PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - PHLY Eagles Podcast | Philadelphia Eagles training camp: 53-man roster projection check-in; Is James Bradberry in?

Episode Date: August 1, 2024

Ahead of the Eagles’ open practice at the LINC Thursday night, we’re taking a close look at the roster battles on the fringes. Who has the inside edge for wide receiver spots between Parris Campbell, John Ross and crew? How do the spots shake out between Josh Jobe, Eli Ricks, Isaiah Rodgers and the secondary?It’s one for the sickos with Zach Berman and Bo Wulf. How nerdy are you? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello, everybody, and welcome to the P.H.O.I. Eagles podcast on a Thursday, 2 p.m. Bo Wolf, Zach Berman, the Eagles, a practice tonight at The Link. Open for the only time this summer for you lay people. That's at 6.30 p.m. ahead of that. Zach and I doing our little check-in on our 53-man roster is how things stand through the first week of camp, where our positions, where our spots there to be one, who has moved the needle, who's in, who's out, all that good stuff. But, Zach, I got to say. You know, yesterday you did the, the, the, the, the H. H.L.Y. Sixer show with Derek Podner, who was to know that this was the day when the biggest Eagles news would be basketball related. Biggest Eagles news is basketball related. Yesterday. Enlightened me. What was, what biggest piece of course? The CJ Garner Johnson shot to cancel movies. Come on.

Yes, I did see that. Okay. I was, I was curious where you're going with that. Yeah. A good shot by C.J. Garner Johnson. Someone screamed out Kobe and certainly clutch like Kobe are there. Okay. Yeah, they get out of meetings.

I was not prepared. I can assess his jump shot if you want. It's a slope in that auditorium. So it's actually, it can be difficult sometimes to shoot in there. You're not on level ground. All right. There's a lot at stake. there. It's a high pressure shot. Okay. Um, but he was the one thing about C.J.

Gardner Johnson is, well, there's many things about C.J. Garter Johnson, but one thing about CJ Gardner Johnson is he is supremely confident, right? Yeah. It reminds me, it, I think of Jaylon Mills. Jalen Mills was a similar way. And there was a story. I thought of me wired that way as a DB, right? Yeah, there's a story I like to tell about Jalen Mills. I was doing a, I was interviewing him for a story I was working on about him. I spoke to people around him, his family. But I remember asking Jalen, do you remember a time when you were like anxious or nervous or like felt uncomfortable about something? And he, he stopped and he thought and he said the fourth grade.

And it was like it was so illuminating to me because like he's so confident that he can remember the last time he was not confident and i must say i'm playing what he was not confident about in fourth grade yeah it was it was uh there were there was a pair he his shoes were were old model shoes or along that ilk and and there were other kids in his class who had new shoes and he felt um i don't want to put words in his in his mouth it's been it was 2016 when i I wrote that 2000. So, but, but, but that was the last time he, he didn't kind of have like the overflowing confidence.

And yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's a great attribute. I think of, you know, Jay one hurts. So there was an interview, maybe I forget which, uh, person he, he, he said it to or which magazine. And he was, he was talking about, um, it was about clothing. And he said, I'd make it look good. Right? Whatever I wear him is. And I'm like, that's, that's a good way of thinking. It's a healthy way of thinking. All right. Well, there you go. A very nice super chat from Chris, who says, shout out to Zach and Bo just got out of a five-year relationship. And this pod has helped me feel less alone, go birds.

Happy to have you with us, Chris. I think people worried that Zach and I are beginning to end a five-year relationship. Chris, I'm sorry about your, the relationship ending. I am not if it was on his volition, not if he thinks it's for the best long term. It can still still hurt, you know. I'm still sorry about it. It doesn't mean it might not be the best thing, but you invest your time and note, but better days are ahead. Line or step back for a major comeback. You know, this two shall pass.

That's a piece of advice that could that could go, that could apply to anything. is too fast. There's plenty of men who count but none too much in the sea. Yeah, that is not applicable here. But Chris, I appreciate you watching. Thank you very much. All right.

Zach, let's get into this 53-man roster. Now, I approach this a little bit differently than I would have like entering training camp. To me, I think this is an interesting exercise, not as a projection for week one. This would not be

the roster that I would submit if I was predicting what the week one roster is going to look like in a month, I'm looking at this as if the season ended today or if the summer ended today and they had to make a roster tomorrow, what would it look like? And so there are a few things where, for instance, like, I don't know if Anaya Smith is going to improve over the course of the summer, but if the summer plays out like it has over the first week of the season, I would not have Anaya Smith on the roster. So just a little bit of a distinction in the way that I went about this today. I don't know how you did it.

Yeah, mine's forecasting it the way I would if the season were to begin tomorrow. So you take in draft pedigree, right? If I was doing it just simply based on what I've seen in camp, I would not put Anaya Smith on it. But I still think they would lean toward keeping their fifth round pick, although they cut Nate Gary at one point. He was a fifth round pick. They've cut a number of, or I should say it. cut Clayton Thorson. He was a fifth round pick.

