PHNX Arizona Diamondbacks Podcast - BREAKING: Diamondbacks Acquire LHP A.J. Puk In Trade With Marlins

Episode Date: July 26, 2024

It did not take long for the Diamondbacks to make a move as the trade deadline approaches! Arizona crosses off their biggest need by obtaining left-handed reliever A.J. Puk from the Miami Marlins as r...eported by Jeff Passan from ESPN. We have more on Puk and how he will fit into the bullpen, what the D-backs gave up in the trade, and if this is the beginning or the end of the trades for the Snakes. An ALLCITY Network ProductionSUBSCRIBE to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/phnx_youtubeALL THINGS PHNX: http://linktr.ee/phnxsports PHNX Events: Get your tickets to PHNX events and takeovers here: https://gophnx.com/events/bet365: https://www.bet365.com/olp/open-account?affiliate=365_03330244 Use the code PHNX365 to sign up, deposit $10 and choose between either:Bet and Get offer and place a bet of $5 or more and get $150 in Bonus Bets OR First Bet Safety Net offer by placing a bet up to $1000 and if your qualifying bet loses you receive a matched refund in Bonus betsDisclaimer: Must be 21+ and physically located in AZ. If you or someone you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call 1-800-NEXT-STEP, text NEXTSTEP to 53342 or visit https://problemgambling.az.gov/Indeed: listeners of this show will get a SEVENTY-FIVE DOLLAR SPONSORED JOB CREDIT to get your jobs more visibility at https://indeed.com/allcity. Terms and conditions apply. Need to hire? You need Indeed.Mint Mobile: To get your new 3-month unlimited wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month, go to https://mintmobile.com/diamondbacks. $45 upfront payment required (equivalent to $15/mo.). New customers on first 3 month plan only. Speeds slower above 40GB on Unlimited plan. Additional taxes, fees, & restrictions apply. See MINT MOBILE for details.Desert Financial Credit Union: Open a free checking account online with Desert Financial Credit Union and get $200 in bonuses https://www.desertfinancial.com/200Gametime: Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code PHNX for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply.Circle K:  Join Inner Circle for free by downloading the Circle K app today! Head to https://www.circlek.com/store-locator to find Circle Ks near you!Four Peaks: Follow on social @fourpeaksbrew & @fourpeakspub! Must be 21+. Enjoy responsibly. Shady Rays: Exclusively for our listeners, Shady Rays is giving out their best deal of the season. Head to https://shadyrays.com and use code: PHNX for 35% off polarized sunglasses. Try for yourself the shades rated 5 stars by over 300,000 people.Chicken N Pickle: Head to https://chickennpickle.com to see all the fun you can have at their Glendale location! PHNX will be hosting Trivia Nights and Pickleball Tournaments so stay tuned for info!When you shop through links in the description, we may earn affiliate commissions. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:10 Skiy welcome in to an emergency podcast. This emergency podcast is brought to you by Indeed. Listeners of this show will get a $75 sponsored job credit. Get your jobs, more visibility at Indeed.com slash all city. That's indeed.com slash all city terms and conditions apply. Need to hire. You need Indeed. And Jesse, the Diamondbacks needed indeed.
Starting point is 00:00:32 And what I needed is some personal time to have interest outside of baseball. I'm out here trying to, you know, live my best life. You know, I got my Deadpool action going on, Jesse. I got my morally ambiguous popcorn bucket. And instead, once again, while I'm at the movies with Megaran, I get interrupted by a notification that the Arizona Diamondbacks have once again done something. And of course, yeah, here we go. Here we go. They did do something.
Starting point is 00:01:02 They did the thing that we've been talking about. And they went out and they got themselves a left-handed reliever. Let's go, Jesse. What did they, what happened here? What did they do? Derek, the Arizona Diamondbacks, we just got word, have traded a couple of prospects, a couple of bigger name prospects for them. Andrew Pintar was an outfielder down in AA as well as Davis and Delos.
