PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - Saquon Barkley, Terrell Owens & A PERFECT Eagles Roster of Standout Seasons | PHLY Eagles Podcast

Episode Date: June 17, 2026

How would you put together a full roster of single seasons for the Eagles in the 2000s? Saquon Barkley’s 2024 is on the list, for sure, but which quarterback season stands the test of time? Jalen Hurts’ 2022? Michael Vick’s 2010? Carson Wentz’s 2017? Donovan McNabb’s 2004? Brandon Lee Gowton of Bleeding Green Nation joins Bo Wulf for the fun exercise, plus ANOTHER Eagles signing has opted to retire rather than play for the team. What’s up with that?    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello everybody and welcome to the PHAY Eagles podcast on a beautiful Wednesday afternoon. We are live here in the Xfinity Lounge and we are presented by our friends at Ashley, Bo Wolf, and the great Brandon Lee Gouten of Bleeding Green Nation. joins us, BLG, how you doing? I'm doing better than the Phillies are apparently doing right now. Agent Painter getting lit up, huh? Yeah, it's tough, but they're doing well overall, so I'm doing well overall. Okay, we'll take that.

fun discussion at hand today. We were in the middle of Eagles 26 week. On Monday, we talked about the defensive side of the ball with Tim McManess, Anthony Gargano, and Fran Duffy. Yesterday, we talked about the offensive side of the ball. That is leading into the unveiling of 26 and 25 on our list tomorrow. But today, a little break from that

and then a focus on not just the best careers of the century, but the best individual seasons of the century. and we are going to put together a full starting lineup, 22 players, 11 on offense and 11 on defense, for the best individual seasons at each position this century. It reminds me of those, like, games that are going around, the 20 and O, kind of like an Eagles version of, I know you've made an Eagles exclusive.

Yeah, we've gone back and forth. It's fun. It is fun. I like the game of trying to make sure that you get, you got to get the tight end first. You've got to prioritize the tight end, toughest one to find. Yes.

And then you sort of go from there. I like multiple, a lot of times, more than multiple, where you just get down to that final one and it's just, you're drawing dead. It's like, oh, it's such a good team. I know, I know. And then the defensive one, do you prioritize? What is the tight end for defense for you? Is it defensive tackle? I was going to say defensive tackle.

Defensive tackle safety of the two that I find. Yeah, that's the big one. Really fun, though. You can always rely on, on the Eagles have had so many backup quarterbacks collected. Yes. You're always going to find the quarterback. Yes. And you're usually always.

is going to find a linebacker because they've been just such a rotating cast of characters there. I think Kelly Holcomb was like one of my like it's not a quarterback you would actually ever want but for the game would actually come in handy. Fantastic. Before we get to the exercise though, some little bit of Eagles news to discuss and let's do it in what's brewing presented by our friends at Wawa. I will let you break down BLG the four transactions the Eagles made yesterday. while I tend to seeing if I can keep my emotions in check on one of them.

Well, I feel like that's maybe not the lead for a lot of people, but would be the lead for you. But I think the big news, obviously, being that Joe Tryon Choyinka placed on the reserve retired list after being suspiciously absent from the Eagle Spring workout program, including their mandatory minicamp, which you have to be there or you get fined. Right. Unless you have an excused absence, which there was no indication that he did. So that's the big one.

Then your boy, Brandon Johnson, let's take a moment. Boom, very sorry. Terrible news. I think I said on the show, I was worried about this because he was pretty far down the dev chart and was not rotating a ton of safety. I still take that as a win. Brandon and I had a great year together. I saw.

And he overperformed expectations. Camp crushed. You know. That's okay. Yeah. He entered camp and then he played in an NFL game. He was an afterthought. He overperformed expectations.

Don't doubt about it. I think there's something noble too about how quick you were to announce in last season. That was a true. That was fun. Yes. Because usually you have to wait and then suspense builds. And this was like surprise. The heart wants with the heart wants.

Yes. So Brandon Johnson waved. We'll see if he gets claimed. Always possible he returns down the road as well, given how the Eagles, you know, make these transactions. And then two players. from the United Football League, the UFL, if you will. Eric Esu Konma, I'm butchering this pronunciation, a former Dolphins draft pick,

and then Sean Wade, who notably has experience with former Patriots cornerback coach Mike Pellegrino now with the Eagles as a secondary coach, joining Jonathan Jones as another former Patriots defensive back to join this Eagles roster. Now, what do you make of Joe Tryon Shoyanka joining the likes of Zedarius Smith, Jayae Alexander, Miles Jack? Really more along the lines of Devante Parker and Jatvis Brown. I was going to bring up Jatvis Brown.

These guys who are retired unexpectedly for the Eagles. He is, you know, he and Devante Parker and DeTavis Brown were the ones who just, they never even came. Unlike Julio. Unlike Julio. It feels like this is, I can't tell if it's just because we're closer. Does this happen to other teams around the lake? It feels like this is more than most teams. It does feel like more than most.

I don't know if that's like you said because we're closer to it. My best guess without knowing anything explicitly would be that when you look at the timeline of where Joe Tryon, Shawyank has signed with the Eagles that was in late March, March 30th, I believe. The owner's meetings, how he told us about it. And then they make their Grenard trade during the draft, obviously, in late April. I wonder if he looked at that as kind of like, man, I'm kind of looking at, I'm the fifth ed rusher at best here. And if that's just not worth it to him, he had a concussion last year.

I don't know if that factored in. I don't know. But kind of weird that he would sign at that point and then not even at least come to spring practices. I don't know if it's the Grinard thing just because he was someone who was going to have to compete for a job anyway. I mean, that's where he was last year. I don't think he was ever coming in as somebody guaranteed of a job. And then if that was the case, I think he would agitate for a release as opposed to on the retired list, right? It feels to me like something else. It's a weird one.

It's a weird one. Too bad. Now, we talked about this with the, this as could have been related to the AJ Appanessa signing. There are two different kinds of players, whereas Troyan Shainka is more the tweener type who can drop in the coverage. Eponessa is more the tweeter type who can reduce inside on passing down. So I don't know that those two are related necessarily, but I would imagine the Eagles had an inkling that this could be coming when they signed Epinessa.

