PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - The NFL Draft is here! Who do the Eagles select with the 32nd pick?
Episode Date: April 24, 2025The 2025 NFL Draft is officially here! The Philadelphia Eagles will have the 32nd pick in tonight's Draft. Will Howie Roseman, Nick Sirianni and Jeffrey Lurie decide to stay put at 32, or could they m...ake a move up in the Draft. Quinyon Mitchell and Cooper DeJean made immediate impacts for the Eagles as the team's first two picks in last year's Draft. The Eagles have selected Jalen Hurts, Jalen Carter, DeVonta Smith, Nolan Smith, Landon Dickerson and Cam Jurgens in the first two rounds in the Draft in the last five years. What doe they have in store tonight? Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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and happy NFL draft day to all out there.
No, we are not Bo Wolf and Zach Berman.
Although we want to be.
I strive to be every day.
We are not.
I am Jamie Lynch.
He's Bob Cooney.
This is the afternoon edition of the draft day coverage here at P HLY.
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Happy draft day, Bob.
Happy draft day to you, Jim.
I love the NFL job.
I missed waking up every day and not hearing you give another mock draft.
Yeah, it's like my full season of,
of college football degeneracy and gambling kind of culminates with this.
It's all your degeneracy kind of coming into.
I have a lot of like Tuesday night,
Maction and Friday night,
late night West Coast games and Saturday slates where I'm either spending money I won
or chasing money I lost and all of it compiles.
Now it all comes together.
And I get to enjoy NFL draft day.
Don't draft him.
He cost me a hundred bucks one afternoon.
I used to joke on the radio that every war room in the NFL needs one
degenerate college gambler in it because they can be like, no, so-and-so cost me in the fourth quarter
late with the game on the line. He couldn't come up with the catch. That guy stinks. And then they
could discard all that information and do the right thing. Yeah. But yes, it is a fun day here at
PHLY. So we're doing the show at 2 o'clock. Then at 8 o'clock tonight and live for all of the action
this weekend are going to be our all-city NFL draft expert and analyst friend Duffy.
teamed up with Bowulf and Zach Berman.
Zach Berman was breaking the news last year.
So if you want to, you know, probably get the news first.
Tune in tonight, 8 o'clock.
The guys do a tremendous job.
I watched all weekend last year.
It was better than the national stuff.
So big night ahead for everybody.
That's why we're here to give them a little reprieve before the big evening.
Yep.
They're studying.
They're making last minute phone calls, seeing what's going on.
Oh, yeah.
I talked to Zach yesterday before the show.
And we were talking about like, you know,
what is normal sleep?
pattern is outside of busy season.
And he's like, I wake up at 5.30 every day.
And I was like, what do you do?
Check my phone.
He said, I read.
He's like, I just read everything I can get my hands on.
And I was like, yeah, you're sick in the head.
Well, there's no worse.
In the best way, but.
Yeah, there's nothing worse or, I shouldn't say worse.
There's not a more anxiety-filled feeling than your phone buzzing around trade deadline,
draft, whatever it is.
When you're a beat writer at like two.
30 in the morning. You're like, oh, here we go. And you just got to do it. Nobody does it better than
Zach. No. And after the show tonight, Zach will be hurrying down to the Novacare to catch up with
Howie Roseman and get the latest on if they make a pick tonight. Let's start there. Pick 32.
Obviously, it means they won the Super Bowl. Very cool. They did. I watched that game. Yeah,
that was a good time. I'd like to run that back again. Yeah. Do they pick it 32 tonight, Bob?
I feel, you know what I feel in my loins that I want?
No, I don't know how your loins feel.
They want to trade up.
So did I tell you, I think I might have talked to Tyler about this.
I think they're in primo position to trade up.
That's what I said to Tyler like an hour ago when I got here.
I said, they have enough bullets in the chamber, obviously.
Now also take this into consideration.
Look what Howie Roseman's done lately.
Okay, so he's hit home runs.
It's unreal.
If you're a home run hitter now, are you going to settle?
for singles. I don't think you're going to drop back
to 40, 50th or something like that. No,
you're up there swinging away.
So I think they're, I think
they're drafting tonight. No question in
my mind, that's what I'll say
without doubt in my mind is that they
are drafting tonight. Whether
it's at 32 or moving up,
I would go advantage to moving
up than sticking at 32.
So you don't think, because
the 30 second pick, you know,
Lamar Jackson, famous instance,
sure, or have a team really like somebody
that 32 pick is great
because you can slide up,
get that fifth round
or fifth year option on said player.
Right.
And with this quarterback draft being
one of the weirdest in a long time,
you know,
does a Jackson Dart fall to 32?
Does a show from Louisville fall to 32?
Does one of those guys that's like
a fringe player do the Eagles trade back?
It almost feels like that's more likely,
but I'm with you like,
I just feel home run Howie.
Yeah, like you have the Goddard bullet in the chamber.
you have 20 picks over the next two years.
Yesterday, Daniel Jeremiah from the NFL network,
who used to work with the Eagles,
knows them as well as anybody,
said they're in love with Malachi Starks.
Yeah.
And if Malachi Starks, you know, slips to,
let's say, 21, 22, 23,
you know, do you get a little antsy
and go get your CJGJ replacement?
That's, that you asked me who my guy was,
I'm sure it's another segment.
That's my guy too.
Is it really?
Yeah, we can spoiler it.
Okay.
Yeah, that's officially my guy.
I want to.
I don't mind.
But also if they...
We'll get into our other guys later.
Yeah, we'll get...
But Malachi Sarks is a great example of a guy that probably isn't going to make it to 32.
No.
Do you go get them?
Yes.
Like, and I'm not saying that because of the player.
I'm not saying that I'm not going to lie and say every time I watch George, I'm on Malachi starts all the time.
No, what I'm saying...
Well, it does fill the UGA kink that they have.
It fills that.
It fills a need.
Yeah.
He is projected as a guy that could come in and start right away.
Yeah, he's looking at him.
He just fills out the pads.
He just look it.
Now, I'll tell you what, he's my guy as much as Nick Emanuel Warre.
His is from South Carolina, who I have watched an awful lot.
Because as you know, I had a son that went there.
So Saturdays is South Carolina Saturdays.
This kid is a beast.
So either one of those guys, Jamie, if they don't go deep.
Now here's what I'll say.
I think they're going to go defensive line.
So do I.
If they don't, I think they're going to go safety.
And it's one of those two guys.
Yes.
And I'm great with that.
So I did not get to see Emanuel
play a ton this year.
I've since watched highlights.
Yeah, sure.
Guess what?
Everybody looks good in highlights.
That's why they call him highlights.
Yeah, they don't put out low lights.
But in my one assistance of Fran Duffy's massive draft guide this year,
when he was out in Indianapolis at the Combine,
our heads of content around the company all took a night and helped him data entry.
And I had the night of secondary players and tight ends.
