PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - Philadelphia Eagles trade deadline special: Will Howie Roseman make a move? | PHLY Eagles Podcast

Episode Date: November 5, 2024

Nothing like a deadline to spur people into action! Given Howie Roseman’s history (Genard Avery, Jay Ajayi, Golden Tate, Kary Vincent Jr., Kevin Byard and more), it’s possible the GM of the 6-2 Eagles will make a move to fortify what he hopes is a Super Bowl-caliber roster. We’re here to pontificate and react for an extra-long edition of the PHLY Eagles show.Plus, Fran Duffy has crunched the film from the Eagles’ 28-23 win over the Jacksonville Jaguars on Sunday. He explains why the defense was even more impressive than we might have thought at first blush, what the offense looked like without A.J. Brown and the decisions Jalen Hurts made in the interests of ball security. Join Fran, Zach Berman and Bo Wulf for all the action. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello, everybody, and welcome to the PHY Eagles podcast on a Tuesday afternoon presented by the good folks at Bet365, whatever the moment. It's never ordinary at Bet365. Use code PHLY. When you sign up, they got us cover. Two hours to go until the NFL trade deadline closes. The Eagles have not yet made a move, but there has been a flurry of activity today. Five moves so far. We'll talk about those. So we're going to dive deep into the tape from the Eagles.

Nail-biting wind over the Jacksonville Jaguars. Plenty to get to on the show today. Gentlemen, Fran, Zach, how you doing? Do great. Got out and voted today. Obviously, everybody that's watching, make sure you go out. He wants to talk politics all this. I think that's an important way to start the show.

You know, go out, whoever you want to vote for you, if you do it, but go out and vote. I don't necessarily agree. Look, that, Zach. I voted this morning. I went to hear the coordinator speak. and this is the highlight of my day now, being with you guys in Julia and speaking about the trade deadline,

the film, and all that's going on with the Eagles. Who do you think the coordinator has voted for? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. I don't think you can tell. I don't know. Actually, I have no idea how that would go.

It's a good question. Yeah, I mean, that could have been the question today, but. I'm sure that would have gone over well. I mean, a bit would have given you an answer. I don't know, actually. He gives them answer to everything. Vic Van Gio did say today, similar to what Nick Siriani said the other night, that the reason why Bryce Huff didn't play was because of,

or didn't play much was because of a wrist injury that flared up before the game. He said they didn't really need him as the game was going on. And that when Bryce Huff is healthy, he'll kind of play his normal role. We really don't know what that normal role is. We'll see if that role is still with the team after today. Also, Vic said he hasn't been told of any deals yet, you know, so we'll see. We start with a super chat from Jason, Zach. He wants to know what time is the ZB election show tonight?

He forgot. No, this is my show today. This is my show today. If you ask Emily, I fell asleep watching West Wing last night. I was binging that again. so kind of put me in the mood, if you will. We'll have that ad later. Yeah.

That's coming up. Getting early. Get ahead of the ad race today. Geez. Emily knows how to pick them. All right. We're going to get into the film, and you have done your deep dive frame, but let's quickly start with the action across the NFL today as we await to see if the Eagles

do something here. The biggest move made inside the division by the Washington commander. looking to fortify their secondary. They trade a 2025, third, fourth, and sixth to the Saints in exchange for Marshawn Latimore and a 2025 fifth round pick. What do you make of it, Fran? I actually, I like to trade for Washington. You gave up a decent amount, but not a ton for a guy that still has the ability to play

as a high-level corner in this league. You know, when I look back at Trayvon Diggs and some of his peaks with the Dallas Cowboys under Dan Quinn, I think structurally he can be used schematically a lot of the same ways as what you see with Latimer where he can be an island corner one-on-one, a ton of man coverage. He's a ball hawking corner. A lot of the things that Dan Quinn will ask his corners to do, I think fits really well for Marshawn Latimore. Now, health has been a concern with him. He's missed multiple games each of the last few seasons. So if he can stay healthy, I really like that fit for Washington. It also allows Benjamin St. Juice to kind of slide to be like that up that next corner.

A friend from Montfayal, Benjamin Center Justa. So I think I like the move for Washington. A team Ned clearly is trying to push their chips in and sees an opportunity here to win the NFC East. And Lathmore, not super old. 28. Yeah. So, yeah, interesting move. And you wonder if it's the kind of thing that Howie feels like he has to respond to in some degree.

Also, obviously, they're giving up a third. They got a third from the Eagles for Johan Dotson. Yeah. And so he was, they had some extra assets to be able to toy with there. But I do like the fit there for Lattimore in the Dan Quinn defense. What does this mean for your boy, Zach? Emmanuel Forbes, she means. Well, I think the writing was on the wall already for Emanuel Forbes.

But look, Eagles, commanders, it's nine days away right now, right? So this is a move that definitely affects the Eagles. And I should also say since we spoke yesterday, the news came out, and I was able to confirm it, that A.J. Brown is day to day. But day to day doesn't necessarily mean he's playing Sunday, so we'll see that. but the reason I bring that up in conjunction with Latimore is it's a quick turnaround to that Thursday night game. So when you talk about Latimore and St. Juice going up against Devante Smith and potentially

AJ Brown, that's going to be a big-time matchup. And Bo mentioned whether this affects Howie. I'm not of the opinion that you need to react to another team making a move, right? You should make a move if you feel your roster needs an upgrade. But it is worth noting the two best teams by record in the NFC, the Lions and the commanders both made notable moves today. That's a good point. There you go.

Let's talk about that lion's move then, trading for Zadiris Smith, a player that we talked about as a potential edge option from the Cleveland Browns. They get Zadiris Smith and a seventh in 2026 in exchange for a fifth this year and a sixth in 26. What do you think of that one, Zach? Yeah, I mean, we spoke about Smith last week, like you said. He's showing more juice this season than Robert Quinn did when the Eagles acquired Quinn. but I feel it. Yeah, I mean, so is Thomas Jefferson.

I view it from a similar perspective of your, you're trading for someone with obviously pedigree, like name recognition here, who has proven he can get to the quarterback. He's proven it for two different NFC North teams, now a third NFC North team. He also proved it for an AFC South team or, well, I'm sorry, two AFC North teams as well.

So he does like the North, huh? Two AFC North teams, three NFC North teams now? in his career. Probably the best edge rusher that's going to be moved. I don't anticipate Miles Garrett or Max Crosby being moved. We'll see if Bryce Hoff has moved. But Zadaria Smith, the Lions needed, and Edge Rusher after losing Aiden Hutchinson,

this has been rumored the Lions in Smith for like three weeks. They finally got it done. It hasn't affected the Lions in the past few weeks, but this is absolutely a move that could help a team that I think is the clear favorite right now in the NFC. It's obviously one that everyone's been talking about for the last couple of weeks as a potential possibility since that Hutchinson injury. And I think when you look at Smith, he definitely fits like ideologically with everything that the Detroit Lions kind of stand for in terms of that toughness and competitiveness. He plays with that edge.

And so I think it makes a lot of sense for a team that is clearly also trying to take that next step and be that upper echelon team, not just in the NFC, but, you know, the favorites potentially to win the Super Bowl. You want to push your chips in. And if that means acquiring an older player, I think that makes sense. Some more super chats from Chase Daniel Plainview. He says, should the Eagles bring in new free agent, rich Skangarello? As a consultant, he could bring fresh play action concepts. Also, he's worked with Vic Fangio. I mean, the Eagles are going to have to find a wedding venue if they're going to bring in Skango

because they got the marriage that run in the past. You love that joke there, huh? It didn't work in 2020. It didn't work where Skangarello went thereafter, including Kentucky, including the Raiders. So I don't anticipate the Eagles bringing in Skangarola. Dean says ZB, your election live stream. Is it for diehards only? There's no election live stream.

Yeah, no, I will be working on a story tonight for diehards while the election coverage is on in the background. Okay. There's no way for people to watch that? You watching? No, there's no way for people to watch that, no. Okay, all right, do that. And then another super jet from Andrew. He says, I don't think it's controversial to ask people to not vote for the convicted felon.

I don't know. Maybe that's just me. Also, go birds. You know what, Andrew? Preach. I'm staying away from now. I'm staying away. No arguments.

Yeah. I mean, I think you could have said a lot of things there. Yep. I think you took it easy, Andrew. Three other trades. A crazy one in the division, the Dallas Cowboys, considering the price of Jahan Dotson, but also. So D'Andre Hopkins and some of these other players, including Zadarious Smith. They're trading a fourth round pick for Jonathan Mingo and a seventh round pick from the Carolina Panthers,

who has done very little since being a second round pick last year. That one shocked me, just because we've seen very little from Jonathan Mingo so far in the NFL. Exactly. Do you like him coming out? I actually didn't love him coming out. I mean, the athletic profile I liked, but he wasn't, like, crazy productive at Ole Miss. I was going to look and see where I had him back last year. He was second team all SEC.

So he wasn't like a standout player. Never had a thousand yard season. Was a four-year player there. So, yeah. I mean, very odd trade it from the Cowboys. But they clearly liked him coming out, right? You know,

that's one of those deals where you rely on the draft grade. You're not necessarily looking at, you're saying it's been a messy situation in Carolina. He's had three different head coaches now. including an interim coach, right? And so you go based on your draft eval. If you evaluated him as a second round pick a year ago, and now you get him for a fourth round pick,

that's their rationalization. It's not to say it was good value, though. He was my wide receiver 17 last year. Really? I gave him a backup grade. I did not see a player that was ready to step in and have that kind of an impact. I thought he was a ways away.

And clearly what we've seen so far is that he's a player that is still a ways away from having that consistent level of impact. Now, he's going to have opportunity here in Dallas, and we'll see if he's able to make up for it. They have had a thing for like the big, like heightweight speed receivers when you look at who they've drafted in recent years. But, yeah, Mingo, that one surprised me with what they gave up for him. Zach, I wonder what you think of this,

because I don't believe that you live your life this way. Somebody says, almost all of us would be convicted felons if we had our lives looked into as much as he had. I don't know if that's the case for Zach Berman. Yeah, I can assure you, I can assure you I am a law-abiding citizen. All right. What kind of life is that guy living? Yeah.

I mean, maybe like, you know, it's just involuntary manslaughter every day on the way on the way home. Like, that's his commute. Yeah, no, I, how life is that? Yeah, no, I promise you, like, maybe there's time when I'm going like, you know, a 74 and a 65 zone, but that's not, that's not a felony. That's, that's, that's, uh, yeah. So that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's,

a, a couple points in your license. Yeah. Yikes. Uh, also, Steelers training for Mike Williams for a fifth round pick and the Bengals adding Khalil Herbert for a seventh round pick. So, uh, nothing, nothing too crazy. Yeah, on those. Do you think we're going to get action from the Eagles?

Well, I just want to say, I like that, uh, Bengals deal. Um, I like a Herbert. Well, also because, uh, it sounds like Zach Moss is going to miss an extended time. Chase Brown. regular season. Yeah, Chase Brown's been playing well. But that's a, that's a team that has a good offense, but they need more than one guy in the running game.

Herbert has shown that he can be productive. A seventh round pick is a very small price to pay, I think, for a young player who can combine with Chase Brown to give you some production there. And for a team with a staff that's kind of back, you know, backs against the wall right now in Cincinnati. All pressures on for them to continue to try and mount wins here as they took a bunch of losses early on in the season.

all right you're ready to talk but the Mike Williams deal I yeah I mean I I actually think for the Steelers they need wide receiver help I mean and it seems fine yeah uh now they're taking on some money there right yep they give a fifth rounder and and take on some money there are other wide receivers who've been moved but the Steelers are a team that has a good record Russell Wilson's been playing well and they need some size out at a wide receiver other than George Pickens. There's a lot of Calvin Austin out there. They put Roman Wilson on the IR, so I like them adding somebody. Do you think we're going to get an Eagles move?

Well, I think Howie actually thinks in a similar vein to what you've expressed, Beau, going back to last year when we did a trade deadline show, which is you teams are paying a premium at the deadline. You can get better value during the offseason. Howie tends to be a value-based shopper. But I do think he's going to be calling around. where would you think it would be? Do you think edge rusher?

Do you think, I still think linebacker depth. They're getting good production from their linebackers. Their backup linebackers are Jeremiah Trotter and Warren Burks, I suppose Van Sumeran as well. If there's an injury to Dean, if there's an injury to Bond, it affects you there. But, you know, because Devin White was supposed to be in that mix, right?

Yeah, but do you think if they really, really felt like they needed that depth, would they have just let Devin White go? They just think that he was Garbonzo beans. That's my guess, yeah. But it's a good point. I still think edge rusher is the biggest need. I think it's the most likely. Yeah.

But it probably would have to be in conjunction with some kind of decision. I would think so. To me, like trading for, you know, a Zadaria Smith type doesn't make sense if Bryce off still on the roster. Yeah. Okay. All right. You have grinded. That sweet, sweet tape.

Ground. Grindle? Grindle. I don't think that's it. Okay. Let's start on the offense. Now, there's a story up on all-P-H-L-Y.com now, Franz Film Review of the offense.

