PHNX Arizona Diamondbacks Podcast - Corbin Carroll leaves game with injury as the Diamondbacks get swept for the first time in 2023

Episode Date: July 7, 2023

The Diamondbacks broke a number of streaks in their three losses at Chase Field to the New York Mets, and none of them were positive. The D-backs were both shut out for the first time this season as w...ell as being swept for the first time in 2023. We also saw Corbin Carroll leave the game with an apparent shoulder injury. We sound off about the frustrating series against the Mets, discuss our updated MLB Power Rankings, and look ahead at Arizona’s final series before the All-Star break.SUBSCRIBE to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/phnx_youtubeALL THINGS PHNX: http://linktr.ee/phnxsports PHNX Events: Get your tickets to D-backs Takeovers, Knockout Nights & Suns Watch Parties at BetMGM, and MORE here: https://www.eventbrite.com/o/phnx-56002330273 Go to https://birddogs.com/PHNX or enter promo code PHNX for a free Yeti style tumbler with your order.Go to https://saturdayneon.com and use code PHNX for 10% off your order today. Free shipping for orders over $200!Gametime: Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code PHNX for $20 off your first purchase.Pins & Aces: Check out https://pinsandaces.com and use code PHNX to receive 15% off your first order and get free shipping.Circle K: Text PHNX to 31310 to join the Circle K SMS subscriber club and get BOGO 32 oz Polar Pops! Head to https://www.circlek.com/store-locator to find Circle Ks near you!OGeez!: Learn more about OGeez! at https://ogeezbrands.com//. Must be 21 years or older to purchase.Four Peaks: Follow them on social @fourpeaksbrew & @fourpeakspub! Must be 21+. Enjoy responsibly. When you shop through links in the description, we may earn affiliate commissions. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:02 I don't know that's what words can I even say to deal with what we just saw. Welcome in to the PHNXD Backs podcast, quite possibly our saddest, most frustrated podcast of the whole entire season. We're not doom and gloom, ladies and gentlemen, but. The sky might indeed be falling. My name is Derek Monta, occasionally known as your mayor of the city of Phoenix. This man next to you, he is Sean DePaz, sometimes Mr. Electric, but definitely not tonight.
Starting point is 00:00:46 The power is out. The lights are out, and it's not because of Scott McGuff, that man down there. Jesse Friedman, your vice mayor and your thunderstake. Boys, Corby and Carroll left the game. Just recently. Very shortly ago, we're still just still sitting here dealing with this. We're dealing with these feelings, with these emotions, completely perplexed about what we just saw.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Corby and Carroll left the game at the bottom of the seventh after swinging at a pitch. Things did not look good. I don't want to be overreactionary, but I don't know how you couldn't be looking at what we saw, Jesse, just now. I mean, we just kind of sat here in silence watching it over and over before we started the show, and it just doesn't seem real. It didn't look good. That's about all I have to say at this point. We need to wait until after the game, you know, see, see what updates the Diamondbacks have. We might not hear a super complete update tonight.
Starting point is 00:01:44 But it didn't look good. This is the same shoulder that Corbyn Carroll had season-ending surgery on back in 2021 at the start of that minor league season. Of course, he tweaked it about a week ago. You know, there were a lot of questions being asked then, but miraculously, he was fine. The Diamondback said there was no need to do any imaging. Everything was structurally sound. Everything was okay. I don't want to be too doomsday about this at this point because we still don't have any answers,
Starting point is 00:02:15 but it really, really didn't look good. This was not what we saw the last time around about a week ago when he tweaked it. Today, it appeared from what we saw on TV that he was saying that he can't feel it. I don't know. I'm not as good at reading people's lips as maybe Sean is. That's what I heard too. Sean's the expert lip reader around here, but that's kind of what we all saw. And yeah, we just kind of have to wait and see at this point. Obviously, the rest of this game wasn't great either.
Starting point is 00:02:45 We had a whole rundown of a whole bunch of things to talk about with this game and how the Diamondbacks been playing in recent days. But Corbyn Carroll missing significant time, I mean, there would be no worse thing that could happen for this baseball team. and it feels like that's the primary topic of, of, you know, what kind of what this show has to be after what we saw today. Well, and obviously there's satir ramifications, right, Sean, because I know that in the grand scheme of things,
Starting point is 00:03:11 all-star games and all-star appearances aren't really that important, but they are. And you can't say that they're not. They mean the world to us as fans, and they do, in fact, mean the world to these guys. Corbyn Carroll was going to start in his first all-star game as a rookie in the city that he grew up in
Starting point is 00:03:28 and that's now in jeopardy. Obviously if this injury is of any kind of of serious nature there's no chance that he's going to play in the All-Star game at all. And that sucks. That sucks. But now we
Starting point is 00:03:44 have more than that, right? Now this goes beyond just the All-Star game and it goes into the Diamondbacks season, this season that we had so much hope for, this season that there's so, I mean, I again, Like Jesse said, I don't want to be all doomsday, but it's hard not to be after both this series loss and the loss of Corbyn Carroll. But the series loss feels inconsequential now compared to the loss potentially of our rookie of the year.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, yeah, the game became kind of not irrelevant because, I mean, there was a lot to be upset about before Corby got hurt. But, yeah, I mean, it's more than it's more than even just Corbyn or this season. Like there was a lot riding on it. someone in the comments, Preston was saying that if that question is whether or not Kedrick ever approves an extension after Carol,
Starting point is 00:04:33 if Carol doesn't work out, right? Like, which is obviously like, that's a very, it's very premature, but like, if he keeps having, if he keeps having shoulder injuries and stuff like that, like there's a lot of riding on this between stuff like, between the fact that it was a very big contract, the picks that ride or potential pick that rides in him becoming rookie the year and just like all of the excitement in the franchise
Starting point is 00:04:51 kind of just seemed like it just, it went like, Thanos faded away. right in front of you. The blip, just we all watched it fade. I think up in the chat, Nicholas had a super chat. Thank you so much, Nicholas, for your super chat. And Nicholas Grutter says,
Starting point is 00:05:07 Corbin is going to need to fix his swing. He can't flail with one arm on his follow-through like that. It's going to be a career-long issue if he doesn't fix it. I don't know entirely about that, but I do kind of understand where you're coming from. I don't know if that swing is an issue medically for him, but obviously with a shoulder injury, it's always going to be a concern.
