PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - PHLY Eagles Podcast | Philadelphia Eagles over/unders with Brandon Lee Gowton: Will Jalen Hurts throw fewer INTs?

Episode Date: July 1, 2024

It’s the heat of the silly season, so we’ve invited a friend along to play a game. Brandon Lee Gowton of Bleeding Green Nation joins the PHLY Eagles podcast for a round of made-up over/unders about the Eagles’ 2024 season. Will Jalen Hurts improve his TD-INT ratio? Will Tanner McKee throw a pass? Will the triumvirate of head coach and coordinators remain the same all year long?Join BLG and Bo Wulf for a fun July episode on Paul George Day. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Lee Gouton of Bleeding Green Nation is in studio for some homemade over-under is about the Philadelphia Eagles' 24 season. Coming up next on the P.H.O.Y. Eagles podcast. Eagles podcast on a Monday afternoon, high noon, Bo Wolf, and Brandon, Lee Gowton in studio taking the place of Zach Berman. BLG, nice to see you. How you doing? Once upon a time, a prodigious Eagles podcaster in your own right. That's right. Once upon a time, honor to be here with

you both honored to be you know filling the shoes of Zach I would say huge shoes to fill obviously this is a height joke in there if you don't know I'm six foot nine flex yeah shoehorn that in right from the jump but big honor to be here with you as well not to make you feel old but I used to watch you and CMAC and Dave Svedero back on Eagles live when I was in high school so cool to be here well thank you very much and and as I just learned back when you were probably using a pseudonym. Probably. We got the whole, the whole backstory of, like,

and I've been wondering, and I've been wanting to ask you for a long time, but the Lee in Brandon Lee Gowton, is it part of a two-part first name? Is it the middle name? Is it a Lee Gowton at the end? And you gave me the story. Yeah, so shout out to my dad,

who a big Bruce Lee fan. Okay. And that's why I was named after Bruce Lee's son, who tragically passed away, filming the crow. But I am named after Bruce Lee's son. And originally was writing under first and middle name because I wasn't ready to put the last name out there. Just in case.

Yeah. You know, you know, don't want to get dots. Yeah. Never be too careful. But then kind of became a full-time thing. So I had to commit. Here you are. And we've got an exciting episode.

So just like you are stepping in for Zach today, I am sort of stepping in for Jimmy Kempski. That's right. In the iteration of a long-running game between the two of you in which you guys make up homemade over-unders. And you and I are going to take part in that. I'm excited for it. And people just, you know, you got to play the hits that people want to know, just so I know. Is it Paul George or is it George Paul? I think it's Paul George.

Okay. Yeah. You feel good about that? I kind of feel like I think most people do in that like probably the best thing they could have done given the circumstances that aren't ideal. But I hate to admit it. I hate to be Negedophian off the top. But the Celtics winning kind of just was like, I just don't know. what the point is anymore.

Yeah. Yeah. That's hard to disagree with. But, you know, it is. It's the best they could have done, right? And they still got a little bit of space left to fill out the roster. We'll see. The guys on the PHLI Sixers podcast have been doing an awesome job all weekend and a great job on the emergency podcast this morning that I was listening to.

Check that out. As we see, Zach Berman in the chat live, the man just cannot step away. I tried to pull down the seat a little bit or just it, but I'm I couldn't figure it out. So I feel good. I feel like we're at a reasonable level here. It's like, Zach, come back to the beach. No, I got to watch these over-unders.

Do you want to go first or should I? I think you should start it off. The guest starts. And I should mention, too, these polls are going to be on bleeding greenation. com, you know, once this episode is posted and whatnot. So people listening, listeners, the readers of BGN, listeners of P. H.L.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.

Eagles podcast can also participate and get in on the competition as a collective. But yeah, thank you. Absolutely. Yeah. Bleedingurion.com. I presume that you already know that if you're watching this episode. But yes, check it out.

All right, I'm going to start with the quarterback. And here's my one for Jillen Hertz for you, the LG. Over under a 2 to 1 touchdown to interception ratio for Jalen Hertz in 2024, not just for context. He has only done better than. than this once in his three years as a starter. That was obviously in 2022. Last year, 23 touchdowns, 15 interceptions.

2022, 22 touchdowns, only six interceptions. And then the year before that, 16 touchdowns, nine interceptions. How do you think that Jay Leonard's basically, is he going to have a good year? Yeah. So let me, because I'm dumb in this circumstance at least. What constitutes over or under? Yeah, yeah. I think over would be he, he,

has a good year basically i'm gonna be the ratio is more like three to one right as opposed to yeah i'm gonna take the over on that and i think it comes down to ultimately big picture i think i'm kind of in the middle on jail and hurts which isn't a fun place to be for the sake of entertainment you know you can't sit the yeah take wise yeah but from a standpoint of i think there are things from last year where people are too harsh on him and i'm like i think that you're not being gracious enough and i think there are some things where actually he was great and you can't even complain about him at all and i think that's It's a little too favorable.

So I think ultimately I expect the interceptions to come down. It felt like a little uncharacteristic last year. It felt like there was some bad luck baked in there. Kind of like Dak had the year before. Yes. Where last year it was such a no-brainer, his interceptions were going to come down. And it also felt like he got a little bit lucky in 2022, where there were some that he probably should have thrown. And so there was an expectation that even in 2023, like he's going to throw him on interceptions.

It does feel like this should be closer to the middle this time around. And by the way, we're each going to pick both of these. And because we need to make it just a little bit more complicated, the two of us each get one best bet, which is going to count as two points when we look back on this. And you can only do your best bet on someone else's proposal. So you're not going to do it just yet, but just keep that in mind. So you're going to go over. You're going to say he's going to do better than that touchdown interception ratio. I will also go over, but I do think it will be close.

It's hard to bet against. I mean, not that he's perfect, but like, I feel like typically the people betting against Jelen Hertz, like that, that's not always the best bet. You don't be on that side. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that's what I lean towards. There are questions. So, again, I don't feel amazing about it, but I lean that way. Okay.

Over to you. I'm going to go with the backup quarterback to start out. And, you know, one of these guys is your guy. And I feel like you made a mistake here. I'm sorry to call you out in your own show. I feel like you should have rode harder for Tanner McKee to your credit, though, because I feel like you were. really early on him in training camp last year. It is a regret.

It's not your kind of... I should have trusted my eyes. It's not your type. That's the problem. The same thing that happened with Reed Blankenship. It's, uh, you know, what? The eyes are able to overcome my implicit biases. You know, just like, but if you stuck with it, I think it would have been a great call.

I'm going to go with more past attempts for the Eagles of the season. So, you know, we're doing over under, but some of these I think are either or, you know, Kenny Pickett or Tanner McKee, who was more past attempts for the Eagles of the season. deals this season. Now I did have on here Tanner McKee over under 0.5 pass attempts. So I'll take that off the board. I do think that the answer is picket. I would like to ride hard for Tanner. And, you know, Zach and I were batting around the ideas of like, who could they still trade potentially if you were going to trade from strength and not trading for something. Like if somebody suffers a quarterback injury elsewhere, they could they could flip picket potentially.

but I just think that part of their reason for trading picket is not just because they think he's a better option now but because they see the like the upside of flipping it and that's not going to happen if pickets and if McKee is the number two right they're trying to rehabilitate his value so I would lean picket but you know I think it should be McKee but I would I wouldn't for for this game I'll take picket so we're going to go chalk here early because I agree with you I do think I wanted to part of the reason of doing this is bringing up topics. Of course. Touch on.