So it's certainly not unprecedented. And the other thing is preseason games have a lot to deal with this, of course. You hate to frame it this way. There are going to be injuries, right? I always think back to it was the night before, cut down day after the fourth preseason game in 2014. And I was out with some friends of Julie. is at the uh the uh

the south street beer garden and i receive a text about Travis Long tearing his ACL and it's like hey just the heads up Travis Long tore his ACL and I'm thinking man this is this has serious roster implications and little did I know the implications that it had the butterfly effect helped eagles win the Super Bowl Brandon Graham would have been cut brandon graham stays on the team a few years later brandy graham has

the strip sack to clinch the Super Bowl. And a few years after that, Brandon Graham's still playing year 15 and a Philadelphia icon. So it's a roundabout way of saying injuries are going to happen. Amen. All right. Who do you got a quarterback sack? I would not punctuate that with amen.

A man will get injured, though. Not too much, hopefully. Jenny, I'm sorry, Jalen Hertz, Kenny Pickett. Kenny Pickett, Tanner McKee are my three quarterbacks. This is fairly obvious. Will Greer is cut in this scenario. Are you going to ask Howard Rosman for the pleasure of cutting Will Greer since you're so anti-Will Greer? Well, first of all, I take no pleasure in anyone losing their job.

I mean, if I was a football coach, I think they're contractually obligated to say this, but it is a genuine sentiment. It's probably the worst part of the job, right? is cutting somebody. So, you know, I would take no pleasure in that. But I also think that players know the rules of engagement. And I can't imagine Will Greer is expecting to make the 53-man roster right now. Do you believe them?

Do you believe that they think it's the worst part of the job? Worse than like answering questions after in the middle of like a five-game losing streak? Yeah, no, I do think that. Now, the worst part of the job is when they're the ones getting. Yeah. You know, like I have said this to someone before and like, oh, they're like, God, you know, it was so tough. I hated that. I was like, it's probably tougher for the person getting cut, right?

But it is, I can't imagine it's an enjoyable part of the job. I believe it for most. Like, I believe that Nick Siriani probably views it as the worst part of the job. I don't believe that, like, Bill Belichick thinks that cutting people is the worst part of his job. And why do you say that? Because he probably loves to cut people. Based upon he, you think he loves to cut people. You think like you're invested in this.

You see these guys every day. This is a childhood dream. Some of these players will never play football again. There is absolutely a subset of Hardo coach who does not care about cutting people. Yes. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a part of the process to getting your best roster. I disagree. I think they might be desensitized to maybe the emotion of it.

But I need to imagine that anybody who is around someone working as hard as these players do, trying to achieve a dream decades in the making. And like I said, some of them will never play football again. And you're the one who's bearing this news to them. I don't think anybody enjoys that. I, you would need to lack all type of humanity. Correct. To enjoy that.

And I, I don't think that just because someone's gruff in a press conference doesn't mean they lack humanity. You know, I, yeah, I have a hard time thinking someone enjoys cutdowns. I think, I think you're being a little naive if you don't think that any football coaches lack. a little bit of humanity. I would argue I'm not the one being naive here, but, uh, Oh, what about me being naive about? What are you being naive about? Yeah.

I think you are dehumanizing these coaches. Yeah, I, I think. And like, again, there's a difference between being desensitized to it and enjoying it. Now, they, they might not be- saying it's his favorite part of the job. But I think if, if there's a guy who, if there's a guy who, who Bill Belichick thinks has been dogging it all summer. Okay.

Like, I don't think that he's like losing sleep over cutting that guy. Sure, that guy in particular. But I think the overall action, like getting the Ross is a guy who writes fan letters to someone who's most known for firing people. I mean, I'm not going to get into like that's, that's his business, whatever that is. I think from a, a football, being around these football players. or seeing what they invest in this job, seeing how much this means to them.

You know, you watch Hard Knocks and like it's, I can't, I know, perhaps I'm being a show for coaches here. I don't think, I think that that you can say they lack humanity. I don't think they are, you know, devout of humanity, right? Okay. This is one of our sillier more. Yeah, I would say so. But yeah, I don't believe it.

It's the worst thing for everybody. By the way, this started because you said, are you going to ask the cut Will Greer? That's how this started. You just want to, if you want to know what took us on how we got from A to Z, it was because I was telling you, though, Will Greer is going to be cut.

Literally, a conversation that on any Eagles podcast, I know we're differentiating ourselves would take 13 seconds. And then you say, do you want to cut Will Greer yourself? Yeah. That's the special sauce. Yes. Yeah. Jilline Hertz, Tanner McKee, Kenny Pickett.

No doubt about that. I do, if there's going to be any change here, I think the only thing that could change aside from injury would be a Kenny Pickett trade. And I don't expect that to happen, but that's the only thing that I think would change this calculation. Sure. Great. Running back.

Isaac, I have the same three. we've expected for most of the time. Sequin Barclay, Will Shipley, Kenny Gainwell. But I will say I have been impressed with Lou Nichols over the past couple days. If someone is going to sneak on the roster, I would tilt more towards Lou Nichols than Tyrion Davis Price at this point.

So I have the same three that you do. I wanted to like Tyrion Davis Price. I actually think he runs the ball hard. He can't catch or he's not catching. And that has been problematic there. Kendall Milton haven't seen enough yet to make a strong opinion one way or the other. These guys are going to get work in the preseason. We'll get a better sense then.

