PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - PHLY Eagles Podcast | Time for the Eagles to turn the page to the Atlanta Falcons & the upcoming MNF matchup

Episode Date: September 11, 2024

The coordinators spoke today & Zach Berman will break down what Kellen Moore & “Uncle” Vic Fangio had to say about Week 1 in Brazil. We also look ahead to the Falcons next week on Monday Night Foo...tball with Rich Hofmann & Jamie Lynch. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:03 Hello everyone and welcome in to a little bit of a different taste on the P. H.L.Y. Eagles show, Jamie Lynch, Rich Hoffman in with you. And Julia, of course, producing the show as always. Rich, Zach and Bo just worked too damn hard. And we wanted to bring the diehards and the good people seven days a week of Eagles content. So me and you get the honor of filling in for the fellas on Wednesday now. Fran Duffy's going to be cranking out some great weekend content. We got pre and post game now with Vinnie Curry.
Starting point is 00:00:34 So we're humming on all cylinders. It's bird season. And this is our first official Wednesday show together. And yes, this will be the Wednesday 2 o'clock show going forward. Honored to be doing it with you. It's going to be great, man. I think we have a nice mix too, right? Because Fran is, there's nobody better at breaking down film.
Starting point is 00:00:52 You were talking about watching the game with him. Oh, my God. His notes. Julia, did you see his notepad? It is insane. In postgame show, I was like, hey, offhand, do you happen to know how Hertz did against the blitz? And sure enough, like, there's a whole column there.
Starting point is 00:01:06 And he's like, uh, my calculations are six or eight against the blitz. And I was like, damn, dude. Like his note taking was immaculate. Yeah. And then we have Zach. We got the stone cold newsman. We have Bo filling in and only the way Bo can. Only the way Bo can.
Starting point is 00:01:22 I can't even describe that. But making me laugh primarily. Also, by the way, Bo is also like brand too. I wonder if you're like this. even though you do the post-game show with us. The Eagles are the one team where, like, you mentioned Fran just rattling off blitz stats. I'll watch a game, and I'm just so invested play-to-play the first time through that I basically black out. I am very much more in your school of watching a game.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Vinny got to experience. He was like, man, I'm excited to watch a game with you guys, which is really cool. And, you know, Beau has taken his notes and fairly serious, but, you know, has fun in between. Fran is like dialed the F-in, you know, note-taking, immaculate, replays, this and that. Vinny was Vinny. And then I'm over in the corner like, oh, you know, that AJ Brown touchdown, I just like erupted. And I think Vinny's kind of looking at me like, who the hell is this guy? And I was like, oh, yeah, I'm the guy that drinks beers and I'm kind of the fanalyst here.
Starting point is 00:02:16 We're much more on the same wavelength. So we got you all covered here at PHLY. To everybody in the chat, welcome in. We appreciate you. Zach Berman is going to be joining us momentarily. as Uncle Vic Fangio, probably high off of last night's Phillies win, spoke to the press today. And Kellan Moore also spoke. So we'll get the latest on that from Zach.
Starting point is 00:02:38 But Rich, I know you kind of had a unique viewing experience last Friday night. I was down at the tradesman in Center City for our watch party and pregame show, came back here for postgame show. But you found yourself at a wedding watching the birds game last week. Maybe we'll dive into that a little bit more. But how was that with the wedding birds viewing experience? mixed together. Very unique. And the groom, one of my best friends, uh, is a diehard Eagles fan, watches every game. He's like, he's the type of guy. Like you said, you're the guy yelling,
Starting point is 00:03:09 drinking beers. He's the guy like, I'm in a crowded pack bar with him. And he's yelling so loud at the television when something is going wrong that the bar completely stopped. So it was, very ironic that it was on his wedding day. Of course, I mean, look, Roger Goodell, trying to, you know, hurry this whole Brazil game along. And it kind of, it was a, yeah, it was funny that that happened. Yeah, it's funny, though, obviously at a lot of wedding venues, there's not many TVs, no. Not many TVs. Yeah, that's the point.
Starting point is 00:03:39 You should be focused on, like, talking to people. This huge life moment that's happening for these people, not a sports event. But it's certainly an interesting way to crowd react to it because I would imagine most of the people in attendance were birds fans. Yeah. Yeah, and the thing is, now everybody can watch the game on their phone. Sure. Technology is a good thing. There was one moment.
Starting point is 00:03:59 I did remember, like, I don't really remember a lot from the wedding, too. It was a fun time. But I do remember Jalen Hertz, rolling right throws that terrible picks across his body. And it was funny. I went off the dance floor for a few minutes. Just I'm like, man, the Eagles are driving. They could take a 10 point lead here or whatever. So I'm watching it with my friend off the dance floor.
Starting point is 00:04:20 And he throws that interception, one of the worst picks I've seen. It was bad. And we just quietly, he put his phone away and we both went back to the dance for. So, of course, I got to let you know that we are presented by our friends over at Bet365. Find out why it's never ordinary at Bet365. And make sure you're keeping your eyes peeled this year. We're doing something really cool with PHLY. I myself get to create these parlay boosts.
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Starting point is 00:05:27 Sequin Barkley, fresh off his NFC player of the week award. Unbelievable. Let's bring in our friend Zach Berman, who was down at the Novacare earlier today because Uncle Vic Fangio and Kellyn Moore spoke after an actual meaningful football game. Zach, let's start with Uncle Vic Fangio. Because, you know, I think back on the game and I have to like pinch myself a little bit like was Zach Bonn real? Did we really see that performance out of him?
Starting point is 00:05:55 He was spectacular and he was kind of one of the guys that Vic Fangio believed in, brought in was a big reason why he's here. What did Vic Fangio have to say today? Yeah, he was real and he was spectacular with Zach Bond, right? I mean, now, Vic Fangio said that, and this is something he mentioned back during the summer, that he thought Zach Bond could play inside linebacker based on some. some of the things he saw on the Saints film, he wasn't used quite a bit there, but he was used. There were times based on the way the Saints played defense where he had the role inside. And so it was a projection.
