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Episode Date: June 11, 2024Magnanimous gentleman that he is, Bo has decided to use his birthday to indulge Zach’s mailbag fetish. We’re answering all your pressing questions, like which offseason addition is most likely to ...fall flat as Rashaad Penny and Nolan Smith did a season ago? Or how likely it is that one of the Eagles’ corners gets traded, and if so which is most likely? Plus, urinal game theory! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Tuesday high noon bo wolf
Zach Berman finally
ready for a mailback
Zach happy birthday
this is a big day
this is a big day for Bo and the whole wolf household
thrilled for you
why the whole I mean
yeah yes so brink
you celebrate Beau's birthday
saying like like graduated college or something like a big day
for me and the whole wolf household like me
it's always
always celebrate good occasions right
feel happy sure yeah this is
I was very happy. I got the ceremonial text from you this morning.
Of course.
I was going to send it at 545, but I didn't want to wake you up on your birthday.
So, what time are you up this morning?
Jane woke me up screaming at about 620, I would say.
Did she scream happy birthday?
No, she screamed mom and was very angry that I was not mom.
Nah.
But then she said happy birthday thereafter.
I mean, eventually.
Eventually, yes.
Yeah.
You big birthday guy?
Yeah, I like a birthday.
Yeah, okay.
Why it being so awkward?
I am being awkward on my birthday.
You literally brought out my baseball coach for 20 years ago.
And I'm being awkward because I'm saying, did your daughter, was you a happy birthday?
No, I hope you have a great birthday.
Thank you.
This is actually a significant day for me as well.
Let's hear it.
Five years ago on this day, I signed up to start to work with you.
Wow.
Little did I know with those next five years with three.
If only you could turn back the hands of time.
No, I'm pumped for you.
I hope you have a great birthday.
Thank you.
All right.
Well, you know, because I'm so magnanimous, we'll spend my birthday doing your favorite thing,
and that is a mailbag, Zach.
But, of course, we have to present it in a slightly different way.
Sure.
Right.
We've got to make it our own.
So what we're doing it, it's like a draft of the mailbag questions.
Okay, we're going to have ping pong back and forth.
You ask a question that you want to discuss.
I'll ask a question I want to discuss, and we'll go about it that way.
So I imagine yours are the nonsense questions in mine are the sensible.
Well, we didn't get a lot of Eagles questions, to be fair.
Okay.
I would like to have some Eagles discussion here, but certainly not all Eagles discussion, but I'll let you go first.
It's your birthday.
You don't want to?
No, you go first.
You've got more Eagles questions.
Okay.
So actually, this one is, this one came today from Bitbat Sports 202.
Should I introduce you?
Oh, yeah, sure.
Which, of course, won better than BitBat Sports 201.
Okay.
Does Reddick holding out change your view of that trade at all?
And the reason I'm going with this is this is newsworthy.
The Jets have their mandatory mini-com.
Camp.
Good show structure, look out of you, to start with a newsy thing up top.
Nicely done.
Hassan Reddick is not present.
Neither is Aaron Rogers, excuse.
Sorry, unexcused absence for an event that he barely wants to attend.
I'm curious what that event is.
Hey, I've been trying to do some Googling.
I was looking up Sound of Freedom Showtimes.
I was looking up RFK schedules, like medical freedom conferences,
Chico, California school board meetings, and I have not quite been able to find it yet.
I imagine an intrepid reporter out in New York is going to find out where Aaron Rogers is today.
But Hassan Reddick, probably somewhere very deranged.
Hassan Reddick is not a mandatory minicamp.
So I will pose this to you first, and then I will chime in.
Does the fact that Hassan Reddick has not attended OTAs with the Jets has not attended mandatory minicamp clearly wants a new contract?
Does that change the way you view Howard Rosman's approach with Reddick this offseason?
Not really.
I think that we were under the impression that part of the reason that he was so desperate to get rid of Hassan Redick and take less than what might have been perceived value was that, you know, Hassan Redick had a high asking price and didn't want to pay play for what he was being paid by the Eagles.
But this doesn't super change my mind.
What about you?
Yeah, no, this.
It's as you just said, this is why he got traded.
I've been saying for two years now,
and obviously this offseason,
Hassan Redick's an elite pass rusher.
The Eagles are not better having moved on from Hassan Redick,
but it's not, as Howard Rosman would tell you,
it's not Hassan Redick in a vacuum.
It's Hassan Redick and paying him to be one of the top edge rushers
in the league, which he is,
compared to Bryce Huff at, let's say, 60% of the price,
and then a future pick, third rounder or second rounder, we'll see.
And then the extra cap space, which you can spend on,
which they signed obviously Devante Smith to a contract extension.
They signed AJ Brown to a contract extension.
So I think that's the way they viewed it.
Now, I think Hassan Reddick's worth being paid one of the top beddressers in the elite
because he's proven that out over the past two years.
And so sometimes when you have a,
great player, you pay the great player premium money because he's a premium player.
So I wouldn't have objected to if the Eagles gave Hassan Redick a contract extension.
But if you're talking about $30 million and you're saying you can get Bryce Huff at what,
$17.5 million or thereabouts, and then you can spread the other money, the Delta elsewhere.
I'm fine with that, but Bryce Huff better be good because they traded an elite pass rusher.
Yeah, it doesn't change the fact that they look worse on the edge than they did last year, right?
Yeah.
So, yeah, I mean, I don't know that Reddick's going to get everything he wants.
I imagine, I don't expect him to hold out all season long.
Like, it's not a big surprise that he's not there in the spring,
and he's not the kind of player who necessarily needs to be there in the spring.
Are you surprised the Jets made the trade and didn't have something?
You know, Joe Banner always says, like, if you're trading for a guy who wants a new deal,
you better have that deal worked out before you make the trade.
I'm not surprised that the Jets didn't necessarily know what they were doing.
That has never surprised me.
Okay.
Yeah.
Do you think that there was another part of the question, or if it was a different reddit question,
does this indicate to you that maybe last year behind the scenes toward the end of the season,
there was a little bit more to Hassan Redick's discontentment?
As far as contributing to what happened behind the scenes for the Eagles?
Or just being a big factor in why he's gone.
