point, what was your perspective of the team at the buy? And he said, he said, you know, I was talking to Bill Belichick about this once.

He literally started by, he's like, he's like, Belichick said that. He's texted Bill Belichick during the buy. You up? No, he said, 12 months ago. He said, Belichick said, all the years they want. they were like two and two, okay? He said the first month of the year, you want to win games, but you're really not focused on that

during the first month of the year. So he said he was very confident then. He was asked about Nick after the Cleveland game and like the way Nick comported himself. And he's like, it's like Nick's greatest strength and it's his greatest weakness. Something like that, you know, talking about like the passion. Yeah, this is the mince words on that.

You know how he feels about that. But he really praised Nick for delegating the offense to Kellyn for Vic. He called Vic like a Jim Johnson type for the defense. And he said, you know, Nick's done really well there. So he had good things to say about Nick. Sequin. Well, I asked about the offseason that the Eagles had. I didn't frame it as howly, but just kind of the offseason that they had.

And as I mentioned offensive player of the year candidate, defensive player of the year candidate, rookie of the year candidates. And he started actually by talking about the draft with that. And he said that never in his time have they had two players with equal grades and referring to at the same position that high, Quignan Mitchell and Cooper de Gene. So when they just took Quinyan, they were-

Speaking of that high, I did notice that there were a lot of players tonight wearing sunglasses inside, just putting it on the record. Yeah, that's the look. That's the style. Okay, I'm just saying. It's drippy. Some kids. Yeah.

Yeah, that is. You need some drip to wear indoor sunglasses. Or like a black eye. I mean, I just think it's part of the wardrobe. It's the accessory. Okay. So he. Let's take a minute to talk about your wardrobe because you did, you wanted to go home.

He said this is going to be a jacket event for me. Why are we getting into this? Which to me, I thought you were going to go then go button down. jacket, but you're going like Miami jacket. You're going... The unstructured jacket. You like that. The white tea jacket.

Yeah, this is something that... I don't know. I don't know why we're getting into this. We're here. This is something that Emily has brought up to me recently. It's something she wants to meet to incorporate more when I wear the jacket. The t-shirt jacket. The t-shirt.

The nice t-shirt jacket, yeah. Yeah, they go with the t-shirt. She thinks it's... Yeah, I don't know. I was more flattering, less like, just more casual, you know? Okay. Yeah. She's the drippy one.

She is exceedingly more stylish than I am. So absolutely. So this is something that she brought up. And, you know, I'm smart enough to know the listen to her. I had the jacket on, the sea of humanity that we sat in for a while. I sweat right through that bad, we have to take it off of the show. reminds me of a story my dad once did

where he was a mascot for a day where the Brevard County Manatees and the name of the mascot was Hugh Manatee. I like that. That's good. It's important to have humanity. As opposed to being a sociopath?

Like, I would agree. Didn't you say that you would outrun one of your friends to get eaten by a bear like a week ago? I've been listening to every episode when I was away. Just so all of you.

You know. I've been listening to every episode. What did you think of the draft? That was not your finest work. That's not what the commenters say. That's not what the commenters say. But Bo, just because Bo declares something, doesn't make it. That is true.

That I agree with it. Yeah, but he's smart enough to know that. You said I have no offensive line. I had like three all pros on that offensive line, right? Playing out of position. That was the flaw to the game Was that you guys should have done it The way that you were saying it

Yes You should have done it the way That's the way that Zach said In the beginning of the game Yes I was damned if I do If I don't there Anyways, Cooper de Gene

Cooper de Gene And Queen Dunn Mitchell Yeah so they were so determined To get Cooper to Jean And he said that when the Rams Traded up They did not think DeGine would get the 32

When he got past 32 And this has been documented. We talked about this in the draft, that that, that, they went to sleep saying they need to get cooped the gene. They thought they had the deal in place and the Rams traded in front of them and they were heartbroken. They thought it was, it was going to be the gene. It turned out to be Braden Fisk. So we talked about that. Then he talked about Sequin Barkley. And he said that the, they've always valued running backs. He talked about all the running backs that they've had and that they've paid. He said there's a difference between value and replaceability. But

they identified Sequin going back to when Sequin was coming out. Like, can you imagine if we could ever get this guy behind our offensive line? That's why he framed it. And then he talked about the value of paying Sequin, and he compared it to, he said a reserve, a good reserve guard. I think he meant like a good right guard maybe or a tight end. So he gave those two positions. Okay.

If it's reserve guard, I mean, there's not a lot of reserve guards being $13 million. But I understood the sentiment about, you know, tight end. I don't really agree with the value over replaceability thing, though, because that's why they're less valuable. Now, I understand the importance, maybe. He used the term importance. Okay, now that's fair. Yeah. Maybe he didn't say values at importance. Okay. That makes sense, yeah. Because they do, you know, you use a second round pick on Miles Sanders.

Like, yeah, you said they've always viewed as important. Yeah, that makes more sense. Going back to LaShawn and Westbrook. And so he was going on that whole path. Then with Zach Vaughn, he really gave credit to how. in the coaching development that the Eagles have for that. So that's so anyways, let's get to some other, the juicy items here. We will do that.