Starting point is 00:01:25 We've talked about a lot this year. It's been raking in AAA. And in exchange, they get left-handed reliever A.J. Puck from the Miami Marlins. If we look at AJ Puck's numbers for the season, it might not, these numbers won't jump out to you necessarily. If we can get that on the screen, it's a 4-30-E-RA in 44 innings, a 134-4-WIP, 9.2Ks per 9, 4.7 walks per 9, a 362 FIP. If you're wondering why the Diamondbacks gave up, what feels like a lot looking at numbers like
Starting point is 00:01:55 this, I bring you to our next graphic, which is AJ Puck's numbers specifically when he's been used as a reliever this season. He spent the first four outings of the season actually as a starter, something he had never done before in his major league career. It did not work. So the Marlins made him back into a reliever and Derek, he was absolutely sensational. 30 in a third innings as a reliever this season, a 2.08 ERA, 0.76 whip 9.8 case per nine, 1.8 walks per nine. And honestly, this last number maybe captures how dominant he's been better than anything else, a 456 OPS for opposing hitters against him while he's been in there as a reliever.
Starting point is 00:02:39 He is someone we probably would have gotten to. We hadn't talked about him yet as a potential trade deadline target for the debacks, but someone who certainly made sense for the diamond backs to be interested in. And he is a left-handed reliever. We talked about how the debacks interested in potentially a lefty or righty as long as it was someone who could pitch in the back end. But I think we all know that a lefty was always going to be the ideal scenario. You know, give Joe Mantiply someone else.
Starting point is 00:03:05 out there as a, you know, sort of partner in crime as a left-handed reliever. So this was a big move. And Puck is a really big acquisition for the Diamondbacks here just before the trade deadline. Let's take a look at that the season numbers again, not with just the relief numbers, but the season numbers. This is what people are looking at when they pull up AJ Puck's numbers. And again, Jesse, like you said, this is why things don't look great for him just overall.
Starting point is 00:03:34 but this includes four starts, which he started, the first four games he pitched this season. He allowed 14 earned runs in 13 and 2 thirds innings pitched as a starter. So it really inflated those stats. Of course, one thing that we have talked about in the past is the Diamondbacks acquisition of Ryan Thompson last season. And we know how good tea time has been for this team, not to mention for me personally, to have somebody to talk about pro wrestling with in the clubhouse. but Ryan Thompson has been incredible, Jesse,
Starting point is 00:04:04 and of course, it was kind of the same scenario with him a little bit, not that he started, but that it only took a few games to really inflate that ERA and make his numbers overall kind of look bad. When the raise, I guess, looked at who they thought could be expendable from their bullpen, they, I guess, incorrectly chose Ryan Thompson because he has been an absolute asset for this team. AJ Puck could be just a huge,
Starting point is 00:04:32 sigh of relief for the diamondbacks his numbers as a reliever are incredible at 2.080 r a 9.8 strikeouts per nine but the 1.8 walks per nine that's really something there it just it's the weapon that he is as a left-handed pitcher out of the bullpen diamondbacks currently only have joe mantiply and i mean this is this is exactly the kind of pitcher the diamondbacks we're looking for it did cost them a bit and it cost them a little more than you know, maybe they wanted to give up, but in the end, they were able to part ways with guys that we just talked about today, at least one of those, in Davis and Delos Santos. and he has been raking this year. I don't want to take anything away from this young man. And I think this could be a tremendous loss for the Diamondbacks and not trying to get too negative.