Yep. A game in which the Eagles probably, like, points-wise, underperformed their production, you know, under the hood and maybe didn't get as much out of the level of dominance they had up front. But let's give me your top-down, 10,000-foot takeaway, and then we'll get into the weeds, drive-by-drive. I think you set that up well in terms of, you know, basically the way I led the story off was that this was a,

weird game to go back and watch because it was a title of the scoreboard and obviously it's fourth quarter it's a close game but we're getting ready for the post game show you go back through the box score and you see like the level of dominance and the success that the eagles had through the air was an efficient day for jalen hertz the ball didn't hit the ground all that much Seqwan barclay had explosive plays jalen hertz had explosive plays down the field and then you go back through the film and you're like yeah they were able to move the ball uh to me jalen did not play particularly great especially in the first half. I thought that he bounced back nicely in the second half and we'll get into some of the reasons why. But I think that overall, yeah, the offensive line had their way with Jacksonville

pass protection was once again outstanding. The run blocking was outstanding. Sequin was great. And we saw the big plays down the field. I think that's a winning formula, certainly, for the side of the ball. You have anything to say? No, I, no, I'm interested in this conversation. I felt my phone, my phone vibrate. And I wondered if there was a deal. There was not. such deal? No, it was. We're going to get a Zach, Zach, Zach, Zach type of limit here? No, but actually, you know, Diana, our friend Diana Rossini, you know, so our friend Ben Sollack says two hours left on the deadline, I need a crazy rumor, I need a false trade report, I need an out of nowhere bomb, feed my content. And Diana writes, open my drafts folder. And when I see that, it's like,

God, I wish I could see that drafts folder, right? I want to know what she's hearing. That's an interesting way to go about it, I guess. I mean, that's some interesting reporting tofu getting made but yeah like yeah pre write out the draft she she said that on a point of the first podcast that they did this summer uh with uh with her with her and chase daniel that uh she has all of that set up so then that way if something happens in the middle of the night that she would can then just literally just double check it and hits and hits that's so interesting yeah so that drafts like it would take to me as much time to comb through the drafts as it would just type it out but obviously she's she's the pro okay all right let's take a quick break and then we're

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than we've seen in the past couple weeks. throughout the first quarter, a bunch of different formations, a bunch of different personnel groupings, a lot of motion, some under center stuff. It didn't necessarily stay that way for the whole game, but it seemed very clear that the Eagles were trying to learn something in that first, really first couple of drives. Yeah, I mean, just from those first six plays, you saw five different personnel groupings, and actually, I think it might even have been six different personnel groupings when you change out the receivers in 11 personnel. But yeah, they kept flopping Wilson and Donson. Yeah, Wilson played a lot of

snaps in this game, but very first play. You saw under center. He was their third receiver team, Mike. Johnny Wilson. Yeah, I think so. I think and with the AJ Brown injury, I think getting him up to speed. I think it's going to be really important for this offense. But it's the very first play. You saw Ben Van Sumeran that 21 personnel out on the field. They went under center play action passed down the field to AJ Brown. It was there. It could have been picked. Those was there. Yes, it was a bad ball. Jalen assailed it. He was not picked off by the free safety. They went 12 personnel in the next play. Then you had two straight snaps. of 11 but with two different receiver combinations there in 11 personnel.

Then you had a pony set with two running backs in the backfield, then back to another. Then you had a 13 personnel set on third down. And so you saw that all the different personnel groupings there changing things up. It was pretty evenly split between run and pass. They ran a tackle overplay on that final play. So they were mixing and matching different things. It's funny. You mentioned the motion.

They were a backup. They were at 62% motion in this game. So above average number for the week, that would be right around. middle of the pack for the NFL this season. So that's the second week in a row where we've seen motion really come back into the lives of the Eagles offense. But that final play, that third and two run. This is very interesting.

You have this in the story on all p.hly.com, third and two from the Eagles 48. Yes. And game will get stopped for one yard. Why did that happen? Basically, when they ran motion, they brought the tight end across the formation. And when they did that, the linebackers bumped down. I didn't grab screen grabs for this one, because we've got a lot of place to get to from the screen grab standpoint.

But we got time. Yeah, when they, well, that's true. When they brought the motion, motion man across, the linebackers changed their alignment, and that messed with the blocking assignments for the guys up front along the offensive line. And so you had them being able to attack downhill. Now, the one adjustment that I saw them make,

basically the, all right, the Sequan Barclay's running to the right on that play. Actually, it was Kenny Gainwell. Kenny Gainwell was running to the right on that play. The motion man also coming to the right. So it brought the linebackers that way. Go to the, I think it was the second to last drive, the Devante Smith touchdown drive. Sequin Barclay first play was from the minus 11 yard line,

21 yards shot out of a cannon, gets right downhill. It was inside zone. The motion man went away from the direction of the run. The linebackers were going away the opposite direction, and they ran that way. So a little bit of a tweak there that helped them out. I wanted to ask you guys, Barkley carried the ball three of those previous four plays,

but do you object to gain well being the ball carrier on third and two? I think they have to. They have to give gain well carries, just to try and save. But you wouldn't rather like a first and ten, you know, like a third and two is a money down. Yeah. I mean, I mean, you hope that he can get, he hope he can get two yards there. Yeah.

But what are you laughing at? Money down. But you're laughing at money down? No, it's, it's fine. It's a football guy. Yeah. The football guy term of the money down. Yeah.

Yeah. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. Yeah. Yeah.

But I think would you rather, would you rather it, would you rather if you Shipley? No, I'd rather have to be Barclay. is my point, right? I mean, I would rather, like, on a high leverage play, give the ball to Saquan Berkeley. Now, you should be confident that if Kenny Gainwell is your number two back, if Will Schipley's getting in there,

they can get two yards on a third and two. I get that. I just want, I want Sequant Berkeley carrying the ball on third down. Yeah, but, I mean, you have to, yeah, he can't get the ball every time. I understand that, but I understand what I'm saying. But there's also a give and take of if we have game on the field, maybe they're going to think we're going to run it less,

and maybe that makes it. But I'm saying so if Barclay gets three yards there, put Gainwell on the field for a fresh set of downs. Yeah. Right. And then I thought it was interesting. What did you make of the first touch push of the game, fourth and one?

They line up there after game will get stuffed. And, you know, they get the false start, but they also weren't going to do the tush push on that one. Did you think that they were aware of the fact that the Jags might have a different plan for them? I mean, it certainly seemed that way because they were a couple times, is the one that came back on the false start, and then the other was on the, that happened later on,

where they ran the fake tush push in the middle of the field. So clearly they thought Jackson might have a little bit of a beat on it. I think Jacksonville was trying some tactics. I don't think they're, we've seen other teams do the thing with the linebackers behind the defensive line and trying to push them forward. I think that is a better way to try and attack it than what we've seen with linebackers jumping over the pile

because they end up just jumping over Jalen Hertz. But yeah, I think that, you know, clearly going into, to this one. They were a little bit worried about the effectiveness of the touch push. All right. So then Sydney Brown makes the big play on special teams. Great play. Eagles get the ball. First and 10 on the 20. They

pull out the long-awaited pass to Ben Van Sumer for no gain, and then they throw the touchdown pass to Sequin Barkley. Yes. And we can go, first of all, I will say, I think they're excited about what they can do with Van Sumer in space a little bit. I think there's a little bit, you know, what was the, what was

in the summer? There's some buzz on palpable buzz. Palpable buzz on Ben Sameran. I think there's some excitement there about what they can do with trying to get him the football. Obviously, that one went for no game. He was tackled right away. There was a weird play. I didn't know what they were trying to accomplish with that play. I think they were trying to set up the play action play later. Because that was the action that they ran on the Devante Smith 46 yard. There you go. They had E.J. Jenkins in that role instead of Van Sumer.

And so I think that's what they were trying to set up with that one. But we can go to our first set of screen graphs. And that was the post wheel, the touchdown to Sequin Barkley. And there's an outstanding throw, really good concept here from the Eagles. So, yeah, that would be offense one shot one. So that's the Sequin touchdown. And basically what you got here from the Philadelphia Eagles, from the Jaguars, it looks like it's going to be cover ones.

It looks like it's going to be man coverage. And you can see that they're bringing Jahan Dotson in motion before the snap. And the ironic part about this motion is that Jacksonville, they change up their coverage. Because you can see that you've got the post safety in the middle of the field. Julia, if you go to the next shot, you could see that rather than someone running with Jahan Dotson across the width of the field, they actually take that safety. And so he actually is going to pick up Dotson. Now, usually when this happens, somebody else runs to the post to replace the safety.

Jacksonville didn't do that. So basically what happened was the corner that was lined up over the number one receiver, he just bumped down over the next receiver and the same. safety picked up Sequin Barclay out of the backfield. It was going to be a linebacker. So they actually got a more favorable matchup, Jacksonville, going up against Sequan Barclay. Instead of it being Devin Lloyd in space, it was going to be Darnel Savage, the safety. So you can go to the next one here, Julia. And so now you've got the post draft from Calcutara. He's running out in the middle of the field and you've got that isolated matchup.

Jalen, you could, it could stand a reason. He could say, I don't know if I still like this, but he ends up throwing it. And Julia, you can go to the next. one. It's a great ball. It's an outstanding ball. What's really funny about this is that Sequin just blows right by Savage, really clean, nice release, getting through the contact. Savage immediately is looking for a flag. Asking for a push-off. There was no push-off whatsoever. I also love the fact that Calcutterra's arms. Oh, it's so good. Outstanding. The ball hasn't even starting descending that. He's got, and he does the great one of my favorite moves on a football field is not watching the play behind you, but looking up to the board and watching it.

on the scoreboard. And so he's able to finish. It was a great ball, outstanding catch from Sequin there, and it results in six points, the first points of the first quarter of the season. Sequin said that's his least favorite catch to make. That's a tough cut.

He was talking about the degree of difficulty on that. And is that because you don't see it, like you see it late or the... I mean, the whole idea of trying to look that in over the shoulder. I think the point was made on the broadcast about how hard that was going to be a tough throw for Deeris Johnson on the Nekobi Dean wheel route at the end of the game because running backs aren't used to trying to attack the back shoulder.

To me, like the over-the-shoulder catch is harder for a back just because you're very rarely asked to do that in that scenario. Yeah, heck of a play. All right. Third drive. Eagles are backed up and this is a drive that stalls out. It's a three-and-out thanks to the sack on second down of Jalen Hertz. What happened on the sack?

Yeah. So, you know, basically on this one, you know, this one was a tough one to watch. I don't have the screen grabs on it, but basically they're in man-to-man coverage. and they're running a play that's called Haas, where it's actually, I can remember this was Carson Wentz's first touchdown ever for the Eagles was this play. Jordan Matthews running the slot fade out of the side. So you have two slot fades and you have two hitch routes on the outside.

Jalen starts to one side. He's a little bit late getting over to the other side. Bechtin got beat early on. So Bechton gets beat fast and then Fred Johnson kind of lose. I think they credited Fred Johnson with the sack. But to me, I look at this is Mackay Beckton gave up early pressure. That forced Jayland Hurts off. of his spot he could have had a j on this one yeah i think that if that was the reason i didn't

think that jalen was uh was perry he was a little bit slow kind of getting through getting through the progression on this one but i think the pressure had more to do with it than anything else so uh so yeah that end that ends up being a sack for josh and listen what we will get to uh some of the uh versions to throwing over the middle of the field yep but you know we we suppose that maybe there is something to do with like the height of the offensive lineman and jalen hurts his height but just think about it if if macky beckton of all people is getting being pushed back into your field of vision, I would imagine it makes it tough to see. Yeah.

I, the vision thing is tough. It's interesting because he butted up, right, to, uh, about the third of Devante. And that's, but that's like outside the numbers really far away, you know, to the opposite sideline. I couldn't tell you why what their reluctance is to the middle of the field. I don't know if it's height related or if it's just like, hey, like, I just don't like throwing to that area. Um, but obviously there, there are issues there as well, uh, we'll see in some of the screen

grabs. I also think there's, um, now, now this doesn't speak to. the long time trend of this, but I do know Jay Allen right now is hyper aware of avoiding turnovers. And that's a major talking point from the coaching staff, from him. And so you're more apt to turn the ball over if you throw it in the middle of the field and you throw it to the sideline. Yep. I think that's true. On Bechton, I do feel like we see this, you know, often is probably overstating it, but a good amount, like, you know, he does get pushed back in past pro. is it as easy as saying that right now, Bechton versus Tyler Steen,

Beckton is the better run blocker. Steen is the better pass blocker? Yeah, I think that's the, I think that's a fair way to kind of summarize it. Bechton, I think he just, he just has problems with dropping his anchor. He's so big and so strong that he's still tough to run through. But because he doesn't drop his anchor and plays a little bit too high sometimes, that's where bull rushers can kind of get the best of it. It's similar in ways to what I've said about Fred Johnson and some of the issues that he

has had doing that same thing, dealing with some of those bull rushes. also sometimes Beckton can be late to react to those inside moves. And so teams can kind of get the edge on him that way inside. All right. Next drive for the Eagles is a long one. Yes. A 15 play drive that ends in the Jake Elliott field goal. What are the highlights of this drive for you?

