PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - PHLY Eagles Podcast | Howie Roseman role play: Five offseason moves we’d make for the Philadelphia Eagles

Episode Date: March 1, 2024

Free agency is just over a week away and the Eagles have a lot of decisions to make. Will they trade Haason Reddick? Can they add an impact player at linebacker, safety and cornerback? Is A.J. Brown here for good? This is Howie Roseman’s time to shine.Zach Berman and Bo Wulf take turns running through some of the moves they’d make over the next month if they were in Howie Roseman’s expensive shoes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

For the P. H.L.Y. Eagles show, Bowulf, Zach Berman. On a Friday, lots to talk about. We are going to get into some of the moves that we would make. If we were Howie Roseman, Zach, put on our, our Howie Roseman shoes, expensive shoes, probably. But there's some Eagles news to get to. How are you, first of all? Doing well, happy to be here. Excited for what's ahead, the show in these next few weeks. Yeah, the Eagles news. Well, I should say, how are you? The Eagles news is how am I? How are you? I am well. There you go. How are you? Okay.

The Eagles news. Relax. Take it easy, my man. It's Friday. The Eagles news. This came out a few minutes before. It's as expected, but credit to Adam Schaefter, for reporting it first.

Kevin Byard is being released when I say the as expected because the Eagles are going to save 13 million, I believe, in cap space by doing it. Yeah, I mean, this is one of the first. the most obvious moves possible for them to make, but yes. So we had talked about in the stay or go rankings. If he came back, it would be under a new deal because it's not, it wouldn't be under the previous deal. So he's released.

He gets to go elsewhere or if the market's not there and he wants to stay home, come back at a lower price. But the Kevin Byrd era with Eagles might be finished pretty quickly. So if you were the back page editor at the erstwhile Daily News, would you have gone with Kevin Goodbyard or Kevin by Byrd? I would defer to you with that. You're good at those headlines, but probably by B-Y-E-H-A-R-D. It's the one.

Yes, the one. It pops a little more. Okay. You don't need the first name in the back page headline. Yeah, but it's less funny. It's less esoteric. It's more obvious, yeah. You prefer the esoteric.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, listen, they didn't give up much to get him. Nope. He probably underwhelmed relative to their expectations. And this, you know, the contract structure, this was pretty easy. Decision-wise. I'm sorry. You're looking at me like I like, I'm horns on my head.

I'm listening to you. Speak. I'm making eye contact. Should I just be looking at the camera while you're speaking? You're scaring me a little bit. Scaring you with eye contact? Yeah. Isn't that a, like Rule 101 when someone's speaking, make eye contact with them?

Yeah, but in like a, in like a congenial way, not in a like terrifying robotic way, which is trying to like look through my soul. My eye contact is terrifying? Right now, I think it is. I'm sorry. I was taught when I was a kid. And you got this, you got the straight posture. You're freaking me out.

I was taught when I was a. did at the end of every conversation you should know the color of someone's eyes right because that means you're making eye contact but that means you're just you're just like looking at their eyes and just trying to you're not listening you're just staring into their eyes you can listen and look at someone's eyes at the same time honestly if you would ask me before the show started today what color are your eyes I would not have had a good answer you know what color my eyes are uh black eyes are blue okay Let's get on with the show.

Yeah, all right. Do you think, now let me ask you this, because this was the most obvious cap decision. Yes. Do you expect more of these in the coming days? And I think specifically the one that is most interesting is Avanti Maddox. Good point. I think that the outward releases I would expect in the coming days.

But I think some of those like the Avanti Maddox types, where maybe there's a renegotiation, I think that stretches closer to the start of the league year because the players weighing what, you know, the agents come back from the combine, they have a sense of players' markets, right? Their agent, they're weighing what they would get on the open market versus what that restructured contract is.

And also the raising of the cap means there's less, there's no crunch to get under the cap before the league year starts, right? You know, for Montemax, you can work longer on what kind of, you know, restructure you might want to do if he wants to stick around. Sure. I think the, the moves that I would expect in the coming days, and when I say coming days, it's somewhat liberal, like in the next week and a half, up to the start of the league year, and really up to the start of the tampering period, is the decision on Jason Kelsey and the decision on Fletcher Cox because the Eagles...

Well, the decision from them rather than on them. From them. And we all remember the scene in the Kelsey documentary where he's wrestling with the decision by the start of the league year. And I don't think it's as if the Eagles are giving him a deadline. But he feels a responsibility. Yeah. And I think the Eagles have,

they'll have a path to pursue this offseason without Kelsey and a path to pursue with Kelsey, right? Because you know what your cap dollars are one way or the other. But my guess is that Kelsey's not coming back and that there would be an announcement before the start of the league year accordingly. And with Fletcher Cox as well? With Fletcher Cox as well, yes.

Okay. Now, before we get into playing general manager, this is a big day for you, you're going to be playing head coach. Well, yeah. My son is starting football, loves football, and he starts football, and we got an email two weeks ago with the team assignments,

and they needed a coach. They didn't have anyone volunteer to be the coach. And I didn't want to do. do it at first and my schedule isn't really conducive for it during this time of year. Geez. No, no, I'm saying like, I'm, there's... Mr. Important over here. Between the NFL draft is on a night of the game.

The owner's meetings would conflict with a game. There's a family obligation in there at the night of a game. You don't want to be a head coach and miss half the games on the calendar. Right? That's what I mean. A baseball, T-ball is more conducive for my... He's at baseball, not T-ball now. But that, I'm helping out with a few other dads and that coaching because I know outside of

that Saturday of the draft, then I will be there. But the schedule for this did not work out. But anyways, I raised my hand because my son wanted me to do it. They needed someone to step up. And I've... So I've been to a lot of football practices, you know. Yes. And I can run a football practice.

I'm confident in that. Interesting. And I have some good play designs. But they're six years old. And I'm, I don't know the kids and I don't know the skill. Like my son, for instance, I know this is the first time he's ever playing organized football.

So this is flag football. Flag football. Yes. And it's like official NFL flag football. So there's rules. And I've studied the rules. and I have a playbook, and I've organized what tonight's practice outline would be,

but I really think what tonight is is essentially going to be like glorified trial. I need to know who can be my quarterback, who can actually snap the ball, who's going to be my blitzer on defense. Like there's a handful of things I need to figure out before we get to the actual technical aspects. And I do wonder if I have to...

