PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - Surprise! Zack Baun re-signs with the Philadelphia Eagles as free agency looms

Episode Date: March 5, 2025

Our player acquisition period preview rolls along as Quacketology moves on to the free agents available on offense and the players likely to be traded or released over the coming months. But ... that discussion gets waylaid when the Eagles make big news during the show, re-signing Zack Baun to a three-year, $51 million deal.Join Zach Berman and Bo Wulf for all the action, with pop-up analysis from Fran Duffy. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

And welcome to the PHAY Eagles podcast on a beautiful, very windy Wednesday afternoon. Bo Wolf, Zach Berman here as quacketology rolls on. And Zach, a good reminder today of how quickly things move this period of the NFL season. I feel like since we talked this morning, like nine things have happened. Exactly. It's as if, like, I know the tampering period begins on Monday,

but they should just extend it from the day you get back from the combine to the day free agency opens because, even if you're not talking to the other teams, free agents, there's a lot of activity going on in the league today. All right, I'm going to give you five things that have happened so far today. You give me the quick rundown. I'll go one by one. You tell me what's the Eagles spin here.

The Eagles spin on it. Okay. Yeah, I like this game. Let's start in Seattle. Eagles releasing Tyler Lockett. Moving on from Tyler Lockett. Don't think there's an eagle spin on this, a long-time foe of the Eagles,

but not something that has a material effect on the team. Don't think the Eagles will be interested in him. Even though he's been released and won't count against the compic formula. Yeah, I don't see how that upgrades you from Johan Dotson. Okay. Same thing for Christian Kirk, who's getting released by the Jaguars. Christian Kirk, someone they had interest in when he was a free agent three years ago. But again, I think there's more of a chance of Christian Kirk returning to Arizona than there is coming to Philadelphia.

Okay, Joe Tooney, the Kansas City Chiefs, Joe Tunney, who got just steamrolled in the Super Bowl by that fierce Eagles pass rush. I believe somebody pointed out, the only thing. player who has lost twice to the Eagles. Yeah, Sunshed Jazz, I think said that. Very nice. And he's getting traded to the Chicago Bears

for a 2006 fourth round pick. First of all, what do you make of the move? But tell me first, I guess, second of all, what do you make of the move? First of all, any Eagles spin here. So the Eagle spin I have for you is actually a callback to a famous bow-wolf trade that really rankled your feathers.

Okay? So in the past two days, the Chicago Bears really sought to upgrade their offensive line. They acquired Jonah Jackson. in the trade, they acquired Joe Tunian trade. So you look at their roster and you say veteran Ryan Bates, someone who they traded for in the past,

or they gave money to, but is he going to be their backup swing guy now or is he someone that they, he had been rumored to potentially be a cap casualty when you can we bring him home? So Ryan Bates, a local guy who is, is that your least favorite trade? The Eagles have ever made?

Ryan Bates for Eli Harrow. I think it is there, I think it is the worst trade that that Howie Roseman has ever made. So he never had a chance to actually get a fair shot in Philly. They traded him during early in training camp. The reason it was such a bad trade is because they never, he was a player who was projected coming out as probably an interior offensive lineman. They stuck him at right tackle, never moved him anywhere else.

And they traded him for a guy who was here for a week. Yeah. So you talk about someone who can play multiple positions. If he gets cut, he doesn't count against the compic formula. Isn't, you know, we talked about giving competition to Tylerstein, but not like someone who would automatically slot in over Tylerstein and someone who if he's the backup can help you on multiple spots.

That might be Ryan Bates music. That's a good one. I like that. Yeah, I don't think that he would even be of the level where, like I think if they signed him, it would be an indication that Tylerstein is their starting right guard and he's their swing backup.

But he's someone who started before. Yeah, sure. So that's a good one. Yeah, I just thought that. I feel like there must be. I mean, listen, this, I could be making. way too much of this. Lord knows I've thought a lot about the Ryan Bates trade over the years.

Yes. But I feel like in order to get the sign off on that deal, there must have been something where like Stout just didn't love him. Well, it's certainly not the physical freak that some of the other, you know, like your lane, obviously no one's Lane Johnson, but Lane Johnson, Mackay Beckton, these guys are, you know, are tall, long. No, I think they might object to the characterization of calling them physical freaks,

but. I just mean in terms of Ryan Bates coming out he didn't have long arms Guy Beckton walks through the door everybody's pointing at him physical marvel

Is that better Physical Marvel Physical Marvel So that Yeah I would imagine Stalyn was Okay moving on then But

He does have some decent film And he's been This weird fascination of Ryan Poles Who tried twice to Who tried once to acquire him As a restricted for agent restricted for agent, got matched and traded for him thereafter, but the Bears...

They're both named Ryan and they have five letter last names at Nden S. I can't imagine that factored into the evaluation. It could have been an implicit bias. I'll defer to you on that one. What do you make of these moves the bears are making? Well, they clearly didn't like this offensive line class, right? In free agency.

The fact that they're addressing it via trade, look, you want to protect your second year quarterback. Caleb Williams is their franchise guy. He got sacked a lot last year. It makes sense for them to do this. They clearly looked at the market and said the trade options were superior. Jonah Jackson has a history with Ben Johnson. Joe Tuny is a long-time established pro-bowler in the league.

So you get it from that perspective. But this is a team that always they're always searching, it seems like, for offensive linemen. Yeah, it's almost, I would worry about that from the bear's perspective. but I feel like it might not age well, but they didn't give up much. But the chiefs. The chiefs are clearly, they're rebuilding that off of now. I shouldn't say rebuilding the offensive line. This isn't like when they lost to the bucks.

But, you know, they signed Creed Humphrey last year to a record-breaking deal. They franchise tag Trey Smith. Right. But they're, they're clearly going to look for two bookend tackles, I imagine. It sounds like Kingsley Sue Mathea is going to move inside the guard. That's the report today. They drafted him to play tackle. He's going to move the guard.

so I think they're going to try to address offensive tackle this off season. DK Metcalf requesting a trade or demanding a trade from the Seattle Seahawks. What do you make of that one? Was it a demand or a request? I know, I saw a request, I think. Okay, okay. Hey, depends how polite it is, right? Please trade me or I want to be traded.

Requests a trade. I think I ask for a trade. I say this lovingly. I think I'd be more of a request trade guy. You'd be more of a demand trade guy. I think I would walk into the office. It's like, could you please grant me a trade? And you'd say, trade me now.

I mean, only one of us is going to get results. Man, it's rain. Yeah, it's aggressive. Yes. So, look, D.K. Metcalf, I've always been a big D.K. Metcalf guy. And I don't, I do like Jackson Smith, Chikba, but I don't quite understand what Mike McDonald's been doing there in Seattle. I didn't like them firing Ryan Grub.

It sounds like they want to be more of a run-oriented offense, which I thought when they moved on from Pete Carroll, and they brought in McDonald, they brought in Grubb. McDonald was a forward-thinking guy. Exactly. And so you just look at the way they've kind of opted what they hired Kubiak. Is that right to be the offensive coordinator? They have two good running backs that they invested high picks in,

and Kenneth Walker and Zach Sharpernay. So, yeah, I mean, I'm curious to see where McHaff goes. I think he is a difference maker when he's healthy. It would help the Eagles if he went out of the conference. If Green Bay went after him, then that would make Green Bay, I think, a legitimate or a more legitimate contender. I think what they lack is that true number one receiver, and he could be a true number one receiver in Green Bay.

