PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - PHLY Eagles Podcast | Tell it to me straight: Are Jalen Hurts & the Philadelphia Eagles ready for a rebound in 2024?

Episode Date: August 20, 2024

Let’s take a step back from the daily grind of training camp and assess the Eagles big-picture for those who are just now beginning to check back in. What are the important questions facing the team and how well prepared are they to bounce back from a dire ending to the 2023 season? Does Jalen Hurts really look like a different quarterback? Can Jalen Carter dominate? What does Nick Sirianni do?Rich Hofmann and Bo Wulf take the reins, with an update on Mekhi Becton and your chance to vote on the Ospreys. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello, everybody, and welcome to the PHLY Eagles podcast presented by Bet365. Download the Bet365 app and use code PHLY365 when you sign up and find out why it is never ordinary at Bet365. And it's never ordinary on the pHLY Eagle Show when we've got handsome rich in the studio. Zach Berman out on assignment, he wants to keep that very mysterious. He wants everybody to be guessing what he's doing where he is. he also wants you to know he would never just skip an episode for no reason. So rest assured he is working hard. We won't talk about where he is.

How are you doing, handsome rich? Do you think, oh, I'm doing great. Do you think he's workshopping headlines in this mysterious place? Berman, absent. That's a good idea. Look, I... Now you come from a newspaper family. I do.

A, you know, a tabloid. Yes. First of all, did you take offense that Zach went to... the New York paper as opposed to the Philadelphia Daily News as his point of reference and two, growing up in that family, did you feel like you were workshopping headlines often?

Yes, I was offended. Come on, come on. Yeah, what are we doing? Absolutely. The guy's supposed to be a local guy above all else. The People paper, I mean, ZB, I don't know if he actually said this, but he was probably reading the daily news in the cafeteria along with Bill Simmons

and 8,000 other things. I'll never hit his nose up high, reading the Inquirer instead. Yes. So that's number one. Number two, I will say the art of headline writing, it's tougher than you think. I will. Now, look, is Zach maybe a fifth percentile headline writer, a third percentile headline writer? Probably yes.

But I do think it is a learned skill. And I do remember, like the guy, I believe his name is Doug Derrick, who did all of the Daily News back pages and front pages. and front pages. Like that guy, it was basically his job, I think, for a long time. Yeah. And he, you know, he would go to the head editors and he would like spit out like 10 good suggestions and they would get to pick from them.

But basically they just had him on ice ready to go. I love that. So they knew, you know, we're not going to screw it up. He's like walking around town and just like shouting out different exclamations for things that he sees on the street. Yeah. One of my favorite ones, Beau, this was, I think the Flyers played a really crappy game

on Cinco de Mayo and he came up with Stinko de Flyo. Stinko de Flyo, yes. Yeah, that was a really good one. But anyway, that's the type of stuff you were getting every day. It wasn't like, you know, Berman on assignment. Bo Rich podcast. Yes. Tuesday.

Here's my headline story. My wife and I, we first met in an editing class in college. and there was one night. It was like it was one of those meets once a week. It's like a two and a half hour class. And one of the things was we were doing headlines. And the story was about the Mattel company discontinuing the Ken doll. And it was like go around the room, you know, come up with a headline for this.

And everything was very dry. It was like, you know, it was like the Berman style. It was a Mattel discontinuing Ken, all this stuff. And then mine was. Barbie tells Ken it's not you, it's me. Killed the room. And that's the moment, as we like to tell the story that I, that I, you know, won Rachel over. Oh, that's unbelievable.

So it's a headline. It's a headline that got me, got me in. That's amazing. How long did you have to think of that headline? Oh, on the spot. Maybe five minutes, less than that, yeah. Wow. Unbelievable.

That's, I don't have anything more to add to that. That's, I would not have come up. So listen, for all the aspiring romantics out there, work on your headlines. Yeah, why not? All right. Did you like those night classes, by the way, those once a weekers? I did.

I did, yeah. People complained about those, but, you know, like, they gave you a nice break in the middle of it. Yeah, I wouldn't want it for a morning, or like a middle of the day. No, night class. Yeah, give me a night class, you know, and knock it off for once a week. I think that's a good deal. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

All right. The conceit of the show today, everybody, is, let's, Let's take a little bit of a step back from everything that's going on every day. Who's at right guard? Who's the second team linebacker today? All that stuff. Although later in the show, I can give you the updates from today's practice, which was interesting, but not super interesting. I want to take a little bit of a 10,000-foot view for the, I think casuals is too hard of a word,

but the people who are maybe just beginning to check in and maybe you don't have the time to find out what's going on in practice every day. What do you really need to know? And so you are our proxy for that, Rich. You have come up with some questions about the team. And let's unpack them and see where this team stands. What are the things that people really need to know? Yeah, Bo, I consider myself a sicko, but I will say, like, I just don't have the ability to watch these guys every day. Frankly, I'm not sure I wouldn't know what I was watching anyway.

I think it does take a ZB or Bo kind of trained eye, somebody who's been there. A student observer of practice as well as described. Yeah, and honestly, when I would go to those practices, because this man, today would have been a beautiful day for a practice, just low humidity. I was just trying to not sweat, you know, I was going into the shit. So, so even if I was there, to be, to be honest, I wasn't really, I didn't have my, my eyes trained on one-on-ones like you or, you know, secondary like Zach. So again, I've been reading, I've been listening, but you've been watching.

And I think that's more valuable. So let's start. I have a question for pretty much every unit of the team. Okay. first one let's let's start with the big one um everything i read says that jalen hurts looks pretty good uh pretty much pretty consistent every day obviously the the no interceptions is there's been much made about that and i guess my question is like as somebody who's watched a lot of training camps as somebody who's watched jalen hertz in a few training camps by now like how much can we read

into the idea that he's been sharp in training camp i think this is a good question uh it's obviously probably the most important question of the season, right? What is Jalen Hurts really going to look like? I think that the degree to which people are talking about, oh, Jalen has been amazing, like no interceptions, is a little bit overstated. I think Jailen has been very good. I don't think he's been as good as he was in 2022 that training camp

when, you know, the introduction of A.J. Brown to the offense was this, like, unbelievable thing. And still, every single day, if Jailen Hertz, wants to throw the ball to AJ Brown, he can do that pretty easily, right? There was a fun play today that was, it was a situational thing, and it was the Eagles are out of timeouts on offense. The defense is down by three points, right? I think it's like third and five on their own 25, something like that. And it's one of those plays where like if it's a real game, you get the first down, the game is over. Like you get the two minute warning, you get the

kneel on and it's over. And if not, all of a sudden the other team's got a chance. And third and five, I'm expecting like here comes a QB draw like well let's let's do something safe to keep the keep the clock running or here comes a quick pass to say Juan Barclay something or you know a quick pass to Devante Smith and instead which I liked it was a little bit like that Seattle game took a shot deep to a.J. Brown dropped it in a bucket very tight coverage from quinion and mitchell and AJ hauls it in that's the end of the game like a nice throw from jaylon he still got those downfield passes and that's the thing of like oh the no interceptions well how do you balance that versus he being appropriately greedy downfield.