Starting point is 00:05:26 And anytime we see something like this with him, we're going to instantly think the worst. Obviously, we all hear hope it's not. We all hope that this is similar, just a similar tweak to what happened where he missed some time last week. But this doesn't really feel like that, Jesse. I mean, the pain he was in,
Starting point is 00:05:44 the discomfort he was in. Like Sean said, he was saying something about, I can't feel my arm or I can't move my arm. Like it was really odd that this, or this looked much worse than, than last week. And it's hard to believe that they're not connected, right?
Starting point is 00:05:58 Yeah. It is possible that what happened with Corbyn a week or so ago was actually nothing. There was no structural issue. It was just sort of a weird little fluke. It was nothing. But it feels like there's a non-zero chance that that really was something. And the Diamondbacks, as far as we know, didn't see it as being necessary to do any kind of imaging after that.
Starting point is 00:06:21 And that actually led us to potentially. a larger injury here. Again, we don't know, and I don't want to go too far down that road at this point, but it seems naive to not at least consider the possibility that what happened a week ago and what happened today are connected, and maybe the Diamondbacks a week ago should have taken Corbyn's injury a little bit more seriously than they have. Yeah. Tonight's game obviously terrible. Like there's a lot that we could cover for Ryan Nelson's start, for instance. Ryan Nelson's line. He was once again not good at Chase Field. It's just so odd the way that Ryan Nelson continues to only be good on the road. And the way that Zach Gallen, for instance, seems to only
Starting point is 00:07:02 be good at Chase Field. But Ryan Nelson went three innings, gave up nine hits, seven earned runs. He walked none. He struck out one. He just wasn't effective. He had two whiffs on his cutter, one whiff on a fastball. That was it, the entire outing. It was just, there was just a lot of bad with Ryan Nelson from the start. It didn't feel like he came out and was strong out of the gate or really got it back on track at all on this album. He really didn't. I think we have a graphic that shows where Ryan Nelson's four-scene
Starting point is 00:07:34 basketballs were in this game. Where weren't they? It's not great. Everywhere is the question. Gestures wildly. That's where his fastball was. I mean, I would slightly push back on that. Like it wasn't he was all over the place.
Starting point is 00:07:49 It was that he was right down the middle. All the time, right? He just got way too much of the strike zone. And the few four seamers that he did get up above the strike zone, which is sort of a go-to spot for him, he likes to get swing and misses up in the zone. Most of those pitches were fouled off or they just didn't actually get Mets hitters to swing.
Starting point is 00:08:10 And that's kind of a disaster for Ryan Nelson on a day where he doesn't have really any of his secondary pitches going. It is, yeah, it is very, very difficult. for Ryan Nelson to succeed when those pitches aren't working and when his fastball location looks like it did today. Carson Kelly has officially replaced Austin Adams. Yeah. Kind of figured that was no Rojas.
Starting point is 00:08:35 No Rojas. Sad. Well, the offense was very bad. And the Diamondbacks obviously are going to suffer their first sweep of the season. It remains to be seen if they suffer their first shutout of the season. but a lot of bad happening in this game. And the offense has not been good at all, really, in this series. We can take a step back.
Starting point is 00:08:58 I mean, there was a, there was the softest bench clearing you've probably ever seen in your life in the seventh inning. That seemed like it was caused more by home plate umpire Tripson, if we're being honest, than it was caused by Francisco Alvarez, who was the hitter or Jose Ruiz. Obviously, Francisco Alvarez was the hero for the Mets in game two. he hit that home run that tied the game off of Andrew Chafin. Basically, they were down to their last strike, last out, last everything, and they tied the game. So I feel like between the apparent stare down with Christian Walker,
Starting point is 00:09:33 where he's just looking, Christian Walker's just a looker, but apparently there felt like there was maybe some bad feelings. So when Alvarez got plunked, Tripp Gibson really stepped in to ensure that there was no bench clearing or fighting that was going to occur. And instead it seemed like he caused the bench clearing and fighting to start. There was some hand throwing.
Starting point is 00:09:54 There was some gesturing. There was some stuff going on. But for the most part, it felt like Alvarez was just going to take first. And Ruiz was going to get back on the mound. Alvarez is innocent in it, though. He did definitely take a distinct step towards the pitching round and was looking at Ruiz. But at the same time. I don't think it was ever.
Starting point is 00:10:08 It didn't look like he ever really had a clear intention. I feel like it was just a reaction. Yeah. Because like that's sometimes like when you get hit with a ball, sometimes you're pissed about it. Well, and I think sometimes you got to look up and be like, did you just see that on purpose? Yeah, right, right. Like, you got kind of trying to read what the pitcher did too.
Starting point is 00:10:23 So, I mean, it's, yeah, it's what it's, it was a very soft. Everyone was a little good thing. I think Cattel also kind of ran in there originally. And I think that kind of keyed off the bend clearing too. Like, yeah, it was a thing where everyone kind of was just making a situation out of nothing. This, yeah, this is, this is a lot of frustration boiling over. There's a lot of things happening here that aren't great. But another thing that isn't great has been the Arizona Diamondbacks usage of Dre Jameson.
Starting point is 00:10:52 We don't even know what they're, what are they doing with Dre Jameson? Before the game, Jody Jackson asked Tori Lovelo about like late inning options. And she was saying how despite the success that Castro Chafin and McGuff have all experienced, they've also all been pretty terrible in the ninth inning. Like not a single one of them kind of stands out as being better than the rest as far as coming in in that closing situation. So Jody kind of asked Tori about Dre Jameson if he would potentially be an option.