Starting point is 00:05:19 So I'm very excited about AJ Puck. However, we already lost Davis and de los Santos. And that was the point I'd made just on today's show. He was the first name that comes to mind because his value right now couldn't be higher. And then you have the fact that it is like playing with house money a little bit, right? this man was already acquired by the Guardians, and he luckily came back to the Diamondbacks, and now they're able to use him as a trade chip to go out and get a great left-handed reliever like AJ Puck, possibly one of, I mean, at least based on his numbers this season,
Starting point is 00:05:54 one of the best left-handed relievers, the Diamondbacks have ever had. Yeah, yeah, we were talking about that before we jumped on air. I mean, at least if you think about the Mike Hazen era of this team, you know, Andrew Chafin has had some good stints for the debacks for sure. Obviously, last year wasn't working so well. The debacks wound up moving him to the Brewers at the deadline. Jake Deekman is the only other left-handed reliever that Mike Hazen has ever acquired at the deadline. That one didn't go so well, Derek, and then get a ERA over seven the rest of the way.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Somehow is still pitching in the majors. It feels like Jake Dekeman's been around for forever. But yeah, AJ Puck brings a level of dominance as a left-handed reliever. combined with pretty solid command. I know his walk numbers for the season aren't good. But again, if you just narrow in on when he's been pitching out of the bullpen, he's at 1.8 walks per nine. He has six walks and over 30 innings pitched in that role.
Starting point is 00:06:48 So the command combination with also the stuff, you know, it's 96 miles an hour from the left side. It's really unlike anything the Diamondbacks have had from the left side out of the bullpen in quite a while. And in turn, as you alluded to, the diamondbacks gave up a lot in this trade. I said it last year when they traded for Paul Sewell, that that on paper was an overpay. I think this one you could argue is an overpay on paper as well. Davis and Delos Santos, there is a non-zero chance that Davis and Delos Santos is hitting between 30 and 40 home runs a year in the major league, not all far from now.
Starting point is 00:07:25 And he's only 21 years old, I believe. So that chance is absolutely still out there. And that's just one guy. But the other guy that's part of this deal, center fielder Andrew Pintar from the Hillsborough Hops, had an incredible season up to this point, slashing 304, 403, 516 with a 919 OPS. Another very exciting young player that we've talked about a few times on this team or on this show.
Starting point is 00:07:51 And, yeah, I mean, even though he's kind of far off, there's been some guys on that Hillsborough hops that have been doing some incredible things, including some of their pitchers as well. You just don't know what these type of guys are going to be. Hillsborough isn't Amarillo or Reno, where when you see a guy hitting 304 with a 516, you know, slugging percentage that you think that that's inflated due to where he plays. Like, it's not the same as those ballpark. So even though it's a, you know, high A, it's still some pretty impressive numbers from Pintar.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Yeah, Pintar, he hasn't been there long, but he did get promoted up to AA and Marillo pretty recently. He spent some time out with injury as well. So he hasn't had very many at bats in AA at all. He was not faring particularly well there. He was hitting 184 with a 526 OPS in just 10 games played at AA. So again, a pretty small sample. But yeah, I mean, Andrew Pintar was a legit prospect for this team.
Starting point is 00:08:51 MLB pipeline had him at number 30 in the Diamondback system. They had DeLo Santos, I believe, at number 14 in the devac system. you know, Pintar was a fifth round draft pick just a couple of years ago and really was coming on strong this year. D-Backs were kind of trying to figure out where to play him. He came up as a shortstop, struggled a little bit in the infield. They decided to move him to center field and it seemed like he'd been progressing fairly well in that spot. But yeah, again, like the debacks gave up quite a bit in this trade. You know, Davis and D. Los Santos by himself felt like a pretty big price for a reliever.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Andrew Pintar is very much legitimate prospect in his own right as well at, you know, at double A at 23 years old. So it's a big price to pay, but it's also what we, I don't think we've mentioned yet. You're not just getting A.J. Puck for the rest of the season, as you would have with a lot of the other relief pitcher candidates we talked about, you're getting him through the end of 2026. And that's a pretty big deal that debacks have theoretically one of the better left-handed relievers in baseball under control, not just for this season, but for the next.
Starting point is 00:09:56 next two seasons as well. There's been a few comments in the chat about worrying about that at a later time in regards to the progression of someone like DDLS or Pintar, right? Like Davis and Delos Santos, we've never had a problem admitting he was going to hit the crap out of the ball. It's a matter of do the other factors of his game, just like a couple of other guys the Diamondbacks have in Reno. Like they're mashing.