Yeah, absolutely. And I think for the most part he has been, but I think the thing that stops me from, as I said, on Anthony show this morning, getting the popsicles out for Jalen for the summer, is the last week especially, it has seemed like the timing has not quite been there. The ball is not always coming out on time.

Now, some of that is because the offensive line has had some injuries. And if you've got Fred Johnson and Brett Tooth at right goal, that's a little bit different than having Lane Johnson and Mackay Beckton. And the defensive line deserves credit for that too. But I think early on what was so impressive was that the ball was always coming out on time. And even if it was a checkdown to Sequin, it was coming out in rhythm. It was one, two, here comes, the ball comes out. And there's been a little bit more holding of the ball lately.

And so a lot of this is just what is the offense going to look like? How different is it going to be? And in terms of handling the blitz, the thing that killed them down the stretch last season, I have not seen enough right now to think that they have solved that. So there's still very much wait and see for me from the Gelen Hertz perspective. I would say the two things that I would want to see the most is, yeah, they handle the blitz well. And honestly, he's throwing the ball over the middle more. And, you know, I actually remember ZB saying, I think it was after the New England joint practice

that he thought it was the most Kellyn Mooreish practice of the, of the off season. I guess like are you seeing any difference in how they are they are operating or if not, is there a degree of just like Nick Seriani just doesn't want to show anything until the first week. He got used the first week too much. You know, so I guess like are you seeing any sort of newness both with Hertz and the entire offense?

I mean, certainly the motion is a difference. You know, they were last in the league in motion last year. We've seen a lot of motion. Some of it seems, and Kellen Moore talked about this today, sometimes. it's just eye candy it's just a distraction sometimes it's to give you a tell sometimes it's actually creating an advantageous matchup for you i think some of it seems like it has just been i candy but that's fine um so that's new there's been a little bit more under center which is welcome i guess i think if like what are the things that really matter what really matters i would say one thing is

that he does look healthier than he was last season and they have been uh willing to call like quarterback runs, right? And if the offense is going to be a top five offense, an offense that carries this team deep into the playoffs, I think it needs to be inclusive of that because that's what, you know, that's what makes the offense special. And so as long as dealing is healthy, I think they're showing a willingness to do that. So I think, I do think that that matters. Okay. You do think he looks faster than last year? Then last year, yes. Yeah. Well, that's good. That's really important because I, it just felt like he was a step slow, whatever injury he was dealing with. And that, you know, whatever,

that percentage was it did feel like that that was meaningful and then today i will say uh and again i don't want to get bogged down into the the details of a single day but uh there were a couple plays today you talked about throwing over the middle where in rhythm he's throwing to grand calcutera or even c juzama and that to me is one of the big questions about jayl and taking the next step is is he just going to be willing to throw the ball to guys who are not of you know devonte smith and a jrown and dallas goddard and i think that would just change the shape of the offense so much. Makes sense. All right.

Question number two. Okay. I thought heading in, this was going to be the summer of Sequin. I thought there was going to be a love fest every day. Oh, man, look at this new toy that Jalen has to throw the ball do. And I guess at least reading the coverage, it has not felt exactly that way. You know, sure, there have been a couple wheel routes he scored touchdowns on. But honestly, the day where both, I think,

on the podcast and in reading, you know, a lot of the practice reports that he sort of flashed was in blitz pickup against, against Devin White. And I think you and, you know, a few other of the beats were basically like, no, he was, he was really awesome at that. Like, that was impressive considering Devin White what a good blitzery is. So I guess, like, you know, and I understand he's probably been on a pitch count at different points too. Is this just an element of like, hey, in these practices?

when they're not tackling for the most part. Like he can't really show what he can do or is there something else there? Now, this is one where I think Zach might disagree. Yeah. That's why I asked you. I would say, I would say I have been a little bit underwhelmed, just a little bit, by like the juice. Yeah. And you're right.

Like I was expecting there to be much more of a summer of Sequin type five. the the the the the the pass blocking stuff is great that's you know he is awesome at that there's no doubt about that um it is it is hard because they're not tackling um and because especially if it's an inside run you know in real life it's awesome if it if he turns a three yard run into an eight yard run but you have no way of telling that in in this um and there have been a couple plays where i have seen like the spark there have been a couple ones where uh and one of the plays you've seen a lot this summer is like the uh jaylin her hurts it's like the reed there's a pulling guy that it looks like he's going to take it

and then he hands it off to say one he's going the other way and there's a different puller out in front and he hits the corner and looks explosive there have been a couple of those and him as a receiver I am generally a little skeptical that it's going to be as big of an impact as the Eagles would tell you that it's going to be just because I need to see Jaylon do that and I think that that is often overstated like they're you know it's much easier said than done to have like a Christian McCaffrey level impact as a running back as a receiver. But like there was the, you know, there was the wheel route touchdown against the Patriots. And there have been, I actually, I was thinking about this today. There have not been a ton of,

like, running back screens. It has been much more just Sequin out of the backfield in sort of a swing pass type situation or a checkdown or just one of those little, you know, arrow routes over the middle. And I think, I think that will be a big part of his role. But I have not seen like, LaShawn McCoy making people miss, you know, in space, or him just, like, beating guys to the edge all that often. So, you know, these are not live. I hope that when the pads are on, he looks a little bit different. But I think part of the appeal of Sequin is more the volume you can give him as opposed to, like, the play-by-play supercharged splash. well but but that was part of the reason he was so great earlier in his career was the splash plays right and now and now if we're being sold like okay what he's going to actually do is turn a five yard run in a nine or ten yard run which is I don't think yeah I don't know if they would sell it that way but yeah but well we'll see yeah that's what it is I think the bigger like because they're not live it is it is hard to tell I don't want to be unfair but I have not I have not been like blown away at the athleticism that's that's fair and that's true like I remember watching

some of those LaShawn McCoy praxis. I mean, obviously the Sean Jackson's a receiver and that's different. But like, you know, obviously when you're not tackling, you can only do so much. Sometimes those guys would just run away from people, though. And, you know, honestly, like the few fans that are on the sidelines with like, ooh and ah, they could even see like, that was different.