Starting point is 00:11:22 And Tori specifically said that Dre has not been getting a lot of outings where he goes out there and has long relief outings. So his pitch count is shrinking, his ability to go out there and do more than, you know, one plus inning is becoming less and less. So he did say that Dre Jameson was potentially an option for them in late innings.
Starting point is 00:11:43 But as Jesse points out to me, almost every time Dre Jameson pitches, it feels more like he's just sent out there to mop up someone else's mess and to get the Diamondbacks through sminnings, which doesn't really seem like a great use of someone like Jameson. If you look at Jameson's last four outings,
Starting point is 00:11:58 so first of all, they're very spaced out. The last one before today, today being July 6th, the last one was on June 29th. So that's a week ago. Before that, June 23rd, almost a week before that, June 18th, June 15th.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Um, so yeah, he had, his last four outings came in a span of 23 days. In 20, in a span of 23 days, Dre Jameson pitched four times. Um, and yeah, I mean, if you look at his numbers in those games, he was pretty darn good. Nine in the third innings, seven hits, no runs, one walk, 10 strikeouts. Uh, he's no Carson Kelly is. I know people are, people are pointing out Carson at a successful ninth inning, uh, for the diamond backs. But, uh, yeah, I mean, Dre wasn't good today. And frankly, his numbers for the season. I wouldn't, I don't want to get too far down the road of Drey Jameson has to be the new closer for the Diamondbacks. He's clearly a better option than Scott McGuff or Andrew Chathen or Miguel Castro. I'm not really there. The only thing I'm
Starting point is 00:12:59 really saying now is that the Diamondbacks usage of him has been really weird. He's kind of a mop up guy, but he's also like pretty good to be a mop up guy. And we know that he really enjoys these high-intensity moments. We know that he really, and especially we saw that early in the season, right? When the Diamondbacks were playing the Dodgers and the Padres on the road to open the year, Drey Jameson pitched really well in some of those games in high-levered situations. The Diamondbacks right now, they're hardly using him. And when they are using him, they're oftentimes in games like this where, frankly, the game is over the moment that he steps on the mound.
Starting point is 00:13:36 We do have a breaking update now to jump in on you, but it's a good update. Jody Jackson, as people were pointing out in the comments, tweeted out, Carol is in the dugout now. I can only hope that this could be a sign that it's not as serious as it looked. I mean, honestly, the hymnsaid that I can't feel it was almost encouraging to me. As somebody who does not have any kind of medical background, but to me, like, my immediate thought on that was, I am not a doctor. But my immediate thought on that was, someone mentioned it earlier in the chat. It reminded me of a pulled shoulder or a separated shoulder. Dislocated shoulder would be a fairly favorable.
Starting point is 00:14:09 But I mean, maybe it was just like a weird stinger thing where he just kind of lost feeling in his arm for a little bit. How many like Corbyn Carroll scares can you have in one in one season, right? I mean, I'll take a million scares over one real injury. It's just, I mean, there was the one in Colorado. Yeah, with his knee or his leg, right? And then that wasn't very serious, but he still missed time. And now you have this. I mean, you also had the last time this happened here.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Yes, Michael Vic, Nate Cleveland is here in the chat. What's up Mike Big? No, I wanted to say, honestly, like, it sucks because I feel like no matter what, I feel like no matter what, Corby and Carol is going to miss the All-Star game. I hope it's not. I hope it's not. I hope it's not the games. But I feel like that's going to be. And I mean, even if that's not that big of a deal, it still is a big deal.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Like that's still, like my heart breaks just thinking of that. But then I selfishly am like, okay, well, as long as he's cool to come back after the All-Star break. Yeah, I mean, at this point, I like, fucking don't play in the All-Star game. Yeah. Like, and obviously it's awesome, but you can go, you can hang out. Don't play the All-Star. Be there, hang out. Unless this was just like a sticker, it literally was nothing.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Yeah. Then, yeah, I mean, plus in a vacuum, and I'm not saying this would happen, it'd be pretty awesome to see Lordus Curie L' start an all-star game. Like, you're opening up spots in the outfield. You're just going to make Jesse mad because he doesn't think Lord is dessert. No, he doesn't. That's why it's hilarious. That's why it'd be even better.
Starting point is 00:15:38 he gets in. I mean, yeah, they could put in like a reel. Well, that's the other thing, too, is maybe one of the guys who got snubbed gets a chance to get his shine. Nicholas Grudor brings up again the swing. He says he over extends super hard and his follow through. I cringe every time he swings and misses. Wish he followed through with two arms. Someone else talked about Fernando Tatis that when he had his shoulder tear.
Starting point is 00:15:59 He had to change his follow through to a two-handed swing. I don't know how. It's a fair point. I don't know how that's going to impact him. But as far as health-wise, I, I'll take a loss of production versus him having this happen once every month or
Starting point is 00:16:14 a couple of months or however often that this could happen. The D-backs have spent 58 days now, either in or tied for first place in the National League West. Is that going to come to an end before the All-Star break? Perhaps. But it still doesn't mean it's the end of the season for the Arizona Diamondbacks. And who knows? The Dodgers might lose tonight.
Starting point is 00:16:32 We might, even with this terrible loss and this series sweep, we might still see the Arizona Diamondbacks being in first place in the NL West by the time that All-Star break rolls around. I believe it. I think there's, listen, I mean, I hate saying this, but like, because it's a very, like, excuse energy, but the reality is the Mets are supposed to be a lot better than they've been the season.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Like, they are supposed to be a good team. So, like, and I, like, I don't, it would suck to be the reason that they figured it out, but maybe this was just the series where they figured it out. And now they're going to be on a run. They came into the series. playing well too. Yeah. So, like,
Starting point is 00:17:10 so I know we were, like, we were being very apocalyptic and people were saying it's like, it's not over. It's not over. Like,
Starting point is 00:17:16 I still think that they will win the series against the Pirates, which would mean that there will be in first place at the All-Star, or I mean, at least tied, right?
