PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - Saquon Barkley tops 300 yards as Philadelphia Eagles sprint past Los Angeles Rams, move to 9-2

Episode Date: November 25, 2024

Saquon Barkley’s 70-yard touchdown run to open the second half helped the Eagles break away from the Los Angeles Rams on their Sunday Night Football trip out West. A.J. Brown topped 100 yards and de...fense bounced back from a disappointing start to stifle Matthew Stafford, Cooper Kupp and Puka Nacua. Milton Williams, Brandon Graham and the Eagles’ pass rush dominated the line of scrimmage as the Eagles kept pace with the best of the NFC. Join Super Bowl champion Vinny Curry, Fran Duffy, Jamie Lynch and Bo Wulf as they unpack the Eagles’ big win before Zach Berman joins live from SoFi Stadium.   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 The P.HLY Eagles postgame show presented by Bet365. Download the Bet365 app. Use code PHLY 365 when you sign up whatever the moment. It's never ordinary at Bet365. And we have a very extraordinary game to discuss as the Eagles win 37 to 20 on Sunday night football in Los Angeles. I am joined by Super Bowl champion Vinnie Curry. Jamie Lynch, Fran Duffy. I am Bo Wolf.
Starting point is 00:01:06 We'll hear from Zach Berman, live from SoFi Stadium in a little bit, and hear from Nick Siriani as well. But we have to start tonight with the obvious. The Eagles have the ball fourth and seven at the end of the first half, seven seconds left, and they call a quarterback draw? Just kidding. Let's talk about Seekwon. Vinny.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Hit us with it. Seekw! MVP, man. I mean, he is, every week. What is like the last two games he got over? What? 500 yards four touchdowns. Sequon Barkley in this game,
Starting point is 00:01:40 26 carries for 255 yards, 302 yards from scrimmage, the most rushing yards in a game for any eagle ever, the most yards from scrimmage in a game for any eagle ever. Two carries of 70 plus yards for a touchdown. The guy has been unbelievable. And as you were chanting when we were doing the watch-along, and we can hear you in the other room, Vinny.
Starting point is 00:02:07 MVP MVP. MVP. Bro. He's insane every week. I mean, Adrian Peterson was the last guy 12 years ago to take home an MVP award as a running back. And I remember AP just being insane.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Sequin feels better. Like, this guy, I read the numbers to Fran right before we came in here. He's had three games within 13 yards of 200 yards per game. And then today, like he's making 200-yard games from scrimmage. It seems normal. Yeah. We can't normalize this. He had more yards from scrimmage than the Rams in the game, 290 yards from scrimmage. The Giants had 234 yards passing and rushing today. I need a live stream of John Mara and Joe Shane in absolute hell right now. I would pay top
Starting point is 00:02:57 dollar to watch that. Yeah, I mean, Joe Shane, don't pick up the phone. Not at all. On the season, Sequin Barclay has 1392 yards rushing. That is already his career high. All of the stats are going to come out about them in the next 24 hours. Every single one is going to top the next. He is 50 plus yards this season. He is, you know, he has 6.2 yards per carry on the season for any running back this century with at least 200 carries. That's the second best yards per carry ever.
Starting point is 00:03:31 I mean, there are hundreds of stats you could use, but it's like suffice to say that this game is tight coming out of the half, right? It's 13.7. The Eagles did have that very weird situation at the end of the first half. And it takes one handoff the first play of the second half. Sequoan goes 70 yards for a touchdown. And all of a sudden, everybody exhales and all those Eagles fans who were in attendance because it was a super heavy Eagles show out at SoFi Stadium,
Starting point is 00:04:00 everybody can all of a sudden exhale because like that is that is the pressure release that Sequin has been for this offense all season long. Did you say he was averaging 6.2 a carry? Yes. Adrian Peterson and his MVP is an average six yards of care. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:16 There's only one. There's a Jamal Charles season when he was 6.4. But Sequin has been unbelievable. You mentioned the two touchdown runs of 70 plus. The first player in NFL history to do that in a half. Okay. I mean, just what he has been, I wrote this week about how he's been potentially the best closer in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Jamie, we were talking about his second half stats and what he's done in the second half of games for this offense and being able to close out games, seal victories. I mean, he's, he's their, obviously, their most viable player. And you would make the argument the most valuable in the league. Yeah, I mean, if you go into a half with the lead, it's game over. That's simple. The guy is unbelievable. He is not only winning games for the Eagles and taking names from opponents and then putting those guys on dust. He's taking your voice away again.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Oh, man, I'm too right. Listen, but let's be honest. We haven't. Have you ever seen anything like this? We haven't seen this much excitement coming out of the backfill in a long time. It's almost hard to believe what we're watching. And it's so crazy because it's not, I mean, listen, the 70-yard touchdown. touchdowns, the 50-year touchdowns are insane.
Starting point is 00:05:30 And they are like, it's crazy that he is a big play himself waiting to happen. But it is also like even the normal carries that should go for two yards. He's turning into eight yards. Or like the way that he will just turn the corner up the sideline and get, just steal an extra four yards or like drop his shoulder into a defender. And we will have to have the conversation about how like what his workload is. It's a lot of touches. He had 30 touches in this game. but he doesn't look any worse for wear right now.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Like that, he has a 70-whatever-yard touchdown at the very end of the game, and it looks like the first carry of the game to him. Yeah, man, I think coming into the game, yeah, what? $199 carries. Something like that, yeah, right. You know, so, damn.
Starting point is 00:06:15 He's cold, right? What does that do to a defense? They punch in the air. Because if you can't stop the run in the way he is, like he's law and you run. You don't even bust one. You bust another one. He just took the soul out of you.
Starting point is 00:06:30 It was crazy, man. And that's the thing is, when you run the ball like the Eagles do and you play defense the way that the Eagles do, you know, it's just, it's very tough to go up, go into a matchup against this team and feel confident because the offense
Starting point is 00:06:44 and the rushing game feels inevitable. At some point, he's going to break one of those long runs. You know that you've got Jaylon, you've got A.J., healthy Devante, the past game, you're going to get some explosives there. So you've got to come. come into a game against the Eagles thinking you're going to score 28, 30 points.
Starting point is 00:06:59 And against his defense, that just has not been able to happen against Vic Fangio's unit. And then if you stack the box, somebody's going to, he not going to be. Yeah, AJ Brown's out there. The first person I'm going to tackle it. This is not happening. Yeah. Yep. And in this game, you know, without Devante Smith, the Eagles are able to put up 37 points because
Starting point is 00:07:17 of Sequin. I mean, as a passing offense, Jalen Hertz, throws for 179 yards, 15 of 22, and a touchdown, AJ Brown, six for 109. in a touchdown. And it's like, AJ Brown can go over 100 yards and can be arguably the best wide receiver in the NFL this season
Starting point is 00:07:34 and is probably the second most exciting player on the offense. It's insane. Yeah, and that's the thing is that you have AJ who, you know, Ho Hum had 100 yards or something tight. But I think when you've got that rushing attack
Starting point is 00:07:46 to be able to come in and just to dominate and assert your will with Sequin Barkley, it's an X factor for this team going into the post season. And you can tell like how much fun. he's having. Like you saw it tonight in his celebrations and his kind of like jukes and is like he was almost toying with the defense. Yeah. And I think he he realizes that playing behind this offensive line
Starting point is 00:08:07 is just like the greatest thing he's probably experienced on a football field. That dude is having a effing blast on the field. Yeah. I mean, we talked about it obviously in the off season when they signed him. The like the theory of adding Sequin to this team where there are weapons to take away attention from the opposing defense. You've got Jalen Hertz in the backfield, so that's something for the run defense to have to account for. He played behind such bad offensive lines in New York. Now he gets to play behind the best offensive line of football.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Last year, you know, D'Andre Swift was getting what was blocked, but he wasn't breaking stuff at the second level. If he gets into the second level, what could Sequin do? And like all of those, what if both these scenarios, were still underselling just how, like, offensive, identity changing he has been for them. Uh-oh. Yeah, we got bad news.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Bad news. Brandon Graham tells reporters this season is over. Torr's tricep. He played on his mind tonight. He played so good. He had six pressures, two hits in the quarterback, two TFLs, a sack and a PBO tonight. Give the man an extension right now.
Starting point is 00:09:16 I'm new TFL's two, though. Two. Yeah, you're going to add that to him. Zach, yeah, Zach has tweeted. He says he's at for the season. notorious triceps. Sorry to be a bummer on the Sequin High. Yeah, such terrible news. Brennan Graham at 38 years old,
Starting point is 00:09:30 becoming third. Arguably the best football of his career was dominating tonight. Yeah, he wasn't even playing like old man good. He was just flat out playing great football. Yeah. And Vinny, you said when watching the game, you were like, he's almost at the point where you have to start him. He's playing that good.
Starting point is 00:09:47 God, that's a bummer. Now, well, let's stick on. Yeah, yeah. right around the high there. Let's stick here because this is. That's such a bummer. Terrible news. And also impactful news for this defense,
Starting point is 00:10:01 which we can get into. But from a human standpoint, Vinnie, I mean, you played so long with BG. He had this go-away season and was playing at such an unbelievably high level. What do you feel for him? It sucks. It sucks.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Especially, this was like, the best game of the season for him. You know, he was such dominant. That awesome sack. Mike wants you to suit up, Vinny. You got a couple snaps in you? Nah. Well, you saw at the end of this game.
Starting point is 00:10:37 I mean, they have already put Bryce Huff on injured reserve. And so J.L.X. Hunt got bumped up. But now to lose Brandon Graham, you saw what happened at the end of the game. They were playing Zach Bond as a defensive end, not as sort of that overhang player. They were playing him as a true defensive end at the end of that game. this is really going to change the shape of the defense because you talk about who they have on the outside. Nolan Smith has been playing very well.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Josh Schwett had a good game tonight, although he got banged up as well. But after those two guys, for a defense that wants to rotate, although a little bit less so than years past, but still, now all of a sudden J.LX Hunt becomes a very important player, and you're going to need to find,
Starting point is 00:11:17 whether it is, you know, Taran Jackson from the practice squad, or just leaning into Zach Bonn are probably more likely like Milton Williams playing on the outside. This is going to really change the shape of that pass rush. Yeah, that's a, I don't think there's one player on the roster that would, you know, take away from the high of Sequin more than BG, you know, like, and he's just, Vinny, you can talk to it. I mean, he's the guy that keeps you loose in the locker room.
