PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - PHLY Eagles Podcast | Where do A.J. Brown, DeVonta Smith & the Philadelphia Eagles’ weapons rank among the league’s best?

Episode Date: June 17, 2024

It’s a ranking day for the PHLY Eagles podcast, as we’re looking at the best assortments of weapons in the NFL. Are there any rosters of WRs/TEs/RBs you’d rather have than A.J. Brown, DeVonta Smith, Dallas Goedert and Saquon Barkley?Zach Berman and Bo Wulf share their rankings and debate it up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Coming up today on the P. H.L.I. Eagles podcast, we are ranking the weapons in the NFL. A.J. Brown, Devante Smith, Dallas, Goddard, Sequin, Barclay. Good top four, a little shallow. How does that rank around the rest of the league? We'll find out in just a minute. Last a Monday, Berman, here to talk weapons. A.J. Brown, Gaudard, Sequin, We've been debating who's the wide receiver three. Did they do enough to buttress that position over the course of the off season? to find out now how they rank, at least in our minds around the rest of the league. How you doing, Zach? Happy Father's Day. How was your weekend? It was great. Excited for the show. Excited for the week ahead of shows. It was a nice weekend. It's been quality time with my family and I enjoyed the

text exchange with you yesterday to prepare for today's show. Did you? I did. Yeah, I had some stuff fermenting. I was fermenting. I was brewing. Yeah. I was driving with my son yesterday. He was asleep in the car. And so I was listening to Bob Costas on a podcast, the Press Box podcast. I'll give credit. First off, Bob Costas is like, that's, that's, that's your guy. That's my guy. Yeah, he speaks so well, such great recall. But as he was speaking, I was thinking I was mapping out different show ideas.

And this was something that I thought about today's show ever since. Well, not ever since, but when I saw T. Higgins reupped, I was like, you know, we've had this debate. about Eagles wide receivers and where they rank. I'm like, what if we stretch this? The skill positions. Bob Costas on that great recall was, my dad was talking to him for a story a couple weeks ago and he got on the phone and Bob Costas immediately recited like the intro to an old Steve Wolf's story.

That's the recall that you're talking about. That is awesome. There's also Bob Costas. That is really cool. The subject of a long running inside joke between my dad and I, this was. probably I don't know it was probably 10 or 11 years old at some point my dad took me down to spring training you know it had been a been a great trip you know I got I got this ball with all these different autographs you know we've we met we met a lot of cool people and we got to the airport

to fly home and my dad's like you nudges me it's like you see you see that is and this is back when you had to check in at the at the counter right have I told this story before no and he's like it's it's like oh like I can go introduce us well we'll go say hi we go out we go up to the man and it looks nothing like Bob Costas. It's not Bob Costas and he's carrying like a Marlborough bag and so now every time or often I'll just be like to a random person my dad be like oh hey you know that is Bob Costas it's a good running joke that's good yeah that one's been lasting for about 30 years yeah it's a bo bit one that you keep going back to the well one that one go yeah do you know bob costis his birthday by any chance January 6 March 22nd why do you know that's my birthday

I share a birthday with Bob Costas. I was amazed. So, and again, we actually have, have like, a fun show to discuss. But my quick Bob Costa story, he went to Syracuse. I went to Syracuse. And he came back, the radio station I worked at there, W-A-E-R. And he was taping a promo. And, like, you know, you got to understand, I'm in all of anyone who's, who's like, who does this.

But at that time at our radio, I would like prepare like crazy for. for a 30 second read on like giving you the Syracuse lacrosse score, right? Doesn't sound like you. And Bob Costas gets up there. And in one take does like the most brilliant promo I've ever seen. And I was, uh, I was, I was, I was mesmerized. So that's, that's my Bob Costa story in person. But we have Eagles news to discuss today.

And we have, yes. Big Eagles news news. Yes. Hit us with a Stone Cold Newsman. Yes. So Philadelphia Eagles have announced. their reporting date for training camp. Okay, the Eagles want to talk about an A1 headline on a Monday.

Ooh, baby, here we go. The Eagles will report the training camp on July 23rd, Tuesday, July 23rd. That is five weeks from tomorrow. Okay. So it's coming up. Okay. That means the Eagles will practice, presumably for the first time. That's too soon, don't you think?

It's never too soon. It's never too soon. the clickety clack of the um clickety clack of well you don't hear this anymore but my the sound that i associate with we don't get much clickly clack these days i associate with training camp and you probably do too anyone who had has covered training camp at lehigh university the sound of them coming out of the field house onto the field they have the clickety clack of the cleats on and that's that's what i associate what a poet that's what i I associate if I can make Bob Costas proud.

So July 24th, they will be out there, presumably for the first day of training camp. Also, if you want to watch the Eagles at training camp and you're not one of the selected guests invited at the NovaCare Complex, there's only one date when you can do it. That date is Thursday, August 1st at 6.30 p.m. at Lincoln Financial Field. Tickets for that, as well as all the Eagles home games go on. sale tomorrow at 10 a.m. The tickets for the public practice goes to the Eagles Altism Foundation, I believe, or I should say the proceeds go to the Eagles Autism Foundation. The tickets for the rest of the games go to the fellow of Eagles organization. But yes, so that's just just some dates now. It can allow us to give a countdown starting tomorrow to when the players report

to camp. How do you feel about the general evolution or devolution, I guess, of, you know, it used to be all open practices at Lehigh. Yeah. And then you, you know, they move it to Philadelphia, which makes sense. But they start, it's like, like, we're going to have like four open practices. Yeah. And then it's just whittles down, whittles down. And now it's just one.