But yeah, I would be surprised if the Eagles kept four backs unless they kept one expressly for special teams. Yeah. Do you think they're going to be in the market for a fourth running back? Do you think that this is something they would like to identify on the waiver wire potentially? Or do you think they're comfortable with three? I would imagine they are comfortable with three, especially because Will Shipley helps you on special teams. You know, you know he's going to return.

Sure. If you've got Chipley, you can probably only carry like 45 guys on the roster. He's good for like nine spots. Well, he is a personal player. Practice squad allows, as we know, elevations. And I could be wrong. I don't know if Lou Nichols is going to be like that hotly contested on the waiver wire. I would imagine they can have him on practice squad and elevate him if needed.

But it's notable that they don't have, I mean, Gainwell and Shipley are both undersized players. They don't have somebody behind Sequin Barclay who is a bigger body type. So I think if they were looking for somebody, it would be somebody like that. That's fair. Although, you know, I was talking to Jamal Singleton about this the other day. And I asked if they're going to have the rotation that they're, they've had in the past. They kind of gave coach speak.

But my answer for this, if I can be the translator, they didn't pay Sequin Barclay, $13 million a year to be on the sideline. Seekoine Barclay is going to play more than the running backs they've had here in the past. But if Sequan goes down, they certainly need a third back up there. Did they pay Sequin Barclay to retweet anti-trans propaganda? I did not see that he did that. Contract, okay. Just wondering if that was part of what they paid them for. Okay, we both got three running backs.

I've been transcribing today. That one was way over my head. I don't know if it's something I was supposed to know, but yeah, I don't know what you're referring to. Okay, let's talk about the wide receivers, Zach. And I think one of the more interesting roster battles that we have here, obviously, A.J. Brown and Devante Smith are on this roster. I think we probably both agree that Britain Covey is relatively safely on, given his quality as a returner. And then you're wondering, is it two spots or three spots for the rest of these guys? And is somebody going to grab the mantle as wide receiver three?

For me, I have Paris Campbell on and I have Johnny Wilson on. And right now, that's it. I do not have Anaya Smith on the roster at the moment. I think if you were asking me to project if he's going to be on the roster eventually, I would lean towards yes, but it would be like 52 turkeys to 48. But right now, as a reflection of how things are going, I do not think that he would be on the roster if they were making decisions tomorrow. That's interesting.

I have him on my 53, not by merit, but by draft status. I have A.J. Brown, DeFonte Smith, Britton Covey, Paris Campbell, Anaya Smith, Johnny Wilson. I'm not convinced that Britain Covey has this sign sealed and then deliver. I would keep written covey. I think that Britain Covey, what he's shown in the return game, he's shown promise as a pass catcher before, but especially this training camp.

It's something that I've been reading people saying he's having like a great camp as a receiver. That's not exactly what I have seen. Yes, Saturday's practice, I thought was a really good Britain Covey practice. Okay. That was one I didn't see. But I, yeah, I mean, I think it's a little bit of a stretch. Like sometimes, look, I'm far from an astute practice observer. I think I'm like a decent practice observer.

But no, it's not like the best part of my game. But I think sometimes past catchers can be high. Like if you make the catch, it seems like you're having a big day, right? In a passing camp type situation. Not to take anything away from Britten Covey. I thought he had a real good rep against Tyler Hall in one-on-ones two days ago. and he said he's been watching Cole Beasley. He's watching a lot of Cole Beasley this offseason.

He had a funny quote, like it doesn't do him any good to watch D.K. Maccalf. Like he can't learn anything from D.K. Metcalfe, right? It's like what John Ross said about A.J. Brown, right? Yeah, exactly. But speaking of John Ross, that was a great segue by an outstanding host. John Ross, I don't have all my 53 right now, but I am intrigued by John And I think that he's, I like the way he's played this summer.

Well, I should have meant that. I like the way he's run this summer. And he still is fast. I think that in one-on-ones in particular the other day, I liked what he showed. The fact that he's getting work with the ones, I don't think is by accident here. I don't have him on my 53 at the moment. But I do think he is a player to watch. And I also think just in terms of the game theory of it, I mean, he was a tri-out player in the spring, unless he has a monster preseason.

I think you would feel pretty comfortable that he's going to slide through to the practice squad. And he's actually a perfect practice squad player because his speed is going to play as, you know, get you ready for the next week's opponent. He can be the speed guy. And if you want to elevate him and have him be a bit part of the offense, you can do that too. it's unfortunate that like that's his status as a veteran for him but i think i think he's much more suited for a practice squad spot than an active roster spot do you think that this is six no matter what i've only got five or i'm sorry do you think that um they'll they'll try to keep six like like do you think they'll bring in someone from the outside when i say six no matter what

No. Because you have them late at running back wide receiver, three backs, five. And tight end. I'm going to have. I'm only going to have three tight ends. Interesting. I think, I just think, I don't know that it's a, I don't think it's a number preference. I don't think it's, they care what the number is, but I think they're definitely going to want to bring in receivers here.