Yeah, I think it's fair to say they would want someone like maybe rosterable, at least even if they're not in the same mold, some more depth that position there. It was a weird one and it made the Epineza signing, I think, make a little bit more sense now that we know. Okay. Well, DeJoy-Trianchi,

I think of era. Put a book on it. It's over. That'll do it for What's Brewing, presented by Wawa. All right. Let's get to the exercise at hand here, BLG. And I want to know just from a process standpoint, how did you go about putting this together? Because we're going to work, we're not drafting against each other here today. We're working together to put this team into formation. A lot of it was just gut feel, like the first, because that's, I feel like something to that. Like, oh yeah, I remember that season. I shouldn't have to necessarily convince myself.

I think there are some ones that you can just sort of pencil in. Such as running back. That'll be very obvious to me. I think to everyone. Others, I think, needed a little bit more context. So the old friend, pro football reference, always a good place to. Yeah, you're looking at the all pros. Absolutely.

Yeah, of course. Let's start running back, actually. Because I think we all assume this is, I mean, you can just put in Sequin-Barkley, 2024, best running back season in Eagles history and potentially in the NFL. I do want to just pause for a moment here to talk about LaShawn McCoy's 2013 and Brian Westbrook's 2007 because all three of those seasons, those are the three times this century that an Eagles running back has led the NFL in yards from scrimmage. So you see the breakdown there on the screen if you're watching on YouTube.

obviously Sequin has the most rushing yards, 2005, Shady's 1,607 in 2013, and Brian Westbrook's 1333 in 2007. But in that season, Brian Westbrook also had 771 receiving yards, putting him over 2,100 yards from scrimmage, 12 touchdowns. That was the best season, most prolific season of his career, not necessarily the best year for the Eagles. Whereas 2013 Shady, boy, was he dynamic. that season and also added a ton as a receiver over 500 yards.

Again, led the NFL in yards from scrimmage. Were it not for that Seekwan season, I think we could have an interesting debate here. Yes. But it is hard to really make any kind of serious case that it's not that Sequin season, obviously, especially since it led to the Super Bowl. Yeah, I would probably go shady second here. I thought he was such an important piece of that. 2013 chip, I think of the championship belt he had on.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like he was just such a huge part of that offense. But Sequin, just including what he did in the postseason, which I feel like I have to. And also, I feel like this is something that deserves a little bit more attention when we remember that season. And Sequin Barclay had a career high 13 rushing touchdowns in 2024, but was also tackled a league high 11 times at the opponent. into one yard line.

That's like, that's so crazy. He was so, even if we say conservatively, let's say he gets like half of those. Yeah. 11. Let's say even five. I mean, that alone, he would be the Eagles single season franchise rushing touchdown record holder just

by that alone. So I think that just really underscores how crazy good he was that year. I agree with you. All right. So we, the first, the first official pendant member of this team, 2004, Sequin Barkley, at running back. I'm going to give you another one that I think that we can just pen in here.

Because we're going to talk about the receivers. And then maybe there's a question about do we do, are we running 11 personnel? Yes. Or are we thinking about having a fullback on there? Or two tight ends, potentially. But I think I can say that our starting tight end, BLG, is Zach Ertz in 2018.

Yes. Which is his career year in terms of production. We remember, you know, Al-Shan was hurt that year. This was the too much Ertz debate. he goes 116 catches, which was a franchise record, 1,163 yards receiving eight touchdowns. The only time in his career that he went over 1,000 yards receiving.

He was great in 2017. He was great in 2019, but 2018 was full prime elite earths. Played all 16 games as well. I think that's one where we can say that was definitely the best. Also broke the single season NFL record for most receptions by a time. and yeah, which just carried that offense that year. Like you said, I don't think. I couldn't find another thing that even trying to play devil's advocate made sense.

Right. I mean, Chad Lewis had three Pro Bowls in the early 2000s. Goddardt had some productive seasons. But there's no doubt that you're choosing Earths here, and that's the best Earths. So I think that's a good one. All right. Before we go to break, let's talk the top of the wide receivers here. Okay.

Now, we're not going to. not take 2004 Tio, right? He's got to make the team. He misses some time, but we can flash up the different wide receiver seasons. Tio's going to make this team, and you also factor in the playoffs there. I think when you think about AJ, are you thinking 2022, his first year?

I am. I am too. It is interesting that it's not, it's a different kind of season. So, 2003, A.J. Brown, about the same productivity, yards-wise, but he did it on a little bit more volume, a little bit fewer yards per catch. And then the most efficient season that he had with the Eagles, and this, I think, was just something that I had forgotten

in terms of yards per out run was 2024. Yeah. AJ, now it makes sense because they were so run heavy that the fact that he was still able to get to almost 1,100 receiving yards on fewer targets, that makes sense. But when I think of the 22 Eagles, I think of AJ as the primary driver, that that's the one that I would zero in on.

The efficiency point on 2024 is really good because I felt like AJ that year was so understated in terms of it was like boringly excellent. I was like oh yeah another AJ game where he has like six receptions for 100 plus on a touchdown. They have like 19 dropbacks

yeah on seven targets and it's like it didn't even feel like he was actually dominating the game because of just you know, Sequin and the defense being such a calling card of that team but you look at the box square after the game, you're big, man, AJ crushed it. He was awesome. Now, then we've got to talk about Deshawn, because Deshawn has a few elite seasons. If we can

get that graphic back up, Lindsay. 2010, a season, like, unlike we have seen, because it was 47 catches for 1,058 yards. That means you're talking like 20 yards per reception, in insane efficiency from Deshawn that year. And then 2013, of course, the year where it's the chip uptempo offense. And that's the most prolific season of his career, 82 catches for 1,300 yards. Both elite seasons. And I feel like if you were actually playing the game of putting this team together, like, with a plan. Yes.

That 2010 season would kind of be the perfect one because it's like the quote-unquote Quez Watkins role. I was just going to see. He's like a supercharged, Guzwez-Wes-Wing. receiver of all time potentially and you just put him on a team with AJ and T. Yeah. Like I don't know that there's any stopping that. So he's kind of more of like a bit player basically there in a really amazing one in 2010.

