PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - PHLY Eagles Podcast | Philadelphia Eagles prep for MNF showdown without A.J. Brown against Atlanta Falcons

Episode Date: September 16, 2024

The Eagles can wake up Tuesday morning alone in first place in the NFC East if they take care of business against the hampered Kirk Cousins on Monday Night Football. That’s thanks to a New Orleans Saints team the Eagles will face next week. But let’s not get ahead of ourselves. The matter at hand is finding out how the offense functions without A.J. Brown, who was ruled out with a hamstring injury.Zach Berman explains what happened to Brown before Bo Wulf explains what Dylan McMahon has to do with the team’s roster predicament. Plus, Fran Duffy joins for his breakdown of what to expect. What could possibly be more fun? Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What will the Eagles offense look like on Monday night football without AJ Brown? We got a bonus show coming up for you next on the PHLY Eagles podcast with Zach Berman in studio and Fran Duffy calling in. Ph.LY Eagles podcast on a Monday, a game day Monday, 2 o'clock, Boat Wolf, Zach Berman here, just a few hours before the Eagles play on Monday night football against Kirk Cousins of the Atlanta Falcons. We'll hear from Fran Duffy in about 20 minutes. But Zach, there's been plenty of Eagles news since we last spoke. developments over the weekend. AJ Brown ruled out on Sunday. Give us the update.

How did this all come to pass? And what do you expect from the Eagles tonight? I suppose to pretend you're not holding a bat right now? Oh, I am holding a bat, aren't I? Yeah. What's the reason for that? Well, I mean, I can give you the story if you want. Sure, let's do it.

I thought you wanted to get to the Eagles stuff first. Oh, okay. Yeah, I just feel it's kind of awkward for me to be talking about the Eagles while someone's ready to swing a bat right at me. here. Well, last Sunday, so week one Sunday. Okay. We did a little family trip to the John Hines Nature Preserve during the day, you know, don't get a lot of football Sundays at home. So it took a little walk out there and get some nature. And I think longtime sickos know that I have a longstanding battle with poison ivy. And so a few days after that trip to the John Hines Nature Center, I wasn't in the

woods, but so sensitive to poison ivy, I am I that like if it's just the gas is in the air or whatever it is, it can affect me. And so a few days later, some, some ivy started popping up, you know, a little on the arm, little on the neck. And here we go. I got to get back to battle. And so on Sunday yesterday, finally got some help, some oral steroids. And so, I mean, I'm on steroids. I'm juiced up. I'm hoping I want to be able to sock some dingers. And so I've been walking around the city of Philadelphia just prepared.

Somebody throw me a pitch. Let me sock them. I'm juiced up. I want to test it out. So that's what this is about. Okay. Yeah, Steve Traxlow walked by me on Chestnut Street, hung the curveball, and I bashed that bad boy 500 feet. I also had the cages on

Saturday morning, so I can appreciate that. Yeah. How'd you do? I did decently, actually. Well, We'll get to that after the news. Yeah, so AJ Brown. Are you going to keep this the whole time on the show? I mean, kind of stay ready. Okay.

AJ Brown is not playing tonight. This is what happened. On Friday, so on Friday's practice, he felt tightness in his hamstring. The Eagles pulled him back from practice on Friday. He did not practice on Saturday. He was not in the locker room on Saturday. The team officially deemed him questionable for the game. they had a walkthrough yesterday morning

literally 20 minutes after the walkthrough or so they announced that he's out very kind to fantasy football owners for them to do it before 1 p.m. That is kind of before our fantasy football owners also it's like a little respect you know the Christian McCaffrey thing in San Francisco. You're trying to curry favor with big fantasy. Yeah, why not?

When Jordan Mason found out Friday night and it's like I don't know. we're talking about it. Yeah. Then they put him like a lot. I was going to be out for seven weeks. Yeah. So, yeah, A.J. Brown out.

And so the fact that they didn't bring it to game time, that it's not the type of thing where they wanted to see him work out on the field before the game suggests that there's something here, right? Now, with hamstring injuries, with skill players, teams tend to want to avoid making like a one or two week injury, a one or two month injury. Yes. Because you can play with a hamstring injury. aggravate it and then it's it's it's it's more serious especially week two exactly so that's that's that's

the news here a j brown out it's the second time eagles ever play without a j brown uh since they acquired him the first time was the playoffs last year we saw how that turned out now circumstances are a little different this year different coordinator teams playing differently uh the presence of say Juan berkeley the presence of potentially jahan dotson so people want to know how's this going to look well Devante Smith is the clear cut number one. Jahan Dotson, he becomes the number two here. And when the Eagles acquired Dotson, one thing we discussed was to have a starting caliber player if AJ or Devante went down. This is already being tested two weeks in.

Don't forget Dallas Goddard. The Eagles look at Goddard as a near top of the league tight end. And they kind of think, well, the numbers aren't there because he doesn't have the volume of some of the other tight ends. Well, now he's in a position to have that type of volume. Also, Sequin Barclay, Sequin Barclay lined up either than slaughter out wide on 20% of the passing plays that he was in on Friday night. So he's someone who could factor into the mix here. But ultimately, I think that it's pretty clear this is a major effect on the Eagles offense, and they're going to have to adjust accordingly. Yeah, let's talk AJ specifically first.

Is your expectation that this is going to be a multi-week thing? It's a good question. I hesitate there because I don't have the answer. Sure, you're guessing. And I think that it's the type of thing where maybe it's touch and go going into next week, right? I don't expect this to be a multiple week thing, but I don't have the information to suggest that. I mean, he's not on IR, right? If this was going to be four weeks, they'd put him on IR right now to preserve this game.

So this game counts. If they put him on IR next week, this game doesn't count in that. It's not like in major football where you can do it. Although I guess they could still do that, potentially. Today, they could. Yeah, they... Because they need to open up a roster spot, which we will get to. Exactly.