And like, you know, Paris Campbell has had a few nice moments. Jalen Hertz early on was willing to throw him the ball in team periods. that's maybe the most notable thing. But I do think long term, this is where, you know, when we had the conversation about should Sidney Brown be playing in September because it's going to look, you know, the December Eagles are going to be more suited. I think a lot of the young guys this year are not necessarily in that situation. Like, I don't think that Queenie and Mitchell needs to be on the field because they have other

young guy options, right? But I actually do think that unless they're trading for somebody or adding somebody, I would like to see Johnny Wilson getting more work with the ones right now just to build that rapport with Jalen Hertz. I think he's the likeliest candidate to work his way into that rotation come midseason. So I would like to see a little bit more of that happening. But I also can't say that he has earned that opportunity through the first week of the season. He's not the most dynamic guy.

He looks like a tight end out there. But I think that he brings more to the table than the other options. And I'll continue with the announcement. analysis that this is real expert type stuff here they can't afford a j brown defa fonte smith going down they just don't have they don't have depth there they don't have numbers there i understand the counter is no team can afford like an all pro going down but some years you're better position than other years i know nick syriani said uh earlier the this this week last weekend i forget specifically when it was that this is the best group of fight from one to 13

that he's ever had. I have a hard time believing Nixiriani on that. I don't think this is, I've seen, in my 13 years, I've seen better ones to 13s, and I haven't seen a better top of the receiving court. Yeah, I think that's fair. You could even call AJ Brown and Devante Smith the two aces on the outside, Zach. The two aces on the outside. Am I reading this or do you want to?

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That's right. Okay, tight end. Who do you got, Zach? My tight ends are. Well, this is obvious. Dallas got her. Grant Calcutterra. Actually, it's not obvious.

I have CJ Usama. CJ Usama hasn't necessarily blown the doors off here in terms of like they need to keep him. But Albert O hasn't either. E.J. Jenkins made a few nice catches, but I don't have them keeping E.J. Jenkins. McCallon Castles, I know there's some McCallon Castle's buzz in the media core. It's not palpable yet, but it's that's the thing about a buzz is it starts. and then, you know, you start to hear that B around you, and then all of a sudden it's like swarming, right?

So you get stung, yeah. Yeah, so McCowan Castles, there is some buzz there. I have once, actually. Only once. What happened? How about you? I think a couple times, three times or so. I remember the first time I got stung by B.

I was maybe like six years old, and I fell off my chair at a restaurant. That's the memory in my head. When you think of bee stings, what do you think of? When I think of B-stings, what do I think of? The movie where McCauley Cullin dies? Yes. Yeah, that's exactly what I think of.

Yeah, the end of that movie when he gets stung. Yeah. What is that? My Girl? Is that what it's called? Maybe so. Do, do, do, do, do. Yeah, it is my girl.

Yeah, so who are your three or four? Yeah, I've got Dallas Gotter. And I'm curious. I was talking about this. on the morning show this morning with cousin VG about Dallas got it. So I'm curious to hear your expectations. But I've got Grant Calcutera. And then right now I do not have CJ Usama on the team.

He hasn't done enough to earn that roster spot. Maybe they eventually keep him. Right now, now this is the distinction between right now versus their projection. If I was, if I'm guessing who is going to make the roster right now, I think I would put McAllen Castles on it. I think the Eagles would like to keep the streak of, you know, one undrafted guy. He would be the one. There's a bit of a, you know, a bit of a stole to him. You get the, you get the four years of cost control. But right now, the one who I think has earned it and has done more. I got E.J. Jenkins on my, you know, August 2nd, 53-man roster. I think he has

looked good. He's got a nice rapport with, with Tanner McKee. And I think he's made plays dating back to the spring. So I'm giving a little shout out to E.J. Jenkins for right now. I'm going to have my tight end and eat it too. And what about E.J. in particular? He gets open and he makes, he makes plays. He has made, E.J. Jenkins has made more plays as a receiver, I think, over the course of camp than anyone aside from A.J. Brown and Devante Smith.

Wow. Like caught more balls 10 yards down the field. I would need to check with Elliot on the data for that one. That's interesting. I mean, Shipley has actually would be involved there. Of course, yes, naturally. I think it's, I think in the flash bulbs of my mind, it's, it's E.J. Jenkins. Okay.

Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying I don't like what I've seen from E.J. Jenkins. I still think that they would lean towards C.J. Usama. Do we both agree. Grand Capitara is kind of set in stone as the number two? I mean, I would not say set in stone, but I would say usage-wise, he has been the guy. Do you see a scenario where Grant Calcutterra is not the second tight end this year? Yeah, if they could trade somebody or they claim somebody. Yeah, I think that's possible.

McDonald's still available. Well, he's actually not available, but you can probably trade for him, is my point. Well, everybody's got a price. Yeah, when you, I mean, you said, do you think that, do you think that Grant Calcutera is set in stone as the number? I mean, he has been the guy all camp, but we're talking about someone who has nine career catches. He had four catches last year. Yeah, I mean, he's the way they are talking about him.

They're not talking about this like it's a competition. They're talking about this like Grant Cowell is the number two tight end. So this is me going based on what they say, although sometimes you have to watch what they do and not what they say. I get that. Yeah, I mean, we don't need a stenographer. We need an analyst. By the way, talking about it.

poppable buzz. There's a palpable buzz about this appearance you've had on, what is it, the NFL Daily Show? Is that what it's called? Oh, really? With Greg Rosenthal? Oh, yeah. On time yesterday. I have not listened to it yet.

