PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - PHLY Eagles Podcast | Confidence levels in the Philadelphia Eagles’ 2024 schedule: How many surefire wins?
Episode Date: May 16, 2024Now that we know how the Eagles’ 2024 schedule plots out, it’s time to go through the games and draft which outcomes we’re most confident in. Is the home game vs. Carolina the easiest patsy? How... daunting is the trip to Baltimore? How much of a toss-up is the Browns game, dependent on whether Michael Dunn is starting? Zach Berman and Bo Wulf keep the focus tight on the schedule and keep things rolling. Jalen Hurts, A.J. Brown, DeVonta Smith and Lane Johnson are all popular players! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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The PHLY Eagles podcast, back in the saddle.
Thursday, high noon, Bo, Wolf, Zach Berman, ready to talk a little bit more about the schedule.
Maybe get into some other nonsense.
Everybody wants to know whether Zach had to sleep on the couch last night.
How you doing, my friend?
Doing well, excited for the show.
Eager to talk more schedule and whatever else is on your mind.
You and I have the game-by-game predictions on all-PHLY.com right now,
which people can read if they are a diehard.
I want to know what was Reed's win-loss record after he went through it.
Reed predicted the Eagles to go 16 and 1.
Good man.
Where's the loss coming?
He has them losing to the Ravens.
Okay.
I think the Ravens are tough to defend him.
So that's probably what it is.
Eagles linebackers may not be up for the challenge.
But who's to say whether Lamar Jackson will be healthy all the way in week 13?
He was telling Emily that the Panthers aren't good.
So he has some choice words that a six-year-old probably shouldn't be.
saying, but he was...
How nasty are we talking?
No, not nasty.
Just like, yeah, I don't know where he hears these words.
I don't know.
It's hard to say with a...
He said, the Panthers suck.
That's what he said, yeah.
So...
There you go.
Hard to argue.
It's probably listening to you.
All of a sudden, Reed's going to be sitting in class today, and there's going to be a
knock on the door at the classroom, and it's going to be David
Tepper.
And he's going to say, hey,
Ew, that's not nice.
And he's going to take his hat off, and then Reid's going to kick him in the shin.
David Teper's showing up at the elementary school.
He should be fortunate to be in the company of such an accomplishment.
You can't even say that one with the straight face.
All right, let's go.
Mr. Brass balls himself.
Let's get into it.
All right.
The conceit of today's show, Zach is a new game that we're going to track over the course of the season.
The Confluence game.
Ooh.
You ready for this?
How long do you think of that one?
I would say 30 seconds before the show started.
And what we're going to do, Eagles have 17 games on the schedule.
You and I are going to take turns drafting the games that we feel the most confident about the result in.
So let's say, for instance, you think the Panthers suck.
You want to draft Week 14, a win over the Carolina Panthers as the result you feel the most confident about.
By all means, go for it.
Can pick a winner a loss.
and then the week, whichever game remains on the board as the 17th game,
you and I will pick separately so that we both have nine games to follow over the course of the season.
And what would you like the stakes to be for this game?
I'd like to call that, by the way, Marissa's team because she always gets the left over one.
Yeah.
What should the stakes be?
A steak, a cheese steak.
Oh, I like that.
A cheese steak.
Yeah, the steaks be a cheese steak.
Okay, that sounds good.
Now, from a cheese steak joining your choice.
Okay.
So Angelo's or you pick it.
All right.
I like that.
I might go get that one, the Jalen Hertz one that you wrote up.
Oh, that is great one.
Food Chasers Kitchen.
I will give them.
I haven't had that one yet.
Give them free ad in Elkins Park.
Great people, the Johnstone Twins and great cheese steak.
It's worth chasing.
All right.
But in true competitive fashion, Zach, in order to figure out who's going to go first,
we're going to start this episode
with a little Immaculate Grid
Tic-Tac-Tow, you versus me.
We haven't done this in a while
and the conceit here,
if you haven't seen these vods,
as we call them.
You're usually conceit a lot.
It's twice because I'm so conceited.
I didn't say such a thing.
Okay.
You said that if you see these vods.
Yeah, I feel like you can just take it from here
if you're going to just pick apart my word choices.
Why don't you go?
The one time I think of all the times you say,
I don't think that's what that word means.
That's what you say to me.
Well, that's a little different.
All right, so the concede here, Zach, is, you know,
if you're familiar with Immaculate Grid, there's nine grids.
You know, you're trying to pick a player who played for both teams.
We're going to try to win Tick-Tect-T-T-O.
And if there is no winner of Tic-Tecto, it'll go to the person whose choices have the lowest
average percentage.
Are we ready?
I'm ready.
And in order to do this, we've got to do rock paper, scissors.
Although, because I don't remember who won the last game.
I'll let you go first.
Okay, that's fine.
Yeah.
All right, do we have it ready?
Julia Gulia.
Elkins Park, Great Food City.
Good and good, good, uh, good, uh,
it's a friend Duffy says.
Comment from Marque.
Okay.
Let's see.
We got Seahawks, Packers.
What is the, uh, it's a little too small for me, the top right.
What is that?
A thousand plus yard.
rushing in a season or in a season?
Okay.
And then on the left side, you've got Bears, Chargers, Colts.
I will hit the timer here and we will get started.
I'm going to go, I'll go for the middle.
I'll take that middle spot on.
I will go Jared Cook.
As Chargers, Packers.
What percentage did we get there, Julia?
Okay.
So then, let's see.
I should go for one of the corner ones.
Is that correct?
So let me think of Seahawks, Bears.
Does anything jump to mind real quick?
No.
So I will go the, I will go bottom corner then for a thousand-yard rusher for the Colts.
And I'll go Marshall Falk.
Hmm.
What's 8%
Okay, I will take
I will take top middle
Give me ha ha
Clinton Dix
So I need to block you here
With
Seven
What was his Marshall Falk?
