PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - PHLY Philadelphia Eagles: Kellen Moore the next Super Bowl coordinator on the way out?

Episode Date: January 29, 2025

As the Eagles prepare for Super Bowl LIX against the Chiefs, it looks like they may be set to lose another coordinator to a head coaching job with Kellen Moore reportedly the favorite to lead the Saints. Stay in N’Awlins, my man! Meanwhile, Jalen Hurts has escaped from his straight jacket and A.J. Brown, Saquon Barkley, DeVonta Smith, Dallas Goedert, Jalen Carter, Zack Baun, Quinyon Mitchell and Darius Slay prepare for their shot at immortality.Join Zach Berman, Rich Hofmann and Bo Wulf for the PHLY Eagles show as the game approaches. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello, everybody, and welcome to the P.HLY Eagles podcast on Wednesday afternoon. Bo Wolf, Rich Hoffman, Zach Berman, and it's presented by Bet365. Download the Bet365 app and use code. P.H.L.Y.365 when you sign up, whenever the moment, it's never ordinary. At Bet365, Rich, the Eagles are going to the Super Bowl. How you feeling? I'm doing great, Bo. They are going to the Super Bowl. It's always weird this week. You know, you come down off the high. A little anticlimactic. championship game and you know the eagles are they're going to flyers games they're going to

sixers games it's like a week off but still very excited plenty to talk about we're going to sort of go through our favorite potential storylines of this matchup there is some news on the eagles front but uh zach how are you holding up this week we haven't we haven't talked to enough eagles i think for your liking yet uh i'm well i'm excited for the show i'm excited for our coverage during the next week and a half and beyond that too but yeah i'm I'm kind of locked in. I have a lot of ideas. I have a lot of opinions.

And the good thing is we have no shortage of places to talk and write about them. What did Nicholas Siriani say yesterday? So Nick Siriani was not giving any details about the team's planning this week, about what the team's schedule is. Now, they're off today. And my understanding or my guess is that they'll practice on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. So Thursday, Friday, and Saturday will mimic what a Wednesday, Thursday, Friday is during the season. They will put in a lot of their game plan this week. Next year, I would not give what the percentage is.

But based on history, you typically have most of the work done this week. You know, this is the week that I've heard players say this. This is the week you win or lose the Super Bowl often is the week planning. No, see, to me, it's what happens in the game is when you win or lose it. Well, that too. Going out on a limb there, huh? That's just my opinion. But a few cool nuggets from Nick Siriani that I enjoyed listening to.

One being the, so the played the goal line that Washington was outraged about, Frankie Louvre timing the jump, and that was part of Washington's plan. And that Scott Hockley said they can award the touchdown. And fans hadn't heard of this rule. And Nick Sirian, he asked if he had heard of it. And the answer is yes. because when he was with the Chargers, the person who's now the game management,

or who last year was the game management coach for the Jets, they were having a conversation, and Nick asked a question along the lines of... Flash. Yes, right. He does have a name. I can tell you his exact name. No, let's just go with Flash.

Okay. And speaking of Flash, Zach, it's your turn. It's a Flash the audience. No, it's not. I was responding to some things about Friday show, or I'm sorry, Sunday's show. So in any event, Dan, his name's Dan Shamish, and he was in charge of game management with the Jets last year. And Nick was asking, or Nick was speaking him about, what if it's like for the end of the game, you're at the one yard line, could the defense just hold the receiver on every play, right?

Which makes sense. And he was told that you can, that they can award a touchdown. And Nick's like, no way. that can't happen. The guy's like, yeah, that's the rule. So after this game, Nick actually texted smash. Oh, smash. Smash.

About that. Like, hey, hey, you were right. I'm not going to ask you to smash on camera. Okay. Please don't. So that was interesting. I also thought, and this actually came up in your question, I believe, that they watched every peanut Tillman

No, this was to Rubin's question, I think, about forcing turnovers. They watched every peanut punch that Charles Tillman had. They put a reel together of all the peanut punches in his career. The coaches watched it, and the players watched it. And you see it come to fruition in the game. I thought that was pretty interesting insight. Peanut Tillman appreciated that when that was put out there on social media. There you go.

he's like secretly one of the most influential players in football over the past 20 years yeah i was getting messages he should be in the hall of fame is he hall fame caliber i don't know but maybe just because of of how influential his playing style was sure he should i mean morten anderson's in so really what's the bar we'll see about eric allen next week eric allen could be the eagle into the hall fame during uh super bowl week there you go um all right because we have not talked to the players uh we are going to still do our locker room report, but we're going to do it with the coaching staff, Zach. And this is our locker room report presented by ValleyForge.

ValleForge.org can help you discover hidden gems, endless activities, and tons of places to stay in Montcoe. Get started planning that next getaway today, valleyforge.org. Make it family time and make it Motko. And Zach, we get the, you know, you get the national reporters and, you know, someone's a leader for this job. It's trending this direction. looks like without any snags it might go this way

and that is that the Eagles may be losing another offensive coordinator. Yes, so it came out last night that Mike McCarthy is taking himself out of running for a job, for the Saints job. So do we know if it was McCarthy taking himself out or the Saints said no? It could have been that. It's a very important detail. It's a little bit. It's a little bit.

That was more the effect than the cause. Sure. So on Monday night, the Saints came in to South Jersey. Philly to meet with Kellynne Moore and that meeting went into Tuesday morning. Seems to have been one hell of a night. As Beau as is, I want to remind us. So now there are three. And then it also came out yesterday that Cliff Kingsbury's not pursuing jobs this year either.

And there was thought that Kingsbury could be a stealth candidate for the Saints job. So there are three remaining candidates. unless they reset their search. That's Kellan Moore, Anthony Weaver, and Mike Kafka. If they wanted to hire Anthony Weaver and Mike Kafka, now they could. Neither one's been hired. It really seems, if you're reading the T-Leaves, this is-Cellon-More's job. So there are...

And the reports are the things that they've been enamored with are his stamina and his eagerness to please. I have not heard those reports, no. He didn't miss a fourth-grade basketball game for that one. I did not hear hear those reports but Kellan Moore

in one year here I would say it's been a polarizing year you know this this hasn't necessarily been the offense that was expected when he when he came in I did think we can talk about this I thought he had his best game on Sunday in the conference championship but Kellyn Moore

is someone who we spoke about before he got here as he might not be here for long And I think I said before the season that Kelm Moore is going to be here for one year. Because I said if they win, he's going to get a job. Or if he does well, they're going to get a job. And if they lose, the Eagles are going to get fired. And I objected to that framing. Yeah.