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You forgot the smiley emoji. Fair. All right, Zach. So I'm curious your guys' opinion on this, okay? So I asked Jeffrey Lurie about the South Dilley Stadium Complex and the Eagles future in the stadium complex. And he started talking about how they were neutral all along, even when there was all that talk about an arena. He kind of like poo-pooed that, you know, the arena in the city. But then he said, you know, they have to focus on what's best for their fans and for Philadelphia.

and he said he would really love to have a Super Bowl in Philadelphia. So that opened up the, you know, so he said they'll have a decision to make soon. And he was asked what the timeline was. He said, well, their lease is through 20, 32. And then he was asked about his view on an outdoor stadium in the Northeast. And he says he likes cold weather games, he likes hot weather games, he likes snow games. he likes that, but he thinks that Philadelphia deserves a Super Bowl, Final Four, other great events, and that's something that they really need to think about here.

So if you read between the lines, the headline for this is the Eagles won a dome. How intimate? Well, if they can get an arena like the Intuit Dome, they would be, or a stadium like the Intuit Dome, they'd be very fortunate. I mean, I don't know if they're going to pay what the Intuit Dome cost. I think it would be deeply, deeply embarrassing for the Eagles to have a dome. I really do. And I don't think there is anyone in Philadelphia who would trade having an outdoor football football for having a Super Bowl.

I think that is an owner-ego thing. I think there are people in Philadelphia who would make that trade. Well, sure. I don't know. I'm kind of indifferent to it, I think. I don't think I have a strong opinion either way. I think that sucks, man. So let me ask you this.

Okay, I'm just brainstorming here. I don't know if this is something they would ever come playing. No, no, what if they built a retractable roof dome, a retractable roof stadium that they commit to keeping open no matter what during football season? But it also has the functionality to therefore host a Super Bowl or other events. But they make, you know, they make a pledge that no matter the elements, this. Except for lightning. Yeah. This will be open.

But it can close for events that, you know, if there's a college football, a championship game, if there's Final Four, the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl. The Olympics, maybe soccer wants, you know, soccer doesn't want to play in the rain, let's say, right? So what if that was part of an arrangement? Would you, are, is it the principle of the dome or it's preserving the outdoor games that objects you or that you object to? Yeah, I mean, I would be less subjected.

Now we're both messing up this word. I would not objectify that. You would not object to that. Yeah, I mean, I still just don't love a dome in Philadelphia, but I think that would be fine, but I don't think that's what they would do. I mean, they wouldn't be building a dome for Eagles games. I think that's, I think because just when you consider the cost, the amount of home games that they have,

it doesn't make... What are you guys think in the chat? How angry would a dome make you? And if you're not up at, you know, 11 o'clock back home in Philly right now and you're watching this in the morning, please leave your opinion in the comments. Yes.

Because I'm curious what you think. I genuinely want to know what the audience thinks. Benjamin says, I'm putting it on the record that I would absolutely hate a dome. How else will I be able to buy playoff snow? valid point great point but the flip side to that is you got to walk this down that's how they're going to pay for the dome

is upcharging that place well let me ask the audience this do you want like is having a Super Bowl in Philly everybody so far on the chat anti-dome is having the final four in Philly having different events that are indoors that require you know a concert with 60 with 70,000 people is that important to you What about you, Fran?

I think that I'm of two minds on it because I do think that I agree with what you're saying, Bo, in that the sanctity of the outdoor weather games that there is something like romantic

about that with the game. Like I said, about tough football. I think there's something to be said for that. But I also think like, you know, as a Philadelphia,

and like I think it would be cool to have a, I do think it'd be cool to have a Super Bowl. I do think it'd be cool to host to be able to successfully host a Final Four and things like, that where, you know, they, they, they, it feels like, successfully as if, no, and because no, they've put a bid in to, to get those kind of events. And it feels like you are, you know, you're, you make it to the, to the final list, that final

cut, but don't get that, that, that push over the goal line. Whereas I, I think that would be very cool to be able to, to, to host that kind of event. So I kind of go both ways on it. I do agree. When you're trading like, you know, you're trading every single football season for one final four. like I don't know well that's it you said that the chat

overwhelmingly was was anti-dome as Zach was going through the retractable dome scenario a lot of people like that idea yeah but I just I don't believe that that's what they would do I don't either

I'm I believe in finding compromises so I think if if if the objection because I do think they wouldn't because even if it was retractable I don't believe that they would make that commitment to like this raining

they would probably close the dome. I don't think they would build a dome for the three Eagles games a year that might be affected by snow or really cold weather. Sure. The purpose of it would be for events. Exactly. So that's my point.

Is that if they say on one hand this is part of playing football in Philadelphia, on the other hand then I think that's the medium. But from my understanding a retractable dome is a retractable roof is considerably more

expensive than the fixed than the fixed roof. And the trend now is more like the translucent roof that makes you feel outside, but you're actually indoors. But that doesn't help you with snow or whether, yeah. Just faking and lying to people like every other thing that's going on in the world. Superjet from Jay Stangelo, Plainview, who says, I think the Eagles winning the Super Bowl will make me happy, but I am nervous that I'll still feel empty even with a win.

Fran, how can I be truly happy? Well, I mean, you've experienced both sides of the coin in the last, seven years. I think that I can't help you, CDP. Just keep sending those super chats and see if you can find that happiness.