Okay
So I need to block you here
At Packers Colts
And
Let's see, Packers
Colts, Matt Hasselbeck.
Oh, now that's interesting because I was going to go Matt Hasselbeck bottom left,
and I'm going to have to block you there.
Now, I actually should have taken that one because I have a good one for Packers Colts
and you get the half point, or you get the half percentage for a former eagle.
I would have gone Dennis Kelly there.
I would have felt very good about that.
All right.
So now I have to block you with a non-Matt Hasselbeck Seahawks Colts player.
This is tough.
Bad strategy by me taking that.
that Packers bears one.
All right, Seahawks Colts.
I'm not feeling good about this.
No?
Do you have one?
I think you do.
You have it for the win?
I don't know.
I mean, you can pick a different one on the board.
I know.
Seahawks Colts is what I struggled with at the jump here.
But I think I might.
Let me think here.
shows off to a roaring start.
Yeah, Seahawks Colts is a tough one, huh?
Yeah, Hassellback would have been good there.
Yeah, but you did a good job by taking Hasselbeck there
to block me from using Hasselbeck.
All right, I'm going to, I'll just go top left.
I'll take Jimmy Graham.
Okay.
For the purpose of time, I need to block you, okay?
and so I will go in that top corner.
Let's see.
I mean, I just say Walter Payton, but the number will be really high there.
I'm trying to think of some.
Oh, let's go Matt Forte, F-O-R-T-E.
A Seahawk, Colts.
I'll keep brainstorming the Seahawks Colts.
Oh, I got one.
I got one.
All right, give me 20 seconds to try to think about it.
Actually, I never moved that for me.
I'm actually proud of this one here.
I'm going to be so excited, and the only thing I'm going to get is to pick first in our game.
I don't know.
Yeah, I got nothing.
Go ahead if you got it.
I'm going to go with Marcus Johnson, who the Eagles traded to the Seahawks and the Michael Bennett trade.
But did he end up playing a game for them or not?
Oh.
Marcus Johnson.
This is a great one if you nail it.
I can't see.
17 to 2022.
Yes.
Did not play a game.
He didn't play a game for which team?
I think the Seahawks.
Interesting.
I can't be sure.
All right.
Well, in that case, you know what?
Just give me a middle right.
I'm going to just take, I guess, just Austin Echler.
Never ran for 1,000 yards?
Oh, geez.
Well, we both bone this.
So then I get one more here, and I get.
Seahawks Chargers, and I will go with Charlie Whitehurst.
Nice, good one. Wow.
Austin Echler has never run for 1,000 yards.
All right, so this is kind of a crap show.
I guess we have to figure out who has the lowest percentage points here.
I can't read the percentages.
Read them off to me, yeah.
Wow, two misses.
It's a pathetic, pathetic performance.
Great for the audio listeners this show.
Yeah, this is fantastic.
Okay, Jimmy Graham 40.
Okay.
Ha ha,
7.
Okay.
Matt Forte, 30.
Oof.
Oh, wait, no, I'm not, he's Forte.
Yeah.
Give me just mine first.
Okay, sorry.
Then your third one is 12.
Okay.
That's all you have, right?
Oh, that's it, I only had three.
Yeah.
And then Zach's.
Hold on.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
So I'm 19.
So I got more right, so I should win four to three.
Or no, we both got.
No, because you jumped in on me.
And you got it wrong.
Okay.
Okay.
And then, so what are his?
So, Zacks are, Matt is 30.
Okay.
Charlie's 18.
Okay.
Matt 15.
Marshall, eight.
I think you're going to win this.
Yes, mine is 19.7.
Yours is 17.8.
Okay.
You win.
So I get the first pick.
Wow.
That was really worth it, don't you think?
I would have just conceded the first pick.
But I actually think Imaculate Great is fun on this show.
and it's a little reward for the live viewers.
Yes, I agree.
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All right, Zach, rock and roll.
You're on the clock in the first ever pick in the history of the confluence game.
So if you just look at the Super Bowl odds,
the team that has the lowest Super Bowl odds are the Carolina Panthers.
The, if you just look at how the NFL views these teams, there's a conference call going on now.
I couldn't take part in it because we have our show.
But it's how the NFL kind of put the schedule together.
And the Panthers only have one standalone game all year, and that's when they play overseas.
So that goes to show you kind of what the league thinks of the Panthers right now.
There is a chance that Bryce Young plays better.
But if there's any game that I'm confident the Eagles to win this year, it's the W-V-Carolina.
Now, I should also say this, though, the game that if we were doing this exercise a year ago.
Exactly.
Yeah, the Arizona Cardinals were lowest and Super Bowl odds.
They didn't have these prime time games, and the Eagles end up losing to Carolina.
Similar time of year, not exact same, but late in the season, right?
So maybe the Panthers kind of get some momentum under canals,
but I am going with Eagles over Carolina for the game that I have the most confidence in right here.
Okay, interesting.
Yeah, you know, the longer you, the deeper you go into the season,
Maybe the more variables there are, who knows how these teams turn out.
But I think if they were playing tomorrow, that's the right pick.
But who knows if that's how it turns out.
As you said, that's what we would have picked for Gannon last year.
Because of that, I'm going to lean a little bit more towards the beginning of the schedule.
And I'm going to say that the raucous nature of the home opening crowd.
It's number two for me.
is going to carry the Eagles over Kirk Cousins in prime time.
Can't bet against the Eagles playing Kirk Cousins at home in September in prime time.
You know, coming off the Achilles new system,
Eagles coming back from Brazil with a little bit of extra rest.
I'm taking the Eagles week two with a win over the Melvin.
That was number two.
I am with you there real quick.
I know we're going to have ample time this offseason
to discuss kind of league-wide over-unders and whatnot.
but 15, 30 seconds.
What do you make of the fact that the Panthers 13th and Super Bowl odds this year?
