PHNX Arizona Diamondbacks Podcast - BREAKING: Arizona Diamondbacks Trade Josh Naylor to Mariners, SELLING Ahead of MLB Trade Deadline

Episode Date: July 25, 2025

📬 Arizona sports in your inbox! https://gophnx.com/newsletter BREAKING: The Arizona Diamondbacks have traded slugger Josh Naylor to the Seattle Mariners in exchange for much-needed pitching help ahead of the MLB Trade Deadline. Derek breaks down the full trade details, what this means for the D-Backs An ALLCITY Network Production SUBSCRIBE to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/phnx_youtube ALL THINGS PHNX: http://linktr.ee/phnxsports MERCH https://store.allcitynetwork.com/collections/phnx-locker ALLCITY Network, Inc. aka PHNX and PHNX Sports is in no way affiliated with or endorsed by the City of Phoenix PHNX Events: Get your tickets to PHNX events and takeovers here: https://gophnx.com/events/ ALLCITY — including us here at PHNX — is teaming up with Big Brothers Big Sisters of America for an exciting three-year partnership. To learn more, visit https://www.bbbs.org/allcity/ APS: Find instant rebates, discounts and special offers on smart thermostats, energy-efficient appliances and more at https://marketplace.aps.com/default/heating-cooling/smart-thermostats Chicken N’ Pickle: Family friendly fun awaits! Visit chickennpickle.com to plan your visit today! Phoenix Raceway: Tickets, hospitality and upgrades are still available for the NASCAR Championship Series October 31st through November 2nd! Visit the link HERE to get yours now! bet365: https://www.bet365.com/hub/en-us/app-hero-banner-1?utm_source=affiliate&utm_campaign=usapp&utm_medium=affiliate&affiliate=365_03485317 Use the code PHNX365 to sign up, deposit $10 and bet $5 to get $150 in bonus bets! Disclaimer: Must be 21+ and physically located in AZ. If you or someone you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call 1-800-NEXT-STEP, text NEXTSTEP to 53342 or visit https://problemgambling.az.gov/ Branded Bills: Use code BBPHNX at https://www.brandedbills.com/ for 20% off your first order! Gametime: Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code PHNX for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Shady Rays: Head to https://shadyrays.com and use code: PHNX for 35% off polarized sunglasses. Try for yourself the shades rated 5 stars by over 300,000 people. Circle K: Join Inner Circle for free by downloading the Circle K app today! Head to https://www.circlek.com/store-locator to find Circle Ks near you! Monarch Money: Use Monarch Money to get control of your overall finances with 50% off your first year at https://www.monarchmoney.com/phnx All Pro Shade Concepts: Call 623-204-1476 or visit https://allproshadeconcepts.com/ now to schedule your free estimate! When you shop through links in the description, we may earn affiliate commissions. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. #dbacks #diamondbacks #arizonadiamondbacks #mlb #zacgallen #corbincarroll #ketelmarte #mlbtheshow #mlbtraderumors #tradedeadline #traderumors #allstargame Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

I don't know what's happening, guys. Derek, you're muted. Is that better? There you go. There we're back? Yeah, we had nothing from you. There was nothing that whole time. Nothing that whole time.

I don't know who broke my vocal cords, but this would be me trapped in a invincible box. Welcome in, guys. Thank you guys for being here. And thank you for Ernesto for understanding everything that I was saying, of course. Let me start over. Welcome in. This show is brought to you by our friends at Bet365. Our PHNX code or code of PHNX 365 will get you some bonus bets over there. And then go over to game time. If you can hear me now and get $20 off your first purchase using our code of PHNX there to go to baseball games that won't feature Josh Naylor any longer because the Diamondbacks have traded them. This is it. This is the beginning of what we all feared. And it's interesting that here we have Josh Naylor is the first piece that has been moved according to Jeff Passon at ESP. The D-backs have traded Josh Naylor to the Seattle Mariners in exchange for two young arms.