I feel like I would like to see Tanner McKee. I feel like the Eagles owe giving him a fair chance to win the number two. They don't owe him. It's not that they needed to make him the number two automatically, but I think they owe him a shot at it. And I don't think he's going to get that, unfortunately, because I think Kenny Pickett's going to be exclusively the quarterback two in training camp. And McKee will get a chance to show something in the preseason, I'm sure.

But ultimately, I think he's in a tough spot. I would like to see McKee get a fair chance to win the job. I thought Pickett looked probably better than you did in spring practices. Not he looked amazing, but I thought he looked solid and better than I expected. To be fair, my expectations are really low. So it should be a fun quarterback battle. Unfortunately, I don't think it will be. Do you think, you know, like the messaging from the Novacare complex after they traded for Kenny Pickett was like,

this doesn't say anything about how we feel about Tanner McKee. We're still very high on Tanner McKee. This is just an opportunity to get a starting caliber quarterback as the kid. the backup. Do you believe that? Does that pass the sniff test for you? I think it's just the experience thing for them. I think they're really keen on having someone who's actually played before. I think it's too much of a projection for them for McKee. So I don't think they're sour on McKee. I just think it's it's like, hey, we only saw him in preseason. He's never played in a real game. We just we don't fully trust that because it's never happened. And I think there's the allure of,

you know, Kenny Pickett, former first round pick that's in there as well. So I think it's more ultimately about just wanting that experience. I just think that like the entire idea of drafting Tanner McKee in the fifth round is that if he hits, you have a cost, you have a cheap backup quarterback, right? Because otherwise they're going to spend on that position. And if you're paying Gillen Hertz, this is a place that you can save a little bit of money. And if they're now paying Kenny Pickett, which they're not paying him a ton of money, they're still saving.

And that's part of the reason you give up the draft capital. But if Pickett's here for both of the next two years, then you're only getting McKee for one year. And then you're going to have to pay him, even if you like him. So I don't know. I think it's impossible to say that their evaluation of Tanner McKee isn't a factor in some way. Like if they loved him, then they wouldn't have made that trade. But I guess it doesn't mean that they don't like him. Right.

Okay. Can I give you one more Jalen Hertz one? Yeah. All right. I'm going to, um, this is something of a push push-ish question. Okay. 49 and a half rushing first downs for Jalen Hertz in 2024. I'll give you the context here.

Last three seasons. last year he was second in the entire NFL was 68 the year before that he was third in the NFL with 67 and in 2021 he had 56 so I'm dropping it down a little bit here you know I'm baking in some injury possibility and are they going to lean as heavily on him in short yard situations now that they have sayquan barkley and a different center that's a great question did you take the over I haven't decided Yeah. Okay. Because it's... I probably should have written mine beforehand, yeah. I just, I worry about being so chalk.

But I think I'm going to have to go over. I think Hertz, you know, wasn't... We all know, like, he wasn't quite there with the legs last year. Like, I think, you know, less than he might ever be, relatively speaking, at least early on in his career. So I would expect him to be more involved with that. And until I see the tush push, like, not be the thing with him. I'm just going to assume it is the thing with him.

And they're going to keep... doing that until I see otherwise. So, and because of the numbers you said as well, it's hard to bet against it for me. I mean, obviously to consider the injury and whatnot too. But I'm going to stay over on that one. Yeah, I mean, I don't want to keep picking the same one. I do want to take the, oh, you know what, I'll go under on this one. Okay.

Just because there are, there are some paths. I don't want to, I don't want to root for him to get injured. But I think it's possible that, uh, the problem is that like, I think he's going to run more in scramble situations than he did last year. but I do think the tush push, I don't think they're getting rid of it, but I think they may not spam it quite as much as they have. Do you think they might do that in part as like a, like to appease, you know, the complaint? That would be a silly reason to do it.

But I feel like there is some like, like we kind of have to tone it down maybe a little bit. Maybe. Yeah, I think that's possible. I mean, we know that they're rabid, rabineered to some degree. By the way, before you give you the next one, we have a super chat from Defop himself. Oh my gosh. R.B., Rich Bobby, who says, shout out to BLG and Jimmy Kemsky. looking forward to whatever you both do next podcast-wise love you too which who knows this is the next

thing but i look forward to the next thing after that right yeah all right over to you okay let's do one of the eagles you know maybe arguably their most prolific off-season acquisition big name value wise we'll do sayquan barkley i'll do scrimmage yards oh 1,263.5 which that is basically you know So 1,263 is what D'Andre Swift had last year. So do you think, Cicron Barclay is going to have more or fewer in this case or less? Fewer? Yeah, you got it. Fewer than DeAndre Swift did last year.

Yeah, I mean, I feel like we're going to continue to go chalk here. But if he stays healthy, it's hard not to think that that would not hit the over. I think they're going to be more willing to give him the ball than they were with Dandre Swift. I think that's the entire reason for spending on him. So I'm going to take the over, but I don't feel great about it. I'm going to be the villain here. All right. I'm going to go the younger.

Good for you. Somebody's got to be the heel. The Sequin thing has been tough for me to reconcile as someone who also used to podcast about the NFC East as a whole, the NFC East mixed tape for longtime listeners or for newer listeners, really, I guess who wouldn't recognize it. But every year we do like an underrated, overrated. players in the division. Me, my co-host, R. J. Ochoa.

And, like, Sequin was often my most overrated player. Sure. So it's not that he's bad. You know, overrated doesn't mean bad. I just think because of fantasy football, I think because of, you know, the prestige of the number two pick because he's a localish person from Penn State. There's just so much, I think, baked into, like,

the idea of Seekwan versus the reality of Seekwan, who I think will be fine this year. But I don't have, like, these lofty expectations. And coming up with this one, I was kind of wondering, like, what is a successful season, you know, for Sequin Barclay? What is, how do the Eagles kind of like? What does that look like? How does that feel?

I'm going to go under on this just because injury is baked in. I think that he could have a very similar year to what the others have had last year. Yeah, I think I don't disagree that the idea that like Saquanne Barclay in reputation, like it's outsized versus his production. I mean, he hasn't had, he's had two really good seasons, right? and one special season. And like five or four or five years ago. Right. And six years ago.