Yeah, and negative odds to win the division?
It feels very weird to me.
Is it confidence in Kirk?
Is it confidence in Rahim Morris?
Is it confidence in Kyle Pitts?
I was going to say, it's got to be Kyle Pitts.
All these people, they know that he's from right over there.
Yes, yes, that is true.
Yeah, it's weird.
I mean, I don't have a lot of confidence in the Falcons.
I mean, they're like if you, in the, like the madonization of their roster, like, you know, they've got interesting weapons on the outside and a quarterback that's interesting, but they still have, you know, real issues on defense and that offensive line is not great.
And I'm not so sure that I believe in Kirk Cousins down in Atlanta.
Well, if you don't believe in Kirk Cousins down in Atlanta, it's a good thing they took Michael Pennix.
But I will say, you know, I think Seth Walder, at ESPN does a really good job with, you know, how he looks at the data.
and he had something, this is, he found through, through data expected sack production,
and this concludes what, or this, it kind of supports or confirms what we talked about going
into the draft, but his data showed like Dallas Turner was clearly the top pass rusher,
right? And so Turner, who was not even the top pass rusher selected, but I would have more
confidence in the Falcons this year if they had someone like that rushing around the edge
than if they took Michael Pennix number eight.
Well, sure, but they didn't take Michael.
Penance for this year. I understand that, but I'm saying
if you're talking about this year's team, I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah, of course. If you told me
that, all right, their
defense has more
pass rush. They have Kirk Cousins
with these weapons. Now they're
there, okay, I can get kind of behind maybe
top half of the league in Super Bowl odds.
As it stands, that
surprises me a bit. Yeah, I agree.
So my number three here
I get to go with because you took my number two,
which is win at
New York Giants. And I
the Giants game, Week 18, is harder to judge because you don't know who's going to be playing that game.
But win at the Giants, I feel better about that.
I don't like this Giants team.
And although I do like Brian Burns, I think Sequin's going to be particularly motivated that day.
And I'm expecting that.
I wonder if the Giants, did you see the uniforms the Giants came out with today?
Yeah, very ugly.
It's like the Montreal Canadiens.
Yeah.
I mean, I respect the Habs, but not in football.
The Habb-Nots, says the joke has been made.
Oh, is that what the people have met that said,
who said that? Ah, okay.
Classy, though?
Well, 100 years, right?
So, but whenever you say classy,
it reminds me of the office episode with,
you know, with Jim talking about classy,
and he's in the tuxedo.
Okay.
100 years and like two total starts,
maybe even one for a black quarterback.
Yeah, I mean, that's not very,
that's not very good.
I mean, it's probably,
I was going to say it contributes to why they haven't had much success.
But no, I don't think that.
I think that's more kind of coincidental than anything else.
I disagree.
The fact that, I mean, they had Eli Manning for a decade plus,
won two super Bowls, but shortly there's been more than enough time for that.
I don't know.
I didn't expect to go down that rabbit hole.
But I think the Eagles win at the Giants, yes.
Okay.
I think that was the right pick there.
You need to get the Giants early season.
I'm going to go here
You know
Washington at home week 11 is an interesting one
But maybe you know
Those games tend to be a little bit odd
I'm going to say here
Give me week four at Tampa
A win for the Eagles
A house of horrors for them
But I feel like a little motivation
To you know
Get back after that
The playoff loss
I like I like
leaning into the early season a little bit because I think we know
the teams will be a little bit more like we think they're going to be.
So I'm going to take a week four win at Tampa Bay.
Interesting.
That was 17th on mine.
I didn't have much confidence in that game.
Yeah, it's just a weird game for me.
Now it's coming off.
It's back-to-back road games.
Yes.
Because they have New Orleans the week before.
But I think New Orleans is a more difficult place to play.
I thought about that as the pick instead.
But I think Tampa, I'm taking a win there.
but maybe that'll come back to bite me.
So then I am going with the W-Virce Washington on the Thursday night.
Now, the Thursday night out of this, week 11,
the Thursday night element of this,
maybe neutralizes it a bit,
but you're playing at home.
Eagles with a more talented team.
I feel confident in saying that.
So I would prefer if it was a Sunday to Sunday,
but I still like the Eagles in that game over there,
over the commanders.
Okay.
I'm going to bounce back on your commanders,
and I'm going to take Week 16 at Washington all the way in mid-December,
a place where the Eagles have obviously had much success.
Fair enough.
So I'm going with the first L here, and I'm going to loss at Baltimore.
Baltimore is the best team they play based on Super Bowl odds.
Baltimore is loaded.
I mean, I feel confident in that.
I'm selling Baltimore this year.
That's going to be a fun show because I'm buying Baltimore this year.
But the sequence of games, too, that comes after the Rams game.
So you have this, you get back.
Now, the Ravens also play actually.
They play Monday night.
They play Monday night in Los Angeles.
The Eagles play Sunday night in Los Angeles.
So both teams coming on on this West Coast East Coast.
And we haven't talked about this since the show last night.
We came out just when the Eagle schedule came out.
We hadn't had a chance to look at the whole picture.
but just in terms of the easiness of this schedule, you know, the week five buy is maybe not ideal,
but in addition to the slate of opponents, which is pretty easy, on paper at least,
not a single team they're playing is coming off of a buy.
And as we said, even this one little bit of difficult scheduling where they go to Los Angeles
and then have to play a road game, Baltimore is also going to Los Angeles the week before
and has a shorter week of rest, a shorter day of rest.
It's like the opposite of last year.
Right.
Right. And even last year, the advantage the Eagles had coming off the buy, Kansas City was also coming off a buy too, right? So, yeah, that's a good point. But the other thing I'll say is the Eagles played against the Rams this past year, beat the Rams, but they lose the Jets the following week, right? So maybe there's a residual. You get the carryover.
You get the carryover. So, yeah, I am going with the loss at Baltimore here.
