PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - PHLY Eagles Podcast | Philadelphia Eagles training camp, Day 1: Jalen Hurts shines with eyes on his HC relationship

Episode Date: July 24, 2024

The first day of Eagles training camp is in the books and it was a busy day, with press conferences for Howie Roseman, Nick Sirianni, Jalen Hurts, Saquon Barkley, A.J. Brown, DeVonta Smith and Brandon Graham. The practice had everything — touchdown passes, depth-chart rotations, Parris Campbell end-arounds, vomit!Zach Berman and Bo Wulf are here to tell you everything they saw at the NovaCare Complex. Join them, won’t you? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

It's the clickety clack. Hello everybody. And welcome to the P. H.L.Y. Eagles podcast training camp 24. Day one is in the books. Bull Wolf, Zach Berman here to tell you all about it. We heard from Howie Roseman. We heard from Nick Siriani. We heard from Jalen Hertz, A.J. Brown, Seguan Barkley, Devante Smith, Braina Graham. We saw touchdown passes. We saw depth chart rotations. We saw puk. What a day, Zach. How you doing? Let's go. You're doing great. It was, it's great to be here. doing a live show fresh off the field. It was great being down at the facility.

Football seasons in the air now. We're here. We're there. After months of figuring out what are we going to talk about, how are we going to fill an hour? Now I'm wondering how are we going to get it all in? There's too much to talk about.

The good thing is that we're here every day. After every practice, every day, we're here. So excited for that. Okay. What was your big takeaway today? So open-ended. Wow. Okay.

Would you like, let me ask you this. I think we should start with the press conference stuff first. Sure. And then we can get into the specifics of what we saw on the field. The practice report is already up on all pHLY.com. If you're a diehard. Great job. You're fast, man.

Banged it out, ran in the rain to get here. We both got here about five minutes ago. This is going to be great. Loving the energy that we have here for training camp sack. Okay. So before practice, we hear from Howie Roseman and Nick Siriani. The other guys are after practice. I think the big thing, and we can roll in Jalen Hertz a little bit here,

because the big thing that everybody wanted to ask about, I mean, Nick and Jalen, Nick and Jalen, how are things going? What's the nature of your relationship? Jalen, like, you let this thing linger for a long time. How are things going here? What did Nick Siriani say about it? What did Jailen Hurt say about it if you could hear him? Yeah, Nick Siriani said there were relationships good,

and that he's not paying attention to the reports. He lives this. He knows what it is. He didn't say great, though. He said good. He did say good. He said good. I mean, if he's like, all you can do is judge your relationship on the interactions

you have. And, you know, I got to tell you, like, our relationship is good. It's good. Yeah, it's good. It's not bad. It's good. Okay. Joe hurts.

That's honest. Yeah. He's not trying to pretend like they're best friends. Yeah. Jowen hurts. Well, first off, Jalen, well, are we getting the jail? Sure. I think for this part, we can talk, Jalen.

Yeah. So Jalen interrupted the question. He knew this was coming. Yeah. He interrupted it. give a general opening statement about like the excitement of the year and working hard and all that and then follow up if you're going to give an opening statement then just give the opening statement don't cut the person off so that you can give the opening statement you know what i well i

i he knew where was going perhaps the intent was always for him to give the opening statement but the question jumps in in any event uh jlin hertz said i think we're in a great place regarding him and xiriani anytime you have any frustration anytime you have any frustration anytime you have any adversity that you have to overcome, it's supposed to test you. It's a matter of being on the same page. If we're on the same page, maybe we would have accomplished the things we would have, and we didn't. It's a learning experience. It's as simple as if, if I made it happen, I can make it happen.

What does that mean? What does that mean? Okay. Can you translate for me? So the question was about from where they were last season. It was about a report about where they were, about. the like a disconnect last year. Okay.

And he said they're in a great place. He intimated there that they weren't on the same page last year. Because he said if we're on the same page, maybe we would have accomplished the things we would have. Right. And we didn't. He said it's a learning experience. He says, if I made it happen, I can make it happen. And meaning that they've been in a good place, that they've won, and that they'll get back to that.

Okay. So the end of then Joan had a lot else to say, which we will get into. I don't think there was this like vociferous scream from the hills. Everything's fine, nothing to see here type thing. I mean, they, that would have been, that would have been silly. Right. Like, or it could have been, it could have been a state. Like, it could have been very clear.

What are you guys talking about? Jaylon and me texted every day. I mean, I remember their first year actually, Nick Siriani said, Jaylon calls them or like they text at 9 o'clock at night, right? They could come with examples of, you know, Jalen checked in on me on this day and, you know, we were joking before. Like there could have been things that they said or did to completely try to eradicate the notion that there was any type of issue here. Right, but that would have been farcical. Disingenuous, perhaps.

Sure. So they were not disingenuous in that regard. But they, yeah, Nick said they're in a good place. Jalen said, I think we're in a great place. Time will tell. It's an interesting dynamic because in one respect, you kind of feel like you're in high school again, trying to figure out who likes who, right? And then in the other respect.

Check yes or no, yeah. It's the coach and the quarterback, right? So it's the most important relationship in the franchise. Doug Peterson used to say him and Carson once were married until they weren't and they got divorced, right? So that's something to monitor here. Okay. So any just general takeaways for you about the Siriani Hertz, the moving forward. Yeah. Well, I think that these are grown men. They can put the past in the past. They have a common goal and they know that it's in both of their best interests for them to work together well.

So I, if I'm reading between the lines or if I'm trying to kind of put in form speculation together, obviously last year did not go well. The way last year ended did not go well. We've covered that ad nauseum. No one seems to have a clear picture of what went wrong. And I think that might be part of the disconnect here is that maybe from Jaylen's perspective, like Nick didn't do a good enough job. From Nick's perspective, maybe Jalen didn't do a good enough job. And so it's a new season.

It's a big year for both of them. Like Nick's the head coach, Jalen's the quarterback. that's not changing right now. And I don't know if there is an issue between them, but I didn't get the impression today that there's this deep simmering problem. I also didn't get the impression that, like, oh, you guys are making something out of nothing. Also, by nature of the way that the offense is set up now, they don't work as closely together as they did last season.

And so actually their relationship probably matters a little bit less now than it did last season because Nick is not calling the offense. Nick is not having to see the game through Jalen Hertz's eyes as he is, you know, figuring out what to what to call. Sure, but. What to put together on the game plan. Of course, it still matters. Yeah, but Nick needs Jalen, basically, right?