I like it is absolutely true that he has been in one of the worst situations for a running back in the entire league with a bad quarterback and a terrible offensive line and nobody else to take the attention away from opposing defenses. And now he's going to be in an absolutely ideal situation. Like that is going to change things. And I think that he does still have big playability. Sure. And I think that is what like.

the success like is this a success it probably comes down to are there five plays over the course of the season where d'andre swift wouldn't have turned this into you know a 30-yard gain and might have got tackled in the backfield and he's able to do that and in the fourth quarter are they able to lean on him and grind out those you know you know four-minute drive off four-minute offense type drives that they had in 2017 right where they can give him the ball and they can have a 13 play drive that ices the clock if they can lean on him as like a to do the things that a star running back is supposed to be able to do, then I think it will be successful. But I also think, you know, if I'm if I'm betting on is Sequin

Barker going to be worth the contract that he signed, then I'm probably definitely going to say no. Right. Yeah, it's a high bar there, especially each what like, you know, top five kind of running back money. And, you know, this is such like a small sample thing that might not matter at all. But just like even seeing him during the spring, like I didn't see, oh my gosh, like that's Sequin. Like, that's the difference in terms of like a highlight play. Again, that's not the end of the world. But I just feel like that's a setting in theory where he might, you know, pop at least one time.

He did look like way different than any Eagles running back. I think I've honestly ever seen his physique. Like that, that stood out in a big way. But besides that, I kind of forgot he was there sometimes. I agree with that. And there was, I have a snapshot in my mind of he's running a wheel. I know you're talking about. Yeah.

And I think it was, Devin White was running with him. And he's not running. I think it was, well, there was two. There's one with, uh, yeah, Zach Bond, right. He's not like running away from him. Now he's got a step. And also you would think, okay, if this is part of the offense, Jalen Hertz should throw this ball.

Like, let's see what it looks like. And he didn't throw the ball. And Jalen Hertz hasn't historically thrown the ball to running backs. And so like the theory of him, and we talked about this, I talked about this with Fran on Friday of like, is he really going to change what the passing game looks like from a running back perspective? I don't think so.

Yeah. I think he's here to be what he can be. as a running back and less so as a receiver. Yeah, that's where I'm also kind of a little bit skeptical in that number. I don't think like, it's basically how do you feel about the rushing guards from that projection more than like, do you think he's really going to go off as a receiver? All right, I have another running back one for you in that case. Will Shipley.

Zach Berman's guy. And I think Zach and I are going to get a little more into Will Shipley on tomorrow's episode. Okay. Will Shipley over under 12 and a half catches. Now, Zach is making the kick. case that Will Shilley's going to be the number two running back. Here, I will give you the catches for the running backs over the last three years. Last year, DeAndre Swift 39, Kenny Gainwell 30, Boston Scott 4.

2022. Kenny Gainwell 23, Miles Sanders 20, Boston Scott 5. And the year before, Kenny Gainwell 33, Miles Sanders 26, Boston Scott 13. Man, I'm not like the biggest Will Shipley believer, but he might have had like 12 catches in that practice that one day. Like that didn't that seemed. And that's also not to harp on Sequin, but part of why like if Will Shipley is like doing some things in the passing game and practice. Like why couldn't I see like Sequin do that one time? Yeah, I think they're so thin at running back.

I feel like there's just and I worry about the Sequin health a little bit where I think there's an opportunity. And I don't think Gainwell is so great that, you know, Chiply can't kind of factor in there at some point. So it feels a little like I might regret this looking back when I tally up the results after the season. But I'll go over. I think they might have some kind of role for him. Okay.

I kind of would lean towards the over, but I think I cannot look myself in the mirror and host this show and look at you people. Just for the bit. I got to take the under. Just, I mean, what else are we doing here? Yeah. All right. I'll let you do one more, and then I'll give us an ad read.

So knock on wood, not trying to jinx anything here, but A.J. Brown plus Devante Smith regular season games played combined. Ooh. So the sum of those two numbers, max being 34 for the 17 game season, I'm setting at 30 and a half. And A.J. hasn't missed a regular season game in Philly since the Eagles traded for him. Devante Smith missed one last year. Probably maybe could have played if, you know, the Eagles had something to. play for maybe not but you know obviously have been extremely healthy are young in their prime in theory should be available but it just kind of feels like you know can they keep getting this

fortunate especially with the wide receiver depth being like kind of thinner than ever it just feels like you're tempting fate a little bit i agree with that my have i i also have a combined one which we will get to in a little bit but i mean it's no fun to bet against health uh so i'm going to take the over but i don't feel great about it and i think you're right like AJ Brown, before he came to Philadelphia, had a reputation as like a guy who got banged up often and missed a lot of time, and that was the case. And, you know, Devante entering the draft,

that was a knock on him. I'm less worried about him than AJ Brown for sure. Also, not for nothing, incentive-wise. Both of these guys just got paid, right? So it's not like they have to chase a number to up their market value, like they're locked into long-term contracts. If it's on the fence, they don't need to push it. So like

Objectively I think I would take the under I don't want to be that guy so I'll take the over But I think it's you've done a good job and this is a nice Opportunity for arbitrage for you because I think as the heel you can you can be comfortable and taking the under So it basically like one IR stint which is why I picked you know 30 and a half Yeah if he misses if they go an IR then it's it's the under So I'm gonna take the over I'm not gonna go heal on this one just because I believe in those guys a lot but I do think like that is,

it has to be acknowledged that Eagles have been very fortunate with those two in these cases. And I still think even with the receiver depth there being kind of a little suspect. I mean, having one of those two guys is obviously incredible. So many teams would kill it just have won. So should be acknowledged.

I'll give you my other one. We'll stay on it. So A.J. Brown and Devante Smith last year, the two of them combined for 62% of the Eagles receiving yards, just the two of them. The year before, it was 61.7%.

All the Eagles receiving yards, the two of those guys, that's what they did. This year I'm putting it at 60.9. So I'm dropping it down a little bit, close to a 69, yeah. But so we're baking it in the injury possibility here. But as you talked about, they seem shallower here than ever. Are the Eagles just going to funnel all their passes even more so to AJ Brown and Devante Smith? Well, if I'm going with the over here in terms of the games played, I'm going to say that, know they're both healthy they stay healthy and they do indeed continue to dominate the target share

here um Dallas got her so weird such a weird season last year like I don't think he's a bad player but the results weren't really there and again I don't think either of us are fully buying the sayquan being this major factor in the passing game yet so until proven otherwise I'm just going to continue to lean in that direction and if I regret betting on them then I can live with that I will, I will zag here. I'm going to take the under because there is the injury possibility baked in. There's also if Dallas Goddard has, you know, he missed so much time last year if he doesn't miss time. And like if they find somebody who can be a third option in the passing game, if Kellan Moore wants to do something a little bit different with the target distribution, there's a little bit of a path here.

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They're going with a, what's the movie? Uncut Gems. Yeah, Uncut Gems. Reference. I appreciate that. I'm such a sick, man. Okay. I'm going to give you the Dallas Goddard one that I have since we were talking about Dallas

Goddard. In 2003, Dallas Goddard dropped down his superpower of yards after catch. He was sixth among tight ends with 5.5 years. yak per reception, according to NFL's next-gen stats. 2002, he was second among tight ends at 7.9, and 2021, he was third at 7.0. So my question for you here is over under Dallas Goddard's rank among tight ends in the NFL in yak per reception, and it's four and a half. So will he be in the top four? So why would it go down?