Starting point is 00:10:24 It's just can they play defensive? defense at a major league level. And if they can't, then their value isn't really there. Not to mention the fact that you still have to hit in the majors, which is different. You know, it's not like the Guardians didn't give De Lo Santos a chance there. They just, by taking him in the Rule 5 draft, had no choice, but to either roster him or basically give him back to the Diamondbacks. And ultimately, that's what they did because he wasn't ready yet to play at a major league level. I agree with Jesse 100% on this, that there is going to be a day where this man is going to torment us for trading him away. There's no doubt about it.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Maybe. I mean, I don't think that's a guarantee at all. I think that I think it's a possibility for sure. Now, on the other hand, I do just want to admit that sometimes in life, you have to be okay with the fact that you, you did already lose this player. He somehow made it back to you, just like when you know, you DFA a guy and he clears waivers and then still makes it back to, you know, the team or something of the sort, right? It's good that he came back, but, you know, if the Diamondbacks were going to trade away a prospect that's having a great season right now, this was the guy to do it with. This was the guy of value. It's the reason why he was the first name that I thought of earlier today. Someone said, I jinxed him. I would disagree and just suggest that I'm very smart and good at my job.
Starting point is 00:11:46 But I would also say that it's kind of a no-brainer. Like really, when you think about it, the Diamondbacks have some very young, talented prospects that I'm sure they're getting. getting some phone calls on that they don't want to trade, but when you have to look at things realistically and the way things went down with that Rule 5 draft, with losing him to the Guardians, it's kind of, again, like playing with house money. The bigger thing here is, is the Diamondbacks are now in a position where they are adding to this team and trying to win a championship now.
Starting point is 00:12:19 I was thinking about this with the Texas Rangers, Jesse, because their season isn't exactly going the way they wanted to, and there was discussion that the Rangers might end up being sellers at the trade deadline, their GM said, you know, there comes a time where I have to start, you know, looking at when we can win our next championship and that might be further down the road. They got their championship, right? And so like the Rangers are satisfied and they can kind of be okay with, even though they're defending champs kind of having a mediocre season and maybe waving the white
Starting point is 00:12:50 flag here a little bit at the trade deadline to try to prove the team down the road because they don't think that they'd have a chance this season at winning another championship. There are windows sometimes, and the Diamondbacks might very, very possibly be in their window to win a championship. We didn't think it was going to be this early. You know, we didn't think they would do what they did in last year's, you know, postseason. But they're in a different position than the Rangers. They didn't get the job done. And they feel like they still very much have the team here to compete for a championship this season. I feel like they just secure a player that can
Starting point is 00:13:26 solidify their bullpen, which has been a problem at times this year, give Tory options late in the game with a high leverage guy, and they got what Mike Hazen wanted, which is, you know, a guy that is going to be part of this organization beyond just the end of this year.
Starting point is 00:13:41 They didn't mortgage these two young studs for a rental that's going to be gone here in six months. I mean, if we just look at the Diamond Box bullpen right now, like, God, I feel pretty good about this group. right i mean in the back end you've got paul c walt kevin ginkle ryan thompson justin martinez a j puck you know joe manse apply certainly pitch some some beginnings this year for the team he'll probably you know take a step back i would imagine to puck in the highest leverage situations but i'm sure he'll still be pitching in big spots um and then you know you've also got uh bryce jarvis uh debacks you're going to have to make a
Starting point is 00:14:17 roster move i'm not totally sure what this means for miguel castro i imagine that miguel castro will stick around in Tiago Vieira will be the odd man out here from from a roster standpoint. We'll see kind of what that moves look looks like. I imagine this will be made official pretty soon here. We'll get that move here in the next 24 hours before tomorrow's game. But yeah, that's a good group. I mean, that's one of the best that's one of the best bullpens in baseball. I feel pretty comfortable saying it's not, I'm not saying it's the best necessarily,
Starting point is 00:14:49 but that's a bullpen where if you're in the later innings and you're facing one the better teams in the league. You've got weapons to get just about anybody out and a variety of weapons to go to. You know, we saw the debacks in that finale against the Cubs, right? We talked about this in our post game show for that game where they had used kind of their big four relievers on back-to-back days. And Justin Martinez was the only guy they were comfortable going to for a third straight day.