I feel like the 2013 version. That's what I put down just because he became more fully realized as a real like number one, number two kind of receiving option. Number two meaning on like a stack team. Right. So I go with the 2013. We go 2013. Now before before we make sure that we're playing 11.

personnel. You can make a case for a tight end if you wanted to, potentially. I will also ask you the question, BLG. It's a bit of a trivia question for it. You're going to know the answer because I'm asking it. Can you name the four times this century that a player on the Eagles has made the first team all pro in his first season with the team? First team offensive player we're talking about?

Oh, anything. Any side of the ball. First team, all pro. First team all pro in their first team. All pro in their first team. first season with the team, two of the instances are already on our roster. Really? So, AJ is on there? No, he did not make first team all pro. So 2004 T.O. 2004 T.O. And two thousand, two thousand, two, thousand, two thousand,

two thousand, twenty four Sequin. Okay. They both made first team all pro in their first season with the team. Hmm. There's one more on defense and there's one more on offense. Is Asante on there? No. I'm terrible at this game. Um, one more in defense, one more in offense. And these are in the century. Yes. I need a hint. So on defense, the same season that Sequin doesn't, it's Zach Bonn, his first email pro in his first season with the team. And on offense, it's 2009 Leonard Weaver. I do have Dream Weaver on my list for fullback. So if you wanted to make a case that this team wants to play a certain type of way, we can table the discussion of is it 2009 Leonard Weaver or 2013 Deshawn or 2010 Deshawn?

Weaver was such a fun player. I feel like one of the last fullbacks of that kind of actual real I mean you have what use check the 49ers but so few and far between and certainly for the Eagles a really unique player

I think you had something like a 40 yard touchdown round against the Giants in that 2009 season just a really fun player to watch but I wouldn't put him on this team if we're only going 11. I put them kind of in here as a fun, like, we can mix them in. But, yeah. All right. Let's take our first break here on the PHSO-Y Eagles podcast. On the other side, we're going to get into the quarterback.

We're going to try to hash this out. What is the best individual Eagle season from a quarterback this century? Is it one of Donovan's season? Is it 2010 Michael Vic? Is it 2013 Nick Foles? Is it 2017 Carson Wentz? Is it a Jalen Hertz season? attach it out next and let us know what you think in the chat, which one would you vote for? Hey, you! What if you could have reliable and intelligent Wi-Fi for the same price for not one year, not two years, not three years, not four years, but five whole years? That is the Xfinity, five-year price guarantee. We are talking Wi-Fi that makes everything in your home work together, that finds and fixes problems before you even notice them.

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Get it today at all phtly.com slash fanatics app access open to all 21 older to play no purchase necessary. US only void wear prohibited. We're back on the PHLY Eagles podcast. Bo and Brandon Lee Gouten. And it's time now to hash it out. What is the best quarterback season for the Eagles this century? Before I do that, though, let me tell you that.

We got draft time coming up this month. And that means a couple big parties at PHY. We got the Sixers draft show on the 23rd, I believe. Yes, night one. at PHY. Die Hards only can come to that event. As you watch Devon and Kyle and Derek break down, Mike Gansy's first selection as Sixers' GM.

Hopefully he does a better job than he did last night at the Phillies game. And then we got the Flyers draft party and live show at Yards Brewery on Friday, June 26th, starting at 6 p.m. How will the Fly Guys back it up? and of course presented by P.H.O.Y. Yards and P.H.L.Y. Sports Street. Join us for that. Okay. A lot of interesting decisions to be made here at quarterback. And that just is like which ones do you use. What's your best Donovan McNabb season? Tough call. Where did you go with? Which McNabb's season did you bring to the table here?

I brought 04. I think that's the one. I know it's kind of obvious. They go to the Super Bowl. but he almost so my impression upon looking up the numbers on that season the feel of it was like oh that year was actually even stronger than I remembered from McNabb I think he deserves probably more credit than he gets for that year

yeah and it's you know you could make a case probably that his best work was done when he didn't have Tio to throw to right because he's it's more of a you know he's lifting everybody around him but when he finally gets that guy he certainly answered the call now I do think we have

to keep playoff performance as part of the conversation. I agree. But Donovan in that year, you know, if you were to just stack up all the quarterback seasons from the Eagles this century by EPA per dropback,

2004, Donovan is the second best season on record behind only Nick Fulses 2013, which, you know, was maybe a bit of an anomaly. That's the 27 touchdowns to interceptions, taken over for Michael Vic thing. He was Donovan that season, six in the league

in the year per dropback, six in the league in success rate, 31 touchdowns, interceptions, also had, was not as much of a runner that season, 8.3 yards per attempt. I think it's fair to say that's, it's okay to use that as his best season.

Yeah. Now you throw, let's just go chronologically. I think we both agree, Michael Vick 2010 belongs in this conversation. Absolutely. I think Vic was, like that team, in the moment felt like a team of destiny. I don't know for everyone.

For me, I had that feeling. I was like, man, if the Eagles are ever going to win a Super Bowl, it feels like it's going to be in this incredible roller coaster, electric, you know, like too good to be true kind of sports story. And Mike Vic was such a just undefendable kind of player. And against all odds, we didn't even know if he was ever going to come back to the NFL and let alone be that version of himself who not only, still had a lot of the raw talent that he had in Atlanta, but also just had developed as a

quarterback. Now, those passing numbers, which you see on YouTube with Michael Vick, undersells it a little bit just like it does for 2022 Jalen, because he's also obviously contributing hugely with his legs. He had 676 rushing yards that season, but was six in the league in EPA per dropback, ninth in success rate, 8.1 yards per attempt. And, you know, Tim told the story on the show yesterday about like the locker room chanting Michael Vick. Like that was real. There's no doubt about it. That was as exciting as I have remembered a quarterback playing for the Eagles.

Now, 2013 Foles, I think it's a nice one to include in the conversation. But I don't think that anybody really viewed that season as foals at the helm of it. Right? It was like he was taking advantage of a very good situation with the offense the way it was structured, with Shady being the main driver. Sean for the reasons we've talked about. Obviously, Foles, you know, gets more involved here in 2017.