Starting point is 00:11:43 He's always smiling, maybe farting, just keeping people loose smack talking at the coin toss. Just kind of like overall keeping a great level. for everyone and I'm sure that's felt. He got it. And when things get a little out of whack, he can put a fire out. You know, damn it sucks.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Yeah, that's a, that's a brutal blow. I hope that and you hope that's not that his career ends. Nah, he'll be back. No, he was playing too good. He got to give him another year.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Oh, if you don't go like that over a lot, he got to come back. Oh, man, that is such a bummer. Do you make that if you're BG? Every time they go. to LA. I know. I was thinking that too. But if you're BG, like,
Starting point is 00:12:25 do you make that call now? Like, I'm going to go through rehab. You let it sit, right? You just get yourself back together, man, because listen. I mean, you're going to want the, you're going to want the triset back and no matter what, right? How many times we do it sit here and watch them, coming in the fourth quarter or third quarter
Starting point is 00:12:42 and start going crazy. Right. Yep. Yeah, we had a lot of fun on the watch along tonight. I hope a lot of you guys joined us, and we look forward to doing those again in the future. Fran and I call on the game and Jamie and Vinnie coming in throughout. We had a lot of fun. We were talking about Brandon Graham
Starting point is 00:12:59 the way that he is playing this season. He is already thought of as this upper pantheon player in franchise history. He made the most important plague in the history of the franchise. And yet he was still rising because of how good he was this season. I mean, we were joking about like a defensive player
Starting point is 00:13:15 of the year votes because if you just factor in how old he is, he's been unbelievable. This is such a good. a killer. And you hate to be down after the Eagles win their seventh game in a row and look to be a real contender for the number one seed in the NFC. This is just, you feel bad for the guy because he is, as you said, the voice of the locker room. Just the personality of the locker room. He's kind of like the trendsetter, right? Like, you know, he's out there at the coin toss today, you know, smack talk in the Rams because they won the coin toss. Like, you
Starting point is 00:13:50 just can't forget the play on the field you can't reproduce what he brings to this team you know there's just nobody else they can do it so taran jacks on the practice squad there's one other defense on the practice squad of the guy your boy who would they signed on Friday oh right oh Sean Mathis yes
Starting point is 00:14:06 although he may have served his purpose yeah David Ananag who they released from the practice squad Aquara who they had in the summer he's with Arizona now Terrell Lewis yeah had a solid summer but yeah at least was with the team during camp so that was the option speed right yeah yeah right
Starting point is 00:14:27 but those would be i guess like the options that they would be familiar with unless there's you know guys and the veteran on the the free agent market that they're that feel comfortable uh bringing in trying to think of who else would do it would make sense i think it's more likely to be like lean on toron jackson milton williams yeah and well milton played really well tonight he did on in some situations right yeah milton was awesome tonight um Yeah, I mean, I think the other question, I mean, Bonn has been so good as a linebacker that you don't want to take him now You don't want to weaken two spots like you know Here and there the name that that I wonder if they have regrets on is Patrick Johnson
Starting point is 00:15:05 Yeah, that was a guy that they cut after the season began and you know they were and they didn't need to do the waivers they didn't need to need to Then he ended up getting picked up with the Giants and he's still he's playing snaps for the giants on defense right now Yeah, that's a bummer man, that's such a bummer. Oh, man, of anybody. All right. Well, we are here to commiserate with you on that front and also discuss the otherwise very impressive performance from the Eagles. Hit us up with the super chats and happy to see everybody who is here with us. We'll hear from Nick Siriani in just a little bit and also Zach Berman. On the defensive front, if we move away from from Sequin for a
Starting point is 00:15:44 minute, started, disappointing is too heavy, but it was not a good start for the Eagles defense. The Rams go right down the field and then Isaiah Rogers and his first snap in the game for Darius Slay, who by the way, suffered a concussion in this game and did not return. That's another concern. Isaiah Rogers forces a fumble. They do a good job there, but the Rams had driven down the field. Their next possession, they drive right down the field for a touchdown. You're thinking, okay, this little chess match where Sean McFay has been waiting to face
Starting point is 00:16:14 Vic Fangio for so long, maybe he's going to get the best of him. And then from there and out, the defense really stepped it up. Three straight, three and outs after that. The pass rush on third down was fantastic. Over four on third down for the Rams in this game. Oh, for eight. Oh, for eight. Although they picked up a few fourth downs.
Starting point is 00:16:29 And throughout the game, they did end up getting some plays. But that little stretch there after the first two possessions was when the Eagles defense made its impact. Yeah. You saw the pass rush come alive. The coverage did not stand. We were during the watch along, just looking at, looking at the box score and Matthew
Starting point is 00:16:45 Stafford had like seven completions for 67 yards. They just were not giving up those big chunk plays which has been the hallmark of this defense to the majority of the year. You saw that again the pass rush come alive and everybody's chipping in. You get a sack from BG, a sack from Milton Williams, get a sack from the second level. And I saw the sack later, Jalen Carter, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:04 knife thing into the backfield and creating the sack for Milton Williams. So you saw everybody chipping in in that way. But again, just the overall team defense, the coverage on the back end was suffocated. and Saford had nowhere to go with the ball more often than not. Yeah, Super Chat that just came in on the topic here from Pav P. Bo. It says McVeigh keeping the starters in down 23 points with 240-40 left on the clock
Starting point is 00:17:27 just so they can crack 20 points. Fangio really is his daddy. Yeah, I think that's right. I loved watching flustered Sean McVeigh tonight. Something about that guy's face just drives me nuts. It's okay. And the Eagles have the upper. Hand versus Boy Genius.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Yeah, they have. They have. Doug P. had it. Mostly done him very well. Vic Fangio's got it. And now, you know, Nick Siriani's got it. Stafford goes 24 of 36 for 243 yards, two touchdowns and a quarterback rating of 104. 3. Pukinakua, nine catches for 117 yards.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Cooper Cup, eight for 60 in a touchdown, although that was a pretty quiet eight for 60, a low impact eight for 60 from Cooper Cup. I thought they did a good job tracking him across the field. Finney, from that defensive line, BG aside, what did you see from this past rush? Especially on those like third and long situations when it's, you got a rush, they really got it done. I think the game, excuse me, the game plan for the Rams was double team. Yes, yep. They showed the stats on the broadcast.
Starting point is 00:18:34 It was his highest double team rate of his career. Right. But look at the end play. everybody winning one-on-ones most of the night so now you had to like damn
Starting point is 00:18:45 pick your poison type of thing I love the way they rushed together tonight what in particular stood out on that front like was it a cohesive
Starting point is 00:18:54 rush plan or just as you said guys just winning their one-on-ones guys just winning their one-on-ones and then the one played of the two tagu stunts
Starting point is 00:19:04 you know they try to free them up a little bit with a million William's sack that they thought it was pretty cool Josh Scott Sets was a good rush And like I said
Starting point is 00:19:14 Brandon Graham was dominant Most of the night Yeah that right tackle They had that right tackle On hell Rich Hoffman just Quote tweeted Your tweet Beau
Starting point is 00:19:22 From 2018 Where it said One man leaves the locker room Protecting the trophy And he said Let's go make that BG this year Oh I love that
Starting point is 00:19:29 No that's that was JP Remember JPE Is the one who carries The locker room Out of the So if BG wants to be The official trophy carrier This year
Starting point is 00:19:37 I think that's a, you know, a great way to cap the year. Next gen has some numbers on Jalen Carter. So he ended up being double teamed on 22 of his 35 pass rushes, which was the second highest double team rate that he had faced in a game this season. 62.9% now it was 75% at one point. So they double they backed off on the double teams. But they held them just one pressure on those 35 snaps. So the double teams were able to work against Carter.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Bo, the big thing, though, he played every single snap of the first fifth of the first And then once the backups came in. So he played the Quignan touchdown doesn't count because it was garbage time. Same thing like garbage time. So he played 114 straight stats going back to last, going back to week 10. That's insane. That's crazy. Mike Golick Jr. tweeted that from a defensive tackle.
Starting point is 00:20:25 He tweeted out Jalen Carter's club and rip is sending dudes into the shadow realm. Every snap for defensive tackle that's nuts. at what point like for you obviously you know it's going to be different but at what point where you're like all right like coach you know give me give me a little bit more like you guys were yeah yeah yeah first was the only person yeah right yeah all right much more to come including nick syriani and zach berman but first we take a little pause to hear from our sponsors Construction time. C Jam Construction is a family-owned home remodeler specializing in decks, bathroom, and flooring. Their goal is to help their clients alleviate the challenges and frustrations that come with home remodeling.