You know what I mean in terms of like, why did it go down last year? I think maybe because of where he's being targeted, it seemed like a little bit more. Because, again, it's hard to. Is he less physical? Is it the stagnation of the offense? They're not creating the space for him to utilize as much. I guess I'm going to go over just because he's done it in the past.

I still think the talent is there. Hold on. Let's clarify. Over you're saying is better. You think he will be top four. I think he will be top four. Because I still believe in the talent there. And I'm guessing the offense will give him a better chance to succeed than it did.

maybe last year. I'm thinking that's possible. It's weird, again, because the results haven't been there. You look at it from the big picture and you're like, just how good is he? Is Dallas Goddard kind of overrated? Again, not a bad player, but just does the reputation precede him a bit? In this case, I'm still banking on the talent.

I'm going to pull Zach here. I'm going to go with the pedigree and the prestige and say that better, more favorable. Yeah, this is tough because even last year, when he, you know, was so down in this category. He was still only sixth. So he only needs to move up two spots. But then again, top four, that's a heavy bet. I'm going to take, I will take what is, I guess, the under in this.

I will say he doesn't reach the top four. For whatever reason, maybe there's just more tight ends who are turning into yak guys. I was going to say there's some good young tight ends coming up. The porter end there. Some other ones that I can't think of at the moment. Dalton Kincaid. Yeah. Trey McBride.

Kyle Pitts, maybe this is the year? Maybe this is the year. All right, over to you. I'm going to go with a, this is the one I considered cutting, but we'll include it in here. Paris Campbell targets at 46.5. I came up with that number. Under. There you go.

That's my best bet. Fair. Again, I didn't feel great about this one. I might regret this. I came up with 46.5 because Kwez Watkins averaged about 2.7 the past two years. Targets per game extrapolated that over the course of 17. game season. It is an easy bet to take the under from a standpoint of Paris Campbell mostly hasn't been

good. I'm guaranteed to make the team, right? But someone has to be the wide receiver three. Sure. So I will inadvisibly go over. I will say the one one takeaway I had from training camp and maybe OTAs and mini camp, maybe I'm making too much of this. I thought you talk about this a lot.

I've heard you talk about this a lot, the importance of this. like Jalen Hertz trust in a receiver, his willingness to throw to a receiver. And it's not like Campbell was a target monster and obviously some of those practices that are missing, Devante. But I saw some level of Jalen Hertz and trusting Paris Campbell

that makes me think he will consider throwing to him as opposed to like Albert O last year or whoever else. So I'm going to go over and then really regret this, I'm sure later. Okay, that's a good one. You want to know what my Paris Gamble want? We don't necessarily need to count that. this one, but this is what it was, was all of those, like, DOA wide receiver screens in the offense

last year, right? I have over, and this is how Paris Campbell was used with the Giants last year, over under four and a half catches within two yards of the line of scrimmage for Paris Campbell. How many? Four and a half. Yeah. Under. Okay, that's good. That would be good for the offense. Whether he's on the team or not, that would be good for the offense. All right. Should we, I, I don't. I'll give you one more offense,

then you can give me one more offense, and then we'll transition to the defensive side of the loss. Would you like a Johnny Wilson? Would you like a Grant Calcutera? Or would you like another AJ Brown, DeBonte Smith one? Let's do with Johnny Wilson. I like Johnny Wilson. He kind of showed me something a little bit in spring practice.

I agree with that. I would say that he was the one who intrigued me the most of the options beyond the top two. Johnny Wilson over under 99.5 receiving yards. Pretty boilerplate here. only eight sixth round picks over the past three seasons as rookies had more than 100 yards receiving as wide receivers and only three topped 200 yards. Yeah, I don't feel amazing about the bet. I know our good friend, Shil Kapati, always talks about the impact of day three receivers and how that's not great. But I think what Johnny Wilson can do in theory is offer big playability.

So I'm going to lean into that. And we saw that in spring practices where I thought Isaiah Rogers, who had a phenomenal. spring uh johnny wilson one of the few people to make a play over him and simply in part because he was just taller than him i do think that's johnny wilson's game is like being a downfield kind of threat that's kind of like you don't think of him as a burner and traditional burner but because of his size and his athleticism i think he has that ability so i'm going to lean into maybe he just has a couple big catches sprinkled over the course of the season and i'm also going to hedge against my paris campbell bet here okay and acknowledge there's room for him but to potentially enter the

offense. My heart says over here, I mean, the history is overwhelmingly in favor of the under. So I guess I'm going to take the under and not feel super excited about it. But I do, I believe a little bit in Johnny Wilson. I think you made the smart bet. Yeah, I made the, I'm thinking with my heart more than my head in this case. That's okay. You're romantic. That's what people say. I have one that involves one of the bigger Not a true camp battle in terms of its open competition But one of the spots to watch And that is the right guard spot for the Eagles

I want to go with more snaps played at right guard Tyler Steen the favorite or the field Good line And I gotta be at right guard At right guard specifically yes This is really good And if this was at a sports book, I think it would be like minus 130 or something like that for Steen. But I'm going to take the field.

Ooh. Because I do, my spidey sense is up about the way that they have treated him since he's been here. We've talked about it a lot, you know, gave him a chance last year, didn't earn the spot that they were hoping that he would get. Sue Lepeda starts over him. Not like they love Sue Lepeda. They let him walk in free agency. then they are bringing in all these guys in the draft that they would have drafted over him. Siriani forgets his name.

And I think that the Mackay-Bectin possibility is real. So I think Steen is the most likely answer at right guard. If I was betting on, is he going to be the week one right guard? I would say yes. But there's also injury baked in here. And so I'm going to take the field. I'm going to go with Steen. I think that's the right bet.

I think they want him to succeed. And that doesn't mean I think they're like definitely 100% believe in him. But I think they want to give him every chance to fail as I guess is how I'll put it before they insert Beckton or whoever else in there. My thing with Steen and I say this a lot on BGN radio and Jimmy and I are kind of lockstep on this. And I feel like it doesn't always get as much talk about elsewhere in the beat is like what if Tyer Steen's just a tackle? Because I thought he looked really good at tackle. Yeah. in camp last year. He looks so much better at tackle, yes. And also conceptually, like, okay,

and also why he would struggle. And I think it's not the end of the world that Opetta played over him last year. This is a guy who played defensive tackle in college, who then moved to offensive tackle, who then had to move to guard. It gets a lot of, you know, moving parts there. So I think it could take him more time. I'm not like 100% convinced that he's an amazing guard and great player all around. But I think there's talent there. I just don't know. they have the right fit for him. I don't know. And it might be a situation where, like,

he might be better at tackle, but it's just not super viable because he's the ideal frame there. So he kind of just gets caught in this no man's land, and I'm kind of worried that's the case. I don't believe that, like, he's just a bad player and they miss the evaluation entirely. I think it's more about the fit.