Well, for the fans, I don't like it, right? Like, that's, that's obvious. For, you said it, it makes sense to have practice at, I, at your team facility. All your stuff is there. I understand. And stuff. romanticism, the nostalgia of being on a college campus, Andy Reid still does it. But logistically, when, yeah, like you said, when you can just consider the working conditions that you get there,

even what we know now about like the quality of sleep and things of that nature, recovery, being in a hotel room compared to like a college dorm room, staying on a dorm bed, there's a difference there. Having your food as opposed to being in, the cafeteria, even if you bring in your chefs, being in a, having your weight room as opposed to a college weight room, right? It's, it's just better. I wish there were a way that more people could watch practice at Lincoln Financial Field. The giants, I'm sorry, at the NovaCare Complex. The Giants, for instance, their practice facility is right outside there, it's outside the stadium, so there's parking lot surrounding it. So what they do is like you can, there's people who can come and

watch their practices there. Same thing for the Patriots. So you can be in your facility and people can watch just given the fact that Eagles practice facility is essentially in a South Philadelphia neighborhood. There's like neighborhood zoning. Exactly. Yeah. And so there's rules about how many people they can have physically at the practice facility. There's actually a book coming out that that gets into the importance of the building, the construction of the practice facility. That's coming out September 24th. It's called the franchise. I, another shameless promotion. We're going to get at least one.

Yeah. So, yeah, so I get that. Now, you could say, yeah, but the stadiums across the street, they can hold three practices there. The actual flow of practice is not as good for them when you're confined to one field compared to when you have three fields. So when you're at the practice facility, there's three fields there. They can have the offense on one field, defense on another field. They can have the old alignment over here, defense alignment over there. When they're at the Lincoln Financial Field, that practice, they can't do it.

It's essentially like a scrimmage, a watered-down scrimmage. So, yeah, it sucks for the fans because there's a lot of people who might be in this chat now, who might be watching the replay, who might be listening to this, who grew up going to Eagles practices at Lehigh or even Westchester. And I get it, like tickets to football games. are expensive, right? I'm, I'm, I'm fortunate, like, I get to go for work, uh, but I'm, I'm taking read to the Phillies game tonight. Like, it's, it's really expensive to go to a game. Training camp, when it's free to go to, um, you know, when it's free to attend, it's great for families. Uh,

so it sucks. I, I get it. But if you're talking about like the quality of a training camp practice, I understand it. I just wish there was a way more people could watch them at the NovaCare complex. There you go. All right. So the conceit of the show today, Zach, this is a good idea by you. We've spent a lot of time talking about, you know, the who's going to be wide receiver three? Is it going to be Paris Campbell? Is Johnny Wilson or Ania Smith going to step into that role? We know that you never thought it was going to be Devante Parker, but that has passed us by.

Yes. That's the number three. No, I did not. And, you know, we did the exercise last week of going through the depth on this team. And it sort of played out that on offense, it really does seem like they are top heavy. and star power laden, but depth is a question, especially for the weapons. And on defense, it's the opposite, right?

Like there's more depth and maybe less oop at the top. So let's look at every roster in the NFL, and would you trade essentially the entirety of the roster that you have at running back wide receiver and tight end for any of these other teams, right? And we're taking the quarterback out of it. We're taking the scheme out of it, all of that stuff. And this is also for just for 2024. So from a roster building standpoint, how has Howie Roseman done compared to the rest of the league?

We worked our way through it. We ranked, I think we both ranked top 15, but we're going to talk about our top tens here. It felt to me, I don't know how you felt, that like 15 or 16 teams would be like, okay, they've done a good enough job. They've like, they've cleared the bar of I feel okay about our weapons. And some of them are just like a little garbons. I mean, what are the bills doing? But what was your sort of process to go through this?

Yeah. So what I did was so I have a spreadsheet in front of me. And I went through the wide receivers running backs, tight ends of teams that I thought could conceivably be in my top 10. And I came up with 16 teams. So that's, that's half to have to league there. Now, interestingly, there's one team I didn't have that that you liked and we'll get into that. And then from there, I wrote down the top two receivers, the options for number three, because that shows you the depth, the options at running back because that shows you

the running back depth, the options at tight end. So what mattered most to you when you were ranking? Star power mattered most to me, top heavy. Because I feel like, yeah, depth is important, but how many guys, this might seem simplistic. How many guys would you draft for a fantasy football team, right? You know, let's take the example of if you're drafting from the Eagles, you're probably not drafting Parrish Campbell, unless it's like a really deep league.

But you might be drafting Rahim Oster and Devon A. I'm sorry, Devon A.ching, the two running backs from Miami. So, like, I consider, like, players who you consider high caliber, starters and then blue chip players obviously giving an edge to that and that's what made Minnesota harder for me to grade because similar to the Eagles there's more high quality players there less depth the challenge for me and I and you outlined it well was taking the quarterback out of it so the example I would give there is Kansas City that that offense makes so much sense when you have Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid with Xavier Worthy now and Hollywood

with Brown like these two elite deep threats or pretend you know these these two real fast receivers Travis Kelsey at at at at tight end um you know reshreau rice but then if you say all right if you put a mid-level quarterback and a mid-level coach with with that system how are they whereas in Philadelphia if you put a mid-level quarterback and a mid-level coach with a j brown Devante Smith, Sequin Barclay, Dallas Goddard, you'd feel real good about your weapons, right? Sure. So that's, that, that was a challenge for me.