So I was sitting there for like four hours with wine in my hand.
True.
He was just doing it.
combine data entry.
And, you know, 40-time shuttle drill, cone drill, hand size, all that stuff.
And a lot of times I couldn't see the player's name because of how the spreadsheet was set up.
So you would see it.
So I would just see like the athletic score numbers.
And this one guy just kept like jumping off the page in neon at me.
And I eventually would slide it over and it would be Nick Emanuel.
Like his athleticism on paper is like out of the building good.
And then when you listen to the real film grinders, the Fran Duffies of the world, they say, you know, like, if you have these two guys in a gym or on a combine field, Emmanuel
it looks like a different player than Malachi Starks. And then you put on the tape, and Malachi Starks is a better player.
Yeah, yeah. But the like the 6-2-25-ish thing that Manioree is, it's hard not to swoon over.
And I'm not kidding you, like watching South Carolina games this year, like we did a lot, you talk about a guy that's
stands out on a field to be like the first time you watch wow that that guy's playing safety yeah you know
that big that fast so either one of them i'm good with i i will think like i said with i'll say 100
certainty in my mind that the eagles are picking tonight okay i'll go like that i'll go 80 percent
they're going to go de-line same and then i'll say 20 percent i'm not even going to throw it out any other
place but safety yeah the defensive linemen that you speak about if they were
similar situation if this guy's around 20 through 23 and we'll get into Franz
mock draft in a little bit to see where he's going.
Mikel Williams again checks the Georgia kink box that's a big one but he's a
defensive end has a kink box kink yeah they clearly have a perversion for bulldogs Bob
and you have a way with words but Mikelil Williams to me you know I've seen Satterton
from Texas A&N.
and Donovan Azaraku from BC and Mike Green from Vinny Curry's alma mater,
you know, all these guys projected to him at 32.
But did that Mike L. Williams, if he's there at 20 through 23,
that's another guy I consider going to get.
Sure.
You know, and like I said before,
they have enough bullets in the chamber to do it.
And, you know, if it's a case where like maybe the kid Nolan,
they might like an awful lot.
Walter Nolan, yeah.
Now, Walter Nolan's been projected anywhere from all of the,
the mocks that I've looked at from like 12 to falling to the Eagles at 32.
And there's a possible-
Had them in the top 20.
Daniel Jeremiah had him falling to 32.
And there's a possible injury there, I believe.
A lot of guys have injury his here.
Look, nothing is off the board for the Eagles tonight.
I don't think they're going to trade up to the top 10, but I do think they're going to
and here's the other thing I'll say, James, when you're looking at defensive linemen,
and I talk to John Marks about this also.
What do you say, Johnny Marks?
You don't just look at these defensive lines.
in this draft and go, oh, okay, you know, really strong against the rush, but not a great
edge rusher. You know, you don't really break it down without adding this. But how much better
is it with Jalen Carter? Oh, God. Like, dude, that is, that's something that really has to come
into play because that guy's a difference. I mean, if it's a left defensive end that you end up
picking, how much easier his life going to be with Jalen Carter eating double teams? Any defensive
lineman. Yeah. So, like, I think
Milton Williams is a very good player. I think, you know, I've
been a Josh Sweat guy since the jump.
Like, I think they're both very good players. I think they
are made to look tremendously
better by a Jayling Carter.
And you get a legit first rounder, a top, you know,
20, 25 guy with that pick
to put alongside a Jalen Carter.
You can read
what the scouting report says, but it doesn't
add in when they play on a line with
Jalen Carter. That means so
much. That's why I really do think
that Howie tonight will probably go D-Line.
And I agree with you.
I think they might move up.
We're agreeing too much.
We're like lockstep here.
We've often been that way.
We're just visionaries in the way we see the board tonight.
You and I have always kind of been on the right same track.
In our professional careers together, they would always try to throw something in between us.
And it was someone who was usually wrong or whatever.
We just see the truth.
You and I would set the truth free.
And that's what we're doing here today.
Yeah.
I think it's an overwhelming large percentage that they go D-line the night.
Now, safety, I think, is like, if you can get it at a reasonable price, sure,
but they're not going to, like, kill themselves for.
No, I would see.
I think Mikel Williams, they might kill themselves for if he's their type.
You know what I mean?
Like, yeah.
I don't, I know Daniel Jeremiah says they love Starks and apparently the whole league does.
By the way, I watched them yesterday on Good Morning Football from Lambo.
Really, extremely likable kid.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
didn't see that. How about that? Extremely likable. Really good interview.
Well, the Georgia kids, you know, I was listening to something today where people were talking about, you know, that's how they're, Georgia goes after kids that are like that, and then groom them even more so while they're there. So that when they do come out and they are meeting with teams at the combine, wherever it may be, they come off as, okay, I'm not going to forget that kid from an interview.
He actually talked about, Nicole Dean and Nolan Smith coming back and, like, giving them advice and prepping them.
about that.
Yeah.
So it seems like a really good alumni kind of network.
You've only been calling for this, for the Eagles to do this.
I'm not kidding you.
It has to be six,
seven years ago when Jamie first said when we were on the air,
why don't they just draft from the SEC?
It's not that deep.
And how we finally heard you and said,
I'm going to do you one better, Lynch.
I'm just going to go straight to Georgia.
Yeah.
I mean,
you could have had me as a degenerate gambler,
you know,
it's an expert in that war room this entire time.
You pleaded many times to be there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They didn't bite.
that's a shame.
But we see it the same way.
Defensive line most likely.
Safety, probably second most likely if they stay in the first round the night.
I do kind of hope they move up because, look, you're not going to add 20 draft picks to this roster
over the next two seasons.
No.
You have compensatory picks coming in.
You have a slew of draft picks.
You have a Dallas Goddard that the entire league seems to think you're going to move.
You have bullets in the chamber.
So use it.
Go get somebody you really want.
and that would excite me a lot.
If you're winning the Super Bowl and being aggressive,
like you're a damn shark.
Yeah.
And it's just like a player.
You play to your strengths.
Howie strength has been first, second, third round over it.
They have 10 starters since 2020,
10 starters that they've taken in the first, second, or third round.
That's incredible.
Yeah.
I mean, that is just incredible.
So that's why I really do think,
and Tyler and I were talking about this before,
do you get full of your,
like, oh, look what I've done. Yeah. Yeah, you do. And that's that human nature. Uh, that's what an
athlete does. It's what a GM does. A coach does. And why not? Why not play to your strengths?
And Howie's strength right now through the past five, six years has been first and second round
picks. So, no, I don't want fallback. I don't want picking up more pick. No, go out and get. The second
round might be their best round. Like, even pre this, you know, Howie 2.0 or Howie 3.0, whatever version
of Howie, this Phoenix is
that rose from the ashes after Chip Kelly.
He, as good as he's been, like, historically,
they nail second round picks.