Well, I did not see a scenario where the Eagles had the number one defense in the NFL. Yeah, exactly. I thought if the Eagles were really good, it was because they had this top five offense. Kellamore fixed jail and her, you know, so the sequence of the year did not go the way I thought. I could still get to the same end result. Yeah. But anyway, so what does this mean for Eagles fans? Well, a few things.

I know Denise and people have put together the parallels to Jonathan Gannon that he gets hired by the host city. Number one, the Eagles would have to give Jaylon Hertz's fourth offensive coordinator in four years. Also, as we talked about two years ago, even if the Eagles have a plan in place and that could be the fundamental difference here between him and Gannon, you're working with a limited pool of candidates relative. to if you're hiring an offensive coordinator one week into the playoffs like they did last year. Right. So you're missing out on all the quote unquote hot coordinators and you're either going for someone who is out of work or a college coach, typically. Or in-house.

Or in-house. Or in-house. How do you think that would, what do you think they would do? So if you're looking for the in-house candidate, the in-house candidate would be Kevin Patole, who I know they were interested in-house. potentially promoting two years ago. Brian Johnson was the natural successor for that job. Last year, they couldn't promote in house

after dismissing Brian Johnson. But Kevin Patuo is Nick Seriani's right-hand man. And he has a lot to do behind the scenes, but he also has not been the, he's not been an offensive coordinator in the NFL, right? So if the offensive coordinator experience matters, then that's something to keep in mind. If you're looking for the out-of-work coach,

I know a lot of people look for Frank Reich, who has experience with Nick Chiriani, who obviously, who has, who's well regarded in the building. And the other thing is Frank Reich has the Vic Fangio quality where you're probably not worried about losing him. If you want some degree of continuity,

I don't think Frank Rick's leaving for a head coaching job, right? But I don't know if Frank would have interest in the job and I don't know if the Eagles would have interest in Frank for that job. There is such an age of... Doug Peterson. ...baked into the, wow. There is such an ageism baked in to the head coaching hire. Are there any old offensive coordinators anymore?

That's why Frank Wright appeals to me. Just because, like, Vic Fangio and Steve Spagnolo, that's the guy you want, right? The guy who's already failed as a head coach and who's a defensive guy because those guys don't even get a sniff at the head coaching jobs. Yeah. That's the funny framing, right? You want like an 85-year-old grizzle defensive coordinator and you want a 19-year-old just like pipsqueak offensive coordinator.

Unbelievable. Now, and I have said this, and I've said this on a number of occasions, and Bo and I've had interesting back and forth about this. I would talk to Jeff Dallon for the job. But as Beau has pointed out, if it doesn't work, then you just lost your, the best offensive line coach in the league, right? Yeah. And that's an interesting one, though.

Yeah, I'm trying to think of the guys who were fired this cycle, if there's anybody interesting there. Guys who lost jobs, I don't know. I mean, I don't think. I think Press Taylor's walking through that door. Yeah. Do you think it depends on if they win or lose? Like, does Nick have more juice to get Petulow in the job?

Yeah, see, that's the thing, is that, like, it would be really hard for me to think that the Eagles watch the way that this season played out and then would want Nick to be more involved in the offense. Well, that end, and you do wonder, like, is, if it's the internal promotion, especially a loyal Nick lieutenant, does he go back to being Nick's offense, right? Right. That is a fair question. I know there are people talking about Bobby Sloick, who is out of work.

Now, that's a different type of scheme, number one, and number two, and we saw this with the Kingsbury conversation last year. You want to preserve what makes Jeff Stoutland great. You want to preserve the Eagles run game concepts, which is another interesting thing about Frank Reich, is worked with Jeff Stoutland, has that background with Jeff Stoutland as well. But if you just, yeah, you could in theory look at quarterback coaches. I know that you know this well.

You're the perfect person to have on because it's all in that big old encyclopedia of yours. Who are the people who the Eagles have already interviewed for offensive coordinator over the last two cycles who are potentially out there? Yeah, so I apologize on his name. Nate Skeel House. Thank you. Is that what it is Skeel House? I believe so. All right.

Well, I can say Skeel House. I was going to say Nate S. Nate S. The Nates. From Iowa State who was. was he was kind of like viewed as like the I don't like this framing like the Rooney Rule higher They framed him as a as a Rooney Rule

Yeah it's like the Rooney Rule higher But he got hired by the Rams He's worked under McVeigh He comes from that Matt Campbell tree Which uh who Siriani obviously knows well So that is that's a A name you might hear As far as other guys who the Eagles

talked to in the past. I mean, last year was the, was, it was really Kingsbury Moore. Who else? Gerard Johnson, who's the quarterback's coach

with the Texans. And they haven't made a, they haven't made a coordinator hire. He did interview for that job. Now he could also, I've heard Chip Kelly rumblings there as well. Oh my God. That would be,

I really would lose. Demico would become much less attractive in my mind. I mean, Chip Kelly has a lot of respect for Domingo Ryans, and I know that for sure. I feel like you were there for that. I was. Scott Turner. Scott Turner, correct?

So are we assuming? Did they interview Scott Turner last year? No, I'm just saying names. Sorry. We're also assuming Doug Nussmeyer is a package. So my guess is Doug Nussmeier follows, is that he would follow Kellyn Moore to New Orleans. First off, they've worked together going back a long way.

They followed each other place to place. From Doug, I mean, personally for Doug Nussmeier, he would be an hour from his son, who's the starting quarterback at LSU next year, if he's the OC with the Saints. So I would expect Doug Nossmeier to follow Kellenmore. Isn't the best offensive coordinator of football available, potentially? Who are you referring to?

Clint Kubiak, those first two weeks. No, the greatest show on term. The quarterback got hired by Seattle. Actually, the guy who I would be interesting. Smart hired by them. I look, I'm pro Shioquodia here with this. I like Ryan Grubb. I watched some of the Seattle's offense this year.

Yeah, I like him too. And I didn't think like he was, he was problematic when I saw the, when I read the reports about why he was fired, it was because he was too aggressive. He didn't run the ball enough when they had to lead. It feels like honestly a good pairing with Stout. Yeah, exactly. If there's someone else you can trust with the running game and you're looking for someone to just scheme up some cool stuff in a passing game. Yeah, that sounds good to me. Yeah.