But I think the 2013 full season, like it's the best season here, EPA per dropback wise. But I think we, having experienced it, I think we can say that that's not, that's not going to be the winner here. Yeah, living through it, it feels crazy to say,

especially looking at those numbers. I feel like there were times where Nick kind of left money on the table, which again, sounds insane with those stats. but even in the playoff game too, where he famously did indeed leave the field with the lead. But I thought kind of missed some throws, which is to be expected. He was his first full season as a starter.

But the feel of it did not feel quite as dominant, I think, as those numbers would suggest. I think I agree with that. Then you get to 2017 Carson Wentz. And I think it is easy to let the way that the subsequent years played out distract from how special that season was in the moment. And arguably more exciting. than the 2010 Michael Vick, because this is your franchise quarterback.

It's his second season, and he looks like the best quarterback in the league until he gets hurt. But obviously they don't get there without him. He was second in the league in EPIP or drop back that season, 33 touchdowns, seven interceptions, 7.5 yards per attempt. And he did not have like the world's best cast of characters around him. Certainly not the level that Jalen has in 2022. like I would be open to the case that 2017 Carson Wentz could be the answer here. It certainly deserves strong consideration.

I think you have to think of moments when you're thinking about this conversation. And Michael Vick had a lot of those moments in 2010. In some of those moments Carson had that Washington game at home specifically. Like this sounds very lame. I'm like getting goosebumps thinking about it. It was so. The touchdown to Corey Clement. Oh, that play.

Like the fourth read. I will always remember that play. I couldn't believe he completed that. He's getting crushed as he's throwing that too. That was an insane game. Also the same game where he escapes from the huddle. It's just like stuff you just do not see in the NFL on a weekly basis. And Carson was doing that.

When he was at his best like that, it felt like he was going to take over the league. Then if we get to Jalen, do you have 2022 or 2024 for Jalen? I did go 2022 for Jalen. Me too. Now, 2024, certainly you can make the case if we're including the playoffs. They win the Super Bowl and he's the Super Bowl MVP. But 2022, it felt more that he was the driver of the offense.

And obviously he played arguably a better game that Super Bowl than he did in the Super Bowl. They won. 22 touchdowns, six interceptions. And he had 760 rushing yards that season. To say nothing of the fact that they're the best running team in the NFL because of what he brings to the table there. when I, when I entered this exercise, I think my initial thought was, I think probably 2022 Jalen. Yeah.

I don't know if that's, I don't know if that's where I'm landing. I think you can make, I think I'm open to McNabb and I'm open to 2017 Carson. I think the fact that Vic and the offense did stall at the end of the season probably takes that one off for me. Mm-hmm. I don't know. Where do you lean? I put 2022 Jalen over 2004 McNabb,

and I have in parentheses, rushing production and playoff performance are what kind of pushes it over the edge for me because we can't go all these years in Philadelphia talking about how Donovan McNabb never did it. He never got over the hump. He never won the big one. And then just like not value that

when Jalen actually does come through and is so awesome in the Super Bowl that year. obviously the fumble was kind of just unfortunate, but was just nails in that game. I have to go Jalen here. I thought Jalen was really good that year. And if you want to bring up on a moment's example, a touchdown he had against the Vikings,

I believe in Week 2 that year. That was just so, the one of he takes off running, kind of spinning through contact, like that rushing value of Jalen, which we haven't seen the same level since. Like that was really valuable. I did look at one other data point,

which is unfair to Donovan, because this did not exist. and we and I specifically poke fun at this thing because I've seen the way that it is pulled together in the locker room, the way the players vote on it and how little care they often give to it. But I did look at the NFL top 100 ranks. Okay.

To take a look at where these ranks ranked. So obviously this doesn't exist until after the 2010 season. So you can't include McNabb. But there are four years across the Eagles where they've had a player in the top 10. Okay. Two of them are running backs. Now, Sequin was number one after the 2024 season,

and Shady was number five after the 2013 season. Bowles after his 2013 season, which we talked about, great numbers. Number 70. That's how the league thought of him. Carson in 2017, number three. I remember that. The league had him all the way up to number three. I remember that.

And after 2022, Jalen was also number three. By the way, I think I may have gotten to the bottom of the Jalen Hertz, A.J. Brown beef. All three of the last years, Jalen has ranked ahead of A.J. Brown in the NFL top 100. I wonder if that is. You solved it. I think that that's what it is. I think A.J. was salty about that. So, I think that's more underscoring just how special everybody agreed to Carson Wend's season was in 2017.

Push come to shove. I'm giving this one to 2022, Jalen. Yeah. I think you have to. Right. So there we go. Full segment on the quarterbacks, 22, Jalen Hertz, will be our quarterback. Let's figure out the rest of the offense and maybe dip into the defense

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BLG. Let's talk offensive line. All right. Now, the future is bright, but we're actually, we're looking back at the past here on the best offensive line seasons of the Eagles this century. Left tackle. You know, Trey Thomas has three Pro Bowl seasons in the beginning of the decade or the century. Jordan Milana has been good lately, but I think we want to reward a Jason Peters season here, right?

Has to be. Now, do you go, he's got two years where he's in first team all pro. 2011 and 2013, which was his first year coming off of the Achilles injury, the first year of Chip Kelly. And he plays all 16 games that year. You know, he's a pro bowler every season

that he's a full-time starter for the Eagles. You could make a case for really any of these. It's hard for me to distinguish in my head too much of a difference between them except for 2013 does stand out to me because I remember him in the chip offense. And there was a lot being asked of the offensive line.

and he played all 16 games he excelled. The 16 games I did factor in here too. I thought availability was important and the fact that he, it was his age 31 season, so he's still like, you know, in his prime too here. Also kind of cool that he played at such a high level coming off of the Achilles injury, which is really unfortunate and bad in 2012.

So that's he had the setback with that, right? Because of the... Yeah, he retore it. Yeah. Because of the rollabout thing. Yeah, yeah. That's right. So yeah, I had to go with that, in part just because of how good that offense was, too. All right. So 2013, Jason Peters, we agree. It is the left tackle. Now, left guard.

I'm curious to see where you go with this. Well, there's only one all first team, all pro season here. That's right. And that is the same 2013 season, Evan Mathis. Yes. Which is a little bit embroiled in early pro football focus. This is like the enemy of you. You know, your pro football. No, but I liked Evan Mathis as a player. Sure.