They're very good in the second round round.
I just interviewed Brian Dawkins the other day,
second round pick.
You know, like Jeremiah Trotter, second round pick.
You know, Michael Lewis, Sheldon Brown.
Yeah.
You know, you can go on and on.
Deshawn Jackson.
They're really good in the second round.
So we'll continue talking about that.
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Before we get to France thing, Eagles have Dallas Goddard.
Yes, they do.
He's a tight end.
It seems like he's all but gone.
I would love him to stay because I think the Eagles are just a better team with him.
I understand the financial ramifications, yada, yada, yada.
He doesn't want to play on a lame duck deal.
Last kind of opportunity to get the bag, as the kids say.
You're still a kid.
Yeah, at heart.
Does he get moved tonight?
Does he get moved this weekend?
Is he an eagle come Monday or is this a post-June 1st thing?
Like, where do you see this, you know, unraveling?
Yeah, I think he gets.
played out. I think it's an afternoon.
Do you really? Yeah. God, stop.
Maybe not, but if you get through
the draft, I think the only thing that makes sense is post
June first. Yeah, and then
I don't know, I've gone over this in my head a lot. I think
he's here next year. I would love it.
I think something gets worked out.
For those 12 games, he's really good. You know, I was
reading like an article the other day about
the Eagles have learned from what they did to Brian Dawkins way back
when, when it's like kind of Eagles,
air quotes, legends, and
letting them go and stuff like that.
I'm not calling Dallas Goddard a legend,
but in the interim,
big, big piece of their success over the years,
you know, and I do see them hanging on to him.
Do I see them going like fourth or fifth round
and grabbing a tight end or two in this draft coming up?
Sure.
But I would, I agree with you.
I don't want to lose Dallas Goddard right now.
I wish you could just like get, I wish you could,
I don't know, figure out a two-year deal or something
or guarantee this year.
Like, I understand he still wouldn't want to do that.
But, like, I wish there was some amicable agreement.
And what do the Eagles, what do the Eagles have to play with?
Well, sorry, buddy, you've been hurt an awful lot.
Yeah.
And sorry, buddy, but, you know, people wonder about your hands
because sometimes you have some big drops.
Yeah.
We're going to win here for years to come.
You can try maybe to make money, or maybe you say to them,
like, look, just do a prove-it deal.
I would love that.
Yeah, I mean, you know.
You believe in yourself, go out here.
We'll guarantee you this year and you can go make big money on the other market.
Yeah, but I, for two reasons, I don't see it happening for some reason in my head going over everything.
I just don't.
Yeah.
And secondly, I don't want it to happen.
I don't either, but it feels like he's as good as gone.
I haven't felt that yet.
Really?
No, I haven't.
I just feel like they're going to work something out.
Colston, we disagree.
Yeah.
One thing I'd be shy.
I wouldn't be more surprised if I woke up with my head.
sewed to the floor
is if they trade it up for a tight end in the first round.
Again?
They're not going to do that team.
No. I don't see Tyler Warren coming here.
Well, I mean, I would shank you to go get Tyler Warren.
But I feel like Colson Loveland was like, you know,
I always use that 21 to 23 range as like the move up territory.
Like if Loveland's sitting at 23, like I don't think they go get them.
I think they would pray that he falls to 32, but I don't think they're moving up for a tight end.
No, I don't see.
If for some reason, Warren,
falls at like 22, 23
and people are saying, wow, that's, that's crazy.
Yeah, I think I might jump up there from Howl.
He might go top 10.
You know, it's funny.
So many mocks have them going seven.
I saw earlier today.
And then other ones out, yeah, to 21 or something.
Fran's coverage has been phenomenal
this draft season, become die hard.
But one of the things he did yesterday
was he rounded up all 60 mock drafts
and did the, I know,
And did the average draft position of the 60.
Wow, Fran, that is work, buddy.
That is work.
Proud of you.
And I think, Tyler, do you remember offhand?
I don't know if you read it or not.
I think Tyler Warren's most average position was like either nine or 11.
Yeah, it's somewhere in the low single digits, or high single digits, low, double digits.
Yeah.
Well, let's get to Fran Duffy's mock draft.
The final mock draft, it is draft night.
Make sure you're tuning into Bo, Zach, and Fran this evening at 8 o'clock.
our producers, Julia and Brenna and Chris, our social media,
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I've seen all the graphics and all the hard work that's been put into this thing.
And I'm telling you, it's better than the national stuff.
You got to dual screen it tonight.
All right, let's get to Fran's final mock draft.
Now, we're not going to give away every pick because you got to be a diehard to get that full access.
That's right.
You want some of Franz thighs?
You got to pay, all right?
We don't give away the whole thing for free.
I think Jamie is trying to single-handedly get PHI canceled in the last 24 minutes.
Did he say earlier he's going to shank me?
He said he was going to shank you.
Yeah.
So I just want to like.
Like a playful shank.
I just want to make sure everybody like hurt that.
A tickle shank.
That is not going to hold up in a court of law, Jamie.
What's your ticklish spots, Bob, huh?
All right.
Let's get the friend.
All right.
So here is Fran's final mock draft.
Let's talk a little bit about just the general league here, Bob, and what
could transpire tonight.
Number one is all but a sure thing.
Locke and speak of locks,
Tyler Lockett signed with the team
where wide receivers go to die today.
The Tennessee Titans.
Oh, did he really?
Yeah, that's where veteran wide receivers go to die.
Well, Cam Ward should be happy.
But Cam Ward's going to get...
Tyler Rockett's that underrated could receiver.
Yes, he was awesome for a long time.
Yeah. Cam Ward, it's a done deal.
All right, so let me throw this out.
If this is a draft where you have good quarterback,
say four or five really good quarterback.
Is he still number one head and shoulders
or is he getting put there simply because of a need of Tennessee?
I think the latter, yeah.
Yeah, okay.
Daniel Jeremiah said this is a draft of starters, not stars.
Okay.
And I thought that was a pretty good way to someone.
That's a good way putting it.
And, you know, a lot of the experts, you know,
the Dane Bruglers and Jeremiah's and McShay's,
they're all saying that each team's evaluation
and board is so different
because there's such a wide range of players
and it's all kind of like scheme dependent,
whereas like Ezaku could be, you know, 16 for one team
and 45th for another.
And it's like there's just such a wide swing tonight.
A lot of people are saying this could be the most unpredictable first round in a little bit.
The Eagles do have to select someone that has an odd name just so we can hear you pronounce it.
As a Raku, I got that one.
You got that one.
You got him in Worry pretty good.
Yeah.
That's your South Jersey boy, Ezraku.
Yes.
Yes, that's true.
I forget.
He's from...
He played for the Marlton Chiefs, I think.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
I forget the high school.
Yeah, I forget also.
I watch...
Not Camden Catholic.
It's not Catholic.
No. Catholic.