Yeah, I do believe that now Zach reads a lot of these books and so I think he's come across this that one of the keys to happiness in life is spending more money on super chats. I'd be disingenuous so I said that's the case but it certainly increases our happiness.

Yes. Okay. So you don't, I mean, everything that Jeffrey talks about with relation to this thing that is a decade down the road or not, you know, not quite, it's a little bit of posturing, don't you think? In what sense? Like, for public money, for... Yeah, or, I mean, he knows that the lease is coming up. There's going to have to, there would have to be some negotiation with the city, like...

Well, that's the thing, is that even if it's down the line, you know, it takes a good six to eight years to plan and construct or... let's say five you know the sixers they were all along they were talking about 2031 uh this this deal with with with with comcast in south philly accelerated it so they can build it in in 231 we're already in you know in 2025 so uh the eagles in the future no so i'm saying so so so the eagles are only one year behind that 2025 geez the eagles are only one year behind that so uh this is something that I imagine, like this, this wasn't just, I imagine this, this wasn't just something Jeffrey said off the top of his head. I imagine this is conversations that they are having about the future of the same. That's what I mean.

I think it was intentional. Yes. Yes. Because I do think if he didn't feel this way, it's the easiest question to say, you know what, we're at the Super Bowl. We'll meet in March at the owner's meetings. You guys can ask me about this then. Yeah. But imagine all the people sitting in a door.

Look, I mean, I think it'd be cool. Just let him go. Me? There's no snow. Go ahead. He'll break eventually. So Philadelphia is the best sports city in the country. Okay?

I feel stronger about that. I will pound the table for that. Okay. There's nobody else here. There's no one else doing a show? Yeah. I'm with Jeffrey in this. Like why, you know, there should be a Final Four.

There should be. I agree. They had a WrestleMania. These great events. Now, I don't see why you can't have the Final Four in a 20,000-seat arena, right? But I get that for your chicken sales. Like, I don't care at all about a Final Four. What if Wake Forest was in it?

But it wouldn't matter to me where it was. I mean, look, it brings people to the city. You know, it's, you're in New Orleans right now. because there's a Super Bowl, right? Think about all the restaurants that you're eating at, all the hotels that people are staying at. I was talking to Oscar what the price of his hotel is this weekend. And it's like...

You're always just trying to make sure that you got the best deal. It's not in the middle. He knows he's been seen. You make him sweat. Oh my gosh. You got to... When we check into the hotel yesterday, Now, this is, this, Zach did an unbelievable job with this hotel.

He booked this, he booked these, you know, he was scouring in like July. Oh, this is like a long, long term stay rate. Then we've got these great rooms. It's a great deal at a good hotel. And we're checking in. And Zach is done checking in. Like, you know, he's very proud. We've all, he's hooked us up.

I thought it was a proud. As he's done, he's, the guy, the guy gives him his room key. He says room, whatever, whatever. And before as that goes, he goes, oh, is this a good room? You know what? Because I was doing what I was doing in that moment? I was empowering the employee.

I was making him feel like his opinion is valued by me. As if he stays in every room in the hotel. He knows. This is what he does. He checks people into rooms. It's like the waiter recommendation for what he gets to order for dinner. It's worse. It's a different level for that.

He knows the. room. He told me when I checked in, you're, you're, you have a river view. Okay. You're facing the river, you know, so, no, I said it's, it's, it's nice room. He said, yeah, you're facing the river. You know, you have a window overlooking the river. I mean, it's like, he knew all about the room. So, yeah. Is this a good room? Did I do a good job? No, it's not, it's not, it's not that I do a good job. It's that, you know what? I, um, I, I, I, I, I, I, I think his, his name was Daman or Damon, um, that I am, um, um, um,

Like, this is not just you giving me a key and you, you know, I, I value your opinion. I value this interaction that we have. I'm asking you what you think. I think that's, that's what people want. They want to be heard. They want to be recognized. I don't agree with that. Zach wants that experience to happen to a hotel clerk in Philadelphia from the thousands of people

that would come to a Super Bowl at a Final Four. Seriously. Yeah. Think about all the restaurants, you know. Yeah. It's, so I genuinely, it's great for the city. You think about the big events that we've had, you know, the convention, the Pope visit. You know, I know the World Cup's coming next summer.

Like, this is huge for Philly. The Ospreys. If we can fill a stadium, that'd be wonderful. Yeah, that'd be great. All right. Take our second break. Back with more. Zach has more Jeffrey Lurie notes.

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Zach is tripping Why do you want rent to be $2,000 a house? What's disregarding? Well, you want to bring all these events You're going to be raising the rent prices. I mean, what's disregarding? That's not the intention.

But events would stimulate, look, it would stimulate the local economy. That's not like a proven thing. That event stimulates the local economy? What is this regarding? Let me tell you some other things. So here's one thing I can tell you.

The Eagles will not give up a game in Lincoln Financial Field to play in Australia in 2020. Oh, no. So there's this report out that the Eagles and Rams will play there in 2026. Jeffrey Lurie said the Eagles are not giving up a home game. They would be welcome to play there. They're the international, you know, they have the international rights there. But they're not giving up a home game to play against the Rams. They gave up a home game to play against the play in Brazil.