So, yeah, you think about that. G.J. Kinney. Josh McCown. DJ King just got a big deal, but yeah, Josh McCown. You could look at the college ranks. Yeah. I do think they would be interested in established play call, you know, in someone who has experienced calling plays,

is my guess. I wonder how much they would pay attention to continuity. Last year was kind of, for lack of better term, like in all hands-on-deck situation. You were trying to keep, I mean, you were trying to keep your job. You wanted the best coordinator possible. Once, if you make the Super Bowl or you win the Super Bowl,

there's a degree of clout that we just said Nick Siriani has, that maybe you're not just going for the guy. You could look more of the up-and-coming higher. I don't know the direction they would go. It's interesting. I just love the idea of Nussmeyer. With all those things you said, Zach, that he's worked with Kellynne Moore for forever.

They're very good friends. His son is playing at LSU. It's right down the road. He looks at it, and then he looks at Derek Carr versus this Eagles offense and says, I think I'll take the job here. He's only going to be there one more year, my son. Like, who knows where he's going to.

you on the NFL. Sure. Yeah, it's interesting. And also that means potentially having to find a new quarterback's coach as well. So that would be tough. All right, good update there

on the locker room report. Good value for the good folks at Valley Forge. Full Kellynmore discussion, nicely done. And of course, go to Valleyforge.org to find out more information.

Some superchats to discuss. Grace Min, is it at all worrisome that Kellan has his mind on the potential new gig, a Gannon or a Beni Ben Johnson situation. What do you think?

Rich, how do you feel about this dynamic? I don't like the parallels, but I also think it's the way of the world. And it's, I think Zach will probably say in a second here, there are differences in that the Eagles are going to be more prepared to replace Kellynne Moore versus Johnny Gantz.

Now there won't be a surprise, what was it, a third round pick that just showed up on draft right? Wow, what an update that was, yeah. I mean, losing the Super Bowl versus that, I don't know, I'm just kidding. But yeah, I am a little bit worried about it. I mean, the parallels of, like, the offensive, the coordinator who is not, who has not been all that inspiring for most of the year is about to take the job.

Who has feasted on particularly bad competition as Dennis has reminded us. Is about to take the not so, like, not so great job in the host city of the Super Bowl. Yeah, it does worry me a little bit. I know some of those things don't actually matter to like play calling and preparation and things like that. But yeah, it does worry me a little bit. I have to be careful here because as a commenter said, you know, Z-Berm or ZB defending Josh Harris and Jonathan Gannon, how tone deaf could he be or something like that?

This guy who's his first name being with Jay? I don't want to pander to the crowd. I do want to give my honest viewpoint, though. Again, I'm not defending Jonathan Gannon here. I don't think Jonathan Gannon was distracted for that Super Bowl. We can talk about the game plan here. I think, I mean, if I'm being honest with you, Shane Steichen had more conversations leading up to the Super Bowl about his head coaching job than Jonathan Gannon has his. Where Jonathan Gannon was in the wrong where it screwed the Eagles over, and I've said this and I stand by this, is that the Eagles were in the dark on it up until like the weekend before in that they, when Jonathan Gannon was interviewing for the Texan's job, Vick Fangeo was kind of waiting there to be the Eagles offensive coordinator.

I'm sorry, the Eagles defense coordinator. When Gannon did not get the Texan's job and he thought he was coming. back, then Fangeo accepted that job. Had the Eagles known the Cardinals were a possibility earlier on in the process, then I doubt Vic Fangio takes that Dolphins job when he does. A matter of fact, you saw reports out of Miami that one of the gripes they had of him is that his mind was in another place that he wished he coached somewhere else last year, right? Fangio's been on record saying if he had known Gannon, he would have come here.

So I think what screwed up the Gannon's, I don't think Gannon was, I don't think his mind was elsewhere for that Super Bowl. I don't think Ben Johnson's mind was elsewhere for the Lions game last, like Ben Johnson was getting a job no matter what. I... Yeah, now, it's just, it's impossible to say. Like, I don't think that intentionally

anybody is like trying less hard to win or anything like that. But of course, of course your mind is going to wander a little bit. I don't think in game, I think you're probably pretty laser focused, but I don't know. It's possible. It's possible, you know,

Nick likes to talk about they're grinding every hour watching every bit of tape. I don't know. There are only so many hours in the day. I'm not saying it's a reason that they lost. I'm not saying he didn't do what he does every week. I'm just saying it is human nature that if you're thinking about something else, you're not thinking about something else.

I can go in my archives and look at my last week writing for the athletic. I wrote three damn good stories that week. I can go to the archives writing. My G.O. and Hertz profile that week. Nobody has the focus. My Joe and Herr's profile that week was awesome. I can go back to my last week. I can go back to the last week.

I like when you're proud of yourself. Yeah, I can go to my last week at the Inquirer. Now, that was June. It was a little different, but I've, I, but you already had those jobs lined up. You already had those jobs lined up. Yeah, but I'm saying, like, my mind wasn't wandering. Does you know where you were going?

Yeah, I'm saying Ben Johnson knew where he was going. Ben Johnson knew where he was going. Okay. You know, Gannon knew where, the Arizona Cardinals hadn't hired a coach on February They were clearly going to hire Johnston also knew that if he would open this game, whatever. So was Shane Stuygens? James throws his ball away. What am I going to do?

I get somewhere to go. I'm still getting a job. If you're like Jonathan Gannon wanted to win that Super Bowl, he's a damn competitive person. He wanted to win that Super Bowl. He wanted to gut him. Kellyn Moore, I don't know Kellynne that as well as I knew Jonathan, admittedly. But I got to think Kellan Moore wants to win the Super Bowl, right?

Yeah, no one's arguing that. So I don't think he's distracted. Um, but be funny if you showed up to like media day with like St. Haddon's like his his underwear is outside his pants or something like just just well the funny thing is shoes are on backwards like shopping for houses in New Orleans. So I've I've covered a few of these Super Bowls where it's like the coaches the coaches in waiting basically like Dan Quinn with the Falcons. I remember that one.

Um, there was one Kevin O'Connell with the Vikings. Uh, and like the, the local media from from that city. just like they spend all four media sessions just like interviewing you know so and the player is about him yeah yeah exactly so that's what it's going like next week with all the new Orleans media there keel more's not going to take a single week's question all week everything's going to be saying saying you know what are your thoughts on on on Derek our situation what's your favorite kind of pobleau do you like poe boys yeah like a bobois from where New Orleans what rush what's your favorite poboy in New Orleans I don't have a I don't have a

A roller decks of every single place. All right. I'll bring you to mothers. They make a good pro boy. I have been there, actually. Yeah. That's a good New Orleans accent. Thank you very much.