There's blitzing? Yeah, there's a pass rush one of the four downs. Okay. It's kind of like when you play in the recess, And you get it. Yeah, okay. So, but you need to figure that out. And so we, we need to do the fundamentals here.

But as Nick Siriani would tell you, connect is a core value. Have you thought about your core values? I'd love to know your five core values. Yeah. I actually have not specifically worked on the core values. I should, I should get to that. Eye color, number one. That is not.

No, but I, we have to do the icebreaker at the top of the. You're going to do an Oklahoma drill to start things off? No, I want them to know their teammates. I was actually thinking the first thing we got to do is work on, like, putting the flag on and then knowing how to rip the flag off because. Yeah, I agree. That's pretty fundamental to the, yeah, I agree. Exactly. So it'll probably be a glorified game of tag at the beginning.

Oh, I like that. It's a good way to start. Yeah. Exactly. They get comfortable with that. And then we'll go from there. but I have a like I mean it's not mine it's a 46 page playbook that I downloaded for flag football wow and I circled the plays that I think would work and the plays that were taking out of the

playbook and I want to kind of introduce like 15 plays on offense at 15 plays on defense to get us to get us up like a lot of plays 15 on each 30 plays for six year olds yeah okay maybe five and five yeah that seems more realistic I don't want to tell you, you're the coach. Don't let me. Is it okay if I show up to practice with a long pole with a boxing glove on the end of it? Heavy. Well, you got to get your clearances first.

Okay. So, yeah, you got to make sure you're able to coach the kids. Yes. Yes. Okay. Well, I look forward to this ongoing saga over the course of the next couple months. This will be fun to keep track of. All right, Zach, let's get into the business at hand here.

Now, I got to say this, so what we're doing, we've each come up with five moves. that we would make if we were Halley Roseman before the draft. So this does not incorporate the draft, although the draft is part of your decision-making process, right? If you think, okay, I'm not going to fill the cornerback position because I know that come to draft, I plan to draft a corner with one of those, you know, three picks in the first two rounds.

But you have to obviously address the roster in free agency without knowing what's going to happen in the draft. So that's part of the process. And I got to say, like, you know, this was a, like, 12 hour 16 hour exercise for us since the end of yesterday's show and you know I wish I had

I wish I had a whole week it's also like this is fun like I imagine that if you are in the you know in the room where it happens as it were when you're going through these these planning meetings like that's got to be about as fun a part of the job as it gets aside from like you know when the team is winning on Sundays

like this is what it's all about I agree with you it made me very jealous of like the room where they're talking these things through. And I have a confession to make. This was two and a half weeks ago. And Emily comes down and she sees me holding a controller. And she's like, you're playing video games right now? What are you doing? And I'm like, I'm actually doing stuff for work. And she looked at me very quizzically. And what I was doing is I was going through the Madden off seasons as an exercise to prepare for not specifically this, but for, for, for,

For full disclosure, I have something coming up in next week. I'm going to coordinate it with when your stuff comes out, which I do every year, which is a 10-step, like a 10-step guide to the offseason. If I were Hallie Roseman, this is how I would do it. And that includes, like, the draft leading up to the season contracts. But so this is, this is a part of that exercise. But I, that was kind of a primer on some of the free agents and some of the, um, strategy involved there.

Now, I know that you can roll your eyes and say it's, it's madden, but it was just a thought exercise because you're four. forced to be in that position. Okay, if this player signs, what's the rest of the board look like, that kind of thing. How does the office isn't working bad these days? Is there like a running clock? Is there like, uh, how does it, you know, how does free agency work? Yeah, well, so you can tag players and then, yeah. And that seems pretty obvious. Okay. And then you get, there's the resigning period and then you get to the free agency period. And there are three weeks, but within each week, there's three evaluation periods.

So you can, so let's say week one, you can put five offers in. And then you can, before you advance to the next week, there's three rounds of those five offers. And then week two, it goes to 10 offers. And then week three is unlimited amount of offers. Interesting. Yeah. Okay. Super chat from real time who's asked the question that we asked, does Zach Berman have five core values for the kids?

So by Monday, maybe you'll be back with the core value. for us. I'll circle back on that. All right. Would you like to go first since you had your Yeah, well, no, I do have something I just want to jump off with that at the start. Yeah. Which is free agent rules, if you will, like five kind of homemade rules that I think about because this is really focused on free agency and this is something I'm going to apply for all my stories. It is number one, don't pay for a career year. Okay. When I look at the free agents where the Eagles hit, Connor Bartwin was coming off a three sack season, two years before he had a double-digit sack season. Malcolm Jenkins was coming off a tough year in New Orleans.

Brandon Brooks was coming off a little bit of a down year in Houston. So I don't like to pay for the career year. Number two, and this is... There are guys who would qualify for that, like Patrick Queen, for instance, would be a career. Yeah, yeah, and we'll get to that, obviously, in the thing. I don't want to steal any year of thunder. And then also, we should say next week, we're also going through a lot of these options. We're getting down and duty on everybody next week.

Number two, and this is the Bo Wolf rule. This is in honor of Bo and it's something that he's said for our long-time listeners, you know this well. You have to ask why. Being handsome. Oh, sorry. Yeah, why is he available? Why is the player available?

So you have to look, is it the money that the team already has allocated at the position? Is it a scheme problem? Is it if a team's tight on cap space? But if there's a team that's letting a young player walk and that team has money, then that's something you've got to be a little worried about. So evaluate why that player is available. Number three, the age profile is important. And I don't like paying someone in free agency

beyond like the age 27 season unless it's a one-year deal or a very concentrated thing. I think that one is, you know, I don't think it's a bad idea to pay a defensive, like an edge rusher for a one-year deal who's 31 years old necessarily if it's a reliable player. But yeah, I mean, don't pay big money. Yes. Or multiple years, right?