Starting point is 00:17:23 The very worst. Um, at the All-Star break. So, like, depending on what the Dodgers do this weekend. So, like, I,
Starting point is 00:17:30 I, like, it's fine. I'm not, I mean, there's still like, the bitter concern for me will happen before the Corbin injury.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Like, Obviously, we have to see what happens. If he's out for the season, that obviously drastically changes the year. I don't think that's going to happen. But, like, if, like, they don't have a full rotation. Like, the offense didn't do anything this series. Like, there's other problems that go beyond the Corbett injury
Starting point is 00:17:54 that are concerned regardless of what happens. Yeah. I think we probably should talk about the offense a little bit. Yeah. Coming into. Elis makes a great point there, by the way. DeBacks made Carrasco look like Zai Young tonight. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:06 And Carasco is just not. not good. I mean, Carlos Carasco has been one of the worst starters in baseball coming into this. His fastball has just been absolutely torched. And for some reason, the Diamondbacks are just really struggling to square it up today. It has been their offense in general. I mean, it just has struggled recently. In seven games entering today, this doesn't include today. The Diamondbacks are hitting 202 as a team, dating back to the first game of that Tampa Bay Ray series. They've scored two runs, one run, six runs, three runs, two runs. five runs, one run, and then I guess today, zero, most likely.
Starting point is 00:18:43 No, it's over, yeah. It's over. There you go. So the shutout is the shutout is now official. But yeah, the D-Backs offense has really gone silent recently. And part of that has probably been because they were without Corbyn Carroll for a few days. And recently they've been without Coutel-Marty for a few days. And now they're probably going to be without Corby Carroll for a few days.
Starting point is 00:19:02 And Pavan Smith isn't here. So what else do you expect? If Corbyn can't play, if Corbyn gets put on the DL or something, or I.L. whatever it's called now. Yeah. Who's coming back up? Paven Smith.
Starting point is 00:19:13 I mean, it can't be Paven Smith because once you send a guy down, you can't call them up that quickly. So I would need to go back and look at exactly what day they made that move. But if they were making a roster move tomorrow, I don't think they could call it Payven Smith if they wanted to.
Starting point is 00:19:26 But they might make a roster move that involves them bringing up somebody to fill that spot that they currently have in their starting rotation, at least for this upcoming series with the Pirates. Tori did not He said specifically today he did not know But we're going to get the probabilities here in a minute
Starting point is 00:19:43 But it's just interesting because now Who knows? The hope here is that Corbyn Carroll does not get put on On any kind of anything And I believe we don't have to worry about that Being a thing Yeah I mean Like
Starting point is 00:19:56 I mean we said it already But like He's not in the dugout if he like tore his shit Like if his stuff was really fucked He's not hanging out in the dugout He's not Certainly encouraging him Yeah, it really is. It really is. So I don't know where I'm putting my money on the BetMGM app as far as his injury goes, but they did take, they immediately took off odds for National League rookie of the year.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Immediately. I'm at that MGM. Yeah. Yep. Wow. Because that's going to change things. He was negative 650 for the odds on winning rookie of the year. He was a surefire.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Like, by far and away, in the American League or in the National League, he was the biggest favorite to win that award. I am broken. We're all broken. Damon, we're all broken. I definitely do not have a future on L.A. Dela Cruz to also live a rookie year. You son of a bitch.
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Starting point is 00:22:42 Yay, we're here. Probable starters for this. coming series. We were here the whole time. We promised you guys. But a lot of TBD here, what we were talking about, that you couldn't hear us say, was that the pirates have still no
Starting point is 00:22:57 starter scheduled for the final game. It doesn't mean they're not going to put a pitcher in there. That's not how baseball works. And the Diamondbacks still don't have their starter listed for game two, which feels very much like it might end up being a bullpen start. But, yeah, we don't know for sure. How would Dre Jameson, having pitched in today's game, Jesse, that kind of impacts the ability of that possibly being a bullpen start.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Yeah, it does. I believe Slade Shikoni does line up to potentially start that game. So I would not be surprised that the Diamondbacks go that direction. He's had back-to-back really good starts down in Reno. His four seamer was up to 95.5 as an average in his last start. So his stuff has certainly been ticking up in the positive direction recently. after today's game and how heavily the Diamondbacks used their bullpen, I wouldn't be surprised if they go that direction.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Just so you know, while the audio was out, the only thing I said was Dick Mountain. So, which is a nickname for Rich Hill. Some people don't know. I guess I should have provided that. I was referring to Rich Hill.
Starting point is 00:24:06 I think about 90% of our listeners know. But that 10% I just had to clarify. I also love that we got our first fire tourie of the night. Yeah. Yeah. Let's go. Let's go. Welcome in, guys. We thought we would get that right out of the gate, so I'm surprised.
Starting point is 00:24:22 But, yeah, no, now we have an interesting series with the pirates who, by no means, are a pushover themselves. But the Diamondbacks need to get back on track. It's a, I'm not going to say an easy team to get back on track from, but hopefully they have a little bit more confidence. Yeah, right. And I really hate the fact that, you know, they're kind of limping here into the All-Star break. That part sucks, considering that this team has spent so much time, either tied or in first place in the National League West. I feel like it's really important to keep perspective on a day like this. I don't want to.
Starting point is 00:24:58 No, I don't want to. No, forget your rational bullshit, Jesse. This is what Jesse is here for. You got to let him spread his wings. Hey, I mean, earlier in the show, I mean, I was a little more doomed. I was a little more realistic, a little more in the moment earlier in the show. But I will say the Diamondbacks were 50 and 38. They are in first place in the NOS.
Starting point is 00:25:18 And before the season started, if you had asked any Diamondbacks fan, if they would be cool with being 50 and 38 at this point in the season and being half a game up on the Dodgers and the Padres being as far out as they are, people would probably be very, very happy with that. As I see nobody... This guy, Thunderbolt, fuck, perspective. Nobody is happy. Oh, yeah, Thunderbolt.