Starting point is 00:06:33 And that's why there was skepticism on the outside. Vic Fangio said he wouldn't have put his life savings on it, but he thought he could do it. And he has been able to do it. So certainly Zach Bond's been, is Zach Bond was the standout in that game defensively for sure. I think today, though, the big story is the person next to Zach Bond. And that's, or I should say, one of the big stories. And that's Nikobe Dean because Nicopa Dean was obviously the starter with Devin White down. But he would have been the starter even if Devin White was up.
Starting point is 00:07:03 If Devin White were healthy for that game, Nikobe Dean still would have been the starter. Nikobe Dean's the starter going forward. Nicopa Dine won that job during training camp during the summer, according to Fangio. And so I don't want to say it's a change at linebacker because it was a competition. but it is different than we anticipated, let's say, two weeks ago. Zach, I would say there were a lot of positives from that game, but one of the things people were disappointed about I was, too, was the pass rush.
Starting point is 00:07:31 And, you know, obviously there are the circumstances, right? That field, it felt like the sod father was back. And I think we need to at least point that out. Did Vic talk about the front today? He did. He talked about the front quite a bit. And in a few different ways, their pass rush wasn't good enough, which he made clear about, right?
Starting point is 00:07:53 But in addition to that, the Bryce Huff of this all is one of the more intriguing angles, one of the more intriguing storylines to come from week one. And so, of course, for those who haven't seen this playing time or who did not hear Bow and me talk the past two days, Bryce Huff was fourth on the team among edge rushers and snaps. This is your $17 million a year edge rusher. Really the prize of their offseason. Sequin's the biggest name.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Bryce Huff was the prize of their offseason. For him to be fourth, behind Brandon Graham, behind Nolan Smith, obviously behind Josh Sweat, that stands out. So you kind of get into this. So Nick Siriani said the other day that it's really negligible the difference. And I don't really think that's a great answer because he should be playing more than Brandon Graham. It's not that like Brandon Graham only took one or two. more. He should be playing more than Brandon Graham. Well, Vic Fangio said today that this is kind of the
Starting point is 00:08:54 way it's shaking out right now. I asked Vic, what does Bryce Huff need to do to play more? He says he needs to separate himself from the other guys. So that shows you that he hasn't separated himself from the other guys. This wasn't one of those that's kind of the way the snaps worked out. No, this is where Bryce Huff is on the pecking order right now. And then when you when you kind of parse the numbers even more, what jumps out to me is that Bryce Huff played on eight first downs. Brandon Graham played on 15 first downs. So they don't trust Bryce Huff yet on early downs. And, of course, Bryce Huff is not here to stop the run.
Starting point is 00:09:26 He's here to rush the quarterback. We know that. But that stands out as far as him being more than a situational pass rusher for the Eagles. And he's coming along there. But this is something that's been, I mean, Vic Fangio was honest about this going back to the summer. That he's not where the Eagles want him to be yet as a run stopper. Zach, did Uncle Vic talk about the big boys in the middle? Because Jordan Davis, I feel like, didn't really necessarily pop off the screen live when I was watching it,
Starting point is 00:09:55 but maybe had a better week than, you know, live eyes thought he did. And of course, Jalen Carter. Did he talk about the big boys in the middle at all? Yeah, he talked about, you know, how Jalen Carter is going to be commanding double teams and that he's got to keep at it because you never know when one's going to kind of break, right? I mean, that's what came up. with Jordan Davis, I don't have specifically in my notes, I'll listen back. But Vic Fangio talked about some of the big running plays and said, you know, their run fits were an issue.
Starting point is 00:10:25 They're tackling was certainly an issue. So that's not necessarily the guys up front. That's across the board. But with Jaylon Carter, he said that Janlon's going to get those doubles. And that that's where you never know, like, which play you're going to be the one to break through on. on. Zach, I know Vic talked about this a little bit today, but I'm kind of curious on your opinion on just, you know, where he views this.
Starting point is 00:10:52 The Eagles gave up, and I took this from an E.J. Smith article, so I want to credit EJ. Because I know that's important here, right? Yes. Very important. We don't want that to happen. The defense gave up nine plays of 18 yards or longer. And I think, you know, Vic Fangio, this defense has been, you know, one of the most popular defense in the NFL, and the big reason is stopping explosive.
Starting point is 00:11:12 So I guess, you know, you know, you mentioned the poor tackling, you know, CJ Gardner Johnson on the long Jaden Reed touchdown. That was that was one of those. Where do you think he kind of views those explosive plays and where they messed up there? Yeah, you're absolutely right in bringing this up. And, you know, this is something that, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:29 I wrote about on all p.shly.com earlier this week because Vic Fangio, the defense is designed around stopping explosives. Or like, you know, that's a big part of this. That's why you have some of that shell coverage, right? I think it was really, and talking in the locker, me afterwards, it was tackling. Darius Lay said tackling was the issue there. Cigarner Johnson kind of poohed the, he says it's the first game.
Starting point is 00:11:53 He's not worried about it. But Vic Fangio said some of it was, you know, kind of on the other things he could call better. Some of it's where the fits. But really, it's just tackling. And you're getting guys in open field and you have to make those tackles. And you're right to bring up those numbers. And based on here, I'm pulling up my number.
Starting point is 00:12:14 notes here based on the way that Siriani defines it. They allow 10 explosive plays in the game, including four plays of greater than 30 yards. And I think that's the, to me, that was the biggest blemish on the defense in the season over because explosives, the reason Nick Siriani feels so strongly about it, the reason why this is a big part of Vic Fancio's defense. And I know there might be a drinking game for me, like breaking up. Jonathan Gannon. But the reason why Jonathan Gannon structured the defense the way he did is because
Starting point is 00:12:49 games change with explosives. Like that 70-yard play that Jaden Reed had, that was the longest play against the Nixiriani defense or against a team against the defense since Nixiriani came at the head coach. So that needs to be fixed. And I think that they'll work on tackling technique this week. I don't think they'll be tackling to the ground in practice, but they return to the practice field tomorrow. I imagine the pads will be on and there will be a focus on tackling. Real quick. Zach, do you think that's preseason and kind of the way they go about trying to avoid
Starting point is 00:13:25 injuries? Do you think there's any relation there? Or is it just kind of the first week in the field? It's a good question because the defense, a lot of those guys did, you know, now Slay said to me a lot of them didn't play. And he's kind of talked about himself Slay, but a lot of these other guys did play in the preseason or at least some. But yeah, if you ask for it for, you know, if you ask for Fangio, you know, the way to improve tackling is the tackle, right? And the Eagles are, that's not something the Eagles do during training camp. Zach, on the other side of the ball, obviously the Eagles won the game because they got some of those big explosive plays themselves. What was the takeaway from Kellan more today? Obviously, Sequin gets named the NFC player of the
Starting point is 00:14:04 week. I'm sure he came up in his press conference. What was kind of the gist of Kellan today? Yeah, so this is kind of like, I, I, I, I, I guess when, you know, the, the viewers and the audience and the fans say, you know, the beat writers are negative, yada, yada, yada. It's because when you have these, these coordinators, you're not often like, tell me how great it was they scored 34. It's like, why did you on Hertz throw the interceptions? What was wrong with snaps, right?