He's moving at a different pace or he's jukeing at a different pace, whatever it is. So haven't seen too many of those. I think those moments have been few and far between. Yeah. Okay. Well, hopefully they happen. In Brazil? Fair enough.

When you give me one more and then we'll get to our first? Okay, yeah, because this is a two-parter. For wide receivers. So do you think third receiver is the biggest weak spot on the team? And I guess I will frame it this way. Obviously, if you got Fred Warner at linebacker, that would make a huge difference. But I'm putting it this way. If the Eagles could get a league average starter at any position, you know, the 14th to 19th best player at that specific position,

Which position makes the biggest difference and how high does wide receiver 3 rank there? I think it's a real concern. I think if I'm playing the game of you can guarantee league average play, I think I might still take corner. Just because it's such an unknown with what they have right now. Like Darius Lay at 33 years old, Quinean Mitchell as a rookie, Keeley Ringo is a second year player, Isaiah Rogers has something of an unknown. Those guys have had a very good summer.

but I think you would lock in league average play on the outside if you could take it. And then I think right guard would be in the conversation as well. You know, you would think that if you are league average or above at four of the other five spots, that should fortify you well enough.

But I think if you could lock it in, you would consider that. But if you could lock in like the 20th best in the league at any position, it might be wide receiver three. Like if they could just get some competency, there. I think that would go a long way. And I do think it's a real concern in the offense, not just because what if something happens to Devante Smith and AJ Brown, because that's a

real concern. Those guys have been pretty lucky injury-wise so far. And if one of them goes down, especially AJ Brown, like what does the offense look like? But like, it's just bizarre to me from an organization that we know knows that offense matters most. And the offense, like the whole structure of the team right now is let's make the defense league average. Let's let them just tread water and let the offense take over that they haven't done anything here. And there's still time, you know, maybe Howie pulls his C.J. Garner Johnson move here. Or maybe it's something a little bit lower level. But right now, if they go into week one with some kind of Paris Campbell, Johnny Wilson, Britain Covey rotation, it's not going to kill them. But it changes.

the ceiling of the offense so much. And like, you know, they went to the Super Bowl with Quis Watkins, right? You can make, you can, you can tell me that argument. That's fine. He was just providing a service as taking the top off the defense. They don't even have that guy right now. Like Johnny Wilson can block great. Britt and Covey, I think, can make some stuff happen as a slot receiver.

But from a like searching for upside standpoint, like, don't you want that guy who's going to be on the field, 75%? of the time to give you a little bit more yeah I think I think they are really missing something you scared me with that Patriots take a few weeks ago that it's it's a j and Devante up here and it's like six guys and then it's six guys before you get to the next eagle that's that's a little bit scary and I mean again like this is part of I think jlin's but like you already mentioned this his growth is like are you willing to throw to the guy who is not a.J. Brown or Devante Smith if the guy is wide

freaking open yeah and can make a play so I don't know is it a concern to you Yeah, I mean, I guess. I mean, I think it's like you said, it's a starting position, right? If nickel corner is essentially a starting position on defense, slot receiver is a starting position on offense. And again, like how many times did I, you know, get mad last year because of Quez Watkins' usage, right? And so I think you would rather have a competent player.

And I also just go back to when they won the Super Bowl, like, they had three receivers that were like, oh, good, you know? Like, I know, I know Tori Smith was not. as good as AJ or Devante, but they had three guys who were competent and their slot receiver had the best season of his career, right? And that's, they were very hard to defend. And I just go back to the fact that they, they felt pretty unpredictable at that point. So I'm with you. Yeah, I guess before training camp, I did not really think that this was that big of an issue. But as this has gone along and as you and plenty of other people have highlighted this, I am more concerned

about it now for sure. I think I do expect them to do something. here just because it's so glaring. And like some of the shots that they took, Devante Parker, you know, Zach is driving off the road, listening to it right now. How dare you bring up that name? I thought we were done with them. Those guys have not really worked out. Like I don't see a ton of juice in Paris Campbell's legs.

John Ross, like a little bit more juice, but not to a functional degree. So I think they may end up doing something. That was the second part of the question. Do you think you're C.J. Gardner Johnson, Ronald Darby, do you think if you had to put any money on what position that happens at, would it be wide receiver or would it be somewhere else? I think it would be wide receiver. Okay. I think I could see them making a move at offensive line just because the depth is a little bit of a concern to me. And I don't know that I would see somewhere else.

I mean, I think they may claim a third tight end or something like that. maybe a defensive tackle, but I think they have actually been pleasantly surprised by their depth there. I think wide receiver offensive line tight out knows what that's what I would say. That makes sense. Quickly, a super chat from David,

who says, do you think the Eagles would have signed Sequan if Kelsey hadn't retired? Is Sequin something of a, you know, a buffer for worrying about not having Kelsey, maybe the tush push is involved there? What do you think? I don't know.

Do you think maybe financially, Kelsey would have cost more money than Juergens did? Is that part of it too? I understand the point of the question. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's fair, though. Your blocking's not going to be as good. You know, can Sequin make up some of those yards? I understand the idea there.

I think, I mean, I think if, assuming that the finances worked out, I think they probably still would have been interested, but maybe it pushed the needle in that direction. I have a related question. Do you think that, you know, there's so much like, oh, the boy. the Jets are such morons for making this Hassan Redick trade. Way too much. And that's true. But like the Eagles didn't necessarily get one over on the Jets.

Right. It still was only a third round pick. If the Eagles had not traded Hassan Redick, knowing that he wanted a new deal, knowing that he was just going to hold out and carried that holdout into the summer and still had Bryce Huff, do you think they would have, and we're like, telling the league, okay, we're going to trade Hassan Redick

to whoever wants him and we'll pay him this summer. Don't you think it would work down about the same? Yeah, and I completely agree with, I think you said this like last week, as much as I like making fun of the Jets here and we can make fun of them all they want because this is like, this is like day one GM stuff. Like if you're going to trade for a guy who's unhappy for his contract, you have to have the contract in place for him. But I don't feel better about the Eagles because of this trade. Like they're probably going to get a third round pick in a couple years for this. So like, yeah, the Jets are incompetent. I will say I'm.