So they could. But unless they do that, my assumption is they think he'll be back within, you know, three, four weeks. Now, offensively, this is an interesting test for Kellyn Moore because this happens so late in the week that the original game plan was already put in, right? So they have to sort of adjust on the fly as to what the offense is going to look like. The guys you mentioned, let me frame it for you this way. Zack. So Sequin last week, two catches for 23 yards on two targets. Devante, seven catches for 84 yards on eight targets.

Dallas got it, four catches for 31 yards on five targets. If you had to bet your ability to ever ride a Waymo again on one of those three guys having a bigger night, target-wise, production-wise, than they did in week one. Who would it be? Well, this is tough because Waymo's going to be a really big deal in the future here. and I certainly don't want to jeopardize my chances of being on a Waymo. I mean, that's like if 15 years ago you said you're betting the chances of Uber or Lyft, I mean, that's what Waymo might be like.

So I've got to be considerate here about where I'm going. I think the biggest beneficiary will be Dallas Gotter. I think so, too. You don't have anything more? I think that because Dallas Goddard will function as the number two, two-wide receiver. I think that in the progressions, you know, obviously J-Wan has a connection with him. They'll look at him more. There might be more play designs that feature Dallas Goddard. You know, I know that the quick thought was that Jahan Dodson is the biggest beneficiary.

And certainly in playing time, I would imagine Dodson is. But I think in terms of zero catches on one target last week. I would imagine he's going to outdo that tonight. But I think in target distribution, I expect Goddard to be. So those were good numbers there. Goddard was four catches, five targets. I can see Goddard at like six catches for eight or nine targets tonight. And I also think that the personnel packages are going to be interesting because Johnny Wilson also has he been declared out? He's questionable.

He's questionable. And that's an injury that popped up on Saturday. Okay. And he was there at that, I believe, the start of practice on Saturday. So that means it happened during practice. Okay. And so that means they are obviously low at wide receiver numbers. we talked about last week was the highest percentage of snaps that Devante Smith had ever taken in the slot over 50% for the first time in his career.

Probably not going to be the case tonight, just given what they have. I would imagine that we will see a little bit more 12 personnel than we did last week. They'll maybe lean a little bit on Grant Alcatara because otherwise we're talking about Devante, Jahan Dotson, and Britton Covey as the only healthy wide receivers until they potentially make an elevation. Yeah, so I'm expecting Paris Gamble. I know we'll get to that later. Let's talk about it. You can get into it. But no, I just want to bring up this point that you made because you talked about Devante in the slot.

And Fran Duffy had a great number up earlier today. Man, Fran's been tweeting a storm here. So A.J. Terrell, who's the clear top cornerback on the Falcons, and he's someone who the Eagles have a great deal of respect for. Last week against the Steelers, and this is from Fran. Duffy, I'm sorry, Terrell played the George Pickens inside of the field every rep. But he didn't play man coverage and he didn't travel with Pickens into the slot. Pickens played five reps in the slot.

Devante played 29 in the slot. I imagine one thing the Eagles are going to want to do, if this holds true tonight, is to free up Devante from A.J. Terrell, which would means it behooves them to play him in the slot. Now, if you have Britten Covey on the field, that doesn't work out. And that's why you need somebody, you know, you need a Paris Campbell or who you need, I don't know Johnny Wilson status. that's something I'll be watching before the game. I also don't necessarily think that like Devante Smith needs to be worried about

AJ Terrell one-on-one on the outside. You know what I mean? What do you mean? Worried by? Like I think it's something you're probably enough. You're trying to get the most favorable matchup. Sure. Of course.

But it's not, I don't think Devante is shaking in his boots about AJ Terrell necessarily. Oh, wow. AJ Terrell sheet. He's fine. Then you want the Eagles to trade for him? Yeah, he's a good player. Yeah.

So is Devante Smith. Sure. Man up. You think AJ Brown's worried about him? Okay. So, yeah, so, but so Devante played 29 reps in the slot last week. Curious to see what that looks like tonight. Curious to see if, uh, where AJ Terrell is on Devante Smith.

Uh, but we, we talked about the Paris Campbell of this all. And this is fascinating to roster nerds like myself, okay? So, yeah, the Eagles are expected that will be, um, Paris Campbell in the, in the sense that they only right now they have three healthy wide receivers if johnny wilson plays they have four healthy wide receivers but you want five for a game now the way the roster construction is well as we know you can only elevate two players from the practice squad nick gates and and and j jenkins last week nick gates has the eagles needed a backup center they needed a third tight end those were the two practice squad elevations those conditions are the same now they still need a backup center

they still need a third tight end those guys are still on the practice squad They can't elevate Gates, Jenkins, and Campbell from the practice squad. So in that case, they either need to not elevate one of them or they need to open up a roster spot, either by putting someone on IR or by cutting someone outright. Whether I don't think they're going to cut Devin White. Okay, I don't think that's going to happen. I think that maybe a guy like Darian Kinnard, who, you know, you try to sneak them through to practice squad, it's it's already Monday here

I'm not sure how that you know he would clear waivers tomorrow I'm curious this is I'm kind of taking this a few steps ahead or they could say look let's keep the 53 as it is let's not elevate gates if something were to happen to Juergens tonight

we can move Landon Dickerson over and put in Steen or you know or or something like that Zach this is roster hubris come home to Roost is what this is. Okay. Because boy, would it sure be nice

for them to have a backup center on the active roster. Considering that they let Dylan McMahon go, did not roster him, in favor of James Bradbury, who ended up getting injured and was on injured reserve, was not going to be a role player

on this team at all. Several other decisions that we have talked about. If they had him here, this would not be a problem. And I, I think there is also a bit of a carryover of, oh, we had Jason Kelsey. He was healthy for so long. Maybe the backup center is not that important of a position.

If Cam Drogens goes down and Cam Drogens went down last year as a right guard, they're in bad shape. Long term, or for tonight? I just think that this is sort of their just desserts for playing cute with the roster. Okay. In order to try to prove a point about James Bradbury. or like, you know, the Albert O thing, which we can get into, obviously, but it's, it's, this is, this is sort of what they deserve for that. I mean, this is turning into like the Jonathan Gannon argument, the Dylan McMahon thing.