Okay. Yeah, I think Baltimore is coming back to the pack a little bit.
Why?
Well, I think like the special sauce of that team last year was how awesome they were on defense.
And they lost Mike McDonald.
Well, Zachor?
You're not buying Zachor?
I am not buying Zachor.
I would buy Zachor.
As a plug and play.
De-coordinator?
Yeah.
He wasn't even their top choice.
Like they lost some of the other potential options there.
I like Zachor.
Okay.
That's fine.
You just like because his name is Zach?
No.
I've heard great things about Zach Orr since he was a player.
like the intelligence that he had, the way he played,
he's worked his way up through that system.
His career under prematurely because of injury.
But, yeah, and I like the talent that they have.
There's also, I think, some natural regression coming for them.
I think some motivation.
They should have won that.
They should have won the postseason game.
Now they get Derek Henry in there.
I know you don't believe in old running backs,
but I think you put Derek Henry with Lamar Jackson.
You're getting Zay Flowers in year three, right?
Or year two, year two for Zay Flowers.
You get Kyle Hamilton in year three.
They have some emerging players.
I like so, you know, they have some of these young pass rushers that are coming up.
Oda is in a contract year.
So like O'Day, rather, is in a contract year.
So like that team they have.
Okay.
Oda Faye OA.
Right?
Yeah.
Okay.
So I was wrong on both times.
Yes. Thanks for correcting me, Bo.
Yes.
Well, that's a little different.
It's getting a person's name correct.
I mean, he might be watching the show.
I hope he is.
I like them coming out when he was Jason.
And then I like him even more now when he's Odafe.
I am going to say, I'm going to take the win at New Orleans week three as my pick here.
As I said before, a difficult place to play.
but boy is the offensive personnel on that Saints team really ugly.
You know, Dennis Allen can put a good game plan together,
so that'll be interesting,
but I would feel pretty good about the Eagles going up in that game.
Interesting that they have this three-in-a-row slate of NFC South games
in the first four weeks of the season.
What do you make of the only two home games the first eight weeks of the season?
Two natural home games, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't like it for the – I mean, certainly for the fans, right?
Yeah, I was on...
Nice weather home games.
I was on Anthony's show today, and I said, October,
October is like my favorite time of year in Philly,
because it's my wife's birthday.
That's why I had to make sure...
What a romantic.
Yeah, quite a romantic.
And she deserves it a whole birthday month, right?
So her birthday's on October 1st,
and it just kind of brings in this great month.
I'm really trying to make up for that Valentine's Day, but that's true.
So she's not even watching today's show, unfortunately.
Hopefully she'll get a second long handwritten note for this birthday.
Well, she gets handwritten notes for everything.
But the joke here is I once gave her, I have a stationery that says my name on it,
and I didn't buy a card.
I wrote like a two-page letter on the stationery, but it's like because it wasn't the $499
Hallmark card, it's invalidated.
Like, I think it actually means more.
I think the note that I write means more than with the note someone in the Hallmark
Office is right.
And do both.
You can buy a card.
You don't get the same volume of space.
Well, yeah, but there's no, but to defend Emily here, if you go out and buy a card, it's like,
oh, you were thinking of her to buy a card to go along with the message.
If you're just sitting in your office and plumbing from your stationery, that didn't take a lot of effort.
What about what I'm writing?
So how about this?
Like, the Mother's Day card I had, I got this great card, a funny message in there.
But the space that has the right, you know, it has.
has, like, different colors and it's, like, perforated.
I can't write, like, a three-paragraph note with all that's going on there.
Interesting.
You've never had to deal with a word count before?
Well, I have so much good things.
I have so many good things to say.
I have so much to say, right?
Yeah, I mean, she's worth three books, not just three paragraphs, but thank you, Joy.
Bowie didn't have the same reaction to that one.
Anyways.
I look forward to the third book that's coming out from the...
with the Zach Berman.
Here we go.
So I will go with the...
I'm going to double down...
I like the...
There's some funny chats.
From the desk of Zach Berman.
Happy Valentine's Day.
You know what?
I'm going to double down on the Giants here.
Week 18?
So much could be interesting.
But you know what?
With the...
With today's NFL, with...
With today's NFL, the fact that...
It's like woke culture, just run amok today.
This cancel culture?
No, I'm saying seating.
There's more incentive now in seating.
So you're typically playing for more in the final week of the season.
So I am going with that.
Maybe the division's still up for grabs.
I also, I just want to index against the Giants, right?
Bruce Feldman at the Athletic has a great piece up right now on,
like the quarterbacks who could emerge next year for top of the draft, I would suggest
Giants fans read that.
Wow.
Yeah.
Snap.
Who do you like?
I mean, we're going to have a lot of time to get into that.
Well, I mean, we're here today.
People talk about Carson Beck, right?
Curious to see.
Terrible name.
Carson, I'm curious to see how how Carson Beck is.
A lot of hype for Shador Sanders.
There's a few other names that I will get into.
I need to do more work on these guys.
during the off-season.
If you're looking for someone who could emerge,
maybe it's a Garrett Nussmeyer, right?
From LSU, I mean, this time last year,
people weren't talking about Jaden Daniels being the number two pick in the draft,
and now Garrett Nussmeier's waited his term there.
He's in that offense.
That could be a name.
Bowes-boy Mason Moss.
We'll see how he plays.
Honestly, don't even remember that.
That's the USC guy?
Yeah, USC guy.
You hated the name.
Terrible name.
But, yeah, I mean,
there's guys all over the place that.
I'll give you one guy to watch,
and that's Jackson Dart at Ole Miss.
A bit of a dark throw.
I'm curious to see how he plays.
I believe that's a J-A-X-S-O-N.
J-A-X-S-O-N.
You like that?
I do, but I kind of prefer,
if you're going with the X,
just go straight to the O.
Ah, you're right.
You don't need the son in there.
Yeah.