So this was the first play. We see Devante Smith in the backfield. And they're doing a little motion where they're basically going to run an inside zone play to Sequin Barkley on an RPO that picks up seven yards. They ran out of that look. They had four plays with Devante Smith in the back field. backfield. The first three were runs. That was the longest one. And then the fourth time, they ran Devante a little Texas route out of the backfield, nearly picked off. We'll get to it a little bit later in the game. But they ran that four times out of that look. We saw a 20-yarder to A.J. Brown.

Now, that was interesting because it's third and three, and they're running a version of their mesh play, because they're expecting man-to-man coverage. And so they're running mesh. Now, typically in mesh content, it's going to be a short throw. It's going to be one of those shallow crosses. maybe it's something out of the back field. We've covered this a couple weeks. He didn't, Jalen did not look at the mesh stuff. He's looking outside to A.J. Brown, who is running like this deep, kind of like an over and back, like deeper corner around, a longer developing play.

It's third and three. He ends up winning. AJ wins on third and three. But a difficult throw, you know, 18 yards down the field on a corner route when you had that mesh concept going. So they're able to move the chains there. That was certainly, I think that was, yeah, that was the longest play of the drive. Seekwan had an 11-yarder on an instant.

zone play. There was a nice run. But the big one was the second play of the second quarter. That is the, the Sequin backwards hurdle. So we can get into what we saw there. I heard about that play. Yeah, we may have seen pictures of it. There's a outstanding the video. How good is that video? I mean, so good from the sideline view, being able to see all the players. Do you like Blankenships reaction, Goddard's reaction, or Jordan Davis's reaction? Jordan Davis reaction gets me no time. It's very, very funny. But all of them are really good. I like Goddard's too. I mean, black and chips is great. It's awesome.

But like, it's so cool to see like, yeah. That's the, that's the reaction that other freak, like professional athletes have watching Sequin play. Like that's awesome. Yeah, it's like the dunk contest. Right. When the dunk contest is good, like to see the most impressive athletes in the world blown away by something one of them is doing is always very cool. And the difference, of course, is that in the dunk contest, like, it's planned, right? This is, like, the fact that he does that spontaneously.

And, you know, when I watched it back, the thing that jumps out to me, too, it was just a spin move. You're like, that's nice. It was just the cut. You're like, all right, that was a good cut, too. But all three in conjunction, like, the reason why his back was there was from the spin move. That was really impressive. And I, did I say this on our show or on Anthony's show yesterday? But I did get to see that Pet State Iowa clip from his sophomore year.

I put that out on a loyal viewer. listener sent me the clip i put it out on on social nice and i agree with what sayquan said it's not nearly as cool as this one yeah you beat me into the punch because i was planning on doing it monday morning is i'll let me go back i got to try and find this uh but yeah it was uh it was cool to be able to go back and see uh before we get to it zach we do have another trade oh oh okay you see i was looking in franz's eyes i wasn't looking at my social not an eagle's trade not the pittsburgh's making another move adding preston smith the packer edge rusher interesting for uh we know the uh the compensation don't know the compensation yeah there was once the time when

smith and smith that was the edge rushing combination for the packers right and now both are traded on the same day wow yeah well done what a world did you like him coming out i like Preston smith i thought that he would be like a solid number two and he's been probably a little bit better than that like at his peak but he's uh yeah he's a good player coming out of mississippi state not a good name not a good name for an edge rusher like Preston a little preppy there are there are worst names, I think. I think it's preppy. Preston?

Yeah, I think it's a bit of a Melvaney name. A little Melviny, sir. Okay. Okay. Yeah. All right, let's go to, what is this clip? Offensive two hurdle, Julia. By the way, the Eagles see the Steelers coming up.

So in a few weeks. So they'll see Mike Williams and Preston Smith in action if both players are saying. I was going to say, yeah. All right. So this is obviously the big play to Jalen, her, or two, to Sequan Barkley. I wanted to post this first thing Monday morning, so the video is up on all my Twitter feed,

but I think when you look at this one, this was one of the first reps of cover two that the Jaguars played in this game. This now became a very prevalent theme through the first half. So this is one of the first plays of cover two, and you can see at the top of the screen, Jalen, look, he thinks

this is going to be man-to-man coverage because off the motion, you had a linebacker working outside. So this, to me, if you're, Jalen Hertz, you're looking at this and saying this should be man-to-man cover. Just a linebacker outside, really good disguise, really good coaching from Jacksonville's coaching staff here because they were ready to disguise cover two. And so this becomes cover two. Julie, if you can go to the next slide, picture number two here will show they're running that same play, that that

that slot fade. So A.J. Brown is running the slot fade. That's taken away because you've got the high safety there, but it's basically clouding over A. So now, Julie, if you go over to the next slide, the next progression there for Jalen is Devante Smith on the deep crossing route. Zach, to your point, I think because you had two defenders there between the hashes and the numbers, Jalen doesn't want to force that play there. So he said, you know what, I'm going to get through that progression. I'm not going to, if you play it all, if you play the video all the way out, you could see Devante open, but I think he doesn't throw it because he sees that he's got these two

white jerseys there, kind of in the throwing lane. That would have been a very high level of difficulty throw. So Jalen instead gets the ball out to Sequin. You can go to the next one, Julian. This is the last one. But in rhythm. Not in rhythm. That's what I mean.

This way he did a really good job of getting through this progression really, really fast. And you can see like Seekwon catches this ball at the bottom of the screen on the run, plenty of separation with the nearest defender. And if Jalen is late to get there, the backwards hurdle does not happen because he's not, he's not going to be in position, Seekwon, to be able to make that first guy miss and still create momentum until the second guy. So he's able to create those three plays. And so credit to Jalen, he did a really good job of getting through his reads on that

play and getting the ball to Sequin in a fast fashion. Can I ask you, this is a, this might just be anecdotal. Okay. But it feels to me like when, when Seekwon is in the flat, right? It is much more often on to Jalen's left than to Jalen's right, or at least when he throws it to him. Could be right. And why do you think that is?

I don't know. I'm just, maybe, maybe that's just my mind playing tricks. It could just also just be, yeah. confirmation of that. I know that there are. It feels that way. I know there are services that track like Worcester. So it might be something like it is a familiar thing to see

Sequin getting the ball on the left side, sizing up the defender who has to tackle him. And he's figuring out what movie's going to make. Whereas when it's on the right, either he doesn't throw it to him or it's like the touchdown pass or he's going further downfield. Yeah, that's a good point. I don't know. Maybe, maybe it's not.

Anyway, this drive ends. Yes. Third and six from the Jags 16. And this plays into what you've been talking about for whatever reason, the Jags leaning on cover two flummoxed Jalen Hertz and the Eagles offense a little bit Yeah so six plays after the backwards hurdle

The Eagles have a third and six in the red zone Julia this is offensive play three The second quarter sack I want to give some love here Steve Whitaker in the chat requested this one yesterday During the show so I wanted to make sure we gave Steve some love For requesting this play so yeah this was a sack I ended up going for minus nine Don't tell him how to do his job Steve

Well Steve I appreciate I asked for requests. I asked for requests. I have the opposite reaction to this. I appreciate all reviewers and listeners. Thank you so much. Seriously, any suggestions of all ears. All right.

So you got cover two here on this play once again. And one way to attack cover two, you can see that Grant Calcutara is running down the seam. And you have the middle linebacker there between the hash marks. He's running down the shoot with it's Tampa 2 coverage. So that middle linebacker is going to run straight down the middle of the field. And the idea is here that if the middle linebacker does not run with Calcutera, he's running right into the void between two split safeties.

So that should be an easy throw for Jalen. If that middle linebacker does run with Grant Calcutera, well, then you've got Julia, you can go to the next play. You've got Devante Smith kind of settling in over the ball. It was like a little kind of like an option route right over the right underneath Calcutara over the ball to Jalen Hertz. Now, Jalen doesn't throw this ball. He's actually, he goes right from Calcutera. He starts looking to his right to A.J. Brown.

And so his eyes weren't, in my opinion, where they, they kind of. kind of needed to be here on this play. And Julia, you can go to the next play or the next shot. You can see that he starts looking over to the right. And it's just a cloudy picture there. He ends up not throwing it. And by the time he gets his eyes back over to the other side, this ends up being a sack. Where did Tocatero go?

Just disappears. But I think when you look at this play overall, this was just one where, you know, Jalen at this point, he should have gone to the to an underneath route. and it ends up being a result in a sack. That said, I mean, that's not what he's supposed to do, but we talk about like good sacks, bad sacks. If you miss that read on third and down, still in field goal territory, you're like, that's a sack you can take.

Yeah, and that's the thing. And I would put that in the piece is that, you know, you don't want it to, you don't want to force the throw there. There are, there are like levels and layers to it, right? So you don't want to force it. He ends up getting fooled there by the coverage. And I think there was a route to Jahan Dotson there. I didn't love the route from Dotson on that play.

And so by the time he gets his eyes back to Dotson, Dotson doesn't quite get the separation. So that's when Jalen starts to run around and he ends up taking the sack. The sack didn't, it didn't kill them on that play. They were able to still on that drive. They were still able to get three points. But that's what, you know, ultimately,

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I never, I don't think we ever said this is an election show. This is a show on election day. Yeah. Did you, did you vote this morning? Of course, 7 a.m. I was there with my wife. Nice. Yeah, I saw in the chat. Someone said, where's your sticker?

I gave them a sticker to my kids. Yeah. Yeah, they got one and they got one. Yeah. So, so yeah. Went this morning as well. They actually let me vote five times. I hope not.

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All three of us had no issues, thankfully, getting in and out. I did see, like, driving in, there were some of those voting places where, like, lines, like, out the door, like, around the corner. So, credits all the people that are out there, like, waiting in long lines to make sure that they're vote counts. And the election workers themselves. Yes, no question. Claire says, speaking of requests, ZB, the sickos want to know what time tomorrow your morning after, I'm sorry, election pod will be. can't wait to hear your analysis. Honestly, I appreciate that, Claire.

There's no shortage of election coverage. You're not going to get it from me on this show. I will give you all the Eagles insight that you could possibly want, but I am going to steer clear of election coverage. So does that mean that Shea, who is asking a super chat about doing an election swooper? Does that mean you're going to turn him down? I think we're a little late for that, Shea. Oh, we got 70 minutes.

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Eagles fifth drive. This is a five and out. They get the first down on the pass to Cockatara. That is nicely timed by Jalen Hertz. But then after the Eagles got the ball by stopping the Jags on fourth down, they fail on fourth down on a fourth and three pass to A.J. Brown that looked like either late deciding from Jalen Hertz or not exactly the best ball placement. Yes.

Let's go first, Julia, to the offensive. play four that's the third and six uh and we'll get that's the third and six which leads into the the fourth and three um for a j brown so uh basically the yes you you made the point that he was able to find grand coqueterre underneath that was against cover two off play action they're rolling to the left uh nice job by jalen going to the check down there the check down was exactly where the ball needed to go based off the coverage now a couple plays later you get to third and six um remember in the last play you had grant cocatara working down the seam and i said that's the the best way it's like or what i shouldn't say the best way that is a good way to attack cover two so you can see here

devante smith bottom of the screen he's coming in motion and julia if we go to shot number two you could see that devante releases up the seam and he is working down the field it looks like it's going to be the same kind of thing where he's going to run right down the shoot at that middle linebacker but what does devante do uh go to the next shot here julia he actually puts it puts the afterburners on uh i guess he throws the brakes on it the afterburners would mean that he's taking off uh throws the brakes on and he's running a basically a stop route in the middle of the field. And that's a good way to try to challenge that middle linebacker because, Julie, if you go to the next one, they've got some underneath routes to hold those two other underneath defenders.

And so basically the Cs should part and you should have Devante Smith right in the middle of the field, right between the numbers. And if you go to the next shot, you can see there's Devante Smith. I didn't circle him, but you've got him right between the hashes there. He is open. There's Jalen Hertz, ready to deliver this football. there's a little bit of pressure off his left-hand side, but this is where the ball is supposed to go against this coverage with this call.

Like that's the primary read, Devante Smith, middle of the field, and he decides that he is not going to throw this football. And that's, he ends up rolling to his left. He finds Calcutera and Calcutera, I believe, ends up going for three yards. But the ball was there on third and long to go to Devante Smith.

And so that brings up fourth and three. And Julia, while you get that one queued up, that's the play five there, the fourth and three. To me, this is a good example of a few weeks ago as we were talking some of the issues with Jalen Hertzbo, you asked like, are there throws available to him in the middle of the field that he's just turning down? This was the first game where I felt, yeah, there were a handful that were the ball, the throw is there to be made and he's he's just reluctant to hit it. I feel like in this game, you saw so many examples. And this one as I'm looking at it on your screen.