I mean, Nick's not going to be here for year five if Jalen's not good. So. Oh, undoubtedly. Yeah. So that's a Nick thing, not a franchise thing. Sure. Sure. So what else from the opening press conferences there was,

there's uh this is the only time you know we haven't spoken to how he since the draft we will speak to him again probably during cut down day yep and then maybe not again until you know the playoffs they get there or the end of the season or you know that or yeah or the combine or whatever yeah end of the season sometimes trade deadline but yeah so i i got the impression that how his eyes are wide open about looking for a third wide receiver that seemed pretty apparent yeah he did not he did not you know tried to uh he was not disingenuous he was not disingenuous us about okay we're feeling great about what we have there um i think he's he seemed very eyes open about as you said yeah we've still maybe got some work here to do yeah um i i i asked about nicoby dean

i i thought they were kind of honest that like nicoboby needs to go earn this spot he's motivated but it's it's certainly not like last year where nicoby was the clear starter um right guard they they don't need to make that decision right now tyler we'll get into depth charts things but they said Tyler Steen starting off a right guard. Mackay Beckton's going to play both guard and tackle this summer. We'll get into that. A lot of it was about kind of the progression of the offense. Howie, as far as some substance stuff, you wanted his review of Hard Knocks.

Yeah, you know, I should have asked it in a different way. I asked like, have you been enjoying it or just more open? And, you know, that gave him an opportunity to be like, oh, what Hard Knocks? What I should have said was, you know, Howie, I know that you care about everything that's going on in the league. You don't often get cameras in an opposing front office. I'm sure you have been watching what have been your takeaways. I should have been a little bit more pointed.

Lazy question. No, that's OK. But that's OK, because I followed up with a better question about Vic Fangio. And you want to share what the answer was? Well, I said, you know, for so long, this is a thing that you and I have talked about. For so long, the franchise with you at the helm

has been very pointed about having depth along the defensive line in having a deep rotation and guys not playing too many snaps. Vic Fangio's history suggests that he leans much more heavily on the top defensive linemen. How are we going to square that moving forward? How do you find the commonality? And I actually appreciated this answer because he did seem honest. Like, this is Vic's defense. And he talked about the importance of making sure that these guys are in good shape.

You might see guys who would have been between 55 and 60 percent, you know, snap share in the past. Now they're going to be at like 65. 70%. And I think that this is really interesting because I think that, you know, they have wanted Vic for so long. You got to hand the reins over to Vic. Like he's here. He gets to do things his way for the most part. I don't know that like in his heart of hearts how he thinks that this is the best thing for business. Like, you know, you want those guys as fresh as possible when it matters most in December and January. And if Jalen Carter's playing, you know, 80% of the snaps in week two

in week three, that might not be in service of that. Like it might be a little bit myopic. We'll see how it plays out. But it's a, it is a tension that we have talked about that is going to be on my radar all season long. And on the topic of Vic Fangio, Nick, or I'm sorry, Howley and Nick were asked about the suggestion that how he made the decisions to hire these coordinators and how he gave an answer that I imagine he rehearsed in recent weeks.

Yes, I think so. Because he started the answer. I was like, did he not hear the question? Yeah. He was ready for this one. And he talked about when the Eagles drafted Quigionne Mitchell, and they were evaluating that. And then Nick Seriani went to college with Jason Kendall,

Toledo's head coach, who was on Anthony's show. And they were able to pick Nick's brain about some insight there. And he was using as an example to show no person makes a decision in isolation, right? All the decisions are... Ball and count none too much. I don't think you're using it correctly, man. But, yeah, so he essentially was saying that, yeah, he's involved. Like, he's bringing people to the table.

No one's just making one single decision without talking to the people around him. I thought it was also interesting because in Howey's case, he's very aware of what he's saying. He very, now he has some lines in the past that he's regretted saying, but he's pretty, like, calculated, I think, in what he says. and he made for the second or third time this offseason the emphasis that in the past they haven't played young players and this year he's really excited for him to play young players right yeah um with nix sitting right with nick sitting right next to him and like nick hears it you know and so it's it's pretty clear that how he wants uh some of these depth spots like play the kids play the guys i drafted right

and howley said he's he's he's biased right because there are players is that he goes drafted. But he said in the past, they haven't had to do this as much. But because they're paying a lot of guys big money, they're going to have to go in this direction. So, yeah, I did find that interesting, that how we wanted to make that point. Julie, do you mind flashing up those super chats real quick?

We've got a couple from Brian Pumper, who says, Jalen Hertz needs to chill with the Zaddy Tank Top on. My wife watches this program, chill out, Jailin. What's Zaddy Tankton? I think this goes to a point that you, You said Zach yesterday, it's very hard for Jalen Hertz to not look cool in a photo. I'm Googling Zaddy tank top. Yeah, Google Zaddy.

Google, figure out what Zaddy means. Julia, do you know? Joey is laughing over there. Go ahead. Google Zaddy. Not the tank top. Zaddy is the descriptor for the tank top. Look up what Zaddy means.

Look up what Zaddy means. Oh, okay. I did not know that. What do you read it? That's okay. Go ahead. Inform the audience. There's no need to do that.

No, what's a zaddy? You're a journalist. You're not report it. According to Google, their dictionary here from the Oxford language, it says a noun, it's an informal noun. It is a sexually attractive man, especially an older one who is fashionable or charismatic. And they use in a sentence, so many people go for Jeffrey. He's a zaddy. Now, I actually don't think that this is.

proper use because, you know, Jalen Hertz, maybe he's, yeah, look, I, that's possible. Did you know this term? Yes. So if, if you knew this term, Bo, why wouldn't you just tell me when I said, what's a zaddy tanked off? Because that's not. Why would you have me look at up here? Because that's so much less entertaining for the audience. I obviously.

Okay. Anyways. It's like a dilf. Excuse me? All right, Phil. Well, next super chat. Chris says he sends Zach a show idea via DM and he responded with thanks for supper. Sorry.

What does that mean? Sorry. I meant, sorry. I was typing that quickly. No, I. Okay. Thanks for sending this along and the supper. And then I put right there support.

Okay. So, Chris, I appreciate that. I mean, Chris, I corrected that right. That is funny, but you did correct it. I corrected it right away. I said, and the support. You ever use the word supper? My grandmother does.

My maternal grandmother does. She says supper. And I don't, but when there's a place called a supper club, it tends to be. I'm like, let's try the supper club, yeah. Okay. And what's the last super chair? That's the same thing. It's Chris repeating his supper.