You're not Jack.
Yeah, okay.
I'm cool with that.
The X.
So maybe his dad's name is Jackson,
and so he's Jack's son.
The X could suffice there.
Yeah, he was the national player of the year.
He was a high school prospect.
coming out of Utah, and he commits to USC when Clay Helton was there, and then Lincoln Riley takes
over, brings Caleb Williams with him, so he had the transfer.
Well, he had a good year last year.
I think Ole Miss was 11 and 2 last year.
I would pay attention to Jackson Dart.
Yeah, and interestingly, of course, my brother's favorite Mortal Kombat character was Jacks.
Oh, is that right?
Yeah, so it's all connected.
It's all connected.
There you go.
I'm taking the week 15 home game against the Pittsburgh Steelers as a win for the Eagles.
Kenny Pickett Revenge game.
And, of course, he will hand the ball to Tanner McKee, as I wrote about in the all-P-H-L-L-Y game-by-game prediction.
Yeah, I'm not super in on this Steelers team.
I'm usually buying the Steelers, but with Russell Wilson at the helm, as much as I love his baseball swing,
I like the Eagles at home against the Steelers.
Yeah, so Bose pandering to the crowd here, only going with wins.
I'm going to go with a loss at Cincinnati.
Cincinnati is above the Eagles right now in Super Bowl odds.
By the way, you predicted the Eagles to win more games than I did.
Because you had the tying Cincinnati?
Yes.
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on your own for dinner tonight?
People want to know.
Yeah.
This is not backlash
from the Valentine's Day.
No, Sloan has dance class
and she has a big recital coming this weekend.
We've got a baseball game for Reed.
And so I say,
Reed, what do you want for dinner?
He wants fast food.
I'm trying to stay away from fast food.
So I would rather just kind of put a butcher box steak on the grill,
knock that out in 10 minutes.
It's waiting for me when I get home.
It's great.
And you're going to put that Montreal seasoning on because you're on your own.
Yes, it's just for me.
Exactly.
There you go.
Good question here from Sotchen, who says,
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Not as important in this new outfit.
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All right, Zach, I'm going to go.
against the grain here.
Again, the Eagles are favorite to win,
but I've gone on the record as saying,
I think the Eagles are going to lose in Brazil.
Jordan Love is going to take them down a peg to start the season.
So I'm going to take a loss in week one
to the Green Bay Packers with my next pick.
My first loss on the board.
First loss on the board.
Okay.
Just to update here, I'll tell you what's left.
Week 6 versus Cleveland, week 9 versus Jacksonville,
Week 10 at Dallas, week 12 at Los Angeles, and week 17 versus Dallas.
So I'm going to go here with Jacksonville, a win against Jacksonville.
I like this Jags team.
Doug Peterson, you know it's going to be motivated.
He was motivated last time, and the Eagles won.
So I think the Eagles have more talent than the Jags, and they're playing at home.
So give me Nick Siriani's group.
Do you think Bill Belichick will be at that game?
No.
Why would Bill Belichick be at that game?
Well, it's a Sunday night game, all eyeballs on it.
You've got the most recent Eagles coach, the current Eagles coach, and then the next Eagles coach.
Nick's going to keep this job.
Well, for now.
Well, not forever.
Sure.
Yes.
Okay.
I'm going to go ahead.
I'm going to take the continued string of losses in Arlington for the Eagles.
Haven't won since 2017.
Week 10 at Dallas
I will give the Eagles another loss
there with my next pick
That leaves
Week 6 versus Cleveland
Week 12 at Los Angeles
And week 17 at Dallas
The last one we're going to have to go opposite ways on
I'll go win versus Cleveland
I do like this Browns team
I like the roster they have
I would never do that too
I like their offensive line play
especially number 68
actually
I'd bring
bring up read a lot on the show. It seems like his like most prized possession is a Michael
Dunn autographed helmet that's like sits like front and center next to his bed. Yeah. And he is,
he's so proud of that. And if I pull out, I haven't pulled out the Madden controller quite a bit
or in quite a while, but if I, because Ree's always on it, but if I like pulled out during the
summer and I open up the Madden rosters, Michael Dunn's 100 in our game or 99 in our game.
What did he do? Make him 18 years old?
No, he didn't change the age, but he did change all the rating.
So, yeah, Michael's got great speed for an offensive line.
Love that.
Yeah, but no, in all seriousness, I think this game's going to be close.
I like what the Browns have on defense.
I think Schwartz is a good coordinator, and I think Stifansky is a really good coach.
But I think the Eagles have the edge of quarterback right now.
And I think the Eagles have the edge at scale positions, even though I really like the move for Jerry Judy.
Great job by Andrew Barry there.
But still, I'm taking...
Is it Jerry Judy or Judy Jerry Jerry?
It's definitely Jerry Judy.
It's not spelled J-U-D-Y.
It's spelled J-E-U-D-Y.
It could still be Judy.
Could still be Judy, but it's Jerry Judy.
Okay.
All right, I will close my portion out here
with a win in week 12
against the Los Angeles Rams on the road.
I know that it's difficult
when you go to that stadium
and you get sort of overwhelmed
and overcome with the natural beauty
of SoFi Stadium and like how can I even focus on football when these these windows are so clear
and it's very difficult it's like a portal to heaven when you look up in the sky at SoFi Stadium
but it's translucent that's why yeah but I think the Eagles will be able to overcome an injured
Rams team and when that came did you see um this clip going around with Sean McVeigh
Yeah.
I mean, look, I'd give him credit there, but I would think a coach should be able to remember these specifics from the games.
Yeah, like, there are a couple of them that are, that are, it's cool that he remembers them.
But a lot of them are like, yeah, they seem like table stakes in this idea that he is like, this savant on remembering stuff, I think is a little bit overstated.
The one that I'll give him credit for is the top three receivers in Packers history.
Because that's just like a student of the game.