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Starting point is 00:23:06 celebrate responsibly, Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 96 calories per 12 ounces, fewer calories and carbs than premium regular beer. Fred, what did you see them change on defense after those first two drives that led to success? Yeah, I mean, the big thing we started noticing and it was towards the end of that second drive, the touchdown drive, was that they started going into more of those odd fronts with Zach Bond coming up on the line of scrimmage. It was basically loading the line where if they were going to run those stretch zone, plays that have been working for Kyron Williams. Instead of getting those double teams going, it was going to be hat on a hat one on one,
Starting point is 00:23:39 and just hoping that one of your guys is going to be able to win. And you're going to prevent that crease from happening, which is kind of a callback to the whole back and forth from 2018. That's exactly what Fangio did to McVeigh back. Yeah, exactly back in 2018. That's the way when teams are getting the stretch run going, that's a tool that teams have been able to lean into is just basically loading up the line of scrimmage, preventing those double teams from really getting going at the point of attack.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Who is your daddy and what does he do? Yeah, I mean, he owned him. Yeah. So when you're able to stop the run that way, you got into the more predictable passing downs. That's when we saw the sacks happen. We saw the third down sack. We saw a book, I mean,
Starting point is 00:24:17 Kobe Dean's sack came on second down, sweats and sack came on first down. And so they were able to get after the quarterback as well on those pure dropbacks. From the Eagles passing game. Yep. Stand point, as we talked about, Jalen 15 of 22 for 179 yards and a touchdown,
Starting point is 00:24:32 quarterback rating of 108. AJ Brown goes for 109 and a touchdown. And then after Saquan, the next leading receiver was Dallas got her at 4 for 19 yards. And then John Dodson is the only other guy who caught a pass, one for four. What did you think of the passing plan? Yeah, it's going to be tough to answer until we see the film tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:24:50 But I mean, the thing is, is like Jalen Miss Goddard and that one play in the red zone. Now, that would have come back to the penalty anyway. So it's not like that would have gone. They would have counted. But I think when you look at it, They had some stuff dialed up and you could see that Jalen dropped back a number of times and wanted something down the field that wasn't there. And he was able to either scramble or throw away made some good decisions on some throwaways.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Yeah, it looks like he made some good decisions on some pressures where sometimes he can sort of get a little bit flustered in those situations, either take a bad sack or, you know, you drop the ball. Yeah. Tonight, a couple of a couple of ones where he was able to just throw the ball away and not have those negative plays. And to my knowledge, to my memory, I don't remember seeing any like free runners from a blitz standpoint where it's like, oh, man, like the protection scheme was bad there and they had it broke down and somebody came in clean. I don't remember seeing any clean rushes that way to Jalen Hertz. Now, the big thing from a pre-snap standpoint that will come into question, I'm sure, within the next 20, 30 minutes, whether it's with Nick or with Jalen or with both, will be that sequence at the end of the half. So at the end of the first half, when you had two quarterback runs in the final three plays, two of the final two, or the two final plays with Jalen Hertz.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Well, we'll get to that. Yeah. We'll get to that. But I think to me, that becomes a Jalen discussion. Do we have Nick, Tyler? I think Siriani's at the podium. We're going to get him on in just a second. And here what.
Starting point is 00:26:17 So you're getting called out in Discord for the BG. Yeah, I take that heat. That's totally on me. Yeah. I tweeted during the game. Was it BG's like in TPOA? Did you tweet or blue sky? Blue sky.
Starting point is 00:26:29 What do you call? I'm not tweeting anymore. I'm only retweeting. Oh, really? Yeah. No more tweets for me. Huh. Who needs it?
Starting point is 00:26:37 Yeah. I still love it. X is where it all goes down, though. Okay. We got Nick, you're pulling them up. Good. It's a really good defensive line. And a good defense.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Got a lot of respect for Chris Schuel. You lost them. There is. That had an opportunity to interview him for a job a couple of years. ago. Got so so much and worked with them, so a ton of respect for that. I've worked with Greg Williams, great coach before,
Starting point is 00:27:01 Giff Smith, all those guys. So I know they got good players and they got good, really good coaches. You know, Sequan's a special player, offensive line played special. It gets a very good, that's a good defensive line. It's a very good defensive line. And we came into this
Starting point is 00:27:17 game knowing that we had our hands full with them. So hats off to our players. And that's a good scheme. I think Chris did a good job of mixing things out, making it hard for us to know what to get a beat on things. And we were able to hit a couple home runs. Sequin has that ability to hit home runs. And so sometimes that's how it goes. You get some short gains, short gain, short game, boom, home run.
Starting point is 00:27:37 And Sequin's that type of player. And our offense line did a good job at the variations of the front today. At the point he came off the field, Limbing. Who's that? Sequin. At one point he came up. He said he was fine. But do you ever have concerns that there's a lot?
Starting point is 00:27:53 a point. You've got to slow it down a little bit with his numbers? You know, again, I've talked to you guys about this. You control things on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. This sport is like any other, this professional NFL is like, unlike any other professional sport. Like, we got to do whatever we got to do to win each and every game. That's always going to be that way. so if it takes Sequin carrying the ball a bunch of times and he's going to have to carry it a bunch of times.
Starting point is 00:28:27 And then you have to get a chance. We've gotten a chance the last couple weeks past month or so through November to get him out in the fourth quarter. So you try to handle things that way. We're always conscious of it. I think Sequin does a really good job of being able to take himself out at times and when he's feeling it. And that's why, you know, he runs so fast and so hard
Starting point is 00:28:48 and that I think he has a good feel for when he needs to come out, and he comes out. Kenny Gainwell has been going in. Kenny's done a really nice job. I got so much confidence in Kenny when he goes in. And so it's managed a little bit through that. Again, we'll make sure we're very careful with him Monday through Saturday, and we'll do whatever we need to do to win the games. You mentioned the home run runs.
Starting point is 00:29:12 The five longest runs that Belgrade coaching tenure are from Sagan. What does he do for those types of room? Yeah. you know, he, on the first play of the second half, he makes a cut that I didn't think anybody else could make. Like, he just stopped on a dime. We blocked it really well. Jordan Malata did an awesome job on the backside. Landon did an awesome job on the backside because we ran an outside zone, and we were able to cut the backside off.
Starting point is 00:29:38 And so, first and foremost, to get into the open field, it started up front. It started on the front side, then obviously what we did on the backside. And then he made this cut that, man, he put his left foot in the ground and went around the edge. And then he just hit the gas. And it looked like we, I couldn't tell, but it looked like we had some guys hustling downfield to get to get the blocks. But, man, when you have the type of quickness lateral movement that Saquan has with the ability to accelerate and the speed to finish and the power to break it through an arm. tackle. I mean, he's got everything you look for in the back. He's been, he's been
Starting point is 00:30:19 awesome, and he was awesome tonight. Coach Vigency, they went 0 for eight tonight and the number one past defense that you guys sport out there tonight. He's speaking to just being able to line up and shut down some of the more prolific offices, receivers and quarterbacks in the league. That's a really good offense. So much of respect for Coach McVeigh and how much
Starting point is 00:30:39 success he's had. And you always got to be prepared. I just, I can't tell you how much we watch him all the time in the offseason. What's he doing that's cutting edge? And it's always something that we that we pick up and we put on our, put it in our repertoire. So first and foremost, Sean does a great job with those guys. And then Matt Stafford is lights out, man. He's tough. He's accurate. He knows where to go with the football. And then the two receivers are
Starting point is 00:31:06 big-time players. And I've always thought Robinson was a really good player as well. And so, you know, got a lot of, got a lot of weapons over there. We were, and we had to be on it today. and I think it started with us up front, being able to get some pressure on the quarterback. That's always where it's going to start up front. You know, where everyone's going to look at today and see Sequin's 255 yards, but that offensive line is where it started, right? And it's the same thing on the defense. It starts on that defensive line.
Starting point is 00:31:34 And we got a good effort from everybody that it contributed. We were, you know, credit to Howie and his staff that we have good depth that we're able to rotate through and keep them fresh. you know, our D-line coaches, you know, Vick's doing a good job of calling the different games and different stunts that we're doing and blitzes. And then our D-line coaches, Jeremiah Washburn and Clint Hurd, you know, I've done a really nice job coaching these guys. But all the credit goes to those guys that are out there making plays
Starting point is 00:32:00 and you make it hard on the quarterback in the past game when you're able to generate the pressure that we got today. Yeah, I'll look at the tape. I thought he did a good job. It was efficient. made plays with his legs. He made plays with his, you know, with his arm. And so I just think, you know, took care of the football. And so I thought he was super efficient. You know, our run game was really cooking. But when we needed to pass it, he had some big time completions to AJ, particularly on third down, you know, big one at the end of the third quarter. Jalen is a winner. I can't stress that enough. I know I say that every time up here. But look how many games we've won in these past four years. We've won a, we've won a crap ton of games. You know, and
Starting point is 00:32:45 Jalen's touching the ball every single play on offense to help us do that. And so Jalen, I thought, you know, again, we'll watch the tape on the way home. We got a long flight to be able to watch the tape on the way home, but I thought super efficient, protected the football. We're still able to get explosive plays because he was pushing the ball down the field when he needed,
Starting point is 00:33:06 you know, and then when there was pressure. He's hard to get down when there's pressure. A couple of our quarterback sneaks went for one of them went for a big game. He just shows you how strong and physical he is. But can't say enough good things about how he's leading our team, how he's leading our offense. So, again, I won't give you a plus-minus okay yet,
Starting point is 00:33:26 but I think he probably played a plus, and I'll watch the tape, but I thought he did a lot of good things. A couple more things. They were looking there was a sequence where you declined a penalty, they went out on the field, and you accepted him to push it back. Is that what happened there? Yeah, we got them to third and 13 in that particular case. And then the end of the first half, that sequence of play calls.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Yeah, we didn't do a good enough job at the end of the first half, players, coaches, everybody. And so anytime it doesn't look the right way in those scenarios, that's going to be on me. I got to coach it better. I got to teach it better. So we just didn't execute that at the end of the half. And then the fourth, are you guys gone to jump off sentence? Were you going to run that or are you? They did a good job. Our guys did a good job.
Starting point is 00:34:14 We were able to use our cadence in those particular cases. I got a lot of faith in fourth and one. I think that's probably in those scenarios that defense has to respect that we can go for it in fourth and one. If you look back to our Miami game last year, we went forward on fourth and one in a four minute inside our 20. So I guess you can connect the dots there in that particular case. But, you know, I think that was a credit to Jalen and how. he's using his cadence there. I think that's something that we'll get credited for a
Starting point is 00:34:46 first down, but, you know, quarterback's got to be good with his cadence. Obviously, we were on a hard count. That's why they jumped, and then we'll see if we would have went for it. But, you know, Jalen did a good job with his voice and getting them to jump off sides in that particular case.
Starting point is 00:35:01 For you guys to win by three scores, the kind of performance of the night, what does that tell you about where you guys are already and head? Yeah, that everyone's going to be telling us how good. we are, everyone's going to be telling us, you know, this is, you're, you're one of the better teams. We don't listen to that.
Starting point is 00:35:21 All we got to do is put our heads down and work. Just like when people tell you you aren't good enough and you got to block it out and put your head down and work, it's the same situation here because I think what's going to happen, obviously, and this is what I told our team after is, you know, everyone's going to be calling you. The media is going to be telling you how good you are. The fans are going to be telling you how good you are. that all doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:35:46 All that matters is that we go back to work, get ready for a really good opponent. All that is is rat poison, which we'll say, all that is is rat poison. So please don't tell them how good they are. They played really good today. But we got a lot of work to do. We made some mistakes, you know, coaching mistakes,
Starting point is 00:36:06 playing mistakes that we got to correct. If we want to do things, you know, we're not into trying to do something, special and to do that it's going to take the work to end day up. All right. Go ahead. Go ahead. Hey, Coach, just Thursday Thanksgiving is coming up.