Starting point is 00:15:16 And they just felt like they were out of weapons. And for J-Mart, it was a tough spot to be in because he was on his third straight day for the first time this season. The more weapons that you can add, you avoid those situations. You allow yourself to be aggressive using your relievers and know that the next day, you're still going to have enough guys who are ready to go and, you know, help you finish off some games. Well, of course, the Diamondbacks didn't need to worry about hiring because they got Mike Hazen
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Starting point is 00:17:34 it. But are they done? Is this it? I know that obviously we've heard that they had other needs. Mike Hazen discussed other players that they might target, but this acquisition of AJ puck definitely checks a lot of boxes on what Mike was looking for in one guy, right? Help from the bullpen left-handed, controllable. All of that is done. But we know that the Diamondbacks are still potentially looking at like a right-handed outfielder, maybe an infielder.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Do you think that we'll see these moves get done? Do you think there'll be more moves considering how early this one got done? And this one being basically the most important. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, that's the real answer here. You know, I'm sure we'll talk with Mike. here pretty soon and kind of get his perspective on on where things go from here but based on the conversations that i had with you know with him uh over the weekend in chicago it wouldn't shock me
Starting point is 00:18:30 if the debacks were done i mean this was the this was the thing on the to do list that seemed achievable and also seemed like it would clearly move the needle for this team they they had a need for another reliever especially a left-handed reliever and a j puck is you know on paper a great solution to that problem. Outside of that, I just don't know if this team has any other needs that they can realistically fill. If you're getting Eduardo Rodriguez back, if you're getting Merrill Kelly back, you really don't need any more help on the starting rotation. D-backs are good there, as long as they feel good about getting those guys back. And we've still heard nothing but positive reports about their progress here over these last couple of weeks. And from a position player
Starting point is 00:19:14 standpoint, I mean, earlier on, you know, on our afternoon show, we were talking about. talking about Luis Renhifo, you know, you try to come up with guys who could realistically be traded that would move the needle for this team and wouldn't cost a ton. And there just aren't really many guys out there that they clearly would accomplish that. So we'll find out in the coming days. Hopefully we'll get to talk to Mike soon and kind of get his perspective on what he wants to do from here. But it wouldn't surprise me at all if AJ Puck is the Diamondbacks loan trade deadline acquisition. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that if that winds up being the case.
Starting point is 00:19:50 I mean, this was the big need they had, and he certainly fills that need. Joseph Davis in the comments is kind of disappointed with the potential we sent away, hope it doesn't snake bite us. And yeah, I mean, that's really what it comes down to it. There is a way where everybody wins, right? And that is that those players go on to be very good players for the Marlins in the future, and that makes us regret it. But in the end, if, you know, the Diamondback somehow find a way to get to the
Starting point is 00:20:18 mountain top this offseason, I think there's going to be that, you know, ability to separate those two things and say, well, it was worth it, right? And honestly, I mean, the Diamondbacks are set up to be a very similar team that they are this year, the next year. I'm not saying, like, that everything's going to go great for them. Hell, we don't even know what August holds for this team at this point. But what we do know is that they're in a good position with a lot of these guys now, you know, kind of solidified for next season and this season.
Starting point is 00:20:48 And it really does feel like, you know, again, their biggest need was the bullpen, the lefty in the bullpen, right? I mean, this is shopping for your kid on Christmas and you got, you got the big present, like early. You're like, man, now I just need some stocking stuffers and I'm good, you know. But, and again, there are some ways that they can still upgrade this team. But we take a look and it's hard because a lot of the players, on this Diamondbacks team are playing well.