Yeah.
You know, I probably wouldn't have put James Lawton in the top three there.
I might have had Devante Adams in there.
But, yeah, he had Donald Driver, James Lofton.
Yeah, he had driver Sterling Sharp.
So, but I see this circulating.
It's like, this guy is the most amazing thing.
Like, he called the play.
I mean.
Well, he called the play.
He also, like, how many times has he rewatched that play?
Sure, exactly.
Any play that they have run.
he has watched a hundred times.
Exactly.
So, yeah, if you ask...
And he's the one designing the language, right?
Exactly, yes.
I wasn't, like, so blown away by that.
I sometimes think that if somebody uses football terms, we get, like, really impressed,
but that's the language that he speaks, right?
So him reciting the play, that's just the language that he speaks.
That's not, like, really impressive in my view.
Taking him down a peg.
Nice.
All right, last one, Zach.
Week 17, Home versus Dallas.
You get to pick which side you're taking and I'll take the other side.
Give me win versus Dallas at home.
All right.
So I'm forced into the loss there and that means that your lineup, Zach, you have a win over Cleveland,
a win over the Giants in week seven on the road, a loss at Cincinnati, a win at home against the Jags,
a win in week 11 against the commanders, a loss in week 13.
at Baltimore, a win against Carolina in week 14,
a win over Dallas in week 17,
and a win in the season finale at home against the Giants.
I've got a loss in week one versus the Packers in Brazil,
three straight wins after that versus Atlanta at home against,
or on the road against New Orleans, on the road against Tampa,
a loss in week 10 at Dallas, a win at Los Angeles,
back-to-back wins home against Pittsburgh in week 15,
and then on the road at Washington in week 16,
and then in the toss-up, I have the loss,
week 17 versus Dallas.
We're going to track this over the course of the year,
see who gets a nice busty cheese steak out of it.
Yeah, you know what, let's just agree to food chasers then, maybe.
I'm cool with that, because I'll take a food chaser steak.
Okay.
And look forward to winning.
That was fun.
All right.
Go ahead and get on your soapbox and defend the money grubbing owners
for their avarice.
I'm not defending the owners here.
There's this idea that,
oh, it's on all these streaming networks, the NFL.
It's a product, yeah, it's becoming,
it's at a point where, all right, here,
let me just come back up here.
I'm not, I can understand everyone's, you know,
tolerance for spending is different,
and I'm not judging in any way.
But if you think about, like, you're not committing to a year for some of these things.
You can sign up for Netflix for a month, right?
Buy the, you know, by the game.
You pay $25 for one football game?
This is besides the point, though.
It's like, this is what I'm saying.
In 2024 and going into 2025, people consume content, okay, via streaming services.
A lot of people don't subscribe the cable.
They only actually subscribe to cable typically.
I know a lot of people subscribe to cable just to watch live sports.
Okay, but these, but so the games are in are on different streaming networks.
That's just the, that's, that's where, that's how most people are consuming content.
I actually think the people who are complaining about this are the people who are like institutionalized to expect to just get the show, you know, the just get shows in like one spot.
I think a lot of people have cut the cord and subscribe to different streaming networks, and they kind of pick and choose over the course of time.
But if you just think about it, if you go to the bar and get a beer for $5 or you go to a coffee shop and you get coffee for $3, right?
Getting a game for $8.99 a month is not that outrageous for three hours of entertainment value.
It's really not that outrageous.
I'm not like you don't have to commit to the year maybe you go around you find great programming but besides the point this is like a supply and demand thing okay there's a demand there's a demand for content it behooves the networks to do this if you look at what you would pay in a bundling situation you're probably not that much off here number one and number two yeah if like I say this about um you know paying for uh
a newspaper online or something like that.
I've always said this, is that if you want a quality product,
you've got to pay for the-
Oh, that is a totally different situation.
So here you go.
So just because for X amount of years, you've watched the game one way,
which, by the way, you're probably paying the same net amount.
I don't think that works out, but go ahead.
Not, I mean, if, so, and for most of these games, too, aren't they available locally?
the fans? Like the Eagles game
is available locally to fans, right?
So if you're in
Philly but you want to watch
what the Ravens
against the Texans on Christmas Day
and you have to pay for a month
of Netflix to do it,
I think like, okay, that's
the, it's inconvenient
relative to what it's been, but that's
the way the industry is going.
But that's not the point. That's
the problem.
It's such an antiquated idea to think,
Oh, you know what?
I just want to sit there and just have everything over cable.
This is like...
But it doesn't have to be that way.
It's, it is, it is, this, the problem is, you're right that this is the way things are going,
but it is a, an enormous problem that the ecosystem of like every business in America right now
is that making things a little bit less convenient for the user in exchange for a
little bit of extra money is what everybody's doing. And it's, it sucks. It's not great to have to go,
to have nine different streaming services to watch a game. And if I, if I put on this
streaming service, I have to watch the game. I can't, you know, flip the channels or whatever.
Like, that's fine. But like, nothing is done in service of the user. I have to change my
hour. I know that you're Mr. Big Business and everybody needs all the money that they can get. The CEOs
need their, need their money. First of all, this is the CEOs here. This is like, it's the owners. It's
the owners get a little bit of extra money.
It's not even the owners, you know, who wants it this way, okay?
It's these companies who are trying to create value for their streaming services.
It's competitive.
If you're Comcast and you own and you own Peacock.
It's their little dick measuring contest, their little pissing match and everybody else has to suffer.
So, but if the alternative is that you're, like, so I'm saying, what's the alternative?
the way it was 20 years ago.
You want everything the way it was 20 years ago, right?
This is, and for some reason, people only say this about football, all right?
If a show that you like, if you like watching Succession, but that's on Max, okay?
And you subscribe to Max.
You're not like, why do I have to watch Succession on Max?
But then I have to watch Players on Paramount.