You ever been to the French colon? I don't know. People in New Orleans might be offended by your New Orleans action. Not the first time. Yeah. There's a lot more what I came from. We've got a long week on the radio row for the Super Bowl. Joy is going to be sick next week just of laughing so hard from your jokes.

I feel like she's your best audience here. But yeah, I love New Orleans. I have a list of places I want us to go eat in New Orleans. Okay. You'll have the chance. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break back with more on the other side.

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Let's do some of super chats. What do we got? Phil Hedges. Question for Bo. What was a more historic moment in Philly commanders fans taking over the Hard Rock Cafe or Rudy Giuliani's presser

at four seasons landscaping? Two great ones. Two great ones. The only one, I have to go with the only one that, you know, there was real bloodshed. And that, of course, was the hard rock because we have to honor the fallen.

Adam P says, Bo, my Josh Harris calendar came in. Thank you. This is, of course, the payoff for Adam P who won last year's Sicko's March Madness Challenge.

And he never got his prize. And so I sent him a nice Josh Harris calendar that I made on Shutterfly. Found 12 good photos. It's going to be a good year for Adam P. First 12 photos, right? What's that?

They're all good photos. Well, yeah, they're all good photos. Grace. doubles down. She says, sorry, another one. Don't be sorry. Keep it coming, Grace. If BG comes back,

is it at all worrisome that his conditioning might be lacking since he hasn't been playing for a while? I know they rotate, but I just think of these things at 1 a.m. When Kellyn Moore, it's hot and heavy with the Saints. That's right. Grace, I appreciate it.

It was great to meet you out in L.A. Grace. I am not, look, two things here. When you have the upper body injury, you're in theory able to keep condition better than if you have lower body. He has been moving around. He has talked about this. You're more worried about losing strength than you are about losing conditioning.

Now, football shape is different. I don't think Brandon Graham's game this year has kind of been built around. I'm not saying he's not in shape, but like, but Brandon Graham's game is strength. Brandon Graham's game is intelligence. Brandon Graham's game is toughness is his technique. I don't think Brandon Graham's game this year has been like being the Energizer buddy. He's not going to be taking 60 snaps. Yeah, I think if he plays, you're talking about 10, 15 snaps tops.

Yeah, and it's more of your Willis Reed type thing where Brandon Graham's back for the Super Bowl. Right. I mean, he's taking Bryce Huff's place in the rotation and probably taking a couple snaps away from Josh Swett and Jalick's Hunt, right? Like Nolan Smith's still going to play all the time. Although it's interesting because usually BG is on the left side, which is, where Nolan Smith has mostly been rushing from. So it would be an interesting, you know, who's going to move around a little bit. But, yeah, I don't think,

I don't think that the conditioning would be a huge issue for him. Agreed. If he's good to go for 10 snaps, throw him in there. Absolutely. Is that one of the great Philly, I don't want to say one of the great Philly stories, but like that, I mean, we'll get to our favorite stories, but that would be so cool seeing Brandon Graham out there.

Now, we spoke about this bill with me i'm curious you're i'm curious your view i think if you can play professional sports play as long as you can but if they won the super bowl is there any better way of going out and coming back from a season ending injury winning the super bowl right like that yeah it's hard to top that it's hard to top it and uh you know the first guy i think of is the guy that brand and graham sacked in uh two super bowls ago where you know he wins the super bowl and you know it's like what else do you want to do and then he has like i know they won the division ruined my family as I believe the answer that he had some stuff go on.

I don't know if it was related. It might have been. But the team was just very uninspiring that next year. And then he was like, all right, I guess I'll retire now. So, you know, I think in retrospect, it would have been better for him to go out on top. I mean, yeah, I mean, I would go out on top. I did really like the framing from the doctor we spoke to the other day just about. That was awesome.

These are like super humans. Like, you know, you just got to keep that in mind. By the way, did you see the, speaking of that, did you see the video last night of the Eagles guys talking to LeBron? Yeah. It's so funny how small LeBron makes A.J. Brown look. Like, AJ Brown is like this huge dude, like the most powerful guy on the team. And it looks like a little kid makes of LeBron.

I thought it was, I mean, not funny. Like, you see Maxie on a basketball court and you think like, oh, he's small, right? And then he's like towering over AJ. You made fun of me for this the other, a couple years ago when I was talking about James Harden. Yeah. I'm like, yeah,

basketball players are tall. Like, this isn't a surprise. Yeah. So now you're saying the same thing. No, I'm not trying to be argumentative here on that. That's a difference.

Yeah. I mean, basketball players are tall. Have you ever been around basketball players are tall? Yeah. Yeah. You're right. There was the same thing with Hardin and Darius Slay.

Yeah, with Hardin and Slay. Yeah, no, it was really funny. I mean, LeBron was making them look like little kids, but that's the way it works.

I just think it's funny. Like, all these guys are alphas in their own right. And then, you know, like professional football players and, you know, Cooper de Gene, or Cooper the Gene goes to the Flyers game the other night. And he's, you know, he's a tower over those guys.

No, no, I'm saying like, he's riding around on the Zamboni. If Cooper the Gene went to the bar down the street right now, he'd be flooded, right? But like, LeBron James, LeBron James, there's like levels. Like, LeBron James goes and says, what's up to A.J., to Devante, and then he says, big play sleigh, right? But then, like.

Well, and Paris Campbell. Yeah, Paris. Oh, the Akron. Yeah. Like, there was one point where it looked like Cooper's doing it was about to take the hand. He was looking at. He was like, he's like, oh, yes, exactly. So it's like, it's like humbling.

It's like, all right, like you're, you're Philly famous. Are you LeBron? No, are you, are you LeBron famous? Yeah. So that's, meanwhile, like, AJ is like, he's sort of like shrinking. He's like a little bit of a wallflower. Like, oh, like, can I get a picture, LeBron? No, so then the other thing I think about too is like,

these guys must get so annoyed when everyone takes out their cell phones like whenever they're you know they're like walking and it's like everyone has a cell phone out but there's there's uh lebron and like they're literally taking cell phone video of lebron yeah see i would have liked if lebron went right to big dom and like that's the first guy i got to dab up who also probably would have looked a little less small that's true i i saw lebron play when he was 16 he played against my brother and like then he was uh Yeah, or my brother's team, although my brother did get in that game, so I can say he played against my brother. But my brother's team more specifically. But then, like, I mean, so I'm a year, you know, I'm class of 2004, LeBron's class of 2003. Like, you would think we weren't on the same planet. Like, we wouldn't, you know, LeBron and me. Like, we were one year apart. And, like, LeBron, he's got like a full beard.