And they were instructive in getting people to realize that he was a very good player. Yes. If I am thinking about this, I do probably feel like Landon Dickerson at his best was better than Evan Mathis at his best. Now, Landon Dickerson has three Pro Bowls, but no, first team all pro. Yep. I don't know. I'm open to being converted here. Did you go Evan Mathis?

I did go Evan Mathis. I just always liked him. You know, I thought he was a fun person to root for. So I'm a little biased there for sure. I think he's a little bit less scheme versatile. Okay. I think he has to be in a specific kind of offense. Maybe I'm wrong about that.

I think you're probably maybe feeling better about him in past protection. Like it's more of like technician, athleticism, then with like Landon. 2020 Landon as a road grader, especially putting, Landon next to JP, that's just so much man together next to each other. I'd heard over the years that, um, that like, maybe Evan Mathis and Jason Peters like

Yeah, they were not. Yeah, they were not. The best of friends. He didn't always deserve love, um, the play style there was contributed in part maybe to, you know, Evan Mathis, uh, departing. Um, when he did there. I'm not going to be the one to tell Jason Peters has got to play next to him again then. So, so, do I consider that? Because, you know,

maybe. Yeah. But he was so good. in 2013 too, that I ultimately I went with him there. I think this is the first time we disagree. Okay. I'm leaning towards Landon Dickerson. I'm probably 2022, which is only his second year.

He's a little bit more spry, more powerful than Mathis. More versatile, you could argue too. You could argue, that's true. I don't know, where does the chat fall on this one? I feel like we're getting a little bit of both. Now, Brandon Brooks' discussion, we will get to him. We are sticking two.

You've got to play the actual position. We can't just take two guards and two tackles. Yes. We'll table this for now. I'm going to slightly lean on Atlanta Dickerson. Okay. Now, center is very interesting. Because it's going to be Jason Kelsey.

And you've got to figure out which Jason Kelsey season. That was hard. It was hard. And I had an answer in my mind. But what I did, I did a little research here. Did a little reporting. Okay. DLG.

I reached out to the source. And what did you have as your answer? I had a hard time separating, but I went 22. 2022. Played all 17 games, first team all pro pro bowl. Now let me just set the stage for the Jason Kelsey career. I mean, everybody knows Jason Kelsey, 13 seasons with the team. But the way that we think about Jason Kelsey now, future Hall of Famer,

doesn't start until literally halfway through his career in 2017. That's the year of the Eagles win the Super Bowl. It's also his first year being named first team all pro, which he then does six of the next seven seasons. So his Hall of Fame case is basically made starting in 2017. That's what I had in my mind. And my understanding is that's the right answer.

And I've always been interested in for players who have been around for a long time, especially players where like seeing the field matter. So offensive linemen, linebackers, safeties, when it is that you have that sweet spot of, okay, like in the beginning of your career, you're accumulating this awareness, your understanding of the game is always growing.

But your athleticism is at a certain point declining. So when do those, when is the sweet spot where those two things intersect? I think it's fun that in 2017, 17, it seems like that is the case for Kelsey. And my understanding, as he also said, like, that is when he's coming off of a down year and puts in all of this work in the off season to correct these specific technical deficiencies that Stoutland and he were working on.

They also, like, changed the offense a little bit in some ways to help his game. He also gets to play next to Brandon Brooks, which helps him. and I think Brooks has talked about that as well, that their two styles meshed well. And if you want to get into like the myth-making, this is also when we get the Mummer's outfit and he turns into Jason Kelsey. So I'm going 2017, Jason Kelsey.

I will trust the expert on this one. That makes sense to me. I know I've heard him talk about that as well in terms of that turning point of his career. I'm looking up an old article we have at Bleeding Green Nation here where there were like trade rumors about Jason Kelsey from like May, 2017 where there was like a rumor about him being traded to the saints for Mark Ingram like and that wasn't like a you know that that seems insane now that was not like a

crazy thing at the time he had made the Pro Bowl too I believe in yeah 2016 yeah but it was one of those things where it kind of was almost like Cam Durgan's past year it didn't really feel deserved as much as he kind of earned it on reputation from not getting it in years past maybe so that makes sense to me that he would look at that as the turning point in his career all right go to right guard. And Brandon Brooks is awesome. Yeah. 2017, 2018, 2019,

elite, all of those years. There's also Sean Andrews in 2006. And that's the only first team all pro here. I was not covering that team. Yes. Everybody I know who has watched that team was like, that's as high level as we've ever seen anybody play. It's hard for me to not take Brandon Brooks having watched Brandon Brooks.

I don't know. this one I find tough. That is tough. Also before I'm covering the team, I'm also like probably two years into closely following the Eagles at that point in my life. I remember talking to my friends about Sean Andrews and like being enamored with him. But I just like I love Brandon Brooks the person too. And that's such a big part of this like I trust him implicitly to not only be awesome as a player,

but just like just a total rock as a person. and which year do you have for books I went 17 Super Bowl season as well for him I think Sean Andrews probably deserves

like it's closer than I think a lot of people would maybe think if you're just going to say Brandon Brooks what are you going to go? I'm happy to go

2017 Brandon Brooks okay I'm happy with that too Brown Brooks okay right tackle all respect to John Runyon but this is another this is Elaine Johnson

conversation I'm a little bit surprised only two first team all rows for Lane Johnson. Now they come in 2017 and 2022. I don't know that those are definitely the ones that we have to take, but I do think of 2017 as the year when like Lane really became a thing because that was the year where, and I think some credit to Jimmy Kemsky for I being the, I think being the first one to point out just a murderer's row. Yes. Of opposing pass rushers that he was shutting down that season. Yes. It was Khalil Mack and whoever else. Von Miller is in there. All of

guys he goes up against and completely shuts them down you also get into with lane most of these seasons he's missing some time mm-hmm 2017 he only misses one game now I think that was the the final game in the season he didn't actually miss it uh 2023 same thing 22 he misses too i am leaning 2017 here as well they also are missing jason peters for a good chunk of the 2017 season you could be if you want to argue that teams are sending like extra you know pressure or whatever from that side of the defense or are you going away from that. I think that's what I came down to.