The cycle now resets for like eight, eight years. Although I did see today that Roger Goodell said the goals eventually to have 16 international games. So it's going to be more than it's going to be fewer than eight years. You know, teams are going to have to play there basically every other year, or give up a home game. every other year. So, but it certainly sounds like whatever that report was, maybe doesn't have the Eagles in Rams like lockdown because what? I'm just working through an Australian accident.

I don't say premature, premature. That's not correct. No. So what are your thoughts on that? As soon as the news came out, Meg texted me immediately and was like, I want to go. It's a great country. Yeah. I think, you know, it'd be fun, it'd be exciting.

I got to imagine the logistics around that would be nuts. I know what the logistics were like. The Eagle Senate contingent down for draft weekend this spring. Jordan Milata was down there. They had, you know, marketing folks down there and, you know, people from the entertainment, you know, side of things. And, I mean, just that alone was crazy and trying to get things timed up. And so I imagine trying to get the entire team down there and get them acclimated and then reacclimated coming back would be pretty crazy. Yeah, my guess is the way they would do it is that they would play a team into West Coast.

Okay? Right. So they'd have back-to-back road games. And so you'd play, let's say, the 49ers or the Rams or the Chargers or the Seahawks, whoever it is, right? You play that team and then from there you fly to Australia, you spend a week in Australia, and you come home for a bye week. So basically, you're not halfway there, but you're already, you know. And so you're already in California. Yeah.

And then you go from California to Australia. It's interesting. Is my guess. Okay. It's how logistically they would do that. Yeah. What are you laughing at? Anya sandwich in the chat said,

I'd like to ask a hotel clerk in Australia if they gave me a nice room. It'd feel good to put in power an employee. You know what? I actually have, I have done that. I have done that. I remember the hotel specifically in Australia. I remember my roommate was from Gary, Indiana. Nice guy.

Maybe the dingo, H.L. Gary. No. He went to, is it Lincoln University? I think it is. Nice guy. He was my roommate on that trip. But we checked in the hotel, and I was, you know, hand on the check-in.

And I said, I said, is it a nice room? or, you know, what can you tell me about the room? I think I said that. What can you tell me about the room? And they were very pleasant. They told me exactly what the room was like. It was very nice. Did they have a bed?

Had two beds. A bathroom? Yeah. The Australian bathroom was different. But yeah, they had a bathroom. Flusches the other way. Yeah, goes the other way. Okay, yeah.

I remember remarking that it was different. Okay. So someone asked in the chat. Check dome. Check Australia. Checked cyclone. Someone asked in the chat about if, uh, if Jeffrey commented on the way the Eagles offense was this year as a run-first offense.

I did ask Jeffrey that. And he said that he's never had a problem with running the ball. And he thinks you need to be able to do both. And he said if you run the ball well, he said if you're a good running offense, you should have a good passing offense. If you have a good passing offense, you should have a good running offense. But he said what people, he said people have been criticizing the passing game when they've needed the pass this year. and he referenced Pittsburgh and he referenced Washington,

they were able to pass both those games. I feel like it's like I'm okay with a run game as long as it means that we have a good passing game. Sure. That's what that reads to me. Yeah. I think he knows that passing in general is a more efficient thing. But like if you have the best running game in the league,

you don't have to pass to spite your run game. When he spoke about, um uh jane hurts he said jane hurts has the clutch gene that's that that's how he described jow on it has having the clutch gene we're going to hear a lot of that if he plays a good game on sunday by the way he also has to clutch gene when he plays pool in the locker room you can check that out on all p hely dot com there's another coward like tees it was so as i'm thinking about so so so nick right Okay. Now at Fox.

We, or for Fox Sports One, we used to, we're at the college radio station together. Flex. One summer, he had me listen to, he assigned me to listen to a tease every single day on ESPN radio. He wanted me to listen to Colin Cowherts's teases and Eric Casillius is teases. And he said, because he gave me a list of things I need to work on on my show that summer. He said, I had to work on my teases. So my teasers were too serious or something. or too,

to literal maybe. So I had to work on my thesis. So it was always like, it was always like, when we come back, I'm going to tell you why Jim Beheim reminds me of,

you know, oh, man, I can't believe. Of like June in, I'm so proud of myself for not saying what I wanted to say. Or let's say, or no,

why, why Greg Robinson reminds me of my third grade teacher. It's too right. Yeah, Something like that. That's what he wanted to improve on or that was the good version? No, I don't.

I had to work on like that kind of thing. You know, like it wasn't like when you come back, we're going to be talking about why the Syracuse basketball team is not going to make the end of my tournament. It had to be like it was more like why this Syracuse basketball team reminds me of like when you take your car to the dealership or something like that, you know? Okay. Something like that. Your third grade teacher reference there reminds me that one of the through lines of questions I tried to do tonight, which was just okay, was like who's your Joe Shane, you know, like who's the person in your life who dad did you. And the best answer that we got was from Johnny Wilson, who shouted out his fourth grade teacher, Mrs. Moore.

Who told him. Wow. He was developmentally challenged at a fourth grade level. He was not reading well enough. And he's like, well, I said, read this, Mrs. Moore, S-U-P-E-R-B-O-W-L. Did he appreciate that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. So I love that.