Starting point is 00:14:34 Like a large percentage of the press conference was spent on like, all right, this is what went wrong, how do you fix it? Right? Not as much like, so I don't think, you know, the big play day. Jay Brown. That wasn't the leading question. Yeah, I get to go through. No, Sequin, you know, obviously Seekwon's game stood out and he likes the way
Starting point is 00:14:54 as Seguyen functions in this offense. This is going to be a big part of this. But, you know, the Mackay Beckton, Cam Juergens combination, that's it's what they expected. And, you know, they were, they were eager to see it. And it's what they expected. Devonte Smith in the slot, he played his highest percentage of snaps in the slot. And, you know, a victim, oh, I'm sorry. Tell him more really complimented, like the spatial awareness, because when you're in the slot, obviously, you have a nickel corner there.
Starting point is 00:15:20 You have a safety over top. You have a linebacker to your right or do your left. So there's like knowing space is so important there. But most of the time was spent on, like, why did Jalen Hertz throw those interceptions? And what was wrong, Cam Juergens and snaps and so on and so forth? We'll be positive in the next segment, Zach. But I am going to ask you then. Why did Jailen Hertz throw those interceptions? And what did Kellynne Moore say about that? Yeah, Kelman Moore said that they were outliers, basically. And, you know, third down, when, you know, Kellyn said he looks first at the play call.
Starting point is 00:15:52 And he said they were aggressive calls in those spots. That's Kellyn taking a little bit of it. I thought there were bad passes from Jalen, honestly. But I don't think, now you can say, all right, well, the second down pass, that was almost a pick six, that jailing through. That was probably worse than the interception, you know. But, yeah, he, he, he. said that they were outliers and they were aggressive calls. Zach, the tush push, obviously, a little bit of a new rule this year, new look to it.
Starting point is 00:16:21 You got to be a yard behind the ball or whatever. It doesn't look like it's leaving the Eagles offense anytime soon. Some issues on the snap there. Did Kellyn have any insight to the tush push and what went wrong in week one? Yeah, I think the footing was part of the issue there. And I think that that did affect them, kind of reading between the lines. The fumbles overall, it sounds like operational stuff there, things that they need to clean up. And I wouldn't be too concerned about it.
Starting point is 00:16:52 But, yeah, as far as those brotherly shoves, I do think the footing on the field was a factor. And then I think the key there was Sequin Barclay recovering it. And he kind of pointed that out because Sequan's job there is to push. So Sequon's going up there to push. ever in him i had the at the awareness see the ball on the ground jumping on it uh that was critical yeah um so did the guys get much into falcons week too and uh what they're maybe focusing on this week how much was there uh in look ahead conversation yeah a question from uh both of them really um and you know the the the falcons i i watched that game back uh i i watched it in real time
Starting point is 00:17:37 um and then i watched it back and that falcons defense played well against Pittsburgh. Now, Pittsburgh's offense wasn't much the right home about there, but that, that defense played played well. And he said that, you know, Jimmy Lake's unit, part of that there was, it was their first time. Like, they're like similar to the Eagles offense that there was that element of surprise. There's the element of surprise with the Falcons. So there's going to be an adjustment.
Starting point is 00:17:59 But the Falcons, of course, you know, they get Jude on. They sign Simmons. They have Jesse Bates. You know, they, AJ Terrell on the outside. But they have some players on that side. I mean, they have some players across the board. It's a good roster. So I think that, yeah, that it was kind of your perfunctory, you know, your preliminary remarks,
Starting point is 00:18:22 nothing too deep on the Falcon so far. Sure. So what's in the pipeline, Zach, article-wise? What are you working on for the remainder of this week that everybody can read on all-P-H-L-Y.com? Yeah, I'm going to get something up today on what was said from the coordinators because I do think it was newsworthy and worth being up there. I'm going to have Friday notes each, each week. Love it.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Yeah, I think given kind of, you know, I'm still going to mix in these features that I like to write, probably one every two weeks. But what you can expect them to see, at least as a staple, is Friday notes, like stuff from around, the locker room from the week. Some of it very newsworthy type things. Some of it kind of behind the scenes type things, but to give fans a flavor of what's going on. So that will appear every Friday morning. And I already have a few of those notes in the can. I'm back in the locker room tomorrow and Thursday. And so, well, tomorrow is Thursday.
Starting point is 00:19:19 You see, I'm, I started covering the exact days. It's not matter. And you're real in Brazil. It's okay. Yeah. No, it's not even that. I started covering the NFL 15 years ago. The first coach I covered was Tom Coughlin.
Starting point is 00:19:29 And whenever they played a Monday game or a Thursday game, Coughlin was like so confused because it, And it wasn't even a bit. It was like it would be Thursday. And you say something, he'd say, no, this is Wednesday. He's like, no, this is Thursday. He's like, no, it's Wednesday, right? And so now here I am 15 years later.