I'm looking at so many of these holdouts around the league. I do like that the Eagles have everybody there. And how much will that matter in November and December when all these guys are signed? And they're back in shape and ready to play. I don't know. But I do like the fact that you have the 49ers, the Cowboys, a bunch of these other teams, the Jets, that have like real distractions right now.

And the Eagles do not have that. So that's been a good thing. Yeah, I think I generally lean towards like the distraction stuff is overblown. But if you're making that case, like they've got two new coordinators, like they're putting in new schemes, it does sort of make a little bit of a difference you would think that they have the guys here. All right, let's talk about our friends. Splash at Bet365 because it's never ordinary with Bet365. They've got 90 million users worldwide. The Bet365 live streams include over.

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We're going to unveil some of those categories at the end of the show. So stay tuned for that. All right. What do we got next, Mr. Handsome Rich? All right, tight ends. I got nothing for tight end. It would be a nice story of E.J. makes a team that's all I got really do you have any room for a J Jenkins he was back at

practice today I can tell you and was working in on occasion with the ones and twos I think he's got a shot but I don't think that anything is is guaranteed there okay and I will tell you what I think that Grand Calcutterra has looked solid as a number two tight-in I think they I think they will be okay there that seems to be the gist of what people are saying okay offensive line three questions so the offensive line first one my kind of this is this is the meat of the show but yep and we're going to get more and more bow-pilled as we go along. Let's start with, let's start with one of the front-line guys. Cam Jurgens, how do you feel about him? I guess here's why I'm saying this.

Because on one hand, like Jason Kelsey, I think we all know, he was a guy who retired still at the top of his game and still with, you know, somebody who knows all the tricks of the trade. And I think a lot of people have kind of wondered like, yeah, if Cam Jorgens is good, he still might not be, up to the level of Jason Kelsey just from an experience standpoint, right? Somebody who knows how to control the entire offensive line. On the other hand,

I've seen a lot of, I would say, national people hand-wringing about the Jason Kelsey absence. And I would say, like, Cam Juergens is not a fifth-round rookie who is replacing him at this point. He's a second-rounder who has a lot of the physical attributes

of Jason Kelsey, who is... Who is not only watching, Jason Kelsey, he has played next to him, he's talked to him, he's done all that stuff. So where do you feel Cam, how do you feel about Cam Juergens after watching him in this camp?

It's a good framing. And part of that is like this is what the plan was all along, right? This was the apprenticeship. Two years, as you said, once watching behind, once playing next to him, this is what he was drafted to do, drafted highly to do. As far as succession plans go. He should be good.

Yeah. right if they have gotten the evaluation correct he should hit the ground running here i've been i've been thinking about cam jerkins from the standpoint of not like replacing kelsey but from a for you know 15 years or so i have basically only known one kind of center in kelsey and not even from a physical standpoint but from a like this is the quarterback of the offensive line standpoint right this is the the eyes and ears this is like the leader of that group and yeah like Jason Peters was there in those times and maybe he was the best

player and he was an awesome mentor with younger players and there's Lane Johnson who's been awesome but you know it felt for a very long time that like it was Jason Kelsey's offensive line. Does Cam Jergens have to be the dominant personality of that group now

when you have not only Lane but like Lyndon Dickerson has a lot of that in him Jordan Milana has a lot of that in him as well like can the center be more of a wallflower I don't know. Is he going to be on the Christmas album? Is he going to be on the Christmas album?

Would it be a shot across his bow if he's not? Yeah. Disrespectful. But even if he can't sing. I think that the, you know, the getting out in the open field, getting to the second level stuff, I think he's going to be great at that. Yeah. The pre-snap diagnosis stuff, I think that's a major question. And it's not just a Cam Jergens question.

It's a Jalen Hertz question, right? And Jalen has talked about, oh, like I've really been looking forward to this. This is something that I've been, you know, hoping for. And I finally get this. There's no guarantee that they're going to be great at that. And it's one of the reasons why I think you could make an argument that they should have gotten like one series in the preseason. I think that's probably overstated. But when they hit the ground in Sao Paulo, this is going to be the first time that they've done it in a game.

And I don't know that it's going to be seamless. like I would say that my expectations for Cam Juergens are that he is a like bottom of the top 10 center in the league. Like I think that's a real, I think that's a realistic expectation for him. Yeah. And I think that would be good.

But there's like that, you know, he was a very up and down player at Garb last year, right? He started fine and then got injured and was struggled a little bit. This is where he is meant to play. This is where he's supposed to play. I'm bullish that it works out. And I think like I've liked what I've seen from him so far. All the guys seem to love him and they will really, you know, dislike any Kelsey sort of question.

Like, you know, it's all you guys. You guys are putting that on him. Like let him be his own guy. But that's obviously a part of it. I think he's like wired mentally to handle that fine. He's been around him for a while. But yeah, it is a bit of a unknown. And this is more of just a comment than a question.

I mean, like, we talk about like the mental side of the game. I feel like when they get to Brazil and really first four month or first month of the year, they are going to get blitzed a comical. Yeah, good point. Right. So it's going to be, you know, a pretty steep learning curve, I would say, for him in terms of just getting everybody organized. And, you know, I guess you would hope that Kellyn Moore and Jalen Hertz have done their homework. And like, look, I think I'm a little more positive.

about that because they literally have been staring at this the entire offseason. Like they know. I would hope so. What is coming? But it's, yeah, I think it's going to be, it's going to be hard for him those first couple games. Like he's going to have to be sharp in terms of how they handle those things. Super chat from Chase Daniel Plainview, who wants to know if the Eagles might be interested

in a Jack Stole reunion if Joe Shane cuts him. Wouldn't shock me because the one thing you do have to keep in mind is, is that Jalen trusts Jack, boy does he. And so I don't think that they would burn a roster spot on him at this point, but if nobody claims Jack stole it gets really, I guess he's a veteran now, so he wouldn't even go on waivers. I think they could be practice squad curious. Yeah.

Speaking of Daniel Plainview, Kyle, I saw on Twitter, he was responding to a question. There will be blood or no country for old men. No country for old men for me. Yeah, me too. It's more exciting. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I agree. Okay.