Thursday is a gym day, not a walking day. So I haven't listened to you yet. But my drive-in, I'm going to listen to it. And let's just say that there's been more than one text message to me about this appearance. So I don't quite know. What are the tenors of those text messages? I need to listen and evaluate this.

No, I want to know what the text say. What the text say? The text is like essentially saying, if you need some material, you know, there's a, you got to listen to this pod. So I'm eager to listen. I want to know who you're hearing from. A reporter can never reveal his sources or her sources. Yes.

But there is, it's more than one. And I am told that there is material to be used. There's always material. Yeah, it was a fun time. You should listen to it. You can listen to the NFL Daily podcast. The good news is Greg found his tortoise. So that's the most important thing.

All right. I guess we should move things along. We're halfway through and we haven't even moved into the offensive line yet. But, Zach, on Dallas got her pretty wide. variance and the expectations you could have for Dallas Goddard this year. We had never seen him put it all together for that one fully healthy season, but he's also 29 years old and banged up consistently. Do you view him as something of a like a variable for the team this year? Like as Dallas Goddard goes, so goes the offense. Good question. I don't view it in that context. I do think they need more of the doubt. Scottert from 2022. I don't think Goddard played to his maximum last year. I think in 2022, he was a better player than the numbers suggest.

I think that that was a year where if he had more targets, he would have had a lot more production because he was playing awesome that year. And I think the advanced data shows you that. And in particular, like the yards per target. I don't know how advanced yards per target is. It's yards divided by targets, right? but I would say last year I actually didn't think Goddard played as well as he needed to play and I think that he can raise the offense but I don't think he is like the big variable for the offense

yeah I think that's fair I agree that he did not just physically look as threatening in the open field last year as he was and the numbers do bear that out he was he was not as productive after the catch. I would like to see, you know, I think the 2022 version of Dallas Goddard would make a big difference in this offense versus if he's just sort of on a steady decline. And all of a sudden that number three option in the passing game is not as dynamic as it could be. Yeah, I think he's, I think he's playing for his, his Eagles future here. Yeah.

I think that if he doesn't have a good year, even if he, If he's a middle and year, then I think everyone in Philly's going to know who Colton Loveland is or who Oscar Delp is next year. I would like, just as a note, I'd like you to start just making up names for these. Oh, really? I think that would be fun because those, I mean, that was just gibberish to me. Oscar Delp? Oscar Delp is awesome. Yeah, he's the top ten of Georgia when Brock Bowers went down last year.

Oscar Delp. Oscar Delp. And he was awesome. Yeah. Colton Loveland at Michigan, dude can play. I mean, so, yeah,

this is, I'm not saying this is like, there's no Kyle Pitts in this class, but this is a good class, number one. And Oscar Delp, Oscar Delp's going to be a riser this, this fall.

Just watch him there. All right. Big, big, spot for all the Delpads out there. That's nice. All right. Offensive lines, Zach, I've got 10 players right now. I have Jordan Milana, Lany Dickerson, Cam Jurgens, Tyler Steen, Lane Johnson, Mackay Beckton, Trevor Keegan, Matt Hennessey, Fred Johnson, and Dylan McMahon. I don't think there are any huge surprises there. I think when we did this exercise in the spring, I had Fred

Johnson off. I think he has looked pretty good this summer, maybe, you know, more reliable. at tackle even than Mackay Bechton. So I think he is looking relatively safe at the moment. I know that there has been some disparity on the reports on Matt Hennessy. I think that Matt Hennessy has looked very good. So I have him on as well. And too early on the Nick Gates front, I've got them keeping McMahon and Keegan. That's my 10 at the moment. Yeah, I had the same 10. Mylotta Dickerson Juergenstein, Johnson, Beckton, Keegan, McMahon, Johnson, Hennessy. I am curious to watch Nick Gates. I don't know how great advantage point I will get tonight, but now that you say that,

I need to put a reminder in my phone, bring binoculars. If you don't mind, this is journal's inaction. This is not a sausage gets made. Yeah, this is fantastic. This is good stuff. Bring binoculars. Okay. And adding that, that's why I'm going to get the alert.

Are you going to notebook or loosely? for notes tonight? Tonight notebook. No book. Because actually I'll be in front of my laptop, although I am going to if I, there's a part of practice where I'm going to be watching in the stands because Emily and Reader going with some friends.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, he's never seen me at work before. Other than when he came to the show, he's seen me do the show. He's never seen me watch a practice before. So I want to. But we got to come to the press box. during the preseason last summer.

Well, we were quick in and out. He didn't actually see me working. So we're on the field for the first, what, 20 minutes before? Yeah. So, yeah, he'll get to see me with the great bobov. It's very exciting. Yeah, I remember last year you were walking out of the tunnel. And there's all these cheers.

And I was like, this must be, this must feel like what it's like being with the Beatles. Don't patronize me. I'm just reporting what I saw. I think we can just gloss over these special teamers. Those three are easy to go. Jake Elliott, Rick Levato, Braden Man. Rick Levado is the Eagles long snapper. Yada, yada, yada.