Starting point is 00:21:13 And they went out and they got platoons. They got guys like Randall Gritchick and they got Jock Peterson. They got you know, Gino now playing good baseball. I mean, nothing's going to happen to Corbyn, no matter how good or bad he plays. He's always going to be out there being given an opportunity. You know,
Starting point is 00:21:29 there's some questions about the future of a few guys. And I think that you know, that's something that you, that's a bridge you cross when you get to it for now. You just know that these guys are here for this season. They're hungry. And they have experience now in the postseason, which is something that they didn't have next year. I don't know how that could impact them if they do make the postseason this year.
Starting point is 00:21:49 But I think that what will very much impact this team is AJ Puck being a part of it, being a lefty out of the bullpen. And again, just giving them that other option besides Joe Mantipli to go to, he's been incredible. And I think somebody in the chat, I think Benjamin asked to compare him to Tanner Scott. So since we are very high on Tanner Scott, would you mind our guy Eric, by the way, EZE on the ones and twos, would you mind pulling up just the reliever stats again for us for AJ Puck because I'm going to kind of compare them verbally here. We don't have a graphic ready for Tanner Scott.
Starting point is 00:22:25 I mean, we did a few days ago. But this season, Tanner Scott has a 1.21 ERA and a 0.985 whip. AJ Puck a 2.08 ERA and a 0.76 whip. Like there it's I think the idea here between Tanner Scott and AJ Puck is, is they're both the best, the two best relievers, the left-handed relievers that were available on the market. And I think that to be fair,
Starting point is 00:22:53 there's a chance of Tanner Scott would have cost even more than this, even if this is seen as kind of a hall there for Miami-R-Marlands. I mean, we have no idea what Tanner. Scott was going to cost, but we really, we really thought that it was going to cost possibly too much for the diamondbacks. Maybe it did. Yeah, I mean, looking at comparing their, their opponent OPS real quick, Tanner Scott is at 438 this season.
Starting point is 00:23:19 And then if we pull it up one more time for AJ Puck, I think it was 456. Yeah, 456. So, I mean, both of these guys while in the bullpen role, of course, Tanner Scott's been in the bullpen the whole year. But for AJ Puck, while he's been in the bullpen role, I mean, these guys have been almost equally unhittable. And this is especially true for AJ Puck over his last 14 appearances. I tweeted these numbers out, Derek. They're absolutely insane.
Starting point is 00:23:46 A.J. Puck has not given up a single earned run over his last 14 appearances. If I can pull up those numbers here real quick, it's pretty remarkable stuff. A.J. Puck is it 16 and two-thirds innings, three hits. it's not a single run allowed, three walks and 25 strikeouts. Those numbers will play. That is pretty impressive stuff. He has only gotten better seemingly as the season has gone on. And another thing that's interesting with Puck is that he was on the injured list briefly.
Starting point is 00:24:19 We mentioned that he opened the season in the starting rotation. He made four starts. It did not go well whatsoever. And then he actually was on the injured list with what MLB.com had looked. listed as shoulder fatigue, which is a bit of an ominous injury diagnosis. But it didn't last very long. He was just on the IL for about two or three weeks. And then he came back and has been, you know, working with the Marlins as a reliever
Starting point is 00:24:45 ever since and has been very, very good. So it seems like you definitely do not want to try AJ Puck in the rotation. The Marlins did that. It did not go well. The deback should not try that this year or probably in the couple of years to come. But in that bullpen role, he has been almost as good as Tanner. Scott. I know the ERA doesn't quite match up there. But if you look at some of the peripheral numbers, he's been one of the one of the best for sure. Uh, shout out by the way to our guy,
Starting point is 00:25:12 Kevin Haskey. Uh, he says, happy birthday, Tori Lovolo. Uh, is that I didn't know today, July 25th, Tori Lovolo's birthday. What a present Mike Hazen got him. Now we know why this happened early, Jesse. Mike Hazen was scrambling. He forgot to get Tori something. And he's like, you know what? I'll just pull the trigger on that AJ puck deal. That's they'll make Tori, they'll thrill him. They'll thrill him. Haskey also says, also let Strom cook,
Starting point is 00:25:38 drink water, Jesse. He's not wrong about that. You definitely should drink some water. I know you haven't drank enough water today, but the Diamondbacks, man, they got themselves a good one. And I know I can see, based on the reaction, there's a lot of people right now on Twitter
Starting point is 00:25:50 that are not very happy with this trade, especially considering Davis and Delos Santos, which he has been a guy that a lot of people have come to get excited about is part of it. However, I implore you, to at least look at the relief numbers, know that that's what the Diamondbacks are bringing in the ear for. And, you know, again, much like Ryan Thompson,
Starting point is 00:26:13 like this, that was a huge acquisition that we just can't discuss enough. And I feel like even though this cost more, considering Ryan Thompson was, you know, just picked up, this definitely feels like a very similar move in that the Diamondbacks bullpen that is probably, arguably the best it's ever been, it just got better. Yeah, I mean, the bullpen was such an asset for this team down the stretch last year and in the playoffs. And I think this bullpen is now significantly better than that one, right?