And I have to watch Dave on Hulu, right?
the yeah but but you're okay with it being in like hollywood that that way because you're used to
I think that sucks too you're but you're you're used to that because you've become institutionalized
to these things being on different networks you were institutionalized to football just being
on on over you know on on your regular television set and I'm saying in 2024 it is changing
it's inconvenient but you know what it was probably inconvenient
the first time you had to find something on Netflix.
And then it becomes part of your everyday practice.
And then like anything else, you can decide where you allocate your resources.
So if it means you buy three less beers at the bar, but three fewer beers at the bar,
thank you for correcting me.
That was very pertinent right there.
Three fewer bars, three fewer beers at the bar, but you get to watch a football game at home.
If you took Casey to the movies to see Jurassic Park 4 or whatever, okay, that's going to cost you $25.
Okay?
Instead, you can watch football with Casey at home for less money, not if you were less money than that.
Well, he has no interest.
Okay.
But my point is that, like, I get it's inconvenient.
I also recognize that, like, is, A, it's a market economy, but beyond that, this is how entertainment is.
is distributed in 2024.
Yeah, but that sucks.
It sucks that all the different things are bifurcated like that.
It sucks that everything is streaming.
It sucks that it's only like big budget movies being made and there's no independent
movies.
Like the ecosystem of media and the way that sports are disseminated, it sucks.
Just because it is how it is doesn't mean that we can't complain about it.
You're longing for something that, like you're longing for a pastime because it was easier for you.
longing for the corporations to better serve their customers.
That's what I'm longing for.
So literally what they're doing is they're better serving the...
They're better serving their stakeholders.
No, they're better serving their customers.
If you're a customer of Netflix, you're better serve...
You have more value now that there's a football game on there.
It's the same thing as the NFL, like, flex scheduling Thursday night games, right?
Like, the fans don't matter if they can make a little bit more money.
So we're arguing different things.
Like you're saying that they're trying to screw over the customers.
What they're trying to do, what each of these places are trying to do is provide value for their customers.
Well, the streaming services, not the NFL.
The NFL is making things harder.
No, no, so that's what I'm saying.
The NFL is doing what they've always done.
Their rights are available for places to buy.
There's just more competition in the marketplace to buy this.
you would prefer just three networks bidding for this, and now there's five, you know,
there's eight different companies bidding for this.
That's, that's my point.
The NFL is not, not doing this.
It's, it's that now Netflix is getting involved and Amazon's getting involved and Comcast via
peacock's getting involved.
So, yeah, I get no one's on my side because Bo is, it's like saying, man, don't you
wish that you can just call me on my landline?
that was so much easier.
It's not like that.
Right?
You know.
No, because the cell phone makes things more convenient for us.
It makes things easier.
I can look something up on my phone, you know, or whatever, and I can call people and I can
FaceTime my family.
Like, that's great.
That helps me.
That makes my life easier.
This stuff does not.
And a 20, there's a 23-year-old out there and says, you know what's much easier is subscribing
to something in one click over the internet and having access to it instead of having
the cable guy come to my.
house and then I have to get a TV and I have to get the whole house wire.
You're arguing for streaming over.
It is not easier for that guy to have to have nine different apps to watch a show.
I have to get this approved by my landlord for, no, the cable that makes it so convenient.
I have to wait four days for this person to come and then I have to get, and he can only
install it here because this is where the landlord allows the wiring of the go.
Whereas now, you know what, I can pull out my phone and I can subscribe right now and I can be
sitting during great time at work watching the game of my phone.
But the choice is not to have it streaming versus not streaming.
The choice is to have it streaming on nine different things.
I remember when I could just watch it on CBS and I could have John Madden and Pat Summerall.
Who's the age as now?
And I can have John Madden and Pat Summerall.
And oh, I wish it was just like it was in the old days when there was only on three channels.
Come on.
You know, a vulver die, right?
I would say, you know...
You're arguing for something I'm not arguing against.
If you don't like change, you'll hate irrelevance.
Right? That's kind of what I'm going to say.
I'd rather be in progress than in Congress.
So anyway...
How's the chat fairing on all of this?
They're on both side here.
Yeah, it's not one click.
You've made the case for things being streamable
and not the bifurcation of all of them.
but that's okay.
And yet for all of that bootlicking,
Roger still didn't hook you up on the Nick's wedding weekend.
Again, you're, first of, the NFL is doing what they've always done.
The NFL's always made their rights available.
It's just there's more, there's more competition in the marketplace for those rights.
Like that, I think that's like the only difference here.
I haven't explained this well, okay?
I should have come with a more sufficient argument.
But what I will say is that,
The NFL, the NBA, like the leagues aren't doing anything different.
The only thing that's different is the people bidding for it.
It used to be three networks bidding for it.
And even before Fox got, you know, it used to be four networks.
It were three, then four, ESPN would get in.
ABC.
Yeah.
Now there's just more competition and with more competition.
And if you look at like the top 50 programs last year, I think 48 of them were football.
So it behooved.
The other two were the Ospreys.
I would say one could wish
But Christopher says
I'm over this because Zibi doesn't want to listen to Bo
All right
You know what I can't win this
So I'm just gonna
I'm just gonna move on a day
I think we're at 1 o'clock as it is
So we'll be back tomorrow
Yes
Wait does someone say I'm on Zach side
Or wait wait wait what did Rohit say
Can we scroll down a little bit
Roit is saying that
Most people have Netflix which is true
Yeah I mean
So wait, so what's your objection?
I am listening. I'm not talking over you.
Your objection is the volume of places that have it.
Because, yeah, the NFL probably could have said,
all right, we're going to put these packages in,
and three places are bidding for it instead of,
what the NFL's done where you can say it's greed,
and I would agree with you,
is they're selling Christmas as a standalone package.
Right, little one-offs, yes.
And I'll agree there.
That doesn't benefit the customers, right?
So where I will concede the argument is that it's spread over too many places.