Well, how is it like Jonathan Gannon? Because it keeps coming up and like it's, yeah. No, this is too hill. Okay. My sense of this is they did not have the same evaluation of Dillman as you had. Yeah, they're wrong. Like, now that's super. But they're also, but they don't have a center, a backup center of the active roster.

Well, on the active roster, correct. Right. And so when you are relying on, well, we get to play this game of two elevations that we need to cover for a backup tight end or a backup center. Then when something pops up midweek, you're not covered. Yeah. And look, I know that there had been talk of like, like, of getting Trevor Keegan snapping experience. I know that's something he did. Why don't we start a right guard first before we get to center?

But no, you are right. And I actually think the third tight end part of this is maybe the bigger deal of all. Because if you want to have three tight ends on your team, right, then carry three tight ends on your team. Sure. Don't just rely on the practice squad. So, yeah, the offensive line part of it, the Eagles. Which is why I don't expect that the wide receiver injuries make it so that I don't think they would be willing to go only two tight ends. for this game in particular because yeah if another wide receiver goes down they got to live in

in 12 or something like yeah the eagles on on the offensive line the eagles clearly chose development and when i mean that when i say that they they chose canard and they chose kegan two players they think have like um starting type potential over um like purely positioned backup and we can debate the merit of that it's clearly uh something that that's that's biting them now but this is the other thing too, Bo, is they had, you know, they had a roster spot free when James Bradbury went on IR. Exactly. And they chose to put Warren Berks on. Okay, that carried that extra linebacker. Yes. And that to me is, it's like, all right, that was your chance to make sure you had the numbers here. Totally agree. They, they chose to bring in Byron Young, who, he's, he's not like a backup nose for them, right? He's, he was inactive last week. Yeah.

They could have done Jenkins then and elevated burks. Yes, exactly. And then in this situation, they've got Devin White back. They wouldn't need Burke. Exactly. And just, okay, we're going to actually have to let Jeremiah Trotter Jr. play on punt coverage. Yeah. So I'm with you there.

It's like, so I'm curious to see. We'll find out in an hour and 43 minutes what they do. I'm curious to see what they do. What do you think they do? Do you think they make a roster move or do you think they leave one of these guys off? I think I lean towards. they make a roster move, they wave somebody, and promote either Gates or Jenkins to the active roster,

and then elevate Paris Campbell. And who do you think would be waived? The problem is I want to say Tristan McCollum, but I don't know if they need him on special teams tonight, but I think that he's probably the last guy on the roster. I was thinking Kennard or Young. Yeah, I mean, you could do Young because he was already waived. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, those are the guys who were inactive. Yeah, that makes sense. I do think it's possible that they just go in with Dickerson as the backup center and then roll the dice. And just hope that. Plus, Kelsey's in the building. Exactly.

If they really need it. That's true. They'll mic him up in the third quarter and put him on the field. Yeah. And it's not like anyone would notice. He blends in pretty well. So there you go. All right.

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No, doing well, guys. You guys are talking Michael Jordan, Beau's got the bat on his shoulder. I don't know what we're doing right now. Would this intimidate you, by the way, if you're conducting a show and someone's holding a baseball bat ready to swing,

like a foot away from you? It's a little unsettling. Yeah, I would find myself a little distracted, so I don't envy you in this moment. I mean, I'm just hoping for somebody, somebody, anybody to give me 95 on the inside quarter, and I can swivel my hips and bash this bad boy into the bay. Come on. Look, as long as you could just make it to the game tonight, that's all that really matters for us. Yeah, you need your performance enhanced tonight, so there you go.

I just want to sock some dingers, man. Hey, Fran, before we get to the Eagles offense tonight, what do you make of, what do you make of Zach's boy, Bryce Young, getting benched? My boy. It's from right over there. A silly guy. Yeah, that's true, actually.

Look, it's not, judging by the way that he's played the last two weeks, it's not overly surprising, right? But at the end of the day, like, it is shocking because David's house was hired with that in mind that, you know, he's there to kind of revitalize Bryce Young's career. And so for them to give him the whole, hook so early definitely is surprising. I do wonder if there's, you know, do you try and make a call?

See if he's available just to kind of take that headache off their hands or are they willing to jump that quickly? I think that's interesting. Yeah. Well, he would, right? Of course. I mean, yeah, Bryce Young has, yeah. Well, I don't see how he fits with, but. Well, sure.

How about a picket swap and you trade a third for a fifth or something like that? A hundred percent. Yeah, okay. David David is a former Steelers minority owner. He's got to have some insight on Kenny Pickett. There you go. Yeah, I mean, you were talking last week when you were watching the Saints Panthers film, that they looked like the worst team in football.

And they didn't look too much better yesterday. You know, it seems like a reasonable thing to do. Maybe a step back for a step forward. However, that said, we got to at least mention that it took two weeks for Dave Canales' wandering eyes to play a factor in their season. I mean, guys, talk about commitment issues. Wow. Yeah, I'll leave that one there for you.

I'll let's, I'll let Zach sell that one. Yeah, I'm not selling that. I'm not speaking about this commitment issues. It is surprising, though, to see how quickly they kind of gave them the hook. And it did not, it didn't look good last week on film. It got a little better as the game went on, but yesterday wasn't pretty either. I haven't gone through every dropback yet, but buzzing through some of the highlights and low lights. And it was more of the latter that was like,

So that was a tough watch. Fran, we have a super chat from Mike McMahon, who wants to know what your favorite memory of his is. Yeah, I'll get back. I'll put that in the article tomorrow after breaking down the Eagles. Okay. The Mobile Joe Montana. Thank you to Mike McMahon for supporting the show. Okay, Fran, put yourself into Kellynne Moore's shoes.