Yeah, I was going to say, is there a team in the NFC who you would be most upset as an Eagles fan to see him go to? Would it be Green Bay? Yeah, Green Bay would really be the team that would jump out to me because I think that's a roster. I know listeners thought I was pumping them up a little too much going into that game, but I think that's a roster that is pretty close, dealt with injuries this year. I think wide receivers the area where they can really upgrade. So in the NFC, I would say that I'm trying to, he's not going to be traded in the division.

There's no one in the South who I'm like, they're going to get them. You look at the north, the lions aren't going to a, to get them. The Vikings aren't, the bears aren't. So, yeah, I think the Packers, unless it's in the, look, before the Debo-Samuel trade, I would have said Washington. Right. But I don't think Washington's going to get Tebow and D.K. All right.

The last one, last piece of news that came in just before the show started that I think might, you could squint and say has the most impact on the Eagles. And that is the Max Crosby extension with the Las Vegas Raiders. he's getting the, he's setting the market for edge rushers over $95 million guaranteed essentially. He's going to be making over like $35 million a year. Why does that matter for the Eagles? Well, Miles Garrett. If Eagles acquire Miles Garrett, this deal will come in over Max Crosby.

So Max Crosby is the highest paid non-quarterback in the NFL right now. And he will be that until Miles Garrett signs his next deal. And that if you're hoping that the Eagles, acquire Miles Garrett, you better, I hope that, or I guess bank on the Eagles figuring out how they can get some more bank here because they can't sign everybody. They can be creative. There are things they can do structurally with contracts, but it is going to be a tall order to pay someone, you know, 35 million a year when you already have a lot of, you know,

is wild. Yes. It's better to be inside right now, right? I know, that's right. Yes. Okay. You're ready for quacketology? Yeah, I'm ready for quackatology.

How's my energy level today? I see in the chat they're talking about my level of tiredness. Am I? I think I'm okay today? Are you seen? Okay. I'm serious. You seem within your normal range of outcomes?

Sure. Sure. It's been a busy day, but I am. We'll try to loosen you up as the show goes on. I got some juice today. I'm good. I'm trying to be careful with my words. Okay.

Yes. How did your book event go last night? Appreciate to ask. It went great. Awesome audience at the Balconwood Library. I heard the biggest audience I've ever had for an event. It was a nice audience. I appreciated all the questions.

I made sure that I gave PHLY and Bo a lot of pop there. I should have mentioned Julia as well. I'm sorry. Yes. The outstanding production of our show. But no, it was an awesome event. and it's the I always

I love it I love going to these events getting chance to meet readers, viewers, listeners hearing their perspective on things so it was awesome I haven't asked you this before do you think I have groupies?

No I don't have groupies no groupies no not groupies no it's anyone who takes a minute to read to watch to listen and I appreciate. But I used to joke when I was on NBC Sports Philly, Comcast Sportsnet, because then there were people who would, you know,

who would watch that. That was on in bars a lot. And I used to say, and I say this respectfully, that the people who would come up to me were always, it was always middle-aged men. It was never like 25-year-old women. And when you are, at the time, I was like 26, 27, you know, you're hoping that that, you know, the target demo watching, you thought that was going to make an impact. It's not that I thought it was, it was, it was going to make an impact.

But like, you know, it was, it was always the 50-year-old man who was watching as opposed to the 25-year-old woman. Yeah, I think you have a type in terms of, in terms of ZB hangers on. Yeah, so I was, I used to make that joke. like how can we make inroads with the 25-year-old women, but not anymore. That's not my sentiment anymore. I would hope not. No. Although I'm okay with anyone watching the show.

25-year-old men, 25-year-old women. Yeah. 26-year-old women. However old, young, old watching the show, I appreciate it. All right. I think you handled that very deftly. Let's move on to quackatology, Sack. We've got two regions to go through in the first round today, and then we will work

our way through all of it on Thursday. We've got the free agent targets on offense, and then we've got the trade slash cut guys. And we already have two people on here. One of them who was signed today and one of them who retired today. So we'll throw in some replacements, which will be very fun. Yeah. A quick message to all the writers out there or all the media members out there. Not a good week to ban content because if you're expecting to write that story for the weekend today,

things are fast moving right now. Okay. Yeah. There you go. Let's start with the free agents on offense. And it begins with the player who I think most neatly follows the Mackay-Bectin pathway. If the Eagles are going to let Mackay-Bectin leave and try to replace him with an outside player this year in free agency. And that is Jedrick Wills.

Yes. The Browns former tackle who was drafted one pick ahead. of Mackay Becht in that year's draft and was benched this year. You know, he set out a game of his own volition because of an injury. The team didn't

think that he needed to sit that game out and so that led to him getting benched. He's going to be leaving. He is not quite as physically imposing. No. As Mackay Bechton is, but you would imagine that if he moved from tackle to guard, there would be a lot of upside there. He's going up against someone who is the complete opposite

kind of projection as a potential starting right guard for the Eagles. And that is Brandon Scherfe, the 33-year-old, former commander, former Jaguar, who would be a plug-and-play answer there, but is probably going to command some money and is 33 years old. Yeah. So with Jedrick Wills, a few things here that I that I would say. Number one, I remember doing a show with you back in 2020. Is that when he was drafted 2020? That's right. Or 2021 draft, 2020 draft. 2020 draft. And the NFL.com comp for him. Do you recall who it was? And the fact that I'm asking you would, uh, would mean this is relevant. Like in the NFL profile, the comp was, do you want me to tell you?

Sure. Jason Peters. I was going to say Jason Peters. What was the conversation that I was making fun of that? No, I just remember saying like Jason Peters. Yeah. That's pretty ambitious. It's extremely ambitious. But probably because he's, he's not the tallest guy, but came in, high pick, the same offensive line as Landon Dickerson at Alabama, played with Devante Smith at Alabama. That's right. And it is Jedrick-Will's. It is not Will-Jedric's. No, but it's not Jedrick-Willis. And I think one of the common misspellings is Willis.

People write Jeddrick Willis. Do people write that? Yes. Who writes that? If you Google Jedrick Willis in quotation marks, I imagine that comes up a lot. Because Willis is a more common last name than Willis. What you're talking about, Willis? Jedric Willis.

I imagine there's stuff that comes up with Jedrick Willis here. In any event, Jedrick Wills, yeah, this to me is the Mackay Beckton free agent. He is the player who has the draft pedigree, come to Jeff Stoughtlin University, rebuild your value. Now, maybe they're starting opportunities out there,

but very similar kind of profile to what you saw with Bechtin. And not a, he's not a guard, but I do remember he's someone who, was discussed as maybe being able to play tackle guard. Probably because of the height, right? He didn't come in as like a 6-7 guy. Yeah.

And actually he was listed at one point. It was like 6-4. I think he's 6-5. But... Depends on the day. Depends on the... I wish I had that problem. You probably do. 6-4 and 6-5? No. But just generally speaking, you never know. I know I'm not going to be 6-4 and 6-5

no matter of the day. Not with that attitude. Definitely not. Look, there's there's things you have to accept in life and I accept I will not be six four. Although, did you, not to get us off, off top of here,

the big, or I guess one of the big stories at the Combine last week was, was Joe and Milro, the hand size growing like, there were like a bunch of measurements that were way different

than the All-Star games. Yeah, the Senior Bowl and the Combine are, they're all over the play, you know, unless I don't know what's going on. But I want to figure out how, how,

like, how you can add this, this size. that's impressive. Sure. Yes. When it comes, how that was.