Edge ones. Here's where I have one surprise edition, Zach. And this is based on the first week of camp. And sort of the back end of the roster, a couple spots unclaimed. And I'm going to give one here. So I've got Brandon Graham, Bryce Huff, Josh Schwett, Nolan Smith, Jailix Hunt, and I've got a sixth edge, Terrell Lewis, who I think is at a solid start to camp. And this is one where prediction-wise, I don't think that this will keep up.

I would not bet on Terrell Lewis making the roster eventually, but right now I give him the edge over Patrick Johnson and anybody else. Okay. You like Terrell Lewis more than Joy in O'Quarr of the intriguing edge rushers? I do. Because of the length? But I all because I think I've seen him do more. I've seen him do more as a pass rusher. But I also think, I get a great PBU where man, those long long.

He's also, this is one where you got to factor in the competition, but, you know, he, demolished Darren Kinnard at left tackle twice. maybe that's more of a canard than a Terrell Lewis thing. And Nick Siriani did talk up Patrick Johnson the other day. They know what he brings on special teams. Push come to shove. They probably would lean towards Patrick Johnson, but I wanted to give a little shout to Terrell Lewis.

Yeah. I have five here. Bryce Huff, Josh Sweat, Brandon Graham, Nolan Smith, J.Ox Hunt. My sixth, based on what I've seen, will be Joey O'Quara over Terrell Lewis. But both of them have relative draft pedigree. Joint acquires a little more production in the league.

Terrell Lewis has a little more length. Terrell Lewis played at Alabama with Jalen Hurts, played at Alabama with Devante Smith. So yeah, we'll see what happens there. But I have five here. I actually wanted to push more edge rushers and defensive linemen than I have. I'm probably a little too deep in the secondary right now.

but that's just kind of the way that the roster is assembled. Who do you got a defensive tackle? Well, I have five here, but that's only because Booker is going to Canton tonight. I'm getting back, because I enjoy, like, I respect Thomas Booker. I like Thomas Booker. But I have five here. John Carter, Jordan Davis, Milton Williams, Marlon Tuey, Pellote. and Morrow Ojimo, the man of the same five.

Okay. Pre training camp on my 53, I had Gay Paul. I have not seen enough yet from Gay Paul, but I'm eager to watch Gay Paul in the preseason. Me too. I agree. He hasn't quite much. The way that you say his name makes me laugh.

Gabe Paul? Yes. Is there a different way to say Gabe Hall? It's just funny. How would you say? Say the name. Gabe Hall. And I said Gabe Hall.

You say Gabe Hall. I said Gabe Hall. Gabe Hall. Yeah. I mean, I'm not even like trying to be funny here. I'm saying the man's name. I can't help you. I don't even want to.

called sophomore humor. Like, uh, I, yeah, I, uh, I say Gabe, Gabe Hall. I don't think I say any differently than you say it. Do you want me to take a little more of a breath in between Gabe and Hall? Gabe Hall. Okay. Gabe Hall. I am eager to watch Gabe Hall in practice.

Um, I'm sorry, in preseason games. I want to see if you can get some, some of my penetration on the, on the, on the line scrimmage. But I think he's, I think, I liked him coming out. I liked, yeah. So let's just keep rolling here. Julia, the good news is we have our clip, our VOD for the show. We can just put up the whole Game Hall segment on YouTube.

I think that'll be, that'll be good. I actually think we should do whether coaches feel bad about coffee. That would be the, yeah, that would dominate the algorithm. them. Just to say, I think PJ Mustafa is a player to keep in mind. Marlon 2, Pilateau has looked pretty good by my eyes so far. Ojamo has a little bit underwhelmed, but if they want another bigger body, Mustafa would be the guy there.

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I have Van Sumer and over Berks at the moment. I could go lighter here to add a defensive lineman or Nedge defender, maybe a Joanne O'Guarda. But I have Devin White, Zach Bonn, Nicobo Dean, Benvin, Sumeran, and Jeremiah Trotter Jr. Now, maybe I look like a fool when Warren Berks is back. But you can't make the team on the injured list. So I'm curious to see. Super chat from Jalenal, Siko Dio Maday says, Gabe All, Gabe Hall, Gabe Hall, Gabe Hall.

We're contractually obligated to read that, Zach. All right. That leaves. How many spots do you have left for the secondary? I have 11 spots. I'm sorry, 10 spots for the secondary. 10 spots. I have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 as well.

So we both have 10. Who are your 10? And then I feel like we'll have one difference. Darius Lay, Isaiah Rogers, Quinnon Mitchell, Cooper DeGene, Keeley Ringo, Eli Ricks. And then I have C.J. Garner Johnson read Blanketship. At the moment, I have Sidney Brown, but that could be a roster spot if he doesn't start the season on Pup.

And I have Avanti Maddox. Okay. We have two differences, actually. I have Cigarne on Pup. Okay. That probably makes sense. Now, this is, again, this is if the season started tomorrow. You know, Sidney Brown is going to have to get back in order to prove that he can be on the roster week one.