I love that he's been holding that one for this long. That's so good. Four of Mrs. Moore, though, watching our show, you know? Yes. Listen, there's bad teachers out there. That is like a shield-level grudge right there. I love that. Yeah, what else?

Well, again, the rest you're going to have to wait and see But that was the best one. I'm excited for this. Did you ask anyone if they pee sitting up or standing up? No, but someone, a good friend of the show, did text me as we were there to ask you whether you ever poop standing up. Someone asked you to ask me?

Of course not. That's the weirdest thing. Well, you know, if you're not going to do one, maybe you do the other. No, the seats. Okay. First off, the human body. is not the sign standing up, okay? So.

Yeah. It's true that happened. Okay. Who did it? We'll play 20 questions. Shield. No. E.J.

No. You're going to be blown away. Coach Flynn. No. Brendan Quinn. Have you ever played? Yes. fourth guess

that's pretty good BQ's the man awesome writer and reporter the best yeah yeah I mean

you see why how about how about your I don't want to say your first media night on the other side but like you know

how was it because I'll say this like you know Chris McPherson all our friends Chris McPherson he was interviewing Jeffrey Lurie from inside the road.

Right? So he was inside the fence area, right? He wasn't like, you know, at the zoo, you know, he was inside the cage, so to speak. Well, it was cool. It was, look, this is the first time I've gotten to see a lot of people that I worked with for a long time. So that was fun. I went in with the idea. I've never been to an opening night, to a media night, right?

So the previous two times the Eagles were in the Super Bowl and I was an employee of the team. I was still in Philadelphia during this portion of the week. I knew it was going to be a zoo. It was way worse than I thought it was going to be. This is the worst. It shouldn't be this. It was bad.

I had goals going in on questions I was going to ask to certain players and I just didn't get the volume that I was hoping to get. So I had a good conversation with Clint Hurt. We talked about Jalen Carter and his development. So basically what I was going for was the development of college players going into the NFL. So I had a couple good conversations, but nothing that I feel like I'm going to be able to write through.

But the one thing that as Clinton Hurt and I were talking was the stunt that Jalen called a couple weeks ago, he won the playoff game with Nolan Smith. He said, I've been kind of pushing for Jalen to show more confidence to be able to make those kinds of calls in situations like that. So I thought that was a good nugget, you know, from Clint Hurt. A little nuggy nug.

A little nuggy nug. Milton Williams talked about his development and just trying to find that it's a balance of mental and physical, like the technical side of things as well. And Clinton Hurd talked about that at that end of it as well. So it was some good conversations. Yeah, it was good. It was crazy. And I know in the chat, everyone was saying like the broadcast was a nightmare too. So it sounds like, yeah, everybody kind of felt it.

But it was a good night. It was a fun night. Zach, you also have comp picks on here. Oh, yes. So Jeffrey was speaking about how they always plan in advance, okay? And he was talking about the camp. Coming up after this, we're going to find out why Jeffrey Lurie says the Eagles will not be active in this year's free agents. Yeah, so he said like, you know, we know we're going to have more compics in 2026,

which would indicate that they're not, that they're expecting high. High-priced players to leave. Coming up after this, we're going to tell you why the Eagles free agent activity will remind you of an insale. So that they're going to, so I don't know what you're referring to there. So it sounds as if they're expecting high-priced players to leave in 2025. So we've had, we spoke to Les Bowen, who's here, by the way, he's going to be ready for all p.hly.com. He'll come on the show. We spoke about which players they might resign, which players they might not.

It certainly sounds like the Eagles are prepared. As I said the other night, Eagles are prepared to make tough decisions this offseason. I've been hearing that pretty consistently. Like, it's one of those things where I think there's going to be, like, behind the scenes talking point is like, we're not able to keep everybody, number one. And then we're not able to go out and be huge spenders either, number two. So I think because part of that, too, is the compact formula. Right. And I think they recognize that this is going to be a different type of offseason.

Tangentially, there was the news that came out. I believe it was Adam Schaefter that broke it, that Josh Sweat changed agents, switched over to Rosenhaus. So what did you make of that, that could be related? Well, I think last season, the season did not go the way Josh Swet wanted.

Clearly, he came back on a reduced number. So, you know, we were at the Super Bowl last year where I thought Josh Swett would go for like a two, right? And clearly that was not the market. And so I've been hearing the past, month or two that sweat's going to have a big market. And I would imagine he's expecting that by virtue of him changing agents. Yeah, I think that's right.

I'll be interested to see how big the market is. Me too. Because he's kind of cooled off a little bit down the stretch again, so it's two years in a row. Yes. Yeah, I don't know. I don't want to give you like more work, right? I mean, you're already the hardest working person in the company right now. Let's not go quick.

But, well, no, no, joyous works exceedingly hard too. And Chris, everyone. Yeah, look. Look, we're the only four people. Sorry. And Bo. Embo. And Damon.

What the hell? Sorry. And Bo. We're all here right now. Okay? I don't know if, I don't know how much free agency work you've done. But this is a really bad free agency class. So if you're a team like the Arizona Cardinals, you're a team.