I don't know if I think Hassan Redick wanted to have big time numbers so he could get paid right you get paid based on sacks but I just like sacks aren't a bad thing you know so if if if he was trying to get 16 sacks that's that's good like 16 sacks is a but he was being asked to drop a lot more under Matt Patricia than he was before that so I would imagine that he didn't like that yeah but there's obviously a structure within the often oh I'm sorry with
in the defense. I heard Jason Kelsey on WIP and he was talking about the collapse and he basically
said like when you're in that situation, everyone's kind of in like self-preservation mode.
And that happens when when teams are struggling. So I imagine guys who see, who want new deals
or who are in a contract year or need to kind of enhance their numbers. They're, they
probably is a degree of, you know, self-preservation.
I don't know if that's what Kelsey was referring to.
I don't know if he was referring to the coaching staff, whatever it may be.
But Hassan Redick wouldn't be the, if that was the case,
Hassan Reddick would not be the first person, quote-unquote, chasing numbers.
But I keep going back to, like, sacking the quarterbacks a good outcome.
Sure.
You want to sack the quarterback.
So.
Okay.
All right.
I'm going to give you an Eagles question, too, to start.
This is a fun little thought exercise from D.
David Groob 15, who wants to know, says he's been begging for someone to analyze what would
have happened if we drafted Justin Jefferson.
Is Devante Smith or AJ Brown still here?
Is Carson when still the quarterback?
Do they make a Super Bowl?
Let's go through and walk out what happens if they draft Justin Jefferson instead of Jalen Rager.
And presumably, they still draft Jalen Hertz.
Yeah, I did not see this question.
So this is a good one.
And I do want to say we had a submission.
I don't have it in front of me.
He's messaged me about this before.
He wants an episode this offseason, a what-if episode, like Slag Dors.
And I think that would be a cool episode.
So that's something that's on my list of off-season episodes.
But for this Justin Jefferson exercise, I mean, clearly, he's better than showing Rager, right?
Carson Wentz was in a regression, but the wide receivers were bad in 2020.
I would venture to say Carson Wence gets one more year.
Um, the Eagles.
I think with Justin Jefferson as a rookie, the Eagles are good enough to save Doug
Peterson's job and probably Carson Wentz one other year.
So maybe not like three, four years because maybe they're instead of four and 12 that year,
that or I'm sorry, four, 11 and one that year, maybe they are eight and eight, seven and nine.
And it's like, all right, this is this is kind of regressing, but let's,
Let's run it back one more time with these guys.
So my guess is they get one more year.
Certainly there's no Devante Smith.
There's presumably not an AJ Brown at that point.
But you have one of the top receivers in the NFL,
or you have perhaps the best receiver in the NFL.
I know sometimes things are a product of environment.
I think Justin Jefferson would be great wherever he went.
I don't think playing with Kirk Cousins is what made Justin Jefferson great.
So my guess is, yeah, Doug and Carson are here for at least one more season.
And I'm looking at the 2021 draft to see, you know, they wouldn't have been picking 10th,
but they probably would have been picking, like, I don't think they,
I don't think Justin Jefferson would have been enough to get them to the playoffs, right?
Yeah.
I think they'd still be picking like 1718, which is the difference between Alex Leatherwood and Jalen Phillips.
And boy, if they got Jalen Phillips, that would, you know, that would have changed things.
but it could have also been Cadarious Tony or somebody like that
or maybe they just take like Christian Derisaw
and that's their future.
Maybe Califera.
I don't know.
They need a corner.
I think the general arc without getting into the specifics of the picks who would be here,
I think they would have gotten one more year in 2021.
They would have not been good enough.
Doug would have been fired after 21.
Carson would be gone.
It would be Jalen Hertz's team in 2022 for his first year.
I don't know.
I don't know.
It would be funny.
like who would they have hired then i don't know well maybe i mean nick didn't get the interview yeah so
you could play that way yeah one thing the eagle's thought is that like uh and this is a convenient
talking point but i've heard them say this is who's going to be the top guys on the list next year
and they thought syriani would be one of the top guys on the list the following year so maybe
maybe it's a syriani who were the coaches hired going into the 22
NFL season 2020 NFL season new coaches and let's see because there were
guys who certainly emerged um this is mcdaniel josh mcdaniels dable it could been
nathaniel hackett brian dable yeah uh i mean i would hope that it wouldn't have been hacking
i could have seen them i could see them hiring mike macdainiel yeah actually mike mcdaniel's
probably the guy there right you know they that's someone that they were interested in before
right yeah mike mcdainil now would mike mcdainil choose the eagles over and i've got a mike mcdainil
team with Jalen Hertz Justin Jefferson.
I don't know.
Is that better?
Probably not the Devonte and AJ.
Yeah.
Devonte and AJ, you're right.
But also, you don't know, if they don't trade Carson at that time,
they're not getting that that haul from Indianapolis.
True.
So you're not getting those two first round picks.
Yeah.
Right. So that's interesting as well.
Interesting. All right. Over to you.
Over to me.
Let me pull up my, uh, my list here.
Um,
So, here's one.
This is also a what if.
This is from Gris 4599-1326.
Oh, yeah.
This is like back my AOL instant messaging days, you know?
Philly Boy 6.
Tilly Boy 6.
Good memory.
If Jellin struggles this year and shows little to no improvement from 2023,
do you believe how he begins the process of finding the next quarterback?
Where is your current belief on Hertz on a 1 to 10 scale?
I'm currently at a 7 and think he should be able to be MVP level again.
I would say if Jalen is bad this year,
if Jalen plays the way he did in the second half of last season for the whole season,
then, yeah, I think Howie Roseman would start to be thinking about contingency plans at the position.
I think he would, I would find it hard to believe that he would move on this offseason,
but I could see him preparing to potentially move on the following offseason.
And I know like the money is significant.
You know, you'd be sitting probably a new record for dead cap money,
but it's not something that they've necessarily worried about in the past.
I think they care more about getting the right quarterback.
I don't think that it is impossible to think that, you know,
Jalen Hertz has only two years left here.
But I think that's really unlikely.
And I think the.
stuff around him is good enough and should be good enough.
And we've seen him play at a high enough level.
Now, maybe this is part of what you would have said about Carson Wentz in 2020,
but he's still young.
I feel like there's more for him to give.
But it is, you know, it is something of a crossroads for him entering the season,
don't you think?