I think that's reasonable. Yeah. I don't, yeah, I don't think there's any reason to think that he's not a good player just yet. I just, their actions have told us a little bit more than what their words have said. so far sure okay all right i'll go to the defensive side of the ball a very uh down the middle one here nolan smith over under three and a half sacks i'm a nolan smith guy i really like you know i

kudos to zack the biggest nolan smith guy for i really predicting you know the eagles would draft him in the first round now he's really celebrating on his vacation another my tie please um i really believe in nolan smith but and i think i mean he should he should have played more than he did last year. I don't I don't care. Yes. Like even if he was there was times he was struggling and it was I think they tried to shoehorn him in a little bit in a way where like I wanted to see him rust the passer more than they did especially you know they cut Barnett like the opportunity. They were hurting for someone to take snaps and it's not a good signal that they didn't trust him to do that. But I think part of it

is on this coaching staff too which has been reluctant at times to play young guys to a detriment to a fault. And now I think they're in a spot where it's kind of sink or swim. They have to use him more than they did. I thought he flashed a little bit. Enough for me to still believe. His best game was probably the playoff game. Yeah. I think there's some juice there.

And I think it's weird because I think probably the only person on the entire team who can say that. Yeah. Well, wait, in the playoff game. That his best game of the season was the playoff game. Maybe Devante too. Yeah, up there.

But sure, like one of two. I think there's some pass rush juice there. And I think, you know, in theory, the liability with him is, oh, he's smaller, can't defend the run. I think he's really, at the very least, I think he's really, at the very least, I think he's really good at defending the run. Is the pass rush there? Is the size of concern?

There's a lot of question marks, but as a Nolan Smith guy, I have to bank on the over. Okay. I mean, if you were talking to yourself when they drafted him, and you said in year two,

can he get four sacks? And that would be seen as like something of a success. That would be pretty disappointing, right? A first round pass rusher, the expectations are extremely low. Yeah, let's say they didn't have the Jalen Carter pick. Like they just, like, Nolan Smith was their pick at 30,

and that was your perception of their first round that year. Yeah, it would be a disaster. I think I'm going to take the under. I'm not going to feel good about that. Like, I think there's probably more likely that he hits the over here. But if, you know, if Zach's guy, Josh Schwett is taking all those snaps, and Bryce Huff is playing a lot more, maybe Nolan Smith's role is less as a as a pure third down pass rusher and more of something that, you know,

Vic Fangio can play with a little bit in space. Maybe that's what they lean into more. And I think maybe that is his value and less so just as a pure go get the quarterback kind of guy. So I'm going to take the under, but I don't feel I don't feel great about it. I have one that is along the lines of sacks. I'm going with higher sack total here. Milton Williams, your boy. Yeah.

Not Zach's boy, right? No, he hates him, yeah. He does Zach, yeah. Who does Zach eat more? Devante Parker or Milton Williams? I mean, Devante Parker, I feel like that's, Zach's entire vacation is paid by him betting against Devante Parker the time they signed him. That's true. Milton Williams or Derek Brown. Okay, well, let me look at this.

Now, Milton Williams had half a set. Oh, sorry, I have the context for you. Yeah, yeah. Milton William has 6.5 sacks in his career over three years. He only had half of a sack last year. Derek Brown has eight over four years. He only had two last year. Oh.

So it's close. Oh, you've baited me nicely here because I have to take Milton Williams. This is good. I mean, yeah, certainly the odds would be in favor of Derek Brown. But yeah, give me Milton. He's in a contract year. Derek Brown just got paid. I'm going to go Milton too.

I think you're thinking the right way. It's a big year for him. And I didn't know Derek Brown's sack totals were so low. I was like, he's a pro baller last? And Sachs aren't everything, but like, he's eight and four years. Zach used the fifth overall pick on a Jordan Davis run stuffer. I was originally between Davis and Derek Brown, but I had to do, you know, your side of the table.

I appreciate that. That's a good one. Here's my Jalen Carter one for you. One thing that we have talked about a lot this spring is what might be a tension between the way that the Eagles typically want to rotate their defensive line and the way that Vic Fangio has done it with the defense. defensive tackles that he has had in the past, right? Christian Wilkins last year played more

more snaps than any defensive tackle in the league. Last year, Jalen Carter played 48% of the snaps and for context, Fletcher Cox led the group with 59% of the defensive snaps. I'm going to say 58% of the defensive snaps for Jalen Carter. Oh, I'm going to make this my best bet. I'm going to go over.

Okay. You're going to lean on him hard. I think, yeah. I mean, that was like a big big time. I mean, Jayon Carter himself said like, not that he wasn't focusing on technique and getting better, but he was like to the point of like, that was my number one thing was conditioning. And Vic Fangio being coming out right and saying that basically in his press conference.

And then what Jordan Davis had to say, like they're very, they've set the table very much for like, hey, you're going to have to play like a lot of snaps. So you better be like in tip top shape. And also- You think that's a good thing?

I mean, I think there's a point of overusing him. But conceptually, like he's their best player. So he should be on the field. I think more than last year, sure. But I think not a good thing when it comes to the point where they were at last year

when the pass rush died, I think in part because the guys were exhausted from the weird scheduling and whatnot, but also just because the rotation wasn't heavy enough. Yeah, I agree. I think it might be a short-sighted thing. Now, you know, Vic Fangio knows infinitely better than I do, but the Eagles for so long have leaned so heavily

into this rotation. it's part of the reason I think that they have had successful pass rushes over the years even when they haven't had like stars and so it's it's very much on my radar as a potential concern but I guess I will I guess I will take the over here but I don't I'm a little bit skeptical but I'm going to take the I'll join you on the over okay this one I hope I paired it right because I was playing around with it I was trying to make it so it's not too obvious trying to make it 50 50 more defensive snaps played So these are combos. Oh, okay. I like that. The combo of Isaiah Rogers and Cooper to Jean, or the combo of Keely Ringo and Quigioninichael.

The latter. Okay. Quinean Mitchell and Keillinger, I don't think it's easy because in theory, those two guys are competing with each other, right? So I think it's most likely that one of those two is the starter. But I'm, I mean, I like Isaiah Rogers. My understanding is he was the star of the Devante Smith softball game this weekend.

Yeah. Big off season for him. Big off season for him. But even if Cooper de Jeanne is the nickel week one, he's not on the field every snap. And I think it's much more likely that one of Ringo or Quignon-Mitchell is on the field every snap. So give me that duo. Okay. You're making me feel like I did pick it. I did organize it well, hopefully, because of what you're saying, the reasoning.

I think, you know, it is either Keely or Quignon starting from those two. I'm going to go, I'm going to lean into Isaiah Rogers. Interesting. I really, I just, I don't want to make too much. Are you, is, are you the reason? Are you the man behind the Isaiah Rogers hype? I don't think I was originally. Okay.