You're a team like the Carolina Panthers. You might be more inclined to pay Josh Sweat because there aren't really edge rushers on the market who you're going to pay. That's true. I do think that is also going to be affected a little bit by the fact that the edge group in this draft is pretty strong. So when you look at that, there might be a little bit of effect there.

I want to look at what that whole group looks like. I just, I don't know. That would be a scary bet for me if I were another team especially knowing like the priority of the Eagles place on getting those guys locked up and if the Eagles weren't willing to pay. If I were another team, that would be a little bit wary. Absolutely. Especially knowing what they value.

Yeah. So speaking about Edge Rusher, Jeffrey was speaking about Nolan Smith and said like people were writing them off after year one. We didn't even care about his first year. He's like, we think long term. But he said actually a funny anecdote is he said when the Eagles were on the board at what, pick 31 in in 2023, the Kansas City Chiefs tried trading up. And Howie asked Brett Veach, is this an offensive player or a defensive player that you're going after? And Brett Veach wouldn't answer.

And they found out that they were both interested in the same player. And that player, of course, Eagles took Nolan Smith. The next pick, the Chiefs took. Felix Anandike Uzama from Kansas State who was same position similar type of player Felix is a little stronger but yeah

I was I had I had him great as a backup I would have been a huge like if the if the Eagles had traded down and taken I don't know that they would have taken my guesses they wouldn't have taken Usama that would have been a that was a huge huge swing there in terms of how I viewed the players all right Zach let's move on because I was I was sleeping throughout the whole

oh gosh I actually went back I was getting to you. I was getting to you. I was going to Julia. I was going to Julia. Then Chris and then, yeah, I was getting to you. I was saving the best for last. You didn't get there.

You started laughing before I got there. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, rewind the tape. You were not going to save me. I will rewind the tape. Absolutely not. Not until it came to your attention that you had skipped over me. So, Howie Roseman, I, look, I got like 20 minutes of Howie or 15 minutes of Hallie Roseman in.

I did ask Kyle Roseman, you know, I brought up you and Sheel who had such a good show. And one of the things you guys were talking about is something that you and I. I wanted to do that instead of any real work. Best stuff for my own company. I did not say that. Although I did not appreciate some of the things that were always said about. You were right about me on the bidet thing. I know I was.

Yeah. But there were so many things on the – I took so many notes on the show about things I just disagreed with. about you well just like the way you guys framed things sometimes where I wish I could have had a voice in there to speak up on

weren't you listening when you were driving yes how did you take notes like mental notes yes okay what's the top of mind actually the James Bradbury

conversation I like really pushed back in the car on the James Bradbury thing pushed back in the car yeah on what I don't know like on what basically it was like, hey, CTC, you know.

Well, that's a shield thing. Yeah, but you were playing into it. Like, he just, he just goes works. You said, like, you said, like, he's probably like, I'm trying to, yeah, I was kind of envious to how good you were. He just kind of like, agreed. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, also, Cliff made the same point about Josh Harris that I did. You didn't even push back a cliff at all on that. We're like, you made me see. You're like trying to bring our entire audience against me to the point that I had to apologize the next day. Cliff makes like a very sound point. Cliff's like. I'm not going to do that to Cliff. I was shocked that that was Cliff stance.

Yeah. But you did not push back a clip at all on that. Whereas you was like, I was like rolling over in bed. Like this audience thinks that I just am supporting Josh Harris when I was so, anyways. But here, I. In all sincerity, okay? There's this idea that, like, James Bradbury, he's getting paid, he should just be happy. I think back, I saw this over.

I was disappointed he wasn't there tonight, or I didn't see him. I didn't see him. Yeah, I was hoping to see him too. There was this David Remnick interview with Jerry Seinfeld a few weeks back where, like, Jerry Seinfeld was saying that, like, you know, nothing better. there's nothing better in life than like a skill, right? Then like mastering a skill. And he said, he said like money's nice, it's fine, you know. But he's like, it's really mastering the skill that really matters.

And like there's, you know, there's like this Bruce Springsteen line. It's a nice thought, but it's also something that can only be said by someone who is extremely wealthy. But no, there's like this Bruce Springsteen line. It's actually in Seth Wickersham's book. I believe it's like the front quote in the book. but it's he said like more than rich and more than famous and even more than happy I just want to be great okay and so you think about these concepts like these guys are the best of what they do in the world I actually agree with you about James Bradbury on that front yeah so I don't think that he's having fun yeah I think that he would like to be out there playing exactly I agree with that okay so someone so so so so when I heard that it's like yeah James Bradbury that's that's that's the that's the shield lens of it that's just that's just I know but that's what I'm saying I Yeah, that's where I would.

So you said, I would have liked to be in that conversation to kind of give that perspective. Yeah, that's fine. Okay. All right, thank you. So. What's the deal with liking to do a skill? Have you ever seen? Have you ever met an unhappy blacksmith?

I mean, you can really learn a lot from a. from Jerry Seinfeld's interviews. Like, you know, take away the comedy, like the interviews. He's very insightful about... Cancel culture? No, about, like, finding, like, joy in what other people see as misery, you know? And, like, the pursuit of greatness, for lack of a better term, is, yeah, I would, I would recommend, you know, while I'm listening to his podcast interviews, things like that.