Good performance, though, DDL. It can't be knocking DDL, yeah. No, it can't be doing that. Did you ever hear for a... Like, he was such a character. He's a method actor. So basically, like, Stephen Spielberg for Lincoln would have to be like,

okay, cut Mr. Lincoln. I just find that so bizarre. It's pretty good. It's also, it is funny, especially for someone who was long dead. Like, you know, it's, like Daniel Plainview is a made-up character, right? Like, I can see getting yourself into the mind of like, this is who I am.

But to know that this is someone who has been dead for a very long time, like you are playing someone else in real life. Like, that's a little bit more of a stretch. It's a little bit more. Do you think he called like, it was Looney over here? Do you think he called it? I guess it was Sally Field in that movie.

Do you think he called her like Mary Todd? Like what I was having. It would just be a very strange work about it. How far does it go? It'd be very weird. Yeah, if he called Joseph Gordon-Levitt's son to me, that'd just be weird. Okay.

So I guess, and you have a better focus on the entire league. So let's just say the first five guys that the Eagles trot out on opening day. Yeah. And the offensive line. Where do you think that group fully healthy ranks league-wide? Well, like on paper, sixth, something like that. Yeah. You know, fifth, sixth, seventh, I would say. And I think that's like part of the, uh, coming down to earth a little bit for Eagles fans. Like they have, they have had the gift of

knowing that it's going to be a good offensive line if everybody's healthy for a very long time. That is not exactly the case right now. And I think there is a, a real difference between having a top three offensive line and like the eighth best offensive line. And do you think that, because you've mentioned this too, that you think the depth is much worse than it has been in past years. I mean, I'm putting worse. It's hard for me to say, it's hard for me to say worse, but it's certainly a bigger question mark. Now, you know, you don't, you don't know how good Sue or Jack Driscoll is until they play, right? I think I like Dylan McMahon a lot. I think Trevor Keegan, there are reasons to like him. I think he's been a little bit up and down.

I think Fred Johnson, knock on wood is a fine swing tackle, but I don't know that you really want him in the game necessarily. Tyler Steen, I don't know what to make of. I think that he's looked solid when he's been on the field, but he can't stay on the field. I don't know that they have, you know, there's no big V. There's no big V. Yeah, exactly. All right. Well, I mean, look, we know that there are never injuries on the offensive line.

So I think we're probably going to find that out at some point. Okay. Next one. Go ahead. Edge rushers. So let's get rid of the injury potential. This is Madden and we're turning the injuries off for this one. I would like you to rank.

these players in terms of the number of snaps they would get over the 17 games season. Okay. In alphabetical order, Brandon Graham, Bryce Huff, Jailix Hunt, Nolan Smith, Josh Swett. I think it is... Huff and Hunt, we're pretty close there. Alphabetically. Yes, yes. I'm going to take you from the bottom.

Jalick's Hunt is fifth. I think Brandon Graham is fourth. Okay. I think Nolan Smith is third. I actually I think that Bryce Huff is first and Josh at a second I think Zach might say opposite that's just a bet against health but I think those are the top two guys for sure

feels like Brice Huff has played a little bit better over this past week plus yes then he did in the beginning yes the day of vacation away from having to play against Lane Johnson was very nice for him and then he looked good in that Patriots game I think it's reasonable to expect that one of Huff or Sweat is a double-digit sack guy.

I think that's what the goal should be for the edge group. One of those two guys gets to double digits. The other guys, you know, hover around eight or something like that. And I think that Nolan Smith is the X factor. Like if you are just tuning in now, like what should I expect from this guy who was a first-round pick in his second year? I think it's a big question mark. I could be convinced that Nolan Smith is going to have a solid year.

as like a workman-like guy who has some clean-up sacks, gives you a little bit of value as being able to cover guys out of the backfield and has eight sacks or something like that. I think that would be awesome for him. I also wouldn't be shocked if he just looks like he doesn't have the physicality against starting tackles and has a similar season to last year where it's like two sacks. I think it's a pretty wide range of expectations.

You already answer my second question. Nolan Smith is the mystery guy to me, right? because, like, I think a lot of people who have even watched the preseason games have said, like, there's a lot of snaps where he looks completely overmatched here. He's had like pancake by tight ends in run block and run defense. But then he is a great motor and he also comes up with the sack on other plays too. And he doesn't really have moves, but sometimes he gets to the quarterback. Yeah, it's, I don't know, it just feels like everything he has put on, you know, on the field during training camp and on tape during the games,

just feels like, yeah, it's like you said, there is a wide range. of plays for him. And I guess, like, is that a position where you can be so volatile or no? I feel like you probably should be a little more consistent there. Yeah, you would think. But, you know, I feel like I have been kind of hard on Nolan Smith. Players are allowed to develop, you know, it's not always linear. Sometimes it takes time.

And, you know, we talk to Clint Hurt today, and he's bringing up, now he doesn't even coach Nolan Smith, but he's bringing up how he talks to the defensive tackles about Brandon Graham's story. you know, Brandon Graham didn't make a huge impact right away. And now all of a sudden he's the longest tenured eagle, right? I don't know that I don't think that Nolan Smith is going down that path necessarily. But the motor matters. It does.

And I don't think he's losing that. So like there will be there will be times when you're thankful that you have a guy who's running around like a madman. But there will also be times when he's running up against a left tackle and he just gets engulfed. And he stands no chance. Brandon Graham blocked me for not adding him, but just, you know, I might have had an Earl Thomas tweet about him where I typed out his name. He was, as you remember, earlier in his career, he was his name searching. He was very, very block-havenile. Oh, yes.

And then- Which I think is good mental health-wise, yeah. Yeah. Block everybody. Yeah, why not? Yeah, sure. So I could not see his tweets. I believe after the Super Bowl, he went on a big unblocking. Yeah.

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Jalen Carter. I think that group has some real upside. I'm surprised you don't have a Jalen Carter question because I think for the casuals, the thing to know is that Jalen Carter could be the best player on the team this year. That is within the realm of possibility. I guess I just didn't think that was that interesting of a question. So I appreciate you answering it for me right away. Okay, linebackers, do we have anyone on the roster right now that can get to the T.J. Edwards or Nigel Bradenzo.