Starting point is 00:19:50 And like I literally live on the NFL calendar. So I say tomorrow as like I think Friday's Thursday this week and tomorrow's Wednesday this week because coordinators typically talk Tuesday because it's a Monday night game. So I got to tell my son why I won't be at a soccer game Saturday because I'll be watching. a random Friday practice. Go get them read. A Saturday practice this week. But anyways, I will have something up on Friday, which is notes from the week.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Read playing soccer and flag football? Yeah, flag football is Friday night. So that's my Thursday. The Eagles, his Friday, my Thursday. Yeah, he plays flag football on Friday night. He plays soccer on Saturday, soccer practice on Tuesday. Love it. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Zach, it's September. Football's in the air. If I, I don't know, wanted to get my hands on, I don't know, some new literature. let's say an eagle's new book or an encyclopedia of sorts about the Eagles. Where could I get one? Do you have any idea offhand? I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Here you go. Look at that. Oh, wow. Look at that. I'm not calling this in encyclopedia out of deference to... No, that's the Ray Dinger, but yes. This guy right here, Ray Dinger, he wrote the encyclopedia. He's the best.
Starting point is 00:21:02 This has some updating. We had to fill it in the gap, Zach. This is the curated history of the birds. This is 25 years of Eagle's history, and it's more essays. And a lot of them are reported essays with some new stuff, some stuff that I've had over the years. So you'll hear Jeffrey, you know, you'll have new insight from Jeffrey Lurie. But I'll also take you to Yazoo City, Mississippi, where Fletcher Cox grew up. And I'll take it in New York, Dakota, for both the Carson-Wenz era.
Starting point is 00:21:29 You'll get some, I mean, I'm very fortunate, very grateful that Malcolm Jenkins wrote the forework. So cool. There's a chapter here on Malcolm Jenkins that I think is a cool chapter. There's a real cool chapter on Brian Westbrook. I enjoy talking to Brian for this book. And then you can relive the 2017 Super Bowl. Anyways, it comes out two weeks from yesterday. So September 24th.
Starting point is 00:21:51 So you would say it's a great time to pre-order it, right? Great time to pre-order now. And we are going to have an event for all the die-hard. So if you're a die-hard member, or if you're a die-hard, can come to our studios, meet us. I'll be signing books there. But then also I have a book signing next Friday at the Barnes & Noble and Center City with Ray Dindinger. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. That is awesome stuff. Make sure you support Zach and all the hard work. The book looks tremendous. A great cover, by the way. Thank you. Thank you. Shout out the Triumph Publishing for that. That is awesome.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Everywhere books are sold, you can probably get it. Support Zach and get a great gift for the holidays. is Zach, you guys back tomorrow 2 p.m. Rich and I will keep the seats warm for you today, but enjoy the rest of the day. Appreciate it. Good talking to you guys. All right, there he is. Zach Berman, chiming in after the coordinators talk down at the Novacare today.
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Starting point is 00:25:48 like everybody else I know right now? Suffering from them right now. What do you get? the eyes, the throat. All of them? All of it, all the above. Yeah, my eyes. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Sometimes I want to rip my eyeballs out of my face. So there it is. Nothing too crazy from the coordinators today. You know, it is week one. I do like the idea of Vic Fangio. You think he proposes like doing the Oklahoma drill during training game? And like Howie Roseman's like, are you crazy?
Starting point is 00:26:14 What are you trying? He was like, Howie. Did you see CJ Gardner Johnson try to tackle in the open field? These boys need to hit. The tackling was. bad but like kind of as you and Zach and even Vic said I do it's every year it is but part of me goes like that field was so bad now it wasn't the sole reason why the tackling was so bad but I can almost go all right that was just one week and it looked like the Super Bowl you know kind of do over there
Starting point is 00:26:42 what a joke like Roger Goodell such a bad he has this product that we are all addicted to everybody in the chat we're all absolutely addicted to and he can do whatever he wants with it and we're still going to watch. I'm still going to gladly wait for every Sunday and just be super excited to put down some bets, watch a million games, throw on Red Zone, play fantasy, do all of those things. Man, that was such a crappy product. It really was. The field was so bad. Yeah, it's just like you can't have this multi-billion dollar industry where you have a insuffice playing surface. And look, soccer stadiums are different. They're built for speed and like, like, little guys. Yeah, little guys that aren't 350 pounds. I'm messy, not Mackay Beckett.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Exactly. Like, that field was just not up to par there. So let me ask you, because I know you were on the postgame show with Bo, Fran, and Vinny. Our new coworker Vinny Curry, yeah. Super Bowl champion, Vinny Curry. So where do you stand right now after that game? Because I'll tell you where I'm at, and then I'll let you go. Sure.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I got to say, outside of the pass rush, I'm feeling pretty hopeful, Jamie. And I think, you know, Bo and Zach touched on this, I believe it was two days ago, where they talked about, you know, the big takeaways from the game. And I, throughout the collapse all of last year, there were so many things that were wrong with this team. I thought they were one of the worst coach teams in the league. I think they might have been the worst coach team in the week. And I understand that the CEO coach and that whole setup is not ideal.
Starting point is 00:28:10 That could certainly go wrong. But it looked like they were much more organized on both sides of the ball. Like Zach was talking about, Kellan Moore is not really going to give you a lot about Sequin Barkley. Kellan Moore drew up some pretty good shit, man. Yeah, like he... Yeah, I think that's one of the definite, you know, feel-good things is like you do feel as though the coaching staff top to bottom is legit.
Starting point is 00:28:33 I don't know if you saw the route tree, you know, the next-gen graphic route tree of DeVante Smith and it was like the first four weeks of last year. And the dude was just on the right side of the field constantly. He wasn't used in motion. And you saw game one, week one of Kellyn Moore and Devante Smith. hit him on the right side, the left side, you know, going deep, going short, underneath stuff. He just saw, Devante Smith might have the best footwork of any wide receiver in the league. He's a joy to watch run routes.
Starting point is 00:29:00 And Chris Long, you want to talk about things you're feeling good about? Chris Long had a clip on his podcast after the game. And he like got me real jacked up about Devante Smith. And he was basically saying Devante Smith is nails. Like that dude is a warrior and a champion and he's 108 pounds. and with the game on the line, they fed that man the rock. And he was taking hits.
Starting point is 00:29:21 He was falling forward. He was doing everything. Chris Long really fired me up about Devante Smith. So when he won the Heisman that year, I didn't watch a ton of SEC football because it was the COVID year. It was just, you know, it was messy. They were starting late in the year. I did watch, I think they played Notre Dame in the college football semi-final.