I mean, it doesn't, the vision is not super impeded there. No. Like that that one should be there. Yeah. I mean, yeah, he's got, again, Fred Johnson's kind of getting bulls. Bull rushed in towards his lap on the left side, but the ball should have been out by this point. Like this, if you,

they're not by what we're seeing here, but by that last shot that we saw. Now that brings up fourth and three. And you can go and you can have the conversation of whether or not they should have gone for it here. You know, should they have taken the points and kick the field goal, but they end up that they're saying they're going to go for it.

I think they're expecting cover two. And so Jalen is starting, he's looking to his right side. And you have two outbreaking routes there. If it's a Tampa 2 look, you're basically playing off that Tampa 2 corner. and it's a high-low concept where you've got one high route, one route underneath. Jalen starts there, but by the time he realizes that it's not cover two and it's actually cover one,

all right, well, now I've got to work. Julia, you can go to the next one to my crossing route to A.J. Brown. It's man-to-man coverage, my number one receiver, running away from a corner into green grass. That should be the throw. You can see Jalen is looking at A.J. at this point, but the ball comes out extremely late. We can go to the next shot here. You can see that the ball is just now leaving Jalen's hands as A.J. is crossing that left hash mark. And also look at Jalen's lower body.

I think he would point to this and say that his body, his mechanics were not great here, doesn't step into the throw. He's kind of falling away from it. And because of that, doesn't have a ton of mustard on the football. He kind of throws a little bit of a touch pass leading A.J. Brown into green grass. But because there wasn't a ton of velocity on the throw, that allows the corner to undercut it. And it becomes an incomplete, incomplete pass. If I can interrupt real quick, the trade compensation is out for Preston Smith. Okay.

According to Matt Schneidman from the athletic, it's a 2025-7th. Would you have given up a set? Well, the Eagles don't have a seventh. They only have three fits. I wouldn't have given up a fifth. No, but would you, let's say it was a 20-20. Yeah. Would you have given up that price for a veteran pass rusher?

Or are you of the opinion that if you're going to give anyone more snaps, give the jail ton or something like that? Yeah, I mean, to, to me, like they would have to give up one of the other vets on the team in order to bring on another vet, unless it was a mildest. Garrett, Max Crosby type of player. But does that tell you that the Eagles are probably not in that market then? Because if they're not willing to do that, then. Yeah, that's a low, or maybe they just didn't have a good evaluation on Preston, on, on Preston Smith.

But yeah, I mean, it shows you what the rate is for a guy like that, for a veteran who's not as productive as Zadarius Smith. I think it's also notable that Green Bay is a team that's very much in the hunt. Yeah. The bears are falling off. they need all the horses they can get and it's not like their pass rush is killing it right now so the fact that they're moving on from Smith

I think is a little bit of a red flag too that's a good point all right next drive for the Eagles and this is a good reminder that even though like you know Lane Johnson says we could have scored 40 points and it felt like the Eagles were blowing this game away like they did struggle a little bit on offense

in this first half and this is another drive their next drive another drive hurt by a sack on third down and they got to punt it away issues against cover two again I think what's what was interesting about this is that the, the Jaguars did not run a ton of cover two in the first quarter. And the Eagles were starting to kind of gain some momentum. They had that drive where Jalen had a couple completions early.

Then they had the first quarter break happens. And that's where you see the sea change a little bit with Jacksonville. And they ran gradually more cover two as the quarter went on. When you get to this drive, there were two dropbacks for Jan on this drive, both of them were cover two. The next drive, the last one of the second quarter, they ran cover two on five straight pull, five straight dropbacks. for Jaylen on that place. So they just basically got into this part of the game. And they're like, we're just going to spam cover two.

And the big thing, as we've seen from these shots, with cover two with the middle linebacker dropping out in that Tampa look, the middle of the field is open. So basically Doug and Ryan Nielsen were like, yeah, like, go ahead, Jaylor, like take the middle of the field if you want it. And he was just reluctant to do it. Now you go to this play. And what I was most interested to coming into this,

they talked on the broadcast about, oh, you know, the Jaguars are playing a lot of cover two, but they weren't showing us. So we couldn't quite see it. What are the Eagles? What are the coaches doing? Are they giving him anything to attack cover two? Or is it, are they just kind of running play?

I thought that they had really good answers against cover two. And this one's a great example. Julia, this is going to be play six. Rap. It's only two shots here. But rap is a great way to attack cover two. Attack the underneath zone coverage defenders in that situation. Because basically when you have cover two, that middle linebacker is number 23 there.

I have the arrow pointing up to that side. the middle linebacker is always going to open up to the passing strength to where if it's a if you have three receivers to one side that's the way he's always going to open up his hips and so if you were going to not two by two is it just whichever one they think is the better typically he'll play off the back and so if the back is if the back is a shotgun to the right then he'll open to the right go to the left if he's under center then he might then he can pick his side sometimes he might open to the wide side of the field otherwise it might be matchup base but because there's three receivers to the right hand side he opens up to that side even though at the bottom of the screen you you've got Devante Smith and AJ Brown. So the middle linebacker is looking the opposite way. And so you can throw basically like behind his head, behind his ear and go that way. Now the Eagles are running what is called a rap concept. And Julia, you can go to the next one here where basically Devante Smith's in the slot. He runs a little stop route in the slot.

And you've got AJ Brown wrapping around him right into that blind spot for the middle linebacker. Jalen Hertz pulls the trigger there and it's a first down. He hits AJ Brown in stride, middle of the field. Nice completion. I think it was 16 yards to 8. AJ Brown. This is the one he gets hurt. This is the one he gets hurt, unfortunately. But, but yeah, that was a good answer against cover two. Jalen takes advantage and it turns into a chunk gain. So that's, that brings them into third and six. Yeah, I believe it was a third and six on the next play. Yeah. So this is at the two minute warning and it results in a sack.

And I think this is good, you know, for the, we've always got, you know, half the people saying we're too hard on jailing, half the people saying we're not hard enough on Jalen. This is like, you know, we're talking about. about the throws that he's turned down. But he did also. He was able to make this throw over the middle of the field. He's not going to be perfect. Yep. And this was something that he probably wasn't expecting to see. At some point, he sort of learns it a little bit.

And then weirdly, we don't see a lot of cover two in the second half. It was like kind of weird, honestly, like mind blowing. Like if we were a Jacksonville Jaguar show, like I would be sitting here like saying like, why didn't they run more cover two in the second half? They ran it 14 times in the game, 13 times in the first half. Clearly they thought it was working because they kept spamming it over. over and over and over again. My hunch is that they're like, all, they're going to try and come out and run the ball in the second half and we can't be playing with two high safeties consistently.

That's the only thing I could think of. But yeah, I mean, they clearly had a lot of success with it. And they did it here again on the third and six. Julia, this is play number seven. It's the third down sack for against Jalen Hertz. And this is the one where we see Grant Calcutera come in motion before the snap of the ball. If you're Jalen Hertz, this is a single high coverage all day. It looks like it's going to be cover one. It's a great look there for the offense. You say, all right, like this looks like they're going to kind of go into what they typically do. But what do they do at the start? Just before the snap of the ball, you can go to the next shot, Julia. They spin out of it and they go to cover two. And so it's a really well-disguised play. You basically, this is a one-man concept essentially to attack cover two.

You've got these two underneath routes that I circled, one from Jahan Dotson, kind of running a shallow cross. You have the running back leaking out of the backfield. Their goal is to basically take the eyes of any underneath defender. At the top of the screen, you've got AJ Brown, and you can see that he's running towards the sideline. That is a mandatory outside release for AJ Brown, because if he runs inside, he brings the corner towards Devante Smith, who's that slot receiver there in the middle of the field. Julia, if you go to the next shot, you'll see that Devante Smith is open there, right between the outside corner and that underneath defender, that's where the ball should go. This is not, there's not a lot of progression reads here for Jalen Hertz. This is basically almost a one-man

concept make this throw in rhythm to attack the underneath zone coverage devante's open there he decides not to throw it and zach you made the point earlier that jalen is you know maybe it's like a risk averse thing that's trying to avoid these turnovers this is a little bit of a risky throw because you've got that defender basically right to devante's right so you can say like okay that's why he didn't throw because if he jumps it that could be a pick six but if jalen makes this throw in rhythm in theory this should be a completion for jalen and ends up being a sack let me ask you this though because you're you're speaking about the jaylin Jaguar is making that change.

If you're Ryan Nielsen, I'm Doug Peterson, I'm talking to you at half time, and I understand adjustments are made beyond halftime, but we're talking at halftime at half time. It's 16-0 at that point. Jalen Hertz is 13 of 16. Sequin Barclays carried the ball 13 times for 61 yards, that the average is built up by that 19-yard run just before half. What are you, are you making a change? Are you going more man there, or are you saying let's stick and cover two?

and we're okay with Sequin running ball. I think that Doug probably, honestly, like the conversation probably was he knows what the ideology is of this organization and of this team. It's interesting. You want to be able to, you know, we're going to throw to score early and then try and run to win. He probably comes out of the saying, look, they're going to try and run against us. If we stay at two high safeties, it's going to be Seiquan all day in the second half. That's a good point.

That would be my only thought would be that Doug kind of understood like that was going to be the thought process for the Eagles coming into the third quarter. There you go. We are now just one hour. away from the deadline we've made it through I don't think it's I don't think it's gonna happen yeah I don't think so either are you a deadline guy like in life do you wait until

until the last minute for things a hundred yeah so if you were a GM this is the time you'd be picking up the phone I think that would be a little bit different no but but yeah I mean in in general in my life yeah let's how that's how you get things moving

yeah absolutely do you pay your bills like right at the last day do you well most of my bills are set automatically Okay. Yeah. Okay. What else? I mean, I know with assignments you wait until the last minute.

Yeah. No, I, yeah. Listen, I think my advice to aspiring journalists, be a really good procrastinator because then you have to practice writing on deadline. Okay. Yeah. So I can. Okay.

There's different schools of all. of thought too right um i'm trying to think what else in in life you would wait for a deadline like how about getting ready do you wait until the last minute to get ready for something like packing for a trip yeah yes okay uh getting like uh you know getting dressed you have to be somewhere at six you know you have to change and you're going out to dinner right are you getting the shower at 530 or are you uh i mean i'm probably i've already showered that day but you don't shower before you go out again. Not if I shower it already.

I mean, really? If I haven't, if I haven't had a reason to sweat. Yeah. Interesting. Okay. I'm completely different here.

So if you shower once in the morning, if you, let's say you don't eat in the house. It depends on the event. Yeah, I'm always showing before I go to dinner. Always. At home?

Yeah, absolutely. What if you're eating at home? Wait, what? No, no, no. If I'm going out to, if you're going out to dinner.

That's I'm saying. So I, I shower in the morning. Right? You know, when I wake up. Yeah. Right?

no matter what I even if I didn't do it like even if I didn't have a workout that day. No matter what. No matter what I'm showering before I go out to dinner. Now if I'm eating at home for dinner, I'm not showering, but always I will always shower before going out to dinner. Interesting.

Yeah. Is this abnormal? I'm not. I think if it's if I feel if I feel unclean or yeah or if there's extra time. No, I always want to feel fresh. I mean, time doesn't always allow for there to be room for for an extra shower. Oh, yeah, no, it's always, yeah, an hour before I go out, I'll shower, get rest, and yeah. I've had a lot of conversations with friends in the past that are like, they will shower in the morning to get the day going,

but then they must shower before getting into bed at night because they don't want to bring the germs of the day into into bed with them. But I can't wrap my head. I typically shower at night as well, too. Yeah. So we're talking like three showers. Three shower day? When you haven't sweat at all. No, no, no.

If I'm going out, that, no. I'll tip like, I'll shower tonight. night before I go to bed. So I shower this morning. So minimum two showers. So you're always two showers. I've showered twice already today. What was the other one today? I went to the gym. Okay.

No, that's reasonable. So I shower when I woke up to wake up. That was the... Did you go right to the gym? After the kids went. Yeah. So you voted. Voted. Yeah, 915 went to a gym class this morning. And then rushed back. showered when to coordinators. Yeah.

So, but then I'll shower before I go to bed tonight. So you're averaging like two and a half showers a day. Well, Tuesdays and Thursdays is when I go to the gym class. And you would never go to gym class without having showered already? No, no, no, yeah. Knowing that you're going to shower after? No, because then you're, yeah, no, I shower to get up to get ready, to be fresh when I go out, yeah.

The amount of, like, how much do you pay in water a month? not to mention what you spend on the Hawaiian bottled water no the bottle of water I always gets just whatever the deal is at 7-11 or a Wawa typically Wawa but sometimes 7-11 plug no yeah no free no free advertising here no because they have the one right by Novacare yeah I'm just saying yeah okay sorry Julia having known Zach as long as you have what's your

take care I mean because you're laughing up a store It doesn't surprise me. I'm just not. It's just, it's kind of my bother. I would never, yeah. Three showers a day is so extreme. Well, I don't shower three showers a day regularly. But minimum two, it sounds like.