Just competence. I would argue. I think Nigel's up there. Yeah, they were good players, both of them. Nigel especially, yeah, in 2017 was fantastic. But it feels like, to me, at linebacker, there's like, you know, there's like seven or eight guys that are like really true difference makers. And then the rest of the teams are just looking for competence.

And that can make a huge difference. And a lot of these Eagle seasons have been, can they find at least one of those guys? Or can they not from the bargain bin? And, you know, with the amount of resources that they spend on it. So, you know, I've read a lot. It seems like all of these guys are pretty good blitzers, all of those things. But is there a player in there that you think has a chance to get?

Let's say even the T.J. Edwards, though. Yes. And I think the good thing about the group this year is you could convince me that it's going to be any one of four guys. And I think that that's much different than last year when it was like you were holding your fingers hoping that somebody would get there. Now, I'm not sure that any of them is going to get there. I think that Devin White certainly has the athletic tools. He has been an up and down player over the course of his career. I think you cannot necessarily rely on him to always be in the right place at the right time.

I think that there is a, he is less of the T.J. Edwards' baseline level of competency type player and more of the Nigel Bratum. He's got the upside. He's got some splash play potential. And all of these guys, all four of them have some pass rushing shops. So I think that we probably will see Dick Vanjoblitz a little bit more this year than he did last year. So Devin White certainly has the physical tools. I'm still pretty skeptical of Zach Bonn, but he has looked good this summer, much better and more instinctive than I was expecting for a guy who has been in the league and not played that position. Nacobie Dean is coming on of late.

There are some players in the locker room who have high expectations for him. We talked to read Blankenship today, and he was saying that he's expecting a bit of. big year from Nikobe Dean, just what he's seen from him all summer. And then I'm still pretty high on Jeremiah Trader Jr. And I think Jeremiah Trader Jr. over the course of his rookie contract, I think he will get to that T.J. Edwards level, whether it's this year or not, I think that they have that guy there. So I think between those four guys, they are a little bit deeper with, like, potential competency than they were last year. I don't think they're going to be in a, you know, knock on wood.

wishing on a star to sign Shaq Leonard in the middle of the season this year. And then I should also say Orrin Berks, who has been injured all of camp and was the third linebacker for the Niners last year, returned to practice, finally was a part of team drills today, was working with the third team primarily, but some also reps with the twos. I think it's possible that he sticks around on maybe the practice squad week one and then is signed. I think they have more mediocrity at linebacker than the team. have had last year and I think that's a good thing.

If these are all dart throws, like last year they were taking 10 steps back to try and make that dart throw. Yeah. These are, these have a better chance of hitting. They were taking three-pointers now that these are mid-range jumpers. Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, I feel better about that then.

That's, it's like, look, last year they were signing guys, you know, who were free agents at this point. And guys were retiring. Yes. It was bad. You answered my second question there, too. You do think Vic Fangio is going to blitz more. because all I hear about is that these guys can blitz.

I think a little bit more. Yeah. I think, you know, the numbers prove it out that Devin White was one of the best linebacker, blitzers in the league over the past two seasons. Some of that is, I think, because Todd Bowles is very good at that. And he's the guy who blitzed, and so it's maybe a little bit more of a bowl stat. But I think he can do that. That is Zach Bond's background, so he better be good at it.

And then Dean and Trotter Jr. have both shown a bit of an aptitude for it. I think Trotter a little bit more. Okay. Fair enough. All right. Last one. Secondary. And then we'll get to the Ospreys.

Here we go. Again, we're turning off the injuries again. Okay. Don't want to play with injuries. Yep. Video games. Okay. Sunday, November 10th in Dallas.

That game is on CPS for some reason, by the way. That's bad stuff there. First of, Tony Romo stinks now. Yeah, he's not good. And also, like, come on, that's got to be a Fox game. Yeah. Who are your three starting corners that week? not yours, the Eagles.

Quinion Mitchell. Outside, inside. Outside. Cooper DeGine on the inside. And then, I mean, it would be Darius Lay if he's healthy, but if I'm betting on whether he's going to make it to November, I don't know if I would. I mean, I'll say Darius Lay.

But I think by the end of the season, it could just be that future lineup where it's Kili Ringo, Quinnie and Mitchell, Cooper Dachene. So Ringo over Rogers. I think so. I think long term, yes. Okay. Yeah. And I mean, like, look, I think, have you felt that Slay has played well during this training camp? Yeah, I have. I haven't, you know, it doesn't look like the wheels have come off just yet.

But I also don't remember thinking that James Bradbury looked bad last summer, you know? I think we won't know with Slay until we see it in games. Look, you had the stat that basically nobody has aged started games at that position last year, right? It was just Patrick Peterson. Yeah, I think that's right. Which is rough. I think Shield might be yelling because he's a big on that stat too. So he might be saying, that's my stat.

He'll have a chance to, he'll have a chance to yell about it tomorrow. I miss a couple, I miss a couple weeks and the credit wars have just been, it's just been raging since I've been here. Okay. And so would you feel pretty good about that lineup at that point of the season? I don't know. Yeah, I hope so. But yeah, I think, I mean, young secondaries,

they take time, right? It's not a hit-the-ground running position. It's usually a developmental position, so I think you could be in trouble there. And maybe that's the case for Isaiah Rogers, is that he provides a little bit more of a known quantity. I'm curious. I think there's a real curiosity for me about the thing that we talked about a lot in the off-season, the, you know, the tension that Nick Siriani and Howie Roseman have between Howie saying, like, we need the young guys to play, and Nick, doubling down on like, we've got to win the end. this week. Yeah.

I would imagine because he's an old school guy that Fangio would lean more towards the latter. But like this secondary is very much a case of if you get these guys on the field early, maybe that will serve you better at the end of the season. But, you know, Isaiah Rogers is the one getting the plurality of the reps right now. I don't know that I believe it will carry over to week one, but that's the case at the moment. What type of corner do you generally like better, the archetype?

Like the Isaiah Rogers just crazy recovery speed, crazy good athlete, or the Kili Ringo, like, I can beat you up a little bit at the same time. I would say aesthetically, Asante Samuel is my ideal corner. Like the gambler going to make a play. Absolutely. I think that's my favorite aesthetic version of a corner. He's very rare, though. Of course.

Yeah, that's what made him awesome. That used to drive me crazy when people talked about him not being able to tackle. It's like he takes the ball away once every two weeks. Absolutely. It's insane. Yeah. Yeah, that's the upside. Okay.