Number four, and this one is the opposite of my approach in the draft, but scheme matters. In free agency, you're signing a player specifically to come in, day one, contribute in the scheme you have. So in the draft, I say, don't ever draft a player based on scheme. You don't know what the scheme's going to be like in year three of that player's contract. You don't know, you know, how that player's going to adjust from college to the NFL. Sure. For free agency, it's very much a factor is this is a plug-in play. decision so he needs to fit in your specific scheme uh and then and then number five obviously the most

important things a player considers is the money you get that um winning also factors into it sometimes it's it's it's where to live and so i i don't want to like the money's a big part of this but be careful about paying for a mercenary in other words um every player should get what they want but if that player doesn't want to be on your team don't like try to convince them, you know, because I think where you run a mistake in free agency is when that guy doesn't actually want to be there. And so, you know, there should be, obviously every player has a rate and the player deserves that market rate, but there should be mutual interest. If a player doesn't want to play for your team, I would move on to the next option.

I mean, don't you think that most of the time, like that interest is just about the money? Sure, but I look at like a situation like to Marco Murray for yeah, sure. You know, where sometimes. I think that's a good rule of phone. You find guys who they're just not interested in playing for your team and they're there and then it affects their maybe how they adjust to the locker room, how they take to the coaching, how they fit within the culture of the city. So obviously a player should want to get as most as much as he can and a team should

pay a player in order to come. Like, you don't expect the guy to come at a 60% discount. But if there's not mutual interest, this isn't like college recruiting, right? I mean, it should be, there needs to be mutual interest from where I stand. Okay. Now, before we get into your actual first one, let's extend the foreplay a little bit longer, as you looked at this exercise from the Eagles perspective, what were your top priorities to get done with the roster?

Yeah. Fixing the defense. in particular the back, the middle of the defense, linebacker and safety. And I will get to that being a priority. And then my number one is obviously has to do with the screenshot or the thumbnail on the photo, which is the thumbnail photo, I should say, which is the Hassan Reddick decision. All right. Well, let's get to it.

What are you doing with Hassan Reddick? So number one is you make a Hassan Reddick decision. And if you can sign him to a three-year deal at $70 million or they're about, you keep him. But if it's going to go more than that, then you trade him. And you trade Hassan Redick to the Detroit Lions, let's say, a team in Winnow mode that has some picks for number 73 overall this year. That's third round. And second round pick in 2025. Or the other option is the Arizona Cardinals, a team that needs past Rush Hells that has money to spend where Jonathan Gannon has the history with him.

It's not a great edge rusher class beyond like we talked about Dallas Turner, a big Dallas Turner guy ran well. But if you're taking Marvin Harrison Jr. in the first round, are you getting. a guy in round two who's going to be a difference maker on the edge, maybe not as much as a son rhetoric. So in that case, number 35 overall pick, which is high in the second round and a fourth round pick. I mean, that sounds way better. 35 and a fourth versus a mid-third and a future second.

I mean, that one's way better. Yes. Yeah. I mean, maybe you can get two-thirds. So which one are you going for? Well, obviously, you'd prefer the Arizona one, right? Well, yeah, but this is your, you're supposed to present one of the thing that you're doing. Yeah, so I'm trading, I'm saying I'm trading Hassan Red.

You're trading Hassan Red. And I'm giving you two teams. Okay. And I'm giving you what my asking price would be. I mean, with the Lions, you would like their first round pick. I don't know if you're going to get a first round pick. They don't have a second? No, they do.

And that's what I'm saying. I would rather trade for that second round pick next year. You don't know. The Detroit Lions are at the bottom of the second round this year. So my point is, if you're getting a second and a third, the Eagles have two seconds this year. I would rather take a third this year when the Eagles are drafting at the end of the third round and then take a second next year in a draft that I think is going to be a deeper draft next year because of we'll get into it during the year about the lack of underclassmen this year given the NIL.

And there's variability with you know what that lion's pick is this year. It's the end of the second round. What if Jared Goff gets hurt or the lions aren't as good next year? And that pick instead of being at the bottom of the second round is in the middle of the second round. So that's why if the Lions or the team, I'm more interested in the second round pick next year and a third round pick this year. They have two third rounders.

Okay. And then as part of this, I can make this number two, but as part of this, you need a Hassan Reddick replacement. And I'm signing Josh Uchi to a two-year, $16 million deal. Okay.

Now Uche is an interesting player. Never earned like full-time reps for Bill Belichick in New England, but has been a productive per snap pass rusher in terms of quarterback hits. Actually, I was looking at it like he, of all the guys, his split between like the sacks that he gets on quarterback hits. He's like, he converts those hits to sacks at a pretty high rate.

I don't know if that means that that is not sustainable or not. I haven't done the full digging there, but it's an interesting. It's an interesting one. Yeah, I like him as a, I mean, two years ago was a double digit. that guy last year had it had a down year. And under, he's actually, there are similarities to Hassan Reddick in terms of body type, in terms of advanced past rest statistics when you signed him. I think that if you're looking for a Redick replacement, he's 25 years old going in,

he was a second round pick out of Michigan. There's a lot to be interested in there. Okay. Well, let me, hold on. Let me put on my, Howie Roseman, sunglasses. It's my turn to be Howie. We have talked about this, and I'm going the other way. I am resigning Hassan Reddick.

I'd be on board with that. And the corollary to that is that I am trading Joshua. Okay. And this is a totally made-up trade, but I'm trying to fulfill two things at once here. So I'm resigning Hassan Redick. and I am trading Josh Sweat in a fifth round pick to the Los Angeles Rams

who are trying to go all in on one last ride with these aging stars Aaron Donald and Matthew Stafford you get a little edge rush help and Josh Swett in exchange for number 52 overall and Ernest Jones

they're very good young linebacker who was entering the final year of his rookie deal probably too good of a player for the Rams to part with, but that's my two birds with one stone move here. And that means I don't need to sign a free agent linebacker at the high end of that market. And I have extra room now to spend at a different position. What's your contract for Hassan Redick?