But a really good interview
with Anthony Gargano
and his agent, Andre Odom,
yesterday.
I should check that out.
So Cam Ward seems like a locket one.
We agree.
Travis Hunter, if Andrew Berry
and the Browns do anything different,
I think it would be kind of foolish.
Unless you went from my man, Abdul.
I couldn't fault you there.
But at number three,
Fran has the New York Giants
selecting LaSalle
College High's finest, Bob
in Mr. Addule.
You come in a boy, you leave a man or something?
Boys will be boys, but LaSalle boys will always be
gentlemen. Okay, yeah, it's a little too long.
Yeah, yeah. I got my 25th reunion
this weekend. We just say go Ivers.
Yeah, how about that?
You're getting old, wow. Yeah, I mean,
hell, there's going to be an Abdul-Carter
portion of the athletic wing
in a couple years. Absolutely. Actually,
he should show up to your reunion just to say,
So now the very funny rumor, we always like laughing at the Giants, right? Everybody enjoys that.
I think it's hilarious. It's pretty easy to do. I think it's hilarious they kept Joe Shane because like, come on.
So apparently Brian Dayball's guy is Jackson Dart. Now, my Giants friends are not enthused about cheering for a guy that spells his name with an ex and an S and talks like a lax bro and acts like a lax bro.
Well, you got a problem with kids with people with X's in their names? You're going to talk to my wife about that one? She might fight you.
No, no, no, no, just the way he spells it, not traditional Jackson, a variation.
So the rumor is that Dayball loves Jackson Dart and the Giants are shopping number three.
Baldi's heard it.
It's the whirlwind of the top five talk that apparently Will Campbell is a lock to go to the Patriots at four.
Everybody seems to agree there.
But the Giants are the wild card.
They might trade back to get Jackson Dart, get some extra ammo in the draft instead of passing on.
an upstanding fine young man in Abdul Carter.
Your thoughts.
Yeah.
For any of the other teams in the NFL,
I would just laugh and say you're bringing up nonsense for the Giants.
I don't think they're going to do it.
I mean, that would be stupidity personified.
Here's where it gets real stupid.
Joe Shane's son last night, who is a kid.
I'm not calling him stupid,
but this is not a good look for the Giants organization,
puts on his Instagram,
a produced Jackson Dart highlight real video on his Instagram.
It gets picked up.
He shuts his account off to private to try and stop people from looking at it.
He may have leaked their plans.
I doubt it.
Listen, Jamie, I'm not saying that he did leak their plans,
but this is the kid that wanted Jayden Daniels.
This kid knows ball.
He was spot off.
So maybe Jackson Dart's going to be a great quarterback.
This 12-year-old knows ball, Bob.
Did he leak their plans?
This isn't even a first round pick.
In a lot of these mocks, Jackson Dart is not going in the first round.
So the speculation of the rumor was that they were going to trade back to 26 with the Rams.
The Rams were going to move up, take Abdul Carter, which it was 26 for three.
That doesn't make sense to me because they have versed and frisk and they have youth at D.N.
Maybe they take somebody else.
But that was the rumor.
I mean, and then you take Jackson Dart at 26, maybe get a future or an extra second or third, whatever.
There is no more perfect fit.
If you're looking to rectify your organization like the Giants are, then taking Abdul
Carter at number three.
Well, one of the strengths the Giants do have is pass rush.
Okay, make it an overstrength.
You've got to get the best player there and he is the best player there.
He's probably, in my mind, the best player in this draft.
Yeah.
So, no, I would not give that up.
It seems like Will Campbell, 4 is a lock to the Patriots, general consensus.
now is when things like really kind of could go any direction.
Jacksonville is on the clock at number five.
There's some talk out there.
They could go gentie.
You know,
it's so much fun to watch.
His player,
did you see his player's Tribune article?
It was like two lines long.
And you know how they like write their own things.
I believe he actually wrote this one.
It was like,
it's called tackle football, right?
I would just draft the guy they can't,
tackle. That's me.
Ashton Jenty. And I was like, this kid's awesome. I love
that. He is, he is
so much fun to watch. But
God, Jacksonville, running backs, that's
talking about where people go to die? Yeah, like,
if I was then, I would just build through the
trenches and like give Trevor Lawrence a shot
or go get a D-Linman. Yeah.
Jalen Walker or somebody. Something, but
yeah, I mean, it's, you want to go
for the, for the exciting electrical
pick, but I don't know.
The Raiders are drafting
six tonight. They're a disaster.
So who knows what they could do.
The Jets seem to be tied a lot to Tyler Warren.
Poor kid.
I mean, it's nice money.
Whenever I see anybody signing with the Jets, I just go,
Aw.
That's too bad.
That's too bad.
The Carolina Panthers going eight.
And then number nine,
the New Orleans Saints is an interesting spot
because a lot of people speculate that Shador Sanders
could possibly go there.
Although a lot of people, now the talk today, you know, the hot talk, he's not even a first rounder.
Oh, terrible interviewer, cocky, all this stuff.
Nobody went to his birthday party.
It's so ridiculous.
Yeah, it's crazy.
But do you think, I mean, they're kind of in financial hell for like a permanent state.
Yeah.
So they need to kind of get a couple cheap years of a young quarterback.
So, yeah.
Like, it does make sense.
A car stinks.
Yeah, he does.
Like, that's just a bad organization.
But, like, so you're replacing a known stink for a probable stink that you just don't know yet.
Yeah, you know, I...
Plus the Dion Circus that comes with it.
Again, like you said, Fran has them taking a tackle.
I would build from the trenches out if I was New Orleans.
The Bears, our friends at CHGO,
were on the clock at number 10.
And Fran has them taken, who, if I had, you know, my choice
would probably be my pick tonight in Mikel Williams from Georgia.
Like 6'5-260, just the perfect frame.
Yeah.
Reminds me of Jadavian Clowny a little bit, like just that tall, whoa, look at that.
Yeah, that would be a nice fit here.
Yeah, it's just not going to happen.
No.
Number 11, another one that's been mocked to the Eagles a lot.
I don't think he's going to be on the board anywhere near pick 32.
And that's Walter Nolan from Old Miss.
I think it was Sam Monson from PFF or something yesterday tweeted, like, if Walter
Nolan was the fall to 32, that would be the most Howie Roseman, Howie Roseman pick ever.
Yeah. And it's like, it is kind of too good to be true.
And everything I've read about him and all, I go like this. I do the, is he more Jalen Carter or is he more Jordan Davis?
Because everything I read is like, the motor is there sometimes, not sometimes.
If it's always there, okay, not that he's as good as Jalen Carter, but that's where you go.
But if he's only playing 35, 40% with the Eagles?
Right, exactly.
Is that 40%? Yeah, that's true too.
But is he a guy that you put out there and you're like, I like a Jordan Davis?
Come on, here we go. Here we go.