The first one is Brandon Garcia, who just made his Major League debut for the Seattle Mariners. And it seems to be a little bit of the main focus here of this trade because he did, again, make his debut this year and is an actual major league pitcher that the Diamondbacks could use out of the bullpen. The other arm is Ashton Izzy, who is currently pitching. in the Mariners system at high A. And again, just two prospects, two pitching arms, which the Diamondbacks desperately need in their farm system. And honestly, at a major league level right now, in exchange for a player that it's not great depth,

but the Diamondbacks do have depth at first base. They do have Paymond Smith essentially returning here. They do have James McCann and other guys that have been kind of taken some grounders over there at first base. And I mean, just throwing this out as a suggestion. but if the Diamondback should want to keep one Gino Suarez, they could swap him over there at first base as well and maybe have somebody like Blaze Alexander play third

and perhaps Jordan Lawler be that third basement of the future over there while still retaining Gino Suarez's services. But Josh Naylor being the first move here is interesting, and I'm sure that a lot of you are already kind of expecting Josh Naylor to be moved. As far as what I was hearing prior to this, This nailer was not only sought after by a lot of teams, but he was also, I think, one of the guys that was kind of perhaps a priority to move

because of the depth that the Diamondbacks have behind him. Not only do they have the options that I discussed, but Tristan English did get called up this year, and he is a guy that could be the first basement of the future for this team over there as well. So as far as depth goes, as far as minor league options go, So the Diamondbacks probably, I mean, first and third are two positions that they do have covered well. It's the reason why trading either one of those guys makes a bit more sense than the starting pitching, just due to the lack of depth of starting pitching.

The Diamondbacks have been decimated by injury not only at a major league level, but at a minor league level this season. So it makes a lot of sense that, of course, Gino Suarez is the first player to get moved. And it also makes sense that the return here is prospects. now, or not prospects, but pitching specifically. So, and B's in the chat says, yes, more paving. He's excited about that. Jacob asks, why didn't we get Rally, J. Rod, and Brian Wu? Great question.

Great question. Maybe Mike Hazen has definitely lost the step. I was definitely expecting him to fleece Jerry DePoto. And there are some questions here about these young arms. But to be honest, as far as the Diamondbacks needs, this very much fits their needs. And it is them parting with a position player. while still not losing a whole lot. I mean, Josh Naylor, to be honest, was acquired by trade.

He had a fine season for the Diamondbacks. Josh Naylor was a pleasant surprise, maybe not necessarily the power that we were expecting to see out of him with only 11 home runs. But he did have 59 RBI. He had a 2.92 batting average this season for the debacks. And again, he was very solid for this team in a lot of ways. We know he struggled defensively early in the year.

And again, I still don't know if those were his struggles as much as maybe the rest of the team's defensive struggles as well. But yeah, they definitely got themselves, you know, at least the return that they were looking for. Controllable players for a guy that most likely was going to depart this team at the end of the season due to his, you know, expiring contract. So this whole situation, though, does really feel like it signals the beginning. of the Diamondback starting just an absolute fire sale. And when I say that, I think, you know, we just spoke on today's show, Jesse Friedman from Snake's Territory, stopped by, and we chatted about, you know, the possibility that the Diamondbacks could trade

maybe two of these guys, maybe at the most three, but you have a hard time believing that they were going to trade all four of these major pieces that they have on expiring contracts. Not to mention you also have Sheldby Miller and Jalen Beeks, also on expiring contracts. And, you know, again, while it's tantalizing to try to get as much in a return as possible, the Diamondbacks still need the field a Major League Baseball team this season. But I do think that the Diamondbacks, you know, may have, at least may have been able

to get something a little bit more for Josh Naylor, but I do hope that if they end up trading Gino Svarez, that the return is more significant than this. But it is still at least addressing the Diamondbacks. And it's not only right now with a guy that has made his major league debut and is pitching at a major league level, but also a guy that adds to the depth of the farm system and specifically for the pitching for the Arizona Diamondbacks that's been depleted quite a bit. And they need to do everything they can to kind of, you know, balance this, these trades that they're making. The Diamondbacks have some coveted pieces that a lot of teams are interested in. So obviously, this is big for them. But we're going to take a quick break on the other side of this break.