I don't think a crossroads yet.
I mean, I think if there's a year of regression, then next year is the
crossroads year. I don't think that he's he wasn't bad last year he was inconsistent two years ago he
was number two in the MVP in the in the in the MVP voting went toe to toe with patch
my homes in the Super Bowl so I I don't think we're at the crossroads year yet I think a crossroads year
would be in another year. So I don't see a sentence now you also need to say what's the
alternative right you're you're not going to be it would say it would
surprised me, even if Jellon's inconsistent this year, they're drafting in the top five or top 10.
It's not a great quarterback draft to begin with next year, although that can always change.
You wonder what veterans could become available. So I don't think there would be an alternative
that would be superior to Jalen Hertz unless, you know, they look internally and they're like,
man, Tanner McKee or, man, Kenny Pickett, you know. I still believe in Jalen. I think that
I look at the high watermark, right?
And look, I said the same thing about Carson,
and I was wrong there.
Going into the 2021 seat or into the 2021 offseason,
one thing I said is like,
I've seen Carson play at this level, right?
It's hard for me to give up on someone
when they've played at that level,
and they're at that age,
and I was clearly wrong.
I've seen Jaywin play at that level.
So maybe there's an anchoring bias
from my perspective,
but I think that J-Ellen
can be an elite quarterback
in this league, has shown that.
He's young. I think he's made from the right stuff,
but he does need to improve.
Like, stagnation is a problem in this league.
And there are quarterbacks who get to a certain level,
and then they don't get better.
And teams, like, keep running it back, running it back.
And so, J-Wen needs to keep moving his legs, so to speak.
Let me ask you this.
What do you think is a,
more likely path towards a divorce here.
Jalen Hertz is not good enough on the field
or Jalen Hertz and the organization butt heads
philosophically behind the scenes?
Good question.
I think it's more performance related, right?
But.
I mean, if the performance is good enough,
it doesn't matter what's going on behind the scenes.
They'll take the performance on the field, right?
But if there's a middle ground where, like,
Like he could still be good enough.
But maybe there is a buddy on the heads.
I don't know.
The Carson Wentz experience taught me a lot.
Like Jeffrey Lurie literally said,
this guy has everything you want in a franchise quarterback
when they gave him a contract extension.
And then before that extension commenced,
he was out of here.
Right?
Right?
Like this was so that they gave him the extension in June 2019.
And then by March 2020,
he was traded and he had demanded a trade.
And by December 2020, he was benched.
So like the NFL, it's the expression, not for long.
Like there's things change so quickly.
Yes.
And so I don't think it's like a preposterous conversation to have.
I just, I'm still betting on.
I mean, it's pretty wild.
Yeah, but I'm saying I would have thought.
The overwhelming odds are that he's going to be here for a very long time.
I would have thought.
the like the Carson Wentz thing is so if if on your birthday in 2019 okay which was like a week
after the eagle signed Carson to a contract extension if you said so in 2019 you turned
33 33 yeah and so if you said by the time you turn um 36 Carson Wentz is going to be
playing somewhere else, right? You would have thought that's, that's crazy, right? So, yeah.
Are you at the point, like, do you always know how old you are? Just like right off the top of
your head? I have to do the math sometimes. You have to do the math? Sometimes, yes. No, I don't
remember exactly how old I am sometimes. I never have that issue. Sometimes, like, you're so conditioned
to saying, you know, I'm 37 and then when you turn 38, you know, like a week later, you forget that
you turned that, that kind of thing. But no, I don't need to do the math. I mean, I know, I'm, I'm,
I'm pretty sure I know the range.
Yes.
But sometimes I have to think for a second what the actual number is.
No, I, I'm pretty good with my birthday.
Like with my age.
I know my age.
You're going to work on it being the best year of your life.
Every year.
It should be, you know, actually when I drop Sloan off at school, I tell her, make this, make this a great day.
Don't have a great day.
Make this a great day.
And her teacher's like when I say that.
I like that.
I say, yeah, it's up to you.
That's good.
Yeah.
All right.
an important question from McJiggle.
Zach, and the question here from McJiggle
is a public bathroom question for you.
Oh, gosh, okay.
If there were...
I saw this in the tweet, but I'm not sure I saw the question.
All right, well, let's get to it.
This is a good plumbing of your mind.
If there were five urinals, okay, you walk in.
There's five urinals.
Okay.
And you go left to right, one, two, three, four, five.
Yes.
Bow is positioned at urinal two.
And Jeffrey, Lurie, is positioned at urinal five.
Okay.
Which urinal would you pick to pee in?
Was this seriously a question?
All right.
So there's five urinals.
So there's five urinals.
You can go one or three on either side of me
or you can go four next to Jeffrey.
I'm going one.
Interesting.
Why?
I got the wall on one side.
Right?
That's the way to go.
It's like an aisle seat or it's actually more like a window seat, I guess.
But yeah, that's kind of the way.
I'm looking at it is that because if I pull in the four interesting to compare a urinal to a window seat
but if I'm going it's all about the views yeah if if I'm going to four then someone then someone could come
next in and stand in three so now I'm yeah now sandwiched so so one you're I know there's so you're
you're only going to be one side yeah exactly and and the reality is you're already there okay
So presumably, yeah, someone says, Zach's not going to want to do mailbags again.
This might be the question.
I'm sure there's other questions that are going to drive me away from mailbags.
I was expecting more football stuff.
Wait, so here.
We're starting with three straight football questions.
All right.
So here, I will play this out.
Presumably, okay, I am not going to start and finish by the time, like, you know, you're probably out of there by the time.
Maybe, you know, while on midstream.
So in that situation here, okay, I am at one, all right?
In this scenario, first of all right?
First of all, why are Jeffrey and I in at the urnals?
Like, why?
Why?
Do billionaires have to have different bathrooms?
We can't all just pee together?
It's no, but typically when I'm at a venue where Jeffrey is, the...
Let's say the owners are not using the press box.