I'm telling you, his football body just left him.
Yeah.
When he chased down, who's chasing down on the bills?
And he fell out of bounds.
Oh, Josh Allen.
Was it Josh Allen?
I didn't know if he was a receiver or not.
Josh Allen scrambling and he chased him out of bounds.
Yeah.
And then he laid there and looked up at the sky.
And I swear to God, his football body went, see ya.
And it was gone.
That was all we had left.
All right, number 12.
Now let's laugh at the Dallas Cowboys.
Because yesterday, Jerry Jones says that I'm working on two big blockbuster
their first round trades for the Dallas Cowboys.
Why the hell would you say that?
Don't say that if you're making a trade.
Go make the trade.
Like one of the things the Eagles do best is they are tight-lipped,
no leaks.
Like you don't know what they're doing until they do it.
And you got this pervert out on a radio going like,
oh, I'm going to go get me a glory hole and trade up in the first round.
And it's like, dude, why would you say that?
Yeah, if I'm the organization, I'm just kind of like, but nobody can say anything because he is the organization.
And his big fail son sitting up there with him.
Like, oh, yeah, we all, we didn't know what we were going to do in that draft.
And then we got CD Lamb.
And it's like, cool.
What did that get you?
I don't know.
Yeah, that organization is just, could you imagine being a fan of that organization?
No.
Of the Giants, the Jets.
Like, it's just horrible.
Yeah.
Although we were there for many years.
Yeah, that's a past life.
The Cardinals on the clock, our friends in the desert at PHNNX.
Fran has them taking Jalen Walker, another Georgia defensive player.
Then you talk about maniac owners.
Let's go to the Indianapolis Colts at 14.
Fran has them taking Loveland.
So the tight ends are gone.
Two off the board by 14 and Fran's mock.
That's kind of wild.
Two tight ends in the top 14?
That is.
I think that kind of shows you how all over this draft is.
Like the fact that two tight ends are going.
top 14. Yeah, that is,
that's Looney Tunes. That's crazy. But I don't
disagree with either one of it. No.
You know, Tyler Warren, you know, we get a lot
of Penn State games here, obviously. He's a stud.
Oh, my God. He's just a football
player. He played quarterback. He's like Lane Johnson.
Played quarterback. He could just do
anything, you know, third and one,
and you're throwing them back there to just take the snap
under center and get the first down.
And, and the
kid Loveland from Michigan is just
another kid that stands out
when you're watching a game. I got to be honest. I'm
I'm not in love with the last name.
I don't want to say Loveland all the time.
So for that reason, I'm out.
I'm just kidding.
Oh, my God.
Tyler, is this every day?
You got to pass the name test.
He knows my belief in the name test.
Jamie is very, very staunchly into the name test.
It's got a pass.
It's got a flow.
So you envision a guy and you're like,
no, no, I can't see that name on the back of the jersey.
Yes.
And I swear to you, I can't see an offensive lineman named like small.
It has to be like Bruncosky or something.
Yeah, exactly.
Okay.
And then I always say the player's name and I go,
can I envision so-and-so hoisting a trophy?
And the name has to have a certain ring to it.
It's got to work.
Yeah.
Can't force it in there, Bob.
Okay.
The Atlanta Falcons are on the clock at 15.
Fran has them looking after an edge rusher.
One guy that's been tied to the Eagles a lot,
and that would be James Pierce, Jr.
seems like a lot of these guys
aren't slipping in France.
No, and I like this kid Pierce.
Like him a lot.
The way they describe them.
I can't take it to Tennessee defensive end.
No, I hear you on that.
They had, okay, you can go back to a few more years.
He was decent.
Was he okay?
He was all right.
Yeah, this guy's speed lends to his power,
but it's just power isn't quite there yet,
somebody that has to bulk up a little bit.
But he intrigued me this.
guy. If I hear ankle bend, I get shivers.
You get shivers? Yeah, Derek Barnett. Well, his ankle back.
Oh, good. Yeah, you'd see his back almost to the ground when he was coming around the corner.
People got real, real weird about his ankles.
You're calling people weird about them judging his ankles when you have to envision the name on the back of the jersey.
Derek Barnett should get on a feet finder. All right, number 16, the Miami Dolphins. Your boy, Fran has
a man you worry from South Carolina. I go into Miami.
Just, I mean, 6-3-220, just doesn't look to be a safety out there, but so fast, his stride is so long.
He is so impressive.
If somehow the Eagles were able to get him, that would be a, whoa, love that.
Now, this is the part of the draft where I think, like, Howie Roseman could start to have some eyes.
Like 17 to 32, I think it's like wild card range.
You know, obviously 17 to 23 is going to cost you a lot more than 23 to 30.
Sure. But I start... But they have it.
Yeah, but I start to think like this is like kind of the area of the draft where if there's somebody that they really love, like, okay, start making some calls. What's it going to cost us?
The Bengals are on the clock at 17. Fran has them going in the trenches. The Pacific Northwest Seattle Seahawks also stay in the trenches with some offensive line in Fran's story. Then the Tampa Bay Bucks at 19. And a guy that was projected like top 12 not that long ago,
Fran has falling to the Tampa Bay Bucks,
and that's cornerback Will Johnson from Michigan.
I mean, when this draft process started,
Tyler, if I'm not mistaken,
he was like top 10 a lot of times.
Yeah, there was a lot of top 10 buzz for him.
You know, one of the first,
if not the first corner off the board,
and a lot of people's mock drafts, yeah.
So a little bit of a slip in terms of the mock draft world
for Will Johnson.
He's got a medical thing going.
Yeah, a lot of guys.
Yeah.
A lot of guys' girlfriends are in there.
You know what movie that's from?
If you get this,
I'd be impressed.
Okay, no.
Tyler,
it's kind of in your wheelhouse
a little bit,
a little early for you.
Wayne's World.
Yeah, no,
not not.
Wayne's World guy.
They go to the Alice Cooper concert.
And Wayne and Garth
are trying to get into the VIP.
I met Alice Cooper.
Really?
All right, so,
I'd finish.
You know, Alice Cooper
was a background singer for Bob Dylan?
By the way,
I should say,
I said,
you know, first corner off the board.
I should say,
first non-Travus Hunter
corner off the board.
Like, strictly a corner
off the board.
And Wayne and Garth
are trying to get into the VIP
and they're like,
my girlfriend's in there.
And the security guard,
it might have been Chris Farley.
He goes,
a lot of guys' girlfriends are in there.
That's pretty good.
But yes, Alice Cooper.
Great golfer.
Alice Cooper.
Yes, he's like addicted to the game
because it took him off of drugs.
He said that was his new addiction.
Oh, is that right?
When he got clean was golf.
And he said,
I just became addicted to golf.
Are you getting Alice Cooper info anywhere else on NFL
draft?
I know here.
I met him at his bar in Arizona.
Really?
Yeah.