You get the news deep into the week that you're going to be without A.J. Brown. how would you against this falcons defense change things and make your priorities? Yeah, I mean, honestly, you're going to still try and run this past game in this offense through Devante Smith, Dallas Goddard, and you start working your way down the list, but you're going to start with those two names first. And I think the big thing is that in a matchup like this, if the Atlanta Falcons play this week, the way that they played last week, where it is heavily, heavily, heavily zone coverage, very little man coverage, no man coverage looks at all, you're not worried about,

anybody traveling into the slot with Devante Smith and trying to follow him around. So you can really kind of dictate. If you have an idea, hey, you know what? On this down and distance, they really like to play cover four. This down a distance, they like to play cover two. This down in distance, they like to play cover six. Whatever the situation is, now you can really kind of dictate for your quarterback. Hey, we're going to run a cover six beater, and the first read is going to be Devante Smith.

And if it's not, then your second read is going to be Dallas Scott. You're three or third read is going to be Jahan Dots. And you kind of work through it that way. it goes back to everything we said last week, though. You're going to try and put stress on those zone coverage defenders. So no matter what the down and distance is, maybe you are targeting the middle of the field linebacker to the boundary side. All right, well, there are different things you can do formationally and with motion and it all

is going to be on a play-by-play basis to try and put that guy in conflict. So losing AJ Brown, yes, that's a big piece. You'd rather play the game with AJ Brown. But I don't think they're going to completely throw the game plan out the window. it's more just going to be kind of tinkering who lines up where in this play call versus what we had planned earlier in the week. Now in Bowes press conference with the Pittsburgh media, I'm sorry, with Arthur, in Arthur Smith's press conference with the Pittsburgh media this week. I mean, I'm holding a bat. I'm holding a bat.

I have royd rage. I have been in a bad mood all day long with these steroids. You really need to be careful. Arthur Smith said the reason why Justin Fields did not test the middle of the field was because of Jesse Bates' presence. And when the Eagles are looking at this secondary tonight, this Falcon secondary, you have Jesse Bates and then the middle of the field, you have AJ Terrell on one side. I referenced your stat earlier about AJ Terrell's coverage of George Pickens,

how he didn't go into the slide. With Kellan Moore focused on matchups, how do the presence of those two defensive backs in particular color the way he kind of draws up this game plan? Yeah, I mean, we'll see if he's going to completely avoid the middle of the field the way that the Steelers and Arthur Smith did. My guess is is that Arthur Smith was covering up for his quarterback a little bit there. I do think that was part of the game plan. You go in, hey, we want to stay away from Jesse Bates. We don't want to throw the ball in his direction.

But to completely avoid the middle of the field and not targeted at all, that seems a little extreme to me. So I do think you want to be wary of those guys. And we talked about that late last week on the show on Thursday, is that to me, like at the top of the sheet, for game planning for this opponent. It's you can't give the ball to the other team. They've got three proven ball hawks on that side between Jesse Bates, AJ Terrell, and Justin Simmons. All three have shown the ability to take the football away from opposing

quarterbacks at a high clip so far throughout their career. And you need to do everything in your power to not do that, especially in a game that you anticipate like the Eagles, obviously the Eagles are favor going into this game. They should feel good about their ability to win this game at home. Don't give them freebies. Don't give them more opportunities to, to be able to keep themselves in this one.

So for me, this should be a play at safe game for Jalen Hertz, especially after last week, learn from those mistakes down in Brazil and come back and have an efficient performance against the Falcons. Six point favorites at the moment for the Eagles. Do you have any expectations for Jahan Dotson? How long do you think it really takes to integrate a guy into the offense? It all depends on the individual.

Some guys we've seen come in and make an impact early, Julio, took a few weeks last year, right? But I think that when you look at Jehan Dotson, I don't think that they're coming. He played a lot of snaps last week. And so it stands the reason that he's got a grasp of what he's asked to do in the offense. My guess is he's going to be a full compliment. Now, again, it just comes down to what does that target share look like.

I still think he's probably fourth on the pecking order when it comes to, you know, an ideal game plan, an ideal script for Kellyn Moore in the past game. All right, what does this look like? I would think that he's going to be behind Devante Smith, Dallas Goddard, and even Seek Juan Barkley in terms of who do you want to get the ball in the past game to first? So, you know, I think that might result in maybe three or four targets. And then what does he do with those three or four targets? Do they come in critical situations?

Do they have stuff dialed up for him on third down or in the red zone? He was a really good red zone receiver for Washington as a rookie. Is that an area where they feel like he can make an impact? That's something to certainly to watch. Bo asked you to put yourself in Kellan Moore's mind. I'm going to ask you to put yourself in Jimmy Lake's mind here. Okay. And Jimmy Lake, of course, for those who don't know, is the Falcons defensive coordinator.

Now, week two last year, the Eagles played against Kirk Cousins, played against the Vikings, when Kirk Cousins was the quarterback. The Eagles were coming off a poor rushing performance, and DeAndre Swift had a huge game. It was the most carries ever in the Siriani era. And part of that, I imagine, was because Brian Flores, the Vikings defensive coordinator, looked at the way the Eagles played and said, you know, you're going to have to run it on us. You know, Jalen, we're not going to let you do anything deep on us here. So it's a different situation going into this game. You saw what Saquan Barclay did week one.

You saw, you see obviously the Eagles don't have AJ Brown. Jimmy Lake, his game plan here, do you think he's trying to load the box up saying we're not going to let Seaquin beat us? If the Eagles beat us, it's going to have to be jailing completing passes to these other guys. Or do you think not much changes with his game plan here? My guess is that based off of last week and how they played against Pittsburgh, Zach, I mean, they were not afraid to load up and match them from a personnel standpoint. We saw them go with base personnel defensively and match up against some of the heavier groupings from Pittsburgh.

So I do think that they will try and match the Eagles and force them to, you know, to get out of those run looks. That was the thing with Minnesota last year, as you mentioned, was that so often, you know, the Eagles were having success and the Vikings were not adjusting. And so the Eagles, and credit to Brian Johnson and the coaching staff at that moment was, right, let's keep pushing this button. We're not going to back down from running the football. If they're going to let us run for four, five, six, seven yards a clip, we're just going to keep doing it up and down the field.