Yeah, I mean, I had Kansas City at like 15. Yeah, and I actually had Kansas City in my top 10, and then I had to shuffle it around because I had to kind of remove myself from that. So it was a fun exercise there. And I will also say, like, I said this at the top, the impetus of this was T. Higgins going back to Cincinnati. And I've always said, like, the Eagles said the best receiver combination, although Cincinnati and Miami might say otherwise.

and then when you look at like the totality of Cincinnati's weapons now some beat reporters for San Francisco might say otherwise as well yeah yeah uh true but then when you look at the totality of Cincinnati's weapons you look at their third wide receiver coach Flynn I'm sorry because you know we are fans of Andre Yosebos here on this show yeah but they're much their depth is much better than the Eagles you think so yeah Irwin and Burton I mean you're not germane burton I'm not a Remain Burton guy, but I'm a Yosevash guy. And the rest of, yeah, like I would take, I would take their... You can't take Yosefaz over like Paris Campbell right now, can you?

I think I would, yes. Taking the coach Flynn part out of it. I think I would. I mean, really. I know that Paris Campbell has proven that he can't be a difference-making player. He has a 60-catch season. Okay. But then they're running backs are Zach Moss and Chase Brown and tight ends Mike Jaseki.

Like, so when you look at the totality of the weapons, top heavy, but they don't have the depth at some of these other spots. So the exercise actually, this was a fun exercise to do. And it proved more difficult for me than I anticipated. All right. Yeah, I would say for me, you know, wide receiver matters most. Do you have at least two or three guys, you know, like running back, it's a nice to have and maybe a tiebreaker, but I'm not, I am not moving the needle based on who your top running back is. That's just the NFL. But there are exceptions there. Like San Francisco.

Sure. Yeah. On the margins, it changes things. I mean, to me, but like Christian McCaffrey changes things in a significant way. You know, I don't want to put the cart before the horse here or I don't want to tease too much of it. Saquan is a big part of how I view the Eagles. Aaron Jones is a big part of how I view the Vikings.

You love old running back. huh? I really like running backs who can who can be difference makers in the passing game. Okay. Right? I think Aaron Jones can be a difference maker in the past. Like to me. All right, well, let's get to it.

So this, by the way, this, and that's also why this is really constructive, because it might be a rationalization from the Eagles. But when we talk about Sequin getting paid less than a third receiver, who would you rather have? Sequin Barclay or Darnell Mooney, right? Like, it's like Sequin Barclay moves the needle for me more here than Darnell Mooney does in Atlanta. Yeah, I mean, maybe, but that's not really the same thing. Like I would rather have, if you've got a better running back, but I've got slightly better wide receivers, I would rather have the slightly better wide receivers.

How much are you weighing the third receiver in there? Like, I really factor in the top. I'm just saying. Okay. Okay. Well, let's get, let's get to it. Tell me who your number 10 is. Let's build some suspense as we work our way up the board.

Yeah, my number 10 here is the Detroit Lions. Interesting. I have the Detroit Lions at number six. Okay. All right. So that's fun. And now. Let's talk about the Lions.

Let's talk about the Lions. David Montgomery and Jamir Gibbs at Running Back. Amon Ra, Amon Ra, St. Brown, Jameson Williams, Caliph, Raymond Freeman, and then some, you know, and Donovan Peoples Jones, Antoine Green, at Wider. receiver. So not a ton of depth there. And then Sam Laporta and Brock Wright at tight end. I had them a little higher than you did because like you want to talk about the passing game like the the juice of Jemir Gibbs. I think does make a difference here. Now like I would much rather have Jemir Gibbs than Aaron Jones. Yeah, me too. Okay. Yeah. Well, I wouldn't say much rather. But yeah, I would rather have running back.

Yeah, I would rather have. Jameson Williams made this hard. Like I really like Jameson Williams. I'd love them coming out. Probably a little too high on TV. Yeah, I mean, and I'm the sucker in, you know, fantasy leagues where the head coach is like, this guy, you know, this guy's about to have a breakout year. So you hear Dan Campbell say that. And, I mean, spring training, I can't tell you if my baseball teams would be better out of year. I would be a little too high here. Okay. Six.

But that's the thing. So, so I said this to Bo in the, are we calling it the green room? What are we call? The office? Sure. So call it the green room. It's fine. Yeah, the green room.

I said, I didn't have a hard time with my top four here. After that, it was wide open. Like, I can make an argument. There are teams I don't have ranked that if you said they're the sixth team. I would say, yes, I could make that justification, right? Yeah, I had a clear top five. Okay. You had a clear top five.

I found it a little bit difficult to wade through the rest of it. But I actually feel good about like six through 11. Interesting. And then there's a little bit of a drop to like 12 through 15. Okay. So tell me, well, I guess you don't need to say why you don't like Detroit at 10, but. It's a good. Yeah.

So the challenge, the reason they're not higher for me is because after St. Brown, who's proven to be one of the best receivers in the league, I see in the chat, someone says St. Brown's overrated. It's a longtime listener, Roe hit for a Verma, right? Am I pronouncing it correctly? Roe hit verma? Well, I'm not him, but that sounds about right. Okay, you're better on pronunciations than I am.