I saw the Bob Dylan movie.
with Shalomay.
I haven't seen that yet.
It's good.
It's slow.
If you like Bob Dylan,
you'll like it.
It's great acting.
Is it over two hours?
Yeah,
I think so.
But Alice Cooper was a studio background singer
on Highway 61.
How about that?
And I was like,
that can't be the same Alice Cooper.
And I looked it up.
And it was him.
He had to start somewhere.
How about that?
All right, we'll continue with this mock draft.
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Broncos are on the clock at number 20.
Omari and Hampton is a guy that seems to be
like a shoe in pick for them.
Gentie is going to go early, according to most.
But Hampton is getting a lot of buzz.
Fran has Hampton going to the Broncos at Pick 20.
Our friends at DNVR are talking a lot about them.
It seems like this one's kind of two magnets that have found each other.
If I'm a running back, there's no place I'd rather not play,
I don't think, than like Denver.
Yeah?
Yeah, I don't, yeah, it's always been a pass-happy kind of organization.
It's cold.
It's always cold there.
It's always going back, getting hit, cold.
Yeah.
Cold place picks next.
That's the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Fran has them going in the defensive trenches, then the Los Angeles Chargers.
Now, Fran has them taking Mason Taylor, the son of Hall of Famer Jason Taylor,
tight end out of LSU, promising kid.
People say their bodies are identical.
Yeah.
Him and his father.
He's kind of one of these late risers.
He was originally kind of like an early second, mid-round second.
Fran has him now up around 22.
So that's three tight ends in the top 22 in Fran Duffman's draft.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
You make a great point.
It just shows how weird this draft is.
Yeah.
Green Bay Packers, another guy Fran has on the defensive line.
A lot of people talked about him here with the Eagles.
I know the guys covered him a bunch.
That's Shamar Stewart.
The guy that didn't really stuff the stat sheet,
but kind of has that raw athleticism
and shows up on film better than the numbers say.
Yeah, it's one of those guys.
He's got to learn NFL technique, you know, things like that.
So the Vikings at 24, Fran has them going to our old friend's school
at North Dakota State with Gray Zabel.
Then the Houston Texans at 25, another offensive lineman.
Then the Rams.
Ekbuka from Ohio State.
This kid is a stud.
I think he's getting slept on a little bit
He is
I mean everything you read about him
It kind of has that
But after the first sentence
You know he's explosive
But
Yeah
Here's the thing
I was thinking about this
And saying would this be a fit for the Eagles
Because I did see one mock
Have him going to the Eagles
They don't throw to the slot
They don't throw to a third slot guy
I should say
If somebody's catching in the slot
They did it while Goddard was here
Does life change if Goddard's gone
I don't know
I just don't see Jalen Hertz going past his passing game of going to A.J. Brown, going to DeVante
Smith and going to Sequan Barkley. I really don't. I just, I would love to see that inside slot guy,
the guy on third and seven that you just know like an Edelman is going to get open and you can get it to him.
But I don't think they do it. I mean, they don't. Yeah. The Ravens at 27,
they have them taking Scorton from Texas A&M. Then the Detroit Lions at 28 takes
South Jersey's Donovan Ezakou from Boston College.
29.
Weird seeing the commanders picking this low in the draft.
Another running back goes in Franz Mach to the commanders there.
And then the Buffalo Bills go cornerback at 30.
Kansas City Chiefs take the next Vinnie Curry from Marshall University.
And that's Mike Green.
And then this is a dream if it happens.
I'd be doing naked cartwheels down Broad Street.
The Philadelphia Eagles select Malachi Starks at pick 32.
Tyler has become immune to your, you know, naked cartwheels, broad street, shanking, all that stuff.
Okay.
That's a dream scenario for me.
I'm good.
You don't have to trade and you get Malachi Starks.
Hell, yeah, Fran Duffy.
So this is my weirdness.
I'll say it.
If he falls to them and they just take him at 32, I am scared.
I'm more disappointed than I would be
if they traded up and got him at 23
because I'm wondering, well, why the hell do he fall to
32? Yeah, I mean, it's a fair thought.
It's just stupid stuff that we do. Jeremiah was putting out
yesterday that, you know, the league loves
this kid. It's not just the Eagles, like
everybody just seems to love them. So as I
said, that is my number one guy.
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She's the best. I would love it.
Yeah, I'd be really, really happy. It's the guy that I've been saying
that I wanted all along.
Sometimes you'll pick a guy in your head
and then you read through everything.
Ah, no, that guy fell.
This guy stayed with me for some reason
all throughout going through mocks,
reading up on player,
watching highlights of people.
I'd be perfectly fine with that.
Although I guess what he's already engaged.
So mature for his age.
Well, maybe, maybe.
Maybe.
Maybe I had to.
But I like Sidney Brown too.
And I think people are forgetting about that
But to your same point, it was concerning to me that he didn't get more opportunities last
year. But he was still a year off, not even a year off an injury. I know, but like McCollum was getting
time over and I'm like, I think he's one of these guys like Paul Reed where he just doesn't
practice well and like get it. I was wondering if it was a why should we risk injury when we are
14 and 3 and we have Super Bowl chances and all that. I don't want to sleep on Sidney Brown.
I want to put that on the record here now. I don't want to sleep on him at all.
All right, Bobby, we got 12 minutes.
And I cooked up a little Eagles draft trivia for you today.
Oh, boy, here we go.
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He is prepared.
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which we cannot hear, but the listeners can.
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All right.
So I have 17 questions here.
Jesus.
Yeah.
A little bit of a wide range.
A couple old ones.
Couple like 80s, 90s.
Not a lot from the last 3, 4 years,
because those are still fresh in the mind.
I have to really test those.
My mind's not that fresh, James.
All right, Bob, here.
We'll kick it off.
Number one.
In the year 2000,
the Eagles selected a defense.
Now, let me just say this.
This is on the harder end of the questions.
So they're not all going to be this difficult.
In year 2000,
Reminds me at Conan O'Brien.
In the year 2000.
Do you see how his mind just, you know, you try to keep your mind going.
He wanders, Bob.
It just like kind of flies all over the place.
This worked for four hours on radio when you've got 59 minutes.
It's not quite the same.
Good luck getting into these 17 questions.
In the year 2000, the Eagles selected an offensive end out of Utah who left the team in the preseason to pursue a musical career.
Who was he?
He had two first names.
Yes, he did.
Frank was he their first or last name?
Really?
That is last.
Okay.
I don't, I have no idea.
I mean, I give you all the credit in the world.
Frank was his first name.
It's John Frank.
Is that right?
Okay.
Sixth round pick out of Utah.
That's great work by you.
Yeah, I don't know why I remember that, but I do.
His musical career failed and he tried to make it back to the NFL never.
I didn't follow him that much after we left Eagles.
I have to be totally honest.
He didn't make it up.
Okay.
All right.