I would love to have them on the show one day. Sure. Yeah, that'd be great if you can hook that up. Sure. Then your free time. You're not working on anything else. Yeah, because I'm not doing anything. I'll spend next week in the office just trying different ways to email just Jerry

Seinfeld.g.m.com. That's it for me. Thank you very much. I can't wait to watch that back later. All right. What did the Howie say? So, yeah, so anyways, thank you. Thank you for getting us back on course.

I asked Talley because he was talking about GMs. He admires in other sports. And he said R.C. Buford's like the standard to him. And he spoke to R.C. Buford last week. And I said, actually, about R.C., graduated. I used the term graduate. R.C. graduated the CEO. Like R.C. Buford is not the GM of this person anymore.

He's the CEO of this person. So I said, do you think you'll get to a point where you're going to want something more than this? Like you're going to want, yeah, some job beyond being a GM. And he said that he loves this. He loves watching. He gave an act that when we spoke to him on Saturday that his wife was like, was like, what are you doing? And he's like, I'm watching the shrine practice and the senior ball practice. He came back from his son's basketball game.

Yeah. He said he loves, like, putting a team together and all that goes into this. And so, no, he said he's not looking for more. And I'm, I've always been, being curious, too, about that with, with Howie. Because, like, Howie's, you know, I, I've been around Howie for 13, 14 years. I've really tried to think about him more than he probably feels comfortable knowing. And so, uh, I've always thought, like, he's, what's next for him, right? Right? And I think, and the way he kind of framed this is like, what's the next for him is the next Super Bowl.

Because he said, I asked him at one point, you know, he's turning 50 in June. I said, what would 34-year-old Hallie Roseman think of, you know, 49-year-old Halle Roseman? And he said that he would like, he said 34-year-old Howard Roseman would be a lot more excited. He said, because he thought you just win a Super Bowl. And then he's like, and then he won his Super Bowl. And he's like, you have to win another Super Bowl. And so it's interesting framing for Howley. And I'm going to interspers that into a Howie store.

Thanks for watching on Fast, by the way. We'll probably have a couple more minutes on all-PH-LY.com if you want to catch that. If I was up for it. Yeah, because, I mean, I've done my work for tonight, so I can't be. I mean, I don't get paid away. Am I ever going to live this down? No, you're in trouble on that one.

I almost think it's similar to, like, you know, when you talk with, like, Doug Peterson about the play-calling aspect of it. And it's like, you know what, like, that is what he loves so much about the job. About, you know, about, like, to move past that, it's like you're giving up the thing that you love most about it. And I feel like with Howie, the team-building aspect of it, that is what gives them the most juice. I can definitely buy him saying that. Yeah, I think that makes sense. Yeah.

Anything else on Howie, Zach? Howie, I was a little, because for Jeffrey, I was right there, right in front of him. When I left Jeffrey at the 35-minute mark, I couldn't get closed. And now Howie was being nice, how he was moving along to get the look so he could get to different questions. But there were a lot of them where I couldn't hear. So I have to listen back to the recording. But those were two that jumped in mind.

Last thing I have here is Jeffrey really gazing up Fangio. Yeah, good point. Thank you, Vaux. He said that. I wrote down some words on here. So that's pretty good. Best host in the city. He is the best host.

I've been on record in my mind. multiple times saying that. That's interesting because you don't equate hard work. Oh, come on. Come on. He said that Vic Fangio is like they're Jim Johnson. And he really credited Nick for the autonomy that he gave the coordinators this year. Like he said stuff.

And then he even said, and Fangio is the guy we really wanted to hire last year. It's like the timing didn't work out. Portia on the side. You know, just keeps, you know, it's like. It is like the. that the potential Super Bowl path could go. Sean Desai, Brian Johnson, Carson Wentz is very funny of, like, you know, guys who Carson's a little bit different, but just like got the dirt shoveled on them on the way out.

Like for reasons, not always they're doing. Yeah. Carson's a little different, but. Yeah. There's no Packer that fits. I guess not. I don't think so. Yeah, I can't think of one.

Or even the coaching staff. In your free time. You'll find it. Yeah. Go ahead, Zach. I'm good. Oh, there was something else on... Oh, I know.

On Vanjo? Yeah, well, it was mainly that part of it, just how he compared him to Jim Johnson and Jim Schwartz, and he spoke about how they wanted him a year ago. Is it really no ex-Eagle? On the Packers? Andre Dillard. Andre Dillard.

That's actually perfect. Okay. Yeah. There you go. Super chat from Brand. Brandon, who says, Zach, who is your Dominican barber? Tight fade, player? Yeah, so he's not Dominican, I believe.

But shout out to Jeff at Fade Factory. Jeff does a great job. Fade Factory? Yeah. Wow. Jeff does a great job. No wonder they got you. It feels like it's like technology for a fade.

He did this one now. Yeah, he did this one. So, yeah, credit to Jeff. I know why, but you are so cryptic about it. Did this one. Yeah, Jeff did a good job. Oh, man. Bo tried on a piece of technology today that he was really a big fan of.

What's that? Do you want to share? The glasses? Oh, those are cool. he was very much into Vinny's I was not that into it Oh you were very into it What kind of glasses?