I might have Roheet? Roheat. I know he's corrected us on this before, so you're probably correct. I appreciate you watching. I don't think St. Brown's overrated. I think St. Brown's a really good player. I like Jameson Williams, but I have a hard time with Jameson and Clef Raymond and Donovan and People's Jones

when there are other teams here who their top two receivers are like clearly entrenched as like among the best duo in the league. That said, and this goes to the point that I've said, if you look at it, not in terms of wide receiver one, right or zero two, but skill position player,

like Sam Leporta, you can make an argument top three tight end in the league, right? If you say he's your second pass catcher, he's your wide receiver too, it might change the calculation. It is RoeHitt. It is RoHit. I appreciate you watching.

Number 10 for me, Zach, is the team you talked about before, the Minnesota Vikings. Okay. So Aaron Jones, Ty Chandler, obviously the star power at the top of Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, Brendan Powell, Jalen Naylor, Trent Sherfield, and then you go to tight end, Tjahawkinson, Robert Tunyon, Josh Oliver. I would not have had them in the top 10 if it weren't for Justin Jefferson, obviously.

I was very on the fence with the Jets at 11. And I was kind of like I prefer the entirety of the team. Jets, but I got to respect Justin Jefferson, and he alone makes them number 10 for me. Yeah. So should I say we're the Vikings? I have the Vikings seventh. You have them seventh. You like the star power.

I like the star power. Hawkinson now, the issue here, Hawkinson is coming off a major injury, right? But when Hawkinson's out there, he's. When Hawkinson's Hawkinson, he's Hawkinson. Yes. And then you have Aaron Jones catching, you have Aaron Jones catching the ball. I liked what I saw from Addison last year. Okay. I think that, yeah, and then Jefferson is elite. And so I give the edge to E2 elite here.

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I'm kind of on my fly here. I might be changing some, right? I know. I'm a little, I feel like I'm regretting having Detroit a little bit too high. Yeah, and I'm regretting. I think I need to have the Rams higher up here. Maybe not.

You have the Rams number nine? No, I don't have the Rams in my top 10, but they should have them in my time. I have the Rams number nine. Okay. I have the New York Jets number nine. Okay. As I told you, I had them 11s.

Okay. Yeah, so I'm going to say, I have the Rams 11 here. So let's just say, okay. So I don't feel as guilty there. Garrett Wilson, Mike Williams. And again, there's some projection here with Mike Williams because he's coming off injury. But at his high watermark, he's been a really productive player. There's some Malachi, I'm sorry, some Malachi,

Malachi Corley. Everywhere I got, I've been walking around all weekend. People keep stopping me and they're saying, hey, Bo, what do you think about this Malachi Corley situation? Yeah, people are like him. Malachi Corley. Now, I'm probably overweighting the running back here, but I'm a big priest.

Gibson, Alan Lazars. I'm a big Breece Hall guy. Okay. And you're a big Breland Allen guy too. Big Brown Allen guy. And Brown Allen is a big Brown Allen guy. I mean, you're talking about one of the big. I think he's the youngest guy in this draft as well.

So he should be a big Bo Allen. a big Bo Wolf guy. I'm Bo Wolf. You're Bo Wolf. Yep. Bo Allen, probably a big fan too. Yep, Wisconsin and a BAE and a BAE.

Allen. That's true. Yep, that's true. Tyler Conklin at Tident, who gets the nod over C.J. Azuma. You know what? Had they drafted Brock Bowers in the first round, this would have gone way up for me.

Oh, God. But no. Look, I really like Garrett Wilson. I think Garrett Wilson's going to be awesome this year with Aaron Rogers. But again, you're taking the quarterback out of it. For two quarters? Well, that's the thing. Garrett Wilson's been really productive the past two years without good quarterback play there.

I like Mike Williams. Corley, I think Corley is an interesting piece, and especially when he's your third receiver. And then I think Bruce Hall, I talk about I like backs who can catch the ball. That's what Bruce Hall can do. Yeah, I like the Jets. I this is it's a very good group I kind of I kind of do prefer them to the Viking so I had a 10 but I went with Justin Jefferson breaking a tie so I have the I do have the Rams at 9 just on the

strength of the combination of Cooper Cup and Pooka Nakua oh yeah now Cooper Cup is 31 right and so and coming off injury yeah coming off injury so maybe you are right to have them out of the top 10 and maybe I am influenced but you know would Pooka Nakua have had such a good year for a different team without Stafford and McVeigh. I've always liked Kairn Williams, Boston Scott, obviously.

DeMarcus Robinson, 2-2-atwell, Jordan Whittington, Tyler Higbee, Colby Parkinson. As I read it out, I feel like maybe they do belong

just on the outside of the top 10. Maybe I would go Jets over them. I didn't quite understand that Colby Parkinson money that the Rams gave out. You don't expect that take on the show? No, I didn't. I appreciate that.

I don't know that Colby Parkinson's. and understood it probably put some money. I mean, this is, this is, this is one of those things where it's similar to the, Mahomes, Andy Reid conversation, like, am I giving that? Now, now, Puka made those catches, right? And Cooper Cups been productive for a long time. How much of it's a function of that Sean McVeigh system? I don't have a good answer for you there.

Obviously, and then, you know, Matthew Stafford's a really good quarterback. But I probably, they should be in my top 10. I weighed them down a bit based on the offense that they're in. All right. Who do you got at number eight? Number eight. And this might be a difference of opinion between the two of us. I have the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Wow. Yes. Not even in my top 15. They're number 16 for them. All right. So then let me sell you on this. Okay. Jags.