Oh, I see. Like, I'm saying, like, I, like, I. I'm like looking at him like how's he a year older than me this guy yeah and what happened to the to the tape of that game I got the good part of the game got taped over for my sister's ballet recital what was the game on was it on CN8 no I was there and I taped it with a video camera

and you have like my homemade commentary like oh my god and where is it at it was in Akron Ohio It was at the gym in Akron. It was LeBron's junior year. My brothers and his, I should say, all the good players on their team, their senior years. Not all the good players. It's good players.

It's a good player. It's for juniors and sophomores. My sophomore year. And I remember it was like the coolest thing. And I'm videotaping it. And there was one, at the end of the first half, he hits this Fallway 3, literally where that TV. It's like right in front of me. And it was like an inbound play with like eight with like three seconds left.

And so we're going back a few years later. We're watching this back. And we're in like the third quarter. And then all of a sudden you just see this like six year old girl doing, you know, first position or if I forget the ballet terms, pleiaes. Is it? LeBron going up for a dunk and then it cuts right to a pleia. Yeah, it cuts a pleia. But I so want, I so wanted the one play when LeBron dunked on my brother.

And I always want, and I don't have that clip anymore. Instead, I have my sister doing ballet. Shout out to Jenna. Shout out to Jenna. Yeah. Good stuff. All right. Let's go a couple more superchats.

Chase Daniel Plainview says if Kellyn gets the Saints job and ends up being a good head coach, would he be viewed as a Lurrie creation rather than a Jerry creation? Oh, interesting. Whose tree does he fault does he come from? The Cowboys tree. Yeah, but the Cowboys let him go. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of like when the Eagles claim credit for Andrew Barry. And he spent a year here, you know?

Yeah, but do you get credit for like where the guy was most recently? I don't know. Good point. Maybe like the Chris Peterson tree. You like that? No, okay. Yeah, I like that. I don't like giving Jerry credit for anything right now.

I don't think he deserves it. How about glory holes? You get credit for that. I've read some coverage out of Dallas that part of the reason why they won Schottnheimer instead of killing more, like Schottnheimer has like this like command of the room and Kellynne Moore is a little more reserved. Feels like the kind of thing they're saying just to just to put it out there. Yeah.

And I think that's a little over just look. Kellynne Moore. Yeah, I'll say this. Kellen Moore, at least in my interaction, and I don't know Kell Moore's as much as I would like to. He's not the most like charismatic personality, at least publicly. But the thing I'll say about Kellen Moore is is Keltmore played six years in the NFL, right? Or eight years, six or eight years, six or eight years,

in the NFL. He was one of the best college quarterbacks of the last 25 years. Like, Kelmore spent his life in locker rooms. His dad was a coach. He played with Calvin Johnson. He played with Des Bryant.

He's been, like, Kelm Moore's not like a stranger to being around NFL players. So I think that is, that would be significantly overstated. Kelm Moore knows his way around a locker room for sure. I think that's fair. Yeah.

Yeah. Also, like, his press conferences are not charismatic, but he could be different in front of a team. Seems like he's doing that on purpose. I mean, that I would hope. Yeah. Yeah. And that's all the, like, I remember talking, you know,

I should say four years ago today was Siriani's opening press conference to not go well. But I remember talking to people after that, and they're like, you should see Siriani, like, in front of a meeting room. And he's not like that at all. And we've seen clips. He's standing on a stage with an. empty zoom camera. He sees Bo's

door in the back and he's wondering what's that trapezoid door? Where's that day? On yesterday's Zoom press conference with Nick Siriani now on the show, on the kickoff show and on Anthony's show the last two times I was on Zoom, I had the hard rock background

right in front of the hard rock and I forgot that I had that. And so I sign on to the Nick Siriani Zoom yesterday and I hit the video button and I'm in front of the hard rock it's very funny. Then I was, I was able to change it

before it was my turn to ask the question. I would like if he noticed it. He said something. I mean, if it had been my turn, I wouldn't have turned it off, but because I was still in the queue,

I figured, no, you know, I'm not trying to make a joke out of the thing. That was a very 2020 thing, like commenting on, sure.

On the backdrops. Yeah. Yeah. What was it happening in 2020? We were remote. That year, all the press conferences were over Zoom.

So, yeah. Why? Because of COVID? Oh, yeah. That's right. Is there a joke there that I'm not familiar with? Oh, no, I just said I forgot. Oh.

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3% balance transfer fee applies and standard rates apply after the promotional rate. All right. Let's talk favorite storylines of this superb owl. Zach, you want to kick us off? There's so many that I like. You don't want to give away your writing plan, but. Yeah, no, I was, I'm talking about like the big picture storylines here. When you go writing, just because the Super Bowl is probably like the most covered event in the world, do you go big picture or do you try and find a unique angle that maybe some aren't thinking of? Yeah, I'm taking what is. So I appreciate that question.

I'm taking what I view as big stories and I want to write it better than anyone else can or offer a perspective that's that other people can. So, you know, like something on Lori, something on Roseman, something on whether it's on her. or Siriani, but you want to find an angle or offer perspective that the people who are there just that week aren't doing. And I'm less actually, I probably focus more on the people who I don't write about throughout the season, like a Lori or a Roseman, or if there's a behind-the-scenes story. But in the past, I've saved like my Darius Lay Banana Putting story or Lane Johnson's training story or a story on the Eagle situational meetings, things like that.

I like doing those during Super Bowl week because I don't want to say like you're flexing, but like the people who are just there that week don't have the background for that story. So I kind of like pulling up, I'm pulling those out. But as far as like my, the big Super Bowl storyline, this, I think Sequin is going to be like the star of the Super Bowl. I heard Kyle Brandt saying he's not into the Sequin birthday story as much. Kyle and I have the same view on birthdays. I'm not a big birthday guy. but it is

there is cool symmetry I just think that Sequin Barclay is his cue rating He's going to say one birthday That's what they should call me Sequin's curating is going to go through the roof With the Super Bowl

I think he has a certain charisma Likeability factor The way he's played this year He hasn't been on this type of stage So I think that the The Super Bowl storyline The Big Super Bowl storyline is a worthy one Is it going to be like

Saquan Berkeley on the big stage being a face of the NFL. I feel like if they win the Super Bowl, it will be considered the greatest running back season of all time when you combine individual accolades and the stats and the numbers he put up, but also we did it for a Super Bowl winner as well. I feel like it should be considered that already.