Yeah, that's the point.
I don't have an issue what I'm saying with streaming services buying rights to games.
Yeah, I think it would be nice if they were larger packages.
Okay, yeah, I will agree with that.
Like the Amazon Prime Thursday Night game is a little bit of an inconvenience, but that's a full package of games.
You know, that's not the worst thing in the world.
So as I'm talking.
I do find things like a playoff game only being available on Peacock, like just as a nephew to people.
Like, that's ridiculous.
But so my, so that's where I haven't argued this well.
Believe it or not, that's not the first time that's happened, okay?
As we're talking about this, I'm in agreement that by, by split, by selling, you know, Christmas to this and what's some of the other ones that they have?
Black Friday to this.
so the Black Friday's part of Prime.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, that doesn't benefit the customers.
Where I disagree is the idea that it should only be on CBS and Fox because this is how it's
always been.
Because there was a time, by the way.
Nobody was making that argument.
Yeah, because people don't like that.
You have to find it on a streaming service.
There was a time when things went on cable and the argument was how could you put
this game on cable?
And then, you know what happens?
More people get cable.
It becomes more ubiquitous.
And then that becomes institutional.
So my point is that the fact that streaming services get involved in it,
that's just the way the world is right now.
That's the way content is consumed.
If the NFL did not do that, if the NFL said all we're going to do is be on broadcast TV,
then frankly, they would not be reaching their customers.
Yeah, because people complain for, like you said,
why do I have to subscribe to Peacock to watch a game?
And the reason is because, like, yeah, you're not just going to watch.
watch it on network TV anymore.
Things have changed.
Okay.
Now I will give you your chance to explain to everybody why Labor Day should be canceled.
No, you know what I'm going to do for now on?
I actually thought about this on the ride home last night because I did not like the way
that show ended.
Whenever you ask me like a peck next to Migrator question, I'm going to say, how about you?
So here's an example, by the way.
We had a show on Monday when Beau asked me about my weekend.
I said, how was your weekend?
And you're like, it was fine.
Well, you could answer that way too.
Why you asked me that, you know?
I think that's what you said.
You're like, why you ask me that?
I don't need to tell you what I did this weekend.
Right.
That was exactly your reaction.
You're like, yeah, it was fine.
Let's go to the show.
Okay.
But, yeah.
But then if there's something, but then when I, when you tell me that give every detail
my brother's wedding and I'm like, I'm like, I'd rather not speak about it because
it's not my story to tell you.
How can, what?
You can't tell what's going on.
You know, you, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you,
I'm not telling you to say where it is, but you can give the date.
You can give who it is.
It's like, yeah.
You're right.
Good for you for standing up for yourself.
You finally caught on to that.
Yeah, I was thinking about that.
But, yeah.
So you don't want to go, you don't want to go in your anti-labor?
No.
Rant?
No.
I was, so I said I should have migrated the Labor Day.
And I think what my argument was is that I actually think a floating.
holiday would be more beneficial to the laborer than just the first Monday in September.
I actually think that it'd be great for students if they can just go to school on the first
Monday in September as opposed to school starting like the day after Labor Day or some
school start Wednesday after Labor Day. Just start the first Monday in September for school.
Sometimes people like don't want off that first Monday in September, but they would rather
have off a Wednesday in February when things are, when things are particular busy, or they
haven't had a day off in some time, right?
I don't think that would ever, it would not work that way.
Like, if you give people a floating holiday, first of all, the part of the problem is you're
then balancing it against, like, what your work needs are.
If everybody has the day off, then you know that you're not missing out on, like,
you're not going to be having to catch up on something, right?
Yeah.
Like the incentivization of when you're going to take.
take those days is different. You can also, that's what days off are for. Well, but also here,
so I know every job's different, but by and large, those who get vacation time with their jobs,
a lot of them take vacation during the summers, right? That's, that's, that's not me speaking as a
football writer. If you just look at vacation data, vacations are typically taking during the summers,
kids don't have school, that kind of thing, right? The first September, the first Monday,
and September is kind of after a period when people might have taken vacation a few weeks ago
or a month ago, two months ago. But if it's in February, if it's in May, it might be a little
different for them. Also, I just think about it. Just move it. You want to just move it to October?
No, I think the floating Labor Day. Also, I think that's a bad idea. Yeah, I love the work.
I mean, how else are we supposed to know when to stop wearing white?
Is that like the World Memorial Day to Labor Day? Is that thing? Yeah, you're more of the
fashionista than I am.
I know that's right.
You can probably tell by that shirt you wore yesterday, yes.
All right, that'll do it for this wonderful episode of the P.H.O.
My Eagles podcast.
Thanks to everybody for watching and listening.
We've got an old school remote show tomorrow.
We're 2 o'clock?
2.30?
What did we say?
I think 2.30.
2.30.
Because we're not overlapping with sixers.
We're not overlapping with the Sixers.
So Joy, at what time?
The Sixers are at one tomorrow?
No, sixers are at 2.30.
Oh, so we're at four.
we're what
oh we're two
we're on for two
I think we're not overlapping
with the Sixers I think that was the
objective
3 30 okay
well we talk about
screwing over the customer
they know where to go
but they have no idea what time to go
we will be on YouTube
and we'll put it in our social media
I apologize we're adjusting it
on my behalf I have something with my daughter
tomorrow and what is the super chat
we have here Julia
Jill in all damn
He says greed, greed, greed,
ZB is right, institutionalized greed.
I feel like that's conflicting, but that's okay.
All right, good stuff.
Nice draft, nice competition.
Congratulations to Zach for winning the
Immaculate Grid Tic-Tac Toc and a nice little heated discussion.
Well, good stuff.
That'll do it for this episode of the PHLWI Eagles podcast.
Thanks everybody for watching and listening.
Thank you to Julia.
We will talk to you tomorrow at
some point who knows when and as always we love you.