Oh, I appreciate that, Chris. Thank you. Yeah, there you go. So anything else from Howie and Nick? stuff will interspers, but no hard news, I think we need to get to now. Anything else from the players who spoke after practice, Devante Smith, A.J. Brown, Brandon Graham, Sequin, Barclay, that was interesting to you. Yeah, I spoke to Lane Johnson for a bit.

Oh, did Lane talk? I didn't see that. On the side. Okay. Yeah, Brandon Graham was, you know, he said... The last first day. Last first day, right? He said this defense goes, you know, the future of this defense is, is, is, you know, is 9-0-98, and then he added in 93 as well.

Yes. But he made clear, like Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, that's what this is about here. Chat with Devante Smith. Devante Smith has such a great, like, look, I always want someone to answer a question, okay? But like, DeVante, you know, so he's asked about the relationship between, like, Nick and and Jalen. and his response, and you know Devante, so he's, I don't know what you're talking about. And then it's just like, there's silence. And then there's like the three seconds.

He plays with silence well. Exactly. He's like, I don't know what you're talking about. He's comfortable in the darkness. And then you just just stays there, yeah. But Sequin, let's chat with Sequin because we'll chat about Sequin. We'll interspersed the others. He gave a good answer to your question, like, about kind of the excitement of his first practice.

in Philly. How different is it? Yeah. Logistically. It's so much, like he was asking Brandon Graham where the family section is, right? He's used to one way for six years. How close the fans are there. And there's not a lot of fans because of South Philly restrictions.

But the cool thing about practice at Novacare, I was chatting with someone about this, is how intimate it is, right? Those who are there, they're not watching from a distance. Like some places, there's bleachers set up. And here, you're a little bit more of a fan at, sphere, but yeah, me. Yeah, those who are there are close. They're in it, right?

And they're fine. Counting on too much. That doesn't apply here either. Oh, okay. Yes, okay. I mean, I know you're trying to be funny. It's disrespectful to Kipling. Oh, God.

Well, God forbid. I do anything to offend the great Kipling. Rudd-yard Kipling? Terrific poet. Okay. Are you a fan of that poem? I don't think we need to go all the way down the Rudyard Kipling rabbit hole. Oh, okay.

I don't know enough about that. I know the poem. Okay. Is this, has he been canceled? Just let's just, let's just stay on track. All right. Sorry. For once, I'm going to tell you that we should stay on track.

For once, okay. Yes. So, in any respect, Sequin with all the hard knocks. I know you're trying to be funny, but that's disrespectful to get playing. It's a very funny line. Or the poem.

All right. The hard, he said hard knocks. Like, he appreciated that it was accurate. He said they could have portrayed him a certain way. They did not. He didn't, he said he lived it. So, but it gave fans a chance to see kind of what goes on in free agency.

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A few more superchats we have before we keep on going. I love the super chats today. This is great. The super chats are flowing. James Alexander III. Just throwing it out there. Love it. Thanks for the shout on JA3.

And then Shea says, Zach, do you eat at players' favorite places for free? I don't necessarily know. when I said we were talking yesterday I like knowing the player's favorite places in their home parents you're paying you're a pan customer yeah I'm a paying customer I'm a paying customer I also got a DM correcting or not correcting us adding um to uh so Jeffrey Lori Lori Lori Lori's bio yeah how he added umata to it yeah umana opened in radnor so perhaps um he went to the new amata and like the new amata I think we're going to do some more digging there figure out which one he's talking about

I actually can't find that out if you want me to. I think you should. Yeah, I will find that out. Do it for the audience. Okay. Okay. For the audience, I will find out which Amada he is talking about. Thank you very much.

Because it matters to you. What's Amada with you? What's Amata with Jeffrey? Yeah, that's from Lange. Okay. Let's talk depth chart stuff because, you know what? The proof was in the pudding today. We've done all of this speculating about what it was going to look like,

and we finally got to see today. it may change tomorrow it may change next week but for today a lot of the competitions that you might be worried about before you do that can i just give the injuries right i was going to start okay good all right you start now let's keep in mind the injuries okay cooper de jean which broke last night suffered a hamstring injury uh and now the phrasing here was very interesting from jeremy fowler the report at inspian while he was he was he was caught in an awkward position while training is that what it was that's what I saw in your piece today too I spoke to a source last night

just confirmed the injury occurred I didn't get details about how it occurred but he'll miss a few weeks here what a provocative phrasing caught in an awkward position while training the mind wanders my mind does not wander honestly he's

it's a hamstring injury you know he's training he fell in an awkward position you know you're you're cutting and your legs are in an awkward position He suffered it while training. Why does your mind wander? Because it's...

What does it wonder to if I may ask? Mysterious. What is it wonder too? I don't know. What would be in your mind when you heard mysterious position? I don't know. It could be anything. Well, you said your mind wandered.

Where did it wander to? You can't just... You know, not all who wonder or lost. Like, where did it go? If all men count none too much. Did not use it correctly. Yeah, I mean, it sounds like a weird sex thing. But...

My mind did not wander there. But good for him, if that's the case. Yeah, good for him. He's a young man, you know, newfound money. Who knows what he's doing? All right. So he's out for a couple weeks. Nick Siriani said that, you know,

it's going to be incumbent upon Cooper DeGine to get those mental reps in. Howie said they're still, you know, very, very bullish on him long term. But no doubt that I would imagine like a, you know, a crusty. old defensive coordinator like Vic Fangio is not going to just throw this guy into the starting lineup right away. So he's going to have a bit of an uphill battle to make an impact early in the season, I think. But we'll see how that plays out. Also starting on the NFI list, Shaq Davis and Gottlie by Ed Jay. And Sidney Brown, as we expected, starts on PUP.

And then Landon Dickerson with a lacerated toe and Brett Tooth with a hamstring injury, not practicing today but considered day-to-day because they weren't placed on those lists. Exactly, yes. And just for clarification, because some of the people who covered the team were asking me this, so I imagine some watching from home might be curious as well. So if you're on the NFI or the PUP list going in the camp, it preserves the chance to put you on that list during the regular season or for the regular season. Okay. You won't count as a roster spot. It doesn't count as a roster spot then.

It counts as a roster spot now, but not then. And then you have to miss at least four weeks, okay? but you're allowed to come back after four weeks. So Sydney Brown. Which changed because it used to be six. Mm-hmm. Yes. So Sydney Brown, for instance, Sydney Brown, who hopes be back week one.