The minimum two is still. It does sound like every Tuesday and Thursday, you're doing three a day. Yeah, every Tuesday, Thursday, I'm doing three. What about the weekends? Typically two? Yeah. If you go out to like a dinner on a Saturday night.

Yeah, I won't shower when I get home from that. You won't shower after dinner. Yeah. But I'll. I actually don't. I actually don't. I actually don't, I don't really have an issue with you always showering before you go out to dinner, except for the, like, the draconian, like, you absolutely have to of it. Yeah.

But it feels, it feels a little pathological. Okay. Guilty's charged. Claire thinks it's normal behavior. I don't think that this is the only one in the chat. All right. It's fine. I don't think it's that bad.

Yeah. I mean, I feel good after a shower. You feel, you feel fresh. I don't think that that's crazy. I always shower when to get off an airplane. It's just that sometimes, oh, yeah. Definitely. We get to the hotel.

You got a shot. Absolutely. Well, wait. I have another question. I have a follow-up. What is the towel? How often do you change out towels? Yeah.

I believe we had this conversation with Marissa back in the day. Yeah, probably like every two, three days. But isn't your towel damp? It has to be. You hang it up. Yeah, but when you're showering and then you go to gym class. 45 minutes later you shower. Then you got a damp towel for sure.

No, it's, if I shower at, so if I go to the 715 class, okay, then I'm showering at six. Yeah. And then I'm showering again like nine, 839. Yeah. Yeah. No, the showers. The showers.

Your towel is completely dry in two and a half, three hours? Well, it's, it's good enough to be sufficient to drive me off. Yeah. That's the worst part. I mean, you got a damp towel situation. That's not. That's not hot. I'm not leaving the towel on the floor.

When you hang up a towel, it dries all, you know. Yeah, not that quickly. Not completely. You got magic towels? I guess it absorbs water quickly. Yeah. Unless you do a heavy drip dry situation. Yeah, I do.

Yeah, I am. Like when you go to the sink, like, Emily jokes, like there's a puddle outside. Okay. Now it's starting to make sense now. Wait a second. Wait, what is going on? Why is there a puddle?

Why is there a puddle? Because I get out of the shower to dry. Like, I'm, I'll, I will walk, yeah, I will be drying off as going to the sink. That seems rude. Sorry. Okay. Give yourself, give yourself 20 seconds when the shower's over.

That's what she tells me, but it's, who's got that kind of time? Seriously, it's about efficiency at that point, yeah. Well, that's my other question then, from an efficiency standpoint, are these like the most utilitarian showers? known to men or are these in and out? I'll listen on a podcast sometimes or yeah. So, yeah, I'll try to be, sometimes I'll have my phone like, like, get up, you know, if the shower's here and then there's spot. Yeah, I'll put the phone over there and I'll like, so the, wait, what do you mean over there? Like there's a part in the shower that doesn't get in the shower.

Okay. You got a cavernous shower. No, it's not that it's cavernous, but there's a spot, you know, palatial. No, the ledge where you put the shampoo and the soap. Yeah. That's not getting wet, is it for you? I wouldn't put my phone there. That's where I put my phone there.

Yeah. And then I'll. And they're using wet fingers on that bad boy? Yeah. But what if news happens when you're in the shower? God forbid. Life goes on. Or sometimes like if you get a text and you got to answer it, I'll jump out of the shower to respond to the

text and then get back in yeah yeah that that that is a wild behavior yeah all right let's let's proceed with the film we did this by me asking you about deadlines and then it got into shower behavior well i feel like you need to bring screen grabs for next week definitely not a couple superchats from uh sumach who says sorry he joined late zbi when is the election pot tonight sickos have their popcorn ready. Is this like a bit that people are doing? I didn't send them all along this road. I will not be speaking about the election on the show, but I... In any capacity?

Consuming all the coverage. No, I will not. I'm hoping... I think people come here as a... As I said, there's no shortage of election coverage or election conversation. And you can come here to hear about the Eagles and the trade deadline and apparently shower etiquette as well. What is my favorite aspect of election coverage? is the, like, is John King, right, from CNN with the Telestrator.

He, the Telestrator, though his work on the Telestrator, I think is like A-plus, like Dan Orlowski level quality in terms of the way he operates a Telestrade. I like Kornacki. Okay. Yeah. Kaki-Kornacki. Yeah, he does a good job. Honestly, the thing that I always laugh at about.

There's no point about election coverage that I enjoy. Well, okay. The thing that I always find funny is like, it's like, is, you know, the like 12-person desk. Yeah, I mean, well, that's it's like, people get like 30 seconds in, you know, you can't have meaningful conversation in, in that 30 seconds. Sounds like sports coverage. Obviously, yeah. We also have a super chat from Andrew who says, FYI, Zebram, fresh water is a finite resource. Well, the water is going in the drain, you know, it's not like, you know, isn't this what happens?

The water goes in the drain goes into your system and then it's, it's eventually reused. So you know you do? What is you, you have to figure out a way to capture that water. and then you can use it for your unnamed fish. Let's not go there. Oh, why? Oh, no. No, let's not go there.

No, we got it. No, no. What's going on? No. I don't want pito on my case. What happened? I did what Fran told me to do. I'm not blaming Fran.

Fran was amazing. Bless on your hands, Fran. Yeah. No, no, what happened? I bought the solution. Okay? Okay. I followed.

You did too much of it. To the specification, exactly as it was said, change the water, put the drips in, measured it completely. Okay? 24 hours later, boom. Fully up? Fully up. Like, was I... Do you even have a name?

No. I mean, what, like, changing the water, I screwed up, changing the water. Did it, was it the temperature? Was it the composition? Yeah, did you not? Did you wait? I think I changed too much water. Did you wait?

How long did you wait before? Oh, the exact amount of time. You waited like 30 minutes or whatever? Yeah, exactly what it said on the back label. Cornorian D-Mov. I'd take it back. That guy was right. No.

Your felony. This is your felony. This is not a felony. I was trying to give them a good place to live. Yeah. Was it Reeds or Sloans or both? Reeds. Reeds.

Yeah. Are we already in the market for a replacement? Yeah, yeah, I got to get back there. Gotta go back. We'll be all right. You're going to a different store. We'll be all right. You're back. You're back again. Same one. But I mean, the changing of the, you know, I got to say, the dirty water, they, they look great and dirty water.

Once I changed the fresh water, they, that's when, once I clean that thing out and I, I vacuumed the whole thing. You know, I was vacuuming. Yeah, you don't need to do that. I don't think you need to do. Yeah, I got the whole device and I was pumping that thing. You know, you pump the water out. you clean the waste and all that and yeah anyways i i didn't want to get into it in the show but yeah sorry sorry for your loss yeah i feel bad i mean i was trying my best yikes oh all right let's get on the turn yeah uh last drive yeah nice uh nice change that of

the first half they get the uh the cowards draw touchdown anything else stand out to there um Yeah, I mean, that one, sorry, I'm like catching up here. All right. So, yeah, this was actually one of the tougher ones. So, Julia, if you can pull up offensive clip eight, this was another example of just attacking cover two. The Eagles get into the red zone here, and they call four verts. And with four verticals, it sounds, it's exactly how it sounds.

You got four vertical routes. And essentially, you're targeting that middle linebacker in the middle of the field, as you see there with the circle. And you've got two routes in the middle of the field, to cross down the two seams. And here on this play, that is Grant Calcutara on the left and Devante Smith on the right. Basically, as soon as they clear that underneath level of the coverage, they're going to work inside the safeties.

And if you go to the next shot, Julia, you'll see both guys are going to work in there. And basically, Jalen Hertz just have to pick a side. And if the middle linebackers open to the left, you throw to the right. If he opens up to the right, you throw to the left. Here he opens up to Devante Smith. and so he should have Grant Calcutera opening down the seam here. And Julie, you can go to the next shot. You can see there's Calcutera.

That's where he's going to throw that. And you could see that this is a clean pocket for Jalen Hertz. This is where the ball should be thrown. It should be lofted up over the linebacker, under the safety. And actually, it doesn't even need to be that much of a touch throw because there's no fear of that middle linebacker picking this off. So he should be leading him right down the seam here for completion. And honestly, probably a touchdown.

He ends up taking off here, Jalen, and he runs for. he runs for seven yards there on the scramble. But this was a great example of when Jamie and I went to the halftime show on Sunday, and we were talking about, oh, like, Jaylon's been running around a little bit, but they didn't show the replays. I kind of wanted to see what those looked like. That play was one that came to mind because that was one where you could sell, you could tell that there was something there that he was thinking about throwing

and he didn't throw it. Did they take it away or was it just that Jalen turned it down? That one he turned down and that was a touchdown that, look, They made up for it later because the Sequan Barclay ends up running into the end zone, but that's one that I think he would like to have back. All right. There you go. There you go.

Did you see any big picture adjustments from the Eagles offense in the second half? I mean, I think the big adjustment was more like, hey, we're going to, we're going to go lean into the run game. The play action game certainly was a big part of it. I mean, they came out in the opening possession, and that's where you see the big play, downfield off play action to Jahan Dotson on the deep corner route. That was a really good ball from Jaylon, a great finish. John Dotson playing through contact. But I think that they said, look, if they're going to play a lot of cover two,

we're going to respond in kind by running the football. And so I think that was kind of the adjustment there. And I will say, like Jalen, like did not have a good second quarter. I thought he was much better as you got through the majority of the second half. There you go. You're okay? Yeah, I'm good. I'm sorry about that.

You're worried. No, no. I actually have a trade question for you guys too. I don't mean, you know, don't want. No, come on. It's not a real word here. I see, I can. keep saying my friend about this reporter this guy's actually my well they're all my friends but

mike airfollow they're all your friends well my i mean people i've mentioned ian russini matt schneidman nat he tice i i've mentioned these people they're i'm friendly with them um friendly what friendly okay yeah sorry both you just saying yeah you have a very rigid definition of friendship apparently mike garfall is is someone who i hold near and dear to my heart um he says barring guest of yours what's that wedding guest of yours yes yes Yes, yes, wedding guest to mine. Barring a significant pivot by 4 p.m. Eastern, the Giants will retain linebacker Aziz O'Jollari. They've made it clear they weren't going to give him away and held firm.

O'Jolari, six-ax, too short of his career high, now heads to the home stretch of his contract toward free agency. Unless this is the Giants, like putting this out for leverage, this to me is bad business. Okay? The Giants, I can't imagine they're going to keep Aziz O'Jolari. Unless they move on from Kavon Tibado this offseason. Aziz Ojolari is going to be a $50 million, $60 million edge rusher. You're not going to pay him that to be your third edge rusher. They already paid Brian Burns, big bunny.

They have an organizational investment in Capeont-Tibodeau. I understand you can have more than two edge rushers. You probably don't want, like, you're probably not going to pay all these guys, is my guess. I imagine Oja Lari's probably can go somewhere where he is similar to Bryce Hoff, like a top guy. What are the Giants doing? They did this last year with Saquan Barkley and Xavier McKinney. This whole, you know, we have a price.

No, like, you have to be dynamic here. Yes. The market talks to you. At some point, I understand, at some point, you have to acknowledge, okay, it's a buyer's market here, not a seller's market, if that's the case. You can't hold firm to your price when you have this trade deadline and then let him leave. Well, we got something. Got another trade. Ooh.

The Rams are trading two-time Pro Bowl cornerback, Traedavius White. Okay. To the Baltimore Ravens. There you go. They've been talking about that. Yeah. McVeigh had been asked about it a couple times. Yeah, a 2027, seven-round pick to the Ravens for a 20-26.

He has been, he seems like a lot. Yeah, caught up to him. Yeah, I don't get what the... Two Fran Duffy draft favorites, Tradavis White and Ozi's OJolari. That's true. I was a big Tradavis white guy when he was coming out of LSU, and he turned into a... I mean, he was the best corner, I believe, of that class.

It was a really good player. But injuries have certainly taken their toll. And you loved Oja Lari. I did like Ojolari. Ojolari is, like, the body type that I really like for the pass rushers. It's similar to, like, Nolan Smith, where it's the short but long, long arms. You know, just the, it's, I just kind of have a thing for guys with,

that come off the edge with that body type. What's the most you would give up for Aziz O'Sizhalari? You're presuming it's a one-year rental, though, right? Yes, right. So, I mean, if the, if the Eagles had an opening, like, where it was like, it would have made sense for them to make that deal. If I were a team looking for a starting rusher, I don't know, man, because this, this, he's been banged up throughout his career.

this was this year he's been healthy his first year he was healthy he had injury questions coming out and the years in between he's been really banged up that's why they felt like they needed to trade big capital to go get Brian Burns this year and spend a first round pick on Thibodeau a couple years ago three or four right yeah I don't think you could even give a three yeah that's why I don't think you can even give a three yeah I don't know unless you know that you're going to get a deal done with him um that he's been he's been good and this is coming for someone who liked them I don't think it could be more than that but I think you're right Zach about about yes the giants from a big picture perspective they're throwing value away. My guess is, though, is that they're looking at it as we need as many good players right now on our team just to keep ourselves safe job-wise. Sure. We don't want to completely go in the tank and then somebody else is making those picks. We've got more super chats. Jalen all day sicko, midday says this is why Marissa uses a new towel and is freaking out somewhere.