I was also kind of like, you know, let me see it. The way he moved. I think he looked, he had a fantastic spring. There's no doubt about that. I'm not trying to be like two like football guy. Like, I just saw him with my own eyes. And, you know, the way he moved. But honestly, the way he broke on the ball, it just looked different to me than the other

cornerbacks. The interception he had of Jailen. hurts on that. It was really, really nice. And he read that perfectly well. And I thought otherwise was pretty active. Now, again, although he mostly had a good spring, he's only 5'10 that worked against him in the Johnny Wilson situation. That would work against a lot of players, but especially him, only being 510 as opposed to key leaves, like 6-2, 6-1, Quinnuan right around there as well. I'm going to go with Rogers because I think he has a legitimate chance to start. I think the veteran might have the edge with Vic Fangio

and the way this coaching staff hasn't always loved playing young guys and the fact that Cooper de Gene could have a role as a nickel wherever I feel like they're going to fit him in somewhere so I will get some kind of snaps there maybe not the ceiling isn't as high there but I think there's like a there's an easier floor to reach with Cooper to Jean snaps so I'm going to go with the combo of Rogers and DeGine over Keeley and Quignan yeah I mean I know that that Vic Fangio might lean towards the veteran, but I mean, we're talking about a guy just investment wise who was signed as a, like a hope and a prayer versus a guy who they traded a third round

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Mr. BLG. Nikobi Dean. Games in which Nikobi Dean is active but is not among the top two linebackers in snaps played in the game. Under.

One and a half. Oh, and a half. So you're saying... Is there a... Are you buying the idea that it's possible that Vic Fangio might start Zach Bonn over Nacobi Dean. I am and I have to lean into my priors here. And through two training camps,

I don't think there's been a single practice where I've been like, I see it with Nikobe Dean, which is like a long time. And maybe it's taking, maybe this is the year he takes off. But coming off the two foot injuries, not even being guaranteed to start based on what we saw so far in spring practices. And I know maybe working his way back in there a little bit. I just, I feel like I'm comfortable betting against him.

And if he proves me wrong, great for him. But I can't, I can't put any faith in him. I know it's a low number. But I'm going to take the under on it. Yeah, I made it one and a half. I know, you're taking the over then. Oh, so you're taking the over. You think it will be more games, yes.

At least two games in which he's active, but not a starter. Betting against Nikovi Dean. Yes. I made it one a half because I think there's a chance of like a Kenny Gainwell week one thing from last year. We're like, why are they doing? where, you know, Vic Fangio lets Zach Bonn play. I think it's more likely that he's displaced by like a trade acquisition or something like that or maybe somebody who they sign later.

I don't believe that they're really going to play Zach Bonn or Oren Burks over Nukobo Bedeen if Nekobie Dean is healthy. Then again, if he gets hurt again, then maybe he comes back and he doesn't have a job. So I actually, I think you're making the smart bet, but I'm going to take the under just because I don't know that they have somebody they can really play over him. Maybe it's Jeremiah Trotterrude. This is a deep cut. I like a brandon Smith. He's kind of like,

really like deep, you know, very deep cut. Don't even know if he'll meet the roster, but had a good special teams tackle last year. Saw some things in practice. He was running with the twos,

I think, with Nikobe at points in spring practices. So he's also like, much different body type. I would just say their biggest linebacker. Like I think I just believe in the size a little bit. So, you know,

you're biased. His name is Brandon. Yeah. So, you know. Big Brandon. I mean, all right.

I'll go against you in that one. Although I, I mean, I would say I'm generally fading to Kobe Dean a little bit. But yeah, I think that's fine. Over to you. I'm going to go with in the color scheme of the P.H.L.Y. Eagles podcast, the Kelly Green. Eagles announced their Kelly Green games last week. We have at least two.

In theory, there could be three. Right. Probably just two. They announced the two, which were week nine against the Jaguars and week 17 against the Cowboys. They went two and O in their Kelly. Green last year, wins over the Dolphins and Bills. I'm going to set Eagles wins with Kelly Green jerseys this year

at one and a half. Are you taking the over or under? I mean objectively, you should take the under because you pretend that every game is close to 50-50, so it's more likely they're going to go one-on-one. Cowboys should be good. I don't think they're going to lose

that Jaguars game. I'm going to take the under just because that's what the math tells me to do. I'm going to go, Over because it's a superpower. It's Kelly Green looks great. It looks great. It does look great. I think the players get excited.

I think they like it. I think there's something to them having the juice for those games. I don't worry about them coming out flat in the Kelly Green game. So, and they're big games. And I can't hate on the team too much or else everyone's going to get mad at me in the comments. So I'm going to say over on the one and a half. Nick Siriani. Oh.

Over under 0.5. apologies for his sideline behavior this. So, yeah, how are we constituting this? Like, publicly, like he actually has to do it. He has to in a press conference. It can't be like a source. He's not like reading. Like, I am so sorry. But he's like, yeah, you know, I shouldn't have done that.

Yeah, like I overreacted. It's not like Schefter reported he apologized. He has to be first-hand account. Yeah, but in a press conference or even caught on Mike or something like that, he walks back something that he's done on the sideline. well okay uh well on mike opens it up to like he's apologizing en masse it's not just like to one player right maybe like because i think he might yeah that's fair yeah okay um i'm gonna take over because

i think you know lorry talked about that at the owner's meetings like and i think you know he can't fully i don't want to say he can't control himself but i think he does get emotional worked up naturally yeah i mean i don't think that he can fully control himself yeah no situation And I think, you know, again, that's natural. I think there will be a time. He's more cognizant of it. And he does have to, he does apologize at some point. I'm going to go over with you just because this one's hard to litigate.

And so if we're on the same side, then there's less, less fuzziness. I have a few more here. I'm bouncing around. I got all kinds of. Eagles kick return touchdowns. They haven't had one since 2016. Do you know who did it? 2016.

Can you name? Oh, yeah, too, can you name? Now, that's the year that I was not paying attention as much. 2016, would it have been Darren Sprouls? It was another Chip Kelly favorite. Who played... Not Chris Polk. That was earlier.

Who played at the college he coached. Oh, Kayne-Barner. No? No. Not Bryce Huff. Oh, Josh Huff. Yeah, so half, you know, like shoehorning the new kickoff rule in here.

do they have their first kickoff return touchdown since 2016? I'm going to say under. The safe bet. I'm going to go for fun. I'm going to root for it. That'll be a fun thing. That's a fun to root for it. And then when it happens, you can tweet me, it'll be good.

Yeah, the smart bet is under. I literally have underwritten down here, but that's not fun to bet again. So I'm going to go over. Okay. Howie Roseman on the fire here. The round, the highest round of a. draft pick included in a Harry Roseman trade from now until the trade

deadline coming or going four and a half so over it would be like three through one or a four okay yeah four for sorry four through one so will Howie Roseman in the same will he trade a third or fourth round pick at the deadline to get a guy he's dying to light a pick on fire he is dying to obviously how he's done a lot of good with the deadline stuff

man it's been it's been rough other than what the Jai trade really yeah really like yes or think that's a win uh they traded a fourth for janard avery so like sorry janard but and we know you're watching the bar is not very high to clear here i'm gonna say yes absolutely over i think technically this would be under because we're talking with a number but yes i agree with you yeah i'm gonna trade a one through four i agree with you and i think that this is part of the like actual roster planning that they have like at wide receiver if a wide receiver

gets hurt one of those guys we talked about then I think they're going to be ready to to trade one those picks and you know they they acquired one over the course of the draft so they have a bit of a surplus here I will I will agree with you I think that Nauai roseman will be sending out a fourth round pick this year yeah I think those extra picks they got weren't just about we love the 2025 class it's like this is good ammo for us to have for a team that's in their Super Bowl and there are there are a few important places where they are shallow tight end as well and so I think I think that this is a real thing and it's a buyer's market apparently like A lot of these veteran trades, right?