Starting point is 00:25:43 You'll get to know Thunderbolt. Thunderbolt hates everything positive and wants us. He just wants to turn Chase Field into a parking lot. I get it. Go ahead, Jesse. Please continue being rafter. There are, yeah. And I mean, today is still a really rough day for the Arizona Diamondbacks, obviously.
Starting point is 00:25:59 And there are some very serious concerns moving forward about whether the diamondbacks can maintain the position that they're currently in. So I don't want to make it sound like everything's hunky dory. and the Diamondbacks are going to coast their way to a playoff spot. The debacks a week or two ago, it seemed like making the playoffs was, I don't want to say a guarantee, but it was like, yeah, you're definitely trending in that direction. And after what's happened over the last few days, and especially with Corbyn, you know, going through what he did, obviously we don't have any updates there yet. But, yeah, people are probably not feeling as comfortable putting the debacks in that conversation
Starting point is 00:26:34 at the end of the year. And I think that's fair. There are way more questions surrounding this team right now than there were a week or two ago. And I think you have to be realistic about the state of the rest of the NL in the first half of this season. Like the Dodgers, the Padres, the Mets have all not been as good as they were supposed to be. Not that obviously the Mets has a direct relation to them in the division. But like the Padres and the Dodgers have not had as good of a season as they have supposed to have had as they were supposed to have had up to this point. And the D-Backs have had a much better season than there was.
Starting point is 00:27:07 supposed to have had. So, I mean, like, they're, I think they're obvious, they're better than anyone expected them. And I don't think that is, like, I don't think that's in question. Like, they're clearly a good team, but they have clear problems that, like, the really good teams, like the Braves don't have that need to be fixed if they want to be a team like the Braves. I like that we got one comment from Elijah Unger that says 124 and 38 incoming and then two comments later, Alex says season over, man. bring it in guys bring it in
Starting point is 00:27:39 whatever you're feeling whether it's good or bad we are here for you because the diamondbacks they only have a half a game lead in the national league west the Dodgers won tonight so leave and I expect them to them things are getting there right but you're no longer in like sort of coast to the finish line territory where if you just kind of hold it together and go 500
Starting point is 00:27:58 or a little over the rest of the year then you'd be in a good spot you're like okay now you're only 12 games over 500 at this point so if you go five the rest of the way, then you're 87 and 75, which is kind of right on the edge. Like the debacks need to play well for the rest of the season in order to get where they want to get to. And that's the big thing here is that the National League West has kind of been competitive. You know, like we talked about how good the Giants have been, even though they're missing the pieces they're missing. We've talked about the Dodgers, still being able to be a winning franchise without the, they've gone through way worse losses.
Starting point is 00:28:35 I feel like them the Diamondbacks have gone through this year and they still find a way to win. So like you said, it's not going to be easy. And none of the teams in National League West are going away except the Rockies. They've already gone away. We could have been the Rocket City Trash Pandas tonight. They lost 29 to 3 on 18 hits
Starting point is 00:28:53 to the Chattanooga Lookouts. Yeah. Take hard Diamondbacks fans. 29 runs on 18 hits. The other thing is, in their last 10 games, the Diamondbacks are 4 and 6. They don't feel four and six. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:07 It feels like they're 0 in 10 in their last 10 years. I mean, if you back up two more games, they're four and eight. So, yeah. I mean, it all depends on how many games you look at. We're just doing 10, Jesse. That's what they put on the standing screen. How do you bounce around so much from being negative to pause it to be irrational? Pick a goddamn lane, frame it.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Like, people, people oftentimes cite like the last 10 games stat, like as if the last 10 games is the only window of time that matters. Like, how you did in your last six games. That's all it matters to me. Last 10 is the only one that's relevant. I don't know about that. Yeah, no. Also, though, two of the games that the Diamondbacks lost, they lost in like basically the last out of the ninth inning,
Starting point is 00:29:48 and they had a lead. So you could say what you will, but the way that the Diamondbacks have been losing games is the kind that will drive a fan base nuts, right? Absolutely heartbreaking. It's games like last night where you're a strike away. And your broadcaster is consistently saying, they Scott McGuff has never won a major league game before until tonight and they've only they've only won nothing games 11 times in their history before tonight and stay that way
Starting point is 00:30:15 he loves saying that shit he loves it and I like I get it I get it you get bored you want to say funny things spice it up but see like let's just let let let's leave it like not spicy just for once I don't know what we can do here but my god clearly Steve is the problem yeah he's clearly Steve is clearly he's clear he's drunk swearing on the freeway of That is a bar. Thank you. Thank you, Pedro. I just like to be generally contrarian.
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Starting point is 00:31:57 do the Diamondbacks not really have a chance unless they make these moves here in the next month at the at the trade deadline to bring in some sort of reinforcements because it's feeling like more and more that guys were able to sustain a certain level of success but once we started seeing once they started getting seen pictures got getting seen things started happening everything fell apart for this team like it felt like we had a number of resources we felt like brandon fought was in the waiting in the wings to come and save us and be you know our new ace and like it feels like a lot of the things that that we were hoping for have kind of fallen part for this team. There definitely has to be a sense of urgency going into the trade deadline, right? I know a lot, so many people on Twitter have been sounding off in the last few days about how, you know, irresponsible it is that Mike Hazen hasn't made any moves yet. And so that, I say relax. There are very few teams that have made any kind of moves up to this point. I know Raldas Chapman was traded, but outside of that, you haven't really seen any, any movement outside of peripheral pieces for teams.