Molden towels worse than dirt, sweat, and skin shuffling? Yeah. Look, honestly, I am. as I think about it, there's sometimes like a two-tow rotation. Not all the time. It depends on... Interesting.

Yeah. How so? How many hooks you got? Yeah, what are we? We got two hooks, one for Emily, one for me. Okay. You got a hook or a bar? A hook.

You got hooks? I like a hook. We got bars. Yeah, we got hooks, but... Julia? Hooks or bars for your towels? Bar. Yeah.

Yeah, Rod. Yeah, but I think there's a towel rotation there. What do you mean you think? You're not aware? No, there's a tower. Someone's rotating the towel is unbeknownst to you. There's a, there's a tower. It shows up.

Yeah, I know. I think sometimes I might use that moist towel, maybe. Oh. He finally comes clean. That was like, if that's dry, yeah. That is, that is dastardly behavior. Let's proceed here. What's the next super show?

Wow, that's a bombshell. He waited until the 80-minute mark because it's like there's no way. Emily's listening to this point. Yeah, yeah. That's a bomb shell. Does she know that? Well, not until now. That would only be for like the, like the two showers within three hours.

The second one. The sweaty gym one. Yeah. Yeah. Also, like she's. That's outrageous. Okay. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah, she's also, she's, she's not. Um, let's let's go on. No, no, no, no, no. You got to finish once you start. It's touch move, man. Um, uh, she, she's big on like on, on doing the laundry a lot too. So the showers get, the towels get cleaned a lot. Okay. Yeah. Are you ever doing the laundry? Uh, I'll, I'll, I'll throw it in the washer. Okay. I'll take my laundry. No, seriously, I'll take my laundry and I'll put it in the washer. And then you don't. you won't even start the machine. Well, because we'll do it because the kids will put theirs in. And then, yeah.

Yeah. Not a manly thing to do? Has that a little to do? It's, it's, it's. I won't even do a lot of laundry. I will do my laundry if, if, if there's something, but. Who's not time for that when you take five showers? All right.

Let's, let's go on. How about folding? How about putting it away? You're ever doing any of that? I'll put it away. Emily will fold it. Yeah. And then I'll put it away.

Yeah. She's better folder than. I am so. Jeez. That sounds like one of those things where you like purposely do it wrong so you know like I'm never going to have to do this again. She's very like organized like, you know, she, she runs a home organization business, right? So she, she's very particular.

So this was all along and you were just prepping her for her next job. She's very particular about like the way thing. Yeah. Really, I'm doing you a favor. Well, yeah. I mean, if if she left it up to my devices, it would drive her nuts. Like she needs everything to be very particular. So.

All right. More super chats from real time with Prince Blue. He says, make aquariums great again. Claire says, ZB, since we won't get your personal analysis, please peck nest migrate the following networks for election coverage. CNN, MSNBC, and Fox. I will nest CNN. I will, I suppose, peck MSNBC and I will migrate Fox.

And Baller SP says ZB, what is the price for your old? election analysis. This is great. I don't have to do any work here. The sickos are just, they've gotten on that. I would just say, as please, please, please vote, exercise your right to vote. And will, you know, my analysis is, you know, vote.

Just that's, that's, that's my analysis. Vote, vote, vote, vote, vote, vote. Who's got time to vote when you got a shower 14 times a day? You're overstating the shower thing. I actually think we're actually understanding God forbid someone wants to be clean and fresh and you know smell good there are other ways to smell good white and crispy says think there was any thought to trade it was what other ways are there to smell good one of keely or rogers feels like whoever isn't playing is a little too valuable to just be a depth piece I think this is a fair point yeah I disagree here um I think they're more apt to trade Eli ricks if there's a sure yeah uh look I don't know if Dary Slays can be on the on the on the on the

team next year. I don't know if Isaiah Rogers is going to be on the team next year. There's a, there's a world where your top three corners next year are Keely, Ringo, Quentin, Aquignon Mitchell, and Cooper de Gene. Perhaps they put the gene on the outside next year and they bring in a slot and Keeley is your third corner. Perhaps they, they keep Isaiah Rogers beyond this year. But I think that if there's any corner who would be, I don't think they're going to move Ringo. I don't think they're going to move Rogers at this point. I think they would move Ricks. is possible if they got a real offer, but this is a team with Super Bowl aspirations. You're talking about a guy in Slay who is older and like there's no guarantee he's going to be ready.

You do not want to get caught needing corners. There's no reason to get cute. Yeah, there's no reason to get cute. You have a nice strong gap at an important position. The strength of the defense, I would keep that strong. Yeah, agree. All right. I don't think we need to go through every drive in the second half now that we've made it here, but there are a couple of double plays that you do.

Yeah. I appreciate this gate of ball. I mean, I feel like, I feel very, you know, there's a lot of things that I would be insecure about on the show. I think personal hygiene, I feel very comfortable with where I stand on the personal hygiene here. Are you casting aspersions at Fran or myself? No, I'm not casting aspersions. I just feel like I'm on good standing when it comes like, I don't think I need to apologize for showering and being fresh and being clean. Like that's not.

You need to apologize for anything. Yeah, so. I told you. I think the shower thing is good. Okay, yeah. I mean, I feel bad about the fish thing. I wish I didn't discuss that. But the shower thing, I feel comfortable about that.

I think you could contribute a little bit more on the laundry front. Honestly, I'm happy to. I'm happy to. That's one of those things where it's like... You're doing what you're told? No, not doing what I'm told. It's just knowing the personalities of the husband and the wife there. Okay.

There's that, trust me, that's, that's, That's not about machismo. That's more about like she's very type A in that regard. She, she wants things very fresh, orderly. And I... Sounds like someone who would be mortified that you're using her towel. No, I, I, there's typically a two towel rotation. I didn't want to say that the towels are getting washed more frequently.

I didn't want to say that because I already have probably like environmentalist saying I'm using too much water for the showers. Now we're running the washer multiple times a day. Or not multiple times a day, every day. So, yeah, I want to stay away from that. All right. Let's talk about the Devante plays. Thank you.

Thank you, please. All right, so we'll go to, this would be the Devante big play. Let's see, this is clip 10 here, Julia. So basically they came out at this point, and this was three big plays to Devante Smith, three big completions. the 11th possession. The Eagles came out. I want to say, let's see what was the score at this point. I believe it was a one score game. Yeah, so this is 2216. Jacksonville punts back to the Eagles. They go on an eight-play drive that starts with the Sequin run for 21 yards. I should also make the note that the offensive line was outstanding in this game and we've seen a lot of

clean pockets for Jalen Hertz, but in the run game and the double teams of the point of attack were outstanding. And overall, the protection was really good. Now, I mentioned earlier that They set up this play earlier to me with the opening drive. They run that little play action play to Ben Van Sumer in the flat. It goes for no yardage. Here it's the same kind of action. You see E.J. Jenkins is coming back across the formation to block the defensive end. Trayvon Walker.

It's under center play action from a heavy personnel set. The only receiver on the field is Devante Smith. Julie, if you go to the next play, because of the play action fake, all of the coverage on the left side for Jalen Hertz is all towards the line of scrimmage. So it's essentially two versus one. Devante Smith versus the corner and the safety to that side. Devante does an outstanding job with his route. He pushes really hard vertically.

And you get a good visual because he's working right down the right hash mark. And the reason why it's important for him to not drift and to really make sure he holds this vertically down the field is that it's going to affect both of the defensive backs. And, Julia, if you go to the next shot, you can see by Devante pushing so hard vertically, look what that safety does. He breaks down and opens up two. Devante's right and now as soon as that

happens, Devante's got him cooked. He puts his foot in the ground and breaks back towards the left and then it becomes a foot race between Devante Smith and a much older Ronald Darby. Jalen lays this out. It was a perfect throw against that coverage on that route and Devante runs under it for a big play and 46 yards.

And this is the one that Jalen said he struggled with during the week of practice. Yeah, he said the time what was it exactly? He said like that the timing was off with him in the agent and they ran to yeah. He missed it. Yeah. So he felt good about the fact that he hit he hit devante on it so a beautiful throw and then it was a few plays later we get to the next one and this is uh clip 11 julia this is uh this is the touchdown uh to devante

smith so this is his third this is his third catch on the drive first one came on third down then you saw that under center shot play that we just looked at here is the touchdown this was after a penalty so it brings it back so it's third in a mile you can see that it's an empty set so it's it's three by two formation you have three receivers to the left two receivers to the right it's devante smith to the bottom of the screen. That's Kenny Gainwell in the near slot to the bottom. And I just wanted to show that it's three by two because having three receivers to the left has a direct impact on how the Jacksonville Jaguars choose to defend this route concept. Because if, Julie, if you go to the next one, you can see that the safety to that side, he has opened up to the three receiver side. He's looking

that way. Because in quarters coverage, typically you think of quarters and you're like, oh, well, it's two safeties on one side, two dbs on one side, two dbs on the other, and there they split the field in the quarters. But when you have three receivers to one side, safeties now typically are taught that you have to actually look on the three receiver side and key anything that's coming that way. So that's safety on that side. He's not looking at Devante Smith. If this were a two by two set, and we know that the Eagles, we've talked about this a lot here on the show. If this were two by two, that safety would not be looking to the other side. He'd instead be looking at Kenny Gainwell.

And if Gainwell had not, if let's say he ran this underneath route, though, you can see that Gainwell has barely left the line of scrimmage because he's chipping the defensive end. In this scenario, if this were two by two, that safety is looking at Devante Smith and it essentially becomes a double team on Devante Smith. But because you had three receivers to the other side, that is holding that safety over the other way. So now this becomes one-on-one. And again, it's Devante against Ronald Darby. Really quickly, you can go to the next shot. Perfect, Julia.

Yeah, go to the next shot. This is a great route from Devonte Smith because he pushes again really hard vertically. That gets Darby to open up towards the field. now Devante opens up and he ends up going out towards the sideline it's a double move basically it's like an out and up route and he gets to Devon he gets Ronald Darby on his heels

and it's a big play touchdown he blows by him that's the last shot there but a great route insane catch great throw from Jalen the protection was there they had two chips on the play helping out the tackle so outstanding job they're great great execution across the board and do you see on film what Jalen

was talking about about him not having vision to this throw? It couldn't quite see that on the play i'll take a look and see actually on the screen grabs you might be able to see yeah i mean it's a pretty clean pocket like i think if he just has to kind of trust that because he's going to open up here because it's a little bit of a cloudy picture when he does have to let this loose it's basically a spot throw for jane on yeah that one he said is that all right so yeah he's he's good it's a store a spot yeah it's like okay like i think this is where devante is supposed to be i'm going to cut this loose they're running the same route at the top of the screen it's

actually it's funny because you could see like the difference between devante smith and jehan Dotson because Dotson's running the same exact route and does not get nearly the same level of separation going up against that corner on the other side. He's going up against a better corner there in Tyson Campbell. But there was great throw, great catch. Yeah, Jalen said there's there's two elements here. First off, he's, he's throwing into a spot. It's the trust that he has in Devante because he doesn't quite have vision on on Devante. And perhaps that might have been where Devonte was on the route too, not just the offensive line. But additionally, he needs to put it in a spot in the back of the end zone where only Devonte can catch it because he doesn't want to

the interception there either. So Devante has to make a great catch there, but Janeline has to put the ball in that spot. So Devonte is in position to make that catch. I was surprised after the game to find that this was a career high and deep completions for Jalen Hertz in this game. According to next gen, it was four completions of 20 plus yards. That's down the field like air yard completions. That was a career high. I was surprised by that. Me too. I figured there'd be more like in the 2022 season or last year, but not the case. Are you, so there was this press conference last year with James Franklin where he left this idea

of like just throw the ball up right but there are sometimes when there's a third and long where I feel like just put it up for Devante or AJ to make a catch like don't put it in harm's way but sometimes even there if it gets intercepted it's

it's third and long but there are our times when you're so focused on scheming up a play in that situation where I would just think hey you have this guy put it up and see if he can make a spectacular play on the ball

that would have been a disaster thrown an interception on that one just because you have six point yeah six point lead if you miss that you kick a field goal to go up by nine but to your point yes I think that there is a certain element to that

but also like there are a level look if it's if it's third and 17 yes I think there's there that's when you can kind of throw I know Sheila's talked about that you know with you guys in the past like that that's I think that's a perfectly acceptable way to kind of approach that

but you know if it's third and eight like you should be able to run your offense and not like the third and third play to AJ early in the game where they run that deep corner route off mesh. Like to me, like work the mesh routes. Don't have to throw that deep corner. The fourth and one touchdown to AJ Brown was that last week or the week before. That was two weeks ago, right?

The Giants game. Yes. Where that's like doesn't need to be this hard. So I think there's elements to it. But in a situation like that where it's third in a mile, like, yeah, I'm okay with the deep ball downfield. My last question for you specific play is the fourth and inches? Yes.