Let's call it, let's call it, I think 370 is about right. Okay, so we're in agreement there. Yeah. And I'm of the opinion that it's going to take more to keep Hassan Redick. three for 70. I think you'd probably have to look at three for 80 in that case. Yeah, I don't think. I don't think he gets that. Okay. But, okay, so there you go. Let's, let's snake this. Let's let's let you go number two. Well, before we snake it, let's talk about our new sponsor, Zach, because this right here is a delicious can of our new sponsor,

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What's the... Joey appreciated that. What's the joke? Of all your bad jokes that I sell, of all the years, Lulu lemon, it's a popular... Oh, that's pretty good. So you don't want Louvoo to be a lemon. Okay, that's not bad.

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I might use that. Sorry to interrupt you. But yeah, go on. Then you get to like the, the Blake Cashman, Jordan Brooks, I think, is a guy who could potentially be of interest for the Eagles. But like, you know, if you're, if you're living, if you're paying in the middle class, is that the right way to go about it? I don't know.

I mean, they certainly need somebody. And so that's why I like the Ernest Jones. And now the flip side is, at safety, there are a lot of options in the middle class. And I think that is probably where they're going to end up going. But for these purposes, for this exercise, if I'm able to fill linebacker without having to pay for it, I am going to pay at the top.

And I'm going to sign Xavier McKinney. Okay. Now, okay, go on. And then I'm going to ask you a follow-up question. Now, you know, over the cap has the projected deal for McKinney at three years at 11.5 per year. I think that's reasonable. He's 25 years old. He can do everything.

You know, if you're talking about this Eagles roster, like the championship caliber, like culture that they want to bring in. He has that. Obviously from Alabama. Now, from a long-term roster position, you might think, well, you know, we have a glut of safeties with Reed Blankenship and Sidney Brown. I think that you can't necessarily count on that one. And two, I'm releasing Avanti Maddox and Sydney Brown when he comes back is going to be in the mix to be playing nickel like all the time.

And maybe it's a three safety package. I think that's not a bad problem to have three guys of quality at that position. So McKinney is the guy who is my big spend in free agency. I like that. A few follow-ups here. Number one, you more than me, are. very anti-division rival signing. You don't let, you know, you say it with Dallas in particular,

but you see it with Washington and the Giants. Is that, was that a concern for you here? It's not that I am anti that. It's just that the Eagles history of doing it has been terrible. So does that concern you here? It doesn't. I mean, for what reason? James Bradbury worked out fine.

For what reason is he's a very good young player. It's not like, it's not the case of this guy did well against you a couple times and you're overvaluing that to bring him in. I also don't think it's the case of like there's longstanding bad blood between the Eagles and Xavier McKinney. And I think he's just the best player on the market at that position. I agree with you there. I really like Xavier McKinney.

And from the Howie Roseman, you know, talking about wanting to get younger on defense and like building this thing. And I think that's a real thing because you think about like what went wrong with Vic Fangio in Miami and you hear about the discord. with the veterans in the secondary like Jalen Ramsey and Xavierine Howard not necessarily getting along and this is like a cantankerous guy

and then you also think back to like that Bears defense that was so good. A lot of young guys on that defense. And I think that for a like a controlling personality like Vic Fangio who wants things done his way, what are you looking at? I'm reading a comment. I'm sorry. I'm listening to it. Yeah, I'm reading a comment.

You're like very... It was very... There's a very specific alley pop comment in there that was reading. We don't have to read it on the air. You were like, sorry. Totally zoned in. What is going on? For some reason, your specific eye work today is really throwing me off.

Thanks for calling attention to it to the audience. So all of that is to say that like turning over this Eagles defense and, you know, if Fletcher Cox does retire, maybe Vick's style works better. This is just a sort of a half-baked philosophy with younger players who haven't been other places and are more willing to buy into the scheme. And so, you know, Zabar McKinney's been around, but he's only 25, 26 years old.

A group that can grow together. I'm with you there. I frankly think that they'd be priced out for McKinney. I'm expecting Antoine Winfield Jr. to be tagged. I'm expecting McKinney to be the top. safety on the market. There are teams that, now there's a lot of safeties on this, on the on the market. That's a position that teams are letting players hit there.

There are a lot. And there's, you know, there's, there's a beholder to this too. Like some people might think Cam Curl is going to get more money or, uh, you know, Geno Stone, although probably not quite that much. But yeah. Yeah. So look, if, if you're willing to pay top of the market, I am with you on, on, on, on McKinney.

Uh, I don't want to say that your list and my list are. are like a little divorce from like reality. I think I was a little bit. I think I was kind of operating within like my expectations of restraint in the sense that yeah, if you can sign Hassan Reddick, I will keep us on Reddick. But I don't think they're going to be able to sign Hassan Retic. Therefore I gave the trade and the Josh Uchi option. If they're able to sign Xavier McKinney, that's a player I'd be very interested in for sure.

So you're saying I'm not being realistic, but you are? Yeah, I think my list is probably. be a little more based on... I signed one guy to an 11.5 million dollar deal. And you signed Hassan Reddick. You kept the son-Redick and you kept the son-Retic. But I also traded Joshua. I'm clearing that money.

You signed Hassan Reddick and you signed Xavier McKinney. I'm saying that. Yeah, I'm not going to be signing Mike Evans coming on here. Like, that's two real deals. Those are, that's not, that is in line with what they're able to spend. Okay. Okay. I hear you.

I think it's going to cost more to get Xavier McKinney than that. but I hear you there. If you can get Xavier McKinney. You know more than the guy who runs over the cap. You know more than Jason Fitzgerald. Okay. How about what? I'm curious.

What does Shil Kapati say it will take the sign Xavier McKinney? I don't know, but now you're making Jason Fitzgerald very angry. No. I'm not, I think Jason Fitzgerald, and I should give a strong endorsement for over the cap right now. They are terrific this time. They're terrific throughout the year, but especially this time. year they are the best in terms of the NFL cap of all the places that you look. I'm just pulling something up here real quick. Pro football focus has the projection for Xavier

McKinney to be 13.5 million per year. You know how I feel about that website. A four-year deal, $54 million total, $30 million guaranteed is what their projection is for. Fine. That's an extra $2 million. It's fine. It's realistic. I'm saying I'm willing to pay. I am willing to pay the cost for the best safety on the market. That's what I'm saying. Okay. But I'm saying there's a difference between a four-year, $40 million deal and a four-year, you know,

$54 million deal. So. Well, I didn't say four years, $40 million. What did you say? Four years? I said three for 11.5 per year. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Maybe, and we can push fake money around. It's fine. This is the dumbest argument we have ever had. We've had much dumber arguments. I can assure you that. Okay. So that's a good one there, and I'm on board if you can sign McKinney.