Starting point is 00:33:03 So it's really too early for a lot of teams to figure out which direction they're going to go at the trade deadline. And that's obviously going to be a huge factor this year. There are a lot of teams that are kind of right on the bubble right now that need to decide which direction they're going to go. If you're the Diamondbacks, you are officially, though, at a point where if you want to be able to maintain your position in the NOS, if you really want to go for it this season, which I would think you would want to do that. This team has holes. And it's not only on the pitching side. I think in the last few days, you've started to see this team's weaknesses offensively and how, you know, when Lourdes kind of slows down a little bit, you know, if Cotell misses a few games or whatnot, this team is
Starting point is 00:33:45 not as deep offensively as you might have thought a few weeks ago. And I think the diamondbacks would benefit from some additions on that side of the ball too. So still a ways to go. I'm not at all in at, and the mode of critiquing what the diamondbacks haven't done up to this point because it's just way too early for that. But they probably need to do some stuff and they're probably going to have to do some pretty significant stuff. A couple of things in the comments to address. Elijah Unger says why at the deadline, I think the reason why at the deadline is because
Starting point is 00:34:14 teams aren't really ready to make a move yet. There are so many teams right now in Major League Baseball that are still in it in some way. The Mets. The Mets are weeks old sellers and now they did this and you have to think that they're completely change the dynamic of your season. If you're the Mets, yeah, you're not trading Verlander or Scherzer or like, you're not even entertaining that idea right now. And I think the Cubs went on record saying, if we trade Marcus Stroman, it's going to happen like on
Starting point is 00:34:39 the 31st or like on the first. Like it's not, we're not going to make that decision any earlier than we have to. There's a lot of teams in that position right now. It's too many, in fact. And it's going to make the trade market very sparse. And it's going to cause the teams that are selling to command. a ridiculous return. And that's going to be a problem.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Even that, I mean, Nick Ahmed, Carson Kelly, cash considerations for Show Hey, that'll get it done, right? Yeah, oh yeah, totally. Show Hey, Otani for Nick Ahmed, Carson Kelly, cash. Dude, I would trade... Haven Smith probably needs to be included in that deal, right?
Starting point is 00:35:11 I would trade both of you for Showhayotani. I would sneak into your houses at the middle of the night, in the middle of the night, drug you, ship you to Anaheim, California for Showy O'Tani. I like... You're laughing. He said both of us. I'll do it.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Both of us. In a box. In a box with no holes. Oh, like when he's shipping him off to the All-Star game, no, this is bullshit. I traded so much for you and this is how you're going to treat me in return. Yes. For Show Hey, yes. Damon might get thrown in the box, too.
Starting point is 00:35:43 I'll be quite honest. I'll produce to show myself. Oh. I feel like the D-Back's main obstacle in trading for Show Hey, Otani is not like the difficulty of getting certain pieces from here to move. But the difficulty in convincing the. convincing the angels to actually want said pieces in the first place. And yeah, the fact that he's, you know, it's half a season. He is a rental.
Starting point is 00:36:05 I would take him myself in a box. It makes him the best team in the National League, in my opinion. I would do that for you guys in the chat. Three bona fide starters. You have the best power hitter in the American League right now. I don't know winning your team. Like, I'd be pretty dope. I'm not going to lie.
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Starting point is 00:39:41 Well, let's talk about... We have a Corbin Carroll injury update. Everything checks out for now, but they're doing imaging tomorrow. It's being described as right shoulder discomfort. And, yeah, the strength and the stability of the shoulder was fine. Those are Tori Lavello's exact words. But yes, imaging is happening tomorrow. So I will sort of tap the brakes there and say that imaging is kind of the most important part of this process.
Starting point is 00:40:09 But good, obviously, so far, so good. I think it's about as good as you can hope for it. And as Jesse pointed out, they didn't have imaging done last. time so this might be just being a bit more precocious especially since they didn't have it and he's hurt himself again but uh let's keep our fingers crossed because we definitely need corbin carroll this team needs corby carroll you're gonna get you know you're something bad uh goldie a goldschman happens on twitter just reminded me of who the devouts play coming out of the all-star break and it's yeah oh yeah good it's pretty difficult the brays the reds at blue jays at reds or at blue jays at braves at reds and then home against c St. Louis in Seattle, then at San Francisco, at Minnesota, and then at home against the Los Angeles Dodgers, I assume. Yeah, it's pretty brutal. Brady Martin says they said all strength holds up in it for now,
Starting point is 00:40:57 but good for now until imaging. All right, well, let's go. There's, is there fireworks going on outside? It's a building collapsing. That would be so far out. The building coming down in the middle of the show would be my preferred way to go. Why not? In this situation?
Starting point is 00:41:12 Why not? Let's on this nightmare. The views would explode. It would go off. All right. Robbie, showing up late to the chat, Robbie. Yes, we did have word on who's starting Saturday. No word.
Starting point is 00:41:25 We don't know. We have no clue. We have story LaValo. We have word that we don't know. And the reason why is because, I don't know, I feel. We have word. We don't have word. We have word that there is no word.
Starting point is 00:41:37 No, the word is, again, I think I think Jesse's on to something when it comes to at least probably a call-up just because. It feels like, yeah, things would be maybe trending in that direction after today. I wouldn't say it's guaranteed. I mean, it's not like they've totally killed the bullpen the last few days. They've gotten some good length the last few days before this. But if I had to guess, that's sort of what I would say. But we really don't know yet. It is the 5th of July.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Why are we setting off fireworks outside? It's the 6th of July. It was 2 days ago. It was 2 days ago. What are we doing? I don't know. I know you probably can hear those fireworks going on somewhere. fireworks outside and it's not celebratory fireworks and chase field we know that for sure come on now let's
Starting point is 00:42:21 talk about something other than arizona diamond bags well we might still talk about them a little bit there's more fireworks going on irrationally pissed he's going to go out there and fight somebody right now that's setting off fireworks but uh the braves have set off some fireworks because they are once again at the top of our melb power rankings let's take a look at where everybody stacks up uh the diamond backs taking the biggest tumble there and i feel like we were being a pretty pretty honest with that one, right, Jesse? Did I really not have the Reds in the top 10 last week and now they're fifth? I didn't really fully know that I was doing that.