My guess is that Atlanta would adjust and not let that happen. The big thing I think from this one is that we're going to see more than one big blitz from the Falcons. We didn't see any from the Packers last week. So my guess is that they're going to push that button a little bit more than what Green Bay and Jeff Hathley did. And I would imagine that it would happen on like the first third down of the game. If you're a defense, you have to see how they're going to react and see exactly what the answers were. I thought that Jalen Hertz was really decisive against the blitz last week. The ball came out fast.

The ball came out exactly where it needed to go. But it wasn't from those zero blitzes. So to me, if you are Jimmy Lake in this game, you've got to try and test that early. All right. Other side of the ball, Fran, if we just presume that Kirk Cousins is sort of the same guy that he was last week, he has not miraculously healed in, you know, eight days time. And they're not willing to let him just, you know, a lot of undersets. center play action and bombs away, all that stuff.

They're sort of trying to protect him. If this is a 30-touch Bejohn-Robinson game, how well-suited do you think the Eagles defense is to handle that? They've got to tackle better than they did a week ago for certain. And that was an issue, especially getting off blocks as well. It wasn't just tackling and they had a bunch of mistackles, but just getting off those one-on-one blocks. If you were allowing yourself to get blocked one-on-one, that's a win for the offense.

That's a hat on a hat. You have to be able to take two for one defensively. And so that will be a point of emphasis in this game. I'm interested to get your guys thoughts because in the last few days, Atlanta has put out there through various media channels, right, that, hey, Kirk Cousins is healthy. This was not a health issue. Now, it's possible that they're lying, right?

But also, it could be, hey, our doctors have cleared Kirk Cousins. Everything is showing up that everything is okay and that it's more of a mental thing. if it is a mental thing, then there's a chance that they come out of this and they say, you know, they look a lot different offensively from a structure standpoint. I still lean, I mean, we've seen some of the video footage of Kirk Cousins at practice. They made sure they put out of some under center reps of him in practice and he's still looking a little slow getting out there from under center. But I'm interested to get your thoughts.

I know, you know, Diana Rossini from the athletic put out that he was 100% healthy. I'm interested to get your guys thoughts on that because that's not what I saw necessarily on film, but it is possible that it's a mental thing. And some guys, they need to be able to trust it before it shows up from a physical standpoint. And so when you say not healthy, and you saw it on film, is it with the way he moved or simply with the usage? Because obviously, a lot of the dialogue has been about the fact that he wasn't under center and that takes way to play action because literally the way you're moving, the way you're taking those steps back when you're coming off that knee injury is affected.

So was it the way he was used or was the way he was moved? I'm sorry, the way he was moving that made you feel that he's clearly not back. To me, both. But I think the movement certainly stood out or the lack of movement certainly stood out. And then also when he did have to put some extra mustard on some of those throws, we talked last week about how that's where you saw the accuracy really go downhill. And when you're feeling like you have to really wind up and put everything into that throw, that's where the accuracy levels can get a little bit more scattershot.

And I think we saw that from Kirk Cousins in this game. But again, there's a chance that it is more mental. And if it is mental, then just like that, it can flip going back the other way. And so I guess that remains to be seen. Yeah, the big thing I'm looking for is in terms of tendencies. And this is a stat here from Field Yates, from ESPN, where he said the Falcons were in pistol or shotgun on 96% of their snaps. and of the 22 snaps out of shotguns,

the Falcons had zero designed runs. And of the 20s... What's that? Go ahead. Did I listen? Did you listen to our show last week? Yes. Yes.

But, Bo, sometimes people don't... Well, I'm just saying, Fred at Field Yates, why? We gave that stat ourselves. Okay. Are we allowed to say thing wonderful? We do how many shows a week?

He didn't create that stat. All right. I'm going to defer to you here then, okay? I was That is why I don't think That's why the mental stuff Doesn't really pass the sniff test to me Because it was their whole game plan

If it was a mental thing It would be like oh he went out there And he just didn't feel like he could rip it And they had to change it as they went Like this is the game plan they put together for week one When they had all off season to prepare And then you get into the discussion of All right well how much say does Kirk Cousins have on the game plan

Did he say does Zach Roberts Hey I want to ease into this? Like how much say did he do he? have into it because again I would agree with you though the fact that they played the way that they played to me showed that they were trying to hide it right that they were trying to help him kind of ease back in so is it going to be from zero to 60 or are they going to say all right we're going to get them under center 10 reps this week or you know are they going to kind of ease in and just kind of gradually grow it from that standpoint my guess is is that it would be more of a gradual

growth there but again we were not going to find that out until tonight we have a super chat Another one for you, Fran, from John who says, do you think that Atlantic goes with a lot of cover one slash robber defense with AJF? No, because I don't like a lot of those matchups. I know you like a D. Alford a little bit more than I do. That's true. You get into those from a one-on-one standpoint. You know, look, they did not play any man coverage at all.

So for them to then go and say they're going to play a whole lot of man, that would be a little surprising. There was only a one-week sample that said last week. So, you know, is there a chance that they play man? of course, but I don't think that they're going to heavily lean into that. I think when you look at Rahim Marce's background, especially the last few years, it has been zone heavy, really no matter where he's been. And so I do think it'll be more zone coverage.

That said, yes, they will change it up from time to time. But I don't think that with A.J. Brown out, all of a sudden, that's going to completely flip the script in terms of their game plan. Now, you have your prediction up on all p.g.com. My predictions up there as well. The audience can check that out. but you see this as a higher scoring game than I do. So you think this hits the over and you think the Eagles are scoring into the 30s.

Why? I just think if the, look, if the Falcons are going to play the way that they did a week ago in terms of the structure of that defense and attacking zone coverage, are you playing zone coverage? I think Kellyn Moore and the way that this offense is structured, I think that they do a good job of being able to attack zone coverage and finding those weak spots, finding those soft spots. I have a lot of faith in the Eagles offensive line to win the battle at the line of scrimmage in this one.