You're really insulted by that. Yeah, because I took time to do this realistically. All right. So we're snaking here. So my next tour is dependent upon one variable. And that's how is the evaluation on Jeremy Chin in terms of position. Jeremy Chin's a player who I've said that the Eagles have been interested in the past. He's a player I like.

He's a player that I can see. Congratulations to everybody who bet and hit on Zach, including Jeremy Chin. in his off-season plan. So Jeremy Chin did not have a good year last year in Carolina with a defensive structure that is based in the Vic Fangio's tree. Sure.

Everard, their defensive coordinator, came from Denver when, well, he came from the, he was there when Fangio, no, he followed up. He was the decorinator after Fangio, but came from the greater tree. He came from the Rams with that, yeah, he's in that tree.

And that's concerning, because like I said in the free agency rules, scheme matters. If Jeremy Chin does not fit as a safety in this defense, then I don't think the Eagles are going to sign Jeremy Chin to play safety in this defense. And I think Vic Fangio is going to have a lot of sway in terms of personnel more so than Sean Desai had. And when they were interested in Jeremy Chin, they were in a Jim Schwartz attack style defense. And that might be the style defense that Chin is better suited for.

The other thing, and I say this ties into my two and three, is the Eagles might evaluate Jeremy Chin as a linebacker. And if you evaluate him as a linebacker and you think he can play in Vic Fangio scheme, I'd be very interested in signing him as a linebacker, considering the speed, the playmaking ability. I think there's a lot there to work with. So the evaluation of Jeremy Chin, but if you view him as a safety, I don't think he'll fit in this defense. So I'm expecting the Eagles to look hard at the safety market. If Jeremy Chin is not a safety, where do they turn?

Xavier McKinney would be a great place to turn. They were priced out for Xavier McKinney. I'm looking at that next tier. I'm thinking about the 2014 free agency. When Gerius Bird made a lot of sense, it's too expensive for the Eagles. Even T.J. Ward was too expensive for the Eagles. They identified a player that really kind of fit the price, the age profile, the personality profile. There's a lot there to like.

Well, what if I could interest you in, what does this sound like someone you might know? a New Jersey native, a North Jersey native, Central North, no, North Jersey native, who went to Ohio State, who plays safety, who's respected by his teammates, known for his intellect back there. Does that sound like someone,

does that sound like a profile you've heard of? Go ahead. Okay. Jordan 4, from the Los Angeles Rams. Jordan 4, who was like, a key part of that Ram secondary that won a Super Bowl has dealt with a few injury things. He's still young, 25 years old, I believe, going into the age 26th season. And he's, he has experience in this style of defense.

I think that's a player that could make sense and a player that's not going to cost you a lot. You're looking probably in that $6, $7 million range, which is probably conducive within their pay structure. has the I think the translate scheme wise you're not getting a high end athlete in terms of like if you look at

his combine testing there's a reason why he slipped to the sixth round he was in the four sixes as a runner but there's a lot of productive tape and I think the personality fit is something that they could like he could be a leader on the back end

I like a Jordan Fuller yeah and then my wild card at safety is darn else Just to, Darnal Savage, go ahead. Yeah, my wildcard at safety is Darnel Savage, a Delaware native. Shout out Martin Frank. First round pick by the Packers, who is a ball hawking type, not really known for his run defense or his tackling or his run fits, but gives you a lot of athleticism on the

back end. And if that's how you're going to use your safeties to play deep, I think that that's someone who he's still young, even though he played five years in Green Bay, the exercise his fifth year option. I think that there's a lot of talent there and that could fit as well. So just to clarify, this is what you would do, not what you think they will do. This is a combination of both. It's both predictive.

So you're just not doing the exercise. I am doing the exercise. I'm doing it. So if I were Howie Roseman, okay, I'm in these. See, what I'm doing, by the way, is I'm not. this unilateral GM. When I'm in the meeting. Okay. And we're saying this is,

this is what our offseason priorities are. I'm sitting in, Zach, within the confines of what we have capitalized, within the confines of what we have needwise, who are the guys you like? What makes sense for where we are as a team? And now I should also add the very... That's probably how we should have done this. We should have done this

as we were working on it together. The variable here that I simply don't, don't know. And I've shout out the Sean Syed from well, he's from Sumer Sports, but the Bringer-Fa-Fa-Wis special podcast. He knows a lot more about specifically the Vic Fangio defense than I do, and I've listened and read his material. And I know quite a bit about this defense, but I don't know, I haven't spoke to Vic Fangio yet,

specifically about what the Eagles, what it will look like for the Eagles. And so that's why that's a variable here that I can't account for. I don't know what they think about Jeremy Chin, but Jeremy Chin will be a player. I'd be heavily interested in if he fit in their defense. Okay. So your move here is Jordan Fuller. My move here is Jordan Fuller.

Okay. Do you have a, are you doing two? Are we doing the snake thing? Yeah, we're doing a snake. Okay. And so that's why. So linebacker, okay? If you're operating under the assumption, so let's say German Chin's not a linebacker for them.

So let's take Jeremy Chin now. Okay. But if he is, I'm signing German Chin as a linebacker. Okay. I'm all in on Jeremy Chin. Yeah, that's okay. But they have to be all in on Jeremy Chin too. The Patrick Queen is obviously the ideal.

Patrick Queen, they're going to be priced out of. So let's go next. Jordan Brooks is a player that would really interest me. Former first round pick. The Seahawks did not pick up his fifth year option, but he's been, even though he had a torn ACL, he's been like durable in terms of game displayed. He recovered from that and had a full season this year.