That was good. I thought that was fun. I feel like I'm filled in. All right. Well, let's get to the Ospreys that. Now, as I said, on all pHLY.com, if you are a diehard, you can vote for the Ospreys. Now, I'm not guaranteeing that the popular vote will be the ones who get the actual award, but you get to be a part of the process.

That's what matters. These are the ones that you can vote on. I've saved the top 12 most interesting or important awards to be actually given out on Osprey's afternoon. on Thursday at 2 o'clock. But until then, let's run through the ones that you can vote on that we will speed through during the Ospreys. What do we got first, Julia? Ah, the Brief Turkey Award for Worst Individual Game Performance

by a player from last season. We have the nominees here, Jalen Hertz, against the New York Jets, in which he went 28 to 45, had three interceptions, and won an extremely terrible play. We have Nicholas Morrow against the San Francisco 49ers, a game in which the linebackers were exposed, and Morrow forced Christian Ellis to take the bullet for him.

We have Albert Okuegbenam against the San Francisco 49ers. I looked on True Media. This was the most routes run by any eagle last season in the game in which they did not have a catch, 28 routes run, one target, zero catches. We have Matt Patricia against the Arizona Cardinals, a game in which he stunk, and Jonathan Gannon got his revenge. And then finally we have Nick Siriani and Brian John.

as a couplet against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, a game in which, despite all the evidence to the contrary, they forgot that other teams were allowed to blitz. So you can vote on that one. Just a loaded category. Loaded category. Yeah. I mean, the negative categories this year are stacked.

Okay, what do we got next? The Wally Pippet Award for the Best Injury Fillin. We have Jack Driscoll, Christian Ellis, Josh Job, Sue Opetta, and Jack Stole. Now, you will notice Kili Ringo not on this list. I don't view Kili Ringo was an injury filling. I think it was, they got to the end of the season, we'll let the young guy play. So to me, I mean, obviously,

I'm in the camp of Ellis or Sua here, but I actually vote for SUA. I think that's a two-man race, yeah, for sure. Next up, the Golden Fruit Dove Award for the player with the most juice. Who had the most juice last season? And I think it's appropriate. that Jalen Hertz is not nominated for this category,

but some people may disagree with the committee. You have A.J. Brown, Jalen Carter, Jake Elliott, Devante Smith, and Dianne Swift. Where would you go here, handsome rich? I never really thought about a kicker having juice, but I mean, he was borderline-yghals. MVP, some of the kicks.

I mean, that kick against Buffalo to tie the game up, wow, unbelievable. I think I can, I don't want to give it away, but I can tell you that that kick is nominated for the prestigious Gulletzer Prize for best play of the season. Did you have to get the five names for all these categories? That's a tough one.

There are a couple ones where it's a stretch. No offense to DeAndre Swift who went to school over here. I don't think he... Can you make that list? I think he pulled to Zach. No. I don't know. Whatever.

I was just pointing. Yeah, I don't think he should have made that category. Yeah, I think AJ would be my pick there. AJ, yeah. I think it's AJ or Jalen Carter, for sure. Next up. The beautiful Fruit Dove Award for the game that had the most juice. I like this one.

You've got week two, the Thursday nighter against the Minnesota Vikings. You've got week seven, the Sunday night football game in Kelly Green against the Miami Dolphins. And you've got that three-week stretch, the week 11, Monday nighter against the Kansas City Chiefs, the Super Bowl rematch, then the week 12 overtime game against the Buffalo Bills. And then following that, a lot of juice heading into the NFC championship rematch, week 13 against the San Francisco 49ers. Which one did you feel like you had the most juice for? Kansas City.

Super Bowl rematch? Yeah. Nick certainly, you know, yelling afterwards. That was his highest juice peak of the season. Yeah, and that juice didn't backfire on him or anything. I didn't have to see that clip for the next two months. Oh, wait, I did. Yeah.

Okay. Oh, well. Next up, the Rook of the Year. This one feels like a runaway. Sidney Brown, Jalen Carter, Eli Ricks, Keely Ringo, and Ben Van Sumerin. Ben Van Sumerin's like looking around like, wow, what an honor. Yeah, I think that one's pretty easy.

I think that one is pretty easy. Eli Ricks. Next up. And by the way, thank you to Julia for putting these graphics together. We've got the Gooseg Award, one of my favorites for the best eagle to not play a game for the team. We have Dan Arnold, Roshan Evans, Miles Jack, Dennis Kelly, and Gridi Williams. that is a great category. I mean, through the years, I mean, you just forget all the players that come here for a cup of coffee, two cups of coffee.

I don't know. They got free coffee. I will say, and I don't know if this is, you know, it's certainly getting older. It's also not being at the games and watching the games on TV for whatever reason. And also maybe just because the season turned out the way it did, I feel like I have much less memory of last season than typical seasons. Also, maybe that's the result of doing this exercise in late August. But the Ospreys are the Ospreys. Okay, what do we have next, Julia?

Ah, the Baby You Flutter My Bread Award for Best Sponsor, the nominees, Foco, Game Time, Miller Light, Shadyrays, and True Mark Financial. I'm excited to see where the voters go for that one. I think my answer is that all the sponsors are great. I think they're all great. Why can't we... Loaded category. Participation trophy time. How many more do we have left?

Julian. Okay. Oh, we got seven more. Here we go. Rocking and rolling. The unnecessary award for least essential player on the 53-man roster all year long. Josh Job, Marcus Marietta, Albert O'Kuigbinom, Rashad Penny, and Kwez Watkins. Another loaded category.

Well, I think that's a two-man race there. I think the tight end and the running back are just... Those are good, but I got to say I feel like you're underrating Marcus Marietta. Yeah. just had a terrible preseason, probably would have been terrible if they put him in the actual game. And unlike last year, like Hertz was like, look, I'm staying in the game,

even though I'm probably a little bit banged up because I have no confidence that this guy's going to do anything. Yeah, no, Marriota was really bad. All right. Next up, the Ugly Duckling Award for a person who most surpassed expectations. And this usually is a nice loaded category to find people from last season's team who overperformed their expectations, very difficult.