Number two, from 1974 to 1978,
the Eagles did not own a first round pick
because they had traded for Bill Bergey and Roman Gabriel.
Okay.
They made a first round pick finally again in 1979.
Robinson.
Linebacker, UCLA.
Who did they select?
Jerry Robinson from UCLA.
They took a linebacker in the first round.
And he went on to be an all pro.
Yeah.
Look at the big brain on Bob Coom.
All right.
1988
considered one of the
best NFL drafts ever.
The Eagles picked
eighth that year.
Who did they take?
You got to give me a position.
Defensive linemen,
I'm pretty positive.
83?
Oh my gosh.
Wait, let me confirm that.
I'm blanking on the position
for some reason.
No, I'm sorry.
A running back.
Wow.
In 83?
No, it wasn't Wilbert because Wilbert was already there.
In 1983, I'm going to have to go with...
I don't know that.
You know this name.
Sounds like a boxer.
I was going to say Haddicks, but I don't think that's it.
Is it Michael Haddx?
Yes, Michael Haddx.
I didn't think...
I thought he was later than that for some reason.
They passed over Bruce Matthews, Jim Kelly, and Darrell Green.
Yeah, they messed up.
All right.
In 1997, Ray Roe.
I remember him.
Yeah, he took a tall defensive end who he compared
from Virginia.
Ed, two tall Jones at the time of the draft.
Who was he?
Williams.
Oh, no.
Now, wait, what year?
1997.
Yeah, I was, I was, nah, I don't know.
I didn't have that.
That would be defensive end, John Harris.
Harris from Virginia, right?
Yes, he was from Virginia.
My fault.
All right, I get partial credit, right?
Partial, I guess.
I knew what college you went to.
No.
All right.
In 1993, the Eagles took wide receiver.
Great name, Victor Bailey, out of Kansas.
He never did much, but they ended up trading him to the Kansas City Chiefs
and gained a second round pick and selected who with it?
In 1993, they took Victor Bailey.
They ended up trading him, I think two years later or a year later.
And that second round pick became an Eagles last.
Legend. An Eagles legend?
Hall of Very
good. Maybe not legend.
What position did we say? He was from the
University of Notre Dame.
They didn't draft
Golick. Uh,
I'm drawing a blank.
Body Taylor.
Oh, shoot. That's horrible by me.
Come on, Bob. I apologize, people. I think you
messed that up, though. In
1998, the Eagles got
Guff for taking our dear friend,
Trey Thomas.
I love it.
Tray Thomas.
I'm a number 12.
A head of Randy Moss.
That's okay.
Trey ended up
making them eat those words.
Who did they take
in the second round that year?
Trey Thomas went first.
Trotter.
Ding, ding, ding.
You look at the big brain on Bob.
Trey Thomas, Jeremiah Trotter.
Because Trey used to talk to us
about that all the time.
That's a good one-two punch right there.
Damn.
Yeah.
You got two guys that you like to hang with, too.
Yeah.
In 1985, the East
Eagles took an all-American punter in the second round.
Who was it?
Punter in the second round?
An all-American punter in the second round.
85 trick question.
Randall Cunningham?
Ding, ding!
Look at the big brain on Bobby.
Yes, he was an all-American punter at UNLV.
I was thinking Russell Erksleben, who was a...
You guys, would I remember.
Who was Randall's backup quarterback at UNLV?
Oh, it was the announcer dude.
Yeah, the funny guy.
Kenny Maine.
Kenny Maine.
That's right, Bob.
Look at you.
All right.
In 1990, Fred Barnett and Calvin Williams
were the second and third round picks of the Eagles.
But they selected a first round wide receiver that year as well.
Who was it?
In 1990?
I'm sorry, it was second, third, and fourth rounds, not first round.
So in the second round, they took a wide receiver ahead
of Fred Barnett and Calvin Williams who went in the third
and fourth rounds.
Who was that said wide receiver?
Yeah, right.
I got nothing.
I got nothing here on that one.
Mike Bellamy out of Illinois.
Yeah.
You could have given me the bellamy
and I wouldn't have gotten Mike.
How about that?
Isn't that funny how the NFL three years?
Wow.
Did he play any games here?
If he did, I've never heard of them.
Wow.
Who was the latest first round Eagles pick
to never start a game?
What?
The latest, like the highest.
The most recent, the most recent Eagles first round pick to never start a game.
Ooh, good guess, but no, he started pretty much right from the jump.
I didn't think.
Give you another chance.
I was at O'Neill's pub with VG and my friend Hicks, and I screamed.
At this guy?
Yes.
He was there and he screamed at him?
No, I was just like, what the hell are you doing?
This was classic...
Give me a position?
Oh, wait.
This was classic smartest guy in the room house.
period where he tried to
overthink everything and like
any reason? I don't think Howie
was the GM at that. I think that they had turned
it over to somebody else. I thought.
I mean, he was still the GM. You know what I mean? But I think
they had turned like drafting decision
making over to the other guy.
Did you say to start again?
Mm-hmm. Was it Marcus Smith?
Yeah.
Bobby. I knew he played, but I didn't know if he had started
or not. All right. The Eagles traded
Donovan McNabb on Easter Sunday
and they got a second round pick
for them. Who did they select with
the second round pick?
This is the chronology stuff that just like
it's hard. I am
not a good position. Safety.
Quentin Demps.
Ooh, not a bad guess.
That would be Nate Allen from UCF.
All right.
Who was the last Eagles running back
selected in the first round?
Miles Sanders was second round
and you wanted him. You wanted Miles
Sanders. That was a Miles Sanders guy.
Running back in the first round
I don't have that in my head either
You know this guy, you're gonna be real mad at yourself
This is your real house
Was that Ohio State?
That's Ohio State, right, Sire?
Let me double check my work here
See, if you're gonna ask trivia questions
And you don't know
Ohio State. He's from Ohio, the Ohio State University
You'll be mad at yourself if you don't get this
You might not sleep tonight
I'm not bothered you'll be
I don't have it in my head
I honestly don't.
KB.
Oh, really?
Keith?
Yeah, Keith Byers.
Wow.
How about that?
That's the last time they took a running back in the first round.
Yeah.
Wow.
How about that?
I don't know why I don't have that in my head.
That's funny.
What Eagles draft pick became the first player in NFL history
with 25 sacks and 25 interceptions?
Ryan Dawkins.
Ding, ding, ding.
Look at the big brain on Bob.
How do you like that?
Who was the first player draft?
drafted by Chip Kelly during his time with the Eagles.
Huff.
I could make the case.
He's the greatest eagle ever.
Can make the case this is the worst first round
in the history of the draft.
Seriously.
The Eagles got like one of three good players.
Who was first?
Was it Watkins?
No.
I could call him the greatest eagle ever.
I could make the case for it.
Easily.
He's still on the team, Bob.
Lane Johnson?
Yes!