He's been able to do everything. He's been a three-down linebacker. He can cover. He can tackle. He can do a lot of. I think this is, this is a really, really good player. I don't know if the Eagles are going to pay for a linebacker. That's my, so I would here in this case, the number I outlined is four years, 40 million. Well, that's unrealistic. Is what? I'm just kidding. Well, that's the thing. You could

have said anything and I would have said that. I don't think the Eagles sign a $10 million linebacker. So this is what I, if, if Howie said, if I'm Howley and I'm saying, finally, we're ready to sign a linebacker. Let's let's find a guy. Let's find a guy. who can be a starter for us for the next three years, can fit in this Vic Fangio scheme, can be a key player on this defense. Outside of Patrick Queen, Jordan Brooks would be the player I would target

over Frankie Louvoe. Okay? Okay. My wild card, my, or my inexpensive option is Willie Gay. I think Willie Gaye's going to come relatively cheap. I think maybe there's a one-year show-me deal.

He's coming off a down year in Kansas City. But he's someone who has a lot of athleticist, There, I'm not being on like the cohabitation matrix here, but as we said on the show the other day, a teammate of A.J. Brown in high school, you look at his testing numbers off the charts. You look at his time with the chiefs. And you say, why is he available? Well, Nick Bolton is their top linebacker, understandably so. Drew Tranquil is a free agent, but he's someone who had a better year for them than Willie Gay. Willie Gay. They have lots of guys to pay.

They have lots of guys to pay. Willie Gay kind of said at the end of the season, his career with the Chiefs is probably over. But if you have Willie Gay next to Nikobe Dean, I think that these are complimentary players. Willie Gay gives you like the sideline, the sideline athleticism. Crazy speed, right? The speed.

Nicopa Dean is kind of your, when I say brains of the defense, that makes it seem like Willie Gay is not the brains of the defense. But yeah, that Nicobi Dean's, is your green dye. guy. He's reading what's going on. Exactly.

A little undersized and Will Gays flying around. Yep. He had some, he had some off the field stuff coming in, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maturity issues were the question with him. I believe he got in a fight with Garrett Shrof, with Garrett Shrader, their quarterback at one point.

There was an academic issue at one point at Mississippi. I don't want to, again, I'm testing my memory here. Yeah, I don't want to mischaracterize it either. Yeah, I don't want to mischaracterize it, but that was kind of the knock. But yeah, Willie Gay would be the inexamination. option for me. Okay. I think that's reasonable. All right. One thing that I wanted to make sure that I did is I am worried about wide receiver depth and I don't want to go into the draft without addressing, you know, right now on the roster, Britt and Covey's the number three guy. Right. And I want somebody in place

for, you know, $3 million who if the board does not fall our way for a wide receiver in the mid-refer. rounds were okay. Interesting. Okay. And so I looked at the guy, you know, I'm not, obviously, we're not talking, you know, the Mike Evans or the Hollywood Browns here. So I looked at, these are the guys I looked at. Uh, Olamina, well, I'm comparing them to Olamadee Zakias and Quez Watkins. You've got Marcus Valdez Scanling who was just released by the chiefs. Nick Westbrook Aquini from the Tennessee Titans, Tyler Boyd, who was the third banana in Cincinnati, KJ Osborne, who was the slot receiver for Minnesota, Noah Brown, who's been with the Cowboys and the Texans and filled in this year.

And then finally DeAndre Carter, our old friend. Oh, yes. So you've got these nine guys. And I'm looking at their stats over the past two years. Yards per route one, route. Oh, Curtis Samuel is also in here. Sorry. Shil Kapati's favorite. Yards per route run. Number one, Noah Brown, number two, Curtis Samuel, number three, Tyler Boyd.

Yards per target, number one, Tyler Brown. Number two, Olaminez Akiyas, number three, Nick Westbrook, Akeeney. Now you split it to Man versus Zone. Who's the best against man? Noah Brown number one. Curtis Samuel number two. Who's the best against Zone? Noah

Brown number one. Tyler Boyd number two and Nick Westbrook Akini in there as well. Then you go to the slot and once again Noah Brown is on top. He keeps popping up for me. Noah Brown. There's also the connection to played for Kellyn Moore for several years in Dallas.

He's going to be 28 and a half next year. Maybe the market is going to be more into Noah Brown than I'm expecting. But I think that's the guy who I like to add to this group knowing that, you know, if Devante Smith and or A.J. Brown has some kind of injury this year. You've got a little bit better depth there for what I think is the most important part of this team keeping it a, you know, a top five offense and especially a passing offense. I like your options.

I disagree with the premise of your. Focus there. I am not paying for a free agent wide receiver. I am going into the draft and saying it's a deep receiver class that the Eagles need to get kind of, they need to get how you projected Joe and Hyatt last year in your shadow draft. They need to get someone who's inexpensive, who's young and then fits within that structure of Devante Smith and A.J. Brown. So I am not paying for a veteran. And that's a position where I'm okay going into the draft saying let's get a third receiver in the draft. And if it doesn't work out, we'll see who's on the market thereafter. But that is not a priority of mine. I like your players, I would just spend my money differently. Okay. And then my other thing here is, you know, I don't have a running back here because my plan is let the market come to me.

I'm going to sign a running back the second week of free agency. And it doesn't really matter to me necessarily who it is. Because I would actually, I'm more interested in without knowing the class as well, drafting a, you know, a third round running back than a third round wide receiver. right now. So that I'm letting come to me. The other thing here is now that I need to backfill that I have traded Josh Sweat,

I want to sign a veteran edge rusher who is a little bit of a different body because if I'm left with Redick and Nolan Smith there, you need somebody with a little bit more heft and the guys like, you know, DJ Wanam is probably a little bit out of my price range. You don't want him. Yeah, that's exactly right.

Want them, don't need them. Zadarius Smith would be would be great but that's a little bit too pricey given the level. There are some like buy low guys like Caleb on Chase on you could just throw it you know it's sort of like the draft pedigree guy I like exactly it's like the

greedy Williams signing from last year Bryce Huff is going to be a little bit out of my price range and so this is another one where I'm I'm sort of letting it come to me even Yana Kinkakwe is not the right body type necessarily I'm a little bit intrigued by Mike Dana from the chiefs I don't think

he's going to get a ton. Hell of the victors. He does not rush the past rusher, rush the quarterback productively. But you want me to sell Hales of the Victors a little more? I'm not. I was just, he went to Michigan.

So that's why. Yeah. And so actually, I actually don't even have a great answer here. But it's just, I'm spending six to eight million dollars on backfilling with a different body type at defensive end. And you're okay at that point.