Could you have hit AJ Jenkins there? To me, like he should have throttled that down. I mean, you get at first, like the play call, don't love the play call in that situation. We're talking about that. But yes, with the way that play, the play was covered, it was designed to go to Sequin. Same play that happened in Atlanta where Seekwan drops into the goal line. But the defense picks it up. If he throttles down, he's got E.J. Jenkins there.

It's got to be a quick decision, but that's the whole concede of the play. Yeah. Julia, do you have the offensive clip nine? It's just the one screen grab. And I actually just grabbed it just so you could see it. But if he kind of throttles down, he's rolling to his right, Jalen. if he throttles this down, he's got E.J. Jenkins kind of sitting down there. Yeah, and that's a tough play.

But like, that's really the only other option on the play. Like, it should be aware. He's trying to be. I think at first he's like, all right, I'm going to throw this to Sequin. And if not, I'm going to try and run for the first. But Devin Lloyd, I mean, look, Devin Lloyd is not a perfect player, but he's really fast. He's an explosive player. And so he beats Shailen to the edge and kind of cuts them off at the pass there.

So he takes out the scramble. And then obviously he ends up throwing that one away. All right. We have another super chat. from the Andal, who says ZB, how many more superchats for a ZB election pod? I'm not doing an election pod. I appreciate, I know Bo probably appreciates the bit here. I appreciate the interest in the show.

I appreciate the interest in my opinions, but I will not be delving into any political commentary. Okay. All right. Well, let's... Nor should that be controversial either. Yeah. I mean, listen, some people think the moment is big enough to, to, it's Speak your mind.

Okay. Let's talk about the defense and let's do it through the prism of the ACE Hardware Temperature Check. Let's take a look at which team is heating up or cooling off with our Ace Hardware Temperature Check. Visit Ace Hardware Home Services online at www.w.aeshardwarehomeservices.com to get started on your next project. And boy, Fran was the defense on fire in the first half.

I mean, just outstanding. The guys were flying around. every level of defense, I thought, had their moments in this game. It was one of the better defensive performances that we've seen, certainly, from this group. But I think when you look at the linebackers, what you got from Zach Bonn, what you got from the Kobe Dean in this game was really, really good to see. We saw good flashes again from the young guys in the secondary. I thought Cooper DeGine had some really good moments.

The pass rush had moments. So this was overall, like a really good defensive effort. And then what happened in the second half when things, I mean, even then still, it wasn't that bad, but when they did surrender stuff, what went wrong? Yeah, there were some individual moments. You know, like, C.J. Gardner Johnson got beat on a couple plays where he was like man to man. He got his eyes caught in the backfield on one. He got kind of picked off on a switch release concept.

That was the one that Evan Ingram in the end zone that got tackled inside the five. So there were a couple of those. They, the Jacksonville caught them on a couple of draw plays. Those really were the only runs that hit for Jacksonville the entire day where they ran. They basically like surprised the Eagles with a couple draws. But outside of that, I mean, it was like a play here or there where they were able to, you know, Parker Washington got some like separation on a on a comeback route. Brian Thomas Jr. got Isaiah Rogers on that one in the fourth quarter.

Outside of that, I mean, the defense was, you know, it was such a, like, 50s and such a silly game, right, for them that it's hard to even to really judge. But what did you think of Isaiah Rogers in his first game as a full start? Better against the past and against the run. There were a couple where I'm like, oh, like, I would have like to see him come down with a little bit more like Vic and Vigure, you know, a guy coming down as a force player in the run game. But overall, I mean, he gave up the same.

separation on that Brian Thomas deep curl route, but then he came back a few plays later, and the coverage he had on that one was just phenomenal. It was that Trevor Lawrence went that way. They showed the, I mean, just really, really sticking coverage, and you saw that athleticism show up. So, yeah, I thought he was solid. I thought it was a nice debut for him. How about the linebackers?

Yeah. I mean, Zach Bond was all over the field. It happened from the jump. Really impressive. The PBO he made on the very first play of the game, watching it live, I was like, oh, that's great play. watching it on film was even better. He had no business making that play.

Basically, they ran a flood. I have the screen grabs for that one, but it was they ran a three level stretch to that side where basically you're running a route deep, a route underneath, and you have a route attacking the sideline from the middle of the field. You see against zone defenses,

this work every single week around the NFL. It's a staple concept of a great way to attack defense. And Zach Bond, as the linebacker in that area of the field, so often they kind of, let those guys go. I'm going to pass him off to the safety. I'm going to pass. There's a corner over there that should be in position to defend this throw. But Zach Bond just keeps getting depth and depth.

And he makes that Pbue, like 20 yards downfield, a leaping Pbue against Evan Ingram, just outstanding play from Zach Bond. I am blown away by Zach Bond when I went back and watched the game. If you're like Professor Shelman and you watch the coordinator press conferences, you saw I asked the number of questions today about Zach Bonn and Dick Fangio with inside linebackers. I have this working like this half half big theory. Zach Bond is like the the dream Eagles linebacker like Eagles fan linebacker, right?

I mean typically. Z.B. No, some of the linebackers that they get, you know, even like your T.J. Edwards is of the world. They might be undersized or like they're deficient. A Zach Bond is big. He's physical. He can blitz. Like he can get to the quarterback.

He's showing that he can make plays on the ball. he has that that physicality you know that he's already been flagged a few times for some like late hits or personal fouls but he he plays with the physical with the physicality that's the first thing nick seriani said over over the summer he's really been a presence for them and just a great signing you know I was trying to get into vik fangio's analysis or assessment or evaluations of inside linebackers that I asked three different questions about that today and one of the things that things he says is he says like it can be lazy sometimes for coaches to form their evaluation based on on the way other people evaluate the player he says there's coaches who do that he doesn't

pay attention to that so he he kind of used it from an isolated perspective he said that inside line I asked him are you best at evaluating inside linebackers he said yeah that's the position that he's spent the most time coaching that's a good question yeah and then I asked who his prototype is for inside linebackers. Like who's who's the guy you kind of measured all your inside linebackers against? And he started off by mentioning, you know, Sam Mills. He said, I probably want to know who's who Sam Mills is. Oh, wow. I was a little insulted by that. Like, I didn't want to like do, come on, Montclair State, Philadelphia Stars, New Orleans Saints, Carolina Panthers. I think it was with the Cleveland Browns at one. Like I, I didn't want to do that. So I made a joke he was,

I said he was about my size to which Vic Fangio quickly said no he wasn't and Vic was like he was short but he was big right and I don't mean Sam Ellis is literally my size I kind of meant that in terms of

it's hard for your prototype to be like a five nine and a half linebacker you know but then he mentioned you know I think keep pounding that's a good blue chew yeah like Patrick Willis and Navarro Fulman were in it so anyways Zach

as Zach Bonn, Bo and I spoke about this yesterday, I feel like, not to take anything away from Howie, how he signed him ultimately, but I feel like this was Vic Van Gio. Vic Van Gogh was on him from the beginning. Right.

And what an evaluation, because Boe made the point throughout the summer, and it was well said that the Saints had four years to evaluate him, and they didn't view him like this. The rest of the league, like, didn't, they weren't lining up to, now, Zach Bond was a day one for agent signing, but it's,

it's not as if teams were like trading for him to be an inside linebacker. The Eagles evaluated him here, put him there, and he's won the job. And I even asked Michael Clay this. Like when you, first of all, his tape in March, I figured this was going to be like a core special teams guy for you, right? And I said that Julie evaluate him for that. And he's like, he looked at the special teams thing, but that he always likes when a guy graduates to be a starter.

So whether he signs, re-signs mid-season, or if he resigns the team in the spring what are you guys expecting contract wise i'm looking at some of the deals that were given out this off season uh to the position um so patrick queen uh with the steelers ended up getting 13.7 mil a a i frankie louvo was 12 million a why with the Washington commanders blake cashman got eight and a half million um so cashman look that that would put him in basically the way i i kind of keep track all this out that that would be like that's like one tier. I think you go into the next group and that's where you see like, I'm looking at some of the

other guys that got, you know, Devondre Campbell got $5 million last year. Jordan Hicks got $4 million last year. Cade Nellis is at 7.2. You know, you might probably look at them as kind of similar type of players. Also interesting considering he left the New Orleans Saints as well. The Saints just gave Pete Werner, seven and a half mil. Do you think he's scheme dependent, though? I think seven is, yeah, that should get it done.

So 7-8 mil. Like, do you have to make that signing confident that Vic Fangio is going to be here? I think so. Yeah, because. And if you're, if you're Zach, like, do you also, you also want to make that? Sure. You know, you, you, now obviously. So, so this is the thing.

If you make that signing, you kind of have to expect like Nick Siriani to be here, Vic Fangio to be here. Yeah, that's what I was saying on the post game. It does feel a little bit dependent on that. Exactly. Like, you're not going to sign Zach Bond and then bring in a whole new defense scheme. And then you had this guy who kind of fits ideal. Yeah, and I was also thinking about this.

We know because he's talked about it. I remember in 2022, there were a bunch of guys coming up and how he chose not to do any in-season extensions, which was contra to his philosophy, and it was because he didn't want to mess things up chemistry-wise in the locker room. And I understood that. You got to think about the guys who were up this year. Like, first of all, are they as worried about the locker room chemistry?

And then from, you know, Milton, Isaiah Bond standpoint, Milton is the guy who, if you're sending a message to the locker room, it's like this is a guy who we drafted and developed. You're rewarding him. That's an easy story to tell. That's like, I don't think anybody would feel bad about that. There's also in 2022, remember, there were multiple guys at the positions who were coming up at the same time. So you were worried about like if, well, if we pay CJ or we pay Marcus Epps, the other one's going to get mad.

Sure. That's not the case this time around necessarily. So you could do it. And with Zach Vaughn, it's like, I mean, you're rewarding a guy who went out and one job in training camp and has been awesome. I don't think anybody would worry about that. Maybe Isaiah Rogers, you would worry a little bit more about it

just because who knows what that group is going to look like next year. But it's a thing that we know that how he's thinking about. You're right. I think more of the question now, though, is the scheme. Like, you know, you're not going to you don't want to sign a guy. Which is the nice thing about Milton Williams. Exactly.

He can play in any scheme. If you don't know for a fact what this defense is going to look like next year, right right with at least in 2022 you knew seriani which going to be your coach next year like even if if you thought ganon might get a job and i think they thought ganon might be get a job i think they thought fangelo would be the coordinator the year after right um but this year uh look the eagles are six and two there's there's no indication that next eriani won't be the coach but if they don't win in the playoffs if they're one and out in the playoffs that's certainly on the table all right they'll wrap it for the ace hardware temperature check looking at the defense. I believe we also have another super chat. I think we meant another trade. I was getting excited.

From Claire who says, Zeebee, what advice can you give to individuals trying to date somebody with opposing political viewpoints like James Carville and Mary Madeline? Yeah, I would say that, so this is dating.

This isn't like, you know, a marriage. I would say in anything, like someone's political opinions are not the sum of their character. I think reasonable minds can disagree. So I think that if I wouldn't allow that to be a deal breaker if there are, if you think the person has good character and is the type of person that you would want to spend time with. You know, I think.

Yeah, I don't know. I don't want to be heteronormative here. But I would imagine that if you are a woman, you probably don't have a lot of patience for a man who doesn't think that you should have control over your own body. I'm there's I mean there's uh

that would be that would be a tough a tough thing for me to get over I I think is there's a lot of evidence that goes against that though unfortunately yeah yeah

that's a rat yeah um I was trying to be inclusive yeah it's fine okay um

I by the way Shay you're in the chat we need a bean update what's going on with the bean let us know we need some bean stuff we got we got 11 minutes left we got 11 minutes we need we need

bean talk here I do think and and it does feel like the the appetite for this is ravenous some point in the off season we need a full episode of just Zach relationship advice I don't think so Valentine's Day I want it

Zach Relat Valentine's that's a great idea V day at Z day Oh love that That was a great idea It's your favorite thing it's a mailbag episode So just the questions have to be about relationship. Honestly, just treat everyone with respect, lead with empathy. And that's, yeah, if you treat people with respect and you lead it with empathy,

you'll be able to build meaningful relationships with any, you know, well-intentioned, well-reasoned person, I feel like, you know. And I do think that, yeah, I think diversity is a wonderful thing in terms of diversity of, in all facets, whether it's, yeah. So, yeah, be open to people of all, you know, genders, religions, races, and even thought, you know, I think be open to all people. That's what that. So, yeah, so from the purpose of meaningful relationships, I think that's the case.

If you come at all relationships with the idea of, like, you know, I want to, you know, have a meaningful relationship with you, then I think, yeah, I think that's very helpful. Okay. So that's my relationship advice. She said he'll send an update when he can. Shea continuing to pretend as if he's not the one involved, it sounds like. I don't know.

I don't know the story. Probably on the Discord right now. Right? There you go. There go. Ten more minutes until the deadline. certainly seems like we're not going to get something. It's going to be a little bit of a fizzle here,

but that's okay. We had a lot to talk about. Bryce Young, he's remaining with the Panthers. Couldn't get a deal on. Sorry for him. Yeah. Yeah.