When it comes to Mackay Bechtin. Yes. And the Eagles planet Red Guard. You were, you know, you were at the Combine. You're having those,

you know, early morning crowded bar conversations. You're trying to listen to the whispers, you know, sneaking into people's hotel rooms

just to find out what's on their phone. Do you feel any differently about this now than you did pre-combine? How do you, how do you,

think the Eagles are going to approach things with Mackay Bechtin and filling in Red Guard? I'm going to answer that question and then I'm going to add something. So how do I feel? I still feel that unless Mackay Beckton takes a team friendly deal, the Eagles are going to turn this over to Tyler Steed with modest competition. Just because you're not going to be able to pick everyone, I expect them to pay Cam Jerkins. You're not going to have five starters making 10 plus million dollars. You're going to need to have one position on a rookie deal or a low deal. And I imagine right guard will be the spot that they'll do that. The thing I was going to add is you were on to something.

You were ahead of your time. You read all these like Combine Whisperer things and this is what people are saying late night at the bar. I would submit that the better stuff comes during the day at Starbucks or at the coffee shop. Certainly if you're looking for fights. At the coffee shop, then late night at the bars. I think there's more substantive conversation to be had. during the day, if you just sit there, as you did for eight hours at the coffee shop,

you see so many people come rolling through. Whereas I think the bar scene has become such, I don't want to say it's jump the shark, but. Yeah, it's very much just be there to be seen. Exactly. That's my point. So I would submit that if you really want to know where business happens at the combine, I think actually, you know, in terms of like the not the actual business happening,

but like the rumor dispensing or the that kind of thing. I would say the coffee shops or the hallways in the convention center more so than the bars late at night. I don't really think either of those things leads to too much substantive conversations. This is the conversation I was having with Fran yesterday that. I haven't watched that. I'm sorry. I got to watch it. I actually don't remember if it was on the show or not. But just in general, you know, I would rather, I would rather have a coffee. for 20 minutes with someone who I have a good relationship with

and do that six times over the course of the combine, then be at the bar every night. Like I just... 100%. Give me the quality of the conversation over the quantity and when it comes to that stuff. 100%. I do think there's the C&BC element of the bar.

Sure. Right? And there's a lot of playing defense too, which I admit I'm guilty of. It's like, well, if she or he is out, then do I have to be out too? Speaking of defense, how's basketball going? Man, I really let my team down this week.

I missed two months basically because of the Super Bowl, the combine, the playoffs, and was back this week. And I had more turnovers than a pancake shop, right? I was, it was a bad situation for me. I did not play well at all. I let my team down. Yeah, I was a liability on the court. So I was pretty frustrated about the way I played

and I apologize to my teammates if they're watching. Did you use that same line the other day? I did. More turnovers than a pancake shop? Yes. How many pancake shops do you see? You see many pancake shops. First off, IHOP is the International House of Pancakes.

Maybe you could have just said more turnovers than an IHop. No, there's a lot of pancake shops. Seriously, there's a lot of breakfast restaurants that are pancake shops. Who in the old? audience is a Penn State fan. Who in the audience is a is a Penn State fan? I'm curious. Because at Penn State, the pancake

shop is like a famous spot. Well, that's a real place. It's called the pancake shop. I believe so. A pancake house. Okay. Well, that's much different. Is it the shop a house? It's the same concept. Like, what is this? 1950?

Like. Pancake restaurant. Is that more sufficient? Is that more sufficient? Is that more sufficient? Bottom line, I did not play well at all. Take it to the pancake shop. Next week, yeah, next week is the playoffs.

It begins the playoffs. The season doesn't start to the playoffs. Well, yeah, fortunately everyone makes it. But we have, because of the seeds, we're facing, I just got the schedule. We're facing a tough team in the first round. But I'm excited to be back with the team. We have a good group of guys.

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My dad. Yes. Sheriff, you don't think that's. No, no, no. I don't think they're going with an oldie. All right. Next up, we have a matchup of the Moors. You ready?

Let's do it. Dan Moore, you and your... The Ledbury, very nice. Also, that. The Steelers left tackle who gave up the most sacks in the league last season and also gave up the most sacks in the league over the past two seasons combined. Yep.

Big fella. Big fella. Or Elijah Moore. Now, Elijah Moore is interesting. Yeah. I don't think the Eagles are likely to sign a qualifying free agent and a wide receiver. they're happy to move forward with Jahan Dotson as the number three, knowing they have this very narrow target share. However, the interesting thing about Elijah Moore, you talk about those touch

points. Yeah. AJ Brown loves the guy. Lows the guy. Elijah Moore moved in with him. He was there when Elijah Moore was drafted and he's he's crying. There's like there are videos of him, you know, just talking about how much Elijah Moore means to him, helped him through when he had suicidal thoughts. like one of his closest people in his life, you would imagine that he would go to bat for Elijah Moore to some degree. Now Elijah Moore has had the misfortune of playing with some of the worst quarterbacks in football

over the course of his four seasons. But his numbers are a little dire. His rookie season was his best season. The last three seasons, this year, 31st of 33 receivers who ran at least 500 routes in yards per route run a year before. 32nd of 36 the year before that with the Jets

if the threshold is 300 yards run it was 81st of 87 unproductive however you could sell yourself on like the Eagles have before in this offense maybe he could make a bit of a difference yeah and I'm going with with Elijah Moore here I don't think the Eagles are going to be players for wide receiver

I actually think Elijah Moore probably has more value then you know, then kind of the first four years might suggest, like I don't think he's going to be a bargaining guy. He is a guy I like. You know, he was traded for decent draft capital a few years ago. I look at this. If for some reason he's available with a Paris Campbell type contract,

then I can see the Eagles going after him as a Paris Campbell upgrade. And I say that because... Yeah, I think it'll cost more than that. That's what I'm thinking, yeah. But if for some reason he's lingering, if then he's, he's a player who you can use him in like a gadget role. He, like you said, has that background with AJ Brown, but I believe he's someone that Eagles liked coming out of Ole Miss as well,

from what I understand. So if the price is right, I think Elijah Moore more so than Dan Moore. But I also don't think, I think it wouldn't surprise me if they bring back the same receivers. You know, they drafted those two guys last year, those five. I think I would be surprised if they don't come out of the draft with a wide receiver. Interesting. Another one. However, yeah, I think it's unlikely that they, it's very unlikely that they sign a wide receiver,

especially one who would qualify for the compact formula as Elijah Moore presumably would. But in this matchup, there are so many tackle needy teams that as much as Dan Moore might profile as like a Mackay-Bectin type guard convert for the Eagles, there will be teams out there who I think are willing to give him starting tackle money and expectations. and so I would go with Elijah in this matchup. On quick topic of wide receivers, not to give oxygen to this, but the concept of our show is you hang out with us and we talk Eagles. And there's some whispers out of New England that the Patriots could be trying to get A.J. Brown. Are you of the opinion, there's no chance the Eagles are moving A.J. Brown.

Yeah, there's no chance that Eagles are moving A.J. Brown, right? Yeah. First off, even from like... Now, listen, everybody's got a price. True. But even from like a business perspective, Um, it doesn't make sense for the Eagles like the cap. I don't even understand where this would come. Like what? Just because Mike Reble likes the guy.