The Jags. They go out and they sign Gabe Davis. Okay. You know, I mean, I invented Gabe Davis. Yeah. I like Gabe Davis. They draft Ryan Thomas in the first round. Ryan Thomas.

receiver we both like Christian Kirk is like a productive why he's he's shown he's as your number two number three really productive I mean Devin Duverne I like that signing he gives you wide receiver depth there I mean if did Devereux if if Devereux if Devereux was the number three receiver for the Eagles I will call that an upgrade I like Duverne really like uh leon de Duvene de Verne I really like ETN uh the running back not the Eagles television network which no longer exists. But they do a great job, though.

Thank you. Yeah. And then Evan Ingram's proven to be a really... Of course you love them. But he's proven to be a productive tight end. Yeah. So I think they have a good group of offensive weapons there. And the Brian Thomas pick, again, like I'm probably there's projection there.

I like Thomas coming out. And when you put Thomas with Gabe Davis and Christian Kirk, I think it makes a lot of sense in that group. That's a good, like it is a good, uh, group of depth, but there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no ace, sure, right? Um, and there's no, none of those weapons is a true. Yeah. Ace, that's true.

If it were, right. I mean, two wide receivers who were overpaid in free agency gave Davis from Christian care. Right. Yeah. Um, so that's why, that's why they would not have been, uh, in my top 10 and weren't in my top 10. My number eight, Zach is the Seattle Seahawks. Uh, do you have the Seahawks in your top 10?

I do not. Really, but they were, I do like those. weapons for sure i mean i feel like the seahawks are in are in pretty good shape here you're right you know know kenny walker's x sharpening is a pretty good duo of running backs no a fan is not going to knock your knees off as a tight end but first round pick done but d k metcalf jackson smith and jigba tyler locket even your boy leviska shenulton and uh d s gridge down the depth chart that's good good i love i love i love i mean both running backs both running backs are good i love metcalf and i feel like even if if locket is a little bit declining you've got smith and jigba on the come i feel i would

feel pretty good about having the seahawks weapons you know what covered me convinced uh they should be on here they should be on here i i like you don't have to sell me on smith on on on on on smith and jigba a two-headed backfield of kenneth walker zach charbonnet obviously dk big dk fans that uh tyler locket is is coming down but tyler locket plays plays well and you got Leviska-Chanal. And again, we're not factoring on offensive systems. I think this is offensive. It's going to be better with Ryan Grubb.

I like Grubb's offense a lot at Washington. So we know that your seven is Minnesota. My six is Detroit. I am guessing that my seven is your six. Probably not because you're going to say, wow, about my six, maybe. Okay. My seven is the Chicago Bears. They're my five.

Really? Mm-hmm. Okay. The Chicago Bears, I mean, boy, had they done a good job. just from a weapon standpoint, I don't know that they have done a good job roster building over the course of the last few years, but Caleb Williams coming in and getting a chance,

I mean, he's got to be in better shape in terms of weapons than any recent high-drafted quarterback, right? DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, Roma Dunzei, with Tyler Scott and Vilas Jones. I mean, this is the same think tank that drafted Vilas Jones in the third round, so let's not give him too much credit.

but DeAndre Swift, overpaid, but that's fine. Rocheon Johnson, Khalil Herbert, and then Cole Komet and Gerald Everett. That's a lot of

high quality players and depth spread it out. It's a really nice group. And I actually, I would not argue so much with you having them even higher number five. I love Keenan Allen,

love DJ more from that way. And then Adonze was, I think I was a bit high, on him in the draft. Yeah. John Drey Swift, I like him. I think that they paid him a bit much there,

but we're not looking at contracts here. Yeah, Cole Comette. That is a good group. And if Caleb Williams is who I think, then that's why I have them in, well, I think this can be a really good offense, but I think the three receivers are why I have them, number five. Real quick, did you see the clip behind the scenes?

clip of the Falcons and Bears on the clock over the weekend. No, but I saw that there was an offer of a future fourth to move up one spot. Yes. Similar to what they, what are they doing. Similar to what the Eagles did with the bears a year ago, don't sure that they could get John Carter. Right. Right. What's Atlanta? Very stupid on both sides. No, I mean, I get it from, like at the time, you don't know that the, I get it from from Chicago because you didn't know the Falcons, we're going to take a quarterback. That's a spot where a team could, you know, there was rumored that the Bears like the Dunseh.

A team could jump them similar to what Howie did when they wanted Jalen Carter. They gave up a fourth just so they can ensure that they drafted him. If you're Atlanta, clearly Chicago's not trading up to get a quarterback. Absolutely wild.

Yeah. They're not trading. They're not going to trade for that pick and then turn around and trade for someone who wants a quarterback. Yeah. I mean, I think that Arthur Blanks probably should have fired.

Scott Fitterer. is it that's not no no no it's terry font yeah why am i thinking scott fitter he was with carolina before it's it's it's it's it's terry fond he should have fired him on the spot i mean and and not just that to turn that down you know it's a free pick and besides of like besides the free pick part of it you're going to get your quarterback for a little bit less one spot later like like financially absolutely because it's it's it's slotted so you're probably saved you know if you talk about the contract value of a quarterback on you know you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're saving, I don't know what the exact,

Zach, the exact number is, but over a million. Oh, read. Thanks, buddy. Fantastic. Appreciate you watching, man. Absolutely wild that they would, that they would turn that down. Yeah.

It'd be futile. I also do think it was silly for Chicago to even offer that, but. But did you think it was silly for the, for the Eagles to do it with Jeline Carter? Uh, a year ago. I mean, silly is maybe it's a little, it's a little bit different. Well, I know, but it's sure known trades together.