Starting point is 00:26:46 There was no Justin Martinez last year, not in the playoffs. Obviously, he pitched a few innings during the regular season. It didn't go real well for him. You know, taking that unit that was pretty darn good last year and adding AJ puck to it, adding Justin Martinez to it. And then beyond that, like Bryce Jarvis has been pretty good for this team. And also, it's worth mentioning yet again that once you get, you know, if and when the Diamondbacks get Eduardo Rodriguez and Merrill Kelly back in the rotation, that frees up some
Starting point is 00:27:15 other arms to potentially move to the bullpen. Do we see Ryan Nelson become, you know, a long relief type for the debacks at that point? Slade Sikoni also, the debacks recently decided to change his role to reliever. he's been doing that now down in AAA for a while. That's a role that I think he could be really effective in as well, given what we saw during his time as a starter, right? He was really, really good the first time through the order and then things would fall off pretty dramatically after that.
Starting point is 00:27:44 So this team has way more potential weapons in the bullpen than it did a year ago. And given the history of this franchise, Derek, that is a crazy thing to say. It is a crazy thing to talk about this bullpen being one of the best in all of baseball, given that this franchise has almost never had anything close to that, you know, going on on almost 30 years of existence at this point. So it's, you know, there's still other guys that are going to have to come through and do their part for sure. And getting all the way to the World Series is much easier said than done, no matter how good your roster looks on paper. Sure is. This, this bullpen is up there with the best for sure. Well, it'll be interesting to see if
Starting point is 00:28:26 the Diamondbacks continue to add any trade people. especially if the Diamondbacks add any more bullpen arms. It doesn't feel like they really need that at this point. I think that would be getting a little a little greedy. It's a hat on a hat, right? With the potential for Slade Sacconi to slide in there and be pretty effective. Or Ryan. Ryan Nelson to slide in there.
Starting point is 00:28:46 It seems pretty unnecessary at this point for the team to go get another reliever. I'd be pretty shocked if that happened. And again, wouldn't be too surprised overall if this was the only move. they may in the next five days. We'll see, Derek. We'll see. Maybe Mike Kazan has said something else up his sleeve. Well, we definitely have something else up our sleeve, which is, you know, we're going to bring you more trade candidates anyway.
Starting point is 00:29:10 We know we got our guy, but that doesn't mean we're going to stop talking about the trade deadline until the trade deadline has come and gone, which is next Tuesday at 6 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. Make sure to keep it locked here until then. Of course, we will be back tomorrow with a postgame show. Hopefully, I just, I won't go. going to any more movies. I mean, if I don't go to any more movies, the Diamondbacks won't make any more trade. So I'll just refrain from going to do with a nigerand anymore. I think people in the chat would probably say that maybe you should. Maybe I should. Yeah, maybe I'll see twisters tomorrow. No free. Anyway, we thank you guys so much for being here. Make sure to join us for a post game show on
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