Starting point is 00:36:22 What are you most thankful for this year? Oh, man. Man, God has blessed me in so many ways. So, first of all, thankful for the Lord and everything that he's blessed me with. I got a beautiful family. I got beautiful kids, beautiful wife, great parents who've been there, you know, that are up still in Western New York right now, watching the game late at night. my brothers are the two guys I probably look up to the most in the world besides my dad.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Man, and so family, I appreciate you asking us. Family is the most important thing to me. Again, love my wife. She's awesome. She is a great coach's wife. And again, three awesome kids that, you know. A ton to be thankful for. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:37:09 I was, you know, Nick got to do the thing that he's been. been wanting to do his entire life tonight, which was successfully draw the defense off sides and then fourth down that that preceded the second 70 plus yard touchdown rims from Sequin Barkley. So I would have thought that'd be a little bit more of a pep in a step after finally getting that done. Talked about the end of half scenario and basically took, took blame. But what was interesting about it was the, everyone's got to be better there. Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:40 It's all falls on me. So let's explain what happened there. Yeah. The Eagles sort of. stumbled a little bit at the end of that drive. They're up 13.7, and they have a fourth and seven with seven seconds left and one time out, and they're at about like the 45-ish yard line.
Starting point is 00:37:59 They need seven or eight yards to get in field goal range. But if you run a play that's not a Hail Mary, you are risking turning the ball over on downs and giving the ball back to the Rams. It would make sense to just to run a Hail Mary. and how Mary, you're going to run seven seconds off, right? Otherwise, just punt a ball away. Yep, right?
Starting point is 00:38:23 Instead, they call time out. Jillen-Hertz goes out on the field, and they run a quarterback draw, and he gets tackled for a loss, and the Rams get the ball back, and then it ends up Josh Sweat gets the sack to end the half, but an incredibly bizarre process that made no sense. Well, that's the thing is it made no sense.
Starting point is 00:38:44 So there's no way. there's there's no way that coming out of a timeout that the coaches would have called that play so and we you know going back and watching the video it does look yeah jalen's making a call at the line scrimmage so jalen got a look and there was a quarterback draw one player two plays prior right and that was a little bit different because that was out of an empty look and it looks so yeah so that one you look at it like okay like i i think that one was forgivable this one that that's a tough one because of what you laid out that they made no sense to call that play in that situation Do you think that the, maybe not in the last play, because that's different, but maybe the ones before, is there a situation where defenses are maybe now baiting that call? Potentially, but I mean, look, hurts this, he's broken off some explosive runs out of these looks too.
Starting point is 00:39:34 So while you might invite it and like you might try and set a trap for him that way, I don't think that that was necessarily the case there. I think that was just a case of he called empty and one of their blocks, one of the blocks of the point of attack lost. and so he wasn't able to get an explosive on it. So it's possible that they were trying to bait them there, but I don't think so. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Jamie, we were a little bit worried at the start of this game as the Rams took the lead. And maybe the Nick haircut, you know, he decided to get a haircut after being 6 and 0 since the, you know, Travis Bickleshave before the Rams game. But, you know, they overcame it. Yeah, I mean, clearly a big wife guy.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Maybe Mrs. S said, Hey, Nick, we got a big holiday on Thursday, and you're looking a little scruffy, so we need a little cleanup. So maybe he did it for the family. Does a good job, Connor out there because he knows it's Thanksgiving week, but he's still going to spend time game planning. Couldn't throw a little Seekwon Barkley in there for the things you're thankful for? Well, you single out one guy, then... I think the team would get it. I mean, Lane Johnson's out here tweeting MVP.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Okay. Derek Henry is throwing flowers at Seekwan. Against Derek Henry next week. I believe Derek Henry tweeted Go Off Beast hashtag Sequin or something like that Brian Westbrook tweeted Running back Union all of a sudden
Starting point is 00:40:52 I'm a strong as union I mean Josh Jacobs had three touchdowns today And over 100 yards You know these guys that were deemed watched By the league are saying Putting them right on the table And saying how does it look now And I got to say I mean
Starting point is 00:41:03 The only person who I thought Maybe saw this type of season Coming from Seekwant Barkley Sitting to my left MVP You were all over it From the beginning, Vinny I'm happy for him
Starting point is 00:41:21 He's clearly very happy in Philadelphia So do you think that this means That like Daniel Jones could be Patrick Mahomes Like if this is the glow up that Seekwon had What could Daniel Jones be when he gets out of New York? Yeah Not quite that good enough Not my thing's at the extreme
Starting point is 00:41:38 I mean, maybe he's the next great safety in the league. I don't know. Yeah, there you go. Eagles could use another way. I think he said it where you were a good to. A contender. So potentially. He did, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Yeah. Was it Baltimore, Minnesota, where the teams bandied about? Yeah. Minnesota was one. That would be a good place. Minnesota would make sense. Sam Donald's things. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:04 And it's a nice short-term thing before they get two-year. Yeah, yeah. I was trying to find the updated MVP odds because, I mean, again, being another primetime game, I mean, this is back-to-back weeks on prime time. If he doesn't get into the finalist for MVP, the system is effing stupid. I would think that right now if they voted tomorrow, he would be second to Josh Allen. I think that's what I think he's more important than Josh Allen. It's a, it's, it's, it's.
Starting point is 00:42:37 He's having a clutch year. Yeah, it's been awesome. Nicknamed him to closer. Yeah. Give us those second half stats coming into this game. Oh, coming into the game. Yeah, second half stats were just unbelievable. Just got to get to my notes here.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Coming into the game, Sequin Barclan had like 100 plus rushing yards in a second. He had over 150 in the second half of this game. Coming into the game today for second half on the season, Sequin had 103 carries, which was second in the league. 738 rushing yards, which was first. and he was averaging 7.2 yards per carry in the second half. I would imagine those numbers all going. I would imagine so.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Tyler, are these from before the game or live? So right now, Tyler has this as Josh Allen, the leader at plus 135, Lamar Jackson second at plus 200, and then Sequin and Jared Gough together. Get the hell out of here with Jared Gough. Yeah, I mean, Jared Goss is that way. Get out of here. What are we doing?
Starting point is 00:43:33 That's trash. Yeah, I can't see. It's hard to. And Lamar's been human for three weeks. or just even not talk about anything else other than how good Sequin has been. Just unbelievable. I'm going to be replaying those runs in my head all week
Starting point is 00:43:48 and just smiling. I can't believe what we watch with this guy. And Sequin Barclan is so good, so impossibly good that he was even able to get the Eagles to run a successful running back screen in this game. Yeah. That's why I think that might be the most impressive thing he said all year. I'm going to try and make a point to remember tomorrow
Starting point is 00:44:08 to look that. up. I think that might have been the most successful or the lone successful running back screen they've run all year. Yeah. I couldn't think of another one during the... It was a big... It was a third downplay too. Yeah. I believe. Brandon wants to know if Sequin gets over 2,000 yards. Will Zach do a
Starting point is 00:44:23 show shirtless? No. I don't know what I would take it. Maybe not his choice. Yeah. Right. Like I said, all the Seekwan stats are going to be insane and next gen put something out. He was at his best in the second half, Seekwan Barkley rushing for both of his touchdowns generating 136 rushing yards over expectation.
Starting point is 00:44:43 So remember, over expectation has to do with the GPS tracking and, you know, how much yardage are you gaining over what would be expected of a typical running back on that, in that play in that situation. In the second half of games this year, Barclay has totaled 444 rushing yards over expectation just in the second half of games. That's more than any other player has recorded across all of their carries in the entire season. And so you talk about him as a closer.
Starting point is 00:45:09 He's the best closer in this town since Brad Litch. There you go. 48 for 48. It's pretty good. Let's run through the super chats before we pause for another break and then wait for Zach Berman. We have Alex who says, is Sequin a legit MVP candidate after this? Go Birds.
Starting point is 00:45:27 I think we agree. I think absolutely he deserves to be in the conversation. Jay Snagg says, Vinny, hit us with that Seekwan again, please. I want you to do it. What a gamer you are, Vinny. We're going to have to get you some hot tea and honey regimen going on. No, I didn't scream it no more.
Starting point is 00:45:50 I'll check back next week. If you're going to be rushing like that? Yeah, I was going to say, you can't help yourself. Help yourself. Yeah, we'll get you some lozenges, yeah, like honey, honey lemon water. You got the medicine. Shit, two hundred fifty-five-yard rushes.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Because you're probably screaming about Noah's games, too. Yeah, that too. Yeah, I think we got your Seekwon shirt coming in the mail, so hopefully any day now. I need that. Santayanga says Peckness, my great, Sequin, Adrian Peterson, Ledean, Tomlinson. Oh, man. That's tough. Are we talking Seguan just here?
Starting point is 00:46:32 Yeah, that's a thing. It's tough because if you're, I mean, you probably have to go peek, peak, peak, peak, because Yeah. We're going about this Sequin peak. You know what I think the nice comp for Sequin I've heard is? And I don't remember who I saw this from first. It's like the T.O. season. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Right. It's like, right? I like that. Right. Because it's like this guy came in with all this hype and he's still like way surpassing. Whatever the expectations were. I think with L.T. was he was just a, what do you have like 33 touchdowns that one year? Like he was a touchdown machine.