I know, but I think it will undoubtedly. It'll just be accepted. I agree with that. Okay. What do you got? So I have a couple big picture ones, and I think like the Eagles legacy as let's call it dynasty dethroners basically where okay they don't do it the same way

as the Patriots and the Chiefs had with the quarterback coach infrastructure that just seems to turn out wins every year the Eagles have to do it differently they change the quarterback in and out they change the coach in and out but if they win they go up against these dynasties and they win half of them and they are like worthy adversaries

and I think a team that has been very relevant for a long time I think some of this comes back to Dainez and the stats he was tweeting out like Eagles have made more Super Bowls than anybody in the NFC over the past 20 years. And all the NFC championship games they have hosted and played in as well. If they win this Super Bowl, I think there are people whose legacies take like a huge jump, I would say, with a win. But I would also just say the team, like they are going to be remembered as a team that was like just a huge part of the NFL story over this past decade. Who do you think is the one whose legacy grows the most? So I have two people.

One, I would say probably less so, is that I think Lane Johnson is already in the Hall of Fame, but like two-time Super Bowl champion, like he's just, he's so in the Hall of Fame after that one. And then Howie Roseman is the other one too. I think Howie is the big one. I think if they were, yeah, I think Howie becomes a Hall of Famer.

Becomes a Hall of Famer. I was looking at the list of general managers who made the Hall of Fame, like Ron Wolf is in. I feel like if Ron Wolf is in, Howie Roseman with two Super Bowls. And listen, I do think that the two Super Bowls with like two different rosters, two different quarterbacks, two completely different team building executions. Yeah.

Which is not the way these things happen. Yeah. I recall two years ago, Andrew Barry is saying that he thinks Howard Roseman is the best general manager in sports. And you hear that and you're like, it might be a stretch. But I think you'll hear that conversation if the Eagles win the Super Bowl. because this is generally viewed and like Brett Veach has done an outstanding job

that's generally viewed as Mahomes and Andy Reid right even though he he's done a terrific job I actually think here in Philly it's like it's viewed as like Hallie Roseman built this I think I think in Philadelphia Syriani is the Veach yes exactly right

yeah and like Howie is the Mahomes as people probably frame it right I think the roster itself is the Mojoms it's yeah but how it's put the roster together. But how we put the roster together. For me, you talk about the different quarterbacks. I think you got to start.

Does that mean Jalen is the Andy? You don't have the full parallel there. Yeah. It doesn't fully work. Yeah. Because I don't think Jilin is the Andy. I think the Andy is, you talk about the way that this 2020 team is different than the 2022 team.

Sequin, yes, the defense, yes. But at quarterback, that team didn't have Tanner McKee. You really have 10th, okay. I think if Tanner McKee can, can lead a come from behind touchdown pass to E.J. Jenkins to really make this thing happen.

That's, to me, that's the storyline that that I think America wants to see. Okay. I know you're going there with this exercise, but... Well, what's my favorite storyline? That would be pretty cool. Okay. Yeah. How do you think Terry McKee's going to go over

at Media Night popular? Well, I think he's going to be happy that the word on the street is respect Mormons. Fair, okay. So, I mean, he's going to be flying high knowing that. Yeah. Do you think Tanner McKee's going to, look,

Tanner McKee did a press conference in South Powell this year, right? It was, it was, um, Sequin, Barclay, Jake Gelliot, and Tanner McKee were up there. Tender McKee's been in the spot, I mean, there might be Brazilian media that is eager to speak to Tender McKee. There you go. My, we'll go back this way now. I do just the

like the football nerdery and the schematic matchup to me is very interesting of like I think I think if Vic Fangio is not the best defensive coordinator in football then Spags is sure and I think he's going to throw a ton of stuff at Jalen Hertz that I don't know if they're going to be ready for given the way that they have protected lately

but I think that the Eagles might be able to just run the ball and control the game that way and then yeah like if anybody's going to stop Mahomes, just thinking of the ghosts and demons of 2022. And man, like that boy, that defense didn't put up a fight. It's like we, it really is like we get to just experience the what if. Like, oh, what if they had a real defense for that game? Let's find out.

If you want to look smart at your Super Bowl parties this year, or you want to look like you really know what's going on on the team. Where classes? the term you should use is sim pressure I think that's what all the I think that's what all the film heads are going to be talking about how's J-win going to handle the sim pressure

and that of course means simulated pressure I like that you didn't explain what it meant just what Sim was short for it's Sim pressure now simulated pressure it is a form of course We all know.

It means simulated pressure. It is a form of blitzing that I think you will. It's like you're reading from like football Wikipedia. Well, the AI overview is reading like the Google AI. He's a football defense scheme that involves rushing forward defenders while making it look like they're rushing more. But no, if you think back to the Eagle Chief. He closes a laptop. And you think back.

Now that he knows, he can sound smart by reaccompliant. AI description of Sim pressure. I was trying to put it on layman terms. The, yeah. The Eagles, the, so Sim pressure will be you have four guys rushing, but it doesn't necessarily,

it's not necessarily the four players rushing who you think at the snap it's going to be. Is that a fair We've talked about it for several months. Precisely for both. We have to do the show. I look at our viewership every single day. We have more viewers

today than we had two months ago. In theory, there's people who did, in practice, there's people watching now who did not watch that show two months ago. Therefore, they might not know what sim pressure is. You're calling them sim pressure people. No, I am not. I'm trying. So if you're at your Super Bowl party and you're like, well, when Eagles played the Chiefs

last year, they won, but Siriani really struggled with, I'm sorry, Jalen really struggled with the Sim pressure that Spags was throwing at him. And you say that, and you say that at your Super Bowl party, and they're going to be, oh my gosh. I like the idea. I like, hey, like, do you want any of these nachos or anything? And the person just free, it's like, uh, some pressure. No, it's like you. What was your favorite commercial when Jalen struggled against the

impression? So I'll, no, back when I, in 2022, Jailen hurt struggle. I'll tell you what, I'll give you a little behind the scenes. For seven years, I did Daily News Live, okay, or it was in Philly Sports Talk Live, and you'd have to be on for every segment. And I was on for flyer segments. And I don't know hockey as well. as I know the other sports. But I, I, I'm in such fear of being unprepared, right? So I would have like one point that I would, like, I want to make sure I, I reiterate this point.