And because I have him on Pup, you know, they do not have safety help. So I have, in addition to Avantime-M-M-Ax, I have James Bradbury on the team right now. That would be a good story. Great thumbnail for today's shot, for today's show, though, too. And, you know, I still don't really expect him to make the roster. But I think if the roster math is as it is now, he's being a good soldier. right? Like he's learning the position. I think he's actually looked pretty active. They're paying him anyway. I don't think it's crazy. Now, you're guaranteeing the, I guess he's, but it's all guaranteed anyway. So the idea of not having him on the week one roster doesn't make as much sense for him. So right now I do have him on.

Look, I think that based on play, I can see it. I still think that, Yeah, I don't anticipate that occurring. I still think they try to move on from him. I don't think you have James Bradbury as a backup on the 53, but like we've said, they're paying him regardless, right? So if you're paying him regardless and he's being a good soldier, if you will, I can understand it. They do need depth at safety.

I think Avanti Maddox sufficiently supplies that, or I think he supplies that depth. I think Cooper to Jean, when the Gene's back, It wouldn't surprise me, especially if Quinnian Mitchell's taking time in the slot, if they start to play Cooper the Gene a little bit at safety, just to prepare them for a backup role. That would not surprise me. But I am going at this point with Bradbury off, although I can certainly understand the argument for putting them on. And then my only other, my other difference is I have Josh Job instead of Eli Ricks because I'm just,

boosting special teams. Job is a good special teams player. I don't think he's guaranteed of making this team by any means. But I have not seen much for me, Eli Ricks, this summer. And I do think that he is a guy who they can, you know, flip for another player. Maybe a Donald Parham. Look, if the Chargers would do that, I mean, that certainly makes sense. You get a 6-8 tight end who's played in this offense before, who can be a threat in the red zone.

Sign me up for that. Yeah, I've always liked Donald Parham. We know. Yeah. Another super chat, Zach, from JASDM, who says the sophomoric humor is part of the special sauce. Jowen, Al Sicko, D-O, Mad Day. I appreciate you watching us. I like to think we do have a special sauce on the show.

I don't believe the sophomore humor is that special sauce. That's just my personal opinion. but, look, reasonable minds can disagree. I think as a fan of comedy, I don't enjoy sophomore humor. Yeah. Are you offended by that? You have, you're like, your comedy taste is like Sebastian Manuscalco. Yeah, he's not up there doing like fart jokes, you know, he's.

Am I doing fart jokes? I mean, he's not like, um, he's doing like really well thought. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's real craft. Yeah. Yeah. John Malini, same thing.

Those are not the same thing. Yeah, look, I. Those are not even close to the same thing. They're not even the same category. Do you like John Malini? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. And you don't like Sebastian Mancalsco. I mean, I think, I think his one joke is a solid joke. He's made a whole career out of one joke. Out of one joke. What's the one joke? He's doing a very cartoonish Italian impression. He does more than that.

But I find him funny. I don't find sophomore humor as funny. Everyone can look, that's the great thing about comedy. There's different, you know. It's like lacerating a toe. There's so many ways to do it. Yeah, there's a lot of different types of comedy. You can enjoy the sophomore humor.

I can enjoy Sebastian. The highbrow. The highbrow of Sebastian, yeah. The thinking man comic. Well, first off, the physical comedy that he has is outstanding. And also like the observational comedy is outstanding as well. Yeah.

Same thing with John Mullaney. I'm seeing a comedy show tomorrow night. Looking forward to that. Who you're saying? It's actually a comic Emily likes. I don't know much about him. His name is Jared Freed. He's performing in Atlantic City.

I don't know him, actually. Yeah, he's got a Netflix special. So, but yeah, I'm going with Emily to that one. Okay, that sounds like fun. We have another, super chat from Jason who wants to know your take, Zach, on broccoli pizza? I don't like broccoli pizza. Now, once again, if you like broccoli pizza, I got nothing wrong with that.

But I'm not a huge broccoli guy as it is. Broccoli is not a vegetable that I particularly enjoy. There's other vegetables. What's that? I like broccoli. Okay. Once again, nothing wrong with broccoli. Give me your top three.

vegetables to have. In general or on pizza? Let's go in general. In general. Let's go with, well, are we like doing the technicality, tomatoes or fruits kind of thing? Yeah, let's not include tomato. I mean, I guess if you want to include tomato, you can. Yeah, I mean, I always thought a tomato as a fruit.

I'm sorry, it's a vegetable and then a total is a fruit. But let's go with, I'd like, Vidalia onions. Okay. I like corn. Okay. I like spinach. You like spinach or you or you you eat it because it's healthy? I like spinach. I mean just not not the raw spinach but you you put a little you know seasoning on it. Wilt that bad boy. Yeah. I'm trying to think what else. I like sweet peppers like hot peppers. Okay. Okay. Um Yeah, I mean, I like mushrooms if they're roasted. Actually, sweet potatoes are my favorite sweet potatoes.

That's a good one. What about you? Well, I'm thinking of the greens. I like a broccoli, like an asparagus, a green bean. I mean, I'm in all that. I like a Brussels sprout. I like the lot of green vegetables. Roast those bad boys, grill them?

Fantastic. Yeah, I like grilled asparagus. I don't like raw asparagus. Well, yeah, I'm not, I don't want, I'm not advocating for raw asparagus. Okay. But, I mean, I like snap peas. Those are good. Not bad.