Starting point is 00:47:03 And was a nightmare in the past game. Yeah. I don't think you'd like all of our answers on that, all that peckmust migrate. Yeah, I don't know. That's a tough one. That's a tough one. Mike says, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:15 I hear you about Sequin, but what about those two plays at the end of the first half? I'm telling you, me. I mean, honestly, I will, that is what I will be thinking about from this game is what happened there. And I will try to follow up with Siriani about that again during tomorrow's press conference.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Vinnie says, Vinny, give us your best Brando and the Godfather, please. Because your voice. she's I'm not you're thinking you're thinking you could do
Starting point is 00:47:46 uh come to me my dad my daughter's my daughter's yeah uh says
Starting point is 00:47:53 McVey keeping the starters in down oh you already talked about yeah yeah we hit that one
Starting point is 00:47:57 past Pete thank you track 20 points Fanjo is his daddy I do and if you were with us on the
Starting point is 00:48:02 uh watch along I think I like Fran's idea that uh someone is going to take a
Starting point is 00:48:07 take a picture of Vick's but And then he's going to fax it to Sean McVeigh saying how you like me now. If it hasn't happened already. If it hasn't happened already.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Do you think Vic would sit down to pee ever? What do you think? I don't think Vic gets up to pee. He might just be at this stage. N says was this the best Siriani game of the year? That's an interesting question. By the way, this was by
Starting point is 00:48:35 by success rate and EPA per drive. This was the Eagles best. offensive game of the season even better than the Bengals game. Yeah, Dana is already tweeted. They said the Eagles offense posted 2.45 EPA per drive against the Rams. Ninth best offensive performance in the NFL this season. Well, game against the Bengals was 13th best. It's like a relatively, relatively middling past game in this game.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Without, yeah, without Devante Smith. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. And boy, to get away with, to not having Devante Smith, giving him a rest, and still come away with a win in this game ahead of next week's game against Baltimore with Baltimore getting one fewer day of rest.
Starting point is 00:49:16 That's big. Yeah. It's very big. There's field goal, punt, field goal, touchdown. Then you had the turnover on downs which got into the red zone. Then touchdown, touchdown, before you were salt in game away.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Yeah. Yeah, pretty good. So entering tonight's game, teams that have Lamar Jackson on deck, we're 71 and 39 straight up. So now 72. and 39 going into a Baltimore week. Kind of a strange phenomenon.
Starting point is 00:49:42 That's so weird. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. What do we got? I was giving you. Chris, the messenger. We appreciate that, Chris. All right, let's take a little break.
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Starting point is 00:53:02 Several times. And I love several times. And I loved. Even at the interview when they give, say, go ahead of a game ball. He was smiling. And I loved him and AJ doing the fresh prints. Yes. It was so good.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Vives are high. And by the way, speaking of L.A., the other thing we love from the watchalong, Howie Roseman, looking sharp tonight. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He had the custom's the dark on dark with the little pocket square. I thought that was the best I've ever seen Howie Lookie. He saved it for Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:53:37 West Coast, Howie. Yeah. It's fantastic. good job by Howie for a big Sunday night game. Well, you know, he knows he's got Sequan. He's peacock and he's feeling good. I mean, when you like review, yeah, obviously Derek Henry, but like there's no bigger move in the NFL than Seyquan Barclay right now.
Starting point is 00:53:58 I mean, you can make a case for Dylan McMahon. But aside from that, I do think I do think Seqwebler is a time. Yeah, how he's feeling good right now. Derek Henry there there as well. what did you guys think the refs tonight? A couple interesting calls there was AJ Brown touchdown
Starting point is 00:54:14 which they overturned There was two garbage bullshit calls in the end zone that gave the Rams you know I thought what he said I thought the second one The one on Isaiah Rogers
Starting point is 00:54:23 I could see that one Yeah Third and long It was a little tic-a-tech But he does I mean he grabs the jersey I mean Yeah but how the leg was
Starting point is 00:54:30 Grabbing on flag Yeah I mean I started on the opening drive too The slay one was that The fumble having to review The fumble How do you not And how do you not know that Siriana is going to review that?
Starting point is 00:54:41 Like somebody should have been staring at him. Now, it looked like Nick was yelling at his staff on the play, right? But it was after he threw the flag. He threw the flag, turned around and yelled. Yeah, I think, yeah, I think there was a communication thing. My guess is that, so when you have a play like that where you're hoping that you're going to be able to throw a challenge flag on, Nick, the coach on the sideline are waiting to hear from the booth. Hey, are you here?
Starting point is 00:55:04 Are you seeing replays up there on the broadcast? What are you seeing? should I throw the flag? Should I throw the flag? And if other coaches are also on the headsets talking and Nick can't hear the guys in the booth, my guess is he's probably ripping into the coaches to shut the hell up so that he can hear the guys
Starting point is 00:55:20 in the booth trying to communicate down. That's a guess. That's my guess. Now, that one also, like the refs, that ball was very clearly out. They should have seen that live. And then two should have been looking right at Nick for the flag. I did think the sleigh P.I.
Starting point is 00:55:33 And the set up the first Rams touchdown. That was a weak one. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Dallas Goddard just hung a fake drug test slip in Seaguan Barclay's locker when the media scrum was around him. That's good. That's a good bit.
Starting point is 00:55:47 He probably will get tested. Yeah, I mean, you test him for like alien DNA. Drugs, drugs aren't going to do it. Weird looking ref, I thought. Yeah. Vinny, what do you think the age cutoff is? for being like swole and jacked up. Is there an age?
Starting point is 00:56:10 Not this day in age. Too much fast food out of her. You know what I mean? Okay, yeah. It don't get old anyway, so. Did you guys ever see Ed Hockey on the field and be like, damn, look at those guns? You guys, no?
Starting point is 00:56:28 No. Unimpressed. All we talked about was Ed Hocule's guns. Yeah, that guy was, that guy was okay. All right. We'll hear from Zach Berman pretty soon. Let us know what you guys are thinking in the chat as we keep this bad boy going. I mean, I guess the big picture question is, I'll start with you, Jamie.
Starting point is 00:56:49 I mean, how good are you feeling about the Eagles' chances of getting the one seat? I feel on seven games in a row now. I went over the schedule, the remaining schedule. One game behind Detroit. With Rich on Wednesday, just to kind of see this exercise. I'll have to pull up my show notes, but Detroit does have a relatively easy. path to like you know like a five
Starting point is 00:57:10 and one six and one I forget what it was and it's at deniz actually pointed this out on the show on Friday this was a huge game for potential tiebreaker situations for the common opponent common opponent the Eagles needed this win so next week against Baltimore if you're going to lose a game yeah that would be the one to lose
Starting point is 00:57:26 or the Steelers you would rather lose an aFC game for for conference tiebreaker purposes but this one was one they needed to have I feel pretty good I mean I said there we're going to go one and one in these next two. This is the better one to get if you lose next week. I'd have to look at Detroit's schedule a little bit harder.
Starting point is 00:57:45 They're not slowing down either. No, they're very good. Yeah, they're very, very good. So, okay, I guess it feels like a collision course. Yeah, right now. When you look at the other teams, the NFC, you would say the Green Bay is the other team. That's kind of making noise outside.
Starting point is 00:58:00 The Eagles are plus 725. The next closest NFC team is plus 1,400, and that's Green Bay. So that's a that's a large difference. So I mean, odds makers, but 365 is telling you this is a two team NFC race. And they're right. As I was looking at numbers this week.
Starting point is 00:58:18 And you know, this is, it's a, it's a volume stat, right? It's not like next level metrics, but the Eagles right now, they're coming into the game, I should say,
Starting point is 00:58:26 they're coming into this week, number one in the league in rushing offense and number one in the team in the league in total defense. If that were to hold through the course of the season, they'd be the fourth team since 1990. to accomplish that feat, the other three teams that have done it
Starting point is 00:58:40 at least went to the championship game, conference championship game. So that would be the expectation for this team, obviously, with the way that they're playing, is that that's the level of team that you're looking at right now, is that they should be vying for an MC title.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Vinny, do you believe in momentum as a football player? Yes. Jalen Hertz just said he doesn't believe in it at the podium. I don't know how you can't. And there's a lot of ways you can't. I mean, do you get to put it in the work every day? like break it down for us Vinny
Starting point is 00:59:09 divas a player yeah well there's also I mean there's there's momentum in game there's momentum like but there is momentum in there's different ways to think about it but there is momentum and that's why does the up-and-coming game
Starting point is 00:59:25 it's going to be heavy yeah no I'm very curious to see how the defense the defense has answered every question so far Even in this game, after they start slow, they're able to come back and be so impressive. But now, like, the defense was super healthy all year long. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:46 They hadn't, they had lost one game from any starter all season long. That was when Slay missed a game. Now, and Slay left also. Huff is on IR. Slay has a concussion. Who knows if he'll be able to come back for the next game. And with no brain and Graham, all of a sudden, like the, the attrition on defense, this is going to really test them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:06 they're going to have to continue. They're going to need good snaps from Jalick's hunt. He's going to be counted on more in the rotation. And then they're going to have to get creative to try and replace BG's snaps in the aggregate with guys like Milton Williams. You know, if they're going to have to call up to Ron Jackson, you know, whatever that means. But, you know, that's where the Bryce off injury does come in because you would have liked to have, you know, Bryce Huff there. Because look, at the end of the day, like BG was playing really well, but he was playing, you know, in the teens, like snapwise on average week to week. He was playing more than that.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Wasn't it like 35? Even over the last like month? Yes. He had one game where he played like 30% of the snaps. He was mostly playing about 50% of the snaps. Yikes. Yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 01:00:47 that's last snaps. They're going to have to replace. Is there any chance they go? And let me preface it with anybody on the street right now was probably on the street for a reason. Yeah, like Yonik and Gokwe is available. I believe.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Somebody I saw on the chat said Frank Clark is available. Okay. Is there any, but is there any chance they go outside? And Yonik. I mean, Yonik was with the Ravens on their 53 this year. and they caught him and they don't have the so and again it tells you everything yeah it's desperate
Starting point is 01:01:12 to me to me I think it would be one of the young guys that they one of the young guys in the pipeline right now like it's Ron Jackson it's on the practice squad or jordan jackson to be fair also was it's not like he's been here a long i mean correct yeah he was here a long time yeah but it's not like they thought highly enough of him to to keep him in the building all year long right so then the other option would be guys that were here in the summer unless there's that you know and we had to i mean we did talk about it at the at the deadline like this was a place where they could potentially use some fortification yeah it's something that I'm sure though they've got a long flight home to talk through I'm sure that's something that the
Starting point is 01:01:46 howie and Vic and yeah Josh to rush the passer hmm he can get downhill you know he's got some speed yeah crazy things have happened yeah people are saying call Fletcher Cox J J.J. Watt and you talking about a dick's commercials and come on back yeah both things is the worst You guys, you're like, oh, my God. I love this commercial. This is so funny. JJ Watt is the hilarious man.