I do think that they didn't play up to their standards a week ago, even though it was a good day on the ground for Sequin Barclay. I do think that that offensive line will be out to show that they can play a little bit better than what they did last week in Brazil. And so I do think that this offense has the ability to score a lot of points here against this Atlanta defensive front. And then the other way, too, I think that this defense should be able to perform well against this Atlanta offense and that offensive front. So to me, I feel pretty confident that the Eagles win this game in cover. But, you know, obviously we know it can go the other way as well. Well, Fran, it is also Nick Foll's night at The Link Tonight. A great story on all-P-HLY.com that everybody should read.

Zach, talk to everybody in the locker room who has been around Nick Foles for some of their memories. You've been in the building with Nick Foles. You know, I think you were at the, we're at the Super Bowl party that night? I was. Well, get us. That's an absolute party that night. What do you think of? Yeah, I mean, look, I can't say that I spoke with Nick that night, but certainly

was able to share my thanks with him. Obviously, growing up, a huge Eagles fan. It was a really fun moment. It got a great moment for the franchise. But I think when I think back on that run, I mean, that Minnesota game, watching that from the studio, getting ready for pregame show or for postgame show and everything, I mean, it was an unbelievable performance. and then just being in the building for that win,

I know you guys were as well. I mean, Nick Foles, I'm pretty sure to this day, still the highest graded performance by PFF and a quarterback in Super Bowl PFF history. You're welcome, Beau. But I think when you, I'm not there for you to hit me with the bat. But again, just a flawless performance, near flawless performance from Nick Folls in that game.

And certainly one of the most impressive on the biggest stage in the history of the NFL. I like the idea. There's a statue. of Nick Foles outside the link, not for the Philly Special, not for winning the Super Bowl, but for achieving the highest grade in PFF history.

Yay! In the Super Bowl. Yay! I knew you would like that, though. Fran, we will see you tonight. We have all kinds of shows covering the game. It's going to be halftime

with you and Vinnie Curry and then post-game show, you, me, Jamie, and Vinny Curry as well. And, of course, the kickoff show with Jamie and Rich. from our watch party before the game tonight. So look forward to all your insight after the action that we see at the link tonight, Fran. Will the bat be there for postgame?

I don't know. Right now I'm feeling like I can't go anywhere without this bat. The Royd range is real. I know. For your sake, I hope somebody throws you a softball and you can hit it out of the park and then we can move on with our laps. Well, that's going to be tough. Thank you for spending the time.

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Get the best gear around, by using the link in our description for all non-pre-sale items. Use the promo code P.H-L-Y-10 for 10% off. So what is the plan for the Nick Foll's honoring tonight, Zach? Well, he's the honorary captain. So he'll go up for the opening coin toss. I imagine there's going to be some type of video montage. He'll be introduced to the crowd.

I don't know when specifically that's going to be. if it's before the game, if it's during a break in the game, if it's halftime. I can actually look up to get the details of that. But I will be speaking to him along with other reporters before the game in the 6 p.m. hour, so I'll have updates in all pH-L-Y.

Well, I'll probably have updates on social media for that. I don't know if I'll have a dedicated article up tonight on what Foles said, but I'll try to incorporate it in to the coverage. But more importantly for the fans, yeah, he'll be honored at, at the game. Let me pull up exactly what the plan is in that regard. Speaking of the social media coverage, I'm just curious, has Emily offered to tweet for you even though you're back in the States at all?

Because the gimmick is so good? Well, the gimmick was good, but no, I mean, she's busy with her stuff, and she won't be staying up for this game. Here you go. So let's see, Nick Foles will serve as the honorary captain, like I said. There's no official time here for when he's going to be. I imagine it would be half time, right? It might be before the game.

Sometimes they do it during it. The national anthem is going to be performed by... Her last name's Lozano. J-A-M-R-R-R-N-E-N-O. Do you know her? No. J-A-M-I-R-Y-S. Lazzano, she's performing the national anthem.

I look forward to hearing that. Yeah, good get for Lozano. In honor of... This is actually interesting for longtime Eagles fans and I saw this on Philadelphiaofeagles.com as well laid a story on this in honor of Latino Heritage Month

Eagles legend Jason Yvonne and performers from the Isilla Dance Studio and our in motion dance studio will perform salsa dances the performers hail from Cuba, Venezuela Columbia, Puerto Rico Puerto Rico that you just put on Venezuela my word

Puerto Rico Mexico and the Dominican Republic so there's you'll see Jason Avon I can't be doing a show

with a bat in your hand Jason Navant will be honored at the game can you please get it together Bo we're doing a professional

show here Penetuela what the flare in any event you were really feeling yourself Good for you.

So it is important. Throughout the game, there's going to be a lot of fun stuff. And you'll see, you'll see Nick Foles there. And if you're watching the game from home, which I imagine most people are, Jason Kelsey is going to be in the broadcast booth for the third quarter of the game with Joe Buck and Troy Aikman.

So that would be. I look forward to that because that's where he should be, as far as I'm concerned. I mean, you did the story trailing him last year at, the, what is it called? Well, now they call it the Media Summit. But yeah, like that's what I'm, that's what you know. I like the Kelsey personality stuff, but I feel like, I mean, he's so knowledgeable about

the game. I would much rather hear what he has to say about a live game as it's happening. Yeah, and especially doing it with Buck and Aikman and doing it in, in Philly is going to be interesting. Did you catch the Jayland Hertz Jason Kelsey interview? I did. What were your thoughts on that? I thought it was a good interview.

And nice to see them talk I feel like the like the Eagles social media Like oh There's nothing but love here Look at how much these two guys Love each other

Is a little bit You know Protest too much Perhaps Well that I mean I live through that with Foles and Wentz

Right It's like you know Best friends Best friends Right How much they were best friends Right But professional respect

Certainly Yeah Yeah it was good Yeah it was nice What do you think they call the Tush Push internally? Good question. And why are they so guarded about it? Good question.

Yeah, I imagine for schematic reasons. I don't know. What schematic reasons? You don't want to give the name of a play? I don't know. Everybody knows the Tush Bush is coming anyway. Well, that is true also. Yeah, I don't have a good explanation for you there.