We have more on this trade, what it means for the Diamondbacks. And I'm going to read every single one of your comments, especially the ones about me being muted and not being able to listen to me. And of course, hopefully I won't go away here right now. But don't you go anywhere? You're watching the PHA next Diamondback show. Well, we've been talking about Phoenix Raceway Championship weekend for NASCAR. I've been trying to tell everybody how crazy I am about NASCAR.

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FYI, these were the Mariners' fourth and fifth best ranked prospect pitchers. And again, these are guys that the Diamondbacks need for depth. So maybe not the fleecing as of now, because we still don't know how these guys are going to pitch, but it's very hard at this point of the season, I feel like, to get the kind of help that Diamondbacks need. So there is a balance here for Mike Hazen in these trades to, yes, try to still put a competitive team out there for 2025 and not waive the white flag with these trades, not give up.

But there is rebuilding towards the future. And the Diamondbacks aren't a team that typically, typically takes a lot of time to do that. So there is some shortages, if you will, for pitching depth in 2026. Now that's not going to necessarily be what Ashton Izzy feels. That's more of a future prospect for this organization. But Brandon Garcia seems to be perhaps a pretty good fit here overall. And I think, again, if you are looking at all of the available players the Diamondbacks had that were going to be traded here, that were on expiring contracts, it was most likely that it was going to be Josh Naylor.

E. Heueno Suarez's value is extremely high. Merrill Kelly's value probably maybe even higher than Josh Naylor's. But, you know, Josh Naylor did, he was a coveted piece. In fact, before I heard about the Diamondbacks talking to teams about Gino, I heard that they were talking to teams about Josh Naylor. So really what this comes down to is perhaps this move is one of the two moves that the diamondbacks make and perhaps moving Josh Naylor instead of Gino keeps Suarez in the valley.

I feel like the sentiment overall is that most people of this crop of the four that the diamondbacks have potentially to trade away, that Suarez was kind of the heart here, the fan favorite, the one most of the fans wanted to see, stay here. But I'll also say that, you know, again, that's, that's mostly because of the success and, and what a sweet boy, Gino is. But that still doesn't mean that Suarez won't be traded. And it doesn't mean that Suarez won't be traded to this exact Seattle Mariners team. So there's a good chance that that trade could still happen. The one thing that I feel like indicates that they will still make more trades is how early this was happening. I was not sure when, you know, I was not sure how early these moves were going

to happen. But here we are where the Diamondbacks absolutely have started early and did not wait until that July 31st deadline. So what else? Got some super chats here. I think I got Kevin with me tonight. And you guys know that Kevin's, uh, somehow going to bring the bad vibes of to this team because he's done that so far, uh, in his time. But Kevin, uh, what, we got some super chats. indeed we do there all right we got candace says do so do we put adc at first base or do we call it tristan english and see what he can do i feel like there's going to be uh multiple options tried out throughout this season and if the diamondbacks do have things go south on them if they do kind of wave the white flag the one benefit is that uh guys can get the opportunity to play some of these other positions

and guys can you know perhaps uh get a chance to find a place to play other than like in ADC's case, just solely catcher. So I don't know, though. I don't know how far down the depth chart ADC would be. I feel like the likely option would be to bring up Tristan English. So that's really for me. I mean, the Diamondbacks already did call up Tristan English. So I wouldn't be surprised to see them call him back up.