I wrote down for Lane. I wrote 2017. I'm going 2017 as well. So that's interesting. The best season for the offensive line, we're going three members next to each other from that 2017 season with Kelsey Brooks and Lane Jones. Yes. I mean, they played the perfect game in the Super Bowl.

It's hard to argue. All right, let's close the book on The Future is Bright, presented by Shady Rays. where we're going to go on Dickerson, Mathis. I think given the construction of the offensive line, I'm going to say we lean Dickerson. I think representative of eras too,

if you want to put that in here, not just have like 2013 and have nothing in the 2020s when they went to the Super Bowl twice and won one one. I think that's fair to go. Or 2024 then, do you make the case? Because that's like that, the offensive line itself deserves some.

I think 2024, Landa Dickerson, I'm okay with? I like that. Let's do that. Okay. 2024, Landon Dickerson against the left guard spot. So the offense in total, the elite season for the Eagles. At quarterback 22, Jalen Hertz, at running back, 24, Sequin Barclay. At wide receiver, 2004 T.O. and 2022, A.J. Brown. 2018, Zackert, a tight end. An offensive line of 2013, Jason Peters, 2004, Lane to Dickerson,

and 2017, Jason Kelsey, Brandon Brooks, Lane Johnson, and then our flex, I think we're not going to go to Leonard Weaver. Yeah.

Respect to Leonard Weaver. 2013 or 2010 to Sean Jackson. I'm kind of partial in 2010 to Sean Johnson. You like the bit part of it. Yeah, he's also a better punt returner that year. That is fair.

I didn't know how deeper going in the special teams. I did write down some special teams too. I think 09 was his best year, but that's only one year off of that at that point in 2010 for... 2010. You also got the miracle. It's true.

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We turn to the defensive side of the ball now. Now we should say, I don't think I said this in the beginning, you can't take the same guy twice. Yeah. You can't just have two Fletcher Coxes at defensive tackle, even though that would be the right answer here. That's what came to mind. The first time I was doing this activity.

That's even more than like two A.J. Browns or whatever. If you could get two Fletcher Cox's, that would be the most important one. For Fletcher, let's start there. Do you go, now his first, his only season for the first team all pro is 2018. In my mind, I think of 2017 as like the best Fletcher Cox season. What about you? I was between those two, the Panthers game. from 2017, where it wasn't even sure he was going to play.

I think he was, less as doubtful. Yes, it was Thursday night game. Thursday night game, short week, and like you just saw the difference that having him back even in a diminished, quote unquote, diminished state is made for the team as a whole in that defense. So I think that's fair. Now, he does miss two games that year. The following year, when he gets that first team all pro, it's the most sacks he's

ever had in the season. It's 10 and a half. I'm open to giving it to the 28. season just for the production, even though I kind of think of 2017 as the best. Yeah, I wrote down 18, but I think you're right between them. Let's do it 2018. Now, tough call on the other defensive tackle spot. Guys who have made the Pro Bowl, you've got Jalen Carter in 2004 and 2025.

You've got Javon Hargrave in 2021. I kind of think that 2002 is just as good for Hargrave. Yeah. And then you've got Corey Simon in 2003. I think about Jalen Carter in 2024 when they played the Saints and the Saints couldn't do anything on offense because Zil and Carter decided he didn't want them to do anything on offense that day.

Like the high watermark there, the amount of snaps he played, the sheer amount of workload he was able to handle. Like players can rarely do that. You have the moment in the playoffs where the Eagles are never closer to having their season end and they are against the Rams and he comes through in the biggest moment of all. The consistency,

It's not been there always for Jailen Carter, but the high water mark is so high that I wanted to eat that. I think you've sold me. You've sold me on the playoff moments that matters here. That counts for sure. And yeah, I mean, the high watermarks are there. Hargrave, it's more part of a larger portion. And I think the key point you said is how many snaps he played.

I think he deserves credit for that. So yeah, I'm happy to go, I'm happy to go 2024 Jalen Carter. I took one of your own points about Jalen Carter to sell you on that. So that's something I'm going to fight because you're always stressing. He played a lot of that season. It's true. Yeah, that's very good. All right.

Now, would you guess, I did ask this on the show the other day, so you may have heard it. But do you know which edge player has the most sacks in the season for the Eagles this century? Yes. It's unfortunately, inexplicably, I would say, Jason Baboon. Jason Babin. Insane. What year? Is it 2011?

Yes. Most sacks in the season. 18. He's not going to be the answer here. Hassan Reddick is 16 in 2022. Hugh Douglas, 15 in 2000. Connor Barwin, who I think deserves some consideration here with 14 and a half in 2014

and doing much more than that in coverage. And then Trent Cole, you sort of want to get him involved here 2007 and 2009. Those are his Pro Bowl seasons, 12 and a half sacks. To me, the one that I am absolutely pending in here is Reddick in 2022. Yeah. Because he was not a better...

all around player necessarily than any of Cole or Hugh Douglas or maybe even Barwin. But he was the, I mean, he was the baddest man on that team. Yep. And you want to talk about playoff moments? Yes. He was absolutely wrecking games. I have no question that he deserves one of these two spots. I have him on here.

He was the leading sacker on that defense that tied for the third most ever sacks in one season in NFL history and just two off the lead. He had five forced fumbles that season. So these are like high impact sacks too, not just like Jeepies. Kind of like maybe Jason Babbins or. And there's only five instances in Eagles franchise history or an Eagles Defender had a single season with more than five force fumbles and it was only six. So I think that's a there was something to Assan Redick

where he came through in big spots he was clutch and very impactful. The other spot, if you're looking for Trent Cole to get him involved, you know, you can make the case. 2007 and 2009, both very good. He's second team all pro in 2009. I think we'd love to get BG involved, but I think with the beauty of BG is the consistency over time,

and not necessarily the high watermarks. My lean here is in part because we have not really rewarded too much from the earlier eras. 2000 Hugh Douglas, first team all pro, 15 sacks, 21 tackles for loss. We know that he was an all-around player. I would like to maybe give a nod to the early 2000s and go Hugh Douglas here. I will defer there.

I was only like eight or nine at that point. I don't have the feel. Yeah, the feel of that one or total appreciation for that. I had 09 Trent Cole in part just because I want Trent Cole on my team as a defensive end. I was thinking about how you guys did the body part activity, the friend. I was like Trent Cole's eyes from the standpoint of his eyes. No doubt about it. The best.