If it's like a 31 year old on a, one-year deal. Like, you're not looking for a chord player. You're looking for just someone to help this year. Yes, because I've picked up that second round pick in the Ernest Jones fake trade. I have a first and three seconds to address a right tackle of the future, a cornerback of the future,

and then something else on defense probably, and that might end up being an edge rusher. Okay. I like that. I like your offseason. I've got one more at the end, but go ahead. Okay. Because we snake, that was my three-four. Oh, yes, okay. So at running back, I agree with you. I'm letting the market come to you.

I'm being a little aggressive in one specific situation. Cleland Farrell was also, Tracer Bullett mentions him and actually is a guy who would make sense there. Shout out to Mike Mayock. I like, or I'm saying to DeAndre Swift, saying DeAndre, you're really productive here. We like you. We like the way you play. the way you fit here. There's a lot to like. I'm sorry, man, this is a tough year to be a free agent running back. It is a loaded class. You're not going to get, if you get the deal you want on day one,

day two, good for you. If not, you have a one year deal to come back here to play, to be the featured guy in our backfield, and then you hit the market next year. You're still at age 26 at that point. We're going to pay you five million, five and a half million to be our starting running back this year. We're not going to tag you next year. You get to be a free agent running back next year in a class that it's not going to be as strong unless there's a lot of older guys coming on to it that the next year's free agent running back like the draft picks that are the guys who aren't expiring deals are it's not nearly as strong. Right.

You don't have this is basically two free agent running back classes in one. because Sequin Barclay, Josh Jacobs, all those guys were tagged. Tony Pollard, they were all tagged. So that's why it's a tough year to be on the market. So I'm saying, DeAndre, you have a one-year deal waiting for us that fits us this year, pays you, and you can hit the market next year. And if you don't take this deal by Wednesday, there's a good chance.

Your market totally crashes out. Exactly. So that's my approach. I think that's reasonable. Yeah. And if he says, guys, I'm going to the highest bidder. I'm sorry. then what I'm doing is this.

I am trading. I'm going to try to trade for similar to what they did with DeAndre Swift last year, what they did with Jordan Howard a few years ago. You're looking for a guy entering the last year of his deal. Ramandre Stevenson would fit that. Oh, interesting. Now, you're saying, well, he was the top back in New England last year. Well, is New England going to pay him?

Are they going, are they going to go young? Are they going to just try to get more draft picks there? Stevenson has been on record saying he wants to be in every down back that the Patriots have cut you know they signed Zeke Elliott last year they've had him pair with Damian Harris in the in the past you say given the stage where the Patriots are is Stevenson available that will be a guy I would trade for different type of back than the Eagles have typically gone for

yep and then the other play is that this is a shout out to Bo Wolf's great trade deadline coverage last year but Damien Pierce fell out of favor with the Texas. I like that. He has two years left on his deal. So this is not a guy, a team's trading, because they're not going to resign him. This is saying, he fell out of favor for you.

David, a Devin Singletary took over. Change of scenery. You come in. He was productive two years ago. We're going to give him a chance here. I like that. Okay. Okay. And then the, before you get to your number five.

Okay. Well, just one last thing. I'm running back. If you say, Zach, you need to sign. We can't trade for one. We're not going into the draft bear at that position. give me one guy on the market who's going to come in expensive, who you like us for us for us to sign.

You're a shot penny. Yeah, I would say AJ Dillon is the guy I will look for there. Okay. I don't think that's unreasonable. Before we get to your number five, Zach, as we are all looking to create a little cap space for our imaginary game here, we could use some rocket money because rocket money is what I use to save money.

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Miller Brewing Company Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 96 calories per 12 ounces. All right, Zachariah, you've got one more move left. Yeah, so my last move isn't necessarily a move from the outside. It's an internal move. And it's two guys from the 2021 draft class. I'm exercising Devante Smith's fifth year option. Captain obvious, thank you there. But I'm not, so I'm delaying the long-term deal.

I still want to sign them to a long-term deal, but I'm saying if we give you a long-term deal, or I'm not saying if, I'm saying when we give you a long-term deal, let's do it in the summer. Maybe we can do it during the season, right? But I'm not doing it day one here because the player I'm signing from day one is Landon Dickerson. And the reason I'm saying, Devante, this has nothing to do with you. It's just, you're explaining that to him. We love you, Devante.

The fifth year deal is going to pay you among the top wide receivers. The fifth year option is going to pay you among the top wide receivers in the NFL because we love you so much that we draft you in the first round, high above the first round. We have that fifth year option to give us a little bit of flexibility. We don't have that with Land of Dickerson because we took him in the second round. So in Dickerson's case, what I would do if I were, Howie Roseman is I would say, I'm going to give you a really competitive offer here.

I'll give you having my notes. Let's say four for 75. Okay. It's not quite what Chris Lindstrom got, but we're still going to make you one of the top five highest paid guards in the NFL. Okay. Are you worried about how Devante is going to take that? Well, the Devante discussion is an interesting one because he is eligible for the extension, but the fifth year option gives them that flexibility.

and that's the variable here that's that's like a big deal and i think from devonte's perspective similar to what we were talking about last year with johan hertz is that there's a class of wide receivers who are coming up jamaar chase is in that wide receiver class jowen waddle was in that wide receiver class right um so that that it would behoove the eagles that quickly to try to get ahead of those deals um but i i also think yeah i i i I think you have to sign Devante Smith immediately. I'm just saying that when you sign Devante Smith, okay, there's a certain, how does it affect your cap this year?

I would just say there's some league business I need to take care of before signing you. So I would make DeVonte Smith a priority. I'm saying I'm going to sign Devante Smith, but the first thing I'm doing is exercising your fifth year option. And then I'm signing Landon Dickerson because he's entering a contract year. And I don't want Landon Dickerson going in the camp with the contract status looming. In Devante Smith's case, he's under team control for two years. And I guess, like, if you were exercising the option,

then it's not like you're paying him over the top of AJ Brown, and that complicates that dynamic a little bit, and you get to make the decision next top season if you want to trade AJ Brown. But it's a little bit dicey. Very much dicey. And that's why I originally said, when I put this exercise together, I originally said, signed Devante Smith right away.