I think actually you and I talked about that a few months ago. Yeah, I think the bet was actually September. Okay. So if the Eagles are like, you know, Sydney's close, but we don't think he's ready yet, they can keep him on PUP. Had he not been on that list, he would have had to go on IR, had he been practicing? he would have to go on on on on on on our same thing for and for non-football injury and basically what non-football injury means

is the injury occurred away from the football facility or doing something that had nothing to do with football presumably away from the football facility yes yes my other last injury speculation question lindickerson lacerated toe do you think it happened at his slip and slide party you seem to know quite a bit about slip and slides do you think it occurred in the slip and slide part i just saw on instagram that he had that he had a slip and slide party at his house yeah

Do you think it occurred during the slip and slide party? Honestly, yes. Okay. I do. How else do you think he lacerated his toe? Well, there's many ways to lacerate a toe. But they should change that. There's a lot of ways the skin of cat, they should change that too.

There's many ways to lacerated toe. So the lacerated toe at a slip and slide, would that be from? Countless ways to lacerated toe. Would that be from a rock in the ground or would be sitting up? Well, there's many ways to lacerated toe on a slip and slide. I am asking you. I mean, I am not an expert on slipping slides. I've been on a few slipping slides of my day, but not many slip and slides.

You've slipped. You've slid, but you've not a... I would be a little worrisome about a slip and slide that has an object sharp enough to lacerate your toe. So that's why... It doesn't take that sharp of a thing just to give a little nick on the toe. Where on the slip and slide are you lacerating your toe? I don't know. It could be a sharp piece of plastic, you know?

could be the very bottom of the slip and slide. So I'm saying I would imagine he might have heard it assembling the slip and slide that. Possible? Like when you're actually slipping and slide, I don't want to get on a slip and slide that can lacerate me. Right? I mean, I don't want to either. Slipp and slide. Yeah.

Otherwise, you're slipping and sliding in your own blood, right? Right? Now we're talking. Let's get free of it. So, no, there's many ways you can. Lacerated toe. There's many ways you can lacerated toe. My daughter got a splinter this weekend.

First one? First one that was this deep. Okay. And I... Where? On her foot. She was walking on a boardwalk and it was deep and I couldn't get it out. I mean, it's going to come out eventually, but...

Yeah, no, that we had to get it taken out. But then it was like... Did you go to her? Did you get it down? Yeah, so I said to her, I was like... It's like Sloan. She's brave. I was like, this is really going to hurt.

I'm just warning you. And I took the pliers or not the tweezers. Tweezers, yeah, the tweezers. And I just said, Sloan, I'm warning you, this is going to hurt. And I tried and tried to try to, could not get it. And I just stouted it. And then I had someone else look at it. And the person looked at it was like, yeah, this is really deep.

You're going to need someone else to do this. Yeah. So you didn't let it just come out naturally. I was a proponent. I actually suggested that we did that. What was the bottom of the foot? Yeah. Yeah, that's tough because she's going to be walking on it.

Yeah, and then it could get an infection. Yeah. Yeah. He did the right thing. But I was put my brothers were teasing me because I was like, Sloan, this is really going to her. It was very matter of fact.

And how did she handle that? Like a champ, I suppose. Good for her. Yeah. And we had to take her for the, so I wasn't there for that. Okay. She recounted the whole thing to me.

Anyways, people are here to listen to us to talk about practice. No lady in Dickerson. That meant that the first team offensive line was Jordan Milata. Mackay Beckton in place of Land and Dickerson at left guard, Cam Jurgens, Tyler Steen, Lane Johnson. You said that before practice,

Nick Siriani said, you know, we don't have to make a decision at right guard. That's the good news, but for today it's going to be Tyler Steen. But what was interesting, because a thing that we talked about in the spring, Matt Hennessy took all his reps at right guard. Today, he was the second team center. Second team offensive line was left to right,

Fred Johnson, Trevor Keegan, Matt Hennessy, Darien Kinnard, and then interestingly, Max Sharping at second team right tackle and then followed by on the third team Laikin Vacalahi, Trevor Kagan getting double duty at left guard with a three is Dylan McMahon at center, Jason Poe at right guard and Anim Danqua at right tackle. The big takeaway here to me, Zach, Bechton looks like he really is maybe the top backup at four positions potentially. Getting that spot with Dickerson. We'll see how it plays out with Tyler Steyn at right guard. But interesting that he got that spot and he made

the play of the day. Elaborate. If you're going to practice, the Eagles did a little thing that I have never seen them do before. It was three successive plays, ones on ones, the offense stayed on the field, then the second team defense ran on the field for one play,

then the third team defense ran on the field for one play. And at the end of those three plays, McCoy-Becton ambled over to the sideline, dropped to a knee, and boy, you know, and I've seen some pukes in my day, but he was, it was coming out, you know,

fast, voluminous. It looked like Gatorade. You know, it looked like a, this was not a chunky throw-up. This was a, you know, it was pretty liquid. Okay. Looked like Gatorade or whatever other

type of details we knew here. Substance he was taken. A lot, a lot of puk, for sure. Oh, he's six-foot-eight. Well, that's the thing. That's what I'm thinking. Like, this is a monster of a man.

Yeah, six-seven, three-six. So think about how much bigger his stomach must be than ours. And then to fill that up. And then to unfill that, just think about the volume of that. Yeah. And then went back. Well, yeah, and as he's doing it, Cam Juergens is like, you know, he wasn't quite like holding his hair back.

Like, you know, these were sorority sisters or something like that, but he was spraying him with water to go down a good teammate. And then, very shortly after, just pops right back in for one more play. One last pass set at left guard. And you asked about the water ice with Jordan Davis yesterday, whether that would be a red flag. I do think that this was a red flag because it was one play after the vomit. And Jordan Davis just sort of took it easy on McKayne Beckton on this play. Where's the killer instinct here? I mean, this guy is, you know, he's, this is a standing 10 count.

He's out on his feet. Let's knock this guy over. I mean, if there's anyone who can understand what it takes to unload a heavy stomach or a full stomach that big, Jordan Davis. So there's a degree of empathy and compassion. Yeah, maybe. But, I mean, we do not want our defensive tackles to have empathy. and compassion.

Speak for yourself. Okay. So in Mackay Beckton's case, I do think this is going to end up being a competition, right? I think the fact that he is playing guard right now, the fact that he is working with the first team, there are other players they can put at left guard there. I think they are very curious to see Mackay Beckton in this role.

I don't think this is a matter of getting Mackay Beckton ready as a game day backup. Frankly, I think if that were the case, you'd probably want him focusing on tackle right now. like swing tackle is more important, in my opinion, than seeing him play left guard. I think you're seeing him play guard because you want to see if he can play guard and then he can push Tyler Steen.