You and I have won an Oscar and he's there as well.
we're in our we're in our tuxes yeah no i'm still going for the window seat there okay i i i think
i've said this on the show before would you have done would you do the same thing if if geoffrey
and i were reversed if geoffrey was two and i would make the same call yeah i'm going for
it's not about the person it's about the yeah exactly i don't want to be boxed in person in person
there so if i have the if i have my druthers i have a wall on one side okay and and and so that's that's
that's the way I'm going I I've said this before the Giants practice facility they have a
toilet you know I got a bathroom in the Giants practice facility and there was a practice one
time when uh when I was I was peeing in and Coughlin and then Tom Coughlin came in and you
you don't know like if you're supposed to like acknowledge the existence you know it's like
a head coach during practice you know yeah so I think I just did you know you know just did
you know you should have told him he was late no I could yeah Coughlin time I go
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All right, Zach, it's over to you.
It's over to me.
So we're going back and forth here.
Thanks again to McJiggle for a very good question.
McJiggle, there you go.
Let's go with the Wiz-Witt 17.
Why do you think they don't give Covey, that's Britton Covey, more playing time in the
slide?
He's been with the team for a few years, has the prototypical.
building quickness for those
quote unquote New England type of routes
and it's not like others are ahead of him
when you go out and get a Paris Campbell
I don't know that we don't know that we know that we know that
they're not going to give him a chance in there
we've talked about that before like potentially breakout players
on different levels and I think there is a chance that
Covey ends up being like third on the team and
you know like routes run for the wide receivers I think it's
you know Paris Campbell is the leader in the clubhouse
and probably still the betting favorite
but I do think that the Eagles have been looking for another answer
at wide receiver over the past couple years
and they haven't given Covey a chance really on offense
and so that that signal matters.
I mean, he is slight.
I think that his make you miss in space
doesn't play out as well on offense
as it does as a returner for whatever reason.
And I think he goes down
not easily, but
you know, he's not the most difficult
player to tackle for someone of that
juice.
But I think that
like there is a chance that he could
work his way into being a guy
here. I think as we've talked about,
ideally they would like someone who can play on the outside
to be getting snap so that they can move Devante
or AJ Brown inside.
But I wouldn't count out Covey
as playing a role in offense just yet.
Yeah, I like Britain Covey.
I do think there's kind of a misconception that like if you're a for a white guy.
Yeah, like a 5-8 white guy that all of a sudden you can be Julian Edelman or Danny Amendoa or Wes Welker.
I mean, a Britton Covey, when he was at Utah, he was an outstanding returner.
He was a good receiver.
He wasn't like an elite receiver.
His best season was his fifth year.
He had 52 catches for 514 yards and three touchdowns in the, in the,
the pack 12 um but overall you know he had 11 touchdowns in in five seasons i should say 11
receiving touchdowns in five seasons i think um yeah i think he's he's he's he's he's he's
he's solid they they've seen him for four two years we'll see if he gets more of a look there i've i've
mentioned without kind of uh stereotyping colby easily is of a similar build and had production in
this Kellmore style offense in Dallas.
So maybe there is some carryover there.
But when you compare it to Paris Campbell, like Paris Campbell is more gifted.
Paris Campbell was a second round pick who, you know, ran what a low 434 at the combine,
was really productive at Ohio State.
And two years ago with the Colts was, you know, had high level production.
So clearly I would prefer Paris Campbell.
this is going to play itself out during triny camp.
Yeah.
All right, I'll give you an Eagles one.
Okay.
From Wannaby GM.
He says if Chauncey Garner Johnson misses time,
which, to be fair, he has missed a lot of time over the past couple years,
who is the best option to step in at safety in a situation
where they need to cover a wide receiver or a dangerous tight end from the inside
with a two-way go?
And he lists some of the options of Bonte-Matics,
Reed Blankenship, Sidney Brown working his way back,
Josh Job, Tyler Hall, Cooper DeGine,
other he says this was a big problem last year yeah so my first answer would be sidney brown
but the fact that you put cooper the gene in there i'm going to say cooper the gene um i'm high
i like cooper the gene quite a bit i liked him coming out of i said that it during the draft
process i think that he's someone who you can use as a chess piece not a movable chestpiece because all
chess pieces move uh and i think you can play him based on matchup
So if you're going up against that tight end, I think Cooper DeGine from like, he's not big, but he can play that type of role.
He's played in the inside.
He's played in zone before.
So typically you're looking more of like a zone match there.
So I am, I will lean toward the gene, but I think Sidney Brown would be my next one up there.
I think my answer here is Avanti.
Now, I think there are different situations.
We can acknowledge that there is overlap between what the responsibilities of a nickel are
and what the responsibilities of a safety are.
But we haven't seen, you know, Cooper DeGine has, as much as Vic Fanjo was throwing at him,
he did not line up at safety, right?
And so I think there could be games where there's a specific matchup
where they want Cooper DeGene on the field for.
But if we're talking about like who's going to on an every down basis step in for
Johnson Gardner Johnson at safety.
I mean, first of all, in the spring, it was Avanti Maddox.
I think if he can stay healthy, he provides a little bit of that skill set.
The Sydney thing, I mean, it also depends on when in the season of this happens.
If it's in September, I would still say Maddox.
If it's in December, then yeah, Sydney Brown is going to have to step up probably.
But I think that's part of the reason why Maddox would make the roster is because he is a potential, you know, good plan B at safety.
And do you think in this hypothetical scenario against a tight end that he's too smaller or you're always going to have a safety speed?
Like none of these guys are going up against Kyle Pitts and defending him one-on-one.
I mean.
Yeah, I mean, I think he's the best option.
Okay.
Maybe, you know, if it's a specific, like, go cover that guy.
Yeah.
It's like a basketball game.
Like, oh, your only job is to get that man, then, yeah, maybe Dijin makes sense.
but yeah, I don't.
I think Maddox is higher on the pecking order at the moment.
This one, this, I imagine we'll get to some other non-football questions,
but this one is a football question.
And this is a topic that has come up.
I've had fans reach out to me about this as well.
The birds are very thin behind Jordan Davis at the nose.
PJ Mustifer, question mark.
I would love to see another veteran run stopper and Callas Campbell brought in.
This is from TurnCol.
coat forever.
Well,
Calais Campbell's not a nose tackle.
Yes, yeah.
But, yeah, he would be, like, if
Milton Williams went down, or if
Jaylon Carter went down, Campbell would
fit that role. He's not lining up
over the center. Right.
I mean, I think that
an extra defensive tackle, whether
that's a nose or not, is the thing that they could
add for sure.