Yeah. And you can ask. And New England wants a wide receiver. Yeah. Um, it doesn't. Yeah. It befuddles me. I've always kind of looked at like the, you know, there's, uh, trying to keep, I, I, I have a lot of friends in the New England media.

Uh-oh. Like people who I like, who I like. and I don't say this in a bad way. But there was always this, there was like a 10-year period where like every player, the New York Knicks media was like, he's gonna come to New York,

you know, and I think it's like in New England, this guy might come to New England. Now, the one thing with AJ Brown, he did grow up a diehard Patriots fan. Right. But the Eagles, it's got, it's a variable thing. It's a little bit of oxygen, right?

Yeah. And there's this thought that AJ's unhappy. I don't think AJ's unhappy. I know the Eagles love AJ Brown love them. AJ Brown's not going anywhere, but I figure we should just bring it up on the show. Yeah, I mean, if it happens, we'll talk about it.

Yeah. And how about that? I mean, it's not going to happen. Of course it's not going to happen. What would it take? If people were talking about it on social media. Even aside from the, I don't even think they can trade him based on the way his contract structured.

Aside from that, what would it take for you return-wise to trade AJ Brown? Like three firsts. I don't know. I mean, two firsts. Something like that, right? Because you're not replacing AJ Brown. That's the problem. What pick to the Patriots have?

Four? Yeah, yeah. I mean, start there. Start there. Plus, yeah, they're not trading AJ Brown.

Yeah. Okay. Next up, we have a nice, thematic matchup of potential returnees to the Eagles. Okay?

Now, they're not going to sign an Elijah Moore type, probably, but could they bring Nelson Agelor back as low-end, you know,

Paris Campbell level depth for the wide receiver room? Or is it more likely that they finally write the wrong of releasing Rahim Mostert all those years ago. Rahim Mostert, who was released by the Dolphins and had his worst year in a while. Numbers really dropped off last year. He's in his 30s, but, you know, that's okay. I think more, I think Rahim Mosterts more likely here.

He's someone who, if the Eagles move on from Gainwell, you can kind of put him in a backfield with Barclay and Shipley. one thing to know Moster, a special teams player in San Francisco when Michael Clay was there. That's true. Michael Clay thinks very highly

of Raheem Moster and he has a lot of special teams value. That's true. I don't know that he still has special teams value but I think he's actually kind of like the right level

of guy you might bring in hoping that Will Shipley beats him out. Sure. So yeah, I'll go mustard here as well. Okay. You like mustard? On your hot dog?

Do I like mustard on my hot dog? Yes, I like mustard on my hot dog. You big mustard guy? How would you be? I mean, I'm my... Peck this migrate, like Dijon mustard, like, you know, straight yellow mustard and honey mustard. Oh, I am nesting honey.

I am pecking... You're always a sweet tooth. I am pecking. I am pecking Dijon. I'm a big Dijon mustard fan. I am definitely migrating yellow. Not a yellow mustard fan at all. Okay.

I mean, if you're at a ball game, that's all there is. I feel like that that is the... That is the use case. Yes. It is a ballgame hot dog. I'll take the yellow mustard. Aside from that, yeah, it's a little bit. Yeah, give me.

I like a good grainy. You like a grainy. You like a grainy. Like a grainy Poupon. Sure. Yeah. I like a grainy dejon mustard. More brown than, yeah.

Okay. A good brown grainy mustard. Okay. Because it's, but you've nested the honey. It's versatile. You're even better, even bigger on the honey. Yeah, because the honey, you can use the honey with the chicken.

Right. And so that's the thing is that you're typically not. using the Dijon with the chicken. Am I wrong there? So you have an entire group of food now. The honey mustard, you can use it. Fran gives the same answer in the chat. Yeah, you can go, you know, if I have salmon, honey mustard.

If I have chicken, honey mustard. You could go. You could go djean mustard for the salmon as well. I could, but I'm saying, but there's just more food groups that I feel like the honey applies to salad dressing honey. Honey mustard on salad? I don't like that. Those are disparate tastes to me.

But you can, is my point. you could do anything I mean honey mustard is a soda oil on a salad honey mustard is a salad dressing yeah I don't like it okay okay but I don't think

that's a far-fetched opinion I'm anti I'm anti honey mustard as a salad dressing and if you know what if that gets me canceled so be it when I was living in in Charlottesville I used to do homemade honey mustard

okay I used to have I mean that's all the story yeah I used to me I didn't have I had Dijon mustard and I had honey and so I would I would just make it instead of going in the store and buying

honey mustard myself. Okay. Yeah. It's really like you were churning butter back there. You were really working hard. It was good. Look, it was you're making the most of what you have. Okay. Yeah. Your hard scrabble roots. Last time I'm submitting personal information on this show. I don't think that's true.

If I have anything to do with it. You don't. I know that. Someone said to me, not this, someone said to me last week, they feel like every PHY Eagle show is a hostage video. And they say, and the person said, the person said, are you familiar, are you familiar with Stockholm syndrome? And I said yes. And they said, every time you compliment Bo, I feel like you are suffering from Stockholm syndrome. Wow, this person really doesn't like me. Exactly.

They don't like you. It's just they feel like I'm held captive on the show. All right. Next up a matchup of tight ends. Now, two different types of tight ends here. Mike Gisicki, who remains very productive as a receiver. Jersey Shore guy.

Okay. And when I was looking at all the free agent tight ends, all the tight ends across the league, as you might expect, no tight end in the league over the past two, three seasons is asked to block less. Yes. Then Mike Gisciki.

He's a big slot. He's a receiver. And, probably for the Eagles, maybe duplicative with Grand Calcuttaire unless they're moving on from Dallas Carter.

I don't think you're changing your planes in the way of your... Sure. You're changing your planes of Tidding in order to make room for my Kisiki. Or, your boy from your

Harry Roseman if I'm having to go. By the way, why I say by do way? By the way. I have been thinking about your headline on that story. If I were versus if I was?

If I were. And then I just, I cannot get out of my mind. If I were a rose man. All day long, I tradey, tradey, trade. No, I had to be very... Man, you enjoy your hair. We'll sing along here.

Yeah. I wanted to make sure I know you are a rosemann. I wanted to make sure I know you are a grammar. I don't say grammar snob. I think pedant is right. I don't think that snob is necessarily. really wrong. I was, I, I did three or four, just, just double checks to make sure if I were,

Howie Rose, if I was. That's a tough one. Yeah, because, uh, so that I was going back and forth and I'm like, I believe it's where. I'm going with where. And when you texted me, uh, on Monday morning, my fear was that I got the headline wrong. So when it was just about Aziz Aguilari Sacrate, I was like, oh, thank God. Yes. I got to work on those lyrics, I guess I need to. I don't even know the song you were referring to. You don't know that? No, what's that from? Fiddler on the roof.

Ah, I do know Sunrise, Sunset from Fiddler on the roof. Okay. In fourth grade, I had to sing that. Yeah. That's a classic one where I only know it really basically because of the Simpsons. Gotcha. Yeah.

I don't think I ever saw Fiddler on the roof. But I'm familiar with the concept of it. And I've seen The Simpsons. Yeah, I mean, a guy's fiddles and he's on the roof. What do you need to know? Yeah, anyways. Okay, and so in that piece, you wrote about Tommy Trembal. Yeah, Tommy Trembles is the guy I really like, and I spoke to someone.