I was, I was crazy. I remember purchasing the, the, the NHL video game and spending like a weekend, just like studying every roster on there and like simulating things. So I knew what it would, that the season would be like. but I would make one point every hockey show that you really try to drive home that like all right I know what I'm talking about here Do you remember any of them?

Sim pressure No I mean you know you could There was a lot about you know power plays And you know different like Faceoffs Neutral zone and sure You know that yeah No I like that you just throw like terms

And turns and whatever to make it seem Honestly it probably worked Yeah I would do this Plus minus I would do the same exact thing. By the way, I would imagine that most of the people watching this show want no part of like a Normie Super Bowl party for a game that their team is in, right?

I feel like a lot of the sickos are like locked in a room by themselves. Yeah. Just alone with their thoughts. Right. Could be wrong. You know, yeah, you don't want to be with the people who are like watching the commercials more than the more than the game. Yeah.

This is the Super Bowl. The Eagles are playing for a title. They all have significant, or not they all, I mean, some of them have significant others and some of them have, you know, children. Shots fired at the single people from Zach. No. Not shots fired.

If you have significant others, you know, or insignificant others. Sometimes you just have to go with what they, with what, you know, she or he plans. So, um,

yeah, I know that too well. So. Okay. All right. Back to you, Rich. Yeah.

Uh, the Vic Fangio one is a good one. because I think Vic of course short for Victor yes not always but yeah I believe it is so I think Vic Fangio the only Super Bowl he coordinated in was in New Orleans as well right wasn't there a story that he was kind of walking around the yeah the French quarter he was like yeah looking for some poe boys after I went the 49ers yeah Jeff McClain wrote a good piece on this and he started his NFL coaching career with the Saints so New Orleans has like a place in his heart hmm I'll just just go with the Victor Mick Fangio that's right that's right Vic Mick that is is right

I will say I mean this will be one of the weirder stories but if Jalen just has a great game he might be one of the the hardest quarterback he's already is one of the hardest quarterbacks to talk about like in the league but if he just has an amazing Super Bowl after having an amazing Super Bowl last time yeah and an amazing championship game this time like you know maybe he's not a playoff riser but he is a like Finals riser? I don't know. It would be something if he had a performance that was in the same

ballpark as both the game he played last week and the game he played two years ago. It's a really good one and you talk about the upside for people's legacies. It might even be higher than Howie's. Like if he has a great game and out duels Mahomes, like he sort of did two years ago,

yeah. I mean, all the other stuff doesn't really matter. I feel like if we, especially outside of Philadelphia where people don't care about the day to day as much, Like I think people will remember him walking off the field after playing that great game two years ago. You know, all the great quotes he gave afterwards. Like we'll be back. The lock screen.

You deliver you learn. Yep. And then if he comes back and out Duhl's homes two years later, I think that would make for an amazing story. Agreed. Well said. So when I pitched this, I was actually thinking of like what I think is like a valid big story and what I think is like storylines I don't like as much. So I'll give you.

The storyline I don't like as much for this one because I think it's played out is Andy Reid against the Eagles. I think it's like there's been there, done that. That was two years ago. I think that was more relevant. It's also at a point now where he's more known for being the Chiefs coach

than the Eagles coach. I also think, and we discussed this two years ago, not on this show, on a previous show, that I can't speak for, Eagles fans, but I think Phillies, I think Philly fans have kind of gotten over, Andy, after winning the Super Bowl in 2017. I think that took away some of the, the sting. It's like if you broke up with your girlfriend and you got remarried, or I'm sorry,

not remarried, you got married, like you're not thinking about the X anymore, right? You've moved on with your life. No, no. I mean, tell us more. I think that's right. No, I think that's, yeah. It's that if you're, if you broke up with your girlfriend and then she goes on and she marries somebody else and you're sitting there.

She wins three Super Bowls. And no, you're sitting there single. And every time you're on like Instagram or Facebook, you're probably thinking like, he's talking about bundle rusks. Yeah, you like haven't gotten over it. But then if you've, yeah, but then if you meet someone and you marry her, then it's like you're just, you're happy for your ex at that point, right? So.

Very interesting. Interesting data. I think, I think that's, for the Zach Berman scholars among us. I think that's, that story has been played out, but I bring this up because I was on, I was on an Alabama radio show this morning,

and they asked me about Andy Reed facing the Eagles and how Philly fans feel about this. And I just think it's like, I think Philly fans have moved on. Correct me in the chat if I'm wrong. Did you leave comments? Did you tell the Alabama radio station about the girlfriends? No, I didn't use that analogy.

Probably should have used it on this show. But I think it's a fair analogy. All right. Yeah. Do we have another super chat here? I know, we already got that one. Oh, no, we did. And we need to get Abdul Carter on the pot for Super Bowl Week.

This is a great story because this guy is going to be a top five pick in the draft. Yeah, maybe number one. And he is using the last two months of his Eagles fandom. Sure. Like, he is a sicko, man. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's awesome.

He is, yeah, LaSalle High School, LaSalle High School, as Fran. I'm sorry, as Jamie would tell us. An incredible player, fun to watch. And yeah, big time Philly personality. And I would love to have him on the show. Actually, I mean, we're going to have Fran Duffy down there. Franz is the preeminent giraffe expert as far as I'm concerned.

I would love to get him to sit down with Abdul Carter at the Super Bowl. That'd be great. Yeah. Thanks for watching on Fast for those of you doing that. We've got a couple more minutes to finish up this bad boy on all p.gloy.com. Check it out there. All right. You want to go lightning round one more round?

Sure. Over to you. Okay. So a, a storyline that I think we can all, we reference this, but I think Brandon Graham returning would be just like an awesome story. Brandon is such a, it's such a character. And it's just that's a story that that's like your Good Morning America story. Right. I always think like what's the, what's the NFL network story? What's the ESPN story? What's the Good Morning America story? Right. You always think that? Yeah, I try to think that. Yeah. Yeah, like who are you trying to appeal to here? And Good Morning America, you're appealing to like the non-football fans.

And how cool the story is, is that that you have this guy who is supposed to be playing his last game and he comes back from entry just to play in that. I think that's a good morning America story. I think BG is going to be like the bell of the ball at Media Day. Yeah. Yeah. Well earned. Yeah. Absolutely.