I spoke to Lane Johnson after practice. The question you and I spoke about a few times this summer, which was do they want to settle on one guy? And yeah, Lane said he wants consistency at that position, but he understands this is going to be a dog fight. And he said Tyler Steen was, was good today. You can see, you know, he's, he's got more strength. Steen was out there today. But Lane Johnson, I do think, like, A, wants them to settle on someone here, but also recognizes

this is not just, this is not like Cam Durgan's last year, where it's Cam all the way. I think they recognize this is, this is going to be a competition. And they're messaging it that way. Last summer they were saying it's going to be Cam and, you know, he's going to get the stuff. And this year, you know, Siriani, day one is like, yeah, it's going to be Tyler today, but we'll see. He said, I don't need to make that decision now. Right. Yeah, exactly. We will see how that plays out.

Let's work our way through some of the depth chart stuff before the next ad break. And then after that, we'll talk about some of the plays and everything that we saw, some of the highlights. But go ahead. Well, just with the offensive line, a positive sign you think that Hennessy was playing center? I don't know, positive or not. I mean, it's hard because we did only see like three practices in the spring. Informative, though? I think a little bit informative.

Yeah, I think notable that he wasn't just at Red Guard again. On the defensive side of the ball, it was much different. Now, corner and linebacker two different things. But at linebacker, you know, you asked Howard the question about Nacobi Dean. You know, first team period out there is Zach Bonn alongside Devin White. But it rotated throughout practice. With the ones we saw Bonn and White together. We saw Nikobe Dean and Ben Van Sumer in together.

We saw Nikobe Dean and Zach Bond together. We saw Devin White and somebody else together. You know, Jeremiah Trotter even got a junior even got a couple handful. of rep. So this to me is very much like throwing what we have against the wall. Let's let's see what they have. And we'll get to plays later, but it's worth noting that Zach Bond probably had the best play of the day in coverage of the linebackers made a nice play down the seam on a pass intended to C.J. Yu Zama from Kenny Pickett. Yeah. So we'll look at the linebackers just here. I thought it was telling that it was Bond. Right. And I know that.

There was rotation. Even though it was just one period? Yeah, because he got the first shot. Because I think the first shot was suggestive there. And it shows that I think it shows he's, he's the frontrunner there. I remember once asking you chip them.

You think he's the frontrunner? Over Dean? Yeah. I think if, if Dean was the front runner, Dean would have been out there first today. I don't know that. Well,

I just don't know that there is a front runner. I feel like, it's almost Vic Fangio is like, you want this job, Nikobe, go win this job. Yeah, okay, so perhaps frontrunner's not the word.

I don't think this is Nicobo Dean's job right now. Yeah, I agree with that. So here, this is a pedantic argument. I understand the common football, coach, player, executive response when I said,

if you played a game today, they say, well, we don't play a game today. If they played a game today, I think that the group that was out there, first would be the first group.

Yeah, I think you're probably right. And then I think they'd be disappointed and they'd go back to the drawing board. Perhaps so. Most likely. But yeah. Okay. Now, I think contra that, linebacker is like, oh, boy, we got to figure out anything that might work here. I think cornerback is a little bit different.

There is, you know, the quote unquote good problem to have. Instead of trying to figure out who can possibly play, they're trying to figure out, like, I think these guys can play who's, who's our best option. And it started, you know, Darius Slay is obviously the starter on one side, started at practice with Isaiah Rogers. He got the majority of the reps over the course of practice, but Keeley Ringo worked in as well. And he and Rogers flip-flopped with the twos. It was Quineon Mitchell on the outside, but also taking some reps inside at Nickel. I think that is probably the most interesting development to me that it seems like they're dipping their

toe in can Quineon-Mitchell play inside, especially with Cooper de Jean now out for some time. It suggests to me that, you know, maybe at the moment at least, if they had to play tomorrow, Ringo and Rogers are a little bit of a drop off, you know, there's a little bit of a drop off to Quine and Mitchell on the outside. And so they're trying to figure out a way, can this guy still be involved in the defense if he's not going to be a starter on the outside? I think your interpretation of it's spot on.

And I don't know if that's, there's two ways of looking at that. It's temporary. That's where it stands at the moment. I don't know if to read that, like, this is a bad sign about where Quinyan Mitchell is, or it's a good sign about what Isaiah Rogers and Kili Ringo showed. We were at every minicam practice. We were at two OTA practices. We both came away thinking that Rogers looked really good,

and that Ringo, when he was out there, he missed a day, but when he was out there, he looked really good too. So perhaps the Eagles came away from the spring saying, look, these guys are ready. And Quinyan Mitchell, the first round pick, you'll see how he develops, but maybe let's try to find a role for him early on. Or it could be the type of thing where Quigionan Mitchell got there. They're like, well, holy Toledo, right?

Nice. Yeah. You know, Dorothy, we're not in the Mac anymore. So I think that's something to certainly pay attention to. Dorothy, it's the name of my new niece. Congratulations. Thank you very much. Congratulations.

So, so happy for you and your family. Very excited. Yeah. So you and Les will be doing the show tomorrow. I'm going to go, I'm going to go meet this bad boy, bad girl. Thank you. Yeah. That is awesome.

Say hello for Julia and me. Very excited. Yep. Safety. Wait, is my read on that? Do you think that's, uh, no, I think there's any reason to be concerned or, I should say concern. No, I do not think it is a concern at all.

I think it is more, I think the fact that they're putting him inside is more like, We like this guy. We want to get him on the field. But right now there's not a spot for him. Gotcha. Ahead of Keely Ringo and Isaiah Rogers. Because there have been examples in the past, and you've spoken to scouts about this too, where a guy comes in and they see them on the field for the first time.

And they're like, what were we talking about in the draft room? Right? Like, what's? I don't think that's the case with Quinnian Mitchell. Okay. Now, today, he gave up a couple completions, but both of them were like extremely tight coverage. One of them was a really nice throw from Kenny Pickett. across the middle to Grand Calcuttaire, very tight window.

We'll get to Pickett later. And the other one was also from Pickett to Britton Covey, like it was like a five-yard stop. And Quinnia Mitchell was playing back and closed really quickly. And it looked like, you know, it was a really nice play, but it was a short, tight completion. So anyway, safety, C.J. Gardner Johnson and Reed Blankenship. But I think one of the more interesting things of the day,

James Bradbury, second team safety, you know, did not, was not with the cornerbacks. in individual groups was just with the safeties. This is a guy who right now is a safety only and he's practicing, he's playing. So what do you make of that? Imagine humbling for James.