Starting point is 00:42:56 But hey, the Reds have been playing extremely well lately and that kind of feels fitting. They're 49 and 39, I believe after today, just continue to absolutely run over every single team they play. Have you ever seen a player like L.A. Dela Cruz like spark his team the way he has? I mean, it's not to say the rents were playing bad baseball, but their record since he has joined the club is insane. It's insane. Also, can I take a second to complain about David Martinez? Shut up. Ellie Dela Cruz is the most exciting part of professional baseball, not named Shio Otani right now.
Starting point is 00:43:30 If he wants to talk a little shit after you made him take a empty bat sensor cover off of his bat and then he hit a home run once it was put back on, let him talk shit. You made a fool yourself. That's all. No, that's fair. I haven't seen a bat checked in God. knows how long. Yeah. Like, my God.
Starting point is 00:43:46 I didn't even know that they, they did that sort of thing. But yeah, they definitely, I mean, if you're going to accuse me of cheating, find out that I didn't cheat, and then I still hit a home run off of you in the next,
Starting point is 00:43:59 yeah, I'm going to talk match. I'm going to look at you and I'm going to say something. I'm going to talk match. He started the war. Yeah. And then Ellie ended it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:06 100%. In a brutal, horrible, bloody murderous fashion. Can we, we should probably go through all of these. Yeah, let's do that. People on audio know what we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:44:17 So our power rankings for this week, I have the Atlanta Braves at number one, the Tampa Bay raise at two, Rangers three, Orioles four, Reds five, Marlins six, Astro 7, D-backs dropping from fifth to eighth this week, and then the Dodgers at number nine, and the Phillies at 10. I feel like we should just take a moment and recognize, like, how wild it is that the, the Rangers, the Orioles, the Reds, the Marlins, and the, and, and, And the Diamondbacks are all in the top eight. And we are more than halfway through the season at this point.
Starting point is 00:44:49 There have been a lot of unprecedented sorts of things that have happened this year. It's a fun season because of that, right? And I mean, especially with what the Diamondbacks are doing, the Diamondbacks are part of this, a part of this group of teams that shouldn't be doing what they're doing as early as they are. But who knows? I mean, the Diamondbacks have also, we've talked a lot about the Diamondbacks overachieving, right? And so there's going to be a lot of people. We've seen them tonight in the chat of being like, see, I told you this team was a 500 team.
Starting point is 00:45:20 See, I told you that, you know, like, yeah, the Diamondbacks definitely might come back down to Earth. We have kind of been saying it for months where we said, like, the Diamondbacks needed to take care of business during the part of the year when they could because their other, the other months, the other part of their schedule is stacked. And so far, that's all the Diamondbacks have really done. They've taken care of business during the time when their schedule was light and they were facing some opponents that weren't playoff contenders that weren't, you know, leading their division. Now that they are, now that they've faced quite a few of those teams, we've seen them falter. We've seen them not be able to pass that test of being able to beat the team so far like the Braves, you know, like the Phillies, things like that. So it's these are, that's still how far the Diamondbacks have to go. they could win a lot of games, but it still doesn't make them contenders for the championship.
Starting point is 00:46:13 That's what I keep, I've kept saying, like, and you're talking about a little bit earlier when we were talking about the deadline. Like, the reality is like what they've done over the last handful of games, over the last 12 games is just you would like to put. Like, it doesn't change anything for me. We knew what the problems were. We knew that they needed more pitching help. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Like, and that just became even more obvious, but like we knew what it was. And I had said even when they were playing well, like they clearly were not a content. They clearly were not the Braves or, I mean, the raise haven't even been as good as the raise were at the beginning of this season. But still, there's still the raise. But even they were vastly outperforming and what people thought that they were going to be this year. Like it's, this team, this team was always overperforming. Like this team was never going to take the leap from being, oh, maybe they're a playoff team to all of a sudden being a legitimate contender without making any real moves. Like they, they, they are going to have to make trades at the deadline.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Again, if they think that they can actually be a World Series contender, because otherwise, what are you doing? And that's what Thunderbolt asks. And Thunderbolt, we've glad we got you down a little bit, just trying to be a bit more productive with our comments and our discussion. And yes, so what is the team going to do to fix the issues? They've exposed the issues. We know, I mean, that's what, like you said, even the small issues they have have gotten, have become more exposed over the last few weeks, right? So really the answer for this team right now, which, I mean, they've hinted that they might still try to find some solutions within the organization is the trade deadline. And I mean, really, I feel like the tough position that they are in is now they are forced to make decisions that they weren't ready to make yet at this point.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Right. And we were just talking about this. They just raised the price of a bunch of potential or maybe you had completely taken off the market a bunch of potential trade targets and guys. that are on the Mets. Yeah. And so, like, they didn't make the problem any easier over this last weekend. No. And like you were saying earlier, it's going to be one of those things where it is,
Starting point is 00:48:10 I feel like it's going to be, we're just kind of waiting a lot until the last second, hoping that something happens because that's what's going to want to make that decision until the last second. Well, and really what's going to happen is people are, like, the sellers are going to try to take advantage of the teams trying to trade with them, right? They're going to ask for more. They're going to, you know, demand more in return. And then as we get closer to that deadline, that's when the sellers even have to start
Starting point is 00:48:32 saying like, well, shit, we need to get rid of some of these gaps. Yeah, if the Cubs don't have plans on training or signing Stroman to an extension, and they get to that last day of the deadline, they decide they're not trying to win. Like, they're not going to want to lose them for nothing. So, yeah, you have to imagine his price probably gets lower a little. I think there are, yeah, like any team, the vast majority of teams right now are going to say they don't know, right? Unless you're the Nats or you're the Rockies and it's just like really obvious what you should do. if you're a team like the Cubs or the White Sox or whatever,
Starting point is 00:49:02 you don't really have anything to gain from going out right now and saying like, oh, yeah, we're definitely going to sell. Because you want to, you know, you want to make it seem like teams have to really talk you into it, right? You want to make it so that teams feel the need to make their best offers in order to get these, you know, in order to get these pieces off your hand. So just from like a negotiation standpoint, it doesn't really make any sense for them to say anything other than what they're saying at this point. So I wouldn't read too much into that.