I love just like that had to be so intimidating. I don't know how many quarterbacks were actually looking at that. But I feel like if you were somehow, that would be a very intimidating thing. So I just love Trent Cole so much that I wanted to have him on here. But I'm happy to defer to Hugh dollars. I think let's give it. Yeah, let's give it to Hugh. I'm, you know, I think Trent will come out ahead of Hugh on the 26 rankings.

Sure. We're going to give Hugh the nod this time. Linebacker. I think we know who the two are and we know what one of them for sure is. Okay. And that's 20204, Zach Bond. Yeah. I mean,

insane. One of the best seasons we've ever seen. Completely changed the way we think about linebackers in this city, completely changed the way that Howard Rosebun values linebackers, the best player, the key player to turning that defense into the best defense in football. And as we said before, one of those awesome impressions, first team on the first year on the team, makes the first team all pro. Zach Bonn, 24 is one of the two linebackers here.

Absolutely. The other one, I think we, I mean, it should be a Jeremiah Trotter season. This is again, this is a little bit before our time. Now you can go 2000, which is his only year as a first team all pro, but he's also a pro bowler in 2001, 2004, and 2005. My lean here is to just go with 2000 to make it easy. Is there anybody else that you want to have in consideration here? I think 2016 Jordan Hicks deserves a little bit more credit than most people would think.

Okay. Was that Eagles team good? No. Was the defense good? They were fourth in DVOA that season. and he had five interceptions, 11 passes defense, six TFLs, and five quarterback hits. Those are like really good numbers.

And that was a time where it looked like Jordan Hicks might be the next great Eagles defensive player. Couldn't stay healthy. Obviously, he went elsewhere. But he was really good that season on a defense that was pretty good. And I think he deserves at least mentioning here. Okay.

I think that's a good call. I also loved Nigel in 2017. Yes. It was great. You know, filling in for the injured Jordan Hicks. Was all over the place. He also, that Panthers game was a, was a monster game for him as well.

There's a shot for 2004 Jeremiah Trotter, which is, of course, when he comes back, but he gets the job halfway through the season. I'm going to go 2000, Jeremiah Trotter. Okay. Cornerback now. I think there's another one here where we can pen it in. And that is nickel where, listen.

Yeah. 2017 Patrick Robinson, had Cooper DeGine never existed, I think could probably be the answer here. The early 2000s had some great guys, even Hoselle O'Hanson had some good years in the mid-2000s. But last year, Cooper DeGine, 2025 Cooper DeGine, to me is, just like Bonn was the key, the 24 defense. I thought Cooper DeGine was the key to last year's defense. He also gets first team all pro. I'm going 2025 Cooper DeGine.

I think from a moment's perspective, 24. has some more vivid ones that like staying out the top of my mind. You think about the Jamartate's tackle against the Bengals in that game on fourth down, which is just like a crazy play for a rookie to make. And also speaks to how. The Derek Henry. Derek Henry. Yeah.

So that absolutely, you know, it's tough because they're both really good, but it has to be Cooper either way. Okay. So we've got our nickel. Now it's tough. And just like we had the conversation on how do you rank these guys, it's very difficult to parse the best seasons here. In terms of first team all pro, it is just Troy Vincent in 2002 and Alito Shepard in 2004.

But Asante's got Pro Bowl years from 2008 to 2010 and he's got a bunch of picks. Darius Slay has Pro Bowl seasons from 2021 to 2023. You can throw James Bradbury's 2022 in there. And of course you could throw in Quignon Mitchell each of the past two seasons. How does the chat feel about this one? And by the way, the chat did come in favor of Landon Dickerson. A slight edge. Nice.

Lindsay running that poll. I, my, this is tough. It is tough. To me, it comes down to Troy Vincent in 2002, Slay in 2022, probably Quinyan last year, and then pick your Asante season.

Probably. I went 09 for that. 09 or Asante. I think that's probably the right one. You had nine interceptions. And then, a force fumble in there too. Yeah. And he was second team all pro. Find this one tough. I think I want the takeaways. I'm going to be a real Nick Siriani here and lean into,

you know, 09 Asante. Oh nine Asante. With who? Hooper at slot. And then what I have written down here, I'm not the, I'm not the biggest slave fan. I'm lower on him than consensus. So I'll admit that. I just don't, he doesn't jump into here to me. as what we should, if we're narrowing it down, obviously he's in the conversation. I think, I think it's to be Troy. Troy Vincent there is, if you're just looking for turnovers,

he's got five picks in 2000 and only two in 2022, but I think, or 2002, but I think the fact that he was a first team all pro that year sort of tells that story. And there's also Quinnian. Yeah. And if I'm getting the picks from Asante, if like we can factor that in,

And Coenians first team all pro last year with with no interceptions, just tells you how much he was blanketing guys. But it gets interceptions in the playoffs when it counts. Man. I'm happy to put Quinyan in here if we're going Asante and then coop in the slot. Does it feel too much recency bias? Are we not representing the eras enough? I don't know.

Cunia was first team all pro last year. That doesn't feel crazy to me. Are we being seduced by Asante's interceptions? Yes. But all that thickness is how you get there. That's right. Oh, man. This is tough.

You're going to have to find out the answer. It's hard because you're comparing eras, right? Yeah. And I don't have any doubt that like 20 years of evolution, Quinean Mitchell in 2025 is a better player than Troy Vincent in 2002. but was Troy a bigger difference maker relative to his peers? Yeah. I think the fact that we only have three other people from like 2009 or earlier.