Okay. Well, it sounds like they've got a funny name for it. That's all. You think it's funny? The way that they talk about it, yeah. It's just kind of jailing and Nick are a little guarded with that stuff. Okay. All right.

What else is on your mind? There's a lot of my mind here. The game tonight. How about the Saints putting it on the Cowboys yesterday? If the Eagles win this game, they'll be alone in first place. Yeah, well, I actually think what jumps out to me more than, because the first place thing, like it's week. It's week two going into week three. Like I saw a stat on social media that.

like Saquan Barkley is on pace for X amount of carries. It's like it's one game. Like the Eagles are on pace to go 17 and no, right? You can't. But what jumps out to me is the way the Saints are playing. And this stretch here of NFC South games, the Falcons, the Saints, and the Bucks going into the season, I thought this was like a chance for the Eagles to build up some wins.

This could be a barometer for the Eagles. The Saints look really tough. The Eagles are getting them on a short week, or the Eagles are on a short week. Saints are at home with a little. full week and then the the the bucks look good so yeah if if it's it's why the eagles need to win tonight yeah i think i i i felt like that game was more this was the conversation we had on the all-city NFL show last night um but yeah i think that that that game felt more about the

saints and this offense that is catching the league by surprise than necessarily that terrible news about the cowboys right yeah i mean i'm impressed by clinkubiac i think he's doing a good job there. I don't love the talent on that offense, but Derek Carr's making it work. They have speed at wide receiver. You're seeing that. Avon Kamara looks

like the Kamara of old. So they're putting it together. All right. Anything else from around the league that popped to you? Well, you mentioned Bryce Young there. No, I mean, what jumps out to me overall are like the

great quarterbacks aren't necessarily playing great right now. I thought, you know, there was that clip of Burrow throwing his helmet after the past interference. And look, that is tough, right? The Bengals out, out, out, out, out, out, totally out played them in that game. The Bengals had the ball, um, up to, with a chance to put the game away. And they gave the ball back to the chiefs, right? Like, that's where you're, that's where your frustration should lie. But across the board, these, these, a lot of the top quarterbacks aren't playing like top quarterbacks right now. I do think, though,

I was impressed by the Cardinals, seeing that yesterday, seeing Marvin Harrison, Jr. from that way. He showed up in a big way, as I expected. You know, I was kind of laughing at the criticism of his speed. It's like, I've seen Marvin Harrison run fast.

He's going to be fine. It's one game. And Marvin Harrison was fine. And Kyler looks, and Kyler looks terrific. That's what jumps out to me there. I thought, yeah, I'm trying to think last night. Yeah, Caleb Williams, that offensive line is a problem. That line's a problem. Some of these rookie quarterbacks, it shows how C.J. Stroud was, and that was at an anomaly. I didn't think, I didn't think Caleb Williams looked that bad last night. No, he did not. He was just under duress. Yeah. I mean, Gading Daniels, I didn't think look that good yesterday, passing

the ball at least the giants how about dayball huh yeah yeah i mean come on talk about roster hubris seriously and this gano deal opening kickoff yeah and he had something going into the game and they're like well he didn't get hurt with that injury well it wasn't the groin it was the hamstring yeah exactly um and and like also have your punter kick it off then like why is he chasing down yeah exactly yeah why is he chasing it down yeah exactly yeah uh so i It's really going to be the Eagles and the Cowboys in the division. But you're right. This is why the Eagles have a chance to take a one game lead tonight.

And you don't want to be one-on-one going into the Saints and the bucks on the road. Yeah. I mean, listen, this is a game. It's possible that the, you know, things change from week one to week two. It's possible that their offense is going to look totally different than it did last week. However, even though the Eagles do not have AJ Brown, it will be, I think, a pretty big disappointment if they're not able to go out. and win this game handily tonight in front of a raucous home crowd. You know, they don't get a lot of home games the first two months of the season.

So, like, they're going to be, they're going to be crazy. It would be a pretty significant letdown if they can't win this game easily. Yeah, as I wrote on our p.gly.com, and you can see that right now, is that there are tangible and intangible reasons why I give the Eagles the advantage. I think they're the more talented team overall. I don't like the Falcons defensive front. front. And I think that the Eagles are better on the lines of scrimmage, both lines of scrimmage there. I do like the Falcon skill guys, and I like their secondary. But I think

the Eagles have the advantage on both lines of scrimmage. But then the intangible reasons, like you mentioned, this is a Monday night game to open the link with Nick Foles being honored, with Jason Kelsey in the house. Like this is going to be a raucous environment here. And I understand that the crowd's not winning you a game, but this is where you should see the home field advantage come to fruition. Do you have, aside from your final game prediction, any like floating predictions for what might happen in this game, whether it's a big play or somebody stepping up?

I think Bryce Huff gets a sack tonight. Okay. Yeah, I do. I mean, I'll say this. Like, I'm not making excuses for the Eagles, okay? but one thing that that came up during the week in in talking to people in there is how bad the field was like we saw it but I didn't play on it and in talking to people in there like it really had an effect on them so Bryce Huff you can see footage of him slipping but as you guys said on the show this week when I listened to it Caleb McGarry was very susceptible to I think Fran made that point to TJ you know he got DJ Watt got him three times. I would expect him to come around.

I would expect Bryce Huff to come around that side. And I think Bryce Huff is going to get Kirk Cousins in this game. You think Devin White is active? I'm fascinated by that. He doesn't play special teams like we've discussed. I don't see. Yeah, I would imagine he is active. But it's hard to, I mean, is he going to be active just as an emergency linebacker?

I don't know. I don't know either. I don't know. I mean, you know, Nick's laying it on thick, that they're going to need them, that they're going to need them. I'm curious to see what this roster move is today. And then do you have any of a better sense since we last spoke about what to expect in the secondary with Quinnia Mitchell's usage? Yes, since we last spoke, I just hear more about the gene. And I'm expecting to see more Cooper the gene tonight.