Like, I mean... Although less so at the deadline. Usually it costs more at the deadline. But yes. So this is from now until then? Yes. Okay. All right.

Another trade one for you. Ooh, okay. True or false, Hassan Reddick trade conditions are met for the pick elevation. So that is... What is it? So what the Eagles get right now, no matter what, is the 2026 third round pick. Unless Redick plays 67.5% of the Jets defensive. snaps plus has at least 10 sacks in 2024 does he meet both of those conditions does that pick

no i say no that even when it came out that that percentage is so high and that was also like i think i think i forget which of the jets defensive ends was it might have been john franklin meyers who was like right around there he was like right just around there so was reddick like coming in and like being the top guy definitely this year and staying healthy and i'm going to go true because I think Reddick's a great player. I didn't love the trade. I got to say, I understand. I understand the reasoning. How dare you? You don't understand. How dare you? Apparently not. Yeah, that's definitely when you know too. You've made a move you're in love with when you're like getting defensive about it. Right. When you're completely triggered. Yeah. I'm going to go over. It's also kind of a funny thing because it's like usually, you know, you trade a player away. You're like, you don't want that player to do well.

Right. That stinks. Right. But it's like you're actually going to be like, please, Redick, do well, do good. So I'm going to say true. That does convey. I do think it's an important part of fandom that there's always some trade condition to root for, I guess. Like, you know, whether it's a team to do worse or something to hit. And it's always good. Just have something else to keep your mind occupied on Sundays.

The Eagles have been great with that in recent years and saints and whatnot. Yeah. How many more do you have? I have two more. All right. I'll give you two more as well. Let's see. I'm going to give you Cooper DeGine.

We talked about him a little bit. Over under 33 and a half, 33.3% of the defensive snaps. That's a good number. That's a good. Byrd last year was at 30% even though. No, not Byrd. What's his face? The nickel.

The nickel. The new, not the new nickel. Who only shows up on prime time? The old nickel. Bradley Robey. Bradley. Yeah. I'm going to go, I think I had to go under.

I think it's going to be right. I think this is a great line. I think it's going to be like 34 or 32. It's going to be like right, just right around there. I think he's going to have a role. He's going to play on defense. They seem to let me, with Jeffrey Lurie, you know,

is he thrilled to be drafting him. I think he's going to have a role. But I don't know quite how big it's going to be because I still think they like Avanti Maddox a lot too, not so much that Cooper DeGine can't unseat him, but not that's also guaranteed. And also there's just so many cornerbacks on this roster. So many corners.

There's so many that. Like, what if they're trying to find a role for Mitchell? And that kind of eats into playing time for DeGine or, yeah, I'm going to go under on that. Okay. I'm going to go over. He was Vicks guy. He's going to find out. He had a specific thing in mind for him, potentially.

And I like Avanti, too, but Avanti does get hurt. So I'll take the over on Cooper DeGine. My penultimate one here is Eagles undrafted rookie free agents on the week one roster. So not necessarily making the original 53, but like it's game day. Okay. Week one, this player doesn't necessarily have to play in the game, but they are on the active roster. Not an elevation from the practice squad. Yeah, I literally wrote here not including practice squad elevation that would not count.

So, you know, it's Covey, whatever in the past like that wouldn't count. But I will say the context here, and I have a half. So basically just one. Okay. The context here is the Eagles have had a UDFA on every week one roster dating back to 2013, except for the COVID year in 2020, which was, you know, a very unique start. circumstance in a lot of ways. Legals, the only team, the only people negatively impacted by COVID famously.

But yeah, they've had at least one. In 2022, they also had three. So it's usually just one, a couple years where it was two. But usually, definitely at least one over or under. It does seem like there are slightly fewer roster spots to be one at the moment. And, you know, they spent so much time talking about how shallow this draft class was. Like, it was not a great draft class. But I am going to take the over.

I think, I think they have. like to be able to tell that story as well. Like it helps with recruiting undrafted free agents in the future if you can have a guy. And I think part of the reason that they didn't have a guy in the COVID year is because there were no preseason games. Yeah. So there was no concern of like the league got to see this guy on tape. You need to keep him in order.

You need to put him on the roster in order to keep him. This year there are going to be preseason games. Somebody will pop somehow. And so I'll go ahead and take the over. Call your shot. Who is it? Or who do you think has the best chance? I think and if you need me to buy you time just one second I'm gonna say if I had to pick a guy right now I think I probably would go dankwa

ooh you like a dank why I like a dankwa I mean Gabe Hall is probably the betting favorite I like and they are they are pretty light at defensive tackle depth wise so especially if there's an injury there that that's a good bet yeah and then I think uh I think Andre Sam has a shot I like an Andre Sam too Especially, I mean, they only have three safeties you would say are locks right now, right? Is it Andre Sam or Sam Andre? I think it's same Andre. That's right. Okay.

What are you taking on this one? I didn't have to go under just because I don't. It's a smaller class. The actual draft class is larger. The drive class is larger. UDFA class was small. When I did my latest 53 man roster projection coming out of the spring, I don't think I had one on there. Things can change.

Training camp. Injuries can happen. But I think it's going to take something. that I think as it's currently constituted, I think Sam like has the best chance. I'm like, yeah, they only have three safeties you feel like are definitely locks, but they could sign Simmons. They could sign Eddie Jackson. They could bring in someone there, maybe not for week one, maybe after week one. But I think I have to lean under just because I don't know exactly who it would be.

But I do agree. I think Gabe Hall is Andre Sam. We're kind of looking at that. Okay. All right. My last one is not the most interesting, but it's a fun one to track potentially. Bryce Huff, fourth quarter sacks. Three.

I mean, if this is red, it could be easy. It's closer, it's clutch. Three. Even? Three even. Wow. You don't have to be like three and a quarter. I guess I should have made a two and a half because then it's a ten sacks.

You're dividing by four. But I do think that maybe some sacks happen more in the fourth quarter because there's no running game to worry about oftentimes. I don't go under. I think it's not that I'm. down on Bryce Huff, but it's just kind of, we haven't seen this player be a full-time player yet, so I don't know exactly what that looks like. I do think they're going to be good this year as a team, so in theory, the opportunity should be there to kind of tee off on other quarterbacks to get over three.

But I guess, like, again, I was familiar with Reddick. I knew he could come up in those big moments. I don't know that about Bryce Huff yet. I haven't seen enough Jets games to know that for sure. Yeah, well, they haven't been in enough close games. I'm also sure. I don't know those situations have existed. So I'm going to lean under here.

Okay. I'll take the over just for fun. Bet on Bryce Huff coming in and proving to be a good investment? Why not? I chose that in the end instead of combinations of head coach and coordinator over the course of the season, one and a half. I guess I would go under there. I think you have to.