We've talked about, Mustafa,
Tui Polo to can do it a little bit, even though he's
a little bit undersized for that.
Yeah, I think that is a need.
And you have a guy in mind.
Yeah, my guy in mind is Brian Monet from the Seattle Seahawks, or he had been with the Seahawks.
He missed last year with a torn ACL.
But in 2022, he signed a two-year, 11.5, $12 million deal with the Seahawks.
He has real starting experience.
It started eight games in 2021, 2022.
And his defensive line coach during that period was Clinton Hurt.
So, you know, Clinton Hurt has worked with him.
When you talk about the size, like 6-3-3-4-5, I mean, that's what he is.
He plays the nose.
Now, he's been available since early March.
He was a cap casualty by the Seahawks when they cut Jamal Adams.
When he was in that group.
He's still kind of hanging around there right now.
I don't know what his health is, right?
He didn't play last year, as I said.
but when you're talking about
nose tackles available
who he's 28 years old
has experience with Clinton hurt
that would be the place I would look
and I got to tell you I'm not
I haven't crunched Brian Monet film
so I can't tell you how Brian Monet did
in 2021 other than just looking at the profile
and having starting experience
yeah yeah by the way how about my Perry Nickerson call
yes I meant to give you credit for that
you said they're going to sign him before came
They literally signed him right away.
It's as if how he listens to the show.
What a call.
It's just, yeah.
That was fantastic.
Big, big ups to Bo on that one.
I know.
What's your next one?
Bo, Bo, Bo, Bo.
My next one for you is...
No, no, no.
I was going to say, what's your next call?
What's your next like?
I can't speak it when it gets spoken to me.
Okay.
When my eyes see it.
Question from Killikow, Zach.
How many of the players you project on the 53
are aware of Henton?
are aware of hentai and i i vaguely remember the hentai reference i i i i think i yeah i
think i googled and quickly exed out and uh yeah i didn't want um anyone of my family knowing i was
googling that that that type i really messed up my google searches trying to figure out what event
erin rogers is at but you're going to get some targeted ads huh yeah um how many are aware of it
Is that something you'd be really online to know?
Or is it like a proclivity of sorts?
Let's say 63%.
Really?
I would go under.
You'd go under.
Okay, 44%.
I would take the under.
I didn't know what it was.
Yeah.
I did not know what it was.
If you had water gun to your toe.
Yes.
That you had to pick someone on the roster
that you were most confident would know what hentai is
who would you guess who would you you know who would you who would you have as
I don't want to mischaracterize or miss I I don't know who's your answer again
who would you pick um and again like I tried to wash this out of my memory is it is
it comparable to anime it's comparable okay so then it's a little bit it's a more vivid
I was going to say, I think, I mean, Jordan Davis knows anime.
Jordan Davis came to mind as well.
So, Jordan Davis knows anime.
So I would say Jordan Davis, but that is, I know like, I mean, Jordan, if you're
watching this, I'm just trying to answer both questions because, you know, anime, it's nothing
about anti.
Smy guy says this is an incredible line of questioning.
I think Kilocal likes to set me up for embarrassment.
Yeah, a lot of requests for more urinal talk if we want to get that.
Maybe we do a full year and all episode.
And he reads much to I say Zee, be playing dumb.
I can, I promise you that I am very, I'm very by the book with how I use my computer.
So no, I'm not playing, I'm not playing dumb at all.
Yes.
Very by the book with how you use your computer.
Yes.
Except for those Belichick saving folders.
Well, yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm not embarrassed, but they'll be watching Belichick saving.
All right.
Go ahead.
Belichick was at the game the other night.
Did you see that?
What game?
Was that the Celtics game the other night?
How nice for him.
Yeah.
What do you think of that series, by the way?
Are you watching it?
It has been a while since I've been less interested in a final series, I would say.
Really?
Yeah.
Okay.
Are you watching the Stanley Cup?
Not particularly.
Okay.
You're watching what?
It's the French Open going on to that?
It's just finished.
Oh, yeah.
I saw Noah Eagle signed off and wished TNT well.
What's the next?
Wimbledon comes up in a couple weeks.
And then the Euros start on Friday, I believe.
And then during Father's Day weekend, there's typically
U.S. Open.
Yeah, the U.S. Open.
Okay.
Starts on Thursday.
Okay, yeah.
I covered it when it was here.
Was that Marion?
Marion, yep.
Yeah, and I've...
Where the Eagles were on Monday.
Okay.
They were there and had their big Eagles Autism Foundation golf event yesterday.
Do you know who shot well?
No, I do not.
But, I saw the, I saw the, I saw the,
there was a group of Jeff Stoutland, his son, and Sequin Parkley.
Oh, yeah?
Nice.
Okay.
That's a good group.
Yeah, Stalant's son, Jake's good at golf.
Yeah.
And he's good on YouTube.
He did, like, him and Jeff did a competition.
And Stout did a competition.
But no, I remember going to the U.S. Open.
I had to take the L to, like, 69th Street, to the, what, like the high-speed rail,
the Norristown rail, got off there, then had to.
to take a shuttle to Marion and and yeah I who was it was a Jason did Jason Day win that
I don't think so no Justin Rose well Justin Rose okay all right um I thought Zex I thought Zeev failed
when he when he took the L that's what nice I took the L um nice so let's let's
Tracer says that Dave Canales has terabytes of hentai
Okay, I'm staying so far away from that one.
This is from on the topic of maybe the U.S. Open comes up in your answer here.
Question from a new dad.
This is from Rowland.
What is your ideal father's day?
I'm a simple man, you know.
I'd like to sleep in.
That would be number one.
Well, nice little, nice little sleep in.
Other than that, I just want to just hang around the family.
I don't have any big, you know, maybe sit on the couch, watch the U.S. Open.
I have a bit of a low-key afternoon.
But I don't want to, I don't want to, I'm not like, I want to get out of the house and play a golf for five hours and be away from the family.
I'm happy to hang with everybody.
Do you get to see your father and you get to, like?
I won't see my father this Sunday, but.
Okay.
Yeah, mine, I, yeah, just, just, just, just.
just being with my kids.
I don't watch golf, so the U.S. Open wouldn't do it.
My son's on a, my son loves playing catch outside.
So I'll probably throw him pop-ups.
Nice.
Last year, I took him to the movies.