I know. I understand why you. do it. I'm not mansplaining you the situation. I'm explaining the justification. I know you know that, but this is, yeah, okay. So who do you have at six then? At six, Marissa, I love you, Marissa, the Cleveland Brown. Really? Yes. I have them at 14. Okay. That's what that's why this is one in there. Who are you not going to have in your, there's, there's probably an omission that's, that's not good here. Interesting. Okay. Yeah, I apologize if there's no mission here. We'll get to that. And I will update it because we are kind of workshopping this together.

I think Amari Cooper is a stud. I think Amarri Cooper is a legit number one. I don't think he's like a number two. I think he's a number one. He showed that last year. He's not a one A. I think Amarri Cooper's a one A. I think Amar Cooper's awesome.

Wow. Cleveland at six. You trade for Jerry Judy. Okay. I like a Jerry Judy. Okay. Just because he was the first round pick. Elijah Moore.

Okay. Nick Chubb. I know Nick Chubb. coming off a major injury. Nick Chubb is awesome running back. You got David and Joku at tight end. Yeah, these are a lot of guys that you specifically love. So again, Jerry Judy, by the way, never had a thousand yards season.

I know. Has had a six to catch season. He's at one 60-catch season for you. Okay. Yeah, this is probably a little too high. I admit it. This is too high. I say this on the spot.

I said going into this, there were four. I was confident in my top four. And then after my top four, I kind of felt like, I think I said if my number six was like 15, I wouldn't argue with that. And that's, I had a hard time ranking it after that. And that's why this is constructive. A matter of fact, I should probably come back tomorrow with my updated rankings after hawking it out with you.

But I like this wide receiver combo. I'm probably giving too much weight to Nick Chubb, but Nick Chubb's awesome. And then Enjoku really came on last year at tight end. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I think it's spicy, but good for you. We're trying to get some. Yeah, it's good.

It's June 17th. It's going to be 100 degrees out this week. Like, what we're trying to do is we're trying to, I don't want to say hot takes, but we're trying to get it. And look, Michael Dunn is blocking for these guys. Yeah, we have to divorce that. Divorce that, I know. Absolutely.

All right. So you have Chicago 5. My number 5 is the Cincinnati Bengals. I did not have them in my top 10. Really? That's the team I did not have. On purpose? I said this.

the top. I love their two wide receivers. After that, I was underwhelmed by the other. I'm looking at the totality of it. I'm saying who are the five guys that you're throwing out there. I know, but you're basically going, who are your two best receivers? I'm not doing that. And that's, that's, that's, that's, that's not what I'm doing. That's, that's, that's why I have differences than, than you in the back end of the top. A big josecchi guy? I think Jemar Chase is, is, is probably the second best receiver in the NFL. and that carries a lot of weight.

Yeah, I mean, he's in the top. Sure. You know, he's a difference maker. You know, Zach Moss, Chase Brown, that's underwhelming, but it's running back. I think their wide receiver depth is better than the Eagles. With, like, Jermaine Burden and Yosevash and Tretton Irwin, Giske doesn't move the needle for me at Todd.

Higgins, I'm like not super, super high on Higgins. Going back to the draft, that's the case. And maybe I, that's not. true. There's documentation of this. You said he was J.J. Arthago Whiteside. No. Zach?

You're making me pull a Zach here. I said that I didn't like the fit with the Eagles because they had just drafted J.J.Rthago White Side and he was a similar type of player. You did say that. I said that. I said I liked him more than I expected. Okay. And he seems like a good prospect. I didn't like him for the Eagles.

You did say that. As I said, go good at this. I thought Cincinnati was going to be my... Can't trust a word you said. I thought Cincinnati was going to be in my top five. I think I might have them a little too high. They should be my top ten. They should be my top ten. Claire, you're right.

I'd rather have, I'd rather have Cincinnati than the Rams, although you didn't even have the Rams in your top ten. I would rather have Cincinnati than Cleveland. I admit that. Cleveland's my six. You just say Cleveland's my six? Because this is the thing.

I'm looking at the overall. I'm not waiting. Well, I know, but certain things matter more. Well, that's where I messed up, or I shouldn't say messed up. I have wide receiver one wide receiver two running back tight end

and I'm looking at the overall We're presenting this as our as our rankings And both of us are being like Yeah I didn't do a good enough job here Yeah This was the challenge I had I was sitting there at a coffee shop this morning Going through all this

And I wanted to I went into this thinking Cincinnati Like as you can see Before I even put the depth charts down I put the teams that I thought were the top Minnesota, Cincinnati, Houston. I put Cincinnati, too, because I thought they were going to be there. And then as I'm looking at it, I'm like, these are the running backs?

This is the tight end? This is interesting, Zach, though, because it means that we have the same top four, which I guess is not a huge surprise. I'm curious to see how we order them. But before we do that, let's talk about our friends at Bet Park's Sportsbook, because today's episode is brought to you by the Bet Park's Sportsbook app. Get in the zone with the Bet Park Sportsbook app. The money is in the moments.

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Our top four, I imagine we have the same group of teams here. I wonder what the order will look like. My number four, Zach, and I really, really considered having them over the Eagles. Mm-hmm. And even now, I kind of still want to push him ahead. And that is the Houston, Texas. Yep, my number four as well.

Stefan Diggs, Nico Collins, Tank Dell. And what is really, what I really appreciate about this is also Noah Brown, Robert Woods, John Menchie, the third, your boy. That is so deep. And it is in direct contrast. to the Eagles. Obviously, I would rather have A.J. Brown and Devante Smith

than any two of those Houston Texans receivers. I think I'm a little bit skittish of how much was C.J. Stroud doing the heavy lifting for Nico Collins and Tank Dell. Joe Mix and Damien Pierce. I would rather have Sequin Barkley.