But then I'm thinking, well, what does that do for Landon Dickerson? Like, because Landon and... Pork and Los Dose. And it's, yeah, you can sign both. But I don't want Dickerson going in the camp on the last year of his deal. I want to make that a priority before you get the camp because when you're in that, I don't want to say lame duck status, when you're in the last, when you're an expiring deal, that can sometimes factor into, you know, if there's injuries, if there's a lot of different things.

So I want to take care of him before he's into last year. The flip side is that's an easy, like that's a tag that's not going to hurt you. Good point. If you get to that next year with Dickerson. I don't love tagging my players, but good point. Yeah, I think that's fair. All right, my last one is speaking of the offensive line, you know, if Jason Kelsey retires, and with Sue Opetta and Jack Driscoll set for free agency,

Lane Johnson getting up there in years, the depth on offensive line is, leaves you a little bit wanting. and I'm expecting in my plan here to draft like an offensive tackle in the first round or at least the second round. But the interior is where I need some help. And I'm grinding film last night. I was up until six in the morning just watching every play. Football guy right there. I love it.

Of all these guys who were available. And one player stood out. Really, really good starting guard can flip to center if I need to. And I am throwing the bag. I'm this is an unprecedented offer. Oh, I know where you're going here. I am signing Michael Dunn to a five-year, fully guaranteed $1 billion deal. Okay.

And now I have everything I need on the offensive line. A cap implications there, but very happy for Madison and the Dunn family. Listen, if I'm Halle-Rosman, this is what I am doing. Yes, okay. And if I don't have a job tomorrow, that's okay because I took care of my people. Yes. All right. 68's not available, though.

Are you calling Jordan Milata and saying you got to change your number? Or is Michael Dunn wearing any number? He's going to be, he's going to wear number one. Ah, okay. So you're telling John Hertz to change his number. Interesting. Okay. Yes, this is Michael Dunn's team.

All right. Well, that's an interesting off-season approach. But I am all, I am in support of the rich family of the Dunn family being billionaires. No, being compensated for Michael Dunn's extraordinary both play, but also persistence to get to this point. And I think, I mean, I am a very objective report. I can't be very objective or other objective or you're not. I'm objective and I would not. But if I can, I, there's one thing I'm rooting for this offseason.

It's Michael Dunn to be compensated accordingly because of the affection that I have for the family and for Marissa in particular. Spoken to Michael Dunnick recently? Yeah, I spoke to Michael Dunn last night. My son had a chance to, Michael was so gracious with his time and his patience. And Reed wants to be a professional football player when he's older. We might have to work on a backup plan, but I don't want to spoil that for him right now. But the assignment is interview someone for this is a first grade assignment, pretty big deal. Interview someone for what you want to be when you're older and ask what education

training do you need and and what does the job include and uh so he had a chance to talk to a legit NFL player and he was very nervous when he did it um you know you had to work really hard in school you have to be a good teammate yeah you have to take care of your body listen to your coach listen to your coach there's there's a lot yeah um but and it's it's funny because before we knew we we could speak to michael um i was kind of helping out in the So I gave what I, so the number one professional responsibility I gave was. Make sure you know the eye color of the person you're talking to? No, big bold letters.

I wrote win. Number one is win. Wow, that's interesting. That's so contra your normal character counts. No, but that's your job as a, as a players to win. So. Okay. Yeah.

But probably for first grader, that's, that's, there's more, there's more like motivational things you can play. Is that, is that going to be your message? to your flag football team tonight? Well, you can't skip steps, right? You got to win the day, I would say. So let's win this practice. But I don't quite, I'm nervous about, like,

I think if I was, you're going to have a whistle? You know, actually, I read asked me that. I don't own a whistle, so no, and I'm not a good, you were giving us a good soundtrack when we were doing the work before. You were whistling. Yes, the Spirit Rangers. songs that are in my in my head the earworms i'm not much for whistler so no but um you know what

what i i i want to foster it in a fun environment want them to love football you know as Peyton manning would say you're going to start who's got better than us payton manning would say god bless football right so um yeah it's going to be uh so you're bringing god into practice it's going to be a fun night and uh we'll so we'll we'll see what happens but the first thing i'm going to do it's going to have them go around and you know you know I'd tell their favorite player, right? Because you're six years old. What's, what's core then talking about these, you know,

talking about these players when I was six years old? I'd love to Keith Jackson at that age. Okay. I remember being real upset when he signed with the Packers. But, yeah, so I'm looking forward to this. Okay. Well, we look forward to the recap. And, yeah, shout out to the Lady Huskies,

first time in franchise program history that they are. our regular season hockey east champions quarter final start tomorrow um very exciting before yeah shout out to them congratulations go ahead uh just there was no doubt about um chapter's reporting but just to kind of give people an update as i look through my messages here i kind of confirm that the eagles are releasing kevin fired um a quick and uh we're expecting more uh news in the coming days like you said about what's coming ahead of the eagles so make sure you check us all out we have we're going to have a lot of content on all p hl y dot com and this was a transition for me to say this.

We received some very good news yesterday that all our written content is now available on Apple News. I thought you were going to say you were pregnant. Why would you think I would say that? And that's so, you know, it's like an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie right there, right? No, it's something that I've actually behind the scenes have been kind of asking about and hoping for. and I'm happy to report that that is the case now

that PHLY is available, officially available on Apple News. Make sure that you follow the channel and it will help, you know, you'll get all our coverage there in the same place. Please still go to all-PHLY.com, but if you're like me and you're reading Apple, Apple News, or Apple News Plus every day, you can find our coverage there as well.

All right. Well, that'll do it for this episode of the Ph.LY Eagles podcast. Thank you to everybody for watching and listening. On Monday, we begin the quackatology process. I think we're going to talk through the players on Monday, and then we're going to actually get into hot and heavy on Tuesday and Wednesday, the 64 free agents. We think the Eagles might sign are most likely to sign.

Also, some news likely to happen over the next couple days. So we will have you covered from all angles for Julia. And Zach, we thank you for. being with us all week at the Combine, and we will talk to you on Monday. As always, we love you.