I'm glad I'm missing, J1 Hertz for this, right? Broccoli pizza, I would say broccoli pizza is basically a salad. I mean, you're putting broccoli on on pizza. You're good to go. That's a healthy meal. Yeah. My general, I would say, I don't, I would not order a broccoli. pizza as my only pizza but I mean I'll have a slice it's a piece of pizza I'm not

what's your pizza topping hmm I mean I do agree I do think that the best way to judge a pizza is a plain slice well of course I'm going to somewhere that I can't trust I'm gonna get a good plain slice I don't mind like a like a mushroom and pepper situation okay and then I I I don't mind like a little little chicken on a pizza. I think if you're if you're going to a like the not highest quality pizza place that can be a safe option not anti pepperoni not anti-sauce and actually like a sausage Vidalia onion to your Vidalia onion is a nice is a nice little combination I like Tracer Bolt's wife this is the option that's a drop

Tracer Bow its wife says oh oh but please stop that. Treasure Bull is says, my wife. Tracer Bullets' wife. No, Tracer Bullets says, my wife, what does this have to do with football? Tracer Bullitt, me, nothing. Tracer Bowler, my wife, then why are they still talking? We're supposed to go to three o'clock. Yeah, I know. We could have talked to football. We didn't have to talk.

You said there's a question in the chat, broccoli pizza. What are your thoughts on? That was a super chat. We had to read it. Okay, okay. Yeah, so let me just tell you about tonight, okay. Carrots. I forgot we forgot about carrots. Carrots are good.

Yeah, carrots are good too. Okay. So, Eagles are on the practice field tonight, 630. They are not practicing. They haven't walked through tomorrow. They have an off day Saturday. I'm curious when we talked to Nick Siriani tonight, why they structured the schedule the way they did.

Because this is the thick of camp. And they basically have one practice in, what, a five-day span? It's weird. And then they're going to practice four days in a row, right? Yeah, very weird. So we'll find out about that. But I think overall, what to watch for tonight, I actually think they're going to show more than you expect.

Like, I don't think it's going to be a nothing practice. I think there's, I think it's going to be a scrimmage heavy practice, right? But I think you're, yeah, if you're, yeah, if you're, going tonight, you'll be able to to ascertain some things. I don't think they're, they're not going to do anything out there tonight. It's not going to be a great like O-line, D-line night, right? They're confined to one field. But it should be a fun practice to watch. I imagine they'll go about an hour and a half. So you're thinking like 630 to 8. I'm curious to see what kind of crowd is. It's a, it's a hot night, but it's a nice night out. No Phillies game.

So I'm expecting, you know, probably see, you know what, what, 40, 50,000 people there tonight. The only practice of the summer. Tickets, it goes to a good cause, Eagles Autism Foundation. And yeah, but so we will have a show tomorrow where we will talk about what we saw in tonight's practice and some other material. But then, as Beau alluded to next week, really, you want, is the thick of training camp. Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. four consecutive practices. Big, you know, those are, that's the only four-day stretch during camp.

And what you also have to have to understand is after that stretch, it becomes very fragmented. They have a game next Friday, right? And then they go to New England for a practice, for one practice the following week. And then they have a game. And then they have, there's like a week there leading to the third game, right? And then you start to, the eyes start to turn toward Brazil. So for like the traditional training camp, the four days Sunday to Wednesday, I think is the most important stretch. And I would, the only thing I would add to that is we forgot about cauliflower, like a cauliflower.

I thought the only thing you would add to the practice part of it. Yeah. You like a cauliflower. Okay. Bok choy, radikio. Yeah. I took my children to a pizza spot last week and I had cauliflower crust. I was trying to be on the healthier side.

It actually was pretty good. Didn't taste good. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. It wasn't bad. It wasn't the same, but it wasn't bad. It could be a lot worse, right? Yeah, it could be a lot worse, but it could be a lot better, too.

I'd rather just have a slice of pizza and eat some cauliflower than, you know, mix it all together. The whole point, though, is, is like to reduce the carbon intake, right? I understand the point. I'd rather live my life. Okay. I don't think reducing carbs should be a controversial take. I'm sorry. Oh, but I'm just saying, like, eat the thing you like and eat some other healthy stuff, too. Don't like what you're ruining two things if you're having cauliflower pizza. I know how you feel about preserving personal liberties. I get that. So, yeah.

Yeah, no, I'm with you there. Actually, but the Caliph mentions the cauliflower rice. I actually don't, I don't mind the cauliflower rice. I'm curious with BG. talking about right now. He's still going. Okay. Well, that I had the second screen here, uh, but I, I obviously can't hear it. So no, so, uh, just as an observational thing, it's, uh, you can tell like from the, nonverbal watching or right, right, it's how some of these questions are very long, right? Because if, if you see like the player sitting there for, you know, for like 40 seconds, not

saying anything, right? The question is still going on. So well, let's let's let's hop to it then, Zach. We will close the show now. Thanks everybody for watching and listening back tomorrow at 2 o'clock to talk about what we see tonight at the link for all of us at PHLY. We thank you for listening and watching. Make sure you like and subscribe and all that good stuff. Stay tuned for Anthony's show in the morning. And as always, we love you.