Starting point is 01:02:16 I mean, no one said that. It's great. It's a low bar for commercials. That's the point. You know, one defensive end who does wish that he was in Philadelphia. Micah couldn't help himself. Oh, what is he said? I don't even got to say it this week.
Starting point is 01:02:33 You all know WTF I'm talking about. There's a team in the NFL. East who let a generational talent walk for free. He's not wrong. Yep. Sequin just tweeted. How about them boys up front? Nice.
Starting point is 01:02:47 I was just about to say that. Yep. The O line played. Yeah, you know we should. You're absolutely right. We should talk about the O line. Mackaye Beckton getting some shine tonight. That's your boy.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Vinnie Curry. Called that. He's going to make some money. I'm unbelievable how many calls you've made, Vinnie. Is Mackay Beckton going to be here? Because he earned some money. Yeah. You know what?
Starting point is 01:03:07 That's a style university different. Do guys feel? Yes, I'm pretty sure he loves style. Like a loyalty to style where he would take maybe a little less on the upper party. He's even in the Matt Quinn Santa Astrovan music video. Oh. He's worked his way up into the really special. Do we make a pool bowl?
Starting point is 01:03:32 Fran would be in there. He's going to be in there. Yeah, he's going to be in the discussion. It's what I'm saying. Would that train behind you? Yeah. And the numbers from last week with Myelotta and Lane Johnson, I mean, and their performances, like, are we looking at another year where potentially there's three offensive linemen in Pro Bowl consideration? I think three plus.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Yeah. Jeez. I mean, does Jeff Stoutland get into the Hall of Fame? Do they make a position player? I like that. Is he the first, like, position coach? It's unbelievable. Wing of the in Canton?
Starting point is 01:04:04 He's the highest paid position coach in the NFL. for a reason. I'm putting them in the Eagles Hall of Fame. I mean, we're spoiled. It's unbelievable. Yeah. I mean, did you get a guy
Starting point is 01:04:13 like Mackay Beckett in and switch him? It's the best thing Chip ever did. Yeah. Bring Stout. Yeah. Well, and Lane Johnson. Although, that's more of a habit.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Stout. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, but Soutland's number one. That's true. A bunch of Lennon and Dickerson penalties in this game.
Starting point is 01:04:31 It was a little sloppy, yeah. Yeah, but I think, like, we've talked about on the watch along. Like, he hasn't been great. this year. So it's kind of part for the course in my opinion. I think he's been better the last few weeks. He started at the first like four or five games were rough for Landon. You know, contextually like obviously not as bad as other offensive line we see around the league.
Starting point is 01:04:52 But I think when you see Landon, I think that yeah, he's been up and down this year for sure. All right. Zach should be with us shortly according to Slack. Okay. Well, we look forward to that. A lot to get to Zach. Let's take our guesses on how many hours of sleep he got over the last two days. He said he was hoping for 14 total over two nights Friday and Saturday.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Between 10 and 14. Because he's red eyeing tonight, right? Right? He's red eyeing tonight. Yes. And we'll be on the show tomorrow. Well, he went to the Clippers game Friday nights. He said he was meeting some friends Saturday.
Starting point is 01:05:26 I'm going to say he did not hit his 14. No, I'm going to say 11. 11.5. Okay. 11 and a half my final answer. I'll go under too. Okay. Yeah, I'm going to say he got, I'm going to say he got 12 and a half.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Okay. Let us show in the chat. The truth goes to 13. The hotel sleep, though, and you don't have kids and you black it out and make it 50 degrees. He looks at his eye on kids. There's more time for me to work. That's insane. Zach.
Starting point is 01:05:53 The hotel sleep when you don't have kids and family around. It's like a great joy in life. Absolutely. Those pillows? Oh, Zach. No one. Here's another. Let's make our other.
Starting point is 01:06:04 let's make earlier Zach predictions how if I ask him what he thought the best part of the defensive performance was will he mention how early will he mention that they were 0 for eight on third down right away yeah first sentence yeah I think first sentence yeah I'm with you I'm with them on that because I saw him tweet about it earlier okay so I think it's fresh on the it'll be it'll be near the top okay all right according to slackies here Tyler will let us know shortly I hope he heard I hope he didn't know no he didn't know he didn't I don't I All right, Zach Berman, live from one second. We're just, we're fiddling with the mechanics.
Starting point is 01:06:39 We'll get him in just a second. Zach, we hope you're well. Hope you can hear us. But I hope you didn't hear the last part. And then also, by the way, for the real sickos who have been looking forward to seeing the Zach Berman generic hat, the black hat, his Instagram video from this weekend from Los Angeles, gives you a look at it.
Starting point is 01:07:04 very exciting stuff. I hope everybody was happy about that. Dear God, it's Jason Bourne. Okay. We're working on it. That's true. Drew 2400 says he might mention
Starting point is 01:07:19 BG first. Well, that's not that's, if I ask about the performance. Well, he might say it's really a shame that ends with BG's. Because we do have to ask him so well.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Yeah. Exactly. Talk to talk to BG. So we got to ask him about that start with. There's ZB predictions. Well, he can hear us now, I think. So it's not worth making more predictions.
Starting point is 01:07:45 I think he can hear us. Give it a little Zach. No one in the, yeah, no one in the, uh, Zach, yeah. No one thinks he hit it. No. Okay. No. Nothing.
Starting point is 01:08:13 We're working on it. It might be it's a sofi stadium issue. Oh, it's a tech ball stadium. It could be, could be his technology stabbing him in the back, the irony. I know that, but it's funnier if it's a so-fi stadium issue. Okay. Luke wants you to break into song while we wait.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Smash mouth. You got smash mouth in the bag? Yeah, the three of us went smash mouth for smash-mouth. The low point of the watch long, I would say. No doubt. Truly pathetic. Truly pathetic. Didn't one of those guys die?
Starting point is 01:08:57 what's that i think one of the smash mouth guys died oh wow yeah does zach have the hat with him at the stadium if it's a red eye could we could we get a little post game came came no like no chance yeah he's not wearing a hat to the game but it might just be there in the bag and zach says he can hear us moon river to get ahead of it while we wait for zach uh Bo will win Swooper this week Oh yeah Yeah
Starting point is 01:09:31 Bo Bo Bo Bo Bo Bo Bo Tyler he wants to know Should he log back off and log back in Would that help? The old reboot
Starting point is 01:09:42 Never hurts Go ahead So really quickly going through The big ones here I'm just going through Dana's's graphics Here we go Dana is tweeting a ton
Starting point is 01:09:59 during the game Just unbelievable content from Professor Dana Sellman. All right. So the Matthew Stafford scramble on the opening drive gets you a point. Matthew Stafford did crack 100 pass a race. He did. He did get that one. Jake Elliott did not miss a field goal and the Eagles score first in the game.
Starting point is 01:10:17 So you got three. Thank you. Sixers winning before the Eagles got Zach won. And then Eagles win by double digits got me one. So you won three to one to one. Yeah, a little alternate line. give out pregame plus 245 hit he says he logged back in
Starting point is 01:10:34 we're working on the people want to see we're trying to blow on the Nintendo cartridge how do you feel about the Ravens match up I feel pretty good about it honestly the Ravens have been human lately their defenses they're cash they're creating a lot of pressure that's the thing I was like looking at
Starting point is 01:10:55 looking at the numbers today yeah over the last couple months it's like they're giving up the most explosive plays I was going to say they're creating the most pressure okay they think we have our man Could be a big AJ Brown week upcoming. Zachary Bermanovsky. There he is. What a backdrop looking sharp.
Starting point is 01:11:14 What's up? Guys, great to see you. Great to see you. I've been eager to come here on the show. Talk to you guys. What a win. There's so much to talk about here. All right.
Starting point is 01:11:25 There is so much to talk about. Absolutely. We're going to talk about Sequin. We're going to talk about the defense. But let's start with your conversation with Brandon Graham, who obviously you have covered. for almost his entire career. Tell us about that conversation.
Starting point is 01:11:40 Yeah, I'm eager to hear tomorrow, as I listen to the show tomorrow, Vinny's perspective on this, because you walk in the locker and Brandon Graham is there. He's on his phone. He's talking to, I believe, family back home. And he stands up and he says, all right, I'm ready. And then he said, he said, I'm done. you know, I'm done for the year.
Starting point is 01:12:05 And he said he tore his triceps. He was, he said everyone back home was emotional. I asked him specifically, is this it for you? We're going to play next year. He says he's not there yet. He says he's kind of processing everything right now. He said that he, he's going to be with the team the rest of the way. He's still going to be, you know, a presence.
Starting point is 01:12:32 a leader. So that, that part's not changing. But he said if he goes out like this, he's at peace with it. Speaking to other guys in the locker room, it certainly sounds like
Starting point is 01:12:45 he'll be back. But Brandon even said he doesn't know what team's going to be next year. He doesn't know what next year looks like. He's, he's not there yet. He said his family back home was emotional. The kids were crying.
Starting point is 01:13:01 But he's, not he said he's not crying he's he he's been through this before um but he said he's done he you know his season's done and i'm not sure if you guys played nick seriani nick nick wouldn't say it you know i don't know what nick's waiting for it came straight from brandon graham's mouth and in the locker room you know hearing he's speaking to lane johnson about it and jordan davis about it and jane hurts about it sayquan barkley about it um you know sayquan said part of the reason he's accepted here is because of Brandon Grand.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Like, Brandon was the first one to welcome him. You know, Jalen had that conversation with him on the sideline. It was an extended conversation. And when that was happening, you knew something was up, right?
Starting point is 01:13:46 Because this is during the course of the game and Jalen and Brandon are having that conversation. I'll defer to Vinny, but Brandon seemed to know right away what it was and that this is the season for him. So I will have more, we're going to have two stores in all PHOI.com, one on Saquan Barclays performance, one on Brandon Graham injury. But yeah, Brandon, he, you know, he, he's always professional.