Right? Being a second team safety being out there with Tristan McCollum. This is a guy who signed a 36 million dollar contract or so was a second team all pro. Yeah, this is, we've spoken about this. I shouldn't keep saying we've spoken about this, but

it's such a fascinating thing because there's no or very little financial incentive to move out like his his option was guaranteed okay so they already paid that you know that option was was was guaranteed so really you're looking at an opportunity cost now um there could be some cap relief if they were to trade him uh but some cash really if more than that right i know i think that's more cap isn't it yeah it could be wrong um maybe so but um yeah so it's if he's on, it might be a little cash and cap. But certainly, like, right now. It's minor, whatever it is. But if they cut him, there's no relief. Right. Yeah. So, point being, like, they have a decision to make here.

Do you carry him because you're paying him? Because this is someone who has demonstrated ability in the past. Because, like, from all indications, our encounters with him, but also what we hear, he's a respected guy. like he's he's not someone who ruffles feathers behind the scenes. Is he someone you just keep as insurance? Or do you say how he, like he mentioned before practice, they made a lot of additions in the secondary. This is a, there's a lot of new faces.

The opportunity costs is not enough. You suck it up. It's a sunk cost. You paid it. Let's just go with it. I think it's very interesting. And I'm, you know, I would love to talk to James Bradbury about, what this summer has been like for him

because I'm curious if he like has he gone about having to change his body at all in order to play a new position like has he tried to bulk up a little bit because that would suggest to me that this is a thing that might be real because I think in theory if a team is going to trade for him

they're probably going to do it at corner even though he was bad last year it's a little bit more theoretical to expect that this guy's you're going to trade for a guy at a new position you've never seen him play before and you talked about this is a guy

who's considered a very good guy in the locker room. We have seen that he's one of the smarter players on defense. So from the seeing the game standpoint, safety seems like a fit.

From a roster standpoint, Sidney Jones is starting on PUP. Maybe. Well, he's starting camp on PUP. If he makes it to the season on PUP, if Avante Maddox is the top backup at safety, but there's a guy who you can't necessarily count on

staying healthy, there really is a need for some reliability or at least some playable depth at safety and if James Bradbury can do it and you're paying him anyway, I don't think that that's the worst thing in the world if he's willing to, you know,

take that medicine. I don't think that that's crazy and it's probably, you know, I still think it's more likely than not. He's not going to be on the team, but it's more likely than I thought it was a month ago. Agree with all those points. The one thing I would add, though,

hasn't been a very good tackler. and is that true? I think he's a pretty I think he's a pretty reliable tackler. Okay. I mean, I, there were a few mistackles that come to my mind. I feel like the mistackles to me were like he's slow.

Okay. You know what I mean? I don't think he's contact averse. Oh, that's true. Yeah, I don't think he's contact diverse either. Okay. I don't know. Okay.

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And, you know, we don't want to make too much of it. New offense, all those things. But it was, you know, our eyes told us that those three practices were not super great. Today, I thought Gillen Hertz looked really good. I agree with you. I was about to say that. That was my takeaway from the third. Yeah. First throw of the day was like a dime to Devante Smith. He sort of sidestepped the pressure in the pocket with his eyes down field, made a beautiful throw to Devonthe. He actually dropped the ball, but I don't think anybody's worried about, you know, Devante Smith's hands. Later in practice, also moving a little bit left in the pocket, lofted a beautiful pass to Dallas Goddard, down the left sideline. Goddard then beat C.J. Garnett Johnson to the pylon. So it was a long touchdown throw. He was on the same page with A.J. Brown a couple of

times on a couple of nice completions hit Paris Campbell a couple times as well even through to Saquan Barkley in the flat a few times within rhythm of the offense there were still a couple times over the course of practice where the ball did not come out on time and maybe there were a couple coverage sacks but in terms of ball placement in terms of mostly getting the ball out on time I thought chilling hurts looked very good today yeah I'm glad you said that because that was my big takeaway take that was my big takeaway today as well uh the ball barely touched the ground um he i i didn't think there was many times where he was holding onto the ball i think he was making quick decisions there wasn't as much downfield but like you mentioned that past the gotter i thought it was good

ball placement put it in the right spot got her you know caught he didn't have to make an adjustment on it caught it that's a touchdown right there um i i thought jalen showed good command there were there were times when he moved and he moved well, I thought, you know, when he ran. Yeah, this was a good day for jail. And if you were concerned about the spring practices, I know this was one practice, but I would say I put more weight into how he looked today than how he looked in the spring. And I was impressed. Yeah, and again, it's one practice.

We'll see if he keeps it up, but it was a good start. Now, again, this is the acclamation process period, as Nick Siriani said. So they were not in pads today. They were in shorts and shells, and that's fine, but he did look good. The other quarterbacks, Kenny Pickett made the best throw of the day on sort of a dime across the middle, the one we talked about with Quinnion-Mitchell to Grand Calcutera. But I actually thought the rest of the day he did not look good. Floated a couple balls.

Ball was not coming out on time. And I got to tell you, Tanner McKee, the ball was coming out on time to a wide open guys. Tanner McKee looked way better than Kenny Pickett in my eyes today, just one. practice, but Pickett did make one nice throw. Not having that discussion yet, but. I'm just saying. Keep following it. How about Sequin Barkley?

What were your impressions of Sequan today? I didn't come away with big, you know, he did catch the ball. But again, we said yesterday that I fell for Swift last year. I fell for all the times that Nixiriani said, Nihim Hines and all that. Like, I need to see it in games. But yeah, Sequin is smooth catching the ball. We know that. I thought it was more important that these were not screens to Sequin.

It was designed. Wheel routes to Sequin. These were Jalen Hertz sitting in the pocket and just looking to his right and throwing out to the flat because that's a question that we have about Jalen Hertz. So he's willing to do that I thought was notable. And it's also worth noting, you know, this is day one at training camp. You talk about like the things that you install on day one. There were a couple called quarterback runs for Jalen Hertz today,

including one that really popped, which was like a fake pitch to Saquan Berkeley. The middle of the field opens up, and that would have been a nice long run for Jalen Hertz. As we worry or wonder about his level of involvement as a runner this season in the offense, I think it interesting that on day one that they had it in the offense. If you talk about day one, please, those Paris Campbell enter rounds, get ready for those. Can you believe it? We got to see this again on day on the guy. The guy averages like fewer yards per touch than almost anybody in the league.