Well, how high was he drafted? Third round. Yeah, okay. Third round. As long as he's on the first two rounds of the first two days of the draft. Yeah. Oh, we have news. We have news.

What's the news? Zach, this is it. Adam Schaefter. The Eagles are resigning all pro Zach Bond to a three-year, $51 million deal, including $34 million guaranteed. So 351 is 17 per year. That's a lot of cheddar. But as we expected,

their number one priority would be Zach Bonn. He is back with the Eagles. Did Shepter break it or not? I think he did. We were joking about this because all day long today, it seemed like the NFL network guys were just ahead of Shepter. Wow.

And what must he have been working on? This is what he was working on. Zach Bonn is back. Zach Bonn is back. the number? 3.51 with 34 million guaranteed. So that is structured. It sounds like basically a two-year deal worth 17 million per year, which is a little bit above.

And certainly what they would have been comfortable with, but I think that's right around what we thought was a fair spot. Yeah, I'm looking at, I had three for 48 with 30 guaranteed. So, and then I'm looking here. Yeah. So, wow. Okay. Good move for the Eagles.

This is the move that I This was the priority This this we had been talking about This was a priority We said coming back from the combine This was the week to do it They try to do it before the tampering period To find the number

Yeah Boom big big move here Fran I know you're watching Feel free to zoom in if you want Yes I think Obviously we have talked about this This was the thing That they were going to prioritize

For a lot of reasons And I think it certainly makes sense as much as we know that the Eagles have not traditionally paid for linebackers or prioritize them in the draft, as I have said, there is a, what? You called to this day? Okay. No, no, I think I was fun. You go ahead.

No, no, go on. I didn't mean to interrupt you. No, go ahead. I literally didn't say anything. Please, please. You pointed at the screen and smirked. Sorry, Bo. Go ahead.

Carry on. Carry on. I don't want to. Seriously, this is not the time. Go ahead. Give yourself the flowers. You predicted the day. That's not.

In the story? No, no. Please go on. Please. I don't. Tell me. Go ahead. I don't know.

Okay. Zach Bond. Yeah. So you're saying. What is the thing? Nothing. I'm sorry. Please continue.

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Hi, Fran. How are you? Nice to see you. Hi, guys. There's no guesswork here. Yeah. You know, part of the problem and part of the reason the Eagles have shied away from investing premium resources into linebacker in the past is that it's a difficult

position to project, whether that is from team to team in the NFL or from a player coming out of college. And there's no projection here. He played in this defense for this coordinator as a defensive player of the year caliber player. There's a reason he's back and there's a reason they extend him. I also think some of the like the Sequin stuff from yesterday, which we touched on, but maybe didn't get into a ton, just like, you know, all the stuff we saw on miced up about

you're the reason we're here. Like, you are the one who deserves credit. Yeah, that guy deserves the money. Zach Bond comes here is everything they could have possibly asked for and more. I think it's fair to prioritize bringing him back. Fran, what are your thoughts? Yeah, I mean, look, this was something that we all expected, right? Of all of the big name players, he was the one that we felt he had the best chance

of returning here to Philadelphia. I got to go back and I guess look at the flu world order rankings. But I feel like all of us felt pretty good that of Mackay Beckton and Milton Williams and Josh Swed and that entire group, that bond was going to be the one to return, especially with the Nacobie Dean injury. I think bringing him back makes a lot of sense. He's underneath that tier, that top tier of Roquant Smith, Fred Warner and Tremaine Edmonds from a money and APY standpoint, but above everybody else.

I think he's right above where Matt Milano got a couple of years ago from the Buffalo Bills. So I think the money makes sense. You're able to keep a good player in the scheme that we're clearly his best fit. It makes too much sense for the Eagles and they get some business done. Yeah, the big thing here, obviously the player, the scheme fit, like you said, you're looking at a two-year window here, which probably fits while Vic Fangio's here. You know that makes sense. Also, as we talked about, this is a spot that the Eagles don't have depth relative to other positions. If Milton Williams leaves, Eagles have detackles, assuming Milton Williams leaves, Eagles have edge rushers. Eagles don't have linebackers. If Zach Bonn were to leave, the Eagles would be absolutely crippled in the middle of their defense. And I also think the Eagles view him as a rare player, someone who has traits that are hard to find. And I think off the field too was a really strong fit behind the scenes. He wanted to be here.

I know that there's, you know, like Bo reference, there's going to be a lot made to the fact that the Eagles are signing a linebacker. And it is, I don't want to say, ironic, but for all the conversations we've had over the years about running back and linebacker, two consecutive days here, the Eagles. They signed the highest paid running back in the league, and they sign a linebacker, 17 million. And I think that shows you kind of the evolution of the organization's thinking in certain regards, but also how if you have a special player, you make a special exception. And I think Ferran hit it on the head.

I think the scheme part of this is really important. If Vic Fangio wasn't your de-coordinator, I don't know if you're as aggressive making this move. Now, friend, to that point, just can you speak to what was so special about Zach Bonn in the middle of this defense? And I think part of it is obviously his flexibility and the way that he allowed Fangio to change fronts. But I think sometimes that gets a little bit overstated and undersells just how good he was as a middle linebacker. Yeah, there's a couple different layers there, right? So, yeah, the flexibility is certainly big, but we're only talking about, you know, eight to 10 snaps a game where it's like, oh man, like, look at the way. that he stemmed down and played the line of scrimmage right before the snap, right?

Like, I agree with you that that was probably a little bit oversold. It's important, but that's not the main reason. I think when you look at obviously the command that he showed of the defense, especially after Nicopi Dean went down, you kind of needed that that solid force in the middle of the field there to be able to operate, not just the run game, but also in the past game. I mean, look, we all thought about what the value could be as a pass rusher. And, you know, he had a handful of pressures.

he had a couple sacks over the course of the season. I was more taken aback by what he did in coverage with what he did in terms of just passing off routes and communicating and pattern matching, just an outstanding job in the middle of the field. Think of this. I mean, it happened on the very first game going back to Brazil. You know, when you look at Zach Bond,

that diving interception in the middle field of Jordan Love, but it goes through all the way throughout the course of the season, the number of plays that he was able to make in coverage. And it wasn't always the huge diving interception. It might have just been, wow, it's third and five. and there's a shallow crossing route coming in front of it, but he passes that off to Nkobie and falls off on the dig route behind it, and he forces the quarterback to hold it and go elsewhere.

It's those kind of plays that kind of get hidden with Zach Bond, but he was able to make those plays time and time and time again. You know, I know Fred Warner, he did an interview. I'm trying to remember who it was with. It might have been with Ross Tucker during Super Bowl week. And, you know, Fred Warner, who's one of the best coverage linebacker in football, he was admiring Zach Bond's ability to play in reverse and said how impressive it was in his first year playing the position that he was able to pick

routes up in space in that way. And then also just the growth that he made in the run game. Now, was he, you know, was he Fred Warner, you know, in the box consistently week after week? No, but you go back to that Atlanta game early on in the season where he got cut to the ground, you know, five, six, seven times in that game. He got better. He got so much better at that being able to defeat blocks and play through traffic and finish as a tackler over the course of the season and I mean showed his value week after week in this scheme yeah um you're absolutely right and and i'm i'm glad you you mentioned fred warner when i spoke to zach bonn uh back this is probably october and i asked him how he prepared to play inside backer and he said he watched a lot of

fred warner and roquan smith those were the two guys he was watching over and over again um and he mentioned roquan especially because he had experience in fang jo's defense and he mentioned Fred Warner because of the skill set. And he thought there was comparisons. I don't know if it was body type or the way they played. But those were the two guys that he mentioned. And now he joins them here as one of the top four highest paid linebackers in the league. I kept thinking there was no way he was going to come in under Matt Milano.