Okay. I asked Nick Siriani this on the record on Saturday about when, when. to when do you know like all right this guy's up to speed enough let's let him learn on the job and it's a good framing i thought yeah thank you and nick's response to that was it's not just like knowing what you're supposed to do it's when things change how do you react to that change um but he did say cooper the jeans coming on he's had a few good practices and uh yeah that he's going to be a part of this. So I'm expecting, I think we're going to see more of DeGene. I know we'll see Isaiah Rogers tonight, but my guess, it would surprise me if they move Quignan inside based on the

way of Quignan's playing. I think it's going to be either Avante-Maddix or Cooper DeGine inside. And potentially some kind of rotation of the both of them. Sure. Yeah, I do think, I do think the Cooper de Gene situation is a little bit different than the discussion we've had, big picture about the tension between Howie Roseman wanting the young guys to play and Nick Siriani and the coaches being beholden to whatever is going to help them win this week and being a little bit safe with that, the Sydney Brown conversation we had last year, because I do think there is something too.

Like he missed a lot of time. He has to be comfortable enough in the defense. And once that is there, then he should be on the field so that he can learn in service of, you know, the team being its best in December. I hear you there. I've also seen them high or signed slot guys on like Wednesday and played on Sunday. I'm not saying like they need to wait a whole half season.

but I think they deserve a little bit more of a leeway than, like, Quinion Mitchell should be out there playing every snap. I'm sorry, I'm not on a lot of sleep right now. Me neither. Yeah, the slot corner, the slot corner they signed last year before the Rams game. Bradley Robey? There you go. Thank you.

Prime time Bradley. They could use him tonight. He saves his best for big games. That's what he told me. You're absolutely right. God, I can't believe I didn't get that one. Good one. That's where teammates, baby.

Yeah. Bradley Roby, they signed him on, like, Tuesday. he played on Sunday. So, I mean, I get he was a veteran. Cooper the Gene is a rookie. I think if he's concentrated on slot corner now for two, three weeks, let him learn on the job. That's my view of it.

Yeah, I think that that's pretty reasonable. Although I don't know, like if Isaiah Rogers is not going to be playing on the defense, I'm curious what they do with those inactives. I mean, presumably he's the top backup on the outside, so he needs to be active, but then does that mean that ring goes down, but he plays on special teams? I don't know. They're going to carry six corners on the active game day roster? I don't know.

And the actions are going to be interesting. In which case, then maybe you don't need Tristan McCollum because of Avantay Maddox can be your backup safety. Yeah, you can see that. Maybe Tristan is the guy that they potentially. They cut. Okay. That's a good one. I have my prediction.

Go ahead. Crystal bald eagle. Crystal bald eagle. I have the Eagles winning this game 24 to 20. So I don't. The classic Zach Middle. Yeah. And I don't.

I have them winning but not covering, and I have this as an under. Okay. I'm going to say the Eagles win this game, 27 to 11. 27 to 11? Yes. A two-point conversion and a field goal?

Yeah, who knows? Well, how messy you? It's under 12. How are they getting 11? It's under 12. That's important because if we want to go to our graphic for our swooper storecasting predictions, of course,

need under 12 for the falcons. Zach, you have three items at play. You have, of course, that little poo-poo platter on the opening drive for the Falcons. Yes. Any of these three things happen? Kirk Cousins has an under-center play action play. I think that one might hit for you because they're really trying to pretend that that's going to be a part of the offense.

Drake London gets at least three targets or Kirk Cousins has a 30-plus yard completion. You also have Kyle Pitts has more receiving yards than the combined mile. of Abington High School and Archbishop Wood to the link. That is 53. So he means at least 54 receiving. Yeah, by the way, good story in the Philadelphia Inquired today by E.J. Smith on Kyle Pitts. Okay.

Good stuff. Shout out to E.J. And then finally, you have the score at the end of any court. Love this one. The score at the end of any quarter features a larger number perfectly divisible by a smaller number. Oh, man.

I'm disappointing you got that one. It's so fun. Yes. I have the Falcons score no more than the 12 points they scored in the 2008. 18 season opener. So I need them 11 or fewer. Sequin Barclay and Drake London have more total yards than Bejohn Robinson and

AJ Brown. Oh, this is all of a sudden. All of a sudden, looking good for me. Although Bejohn could go off. Yeah, no doubt about it. Zach's connection is spotty during the post game show.

Hopefully we can rejigger something on our end to make that happen. I'm worried about this. I think I don't want to name any names here. Okay. I think it's the system that we use. Well, you have to use that system. It's only fair. I know, but there are other video conferencing things. I think it's the video conferencing system that we use because whenever I'm on like Anthony's

show on it this morning. And it's not that the connection went down, but my video was spotty on it. And my video is like pristine all the time in that at home, except with this one system. so well we'll have to find out I also have Jeremiah Trotter Jr. does not play a single snap on either punt or punt return just like he surprisingly did not last week. Fran spent his turkeys like a big spender in his rookie debut Sequin Barclay runs for at least 100 yards.

The Eagles complete a pass using under center play action. Yeah, that's right. The Eagles complete an explosive pass out of an empty set which is defined as 16 or more yards. At least one play is run from either nine-yard lines. in honor of Nick Foles and the Eagles win the game. So there you go. That's it for this bonus episode of the P.H.O.

Yagles podcast. Make sure that you download and subscribe and hit the like button and all that good stuff. Evangelize the show and come back tonight because we've got the kickoff show coming up with Jamie and Rich at 745, the halftime show with Fran and Vinny, Vinny Curry, of course, the Super Bowl champion. Maybe he'll have some thoughts on Nick Folles we can dive into on the postgame show when it's Vinnie Curry, Fran Duffy,

Jamie Lynch, and myself. Thanks to everybody for watching. We'll also, of course, have updates from Zach Berman at the link on the kick-up show and the post-game show. So the whole gang ready to knock this one out of the park on the season opener for the Eagles.

Thanks to everybody for watching and listening. We'll talk to you later tonight and as always, we love you. You're all silly like the mayor