Dalton Schultz. Probably not quite as good as Dallas Gondert, but Dallas Gondert has had trouble staying healthy. I would rather have the Texas group of wide receivers probably and I guess the Eagles other positions move it ahead for me. It's a coin flip. If you're guaranteeing me health, obviously I would rather have the Eagles, but I feel like the Texans are in.

They have created a roster that answers more questions if injuries happen than the Eagles have. Well said. I don't need to echo way or I don't need to just say in a different way. you just said what jumps out to me here is the depth. That if you're talking about strength and numbers, I mean, they are top-heavy. Like Diggs has proven me one of the most productive receivers in the NFL. But like you mentioned, going six-deep or five-deep, a wide receiver also makes them a good trade candidate. We both like Damien Pierce in the past. Now he's your second back behind Joe Mixon.

Devin Singletary had a good year last year, but I've always liked Joe Mixon as a runner. I think Dalton Schultz is underrated as a tight end. So I think there's a good group here, and that's why they're my number four. All right. Who do you have at number three? Number three, I have your Philadelphia Eagles. Interesting. I thought you might have them higher.

I originally went into this thinking they were number one. I also have them at number three. Okay. I went in this thinking they were number one. And because, look, I think we can just sort of unpack who's two and who's one. And then let's talk about it. Yes. Okay.

I have Miami two in San Francisco one. I have Miami two in San Francisco one. Interesting. Okay, so we have the same top four. And by the way, Bo and I did this independently. Independently. I think that's pretty clear with your, you know, Cleveland at six. Yep.

Jeez, I'm never going to let that down. San Francisco, I was actually like, I didn't want to have them a number one. No, me neither. And I am a little bit bearish on their prospects this season. Like, you know, they, they had the long mall to the Super Hall to the Super Bowl. Like, Caffrey had all those touches, you know, Debo takes all these hits, but I would, again, I would rather have A.J. Brown and Devante Smith than

Debo Samuel and Brandon Ayuk. But after that, you know, Joanne Jennings has proven that he can be a real player. Yep. Ricky Pearsall, not my favorite prospect of the draft. I wouldn't have drafted him in the first round, but he's, we're still talking about a day two caliber player. Even like Jacob Cowing is a guy that I like. Yep. George Kittle, Dallas Goddard is, you know, you'd probably rather have Kittled just a little bit. But you'd definitely rather have Kittle. A lot, but he's also, he's also injury prone. Sure. It's that moves in the last. a little bit. And yeah, like Christian McAfrey is better than Sequin Barclay. And they've also got Elijah Mitchell. Yep. Vince's boy, Isaac Garrendo. Like it's a, it is a deeper group. And that's why

I think you have to have them ahead. And then Miami, Tyree killed Jalen Waddle. Very comparable, I think, to AJ Brown, Devonte Smith, obviously different types of players. But I think you could, you could argue either way. And their depth is better. You know, Odell Beckham. Even like Braxton Berrios is just like a better version of Britain Covey. I like Malik Washington. Their running back position is deeper. I would rather have Goddard than Jono Smith. Yeah.

But Johnno is an upgrade there at Tide end, I think. For what they had before. Yeah, they had Dalton Smyth and now he's here number two. Right. Durham. I'm sorry, Durham, Smite. Yeah. He might as well be Dalton Smyth.

He doesn't need to have you know his first name. D. Smyth. D. Smyth. Yes. So that's why I have it that way. Yeah, good point. I love Miami's options. I made a point.

A.C. And Mostert. And then Jalen Wright at running back. Right. So they just have so many players there. And again, both these situations, we say we're going to take away the offensive system. Like, I imagine San Francisco and Miami to a certain extent, they're buttressed by that offensive system. That said, Tyree Kiel would be great wherever he is. Jalen Waddle, I think Jailen Waddle is a really good player.

A-Chane's really fast. Like, is the system has something to do with it? Yeah, but he was that dynamic play. coming out of Texas A&M. And then when you talk about San Francisco, if you're just looking at blue chip players on this list, Christian McCaffrey is one of the blue chip players on this list. If there's 10 of them,

Christian McCaffrey's one of them. And what he does in the passing game, when he does it in the running game. Ricky Pearsall, neither one of us loves him in the draft, but you're still talking about one of, you know, you're still talking about a first round pick, even if he was overdrafted. He's a quality, he would be the number three receiver on the Eagles.

I actually think Juan Jennings, like you said, will be the number three receiver on the Eagles. He's their fourth receiver here. So, yeah, the overall depth is why I give it. And interestingly, I went into this exercise thinking I was going to take the Eagles number one because Devonte, A.J. Sequin, Dallas. That might be the best four in this group.

Yeah. And that's what's interesting, right? Like if you were, let's just take these four teams, San Francisco, Miami, Philadelphia, Houston. If you were just drafting the players, from those teams. Who would you, like, it probably, it probably goes Tyrakeel one, then A.J. Brown 2?

Yep, that's all I would do it. Right? Mm-hmm. And then, I mean, Devonte Smith is not coming off the board that much later. Yeah, I would probably go McAfree three, but yeah. Interesting. Okay. Yeah.

I mean, and then it comes down to preference, I guess, on Waddle-Dibo, Ayuk, and Devante. I think Devante is over all of the Houston guys. Mm-hmm. I agree. Over Diggs as well? I think so. Okay. at this point.