Starting point is 00:29:38 And I was alerted that this guy had won the Heisman. I was like, this is the best football player I've ever seen. Like, he's just, he's wide open. So it was jarring to me a few months. later that the Eagles were able to draft him with. I think it was the 10th or the 11th pick. The 10th, I believe it, because the Giants were going to take him at either 11 or 12. They were right. And then the Eagles jumped up, right?
Starting point is 00:29:57 Didn't they jump the Giants to get them? And Giants fans lost their minds. It was great. And one of the big knocks on him at that point was just, he's so skinny. Like how much can he hold up in the NFL? And it just feels like obviously he's played a ton of games in his career so far. It really hasn't missed a ton of time. He hasn't missed anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:14 but it goes with not only does he make those contested catches where he you know he looks like he's like six four megatron jumping over somebody which is an amazing skill set not only does he run those great routes which I think we knew I think everybody even his critics would have given him credit for that coming into the league absolutely but it's like you said nails is the perfect word I wrote about it in the newsletter the other day nails is the exact word I would use some of the catches he made on that four minute offense drive at the end of and that and that They needed that. I mean, that was the game. Like, he was willing to get popped on those plays. And he, he's been doing that for a lot of his career. So, Devante was awesome. I mean, it's funny that we're talking about Devante because AJ, again, a monster made, I mean, made Javier Alexander look like he was like this big and slow. It was, I mean, it was such an impressive couple of plays from him.
Starting point is 00:31:05 But just the critical moments. They went to Devante. And it's just, it's, like you said, like this is where I feel hopeful, right? Yeah. is that they have those two guys and they have Sequin Barclay who looked like he had all of the juice. He had, it was a juice overload. Yeah. I mean, I got like having to remind myself that Zach Bonn and Sequin Barclay's games were real. Like I almost couldn't believe that Zach Bonn was doing what he's doing. But Sequin, I mean, Zach talked about it too. Jump in on that fumble there
Starting point is 00:31:34 on the botch, tush push snap. That saved the game too. You want to talk on the inverse of feeling good and AJ is just ridiculous. Devonte is ridiculous and Sequin. Like Jalen Hertz has toys upon toys. The negative, you know, I was with my friend Bob Cooney at the Phillies game last night, and he goes, he was with his son Kyle, who I know. And he said, what was your overwhelming takeaway week one?
Starting point is 00:32:00 And I kind of said, frankly, they were, in a way, lucky to win the game. Not to be like a pessimistic guy, but that turnover by Jalen Hertz was one of the worst decisions I've seen from a quarterback because a field goal there essentially ice the game. Like there's one thing you can't do there and that was throw that pick. Just throw the ball away. I don't know what he was looking at.
Starting point is 00:32:21 So like if you're talking about concern, that was a major decision that like kind of haunted me for a couple of days. That's why me and my buddy sadly walked onto the on the dance floor. And you know, I forget what song was. But yeah, it was it was a brutal throw in that spot. And of course, like everybody saw the score. Right? Just go up eight, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:39 That's easy thing. Those were terrible throws. Now, I will say that's part of the reason I feel hopeful because I think those are uncharacteristic mistakes for Hertz. I think it's almost karma for how much was made of the didn't throw an interception for what three weeks during training camp. It doesn't matter. Training camp just does not matter. But he doesn't usually make those type of things. No, typically not.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Right? And I think for that game, it's fair to ding him and say like, you know, he did a lot of great things, but those mistakes are such killers that in that specific game, I think you can dock him a lot of points, like, say like, man, that just, that was not good enough. You can't happen. You can't do that. But I am hopeful moving forward because of the stuff he did against the blitz. He looked good. Like, like, like, Kellen Moore, he mentioned it in his press conference today. I loved. Now, Jeff Haffley, the new Packers coordinator, not giving him one zero blitz the entire game. Come on, man. Like, you don't want to just, like test it out. I know that the Eagles were probably ready for it, but you know, it was a lot of
Starting point is 00:33:44 five-man pressures. And on one of those, though, he did a great job getting the ball to Jalen Hertz. I know as fans, we always get mad for Sam Bradford, short of the sticks. How dare you throw it? That was short of the sticks, but it was in a great spot because A.J. Brown one-on-one against Jaior Alexander with like legit separation. And Kellan Moore said like, that's a coaching point, right? If we can get AJ in that spot, it's good to throw short of the sticks. He's going to make that guy miss. Sure. And a lot of times that'll be a huge play because he's there.
Starting point is 00:34:14 So I really liked what Jalen did on the four minute drive at the end of the game. Absolutely. I thought, I thought Bo made an awesome point earlier this week, too. That Jalen is, his arm strength is such a weird thing because it is so, it feels like it's so lower body driven. Where when he can get his feet set, you know, we talk about, you know, how much he squats on those, those touch pushes. but really I think it shows up when his feet are set and he just has so much power from that lower body the touch on his deep throws are beautiful they're beautiful when his feet are set
Starting point is 00:34:50 I mean like the throw to AJ on the what was it 70 yard touchdown whatever that big play and then the throw to Sequin on the wheel route I thought that was the best ball of the game those were really nice throws right and I get it like those are the type of throws that high level and NFL quarterbacks need to make right those are the ones where if you miss them the announcer's like, man, Jalen Hertz is going to want those back, but he makes those throws a lot. So I was really encouraged by that, but as both said, man, like when he starts scrambling to his right and he does not have that lower body kind of base, you can tell like he's
Starting point is 00:35:23 a little more erratic. He's not the Josh Allen or Mahomes type where he can just fling it with his right arm and generate the power. Anyway, though, I like the fact that it seemed like he was very good with the motion. there were easy throws for him. And as you said, the numbers against the Blitz might be the most encouraging thing going forward because they struggled last year against the Blitz. You know, I don't think it's fair to say it was all Brian Johnson.
Starting point is 00:35:51 But clearly the offense was lame last year. It was unoriginal, non-creative and struggled with the aspects. And one of those was against the Blitz. So that was really encouraging to see. One other thing about the offense, I was really encouraged with Cam Juergens and Mackay were awesome in that game. There's been a lot of, you know, the film grinders putting out the film. Like there were a couple of those combo blocks where, you know, Juergens getting to the second level.