The glasses The uh The meta Oh he has those Yeah he's good He's had them all tonight Oh You're right

Can anyone have any water Your cigarette? I've always wanted I've always wanted to see those Oh man Vinnie's got them Yeah He's wearing them all night

I've read about them They were at the C. convention like I think two years ago but I've never I've never seen them in the flesh I feel vindicated because Vinnie was like oh Beau would really like these and I was like now Zach would really like him and he was like Bo no I think Bo

would really and Bo put them on he's like oh wow these are really cool and I was like what's going on right now but yeah I mean that's a Zach thing all the way oh yeah they take photos for you video and it was like crazy quality yeah really impressive Yeah, good stuff.

That's awesome. Good job, Vinnie. I'm so pumped Vinnie's here. I am so pumped Vinny's here as part of PHOI and the All City Network. I can't wait to watch what, you know, what, what, what we put together. Shout out to Chris over there. Shout out to Chris over there. Right past Bo.

Yeah. Working hard. How's your room, by the way? What's that? How's your room? Room's good. I didn't ask. I didn't ask.

They did ask if I wanted the river view. And I was like, no, I'm good. Nice. All right. I think we can wrap this bad boy up. We're going to be back two more times tomorrow. 2 o'clock Eastern. And then I think 6 o'clock Eastern is our plan.

Now, tomorrow, Zach, Eagles' availability conflicts with our show schedule. And it's the availability where it's like just nine people. I will tell you exactly who it is tomorrow. of too. So fans, listeners, readers can get prepared for who it is or I'm sorry to hear who's speaking. So it is obviously Nick Siriani at 140. And then after that, so that's 140 Eastern time. Then at 155 to 230 is Jalen Hertz, Lane Johnson, Jordan Milata, Zach Bonn, read Blankenship, Cooper DeGene, Quinion, Mitchell, Josh Sweat and Nolan Smith. Now, in the chat, and then when you watch tomorrow,

please, who do you want to hear from in this group and what do you want to hear about in this group? Because I have some stories that I'm working on, but not specifically to these guys on this list. So tomorrow's the day when I have a chance to talk to more of these guys. You're going to play an impromptu game? Sure. I couldn't get any teammates together tonight.

Maybe we'll do it later on this week. But you want to play a little game of Tabo? Sure. It's been a while. Who's going to start the clock? So just explaining me the rules of the game? It's like taboo. I got to tell you, I can't describe the person,

but I can't say the name or the thing. Okay. Okay. Let's start. Let's get a, I'll do 30 seconds. We'll see who can get the most. I got to get a clock. I'm sad that you couldn't get teammates to play.

I thought we're going to try to do it on Wednesday, Thursday. It was too loud or to? Nobody was standing together. It was too tight. It was terrible. It was never possible. All right, Julia, count me in. 30 seconds.

She's going to add it into the stream. So I'm giving you clues? I'm giving you clues. Oh, okay. And you guys have to guess. Are we going back and forth? We're all working together. Okay.

As we should be. I think I'd be good at this game. Okay. Okay, you ready? Count us in. Best quarterback on the Eagles. Kevin Key. Thank you.

Defensive coordinator. McFangio. Running back. Sequin Barclay. A woman's basketball player from Iowa. Caitlin Clark. Cooper DeGine tackled this running back. Oh, Derek Henry.

Slim Reaper. Devonti Smith. Sack Tom Brady might play in this game. Brennan Graham. Casey's favorite thing. Pikachu. Pokemon. Cowboys pass rusher.

Okay. That was one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Okay, not bad. I've seen this one, so I won't guess on the first one. All here, no, I'll just pick up. I can mix it up, right? Yeah, you can mix it up. Okay, ready?

Three, three, two. I know all of these, so. Oh, true. Yeah. Oh, right. Three, two, one. All right, one of the landmarks here in the city. You got to go visit.

It's a nighttime spot. Bourbon Street. Yep. Commissioner of the NFL. Roger Godot. The GM of the Giants. Joe Shane. ESPN personality, loudmouth.

You don't want to listen to anything he says. This isn't going to be good for. for you. You have a back to me. What's that now? Pass. Yep. Used to be a backup tight end.

No first blocking. Now he's in Miami. Not here anymore. Oh, oh, Jack Stoll. Time. Yep. Who was the ESPN personnel? Stephen A.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. Put that one. Put that one to the bottom. Okay. Okay. Okay.

All right. Ready? Yep. Three, two, one. Women's basketball player from LSU. Oh, pass. A penalty that commonly goes to offensive linemen. Holding.

Yep. Sorry. The number one pick out of USC a year ago. Out of USC a year ago. Quarterback. Oh, Caleb Williams. Sorry. The edge, the edge rusher from Harrisburg on the Dallas Cowboys.

Michael Parsons. the river in Philadelphia Scootle you said you're going to be good at that you said you're going to be good I couldn't pick up the cards part of the game

you should make it virtual would that be easier I should have just designed an app that's why I'm so lazy all I'm doing is writing on note cards I didn't have time to make a virtual app You don't have to make an app.

You can make flashcards online and then literally click a button and the next one comes up. That's so helpful to bring around to players at Medium. Here, take my laptop and play this game. Show it on your phone. The phone's the size of that card. You just click the phone in the next one.

It comes up. That's very easy to do. Okay, you do it. Yeah, I can do that. I can do it. Now I'm on a show. Okay. So busy.

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