That's too bad. Okay. If I were Miami, I feel like I would have probably had that discussion. That's the one, right? I mean, Vegas, too. That seems so similar. Yeah, Vegas too.

Yeah. But if I'm the Panthers, by the way, I'm rolling with Bryce Young the rest of the year. Like, I don't get why. Right, exactly. I wouldn't go back to any adult. He showed some promises past week. I didn't watch that full game,

but I watched more than the highlights of it. And I was impressed. Actually, when I went back and looked through the quick part of that game, one guy who jumped out to me there was Jetavian Sanders, man. You know. That could have been there was the Jalix Hunt pick. Yeah, Jetavian Sanders really showed some pop in that game. I think, like, I was actually thinking about this.

So, you know, obviously you guys had the trade deadline show last week and just having the conversations. about what they could have done today if they don't do anything in the next eight minutes. I actually, a tight end that's actually like the anti-Jatavian Sanders,

like a real like inline presence that can be like a dominant blocker. Like a souped up Jack Stoll. Yeah, because honestly like Stoll is like a fine blocker, but he's not, he's a willing blocker. Yeah, but he's not someone that's,

oh, he put him up against a defensive end and he's going to win. Like a co-keefed type. Yes, like a co-keefed type. Darnel, Yes. That would be like to me when I look at this team with the way that they want to play. Interesting. Because here's what's happening. They're coming in in the second half of games and they're in the run of the ball.

They get into these four minute drill situations and they come out in 12 personnel or, you know, 13 personnel at times. And they line up and we're seeing them run duo a lot the last few weeks where it's under center. The tight ends are all close to the formation. So the defense responds. They load the box and they bring everybody out. And everyone knows it's going to be a run. And you've got, you've got, you've got. got the tight end, Grant Calcuttaire lined up against Ariric Armstead on the backside like one-on-one. Like, Eric Ariricester has been a defensive tackle

and went in the NFL for a long time. He's playing defensive and now for the Jaguars. I'll give Grant a lot of credit. He got a win on one of those plays, but he's not going to win a lot of those battles. To me, like I would start to experiment with getting some more like six offensive line personnel sets. If they're not going to get that, they're probably not going to get that

extra tight end now. So I'd get like Tyler Steen on the field and put him as the extra tight end, you know, and trying, because if they know you're going to run it anyway like that's what you see in Detroit that's what they're doing with Dan Campbell constantly they're bringing that sixth offensive line on in those must have it situations and just saying yeah stop us we're going to run the ball I think they kind of need to start leaning into that a little bit

the US have done that in the past with Alan Barber being one of the guys that they did that with you know we haven't seen it really from Nick yeah no you know who they're doing that with in Detroit Coyote Coyote that's right come boy absolutely I know what I'm talking about what do you guys thoughts I mean look we don't know like how long AJ could be hurt but what does that mean for the offense now I would assume

Zach what do you think Dallas got her back this week? Yeah we talked about it yesterday I would think the fact that they didn't put him on IR now I get you want to preserve the possibility but this is the if he doesn't play this week I can't imagine he's back on on the following Thursday like he wouldn't even

have a practice in right? Unless you're saving them for Thursday unless you're saving him Dallas is not I mean that Unless you're just looking past Dallas. Yeah, what you make of the Eagles? Adding another Dallas to the practice. Yeah, I thought of you.

Dallas Gann. Yeah, they let go of Braden Daniels. I was excited for Braddon Daniels. I didn't even get a chance to talk to him. I'm sorry. Yeah. And he spells his name, interestingly. A.E.

Yeah. Yeah. The question is with no A.G. Brown. Yes. If they have no A.J. Brown. Right. I'm curious. Like, you know, I know you said that it seemed like Johnny Wilson was the number three in this game.

Dotson did. out snap him and it did seem a little bit tilted towards the first half with johnny wilson i would imagine if it's a game where they don't have a jr brown then dotson's going to get a lot of run and this is like this is his chance it felt like he's had that chance before but now that at least jeline hart hurts has seen him catch the ball down the field uh he'll be involved but yeah i would certainly imagine they're going to lean heavily on the running game and and probably 12 personnel johnny wilson had a touchdown in the game obviously came back out of the opi but uh jaylin did see it happen with his own eyes. He did catch a touchdown.

So if that plays in his favorite. That's true. That's true. Would you, if a team's like getting, you know, if it's one of those Preston, or not even Preston Smith, who was the guy who was traded, Tradevis White? Yep. Was like a 2028, 7th round pick for the 2027th round pick. If you could do one of those deals and get like a veteran wide receiver, would you, would you do it or would just roll with the guys you have?

Yeah. Like an Adam Thielen type, but. Yeah. I don't think they need that. Okay. And I also, like, what they have is a collection of varied skill sets right now. So it's not like you need the, you know, the blocking version of a wide receiver because you have Johnny Wilson. You have Johan Dotson to give a little bit something different.

Yeah, I don't think they need that. If the prognosis on AJ came back differently, I'd probably think about it. Yeah, I'd think about it. But I think if you're expecting that AJ is, you know, out a week or two, and I think you're probably okay, stand in Pat. Now, I don't know if Hallie Roseman is going to speak to us no matter what, but let's say, Howard Rosman did and they don't make a trade and he says really the way we're looking at is James Bradbury's our big trade deadline acquisition. You're like, you know, the guy who's coming off by R at some point, right?

That, yeah, what if we traded for a guy who was a two-time program? Yeah, well, you know what we do? That does remind me we did talk about who could be next to be released to get a roster spot. I mean, Trista McCollum is sure. Tristan McCollum, Nick Yates. It's certainly possible. And then I got to see what happens with Jack Stoll. I mean, maybe they carry four tight ends.

but like we said at some point britain covey's going to come back i don't think they're going to have six wide receivers and four tight ends on the roster so um they're going to have to decide do you go later at you know are you are you willing to not have that blocking tight end in which case they would have to lean into what fran said where in 12 am i boring you oh boy he took a big yawn I thought that was like, they took to play a Tyler Steen and 12 personnel.

Super chat. Julian Alciko Dioma Day says Z day, Z day, Z day, Z day. So the uproar continues in support of that. And White and Crispy says if Howie could get any non-quarterback on the block, who would it be?

Miles Garrett. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if he's on the block. Right, yeah, I guess that's true, yeah. I would probably say Aziz Ojalari, right? now of like a reasonable guy at this point he's probably the i think he would be the best edge rusher who would be moved at this point right yeah i mean i'm i'm assuming your miles garrott i'm sorry max crosbie is not being moved uh i don't know if jadevian clown he does anything for you yeah i'm trying to think that would probably be it yeah in terms of the realistic names

That's what we've talked about. We're a minute away. Doesn't seem like it's going to happen. This would be the upset. Scott has a super chat. He says, Bo, I'll vote for the candidate of your choice if you admit Marissa Dunn won

the 2022. Oh, wow. Scott, I'm going to need you to submit another super chat and tell me what state you live in, please. I have to be, right? That's great. Vince is pumped.

To me, this is, I would, have to say a business reason for us to talk more politics. I was thinking today, and I saw this clip online. My favorite, no, I'm not advising anyone to do this, of course. I made my big plea to vote, vote, vote. And this is an apolitical thing just as a fan of comedy. I love that.

You're a hingecliff guy? No, I love that carbon enthusiasm episode when Larry sees a long line. And he turns to the guy in front of him and says, who are you voting for? and they were voting for different people. He's like, so we can't see each other out. Let's let's leave. And then it was decided by one vote.

Yeah. So that was a great. Did you see that one? It was gone. No. You need to see, okay. You're going to get no cells from now on. You have to know that.

Why? This is the yon comment? Yeah. I mean, imagine it, it bows in the middle of a point and I was just like, like, what would your reaction be? I think it'd be incredulous. Maybe.

I don't know. Yeah, okay. ding ding ding it's four o'clock uh the eagles just put out a tweet let's see here the eagles have released albert okuagmanon wow they didn't let him get to what you got to be kidding me Dylan mcair should be on the key oh jeez i thought i thought i thought like both said that and i didn't hear oh that's what okay oh god he'll be back on practice i can't believe that What is Dillman

done for the Eagles did burn a return to I'm going to let you recover there's no recovering from let's hope that's the worst news of the day he's 21 day practice window I did not know why you're acting that way I got worried that like he said this and I wasn't hearing it or something

um uh yeah Vince said the pencils down. Deadline has passed. That's a, that's from Diana Rossini. That is an annual joke. I cannot believe they did that. They strung this thing along.

They could have just waved him at the deadline, at the 53 men cuttown. Nobody was going to claim him. And then they could have just kept him on the practice squad. They wouldn't have to go through this whole rigamarole. Dylan McMan has played no snaps for the Rams this year. I know. Okay.

That's fine. All right. He doesn't have to play this year. He's a player. are you keeping the pipeline so there is a last minute trade here the texans are trading calil davis to the 49ers in exchange for a 2026 seventh round pick so the 49ers add to their defensive line kind of he's fine clif davis but yeah i would imagine that there's no move from the eagles because albert okweipan um you're right they could not keep four receipt four tight ends and

six receivers yep uh yeah so that's that's that's that's that's that's it comes down to. So that shows you Jack Stoll is, is the third tight end on this team. And Jack Stoll was not part of the equation. No, he was not part of the equation. Yeah, but I'm saying that he wasn't even yet released. No, yeah, exactly.

He was not released at that point. No, but it's not like their skill sets are similar in any way. No. No, true. All right. Oh, this is pretty good. That's not a super chat. I don't, I don't acknowledge it.

Let me see here. So something else to note, by the way, and I think this is, so from a roster building perspective, the other relevant thing about the trade deadline is from here on out, every player who is released is now subject to waivers. So therefore, a good team is less likely to get a player who is cut if they're attractive. That player would either need to fall to you in the 20s, which the Eagles would be on the waiver. wire or would need to clear waivers. And so if you remember, you know, for instance, Randy Moss was once waived at this point of the calendar and he was, he was picked up,

he was, he was claimed on waivers. When the Eagles, when they released Devin White, one of the things they said is that they'll make that financial deal at the time because if they waited until after the trade deadline, Devin White wouldn't be able to pick his team. There you go. All right, Scott has a super chat and he says, I live in Texas. All right, now when I need a super chat, I'm going to need a photo verification. I actually don't even remember the 2022 super.

Oh, shocker. Sure, Marissa won. Go get, go vote. Let's see here. Yeah, so look, the Eagles announced that. So I can't imagine that. And by the way, they released him once. they did in part so he he's not on waivers i imagine right um but it's a good call that's a good point

but i i don't know but didn't they say they waived him i no uh did they waive him and they released him i think they said they released him at that at this point yeah the eagles released our equate when i'm so had they waited until tomorrow yeah he would have gone on on waivers they made that determination so they announced it at like 350 uh uh no they they put it out of four actually. So presumably they did it before. Presumably they did it earlier. So the Eagles made a trade for Albao last year.

They made him a priority signing and nothing happened. And they used a return. And Trevor Kagan hasn't been active a single time. Someone said, by the way, when I put that out, Q, you know, I'm sorry, Bo Wolf knew Dill McMahon ran incoming. So they know you. This was Anique, A. VJ. 1083. It nix my man.

All right. That'll do it for the P.H.L.I. Eagles trade deadline spectacular. Back tomorrow, 2 o'clock, Jamie and Rich. And then in studio on Thursday, the three of us back together. Dane is on Friday ahead of the Eagles Cowboys game on Sunday with no Dak Prescott. Will it be Cooper Rush or Traylance? What do you think, Fran? Cooper Rush.

It better be because I got to be. I've got to rewatch the game where he played a couple years ago. All right, well, there you go. Enjoy the day, everybody. May you live it with as little stress as possible. Vote. Make sure you vote, most of you. And that'll do it.

And for all the people who have asked for the Zach election show, just make sure you send him your, hit him up in your DMs. I'm sure he's got a link for you. We're raised literally like, I mean, how much money was spent on the Zach? election show. Like, North of $30. puts the company in like a conflicting position here.

You want to raise money. Yeah, exactly. You want to make money, but you don't want to talk politics. Yeah. This was fun. I always enjoy doing two-hour shows. Me too. Julia, thank you for making it happen.

Thank you, Julia. Behind the scenes. And thanks to everybody for watching live and all of you who are listening. After the fact, we will talk to you tomorrow. The Eagles, don't do anything except make us very angry. with one minor transaction. That's okay. Us is a strong one.

And only the second time, I believe, in the past, what, seven years, they haven't made a... An in-season move, yes. And the other one was 2020. 2020. No, I would imagine they would quibble and say that Dotson was an in-season move, but by, you know, post-week-one, this is the first time. Maybe it's an election year thing.

Maybe it's an election year thing. There you go. That'll do it for this episode of the P.H.O.I. Eagles podcast. Thanks to everybody for watching and listening. We will talk to you tomorrow. And as always, we love you. We all silly like the mayor.