Starting point is 00:36:17 And some of those plays are that Sequin makes a great jump cut in the hole and makes a linebacker miss. But some of those, he had legitimately huge holes to run through. And if Sequin Barkley has huge holes to run through against the light box, he's going to do a ton of damage. Like there was on the one touchdown, they had a combo block where Bechtin is a, He's kind of holding Kenny Clark up. They're kind of battling. Cam Juergens, stunning amount of power, shoves him to the side and pancakes him.
Starting point is 00:36:45 I don't know. If you're too weak, we know that the other three guys are on the line are awesome players. Pro Bowl, all pro-calibur players. If you're two supposed weak links look that good right away, I get it. They probably got the same benefit as the Packers did with the field. But for them to look that good in Juergens issue,
Starting point is 00:37:06 be the snaps, which I think he will correct. He is correctable, yeah. I feel pretty good about this. Yeah, you had to think that internally they felt great about Bechtin, not playing him in the preseason at all. You know, Bo and I were doing the games and it was like, oh, no Becton, huh? Yeah. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:37:20 You would think the new guy at a new position would at least get a chance to knock some rust off. So for him to go out there and look as incredible as he did is really, really encouraging. It's great stock for Stoutland University there because if they can turn in this guy into like, you know, one of a, because he's a mammoth human being. Like that guy can move boulders. The strength on him is remarkable. Him and Lane Johnson, like, together, I mean, Sequan Barclay might be in heaven. Like, he's coming from a Giants offensive line that has been doo-do butter for years.
Starting point is 00:37:51 And now he's coming to an offensive line that has Lane Johnson, Jordan Maillata, one of the best guards in the game and an up-and-coming center and guard. Like, Sequan Barclay's got to be licking his chops. those guys decidedly not doodoo butter. No, the opposite of do do, do butter. Yes. And as we move forward to look ahead to the Falcons, I think the game was won by the defense in the first quarter, frankly.
Starting point is 00:38:17 You know, I say they're lucky in a way to win that game because how many times do you fumble it or turn over the ball, you know, three times essentially inside your own 35-yard line and stand to win the game. So I think the defense in the first quarter really stepped up there. You know, I think they got gassed a little bit in the third quarter when the team, when the Packers started going on their offensive run. But I think the game was won essentially by the defense in the first quarter. I thought they showed up in a huge and awesome way. They felt like the
Starting point is 00:38:48 two sides of the ball felt like the inverse of each other. Yeah. The offense made a ton of critical mistakes, but the structure looked great. Like if you, if you eliminate those critical mistakes, like you're going to be good moving forward. Whereas the defense is Zach was talking about, they gave up all those explosives, but in the critical situations in the red zone at the beginning of the game, they stepped up. Yeah, they were awesome. And I got to say, Quignan Mitchell, I know Fran was like even more wowed when he went back and watched the tape on this kid.
Starting point is 00:39:16 I had in my gut before I even, you know, I didn't get down in training camp. I watched the preseason, but Quignon, you know, played like 12 snaps. I just had this feeling rich in my gut that like Quinyon was going to give Devante a real test here for like the best Eagles draft pick of the last 20 years. he kind of backed it up and I got to be honest, I love the attitude. What about Danny Watkins? His heart was never in it. He was thinking about putting out fires.
Starting point is 00:39:43 But Quinyon Mitchell, like, what a great start to a career. I'm really super encouraged and excited about this kid. Speaking of Danny Watkins, I will never forget. His first year, they were doing the Sunday night football intros. And obviously some of the guys say, instead of their college, they'll say they're high school, their elementary school, their town, which I think is cool. What do you say? Vancouver, BC, Fire. department? Yeah, he was like ladder 10 and like my cousin who was who had basically had it with Danny
Starting point is 00:40:08 Watkins. We get it. You're a fireman. You're getting paid to be a football player now. Yeah, that was not one of their better picks. But Quignon Mitchell, hopefully, he looked great. He really did look great. And let's say you're down in Atlanta next Monday night and you're just sitting there and you get the sudden itch of like, man, I should go to this game tonight. Well, it happened to me when I was out in Riggly this year. I was originally only supposed to go to one game, but I was sitting at a Riggly bar and I realized the stadium was two blocks away. And I said, why am I not going to see the Phillies play at Wrigley Field right now? Let me hop on the game time app and let me just see.
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Starting point is 00:43:50 We are going to take a look at the line ahead of next week. But Rich, early gut on the Atlanta Falcons and the upcoming game. It's Kirk Cousins in Primetime on Monday Night Football. What could go wrong? Third straight year in a row. Yeah. For the Eagles. That's very weird.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Coming to Philadelphia and playing a primetime game, I believe one of those was a Thursday night game. Yes. But still, extremely weird that the home opener is the same quarterback coming in at night. So hopefully it goes like the last two because I believe the Eagles won those games. I would say, like, look, it's going to be a major culture shock for Atlanta coming off the Pittsburgh game where they just lost to a team that was willing. to kick 53-yard field goals and just beat them? And they did. And I think a lot of that, and look, I think for long-time listeners of this show, the whole
Starting point is 00:44:41 world is waiting for the next five days for one of the greatest rivalries of all time. And that's Bo Wolf versus the Melvin himself, Kirk Cousins. And Kirk Cousins, Jamie, was bad in that game against Pittsburgh. Now, we can say, hey, look, it'll be a culture shock for them in that Pittsburgh's defense looks all sorts of legit. The fact that T.J. Watt might be better than his brother. He might have been the best player across the NFL week one. He was dominant.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Like he's just in the backfield on every single play. It's wild. I know he's been banged up a little bit over the past couple years, but man, that guy is. I actually took one of the Bet365 odd boosts last week on the homepage there was Naji Harris over 25 yards and T.J. Watt to get one sack. And I'm sitting there. And it was just boosted to plus one. 125 and I was like, this is kind of free money because T.J. Watt's just like all over the place.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Sure enough, he gets the one sack taken away from him for an off sides that wasn't in fact off sides. He timed it perfectly. And then I'm sitting there and I go, oh, this one's a loser. Last play of the game five seconds ago. T.J. Watt comes up with the sack that ends the game. The bet hits and we all rejoice. But T.J. W. was a monster last week. But Kirk Cousins, you talk about him. Primetime games kind of is Achilles heel. His record now for his career in primetime games is 12 and 20. He's eight and eight at home in primetime games. I don't like his odds coming into Philadelphia. I'm feeling pretty good about the birds in week two here at home. Lincoln Financial Field is going to be nuts. So he, again, Pittsburgh's defense is really good, but he did not look good
Starting point is 00:46:17 physically. Like he was not driving the ball. You think father time came up with him? I can't caught up with him a I think that's a little bit, but he's also coming off an Achilles injury. Sure. So basically, this was a crazy stat. I took it from from Benny Souls at ESPN. He said per NFL NextGen stats, cousins moved an average of 3.1 yards per dropback in this game, which is the least dropback movement he's had in his career in any game by a full yard.