His birthday is right around Father's Day, June 15th, so it's a day before.
So maybe we'll do the, the, I was considering going down to the Phillies Orioles on Father's Day.
I heard tickets are crazy.
Are they?
That's what I heard.
You should get game time.
Sure.
And, yeah, I don't think we have the game time read today, but I'm giving them a free one.
But, yeah, just and hang out with my daughter, seeing, you know, seeing my brothers, my grandfather, that's on my Father's Day docket.
So, yeah, just hanging out with my kid.
My ideal is Father's Day is honestly just hang out with my kids.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
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people. I see there's people in the chat going to the Phil's Orioles this weekend.
Do you have Camden Yards memories? Have you been to Camden Gards?
Yeah, I love Cambignards. Fun place. I remember going when it was newly opened.
You don't remember right? Okay. From the game. I liked the stadium a lot. I don't know what we want to tell you.
Got to see Cal Ripkin. Got to see Miguel Tadah. Like, who did you see when you went to the,
does the game stand out for any reason? No.
Okay.
Okay.
Brady Anderson, probably.
Brady Anderson, center fielder, 51 home runs.
Yeah.
Yeah, I remember that.
All clean.
They weren't testing, right?
There you go.
All right, I'm going to steal one of your Eagle ones, so we get it in because we tease it in the tease for the episode.
From Mista Masta, says recognizing full well that it's early and things can change very fast,
which big name Eagles newcomer would you be least surprise if they had a Rashad Penny or Nolan Smith-type season?
where there is far more hype than any sort of overall opportunity slash production.
So I don't know if this is a big name newcomer,
but my answer here is Zach Bonn.
And I'm saying Zach Bonn because we're talking about him like,
this guy's going to be the starting linebacker.
And, you know, there's a chance that Nicobo Dean's healthy come to the,
well, I imagine Nicobo Dean's going to be healthier come to the summer,
but that they see Nicobo Dean and Devin White,
and they're like, these are our starting linebackers,
Zach Bond, your special team.
guy who's who's going to play you know five to eight snaps a game and that for all the talk about
you know Vic Fangio mentioned him first among the inside backers and he was with the first team
all spring there you know it's it's not a hard bar to clear for and for for Nicobie Dean
and I also think that you get to a certain point where you know if you have Josh Sweat and
Bryce Huff and Nolan Smith and Brandon Graham you know J.
Alex Hunt was a third round pick. We don't know how he's going to put like they're not going to push for Zach Bond to get on the field in that situation. So that could be like Rashad Penny where at this time last year we were saying maybe Rashad Penny is the top running back in this group. And then come week one or week two, it's like, man, he's buried on the depth chart. And that could be the case with Zach Bond.
I think Zach Bond is a really good answer for the reasons that you said. I mean, Paris Campbell, I think has a chance to like go the way of Rashad Penny where he just doesn't get on the field at all if somebody else jumps him there. And then I think guys, I think, guys,
Isaiah Rogers is a possibility here from the free agency standpoint.
Like I have been impressed with Isaiah Rogers,
but if Keeley Ringo is so good and Quinny Mitchell is so good,
he may just not have a chance to get on the field.
On the rookie front,
I think there is a possibility that Cooper de Gene goes the way of Nolan Smith last year,
which is just that like if he doesn't force his way onto the field,
they're not going to force him onto the field, right?
You know, if Avanti Maddo is healthy and Vic Fangio thinks he's better,
now we heard that Vic Fangio loves Cooper DeGine so that's probably not likely but there's a similar
fall for Cooper DeGine as there was for Nolan Smith last year where like the league spoke and you
obviously like this guy more than the rest of the league maybe maybe the league happened to be right
for him as a rookie I don't expect that from Dejean I think he'll be more involved than Nolan
Smith was last year but I think that's a possibility my rookie one yeah I can't see that being
the case my rookie one it's it might be a stretch but for what the hype is just
Jeremiah Trotter Jr.
There's a chance
Jeremiah Trotter Jr's
like inactive or, yeah,
is,
well,
what if,
what if Keeley Ringo
wins the job and Darius Lay
stays healthy all season
and Quinny Mitchell just spends
most of the year as,
like the backup outside corner
doesn't get on the field.
What Keeley was last year.
Right.
Yeah,
it's a good point.
It's possible.
By the way,
my answer was going to be
Defonte Parker,
but he retired.
So,
God,
the guy is dead already.
He's not bury him?
He's not dead.
You're exhuming him
just to kick him in the nuts
one more time?
No,
but that was to me my Rashad Penny answer.
There wasn't as much hype for Rishat for Devante Parker.
You killed him from the second.
You were talking about this contested catch rate.
You were, yeah.
All right, over to you.
You had him as the guy arrest.
You had him as the next JJ Arthago White side.
You keep a guy when he's down, just as he's not here anymore.
All right.
Predict how many in which, by the way, this is from fully spectrumed.
predict how many in which of Bechton-Bahn-Rogers-White get extended in season.
Becton-Bon-Rogers-White?
Yep.
None.
None.
Who do you think?
I think-
Who's most likely?
I think White is most likely.
Bech-Ton is number two.
I think Bechton's most likely, White's number two.
Okay.
Because I think there's a scenario in place where they see Becht in.
And it's a priority to be like, if Bech-D-looks really good for them, they're like, we got to
that quickly. This guy is going to be part of our future here. Let's try to get him on a discount
now because a 26-year-old offensive tackle who hits free agency. Like if, if, let's say Lane
went down this year for eight games and Bechton steps in and plays well, Bechton's getting paid
next offseason, right? I think that I... But Bechton knows that too.
Sure, that's true. But that's why I'm saying like the Eagles could act even quickly. I mean,
They gave Jordan Milit of that contract extension going into the season.
They gave Fred Johnson a contract extension before the final preseason game last year.
Now, Beckton has, from the Eagles perspective, like, Beckton would have to prove that he can stay healthy, which he hasn't done in the NFL.
I think they would, I think the Devin White thing seems pretty cut and dry.
Like he admitted he didn't really love having the specter of free agency hanging over him last year.
I think if the Eagles see enough of him, they don't.
don't have, you know, and, you know, Jeremiah Trader doesn't look like he's ready to take over
right away. Like, and, and we, we've talked about Vic Fangio. I may not love Nikobe Dean.