But honestly, this, look, I know you shouldn't come on here and just play the hits. We're trying to give you like the type of insight that you can't get anywhere else, that like real nuanced football opinions. But, you know, breaking news, news flash coming, A.J. Brown is so good, right? You like, you watch A.J. Everything is so smooth. Everything's so effortless. He's, he catches everything. He's, it's just, I made this point. over the years, over the past three years so many times,

and I'll keep saying it. It is crazy to think that this guy is like on the Eagles for the next X amount of years because there are a few people in the world like him. And when I was watching practice today, there were a few times in my notes where I was like, AJ, AJ, AJ, because he's just, he's so good. Did you have that takeaway from today's practice?

Not from taste, but that's correct. I mean, there's no doubt about it. Maybe it comes a little, maybe I don't take it a little bit more for granted, but you're right. He is very good. What was your position preference today? Like where you watched practice? My physical position on the sideline? Yeah, were you behind the ball, in front of the ball?

No, no, I always like to be deep in the defensive backfield. I want the action coming towards me. Gotcha. Okay. I thought that depth chart, down the depth chart on offense, both McCallin Castles and E.J. Jenkins had some nice plays at Tide End, mostly thanks to Tanner McKee finding them when they were wide open. But a little pop there.

Defense a little bit more interesting. We talked about the Bonn. Now they opened up in a, you know, an odd front with those three defensive tackles. Josh Sweat and Bryce up on the field together. When they went to Nicol, it was Avanti Maddox and Sweat came off. You know, they're not, they're no pad zone. So these guys are not rushing a ton. I thought it was interesting.

I'll tell you what, like body type wise. And this is one where I was a little bit disappointed. I had a conversation with the great friend Duffy. And he mentioned, and he mentioned something. And I was like, two guys talking ball, no ball. Because on the one hand, he saw the same thing I did. And so that was nice to hear. On the other hand, I wanted this to be like my insight.

No pads yet. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. J-Lex Hunt has him. juice. Oh, okay. I like where you going here. I think Jaylux Hunt has some juice.

Yeah. So a little small J.OX Hunt's detail. He walked out onto the practice, you know, he went inside, changed, walked out to the practice field about, I would say, 40 minutes later, just by himself,

takes the camera. He's snapping shots. Like, he's soaking it all in. This is a guy who was at the Cornell locker room, right? Yeah. He was doing his own laundry, basically, right? This is a guy who was at Houston Christian.

On the draft shows, they were saying that the tape there is all grainy, right? Here he is. He's in the NFL. He's capturing the moment. I really respected that. I like that. I appreciate that about Joexon. Yeah.

There we go. So you're analyzing as a football player. I'm giving a little bit of the human being color to it. There you go. If all men count none too much. Still not used correctly. But I definitely don't want to defend Kipling anymore because I imagine I'm going to Google this afterwards. I'm like, oh, boy, all right.

Too late. You're already Mr. Kipling. Anything else? What else popped out to you from the action on the field, Zach? So from the during the practice session, I would say that I didn't see as much from Bryce Huff as I was kind of looking for there. Yeah, I mean, I thought Slay looked deep like it. I didn't think Slay lost the step and still he's still moving well. We'll kind of see more downfield plays.

I did notice, you know, when I was watching individuals before, I was watching the quarterbacks and the running backs was trying to get that shot for the audience of Sequin and Jalen, right? But they were literally practicing the end around, you know, from the slot spot. They had Britton Covey and Paris Campbell and they were coming around. Paris Campbell was, he moved. to the outside in 12 personnel. Yes. And in 11.

Worth pointing out that like Goddard moved around the formation. There were snaps when they were in 11 and Paris Canva was on the outside and A.J. Brown was on the inside. You know, it's day one stuff. We'll see if that maintains over the course of the season. But in an offense, for an offense that had got static throughout the season last season, nice to see them just shuffling the pieces a little bit. And the pre-snap motion, like they're not hiding that. They're doing it that's there.

Yeah, I still don't know how much usage they're, like, effectiveness they're getting out of it, the way that we see it right now. I would imagine that it's going to be a little bit more complicated once the season begins. It's something Lane Johnson mentioned that, you know, is there and really working on the cadence right now. It's something that he's trying to get a hang of with this. No, they had a situation where they pulled in the one play for the second team offense against the second team defense, fourth and five, fourth and five. and all they did was try to draw the defense off sides.

That was it. That's important. That's part of the Calamore Playbook. After practice, I didn't spot this, but the offensive linemen were like running sprints, and it's not something that they typically did. Lane said he's never really done that. This was Cam Juergens and Jordan Milata's idea after practice.

Yeah, I feel like there is a little bit more spoken emphasis on how much, like, we need to be in really good shape. Yes, Lane that I had heard from the team more than any time since the Chip Kelly era, I feel like. That's good point. Lane that kept coming up from Lane, number one. Number two, he was, so yeah, you heard that. I did ask Callie Roseman about the change in training, you know, in performance staff, I should say. And he kind of gave the suggestion there that like they felt a change was needed.

Was that how you interpreted the answer? Yes. Yes. Yes. I think so. That they felt a change was needed there. Lane said it, and this is year 12 for Lane, Lane said that he's, you know, there are fewer off days this year. Like that's one way practice is different, but he made repeated mentions how the importance is getting in shape and everyone kind of needs to be in shape. So something to pay attention to. Just going through the rest of my notes here to see if anything else was super interesting. I mean, I think that's about it.

you know, Rick's and Job guys down the depth chart, sorry, at corner, but working on the outside, Tyler Hall rotated in on occasion with the ones as the nickel. But in terms of big players or anything like that, that was pretty much it, I think. I just want to circle back to a depth chart note you had, because I did ask you yesterday about Max Sharping. Yes. Is he on your radar a little more right now because of where he was in the depth chart? Or do you think it was just they were missing two guards, or I'm sorry, they were missing a starting guard, you're shuffling things around.

I think it's probably more shuffling around and make sure that you guys are subscribing to P HLY on YouTube and make sure that you are becoming a diehard if you want to read the physical or the written version of the practice notes, all that good stuff and more to come today from Zach

on Jalen Hertz and Nick Siriani. But yeah, for sharping, I would say, let's wait and see how things go here because that's probably Mackay Beckton's position if Landa Dickerson's healthy. so at least it has not moved the needle

from me on Mac Sharping. I'm sorry, two days in a row I'm rebuffing you on your boy, but He's not my boy, it's just No, there's a, there's a little Mac Sharping buzz in the football world right now. Okay.

Something to store away. Who was the other buzz guy we were talking about? Ben Van Zumrin, the palpable buzz? It wasn't there another one? And the palpable buzz for Ben Van Zummerin. I thought there was one other one. Oh, no, it was, It was McCallon Castle's.