Starting point is 00:46:46 And it's like he basically was like a Brad Johnson level statue. For whatever reason, think of Brad Johnson. I know he's your statue quarterback. You always think of it. In part because he handed the Eagles a pretty bad loss. But for some reason, because again, Jimmy, there aren't, that's the biggest difference to me about football from the last 20 years.
Starting point is 00:47:06 There are no statue quarterbacks anymore. Even the pocket passers can manipulate around the pocket and at least make a free rush or miss like more consistently around the league. Whereas, and a lot of guys, actually, the better players, even though they're great pocket passers can do a lot more than that. I think Mahomes is probably the greatest example. I mean, he's such a weapon with his legs, too. Kirk Cousins, that was like Brad Johnson out there.
Starting point is 00:47:30 And, like, he was just taking a three-step drop, and he was getting rid of the ball, and he was not really driving it. So, you know, I wonder a little bit, like, I think anybody who listened to the live draft show, when they drafted Michael Pennix, I made quite a sound. I was absolutely stunned when that happened. Can you recreate that sound for us? No. It needs to be organic. It was an organic guttural sound. Yeah, I need to be wearing my blazer that we were wearing the first couple nights of it too.
Starting point is 00:48:01 But I kind of wondered, like, this is my conspiracy theorist on this. I was thinking like, maybe they signed Cousins in free agency. And maybe like a week later just saw like, oh man, this guy. This was a mistake. This was a mistake, even though they handed him the most money in free agency by a mile. I mean, Kirk Cousins is the NFL's ultimate bag getter, right? Like that guy has secured more money for me. You know Bradford now?
Starting point is 00:48:25 I think he's got to be. I mean, in terms of like, like, Kirk Cousins is the definition of mid. You know, like, he is just like fine. He can win you some games. He can put up some numbers. He can look the part at times. And then other times you look at him and you're just like, dude, this guy sucks. So like it just balances out to him being like the definition of a mid quarterback.
Starting point is 00:48:49 So right now on Bet 3. 365, Rich. The Eagles are a six and a half point favorite at home. Over Under comes in at 47. That's a big line for a team in Atlanta that was getting some pub. Of course, Drake London and Kyle Pitts and Bijan Robinson. And people thought like, all right, Kirk Cousins is going to like push them into the next tier of offensive capabilities. ZB loves Pitts.
Starting point is 00:49:14 I mean, he's a local kid. I do not love the Archbishop Wood product. Well, he's not good. well people again pits was a guy this year like fantasy wise people were projecting them to be like tight end five or six like he was going to finally take that next
Starting point is 00:49:29 step how does that line make you feel is it telling you anything about this game to me it kind of says the Eagles are going to roll and score a lot of points too is what it would say um you know the Falcons defense is weird right they're past a lot of safeties yeah
Starting point is 00:49:45 well they have they have some nice players in the secondary they are a little bit older with Justin Simmons. But they have, what do they have? Jesse Batesh. And then AJ Torell is a nice corner too.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Yeah. As well. But their pass rush was weak, man. And you know, it's funny. They take Michael Penix in the first round.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Like, you needed help elsewhere. You know, you could have taken Latsu or Dallas Turner, right? Yeah. You probably could have traded back and gotten one of those guys as well.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Instead, you took Michael Penix, who, I mean, it was just a bizarre pick. So they acquired Matthew Judon from the Patriots. That was like a training camp move.
Starting point is 00:50:20 It felt like some of their moves, Judon and Simmons. It felt like a little dream teamish to me. Like, you know, these veterans, it's hard to fit them into a defense. I know Rahim Morris defensive guy did a nice job with the Rams over the past couple years. I think a nice job in that they were competent and they didn't have a ton of talent. So, like, look, I think if the Eagles, even though those guys, they have some names in the secondary, like the Eagles' offensive line against the Falcons defense line, that should be a huge. mismatch on paper and that, you know, if they do kind of stack the box to try and take that away, then you got AJ and Devante on the outside. So I think the Eagles not only with the advantage there,
Starting point is 00:51:00 but also with the rest advantage too. I know that long 10-hour flight, but it's 10 days off. I mean, that goes a long way in the NFL. So it's going to be an interesting one right now on Wednesday, kind of the way too early read on the line. You know, the six and a half, the number that's always a hook below a football number always gives puts off my kind of trap you know spidey sense of like you know the public sees all the eagles only have to win by a touchdown six and a half so like i'm always a little bit like on edge about the football number hook um but i think the eagles cover that well i feel like kirk cousins in my gambling career uh when he has that six and a half number like he's down 13 he's throwing that touchdown with five seconds right he is kirk cousins if he's down six
Starting point is 00:51:45 I would rather play against him than pretty much any of the top 20, 25 quarterbacks in the league. When he's down 13, it doesn't matter. Oh, man, he's going to light you up. Yeah. So one thing I want to do on Wednesday is because it ultimately means nothing, but I do like looking in at the power rankings, Rich. And we got post-week-one power rankings.
Starting point is 00:52:07 The three I check, and I just do this for my own self-enjoyment. We'll talk about them. ESPN, CBS, and NFL.com. I check those out. And does it mean anything? No. It's the same as checking out a PFF grade. It doesn't mean anything. It's just... It's more fun than that, though. Yeah, it is more fun than that. So let's go through the power rankings real quick. After week one,
Starting point is 00:52:25 ESPN has the Eagles coming in at number five. CBS has the Eagles coming in at number eight. And NFL.com has the Eagles coming in as the number four team in the NFL after one week. Feel about right to you? Yeah, I mean, especially because, like, they're playing these three NFC South games. You know, coming up. And I will say, like, Tampa looked good. But again, it was against Washington and home. Baker was one of the best quarterbacks week one.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Bizarro world. Derek Carr had a good game, although he might have been playing against, like, an actual AAA football team. Very happy to announce this is the first year in three years that I have survived my Survivor League past week one. I took the Saints. Well, I had lost it three years in a row in week one. And a lot of people took the Bengals, I think, right? Yes, 44% of Yahoo Leagues took the Bengals last.