So it was just whether it was going to be closer to Tremaine Edmonds, or closer to Matt Milano. And he comes in closer to Tremaine Edmonds here. And listen, you know, $17 million a year is a lot of money. But I think this is good business for both of them. I think this is a fair deal for both sides. It's only two years of guaranteed money, presumably, right? And at a position where guys do fall off quickly, he's going to be 28 next season, turns 29 in December.

I think you get two years of expecting him to be in his relative prime. I think that's totally fine. From Zach Bond's perspective, you know, he has been places where he wasn't used the right way. Yes, he's emerged as a star linebacker and probably would be willing to be. bet on himself somewhere else. But, you know, I talked to him on the locker room cleanup day, and he was very reflective of a couple of things. One, just like the quality of this defense.

And you could tell how much it meant to him. And of course it did. It was a couple of days after they won the Super Bowl. But like he was really bullish on the idea of, yeah, I was great this year in my first year playing for Vic Fanjo in this defense. Think of how much better I can be next year. And it was, it was, it was along the lines of asking him, like, do you allow yourself to kind of be like, man, what if I had been a linebacker earlier in my career? Like, you know, wouldn't I have been somewhere else, less in the stratosphere of players?

And he's like, no, because all of that stuff led me to be prepared as well as I am for this opportunity. And now I get to move forward as, okay, now I got this bank of reps. I think I can be even better moving forward. And so, you know, I don't know that he could be better than defensive player of the year caliber. There's probably some regression coming in terms of just the playmaking ability and that stuff. But I think it is, I think it's very good for the Eagles, especially with Vic Fangio running the defense, knowing how much he cares about that position to have this settled. And something that jumps out to me. Oh, I'm sorry.

I was going to say, like, I don't know what his other offers were, you know, in free agency last year. Zach, you might be able to shed light on that. But, you know, I got to think that he's also thinking it's almost like the Seekwan Barclay deal of. Like what if he had taken another offer to go somewhere else for, you know, similar money or slightly more, you know, maybe he thought he would have a clear path to playing time as an edge rusher, you know, this opportunity would have never happened. And now, obviously, life-changing a year later. Yeah.

And, you know, in addition to that, something that really jumped out to me. And I think we talked about this, you and me, Beau, is when the team gave the put out the behind-the-scenes footage talking on Super Bowl Eve, that Zach Bond was one of those guys. And I think that showed you the importance that Zach Bonn had to this team. He was a key locker room play. He was someone who was one of the guys on the team. And to Fran's point about last year, he was a player that the Eagles targeted day one of free agency. And, you know, Howie even said that they, I don't know if how he said this or not,

but something that I had heard was they kind of had to convince. like the agent that all right we're going to give him a chance to play edge rusher uh but it was it was the type of thing that um like we've talked about and vic fangio said vic fangio viewed him all along as an inside backer or from the time you saw the film the eagles thought he was kind of like the cheaper alternative to van ginkle uh and that was the plan for how to use bond initially until fangio brought him in i mean how about howie roseman continuing to get this stuff done during the show we're really impressed is that glitter bad you got to be a fan Is that good?

I see, you know, I'm saying because if it's after the show, you do a separate thing, you have a head, yeah, yeah, you have the emergency pot, you're kind of double dipping in terms of the views. Sure. Last year, you know, I think our Devante Parker show was like our highest rated show ever. Because people wanted you because they had heard tell of the story of this man being so upset and angry that they needed to see you just burying the poor guy. But no, I didn't mean to point to the screen earlier about. No, but tell it. Now, I want to give you your flowers here. Tell me, where did you predict this? On the show. Oh, you said it. Yeah, I said March 5th. I'm calling it. They're going to sign him on March 5th. I don't remember that. But good for you. That's great. I do. No. What's it? Isn't it Zach Gelves' birthday today? Matt Gelves' birthday? Sorry, Mark Gelves' birthday. Sorry, wrong gelb. Yeah, I think I said Matt Galves' birthday. That's right. That's right. It was the Gelb birthday thing. Yeah. I think I said that. And then I think you said 53 on 5th on 3-5 or something like that.

I don't remember that. In any event, you deserve credit. The reason I brought that up is the timeline that we had discussed, all of us had discussed, was the Eagles would go to the combine. They would find out the price of Zach Bond. Zach Bond, I said presumably his agents would get a sense of what the market is. And the Eagles would do everything they can to keep him off the market because what happens is the first day of free agency,

if a player signs somewhere else that another, let's say the Arizona, or let's say the New England Patriots or the Arizona Cardinals, I'm trying to think a team's flush with cash. Chicago, not the Bears, but pick your team. And they miss out on a player. Their plan B, if said their plan B was born,

then the contract becomes much higher and you're blown out of the water. What you want to do is you want to keep him off the market and find a number that works for both players. We spoke to Vinny about this. How do you know? And it has to come to the player saying, I'm willing to sign for this.

And if the Eagles hit that number, you don't let them hit the market. And that's what they did. And it makes sense for them to do that because as we talked about, like, Zach Bond was the domino for everything they were going to do over the next couple of weeks. Because if you don't sign Bonn and, you know, you find out that he thinks he can get $20 million a year somewhere, then first of all, he's going to be a potentially qualifying third round comp pick. So that allows you, if Milton Williams is going to do that to maybe sign someone who you wouldn't have willing to sign or maybe you then pivot to signing Milton Williams.

I think this tells us, tell me if you disagree and you as well, friend, like I think now Milton Williams and Josh Sweat are basically gone. Well, I do think they have room for one more notable contract because my guess is the bond contract will come in with a, you know, it's a three year deal. I imagine there will be three void years on there. So the year one cap number, my guess is going to be pretty low. But I don't think it's going to be, I mean, look, I, it's kind of the conceit of today's show.

I still think Miles Garrett's a possibility. But I don't think they're going to bring back Milton Williams. I don't think they're going to bring back Josh Swet. And for how we started this conversation, I think that they're okay turning those spots over to young guys unless there's a blue shirt that they have coming in. They simply don't have that young guy at linebacker. Yeah, I think this is where the patience that Holly Roseman called for last week.

I think that's where next week is when that patience comes to roost. Right. He came in. He mentioned unconventional. I mean, who would have thought a year and a half ago that Harry Roseman was going to break the bank? The highest paid running back contract in NFL history and then a top five linebacker contract in the NFL. So now you do that. You're going to free agency.

It's probably more guys leaving than coming in in terms of big names. And then we'll see how things play out in the draft. And if I can just say one thing, if there's an – I'm not going to name the name, but there's a media member who's watching this show right now. You owe me an old-fashioned at the owner's meetings because we had a little closest to the pin competition on the contract. Oh. And boom, I was, um, yeah, I was surprised by the sentiment

that they were going to be able to get them for like 12, 13, 14, 14 million. Yeah. And I don't say that against anyone. I just thought that with, I, I thought there was, and like, like, they're smart people at different websites who were giving that projection. I think there was too much weight placed on the fact that he only had one year production when the level production was so high and this is such a bad free agent class, relatively speaking, that I just thought, and the cap went up.