The nominee is Justin Evans, Braden Mann, Sue O'Petta, Eli Ricks, and D'Andre Swift. Braden Man, maybe? I think it might be Braden Man. He had like a couple rough punts at the beginning, and then he was very good by the end of the season. That would be the first time that a punter has won that award. Next up, the Bustard Award for Person Who Most Underachieved,

James Bradbury, Jordan Davis, Jalen Hertz, Shaq Leonard, and Nolan Smith, the nominees. I mean, is Bradbury underachieving when he just kind of Yeah, the wheels fall up? Right. Do you blame him for the tires blowing out? You know, maybe not necessarily, but also hard to. That's it. Yeah.

How much you factor in whether the player is still good or not. I think your answers can be, your mileage might vary on what you. Yes, your own expectations, yes. Next up. The Teradactal Award for Best Performance by a Player 31 Years or Older, and you want to talk about a loaded category. Here we go. It speaks to the roster composition.

Fletcher Cox, Brandon Graham, Jason Kelsey, Lane Johnson, and Darius Slay, all very worthy potential winners. I mean, they got some great performances from the old guys last year. Absolutely. Unfortunately, that didn't take them that far. Unfortunately, that did not take them very far. Yes, but that's a nice loaded category. Next up, the Owl Be Better Award for a player most likely to take a

step forward in 2004. Jordan Davis, Nikobi Dean, Cam Juergens, Tanner McKee, and Keely Ringo. Loaded category.

Loaded category. I don't know where to go there. I can make a case for about three or four guys there, I think you could. And a lot of the guys we have talked about on this episode. What do we got?

Two left, Julia? Three left. Exit stage flight, the award for the player of the team most needs to replace in 2024. You can take this a couple different ways.

The options. James Bradbury, Fletcher Cox, Jason Kelsey, Nicholas Morrow, and Kwez Watkins. Oh, I like this. I like this. You can go two different ways. Right, yeah. So you could make the Kelsey case. You could make the Morrow case. I would make the Morrow case. Yeah, I think that's probably a good case. All right, two left. The Come Black Swan Award for the comeback player of the year. And boy, stretching it here as well, Fletcher Cox,

Zach Cunningham, Julio Jones, Bradley Robey, and D'Andre Swift. What were they coming back from? hard to say I would hope Fletch get some awards here well yeah but you know you don't want a controversy though you don't want people accusing the journalistic

integrity yeah of PHLY just because we've had Fletcher Cox on I'm not gonna yeah I wouldn't tilt the scales but you don't want the specter of impropriety but I think that Fletcher Cox

has earned maybe a couple ospreys this year Podcasting ethics are very important to us. That's right. And finally, the Rags to Ostriches Award for Most Improved Player, Devin Allen with a surprise nomination, Reed Blankenship, Cam Juergens, Sue Opetta, all over the Ospreys, and finally, Devante Smith.

Again, another one where it would have been nice if there were some actual contenders for this category. I think I would lean read there, but I don't feel great about that. Yeah, that's a tough. one. And so this is the chance to rock the vote. We care about democracy here at PHLY. So go ahead and make your voice heard if you are a diehard at least on all pHly.com. Let us know where you stand on those and we will run through those during the Ospreys on Thursday, 2 o'clock, become a diehard. You get all the perks. You get to read all the good stuff. But obviously now the most important perk,

you get to vote on the Ospreys. That'll do it for this episode of the Ph. H.L.Y. Eagle podcast on tomorrow's show. Zach is back, and so is Shil Kapadia. So we're looking forward to that. I have a little reunion episode, and then on Thursday, oh, baby,

it's Osprey's time. Very exciting episode. Very much looking forward to your reactions to the Ospreys this year. And finally, Khalif has a super chat, Rich, and I would like to ask this as well.

He says he humbly requests a rundown of your Olympic takes. From my trip? I don't know. I guess so. Or do you want me to like have a take on No Liles or? Do you have a No Lyle's take? Well, you just, I wish you would just stop talking, you know.

Like he really, I was so excited when he won that race. It was an amazing accomplishment. The fact that he's such a slow starter and he just kept going at the end. And then he just keeps talking about, you know, the NBA or stuff. You don't understand the NBA beef. It's so silly. I mean, his point is fine, but like the continuing double down of like, I don't know who. Yokich is or whatever.

Well, and then he's like, I hate that Anthony Edwards is more famous than me. It's like, I'm sorry, Noel Is he is more famous than you. It's unfortunately in between the four years of the 100 meters, like Anthony Edwards is going to be more famous than you. It's, it's, you know, tough stuff. Anyway, Khalif, I had a great trip in France. I was just regaling Boa about it. Sounded fantastic. Yeah, it was, I went to, I went to Nice.

I went to Monaco for a few days. Oh. Did you see a Pellis Campbellsale? No, no. That's my limited French accent. I went to Marseille, which, you know, in and out of Marseille for a game. Very nice soccer stadium there. Okay.

And then we did Paris for the last day. And I guess my take would be next time I go to France, you know, instead of traveling all around the country, although Nice was very nice, it was nice, nice little train ride on the... Nice was nice. Yeah, and these was nice. Yeah, absolutely. I didn't even realize I did that, but even though I probably made that joke 30 times when I was there, I think my take would be I wish I was in Paris longer.

I love a Paris. Because honestly, Beau, I was pretty afraid being there in the middle of the Olympics. I was like, man, this place is going to be a zoo. There's just going to be so many tourists. Didn't really feel that way to me. Obviously, I didn't have any other frame of reference. I don't know what Paris is like during non-peak time, whenever that might be. But I don't know.

It felt like getting around the city was pretty easy. Took a nice little ride on the send, did all the touristy things. But I wish I did more, I guess I would say. So next time I go to France, instead of going all around the country, the south of France, I think I might stay in Paris for a few days. I don't like that. I mean, I love of Paris. Yeah.

I had a follow-up and I've forgotten it. What were you talking about? Just about the entire country in France. It was a good one too. and I've let the listeners down and the viewers, I'm sorry. What a bad job by me. Nice was nice.

Nice was nice. Yeah, okay. A headline. All right. Man, what was it? I don't know. Sorry. Until next time.

Yeah. I guess this is going to ruin my day. But here we are. All right. I'll answer it for you later if you figure it out. We'll open up the show with it tomorrow. That'll be fun. Okay.

Well, Rich, thank you so much. much for spending your time with us today, regaling us. What a pleasure. We look forward to the next time we get to talk to you. And we look forward to the next time we get to talk to you, Sikos. That'll be tomorrow at 2 o'clock right here on PHOI. Thanks to Julia and everybody else for making it happen. We will talk to you tomorrow. And as always, we love you.