Chip Kelly, thank you.
I did know that.
I do have that in my memory back.
Things are starting to dust off.
There you go.
We're getting warmed up now.
Okay, yeah.
All right.
Deshawn Jackson was the second eagle taken
in the second round of his draft.
Who went ahead of him in the second round of the Eagles?
Give me a position.
I'll give you his alma mater.
Okay.
I mean, I can give you both.
No, no, no, no.
Notre Dame.
Another Notre Dame guy.
It was that running back.
Was it?
And he led the team in rushing for one year with like 504 yards.
No?
I don't know who we got.
Trevor Laws.
Oh, no.
I can see him with the brakes coming out of the back.
No.
Yeah.
All right, Bob, three more.
You got three more here to save yourself.
And we're going to head real quick to overtime.
All right.
When the Eagles trade it up for Kevin.
in the second round,
what team did they trade with?
People thought they were nuts at the time.
Cobb went to Houston.
They traded
up with the Arizona Cardinals.
Ooh. Close, but no.
Not really close. I'm not really close.
The Cardinals used to be an NFC East team,
which never made any sense to me.
The Dallas Cowboys.
Ah.
People were like, oh, you're giving the Eagles,
their quarterback they wanted. That's a bad move.
Kevin Cobb.
I remember Les Bowen going out to like somewhere in Texas and fishing with him, I believe.
Yeah, yeah.
I remember that story.
To write a story.
Kevin Colb?
Kevin Colb can't throw.
You're probably one of the leaders of the Kevin Colb.
No, I got that one right.
It's mostly the baseball players.
I really struggle with it.
Any, you know, I toast.
Yeah.
Okay.
Three straight second round picks in the secondary happened in Sheldon Brown.
Lido Shepherd and Michael Lewis.
Okay.
And they all went on to have great runs with the Eagles.
Right.
What order were they selected?
What order?
Of those three.
In what chronological order did they go?
Um, I'll go.
I think the first round's a layup.
Second round's where it gets straight.
Give me the three guys again.
It is Sheldon Brown.
Lido Shepard, Michael Lewis.
Shepard, I think, went 26.
So I'm going to go Brown, Shepard Lewis.
Wrong?
Yeah.
You really let me down.
Sorry.
Lido Shepard did go, I believe, 26 out of the University of Florida.
Shepard Lewis Brown.
Yes.
Is that right?
Lewis Brown.
Michael Lewis went ahead of Sheldon Brown.
Lido did, I did have 26 in my head.
I think he was 26.
I think you're exactly.
Can you wear 26 also, Ty?
Lido.
Yeah, a little bit before his time.
How old do you think I am?
I watched the entirety of Lido's career.
Now I was a child then.
Number 26, I think, wasn't he?
I think he was.
It's a good question, actually.
Thank you.
And if he is.
All right.
Some of these, even though I'm not getting them right,
like, there's no.
You're close.
You're close.
I got it.
Okay.
These are tough.
26?
26.
Okay.
All right.
Last one.
Amy Reed presided over 14 drafts
on his time in Philadelphia.
All right.
What position of these five
position groups, did he draft most frequently in the first round? Your options are,
offensive guard, defensive tackle, wide receiver, defensive end, or offensive tackle?
I'd go offensive tackle. That's what my head said originally, and then I thought about it.
That's a big head, too. It is a big head. It is a big head. Seven and three is.
Oh, defensive tackle. Okay. Huh. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. He liked those big ass guys.
You got to get the fatty's up front.
You got to get those big asses.
You got to get those big fatties up front.
Was that 17 questions?
17 questions.
How do you feel?
You know, you know, I feel all right.
I probably got about 10, 11 right.
You did all right.
And then the ones I didn't get right, I was right.
Commendable showing.
Okay.
All right.
And we got Quentin.
I think we get a nice little golf club.
We can do a golf club.
Yeah, I think we got a nice little golf class.
All right.
All right.
All right.
That's pretty much going to wrap it up for us here today, Bob.
That's it.
That's all we got.
It does seem like.
real quick, here's the list
as you get prepared, five, well,
four hours and 57 minutes
from now and Zach Bow and Fran
really do the real
draft day work. We're just the
we're the idiots that get
to fill in. Here's the list of
players that they've had
in for pre-draft visits.
Now this is very important because last year
both Cooper de Gene, Quinyon
Mitchell, Anaya
Smith, and Johnny Wilson
all came in for pre-draft visits.
I believe like the majority of their draft picks in the past couple years have all been in for pre-draft visits.
So here is the list, according to their projected round, ish. Malachi Starks, in.
Walter Nolan, in, Donovan Azaraku, in, Maxwell Hirston, Josh Connerley Jr., Trey Amos, Donovan Jackson, Nick Scowarton, Tileak Williams, T.J. Sam.
and then you get a little bit deeper. Tyler, I do like your boy a little bit, the safety out
of Penn State. If you're talking round three or four. KJ. Winston? Yeah. See, my, my, my,
my big concern with KJ. Winston is how does he bounce back from the injury? Because he was
running like a 4-3-8-4-4-40 before the injury, and you ran a 4-5 at the combine. And so I don't
know how he's going to bounce. The kid's a football player. Like, he's a very, very good
football player. I just don't know how he bounces back.
What are your thoughts on the other
two Penn Staters that came in for
visits and his safety?
Jalen Reed? Jalen Reed? I am a huge
Jalen Reed fan. I have been for quite
some time. And he gets a lot of love.
When you read about him, he gets a lot of love.
I'm a huge Jalen Reed. And great
name, Kobe King
also in for a pre-draft.
Kobe King's an interesting one because like Kobe King
is the need linebacker death. He's the type of guy
who like is in the right spot all the time.
He's the short tackler, wraps up well.
like I'm not sure how he translates to the NFL level.
Okay.
So I don't know.
Like I probably see Kobe King somewhere in the fifth,
fourth is, fifth-ish round.
In this, he was, I got to go to my color chart, fifth round.
Yeah, I think that that's probably right.
So you take a shot?
Fifth round.
Yeah, I mean, you're talking about you're throwing darts in the fifth round.
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Yeah, it's draft night.
How can you not?
I can't wait to hear the little jingle.
Yeah, and I can tell my nerves after like six or seven.
But even though the Eagles are going 32, I hope to God, and I do feel fully that they're going to pick tonight.
But if they don't, it would be such a bummer.
Really?
It would be such a bummer.
At midnight, you're going to bed.
There it is.
Oh, yeah.
First couple ones.
First couple ones is cool.
After that, it's like, yeah.
Yeah.
No, yeah.
That's it.
All right. Thanks for coming in today, Bob.
Can I give you a hug like the hugs that are going to be given out tonight?
We have to charge for those on YouTube.
Okay.
Oh, you want to bro, hug it up?
Nah, I don't.
No, I'm good.
Oh, now it's weird.
Never mind.
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