Starting point is 00:53:15 last week. So I dodged that bullet, luckily. I think with a much more manageable schedule than last year, like we, I know we said this in the offices a little bit. I think in terms of trying to to hammer the Eagles because they did screw up a lot of things. Their schedule was BS last year, man. Like they played. It was a lot. All of those Monday night games, they got two Monday night games flexed on the road. Like that doesn't happen to anybody. Yeah, I'm very like, I used to work in it with Sunday night football, I'm very over flex scheduling. Let me just, I think you had that in the, did you have that in the email this week about like even baseball, right? With the Phillies getting flexed to a Sunday night game with the Mets.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Flexing to a different day is unconscionable. Like, you can't do that. Yeah, you deserve the gulag for that. That's, come on. All right, looking ahead to this weekend, Rich, I want to look also around the NFC East and keep tabs on the new highest paid man in football, the Dallas Cowboys, and of course, the Giants. The Cowboys are going to be hosting the Saints 1 o'clock at home on Sunday in Jerry World. God, I think the Cowboys are going to 2 and O there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:23 What did you, did you watch the Dallas game at all? I did. The Browns game. Did you listen to Tom Brady? I didn't. So I meant to ask you about this, actually, because the game was on mute. We had my cousin and friends over and all the kids were around. We weren't really listening.
Starting point is 00:54:39 We were outside kind of drinking beers and watching, not really listening. Brady was that awkward? He was terrible. Really? Yeah. I mean, like, people give him the benefit for the doubt, like, oh, he's going to work hard and he's going to be good at it. Man, they're paying him $37.5 million per year. And Greg Olson is awesome. He's really good.
Starting point is 00:54:57 And they just kicked him to the curb. They had him called the Falcons game. And it's like, man, what a ridiculous hire in that, like, you have no idea. 500 million blind. And he's apparently not very good. Maybe he'll get better. But, yeah, he was not very good. What did you think of the Cowboys in that?
Starting point is 00:55:15 Um, hard to tell because the Browns were so bad. So bad. So bad. DeShon Watson like, you know, like, just go to hell, dude. Now he's getting sued again. It's just like, it's a supremely talented team. Uh, that's easy to root against. So like, I don't know. He just looked bad. And I know Kevin Savanski after the game said, you know, his shoulders, uh, getting there. I'm not really worried about it. I'm like, well, you should be because for some reason you guys gave. the most money in NFL history at the time to him, and he looks cooked. I feel bad. Kevin Smancy, I think, is a good coach. Yes, very good coach. Like, he got Joe Flacco to play really good football down the stretchhizer. Joe Flacco was like eating ice cream on his couch, too. Like, he had no business leading a team to the playoffs. And Deshaun Watson, not only is he terrible, not only does he have all that guaranteed
Starting point is 00:56:07 money. Like, did you see the dead cap hit is like over $100 million next year? He cost them their last three first round picks, man. That adds up. The fact that their defense is so good, despite the fact that they have not had a first round pick to replenish the talent pool is, I mean, it's crazy. Like, what do you think was a worst trade?
Starting point is 00:56:27 The Deshawn Watson deal or the Bryce Young deal? And let's take out the moral reasons because I think when you add those in, Deshawn Watson is certainly a worst trait. Watson or who? Or the Bryce Young trade for the number one pick that Caleb Williams comes back the next year. Take out the moral reasons because, like,
Starting point is 00:56:43 I think Deshawn Watson is worse. Price Young clearly a better person than Sean Watson. Like Bryce Young, if he was good, you wouldn't feel conflicted, rooting for him. I was, I was proud of myself on the radio at the time. I was like, I think you're absolutely nuts if you don't take C.J. Stroud over Bryce Young. I'm a bit of a sizes when it comes to quarterbacks. There's a reason there's only one Drew Brees in NFL history. Small hands, can he picket?
Starting point is 00:57:05 I mean, when that guy comes in with gloves and his doll hands, you just don't feel good about. He's like the opposite of manhands from Seinfeldon. I mean, he's getting songs written about him by Mount Joy. I would say, if K. Part of me wants to, like, reserve an answer until I see what Caleb Williams is. Because if Caleb Williams becomes what people think he can become, I think the Bryce Young is almost worse, right? Because that, if he becomes, like, the next Mahomes, that's the Holy Grail.
Starting point is 00:57:34 That's what every GM and team and organization is fighting and working for. So I don't think the Browns had anything that was close to, like, a top pick, given up in that, right? Three first round picks a lot, but the first round pick when you knew. Number one overall. When you knew it was a great quarterback draft. We'll see. I mean, Caleb Williams didn't have a great game. No, he didn't. But he's got a lot of talent. I think there's a chance he's going to be pretty good. Yeah. So I would say right now the Browns was worse, but a year from now, if Caleb Williams looks like the real deal Holyfield, then I would say the Bryce Young move is probably worse. And if you're talking more early, the Browns won is worse too, because we knew
Starting point is 00:58:08 Oh, sure. Deshawn Watson, terrible guy. Yeah, and they guaranteed him, as you said, like, and seen amount of money, which was just absolutely crazy. The other NFC East game this weekend is a pretty gross game. The Giants and commanders week two getting underway. Daniel Jones is absolutely terrible, really depressing times in New York Giantsland. All right, that's going to do it for us here to all the people on Roku viewing. We appreciate you to Zach Berman on his technically off day, which is not an off day for the hardest working man in show.
Starting point is 00:58:40 He really is. Thanks to him for hopping on. make sure you check out Zach's book available coming out in two weeks we're all super pumped for them to julia behind the scenes producing thank you to everybody that checked out me and rich's first wednesday show here during the eagle season every wednesday two o'clock we'll be right here got you covered thanks for hanging out with us today go birds and we'll see you next week

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