Starting point is 01:14:17 He was, he was standing by his locker, ready to share the news. He was, he was emotional, but not as emotional as he says those are back home. And he, he reinforced that he's going to be around the team. Yeah, I mean, I think the hope is that there's some poetry and the Eagles going to L.A., winning a game, and losing one of their most important players. Yeah, you know, I... And it's obviously it's such a shame because he was playing at,
Starting point is 01:14:50 he was playing at such an unbelievably high level. He was arguably one of the best players on the team this year. And that's what guys in the locker room were saying, same, like how big a part of the way they're playing he's been. And that's, that jumped out. And, you know, you talk about the symmetry of L.A. You lose this important player. I saw our colleague, Rich Hoffman, tweeted out the picture you put up,
Starting point is 01:15:16 Beau, from the Super Bowl, Jason Peters walking out with the Lombardi trophy, right? And, like, you can only imagine that being Brandon Graham, if the Eagles were to go that far. but Brandon made clear that he's going to be around. Sequin said, you'll still hear Brandon Graham talking trash to every opponent, you know, before, you know, during the game. But yeah, it was a surreal, it was a surreal scene. It's not something you typically see. Sometimes people wait for the MRI.
Starting point is 01:15:50 Sometimes players are still kind of processing it before they're ready to talk publicly. Brandon Graham hadn't even changed, right? I mean, when you guys see the video that goes up, he's, you know, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's not wearing a shirt. He hadn't showered yet. He was sitting by his locker on the phone telling people, you know, telling loved ones what was happening. And then he stood up and he was, he was ready to tell Eagles fans.
Starting point is 01:16:16 So that's, uh, it, it really hits you, you know, and players in there talking just about the icon, that he is in the franchise. So it was a, I don't want to say a damper, but it certainly made it bittersweet in that locker room for such a monumentous win otherwise. Yeah, Vin, I know that it's not how your career ended necessarily, but you have had season-ending injuries.
Starting point is 01:16:44 What is it like when you know that that has happened? How does that feel? It's a bummer. So much preparation goes into all season. and the commitment that you and your teammates make to each other, it's a bummer. Especially tonight the way he dominated the game. And to know that you have this like this lonely road of rehab ahead, right?
Starting point is 01:17:13 It's like, oh, that's tough. Okay, we pivot from that to Seguine, who you mentioned. And obviously, an insane performance over 300 yards, from Scrimmage, we are sort of running out of ways and superlatives to talk about the way that he has changed the face of this offense, the upside of this offense. What did you see and what did you hear in the locker room from what he did tonight? Yeah, so interesting anecdote here. Sequin saw on the scoreboard behind me here, if you can see, he saw at one point.
Starting point is 01:17:49 It looks like a fake background. It does look fake. Look at that thing. Look at that thing. So Sequin sees, Sequin sees on the scoreboard, 174 yards. Okay, that was the number. So 174 yards. And he's like, oh, no, I wish I didn't see that.
Starting point is 01:18:07 Because you think back to when he was miced up in the Giants game, and he didn't want, you know, he didn't want to just stay in for the record. Like, he wants these things that happen organically. He doesn't want to be forced. He didn't want to know what the number was. But then he saw that number. and he goes off on to on that huge on that huge run. And, you know, I'll get into the story.
Starting point is 01:18:32 So from, you know, Lane Johnson was really kind of taking inside the X's and O's about things they were doing in the first half to set up those home runs in the second half. You know, Nick Siriani talked about the cut that he made on that play, but really the offensive line, what the offensive line was doing, you know, spoke to Mackay Beckton. Mackay Beckton says, like, he's a fan out there, you know, that once he sees Seekon behind him, he's like, all right, my job's done. Now I can just enjoy this, and he sees Seekwon going for that run.
Starting point is 01:19:08 You know, Lane Johnson said that he's played with some great running backs or some great players before, but he doesn't know if he's ever seen a performance like that. and really Sequin, he's trying to kind of be humble, be consistent. He said his goal this year with all about being consistent. But even he, I think, is, is like aware just how, how special what's going on is. And so anecdotally, the thing that jumped out was the 178, oh, I'm sorry, the 174 that you saw on the scoreboard. also kind of a little funny story here or funny aside he was talked so he's talking in front of his locker and i'm standing to the right of him so i'm not face to face i'm i'm kind of to
Starting point is 01:19:59 a side and so i see the slip of paper on his locker and you know viny knows what that is the listeners might not know that that means you know that's the sign you're getting drug tested right um but i i i i couldn't read no no i i i just mean because players know what that slip is, right? Not anything about Vinny, right? But I didn't get to read the name on it because I was on the side. And so I asked him at the end, I was like, is any coincidence you're getting drug tested tonight? And he said, no, that's actually Dallas Goddard. Dallas was playing a joke on me that Goddard was getting drug testing, Goddard put that up behind Sequin. But like in the locker room, players were just in all of the way he played.
Starting point is 01:20:40 You know, I've heard AJ and Devonte call him Superman. And it just changes, it changes the offense. You know, Nick, Nick was talking about the home run runs that he had, like what was real special about the night. I think about this. The five longest runs of the Nick Siriani era are all from Sapewan Barclay this year. Wow. And, you know, Nick was saying that on that run at the start of the second half,
Starting point is 01:21:07 Sequin made a cut that like no one that size should ever be able to make, right? And he just, he says he has it all as a running back. So I think, I think you put it well that you're running out of things to say. You know, I spoke to Sequin on Friday. And I asked him about whether a running back should be in the MVP conversation, traditionally a quarterback award. And he said, he said, he's not ready to have, you know, he said, we'll have that conversation that had another time.
Starting point is 01:21:37 So I asked them today, like, are, you know, are we ready to have that conversation? The time is now. And he said, he said, like, he's not, he says it's an honor that he's being discussed like that. But if he wins MVP or offensive player of the year and doesn't win the Super Bowl, he wouldn't be happy.
Starting point is 01:21:54 He'd much rather win the Super Bowl and not win MVP and offensive player of the year. Now, it doesn't have to be either or, right? But certainly the Eagles at 9 and 2, Sequin Barclay's been their MVP this year. Yes, and in a game without Devante Smith for them to be able to have their best offensive performance of the season. Certainly thanks in large part to Saquan Barkley. Last thing on offense before we get to the defense, what did happen your understanding at the end of the first half?
Starting point is 01:22:22 I know it's maybe we're making too much out of something in a game that they won handily, but that was bizarre. Yeah, you know, and I had to leave Nick early to go to Sequin. Nick said that basically that's on all of us, the coaches and the players. like nobody did a good job there yeah i i found a mystifying um i actually said you know in real time i was sitting next to dsengaro from comcast sport or from mceton sports philly and ellie short parks from wip and i said after a j's touchdown i'm like i'm like i'm like nick needs to be aggressive with with his timeouts here right and so then when after that that second down sack i'm like why is you not calling the time out you know and there was 30
Starting point is 01:23:09 plus seconds that go off the clock there. And people were telling me maybe he doesn't want McVeigh to have time to think about a play. You know, I kind of think about that Rutgers game yesterday. I'm sure France saw it where you know, Shiano calls the time out
Starting point is 01:23:25 in Illinois actually sends her offense back on the field they scored touchdown. I don't put much stock in a day off in Los Angeles and you were watching a Rutgers football game. I was transcribing and I was watching all the college football games in the background. Yeah. It wasn't a day off. It was was a day without the Eagles playing,
Starting point is 01:23:41 but it wasn't a day off. It's on the clock. But, but. The clock in your head, Zach? Well, if I'm not working, someone else is, Jamie. Like, that's the reality of it. So, yeah, I mean, the inquirer is still publishing, NBC, you know, the athletics still publishing, you know,
Starting point is 01:23:59 so I got to make sure where are you working on that new book? Hey, if they keep this pace, you never know. But, uh, but no, uh, So anyways, I can't tell you what Nick was thinking in that situation. I don't think he handled it well. I also didn't like the second down run that Eagles had there. I don't know if that was jailing or if that was the play call. But still, they did not handle that well at all.
Starting point is 01:24:30 All right, Zach, defensively, what did you think was the most impressive part of this performance? Well, look, I cannot tell a lie here. I heard you guys talking before it came on. Right. But I need to say, the way they played on third downs, I think I, look, Professor Solomon and I are having two separate conversations here. I'm not disputing that first and second down aren't important.
Starting point is 01:24:56 What I'm saying is that third downs are inflection points in games. Or, you know, or they could be inflection points in games. When you look at like a win probability chart, when a team gives up possession, it could alter things. And third downs often lead to giving up possession. He has also said on defense, third down,
Starting point is 01:25:16 it is an okay way to measure it. It's on offense where we shouldn't overvalue it. Yeah, we can see that conversation. That aside. Yeah, that aside. Yeah, that aside. But the third down combines some other factors here, right? It combines the pass rush, which, you know,
Starting point is 01:25:33 Milton Williams, I thought, really stood out. And by the way, like the second day, story of Brandon Graham's injury is that Eagles are really undermanned on the edge. And they only have three guys now who are healthy. And one of them is a ton, right? So Milton Williams might see more time on the edge. Maybe Zach Bond sees more time on the edge. But I thought Milton Williams played a really good game. I thought, you know, obviously Brandon Graham was playing outstanding there. They were getting pressure. You know, Zach Bond made a, had a key pass break up. I, I thought Cooper the Gene was just really tight and his tackling was strong.
Starting point is 01:26:12 So third down, but then you look at how the third downs happened. Really, before Shapon had those two runs, when I'm mapping out, what I'm going to write, I was thinking this is all about Vic Fangio's defense. It's all about Vic Fangio's defense because I was talking to someone at halftime who really knows the Rams well. And that person was saying like, man, Vic's doing this again, McVeigh. you know, Vic was, I was really, I thought the defense was the story until Sequin set all kinds of records in the second half.
Starting point is 01:26:46 Yeah, I mean, we talked about that too, like the Vic ownership of McVeigh, that thing coming full circle is, that's a tough look for, for Shawnee Boy. I want to, I want to ask you about Jalick-Sunt, Vinny, because I know you guys have a bit of a relationship. What do you see from him? Because he's going to be, he's going to be called. He's very important now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:04 Listen, he's been coming along, he's been coming along, um, Coach Wash, Coach Washburn has got him and, you know, right where you want him. And that opportunity is knocking at his door. Yeah. For a player like him who is coming from a different level of competition as a rookie, what are the things that you think that he needs to tighten up that that Coach Wash is working with him on? Just to point of contact. Okay.