They can lock in one guy at a, like, market level rate and not super overpay and sort of
make sense for both sides. I can see that happening. Yeah, you, you are absolutely right there.
Bechtin. The Bechton one's not impossible. Yeah, Bechtin expressed, no, he might just be
saying this, but he said last week when he spoke to us that he wants to be here long term. He sees this
is a place that he's here that he's here long term.
So this, I mean, by him signing a one-year deal here,
and there's no clear path to a starting job,
it's not like the rebuild your value type contract, right?
Because there's a chance he doesn't get on the field this year.
So that's where I think if the Eagles,
and now I'm putting the cart way before the horse,
but if the Eagles really like what they see,
given the way they prioritize the offensive line,
I think they would like that assurance.
at offensive line more so than then linebacker i think they'd be okay and i think devon white's
going to be good right i think they'd be okay playing the roulette wheel at lineback potentially but
beckton slows to win a job different white's already going to be starting uh all right a couple
quick hitters um tim wants to know who would win a game of one-on-one and basketball between the two
of us definitely you that's going to be me yeah i'm a five-on-five player so um yeah you put me on the
You have to shoot in one-on-one-one.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I'm a five-on-five player.
I care about what my team does and not what my stats are.
Good for you.
Anique wants to know who would win at Settlers of Catan.
Again, that's, I mean, that's a no-brainer.
What is Settlers at Catan?
It's a board game.
It's a very good, very good board game.
You need at least three people.
Yeah.
Four is ideal.
Why haven't I?
I've heard of this vaguely.
I couldn't tell you what, like, I couldn't picture it in my head.
I couldn't tell you.
Don't you remember there was a story written about the Packers Offensive Line loving settlers of Catan?
Is that a Kevin Clark story in the Wall Street Journal?
Maybe.
Okay.
Yeah.
Maybe.
Yeah.
It's a great game.
Okay.
All right.
Here's one that you will enjoy answering from Anthony Matsioti.
He wants to know, what is your Mount Rushmore of cities to travel to for work, Zach?
And what specifically do you like about each city without saying food?
Okay.
Well, food's such a big part of it for me.
Like I'm not I'm not hitting the nightlife that hard, right?
So I just use the word sustenance in.
I have to factor that in.
I wish I could say Montreal.
Montreal's not on the beats.
I'm just going to NFL cities here.
So Seattle, I always look forward to Seattle.
It's fun city to walk around in.
Has good food, but also it's got.
I said, I know, yeah, no, no, but there's,
There's interesting places to go.
You got, you got museums, you got landmarks, you got a beautiful college campus.
You got other sporting events if you want to see that.
I love seafood.
And so it's a great, you know, like oysters and salmon and salmon and most salmon's fish more than seafood.
But there's, you know, shrimp.
There's a great place for that.
I know I can't mention food.
Vegas.
Definitely Vegas.
Yeah, I know you're not a big Vegas guy, but Vegas has everything you could want and good weather.
And, you know, you could relax.
You can play blackjack.
There's a lot of different things you can do in Vegas.
I love L.A.
L.A's a little more sprawled out.
But, yeah, I look forward to L.A.
You see, typically I would say New York and Washington, but I don't stay over when I go to New York and Washington.
Those are just day trips on the Eagles beat.
So I need one more in here.
I know you want me to say New Orleans, but I can't go food here.
So like the appeal to New Orleans for me is the food.
So outside of the food, because I would say, you know what?
I'm going to put Detroit because I get to go to, I get to go to Ann Arbor.
And I love walking around Ann Arbor.
There's a certain energy when you're on State Street.
you know, and you see the big house.
So, yeah, I'm going to go to that.
Okay.
What about you?
On the NFL circuit, I would say New Orleans.
I love Chicago.
Oh, yeah, Chicago.
Without it being in December.
That's true.
I should have mentioned Chicago.
You're a green bag guy.
I am a green bag.
You want that Lambo, yeah.
Yeah, that would probably be there.
I mean, with a good time in Madison.
Yeah, we did.
And then Seattle would probably be my number four.
Okay. I also like Denver.
I like Denver a lot.
Denver might replace.
Although your Denver trip last time was you had a friend out there.
Yeah, that's why I like going there.
You stayed on the outskirts, yeah.
I like walking around Denver.
Denver's a good spot.
Okay.
All right.
Go, you got one more.
I thought you had a bunch of quick hitters here.
Let's see.
Let's go non-eagles here.
I have a bunch here.
You're diving to the Caitlin Clark discourse?
I actually had a question for you.
I was going to do it to convince me on Friday show, but I'll bring it up now.
Save it for Friday.
I'll bring it up now.
I think I will go too long.
Okay.
So here, let's go with here.
This is kind of football, but it's a deep question.
I'm curious to your opinion.
This is from a horse rider.
When you and Ben speak, I'm sorry, when you and Bo speak of players, occasionally when you
both comment on their character, quote unquote, good guy or stand-up dude.
What can we assume about the players you don't say that about?
And when does the journalist call out an athlete for having a bad attitude or poor character?
Yeah, I kind of object to this question, actually, because I think we make a point of not doing that.
Yeah.
Of not saying this is a good guy.
You know, this is a long-running thing to any back to, like, the first season of Birds with Friends with Shield.
We talked about this.
Like, I'm not going to use a positive interaction with the guy.
for 10 minutes when I see him like a couple times a week in the locker room to substitute for like knowing what his character is.
Even Jason Kelsey, who I've been around more than any player I've ever covered and think very fondly of, I'm not like I can't definitively say like what a great guy.
And so like I understand the purpose of the question, but I think we tried not to do that.
Yeah.
And I'm actually particular about how I frame it.
I'll say this is someone I respect for X.
So like Malcolm Jenkins is there, he's, he's among the players I respect the most that I've covered.
And I say that based on the way that he handles himself in certain situations based on certain things that he stood for.
And so I, and the accountability or the attitude that he takes, but I'm always careful, like you said, not to conflate the way someone is to me.
I thought James Bradbury was a stand-up guy after the Super Bowl.
Sure.
And I've said that.
You're talking about the specific thing.
A specific thing in the moment.
I'm not saying he's X, Y, or Z.
So, yeah.
But to the other part of the question, what does that say?
Or I guess what can you assume about the players we don't say that about?