I thought there was no way he was going to get below $14 million. Yeah. Yeah. I think history proved you right. And you nailed the date. Very, very impressive. Fran, thank you so much for popping on. We appreciate it.

We will see you down the line. Back to the mock draft. I'll see you guys later. All right. Love you. And thank you for watching. Wow. Love you. Yeah, I love you too.

Okay. Okay. I say it every day. I know you say it to someone specifically. I thought it was just a general way to the audience. Well, that's your problem. You got to internalize that. Okay.

Thanks for watching on Fast. We will be continuing this show on all-PH-LI.com. I keep thinking back to the miced-up. What was my favorite mic'd-up clip? Yeah. was after the Cooper DeGine pick six, where Zach Bond comes over, it just like dumbfounded.

He's like, wait a second, you knew that I had the middle and that Slay had the outside. So you came off your guy and you did. And he's like, he's like, that's unbelievable.

It was like, you know, it's just his understanding of the defense. And this is to what he was talking about. Like, if it's already here, just think about how higher it can get with another year in the system

with the coach and with the players. You're absolutely right. All your points are, are correct. The one comment I'll have about the past two days is, because I agree that, you know, just imagine what could come next. But the flip side to that is they pay two guys now based off of like the highest possible in like the range of outcomes, like the best case scenario in both situations, which is, I don't want to say atypical of them, but like you're not you're rewarding them as opposed to like paying. I don't want to say you're not paying for future

value here, but you're paying for the player that they are right now. It's true. And I think, like, they did just win the Super Bowl. Exactly. They're allowed to do that, you know? And like everyone on your team is like that. Like everybody, everybody is in the chat is like so excited that Zach Bonn's coming back. He's such a fun player to watch.

You could say the same thing about Sequin. Like, uh, from a, uh, from a fan enjoyment standpoint, like you got to be, you got to be happy that that he came back. even if there is a, it is more likely than not that this contract will not look so good in two years. Yeah, well, because I was talking to someone behind the scenes about the concept of like sentimental value. You know, or like, you know, you had to be careful of being sentimental. And like the point was a lot of these cases, it's like good football decisions because if you win the Super Bowl, almost by definition, you're not going to have a bunch of players who are underperforming and then you win the Super Bowl, right?

So almost by definition, guys are all having these. career years. And so it's not that you're paying them because you've this attachment to them. It's because like that's the player they are in that moment. And also that's the player they are in this infrastructure. Yes, exactly. Right. And I think that's to the bond conversation, maybe even more than the Saquan conversation is like the known quantity, the known commodity of this, we know how good he can be and is in this, in this defense, in this organization with these players. Is it fair to say, and again, there's a lot that could happen. But like, if I told you last week that they're going to sign Zach Bonn, right, would you say, all right, that's a good, you know, like that their big moves can be signing Zach Bonn in and nothing else besides that.

And then they'll fill in the blanks beyond the draft. Would you say that? Moving on from James Bradbury. Yeah, but in terms of additions. But like, would you view that as like, yeah, that's okay. Like, you know, you know they're going to lose guys. You know, they have tough decisions. They're able to keep on.

They have seven draft picks. And then they can fill in the blanks around that. And I still think they can make moves. But if this was their big splash, is that acceptable for you for like a good offseason for the team? I think, I think you're right that patience is required. You would be expecting that there would be some other shoe to drop at some point. But I think you would, I think you're expecting one other thing. of like a mid-tier level.

But if you just think about the roster and you go around it position by position, like they're good a quarterback. That's a position where they can maybe even subtract, right? They're probably, they're all set at wide receiver. They're all set at running back. The offensive line, you know what? They're probably fine right now.

They need some depth, but yeah, yeah, like they could add, they should be adding a veteran who can play a couple of positions. That could just be Fred Johnson, but it doesn't need to be a splash. You know, it could just be Tyler Steen and let's see what happens in the draft. Eagles have made this official, by the way.

It could be on and tight end. They got to make a Dallas Goddard decision. We'll see if that happens in the next couple days. Defensive tackle, you know, it'd be nice for them to add somebody even if they lose Milton Williams, but they don't have to on the edge. They do need to add somebody at some point,

even beyond the draft, but, you know, be patient there. At linebacker, now you've got Zach Bond back. I think I'm curious to see if they're, it's going to be like bring back Warren Berks or just let Trotter have it until then Kobe Dean comes back, see what the draft happens there. But Corner,

they're fine. They need to have probably one more guy and then it's safety. They're fine. So yeah, like it's, there are no glaring holes. And it's to the point of Howie Roseman's,

um, emphasis on letting the young guys play. Like they have guys in the pipeline. Exactly. Yeah. This is not a concept. Like this to me is not, they're just running it back.

This, this to me is paying value for. an outstanding, like a defensive player of the year candidate. One of the five players in the league, it was a defensive player of the year candidate. You're getting him for his age 28 and 29 seasons. I know it's a three year deal.

I'm assuming it's a two year structure. I'm on board with this signing. If we did a grading to move, I'm on board with the signing. And so to close the parentheses on this entire conversation, how this started, Tommy Trembler Mike Kisicki.

Tommy Tremble for sure. Tommy Tremble moves on in quacketology to the second round defeating Mike Giscic. Let's check out the Super Chats. Claude DeBose Hey, says, Need to hear you guys roast those Patriots bozos and their idiotic A.J. Brown nonsense. I think Zach already did that.

That did come in earlier than that. Polar Jam says it's called the Waffle Shop. Ah, that's correct. Nonetheless, they're good pancakes there. PE, so it's an old-fashioned type deal. Another super chat says, Breaking Eagles are re-signing all pro Zach Bond to a three-year $51 million contract, including $34 million guaranteed at signing and an additional $1.5 million in incentives and escalators.

Is that from Schaefter? Oh, you think the super chat, you mean? Yes. It might be. Yeah. He's letting us know because we're on the show. I appreciate that. I can't text people out.

Yeah. How much do you think an escalator costs? All right. I see what you did there. I have, I, I, I, I, I, where is Zach Bond going to put that escalator? I have no idea how much an escalator costs. Sean Wolford.

Eagles re-signed, extended the two guys I anticipate to take over as captains with Slay and B.GGon. That's an interesting, interesting framing. So if it's Sequin, you have a lot of offensive captains, right? Yeah, but Sequin's going to be a captain. Stacquon's going to be a captain. Yeah, I thought it was going to be Nacobo. But Nicopi's come back from the injury, so I can see it being born. Yeah, out of sight out of mind, sort of when they're electing them.

Just give it back to Devonte. Yeah, I feel really bad for Devante about the whole captain thing. Exactly. Can we just add one more? Yeah. It's a real tough draw for him. Okay. I imagine we should save the rest for the rest of Quacketology for tomorrow, but, you know,

maybe we're going to get a Dallas Godter trade during the show tomorrow. We might. I mean, this is the nature of this week. This is why these are such great shows. Yeah. Yeah. But you're worried. You wanted this to happen right after the show.

I kind of did. Yeah, I thought... No, I think the live reaction is what it's all about. It's just the stats. You get a separate headline for it. We can write another headline. Okay. It's just my view on it.

That's all. We should actually, frankly, let's just talk it out. We should make a separate Vod of just the live reaction. Like, you know, immediate reaction, Eagle Signs, Sack, Bonn. How about post... We can cut out... Post-adbridge. Put out, cut out the awkwardness?