Also one, Stefan Carey, who used to be the broadcaster for the Admiral Assad Poodles, had raving reviews about English when we spoke the other. day. So there's a good chance that he could be the Diamondbacks first baseman, at least of the foreseeable future or come up and at least be part of the of the platoon there at first base. What else we got, Kevin? B says, we own the Mariners and trade market odds favor us. He's not wrong about that. He's not, he's not wrong about that. But again, it's still have to see how these guys work out. As of course, Killarex is here to say they got to horrible pit. pitchers and he's here to probably demand that Tori gets fired for this trade somehow,

some way. But other people here are here to actually find out what the Diamondbacks got. And I mean, to be honest, I think that they got exactly what they were looking for. It's probably not, it's probably not the fleecing that we thought, but we also don't know what these guys are going to kind of grow into and be for the Arizona Diamondbacks. overall, I think that this is at least a chance for them to get something for Josh Naler, but not maybe not the hall some people expected them to get. I don't know.

I think overall they had some needs to match, and this starts matching their needs, but it isn't, I don't think it's not necessarily enough. I think the Diamondbacks will still make some moves, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's two more moves and not just one more move. but it again, the early timing on this does give me an indication that the debacks still have some work to do here. I would still love to know what they're going to do for, you know, starting pitching should they go out and trade away Zach Gallen and Merrill Kelly. So that still remains to be seen.

And then everybody's waiting to see what happens with Gino Svarez. So it was a little bit heartbreaking there yesterday at the end when, when Gino Svarez was being asked about this trade. because you could very much tell he didn't want to talk about it. And the one thing that he kept reiterating is nothing's been done yet. And, you know, he could be right about that. At the end of the day, you know, it could be the, he could be the one guy that the Diamondbacks try to keep. According to Mark Feinson and the tweet that went out earlier today,

the Diamondbacks are asking for a King's ransom for Gino Svarez, as they should, as they should. It's not often that you have one of the biggest offensive threats on your team available to be traded away on an expiring contract on a team that does not appear to be headed for the playoffs that you can ask for everything for. And then on top of that, there is the possibility of still bringing him back after the season because he is a free agent. So I don't know if the Diamondbacks just go full in and just try to keep him. at this point. But of course, Josh Naylor, at least being traded, feels like the odds have moved a little bit

in favor of keeping Genos Juarez. But let's see. Comments are flying by. Kevin, I'll let you pick out anyone you see here. But I do know that there is a lot of talk about who these young guys are. Carlos here says, I got emotional seeing that

photo of him soaking in what is probably his last home game in Chase Field. And yeah, in regards to that, uh like there there is a weird fan perception i think and and i don't know obviously the the picture we don't help because we use the picture because we think it's hilarious of josh naler uh with raldo prodomo uh throwing gum on him and water on him and all that stuff but uh that night there started this you know i guess kind of idea that that josh nailer was not happy here and did not want to play baseball here and i i will just say since this is the end of his time with the diamondbacks

that i never saw that and in fact i saw i saw I quite frankly saw Josh Naylor enjoying time with his teammates. I will say that he was a different kind of guy. He was a different kind of guy and he has more hockey jerseys than I've ever seen one human being own. And this is coming from a guy that has a heck of a lot of Roosevelt shirts. So I'm not going to throw stones. But I will say that he definitely is a guy that was enjoying his time here, was enjoying his teammates. But also probably knew it was short-lived,

considering that he got traded here on an expiring contract. And pre-wreck here says Naylor is a Canuck through and through, through and through. And I think maybe that was the biggest problem is he was traded to a team with no hockey team. And that was probably the worst part of doing that to Josh Naylor. His soul was too far away from a team. Now, not only as Candace says, he's closer to Canada now, he has a hockey team once again to root for.

So I imagine there's going to be some. electric, customized, crack in jerseys being made for Josh Naylor as we speak. But I will say that he was a key part of this offense. The Diamondbacks have the second best OPS in baseball. And quite frankly, they are not the second best offensive team in baseball without Josh Nailer and without Gino Suarez. So again, maybe trading away Naylor and keeping Suarez keeps their offense potent enough and can continue to try to get some pieces in return.

to make this team somewhat competitive. But as far as this move is concerned, it's looking towards the future. And quite frankly, with the way 2025 is gone for the Diamondbacks, that's what they probably need to be doing right now. So, but yeah, I mean, again, the talk is that there are 12 teams currently interested in Gino Suarez,

and that is only probably going to increase for sure. So the sports boy says, Mark Bindsen said they are fit in to try to trade Suarez for a ton of quality piled layers. But if not, they will try to resign them in an offseason. And I think a lot of Diamondbacks fans would be very, very happy with that. But Russell Smith has been demanding an explanation of these pitchers and this trade. Let me do it for you, Russell.