But then, like these other three teams, you would take their fourth or fifth or even sixth receivers in some cases over what the Eagles have at number three. I don't know. It's an interesting reflection of the way that the roster is built. Yeah. And that's why development for the Eagles depth,

like this conversation is totally different. If Paris Campbell looks like the Paris Campbell was a second round pick and a 60 catch player two years ago, this conversation is totally different. If Johnny Wilson comes on the scene, and is like... Kooka Kua. I mean, that's ambitious,

but you know what I mean? If he's like a 30, 40 catch guy, if the Eagles make a trade for a third wide receiver, that instantly changes things, right? That if it's like a video game where the overall rating goes up quite a bit, um,

you know, if Will Shipley is a solid, you know, number two running back, right? I don't think that changes much. All right, but I'm saying like, yeah,

yeah, like Elijah Mitchell and, whether it's A-Chane or Moster, that's better than what the Eagles don't have, let's say Gainwell's their second back. You're still taking the second back on Miami and San Francisco over the second back on the Eagles. So that's all a way of saying that I think depth is why I go with San Francisco

over Miami and Miami over the Eagles. But I also feel strongly that blue chip players matter. And the Eagles have three blue chip guys here, you still think Sequins a flu chip player and there's teams on this list you don't have any. Are there teams that jumped out to you as you did this

exercise in terms of oh maybe the Eagles could trade for one of their depth guys? Well, Houston, we've talked about that. Who would you trade for? Robert Woods or John Mechie? I would try to trade for John Mechie. Okay. Do you think they'd be more, they'd probably be more apt to trade Robert Woods?

I would imagine so, but yeah. Yeah, that's, now, had a pretty interesting one. Yeah, you know who is interesting in New England? Who like, they don't have any good receivers. Yep. Or definitely good receivers, but they have a lot of mediocre receivers. Kendrick Bourne, Demario Douglas, Jalen Polk, who they drafted, Javon

Baker, who they drafted, Juju Smith-Schuster, KJ Osborne, Tyquant Thornton. That's seven guys. They're not, I mean, they can't keep seven guys, right? So I don't know, would you be interested in trading for Juju? What a, what insult to injury for James Bradbury? Yeah, I mean, there's name appeal there, but he's been a good player. He's still young.

Could you get Kendrick Bourne? Would you trade for, like, does Tyquine Thornton move the needle? Probably not. But that's an interesting possibility. You know, we have talked about, we've bandied about the Panthers, like second and third round draft busts

and Mingo and Terrace Marshall Jr. Maybe one of those guys could get plucked free. Denver. Tim Patrick moved the needle for you. What about the chiefs? interesting like with sky more in a change of scenery situation and now you can say that would intrigue me if he hasn't clicked in kansas city is he going to click here right of course if he can right right i mean he had mahomes and and and he read but that's that's an that's an offense that added

hollywood brown and zavier worthy so players they've been working with near the top of the depth chart are now obviously lowered down there yeah that's an interesting one and then yeah i mean i guess that's about it who were Now, so you mentioned, we mentioned some of, like I said, I should have had Seattle higher. I'm curious some of these teams that I also considered, Baltimore and. Oh, I didn't have Baltimore in my top 15. You did not? Interesting.

No. Let's discuss that real quick. I don't know. I mean, I like Save Flowers, but. Okay. Rashad Bateman, Nelson Agilor, that's not moving the needle for me. Well, I mean, Mark Andrews is like a water chiefer, too. I was surprised at how much I like Tennessee.

I had Tennessee at 12. Yeah, that was the team. Okay, because. Ridley, Hopkins, Tyler Boyd is a good top. You know, Burks has not been good, but as a fourth receiver. A lot of old's there. You're not an old guy. Well, for one season.

True. Westbrook Kinney and even Kyle Phillips, like those are not terrible guys. Chico Concoe and then Tony Pollard, that's a fine. And Taijay Spears, that's a fine guys on the outside. That's fair. Do you know, I need to mention this team. I have Green Bay at 13. I was wondering about Green Bay.

I love a lot of young, like, upside. Yeah. Yeah, I was wondering about Green Bay. We'll see that week one. Atlanta was the team that I had a hard time to slide. I was expecting you at some point in the case for Atlanta. I mean, Kyle Pitts, you give me Kyle Pitts. Drake London, I like Drake London.

You add Darnell Mooney and Randell Moore to that mix. Those are, uh, that gives you legit speed there. Their backfield combination, obviously with Bijan and Alzir is really strong. Am I pronouncing it correctly? I think so. Okay. Uh, yeah, so that, that was one that I, I had thrown in the mix. And then, and like I said, I had a hard time slot in Kansas City.

because I couldn't divorce or I had to divorce my homes and Andy Reid from that. Well, I mean, you've found Emily. I've never divorced Emily. I love her. No, no, I think you've found Emily. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Rishie Rice, Hollywood Brown, Xavier Worthy, Sky Moore. Like, there's, you know, obviously Travis Kelsey, he's your number one receiver. There's a lot to like in Kansas City. I probably under... Would Buffalo be 32? Well, the wide receivers are underwhelming.

It's tough. Read off those water speakers. Keon Coleman, Curtis Samuel, Matt Collins, Marcus Valdez, gambling, Chase Claypool, KJ Hamler. Yeah, I mean, I still think New England's 32, but... Yeah, maybe, I guess so. As this overall group. Yeah.

Yeah. The Chargers are pretty bad. That's true, actually. Not tight end. Palmer, Quentin Johnson, Ladd-McConkey? Yeah, you're not a tight-end guy. Yeah. Yeah.

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