Starting point is 01:27:27 You know, and when he do get an opportunity, he flashes on the screen. He does. He moves like a really good player. Anytime they say. Man, we want to see him a little bit more, and that means you're flashing the screen. And that opportunity is getting a knock on his door, and he's going to answer it.
Starting point is 01:27:46 What else from the locker room, Zach? Yeah. In, you know, some, I'm thinking going person to person here. You know, Lane Johnson, his big point of emphasis was, like, yeah, they're good right now, but they were good last year, too.
Starting point is 01:28:05 And they can't let some of these habits come back, you know, they need He's, Lane's really being tough about like avoiding complacency, practicing well. But Lane did acknowledge the way they're running the ball,
Starting point is 01:28:20 the weather playing defense, like this is, this is, those are good ingredients late in the year. But Lane more than anyone. And this has been a consistent message from Lane during the past few weeks. And I've noticed this.
Starting point is 01:28:33 It's like not to get over, overwhelmed with the wind and to really focus on avoiding what happened last year. That's that's something that you heard over and over again. You know, Jalen Carr, you saw the way he was double team tonight, right? He chatting about that for a bit. Jalen hurts, he was talking about the game that AJ had, right? He was saying how the way Sakelon runs helps him on the back end a little bit more, right? he's maybe shoulder, I don't want to say
Starting point is 01:29:10 shultering less of the running load, but maybe doesn't need to carry them as much as he is. But he said that the time's going to come when they're going to need the passing game, they're going to need him. And that, you know, I do agree with J-Ewan there, is that there's going to be a time when the defense doesn't play like this and the Eagles are playing from behind and they don't control the game script
Starting point is 01:29:32 and they can't just hand the ball to Sequin and expect, you know, 70-yard runs, right? and then, yeah, you know, Sequin talking about the way he played. It was a very joyful locker room, I would say. I would hope so. Vinny's old teammate. Yeah, Vinny's old teammate. Alshan Jeffrey was there.
Starting point is 01:29:56 Yeah. John Dornbos was there. Alshan was wearing a 2000s that, like a custom 2017 Eagles jacket. And I saw him sitting there. with AJ in the back corner of the locker room at one point. Players were, yeah, yeah, players were having, players were having some good laughs in the locker room about a lot of different things.
Starting point is 01:30:23 So it was, there was a melancholy part of it about Brandon Graham, right? Like, you know, when I was talking to Brandon and other reports were talking to Brandon, some of the teammates were actually listening in, which you don't usually see. You know, usually guys are just kind of minding their own. own business, but some of the teammates were, we're listening in. So, uh, yeah, from a site, from a sights and sounds perspective, uh, I, I, I found that to be especially interesting. Um,
Starting point is 01:30:50 you know, I, I try to kind of keep some of the dialogue that players have, uh, like private, but sometimes when it's said loud enough, like, I think it's, it's, it's fair game. This is just the funny thing. Maybe it's a little shot at how much I, I'd like this stadium. But, uh, Lane Johnson said, like, you know, they spent all this money on the stadium. you know, they can't feel bigger locker rooms, right? Because, like, everyone was kind of crowded. Legit point. That was a sentiment that, yeah, that was a sentiment that a few other guys had, you know,
Starting point is 01:31:18 and when you're in LA, there's, there's more reporters. And so, Mackay Beckton's, like, trying to get around someone at one point and, like, the guy wasn't moving. And McCai's like, like, what's going on here? You know, the guy's happy. Yeah. So, yeah, that kind of stood out in the locker. as well.
Starting point is 01:31:39 The players were having a good time shouting, random players who are going to the podium. Like you heard, like, Rick Levito's going to the podium. You know, they kind of thought, I actually fell for that. At one point,
Starting point is 01:31:50 I was talking to, I was in on Jamon Carter. And then I hear someone scream, Siriani's going to the podium. And so I, like, dashing out. They got you.
Starting point is 01:31:58 And they're like, no. Yeah, they're like, no, they're like, no, they're messing. So, yeah, they got me. They got me.
Starting point is 01:32:04 I was on a mission to try to get Nick. And then I left Nick. to come get Sequin. So based on the kickoff show when you told us that John Doranbos was there and Deshawn Jackson was there for you, the pecking order goes Alshan Doran Dorembass Dishon. And Lushan was here too. He was sitting in Leroy's sweet. He was sitting anyways Lashaw McCoy, I believe Lashonkoy's father, Jeffrey Lorry,
Starting point is 01:32:32 Joey and Leroy, Bradley Cooper. We're all in that suite. Oh, nice. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So must be nice. But I'll say this.
Starting point is 01:32:44 I think Deshawn, I think Deshawn and LaShawn might be around the team a little bit more. I haven't seen Alshan in the flesh. And it's been a minute, right? Was he happy to see you? Yeah, he was chatting with Christina Lurie and then Dornbos, like, introduce himself. And Alshan's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know who you are.
Starting point is 01:33:08 And then Dom was like, he's good. He's good. So he came in. So I actually didn't catch up with Alshan. I wish I did because I was enjoyed speaking now, Sean. Zach, we do, I don't know if you heard this part on the show or not, but we do have some debate in the chat. Everybody has made their bets.
Starting point is 01:33:29 Last two nights, you know, they got the red eye coming up. Last two nights, how many hours of sleep did you, did you back? Yeah, I didn't know there was debate in the chat about it, but I did check my aura ring before I came here because you and I talked about on the show the other day. I got 13 hours and 21 minutes during the test. All right. Good for you.
Starting point is 01:33:49 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Almost 14. It would have been more, but my son, face-times me at was like 4 a.m. here on Saturday morning. and it took me a bit to get back to sleep. Wow.
Starting point is 01:34:09 But it was it was great talking to him. Zach, what do you set the hotel room temperature to? Good question. You're laughing because why do you have a weird answer to this? That's why he's laughing. Somewhere like, you know, between like, I know you. 68 and 70.
Starting point is 01:34:32 You don't want to say it's 69. Yeah, you're not getting me to say that on the, on the, on the air. But yeah. One below 70 is your ideal number? Yeah, like between 68 and 70, I would say. How well do I know this guy? Something above 68 below 70. Wow.
Starting point is 01:34:49 How many showers today for a night game? Three? Uh, two. Two. Pretty good. One, when I woke up, uh, took a walk, met someone for lunch. and then came back to get friends
Starting point is 01:35:05 up for the game. So too. All right, Zach. I know that you have a, you got a red eye to get to. You got to write.
Starting point is 01:35:11 Honestly, yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, I'm leaving for the airport at 11 o'clock here. So I'm happy to answer
Starting point is 01:35:17 any questions you guys have because I'm not going to get a lot of time to write. I'll do a stand-up hit that I put on Instagram and I'll start to do some transcribing, but most of the writing will come on the plane. So sorry for the person sitting in, in like, you know,
Starting point is 01:35:29 14B or, or whatever. The person's staying next to me, you're going to see my screen up with the whole red eye tonight. So sorry about that. No, that's all right. I'm sure they're watching. You know what?
Starting point is 01:35:41 Here's my last thing. How, I know that you have been to lots of Eagles road games where the Eagles fans took over. How did this compare? We've heard that there was an impressive showing from the Eagles fans. Yeah, it was an impressive showing for the Eagles fans. But if I'm being honest with you, look, it's a big stadium.
Starting point is 01:36:02 Okay? They're changing the field over the chargers right now, aren't they? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a big side. I don't want to drop my laptop. But so it kind of drowns things out. You could have, there's a path in which you could have rolled this into covering both games because you're covering the Eagles next opponent.
Starting point is 01:36:22 Honestly, I should have done that. That would have been good. Come to think of it, yeah, it could give me another day in L.A. Yeah. I'm surprised that didn't cross your mind. Yeah. No, that would have been nice at you.
Starting point is 01:36:35 But I want to get back to your show with you. We have one for your show this week, so thanks for me. That's okay. But I would say honestly, the one that takes the cake for me is always that Chargers game because that was a small stadium of 20,000 people that day in 2017. Did you remember that in 2017? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:53 Yeah. So, yeah, it was noticeable here. And I'll say everywhere, I went in Philly, oh, I'm sorry, in L.A. And I was in, you know, Manhattan Beach, Nelson Gundo, and Englewood, and Venice, and Santa Monica. Anywhere I, anywhere I went, there was. You were in all those places this weekend?
Starting point is 01:37:16 Yeah, I was in all those places this weekend. Yeah. Jeez. And the intimate, Tom. And you're watching Shiano? College football is in the background, yeah. Wow. yeah uh well because i i i would meet you know i met different people friend of the show tony ascenda
Starting point is 01:37:32 yeah we're going to talk about that on tomorrow show i want to get to the bottom of that okay okay um and then uh yeah i did go to i did go to the intuit dome on friday night that was an amazing experience uh i'm going to stay out of like uh any type of city of like city politics debate here from my pure basketball viewing perspective. We can use a place like that in Philly. That's like an awesome place to watch a game. Okay. Well, we can talk
Starting point is 01:38:07 about that tomorrow too. All right, Zach, we love you. Good luck. We look forward to reading everything on all p.chly.com. You look great. Almost as good as Howie tonight, but you look very sharp. Great background. Thank you for all your service. Vinnie. Have a happy
Starting point is 01:38:23 Thanksgiving. You too. Yeah, Jamie and Fran. I'll see you in the studio this week and bow for you tomorrow. Okay. Vini, I love you. Have a happy Thanksgiving. Thank you for everything you do for us.
Starting point is 01:38:38 But I'll see you tomorrow. That's good. All right. It's late. We're going to close this bad boy up. An impressive performance for the Eagles, 37 to 20. A memorable, unbelievable performance from Sequin Barclay, who tops 300 yards from scrimmage.
Starting point is 01:38:57 and unfortunately a very disappointing end of the season for Brandon Graham, one of the best players on the team this season, and certainly one of the most valued members of the locker room. So much to follow over the next week as the Eagles prepare for the Baltimore Ravens. We are back tomorrow at 2 o'clock, myself and Zach, who will be weary from the red eye, so that'll be good television, I'm sure. Thank you, Fran, thank you, Jamie, thank you, Vinny, thank you, Tyler, thank you Chris, thanks to all of you, sick of.
Starting point is 01:39:27 in the chat who watched us live we look forward to talking to you tomorrow that'll do it and as always we love you

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