Starting point is 00:49:32 I do think it's important to note that we haven't really seen Mike Hazen in position to buy in a long time. And so for people saying like, oh, it's Mike Hazen, like he's not going to go out and do anything. This is what he always does. That's not really true. The Diamondbacks have only bought, they've only been in position to buy two years under Mike Hazen, 2017 and 2018. Of course, 2017 was the year that they brought in J.D. Martinez and probably one of the best deadline moves that any GM has ever made. And then in 2018, the Diamondbacks made several moves, nothing headliner quite to quite to that extent. But they made several moves in 2018 as well. So generally, I would say the Diamondbacks have been pretty aggressive under Mike Hazen when they've
Starting point is 00:50:16 been in this position. Yeah. And I mean, that's the big thing is we know for a fact that this team definitely wants to improve. Mike Hazen has not really shied away from his comments about being very, very aggressive, as he says, at the trade deadline. But he also walked those comments back a little bit because I'm feeling that some of his negotiations haven't been going the way that he thought they would. So he was basically like, well, things, the trademark is telling me. We still want to do stuff.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Jesse said this before. You could be as aggressive as you want. But if they're not going to give you a trade, like it takes two to tango. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely, that's what it is. And speaking of Jesse and tangoing and sending him in boxes places, Jesse's going to be in Seattle starting tomorrow. He's not even going to sleep tonight.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Is he going to tangle all the way to Seattle? Potentially. I was thinking he was going to tango in Seattle. You know, Jesse has a wild, like, you're going to learn this, but he doesn't tell us about his private life, but he has a wild private life that he refuses to fill me in. I will tell you that I have to be at the airport at 4.30 in the morning. I'm not really looking for a half.
Starting point is 00:51:22 to show until like 3.30, right? We're just going to keep doing. We're asking us not to end it because they need it. Cog says, don't leave us all. We're still grieving. We're still here with you. But of course, we'll be bringing you all sorts of all-star coverage while Jesse is in Seattle. Me and this guy will be back here tomorrow with postgame for that first game with the Pittsburgh Pirates. So make sure to join us back here. Then we will also be here Sunday for a special MLB draft episode, the Diamondbacks have that 12th pick in the 2023 MLB amateur draft.
Starting point is 00:51:53 So, of course, we will be here to cover that with you. We'll at least take you up to the Diamondbacks pick in the draft, and we'll try to get any, they might not even look. We're not going through number 35 or whatever. We're going around three, baby. We're going to haul away through competitive balance round two or whatever. You know, yeah. But of course, like I said, make sure to join us for all of that goodness.
Starting point is 00:52:14 And then next week during the All-Star game, We'll have a post game for the All-Star game. But for the most part, we're going to have a bunch of one o'clock shows next week, and we'll be talking about all of this stuff, including trade deadline moves the Diamondbacks might be making, as well as the fallout from the draft and see what the Arizona Diamondbacks, who the Arizona Diamondbacks were able to pick up. But in the meantime, you can check out, of course, our friends over at Four Peaks.
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Starting point is 00:54:06 to give. This sucks. I'm not. I'm a shell of my former self, and I will not be whole again until I get more updates on Corbyn Carroll and his health. But can we talk about how nice it is that we are complaining over them losing, like getting swept in a series? Like they just finally got swept in a series, got shot off for the first time.
Starting point is 00:54:26 They are the only team in baseball that has not been swept. The world is, it's over. The season's over. And I think we were two months past that point this time last year. Yeah. So I mean, we are, we are still two wins away from their season total for 2020. Right now, we're hoping we can hold on to the lead in the division. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:44 And not have to play a while. That's a great point. I think this weekend series is also big. Like if you respond and you win two out of three or something like that against the Pittsburgh Pirates, then I think you feel pretty decent about yourself. Like, okay, well, you know, you ran into a hot team in the New York Mets and they kind of ran over you. That sucks. But as you guys were just saying, I think it's the debacks and the raise. We're the only teams entering today who had not been swept.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Like even the Braves have been swept this season. and these kinds of things happen. But if you go out this weekend and you lose to the pirates, then it's like, all right. Oh, yeah. Take it to the All-Star break. Yeah, that would be a really rough way to finish the first half. So these next few days are going to be really important.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Zach Davies better. Yep. Zach Gallen better be Zach Gallin at home. But Davies has that last start before the All-Star game. And I just got sick to my stomach thinking about it. Galen needs to earn his MVP. I agree. I agree.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Show us. So the idea of maybe the first two games of that series not going our way, and then we have to rely on Zach Davies to send us in the All-Star break with good vibes. Does not make me feel good. Don't tell us you're the Cy Young. Show us, you're the Cy Young. You know what I mean? He needs to start doing that on the road.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Yeah. But he's shown us he's a sallyung at home. Yeah. You're right. Speaking of home and on the road, if you're going on a road trip, by the way, which are friends from the PHNX Suns podcast. They're heading out to Las Vegas this weekend.
Starting point is 00:56:10 And of course, they need to stop at Circle, K on their way. You need to stop at Circle K on your way. What are you so excited about? I think your raid might be over. Why? I think we might have new Circle K commercial gas pump commercials. Oh, wow. I heard as of this morning both Saul and I made appearances.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Yeah. So I think they might have cycled you and Leah out. You know what? So, or Derek stopped paying. Yeah, you used to give like a I can't pay Heidi Watney in the Chewbox and I can't pay Circle K and I can't bribe everybody. me in your mentions.
Starting point is 00:56:44 So let me know if you see me at a Circle K because I don't want to know if you see him. I do. Tweet at me and then tweet at both of us. No, I don't want to be a part of that. Don't tag me. Tag Derek.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Tag Derek in every single video that you see of me at Circle K. I'm sad. Like, if I not experienced enough sadness tonight, what are the fuck are we even doing here? Man, I hate this so much. Well, I mean, regardless, check out Circle K, by the way.
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