Oh, yeah. That was. And he, you know, that, that buzz grew today. I bought the stock yesterday, and I think it grew it a little bit today. It went from 20 cents to 35. Okay. Big debut for MC. A penny stock guy?

Should I sell? Yeah. Yeah, take your profit now. I don't know. This one could be going to the moon. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. At the castle, at least.

Unless it's an agricultural. I'm still not going to take a big loss here. Unless it's an agricultural for management stock and you're investing. in that. Wow. You're burying this guy. I'm not burying him. Will Greer got to throw a couple of passes today.

Yeah, number 13. I took a picture of it. Big beard on Will Greer. Will Greer? It's popular on Vine. No, because I was, you know, I was going to do one of those artistic Instagram posts where it's like year 13 covering the Eagles and you take a picture of number 13.

It probably pops a little more with Lominee's like, hey. than it does with... I think it's kind of funny that way. But it's better if it's, you know, incredibly pixelated, like you're the side picks. Well, it's a little closer here. So, yeah, circle back to Joan Hertz here. It was interesting in his answer.

He said that it was important he felt to work out with some of the death receivers last year or in the offseason. And Johnny Wilson and Anaya Smith, who he said he played with Anaya Smith's brother. And John Ross was one of them, Will Shipley. Is it John Ross or Ross John?

It is John Ross. But I bring this up because this was an interesting admission from Jayland. He said that so in the Tampa Bay game last year, he did not have AJ there. He didn't have some of the guys that he regularly throws to. And he said he didn't have the connection that he wanted with OZ and with Julio Jones. And he thought it was really important in the offseason that they were together getting that. So I guess last year, him and OZ didn't throw during the offseason, him and Hoyo didn't have enough of chemistry. And that's why he never came.

That's why he thought it was important. Yeah, that's too bad. Yeah, for the record, Annius Smith and Johnny Wilson didn't really do much of anything today, but a long way to go for this guys. Long way to go for that. I also, I find it, I'm not surprised by this, okay, but Nick Siriani, who, for, you. for four years now, really likes this competitive advantage thing. I think he's going overboard with the competitive advantage on the kickoffs.

All right. He said when I asked him about it in the summer, I'm sorry, in the spring that he's not going to show much this summer. Okay. He kind of said the same thing today. Correct me wrong. They're in the special team spirit today.

They didn't practice the kickoffs. Correct. I think they're so interested in keeping this concealed what their strategy is. They're going to practice it. They're going to practice it. I really think Nick, Like, Nick's made repeated references to not showing what they're going to do. Well, listen, the guy doesn't have anything to do on offense.

So, of course, he's in the lab designing up some cool kickoff returns. I just think at some point. What else is he going to do? He's not allowed in the quarterback room. Well, so that's not true. But in my, you know, I had a training camp primer today, which I still think is relevant. And we've had one practice, but I went through the schedule. and how the schedule is different than it is in years past,

the specific off days and how many practices they have leading into the first preseason game and how that compares to the past. You can check that out. But I also had some of the storylines to watch. And one of them was the kickoff return because I thought this is new. Maybe you would practice it a little more. I know it was only one day, but I thought, I mean, they're out there with punts. Like, let's see kickoffs.

And I just did muff another punt, by the way, today, which he did a lot in the spring. Yes, exactly. At some point, you got to think is this, this you have a problem here. But we'll see. Yeah. Okay. I'm sorry you were disappointed about the kickoff. Yeah, I want to see the kickoffs.

I'm really fascinated by, I want to know the strategy for it. I've tried explaining to my son on multiple occasions what the kickoff's going to look like. I still don't know. I mean, I watched the Sean Zayed thing. It was very good. Yeah. I mean, I've read a lot about it. I can explain to you what it's going to look like.

But I want to see it in action. And I, at some point, I mean, there's so many possibilities. There are so many ways to lacerate a toe. Well, yeah, they're quite literally as many ways to lacerated toe. Yes. Apparently you think slip and slides have jagged edges all over the place, lacerating your toes. Yeah.

Have you were lacerated toe on a slip and slide? Have you lacerated anything on a slip and slide? Not that I can think of, but I mean, we're talking about a day-to-day injury. This is not like his toe got spliced off. This is just a little nick. It's enough to mispractice. You're not, and this isn't like a paper cut. The first day of practice.

This isn't a paper cut. This is, I mean, I mean, it's a laceration. Like, this is. It's a cut. This is a little more than a cut, I imagine. Laceration is a cut. No, I'm aware of the definition or of what a laceration is. I'm just saying, in order for Landad Dickerson to miss practice with a lacerated toe,

I imagine this is a painful laceration. Yeah, but if they was expected to miss like four days of practice, then they would have put them on NFI. I mean, if he was at, if he was in the, if, if he was in the, dead sea, he'd be screaming in pain, okay, with this laceration. You don't know that. You don't know how tough my man is. L.D.

He all stands for laceration. And the D? You know, that's Asante Samuel. He's the one of his lacerated groin. We will be back tomorrow, everybody. We'll be back tomorrow. All right. That'll do it for this episode of the P.H.O.Y.

Eagles podcast, the first day of training camp in the book. Much more to come on all p hly.com. So make sure that you are subscribing. You're a diehard. We're back tomorrow at 2 o'clock. Les Bowen stepping in for me. So I can take a little family time. But back on Friday with Zach,

Eagles practice tomorrow in the morning. No practice Friday, but we will still have plenty to talk about, I'm sure. And boy, we are just, we are strapping in. The season has officially begun. We've got a lot to talk about. Excited to see how everything plays out

over the course of the next week, the next month, the next several months. all the way down the line. We will be here with you the whole step of the way. Congratulations to the Wolf family. Thank you very much. I'm thrilled to hear. I'm helping everyone's healthy and yeah enjoy enjoy the celebration tomorrow. Thank you very much and watch where you step. I don't want you hurting your toes. I'm not doing any slipping slides tonight. I'm going to be right in the, we write in my story.

I'm going to be watching the finale of presumed innocent and I'm going to be creating papers. How excited about presumed innocent? all very because I have theories I got theories man and I was telling my grandfather last night some of my theories oh he's watching oh yeah big time big time on my account oh I shouldn't say that I don't want in case Tim Cook's watching I don't want Tim Cook thinking um passing out the password yeah you don't want anybody thinking what was the thing that you were worried about uh the day what that you know who is the bad person oh wady bulger yeah yeah yeah yeah always you He's sharing his Apple TV Plus account, but rest assured he has no connection to Whitey Bulger.

All right. That'll do it for this episode. Thanks to everybody for watching. We'll talk to you tomorrow. And as always, we love you.