Okay. And that's Hugh Douglas, Jeremiah Trotter, and T.O. I think we should give a nod to Troy Vincent. Okay. And you want to go, you want to go with 2009 Asante? Yeah. you're the Asante guy I know I'm the Asante guy

I'm happy to go 2009 Asante I kind of think if we're going Asante I want to go Quignan Okay I'm gonna go 2009 The balance of those guys Just like you're taking Deshawn In 2010 in part

Yeah and we're getting We're taking Dickerson Because he fits better with that group I think if you have Asante Yes You need Quinyon to be the true shutdown I'm gonna go to 2025 Quinyon That makes sense

Okay That leaves just safety And we know who the two guys are going to be. The question here is just which seasons do you pick? Let's start with Malcolm Jenkins. Which Malcolm season do you go? I go 2017 because I don't think

you can take out the intangibles of that as you kind of talked about on the show. I'll never forget in my entire life the tenor he had what he said in the locker room after the Rams game where

everyone, including yourself, a lot of people, like writing the season off. because that's how it felt. And Malcolm, not for a second, like, did not hesitate. It was like, this does not change anything. Like, we are going forward. And I think that, in addition to being an awesome player, a versatile player, looking back at his snap counts from that season

and some of the charting, he's playing like at linebacker and slot cornerback and safety and outside cornerback. Special teams too. Special team. I think that doesn't get enough credit. He's playing like a lot on special teams. That's just like a play. It's a championship caliber player.

Yeah, I think you could make a statistical case for 18, but you can't tell the story of a 2017 team without Malcolm Jenkins. I think leadership alone, 2017 Malcolm gets that spot. And then Brian Dawkins, where are we going to go here? You know, this is a Hall of Fame career filled with nothing but Pro Bowl seasons. First team all pro in 2001, 2002, 2004. 2006. Now, there are some years in there where he only played 14, 15 games, so maybe you lop it off. 2002, it's the most statistically full season.

Yes. But I'm really like, I am, I didn't experience those seasons the same way. So I'm just sort of talking out of my butt here. Same. But 2002 is, he gets votes for a defensive player of the year. He was third in the defensive player of the year voting, which he didn't get any other season. without having the first-hand experience or getting to talk to anybody

who could speak to it better in terms of the differences of the seasons, I'm gonna go 2002. I have O2 written down here. He's five forced fumbles. Again, that's like, that's a lot. There's only been, as I said earlier, a handful of players who've had ever more than that

in an Eagles season. It was in the number of six. So I went with O2 for talking. All right. Now you said you did a little bit of special teams work. Yes. What did you do? Yes.

So I did kicker, punter, long sniper, punt returner, and kick returner. Oh, okay. Yeah. So I didn't do this work. So I'm curious here. Is kicker 2017 Elliott or is there 2001 David Acres is a big season, I believe? I put 23 Elliott. 23 Elliott.

Okay. And also, again, I'm a big moments guy, as I've referenced in these. He has the kick against the bills in like the storm. That was an insane kick for him to make. I think there were some other games that year where he really like kind of bailed them out and carried them. Um, you know, is it the most like, does it make the most sense from not being a championship season? It's kind of nice for there to be, you know, someone from that season, but yeah. Uh, Potter, I have, great to man.

Okay. Uh, he has the best net average in franchise history in 2020. Okay. Not the most exciting thing. You could, I think you can throw Donnie Jones in there. I like to Donnie Jones. Uh, long snapper, hard to go through the season. Jeez.

But it's, it's John Dorinboss. I went 09. Do you give Doran Boss one? Okay. I think he was a pro-war. Perl Turner, you go Deshawn, even though Westbrook deserves consideration. And Sproles.

And Sproles, yeah. Sproles had, like, some really good numbers. Yeah. And then who's your kickoff returner? Um, for kick returner, I went, Brian, uh, 2002, Brian Mitchell.

Brian Mitchell. He had 27 yards per return that season for context. Eagle's leader, uh, among qualified returners in kick return average is Steve Van Buren with 26.7. So that's like 27 yards per turns a crazy number. Nice.

Let me recap the defense for you one more time here before we go. Defense, the best seasons. We have 2002 Hassan Reddick and 2000 Hugh Douglas on the edge. 2018 Fletcher Cox and 2024 Jalen Carter. 2000 Jeremiah Trotter and 2024, Zach Bond at linebacker. The secondary is 2002, to Brian Dawkins and 2017 Malcolm Jenkins with 2009 Asante Samuel,

2025 Cooper de Gene and 2025 Winjaun Mitch. Do you think this team goes 20 and O? If this team doesn't go 20 and O, I don't know how any team could. I think they might lose one game. To who? How could this team lose a game?

I don't know. I think they, maybe they get too little too high in themselves. I guess you wouldn't if you have Malcolm, if you have some good leadership here. It would be crazy, I guess, if they didn't go 20-0. Now, hold on. Let me figure out what I want to do is which year has the most representation. Let me figure this out very quickly.

In terms of year, the most represented team, and I think you would guess this. Oh, not actually, it's tied. So 2017, we have four. We have the three offensive linemen and Malcolm Jenkins. 2022, there are three, AJ, Hassan Redick, and Jalen Hertz. And then 2024, there are four again. Jalen Carter, Landon, Dickerson,

Sakewan, Barkley, Zach Bonn. So I think that that's right. The Super Bowl season's the most represented. Only one from 2004 in T.O. But I think that's a little bit of recency bias, and I think that that's fine. Are you taking Andy to coach the team? I guess you had to pick an Andy year.

I think now we had this conversation at the very end of the discussion with us. It does. I think the single best season for a coach is 2017 Doug. Yeah, I agree, actually. I think I would, you know, I would want Andy in the aggregate. Sure. But if you're talking about one season, I agree. I think it's-

2017 Doug. 2024, Vic as the defensive coordinator, right? All of respect to Jeff Johnson, but I feel like they went from worst. At the best defense in the NFL. Yeah. And then offensive coordinator, I think the inclination is to think 22 stuyken but I feel like there's got to be a better

I mean just give me Andy calling plays from early 2000s yeah it's hard to pick one of those offensive coordinators right because of that maybe like you know working around not having TO so like 2002-2003 Andy calling plays or something

what if you could have 2013 chip as your offensive coordinator no thanks I know well yeah I know you're not going to take chip as a person there I'm good there you go All right, that was fun. Good stuff. Thank you, BLG, for going through that exercise with us.

Let us know if there are any picks that you disagree with in the comments. Who's your quarterback? What do you think of the cornerback selection? That's the one I think is maybe most difficult. And then stay tuned for tomorrow's episode. Fran will join me as we unveil and reveal number 26 and number 25. Both of their names said during today's show. that's all I'm going to tell you.

Stay tuned. Thank you, Lindsay. We'll talk to tomorrow at 2 o'clock. And as always, we love you.