No. I would go, I would go, you, we get just the initial reaction and then there's a break to when Fran comes on and we'll sort of clip it all together. How many times have I been in the middle of something? And you've broken out in song or you've made some crazy joke. And so all I did was point to the screen and your response was to be silent and say, and just like halt the show. Well, you halted the show. I've been in the middle of a point And you've broken out in song

Yeah, but you point you, It was like you were specifically trying to get me What is more distracting? Breaking out in song While someone's speaking or pointing at the screen I mean definitely the latter Because No way!

Yes, because you can just talk through me singing You are directly trying to get me To stop what I'm talking about And address something else. No, I am acknowledging the person who's right, I'm not even pointing to you there. It's someone pointed at the screen. I'm saying,

I acknowledge you. It's like Dean Smith saying thank the pastor. I am thanking the pastor. Okay? You point that out. I see it because, you know, this is a classic. Every time we have one of these arguments,

you completely change exactly what happened. Bo, I did not interrupt you. You're like, oh, this was not a, this was a. I don't know the difference between what you just did. But I can't tell you how many times I've, I've been in the middle of trying to make a cogent point, and you have said, I just need to ask you, is it Fred Warner or Warner, Fred? Or, yeah, or like, it's Fred Warner. Or something you've brought up.

I mean, how many cogent points that you really ever made? How many cogent points that I ever made? Okay. So my point being, I didn't interrupt you. I just pointed to the screen, acknowledged what the person said on the screen, and I was going to bring it up after. the break because this is the thing. We have so many people watching, thankfully, and there's so many comments that if I did not acknowledge that, it would have just gotten lost in the shuffle, and so I wanted to return back to it.

See, this is the classic thing where you always come back and ascribe some kind of intention, which was not there in the first place. Bo, once again, that is, you, you are not the arbiter of my action here, right? I was, so in any event. Yeah, what an exciting show. Fantastic. Congratulations to the Eagles fans. Congratulations to Zach Bonn.

What a story. What, yeah. Think about a year ago. Yeah, good for him. He had a newborn this year as well. So, yeah, good for Zach Bonn. Got those bald eagle shirts. Got those bald eagle shirts.

Yep. Yep. Yeah, what do you think is next here? So I think a Dallas Goddard resolution is next. Okay. I think this is the week where... Are you leaning one way or another? So I think this is the week where they take care of team business, right?

I think this is the week where it's like every roster decision that they had, they're going to do it before free agency. And so in Dallas Goddard's case, if I had to lean one way, my guess, I just, I haven't been able to get a read on it. What I've, what I kind of have the sense is, and this isn't a, this isn't like a stretch to say, he's not going to be back on the current contract. It's either a new deal or it's either a new deal or a trade. Okay, I don't think they cut him.

I think they could trade him or I think they give him a deal similar to like the Darius Slay deal a few years ago where you guarantee two years and the overall money comes down. but he gets two years guaranteed. Do you think it could be a, you mentioned the Slay deal that came on the heels of letting him search for a new deal himself before coming back to the Eagles? Do you think it could be one of those situations?

Good question. My guess is that's probably been happening behind the scenes. Okay. Gage your value elsewhere. Exactly. Yeah, not publicly, but privately behind the scenes doing that. Because then you can talk trade terms with those. Exactly.

That makes sense. Exactly. That's, that's. You're right on the fence. Yeah, I wish I had a strong view here. If I had to lean one way, I guess I'm leaning toward Goddard not being back. And the reason I'm saying that is because I think Goddard is a good player who would get paid on the open market. I was listening to our friend Shield Capadia, who actually, I don't want to put words in Shield's mouth,

but he kind of disagreed on what like, you know, a third. 30 year old, what they would be able to get for him or I guess what Goddard could get. To me, Goddard would. As trade return? No, I think contract. I think contract, like that he wouldn't get more than he's making now, maybe. I think he could. I think Goddard is.

I just think that the cap spiked again and the phraging class is so bad. Exactly. And if you want a tight end, I know it's a good draft class, but, I mean, tight ends are hard to kind of bank on in the draft. I think Goddard would have a market. off season. There's probably a school of thought that like look what he did when AJ wasn't in there. Look what he did when Jay and what I'm sorry when DeVante wasn't in there. The best game of his career came against the Saints, right? When they were down AJ and Devante gets hurt and he had that.

That was important play of his, of his career, of course. Down the less sideline. But I don't want to like predict that because I can definitely, I know the Eagles are fond of Dallas Cotter. I can see a resolution like a two-year deal. you know, it's structured a three-year deal but two years guaranteed brings them for the next two years so we'll see

but I do think this is the week where the Eagles take care of family business what a bummer I mean we get Zach Bond news but that means we don't get to talk about Elijah Mitchell against Giovante Williams can you imagine

that's called a tease that's going to get people to come back Elijah Mitchell and Javante Williams bless him more this maybe. That's what it's all about. Zach Bond. Back with the Eagles. Harvey Roseman, bringing them back.

I liked a new bond, which I saw in the and the chat. That was good. Was there another super chat that came in after the, after we already did them? Oh, no. Okay. Oh. A bunch of pores. Don't say that. Don't say that. Nobody's paying. Come on.

How do you feel about the every time you tweet an article, Zach? Uh, you put an article, there's, there's like, always one person is like so angry that it's behind the paywall. Look, I get it that there's a sentiment out there. I was part of newspapers when the content was been given away for free. There's places now that give that are more advertising driven. I mean, the guy says shove it up your head.

But I would say that this is like the analogy that a lot of people use with, you know, with paywalls is that you don't go into a coffee shop and say, just give me the coffee, right? Like the product. No, you go into the coffee shop and say, oh, you're charging for this and then you try to shove it up there. A. So we believe we have a premium product. We certainly between, you know, Bo Wolf and Kyle Neuback and Derek Bodner and Charlie O'Connor, we have less Bowen contributing for us. Jim Salisbury, uncontributing for us.

We believe we have premium writers. And so it's a product that, I should mention Fran Duffy, who's like the biggest draw. been stewing over the last eight seconds. So, yeah, it's a great product. And so that, that would be my argument, is that we are advertising. We are driven by advertising on our show. That is why you don't have to pay to watch our show. But we are not driven by advertising on the website.

That is subscription-based. Khalis says he's going to reverse his mortgage so he can afford a super chat for tomorrow show. We appreciate that. I would not recommend reversing your mortgage right now. I don't know when you got your rate, but I would not, I would, I would, I would, I would just wait a bit before you, before you. How long? Your mortgage. I don't want to get into that, but I don't think right now is a good time to reverse the mortgage.

And a good point from CDP. By the way, yes, become a diehard. Yes. You know, don't be a hanger on. Support Zach. He needs it. good point from CDP that it would be a little bit

of an odd decision to pay all the money to extend Sequin Barclay and then take away the real reason for him being good in the running game and let's tell us got her go yeah yeah is that the day's who was putting that out there oh Michael finally somebody flush

thanks for all you guys do thank you Michael and then Claire as well says I love Julia Fran Bo and ZB we love you too Claire All right. That'll do it for this episode of the P.H.O.I. Eagles podcast. Zach, Bonn is back. Bonn.

I'm trying to go backstreet's back. Is there? Bon. You're the one who breaks out in song. He's back. All right. Oh, real time with Prince Blue. I sold Blasma for the super chat.

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