It's a possibility. All right. What's your last one? It's worth bringing up. My last one is Eagles playoff wins. One and a half. Byes don't count, obviously. Yeah, you have to win a game.

under wow it's not fun but it's I mean overwhelmingly the odds would be in that favor so I'm gonna have to do that I'm also going under I think they get one if you gave me half I'd go over and half I think they win a playoff game but

two tough I think that's the thing I believe a big picture here to make it about Siriani for a second I don't think it's like the Eagles are going to be a disaster this year and you can clip this for when that happens and then throw it in my face I guess although I don't think

you'll want to do that I think it's more about the ceiling. What is the ceiling with Nick Siriani? My big issue with him is I wonder, she always likes to phrase it, how does a coach give the team an edge? Never heard of that person, but go ahead. They've obviously won a lot under Siriani.

Yeah, I don't think it's that he's terrible, but I don't think, and I'm scarred by the Super Bowl, and I know ultimately, and Zach's not here, so I can say this, it's obviously John Lennon's fault, but the not going for it on the fourth down, and not only not going for it in that situation and having like the game awareness of you just allowed two 70 or five

or whatever 70 or scoring drives and you're putting the game in the hands of your sorry to re-litigate this. Your punter who was injured and your defensive coordinator who was struggling over your MVP quarterback is like looking awesome. I just don't like love that conceptually. And also his defense of that

I think when you maybe asked about it afterwards was like 32 out of 32 coaches would have done that. And that really lost me at that moment because I was just like 32 of 32 coaches don't win the Super Bowl right here like they haven't been doing this all year long and yeah exactly so anyway uh i feel good about the team's floor i guess i feel good about the Eagles floor their ceiling i just think i don't know if seriani can give them the edge to get over the top it's interesting i actually

feel the opposite uh not from a syriani standpoint from but from a i think this team has a huge variance like i think the floor is pretty low um just because we've talked about like the frankenstining of the coaching staff, like there's a chance that none of this stuff works at all. It doesn't have a 20-20 feel. I mean, they were probably the worst team in football over the last month of the season, right? That's a pretty low floor, right? And I think the ceiling is pretty high because if all of their stars stay healthy, they should be among the most talented, you know, starting 22s in the NFL.

And if Jalen Hertz can play like he played in that Super Bowl, then they could win the Super Bowl. Sure. But I think there is a real chance of like things bottoming out. potentially if things don't start well and then you get to a situation like the end of last year and everybody's just sort of out on the coach, I think that's possible. Definitely.

Like I said, it reminds me a little bit of 2020 in the too many cooks kind of deal. Like there's an element. It's not the exact same, but there's an element of that that worries me and the feel. And a little just like maybe too good to be true of like, well, we got Vic Fangio, so that fixes it. And we got killing more.

So that fixes it. It's definitely fixed. That was the only issue. I think, you know, when we look, when we talk about the 2023 Eagles and what went wrong, I think, you know, Sean Desai and Brian Johnson get a little too much blame relative to, I think, what actually why. Well, certainly Desai as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, I especially Desai, I would say actually. But, yeah. Yeah, I agree with that.

This is a really football heavy episode. I know. Disappointingly, so, for July 1st. I know. Is there some non-Eagles take you like to get off your chest? Oh, a bunch. Yeah, off the top of my head. I did see someone, I'm pulling a Zach here, reading the comments and maybe much too

to hear. Yeah, I don't even know that Zach does this during the show, so you're one-uping him. Someone asked me to name my top five food cities. Oh, that's good. I don't know if I have a top five, but I love Chicago. If I don't, if I didn't live in Philadelphia, I think I would live in Chicago, great city. The winners, that seems untenable. Yeah.

But legitimately great food city. Don't have a soft spot for their sports or anything, really. But just I think it's a beautiful city. And so I'm pro-Chicago. All right. This question was asked to me. We live close to each other. See around the neighborhood every now and then.

Someone's coming to Philadelphia. Yeah. I want you to set them up for dinner Friday night. Okay. Breakfast Saturday morning. I love this. Dinner Saturday night and then lunch Sunday before they get out of town. So four meals, two dinners, a breakfast and a lunch.

I'm a little biased here. And obviously, not everyone has access to this. If you happen to know someone who can get into a leasy social club, it's a great spot to go to. It's not for everyone's access. So if you didn't have that somehow, I would say saloon is strong. Okay. A good alternative. That's for Friday, dinner, Saturday breakfast.

Yeah. One of the weekends is a breakfast one is a lunch. Okay. Yeah, let's do one breakfast. I'm going to go, I'll do a Sam's Morning Glory. Okay. I think they're basically phenomenal. And also, like, it's, it's, it's, it's a luncheon.

I feel usually easier to get in there as opposed to some other places are like mobbed. I feel like typically you can get in there. Even if there is a wait, it's been reasonable for me. It's a good hot spot. You're by the Italian market too. It's just a good area, I think in general to be in. You have to do Angelo's at some point. I mean, they're-

That's the Sunday in a way. And Pizza John or my 1A, 1B in some order, probably that order in some order in terms of like favorite Philly pizza. Okay. Elite. Cheese steak is obviously great at Angelo's. I'm a Woodrose guy. That's my cheese steak. Okay.

You have to go to Woodrow's on South Street. And what was the last one? Yeah, one more dinner. Another dinner. So I did Italian, so I don't want to double up on that. You could do a second lunch if you'd rather do that. This is tough. See, this is getting, it's tough because then now I'm narrowing it down.

Do you have anywhere you been recently that you like that you can buy me time to think of? That's a good question. I have a list. I will say I haven't been recently, but I would like to go later this summer because last summer, the summer, the summer, the summer, the summer, menu at River twice You were, yes. Is like the best meal that I've had in at least a year.

Probably more. So that would be my, that would be my go-to, but I don't know the best one I've had recently. And I kind of, you know, like Zahav. And like that's all kind of

sure. You want to give it a little. Yeah, yeah. And also harder to get into, potentially. I want to go royal sushi. I think royal sushi is fantastic. I love a restaurant that has

a menu with the pictures. It's huge for me. I need to see it. I have to see what I'm getting. Royal sushi every time I go there. I feel like I don't go there enough. It's fantastic. I haven't gotten into the exclusive omicasse in the back yet,

which I hear great things about. But don't even need to. I mean, if you can, great. But Royal sushi is fantastic. And you've kept them in the nice neighborhood here. You've done a good job. I do. All right.

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Okay, sounds good. We will be back tomorrow at noon. Zach and I undertaking the Flit Squad draft, wherein we draft rosters based on the actual Eagles roster. We'll see who comes out on the other side. See how much Zach's willing to pound the table for Will Shipley. And then back on Wednesday at noon with Handsome Rich.

And then on Friday, we're off Thursday for the 4th. Friday is Zach and Rich at noon. So noon the rest of the week. Thanks to everybody for watching and listening. Most of all, thanks to BLG for coming into the studio and spending his time with us. Check out the article. on bleeding greenination.com if you want to play along on these over-unders. And as always, we love you.