I wouldn't read too much into it.
Sometimes you're right.
You know, when we talk about James Bradbury,
and you say, I like my interactions with him.
I like the way he's handled himself here.
But if I'm talking about a different corner,
if I'm talking about Stephen Nelson, who just retired,
I didn't have enough interactions with Stephen Nelson
to explain that.
So it would be out of line for me to comment on something
that I simply don't have the exposure.
It also goes, you know, we made fun of, you know,
like LeBron James, great basketball player, even better guy.
Like, no, he's not.
I mean, he's the best basketball player of all time.
Is he the best human being of all time?
Probably not.
Yeah.
Right.
But I'll say, I'll say here.
How about Bow Wolf?
Oh.
Wow.
Outstanding podcast host and outstanding guy.
How about that?
Wow.
Look at this here.
Whoa.
Uh-oh.
Careful.
Sorry.
I had a candle where I have candles.
I don't have matches or a lighter.
Or utensils.
Well, this is very.
for you and your family doing it.
Oh, thank you very much.
Yeah.
Happy birthday.
Happy birthday to Bo.
Thank you very much.
Enjoy.
Yeah.
You've got to icing all over that thing.
I'm sorry.
I got to tell you.
I got to tell you Emily, when I told Emily last night, it's your birthday tomorrow.
Yeah.
She said, why did you tell me earlier?
I would have baked him a cake.
Oh.
And I was like, you don't have to bake bowl a cake.
I agree.
I'll pick one up tomorrow.
She said, she said, Zach, Bo did all of this for your birthday.
She contacted this person and that person.
They had a whole montage, and I'm like, I mean, I should have reached out.
It was Josh Zeist.
Is that his name?
Josh Zide?
Josh Zide.
Yeah, I should have reached out to Josh Zide.
That would have been weird.
Although not as weird as you were, as you reaching out to my assistant baseball coach at high school.
To be fair, I didn't reach out to that person.
Julia just put out the call to the people that they reached out to him.
Okay, yeah.
But no, genuinely, make it the best year yet.
That's very nice.
Yep.
I will close with my final question for you.
You get to choose which of these Noah Becker questions you want to answer.
Oh, goodness.
Rank your siblings in order, no ties permitted, or what disappoints you the most about your personal relationship with Bo?
Well, I'm not ranking my siblings.
So then I guess I have to answer the other one.
I don't want to.
And by the way, shout out to John Pituhaus for an unbelievable question that I'm not going to ask, but did make me laugh and was perfectly framed.
I don't want to get.
You're amazing.
I mean, give me something, you know.
I would say there, there'll be one, there, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's six.
Wait, hold on.
Let me get to the top ten.
No, I would never use the word disappoint.
Well, I mean, once a compliment, you're, you're an outstanding writer.
I miss reading you at the same volume before, but I look forward to, to when you do write, it's awesome.
But no, I, I would say for the, I don't know if we want to get into this.
I'm serious.
show i i think that there are times when uh if i abstain from a question or a topic then you frame
it as if like it's an endorsement of of that topic so there are um there are audience members who
make who like speculate about whether it's like political or like social or the opinions that i might
have simply because i don't engage in the conversation and so i i i i i i i
I wish sometimes you didn't frame it in a way that because I don't engage in the conversation,
that therefore, like, I'm endorsing X, Y, or Z.
But, of course, if you cared about what people thought about your opinions on those topics,
you could voice them yourself.
No, but, like, like, there was something a few weeks ago where, where you said,
you said Harrison Bucker can go to hell, okay, on the show.
And I was like, and so just because, like, I was, I moved on, it's like, like, someone said
to me, like, I was endorsing it.
Well, that's not my framing.
That's not me framing, you're framing.
That's, I said my thing and you didn't choose to.
Yeah, so I, that's not on me.
Okay.
There are times when I...
Someone says, where was ZB on January 6th?
There are times when I do this.
That is true.
Yes.
But the Bucker one is not one of them, but I'm speaking for myself.
And Harrison Bucker can't go to hell.
Or like, yeah, Sheriff Joe.
I didn't know who that Sheriff Joe guy was.
No, I think in general, I think that one thing
that I try to embrace is like diversity of thought and that like I people are allowed to disagree.
I like someone going to have an opinion that I disagree with but I you know reasonable people can't
disagree now there's sometimes when it's like clearly black and white and like but I also don't
think I personally don't use this as a forum to explain my social or political or but also I'll
I'll say for, I'll just say this real quick, okay?
There's like, there's people who say one thing about me.
Then they're like, then they make fun of me for like in the West Wing.
And it's like, you could probably read into my love for the West Wing.
You could probably like take that a step further in certain things.
But because I don't provide commentary on stuff, it gets a sign.
I really don't want to get into that.
I try to, I want everyone to love this show and enjoy our show.
And I am here for all viewers and listeners to...
Kickers buy shoes too.
Well, yeah.
I mean, yeah, I don't want, I want everyone to enjoy the show.
And I also think, I mean, not to get deep,
but I think sometimes people come to this show as an escape
from what they hear everywhere else.
And so I'm not saying you have to take that approach,
but that's the approach that I take.
And so I might disappoint.
even come sometimes when when I abstain from an opinion that it gets viewed as like an
endorsement of the other side.
Okay.
But.
Thank you very much for the cake.
Absolutely.
I hope that's not too deep.
It's good.
You spoke your mind.
Happy birthday.
Thank you very much.
Yeah.
We will be back tomorrow at noon live from the RFK Jr.
Uh, and speech with Aaron Rogers.
We're going to be there covering it.
It's actually going to speak his mind on that.
And then we're going to go from there.
going to be Medical Freedom Week here on the PHAI Eagles podcast.
Back at noon tomorrow, noon on Thursday, noon on Friday.
Lots of more to talk about.
Thank you for all the questions.
We will probably dig into a few of these more as the week goes on.
Nice that we were able to have an acceptable version of a mailbag.
I think that's fair.
We will talk to you tomorrow.
Thanks to everybody for the happy birthday wishes.
Happy birthday to Jacques Cousteau, I believe, shares the birthday.
And Vince Lombardi.
Ah, that's a good company.
There you go.
For all of us here at the PHLY Eagles podcast,
thanks for watching.
We'll talk to you tomorrow.
And as always, we love you.
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