Let me see. The Diamondbacks went out there and they got themselves a one guy who has been through every level of the minor league system that you can imagine and just made his major league debut. His numbers aren't very sexy, but according to his scouting report, his stuff is pretty electric. So if the Diamondbacks can maybe get a guy like this and part of this trade that can help them fairly immediately,

maybe not do much for this season, but can help fill that gap in their bullpen for 2026. That can be, again, one of the big things that they needed to acquire as part of this trade deadline hall. And then the other player, Ashton Izzy, again, a guy currently pitching in high A, far off prospect, but with the way things have been depleted for this, for this franchise, they kind of need it. And I imagine that here near in the future, they're going to be looking to the services of a lot of those guys returning from Tommy John. So those guys might not be returning necessarily to the AAA system, to the minor league system.

They might stay at a major league level talking about guys like Tommy Henry and, you know, other other players, Blake Walston for certain. but this is not a trade to make this team immediately better, nor did we expect the Diamondbacks to do so, but it is a trade that definitely addresses a big need for this team, which is relief help, and the Diamondbacks absolutely need relief help. The Rooster 574 says Tristan English has been called up. I don't have a way to confirm that right now,

but if that's the case, again, would not be any surprise. The Diamondbacks need a first baseman here in Pittsburgh. to play against the pirates. So we got some media availability tomorrow at 9.30 a.m. with one Mike Hazen. So we will have more from Mike on tomorrow's show. Probably have another podcast in regards to this trade tomorrow with some more here from the Zoom meeting with Mike Hazen.

So we appreciate you guys stopping by tonight. Hope that, of course, this at least explains a little bit of what the Diamondbacks got in return and gives some insight on why at least Josh Taylor was the most expendable piece of the guys with on expiring contracts. The Journey 361 says real talk right now. If Gino manages to fit 40 as a deback but still gets traded, should we free Derek from the bet? I would just be said, no, no, no, there will be no freeing of me of the bet.

If, if Gino hits 40 home runs in a diamond back uniform, this beard is going to look stupid in teal. And if he does it a few games after he becomes a whatever team he gets traded to, I'll probably still do it, just because I think, like I said in the Discord last night. I think we'll all need a good laugh by that point. So looking at me, going into serious press conferences, looking like the clown that Killer Rex thinks that I am,

would probably be very entertaining to most of you. So we appreciate you guys so much for stopping by. Again, we will have way more on this tomorrow. This, my reaction, given it before we get out of here, not surprised at all. And nor should many of you be. And in fact, again, I feel a little bit. a hope that, you know, maybe the Diamondbacks do the thing that a lot of us are wanting

them to do and maybe not trade away the guy that's competing for the home run lead in the National League. But again, we will be back tomorrow with a postgame show after the first game of the Pittsburgh Pirates series, as well as more from Mike Hazen from his press conference tomorrow morning. So we appreciate you guys for stopping by so much tonight. Thank you for your time. Appreciate you. Have a wonderful evening. We will see you guys. You can follow me on Twitter. I'm at cap underscore caveman with a K. You know that. It's a ridiculous Twitter handle. Shout out to my guy G1 for throwing it in a rap song recently. We're going to have to address that on a future episode. Also, follow the show at PHNX underscore

D-Backs, but as always, all roads lead to at pHNX underscore sports on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Thank you again for your time. We appreciate you. We'll see you tomorrow. Hope this brings, like I said, some balance to what is going on. And again, we'll have more for you tomorrow. Have a good night. And remember kids, baseball is fun, but it's so much more fun when you trade away Josh Nailer, but not Gino Svarez.