He's playing. A lot of good BG quotes from New Orleans. This is a... I kind of ran out of ideas, but Juju Smith-Schuster. Oh, that's interesting. Well, the real question is, will they activate James Bradbury? They won't activate him, but he'll be there.

He'll be there for Media Day. Well, it would be a nice scene if, like... If Quigioniong-Mitchell, like, absolutely, you know, owns him on an interception or something like that. And maybe Bradbury talks a little trash from the sidelines. That's a good one. Does he even stand on the sidelines? Now, this is not...

I don't even know. Probably. I don't know. Yeah. Do you think he knows the names of the rest of the guys on the two? Yeah, James's been around. Actually, if he's been around. Okay.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, James was in the meeting on Tuesday, actually, about the logistics. You saw a video of it? Yeah. I saw. Or you were there. I wish I was like. Like hiding under the seats?

I wish I was there. I was probably on a phone call and I was not. So, um, but yeah, no, I would love to be there. I like covering the team. That's what I like covering the team. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

This is not what I'm going to draft, but to your point on the Media Day stuff, I'll tell you who is not going to have a fun time. Oh, I don't think you're going on here. I mean, Carson West is going to be in tough shape on Monday night. He's going to be just surrounded by Eagles reporters. That's going to be brutal. Carson's going to see me and roll his eyes. See you. No, I think that's his agent who's going to remember yelling at you.

Yes. No, but I mean, you know, not only does he. have to go up against the Eagles, but it's like the guy who replaced him is in the Super Bowl for the second time. That's a, that's a tough scene for him. Yeah. Um, yeah, like, is God going to smite Harrison Butker in the middle of the game? I think that would be cool. Um, that's a, that's an interesting storyline as far as I'm concerned. Also, the, the matchup of, you know, can they block Jalen Carter? And, you know, nobody's been able to block him like technique wise for a while. is it possible that Mike Caliando can be successful by just doing cool impressions

and making Geland laugh at the place. Yeah, he's the weak spot on that chiefs offensive line. If you want to impress your friends at the Super Bowl party, you say, man, they should feast on Calyendo. Yeah, say that. Now here's a guy who's about to run over me. Super chat. From Defop. Grace is back again.

again. Oh, interesting storyline. Brittany Mahomes versus Brees. Bree Burroughs. Bree is Jayhwin's fiancee. Yes. Got it. I mean.

Who you got? How are you taking? I don't know. I'd rather not talk about a player significant other. Unless that. But I mean, if you're doing the tail of the tape, which team gets the edge here? It'd be funny if the Alabama radio show has to that. Who you got?

I'm staying away from that one. Offensive line, coaching. I am staying far away from that one. Good, yeah, smart. Okay. All right. But the significant other that I think people care about is Taylor Swift. That's a big, like my daughter is excited.

You know, she's excited for me potentially seeing Taylor Swift at the Super Bowl. She said, if you see her, tell her that I'm a big fan. And I said, okay. you hey Taylor Sloan says hello you should do that why would you do that? I'm sure she's never heard

something like that before but yeah Sloan thinks like Taylor's... But you get to tell Sloan that you told her that's great. Yeah, Sloan thinks Taylor Swift and I are going to be like hanging out the Super Bowl. So who's to say?

That's true. Who's to say? Yeah. You never know. Yeah, I mean, I was at the New Yorkshire I was on the elevator with I should know this. Bruno Mars.

Thank you. Bruno Mars. Yeah. I did not know who he was. But I knew that he was going to the, he was going to a press conference, I think. He's saying the halftime show. I believe so.

I was on the elevator with Bruno Mars. He had a lot of people around him. Dick, dude. What are you looking up here? Isn't Taylor Swift's dad and like a former? Yeah, Scott, right? Yeah. Maybe he knows you.

Maybe that's your end. Oh, there you go. Maybe he bought, maybe you bought your book. You know what I would say if I saw Taylor Swift? A big Ross Tucker fan. Pretty good. Or Chad Henny. Or her brother, D'Andre.

I don't get it. So when Taylor Swift first came into the football looks guy, they said, do you know Taylor Swift? I said, yes, she went to Ross Tucker's high school. And Boe thought that was like the funniest thing that he's ever heard. I think it's pretty funny. That was a genuine thing. Shout out to Ross Tucker. Yeah.

All right. I feel like we hit most of them all. Good stuff, everybody. Bang up stuff. Oh, another super chat under the wire. John says we need the Carson's agent yelling at ZB Sterner, please. All right. We got a couple minutes.

Am I allowed to tear? I mean. He didn't say off the record, did he? Here. Let's pass this past. It was not the direct agent was a representative. And I'll put it this way. I went out to North Dakota to do a story on Carson. As you do?

As I do. For the guy who's just drafted number of, two overall. They fell off inquires sending me to North Dakota, putting up a lot of money to send me. I had to book the flight last minute to go out there. I'm going to be a reporter. And I didn't do anything illegal. I knocked on doors. You have told the people, you went to, you went to his favorite restaurant. You asked where he sat. You sniffed the seat, all that stuff. Knocked on doors, gave business cards. But, you know, there were people who like, you know, Carson had been drafted. he already did all the pre-draft stuff i think he just wanted like some people to be left alone

or he went and to me it's like that's that's that's that's that's fine grown adults yeah you weren't yeah grown adults should have the chance to speak for themselves right and so knocked the door polite leave my if you're interested in in talking and i mean you know you would think that i uh i was like hiding under the table in the meeting room you know i i didn't yeah so uh you're But that comes with the job. And I've been, I've been yelled at many times. So part of the job. Yeah, that's no fun.

It's no fun. But probably say, oh, well, okay. Aaron, since we're talking coordinators, I can't wait for J.G. to claim he pulled the strings. I guess because he's the one I told Nick to stop calling plays. Yeah, exactly. Maybe he gets a ring. It would be funny if Kellyn Moore had like a.

very fiery interview around training camp about how like yeah yeah he stings yeah or or in his car on the way to the airport this time around oh there family show you want and say it you said the effort there I didn't say I sort of gut a roll I can't even imagine Kellyn Moore doing that but it would be one of the funniest things it'd be the funniest thing since Tailgate Ted's hard rock speech the other night, I think. So good. So good. I feel like I had one other thing, but we get to talk again tomorrow. So hopefully it'll come to meet then.

Thank you, handsome Rich. Thank you, Julia. Thank you for all of you sickos watching live. We'll be back again tomorrow, 2 o'clock. We got an extra show this week as well, trying to figure that out. Might be Thursday night. It might be Friday morning. Who's to say?

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