PHNX Arizona Diamondbacks Podcast - Diamondbacks get swept in three games by Dodgers in worse series loss of the season

Episode Date: August 31, 2023

In what could be considered the worst series loss of 2023, the Diamondbacks got mollywhopped by the Los Angeles Dodgers. We recap all of the ways the D-backs were inferior to their NL West rival, disc...uss where Luis Gonzalez lands on our PHNX Ranks list of the Top 25 Arizona athletes, and more!An ALLCITY Network ProductionSUBSCRIBE to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/phnx_youtubeALL THINGS PHNX: http://linktr.ee/phnxsports PHNX Events: Get your tickets to D-backs Takeovers, Knockout Nights & Suns Watch Parties at BetMGM, and MORE here: https://www.eventbrite.com/o/phnx-56002330273 WIN MONEY THROUGH SPLASH SPORTS: https://www.splashsports.com/phnx Head to https://factormeals.com/phnxdbacks50 and use code phnxdbacks50 to get 50% off.Go to https://saturdayneon.com and use code PHNX for 10% off your order today. Free shipping for orders over $200!Gametime: Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code PHNX for $20 off your first purchase.Pins & Aces: Check out https://pinsandaces.com and use code PHNX to receive 15% off your first order and get free shipping.Circle K: Text PHNX to 31310 to join the Circle K SMS subscriber club and get BOGO 32 oz Polar Pops! Head to https://www.circlek.com/store-locator to find Circle Ks near you!OGeez!: Score 25% off a bag of your favorite OGeez! Fruits of Creams. Go to https://theflowershopusa.com, add a bag of OGeez! to your cart, enter promo code “PHNX” and pickup at a local The Flower Shop dispensary.Four Peaks: Follow them on social @fourpeaksbrew & @fourpeakspub! Must be 21+. Enjoy responsibly. When you shop through links in the description, we may earn affiliate commissions. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:04 No, no, not good. Not good. This is not happy. What are we doing here? What are we? What? What do we do? Why does it say post series?
Starting point is 00:00:24 I don't. It's because the series is over. It's the three game drubbing that we just experienced at the hands of the Dodgers. Are you confused? Can I help you? Can I explain something? What? You're right?
Starting point is 00:00:36 What? Huh? They didn't. No. There's no. The DBX haven't played baseball for like three days, right? No, they really have it. They really have not played baseball for three days.
Starting point is 00:00:49 That is very true. That is very true. Welcome into the PHNX DBAX podcast right here on PHNX. My name is Derek Montia. And in less than 48 hours, I will once again be your mayor of PHNX. This man next to me. He doesn't need a sash. He's Mr. Electric all the time.
Starting point is 00:01:06 It's the one and only Sean DePaz. And you kind of broke him, Diamondbacks. You broke him with your offense. You broke him with everything that you did tonight. The Diamondbacks tonight suffered one of their worst losses. I think series losses, not just tonight, because that would be some sort of record to have a series loss on one night like this. But this three game series was arguably one of the worst losses of the year.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Damon brought up the Minnesota Twins series, which I would say was also a third. thorough ass kicking as well. The Mets series, yeah. But this one feels so much fucking worse. This one feels so much worse. The Diamondbacks offense scored one run over the final 23 innings of this series. Now, I don't need to do the math for you there, but the three-game series is 27 innings typically. So that's a lot of it that they spent not scoring runs.
Starting point is 00:02:00 But let's take a look at the numbers. don't really want to you don't want to i know you don't oh god but we're going to do it anyway this is the numbers for this series they don't deserve to have those numbers in purple damon yeah no can we like put the we they need to be in sand it needs to be in sand not even sidona red no make them like the the the exact shade of dark gray that the away those shitty away days were maybe even put them in the gradient pattern from a few years ago can we do that uh the diamond backs got out hits 20 to 38 in this series uh uh Dodgers played fairly flawless baseball there, the Diamondbacks, usually, and David
Starting point is 00:02:37 brought this up too. You know, usually when we're doing this graphic, win or lose, the Diamondbacks are usually the ones that are at least winning that battle of the errors. And in this case, nothing went right for the Diamondbacks in this series. And everything seemed to go right for the Dodgers. I mean, when it came to these hits falling in, when it came to everything going on in the series, like they just were flawless. But when you look at the pitching ERA, 2.81 for their starters,
Starting point is 00:03:03 0.00 for their relievers. It's pretty good. Yeah, I mean, Diamond Bass got their ass kicked. What else is the really to say? Dodgers were better in literally every single statistical category. And every possible way.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Every possible way, both tangible, intangible, they were cooler, they were more likable, they were sexier. They drove faster cars. This is the Corby Carroll. Yeah, the Corby Carroll defense.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Like, they were better in every single way. And I mean, I was kind of talking about this with Damon the other day. Like, I feel like baseball doesn't get talked about, like, in this, in this sense. But, like, it just kind of feels like there's three teams that are going to win World Series. Like, it doesn't really feel like, like, ah, like this is just, the Dodgers are just better than everybody. And it's like, oh, and also it's getting close to the playoffs. It's about time they start taking this seriously and picking everyone's ass.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Susie, I'm with you. I also hate the Dodgers. We also hate the Dodgers, but we love you. Susie, I also want to say, this is just for Susie. the pictures of the fish getting an MRI on your Instagram story is genuinely some of the funniest content I've ever seen in my entire life so follow Susie on Instagram but I need to see this I don't know if it's still on a story
Starting point is 00:04:15 don't pull it up right now we'll do it later so good it was in like a little sponge it was awesome it was awesome but uh me and Susie are going to go to WrestleMania in Philly next year by the way that when are we doing a show in a pool wow I don't know that she did a show in a pool She did a show in a pool. From her pool, yeah. You didn't see that the other day? From her pool?
Starting point is 00:04:34 Yeah. In what world, Susie? Does that, is that okay? I'm saying, win is ours. I don't know. I need to get that. I need to make that happen. We should do it from the pool at Chase Field at some point.
Starting point is 00:04:44 We need to do it. That's electric. Offseason show, I've never heard one. I mean, come on. Let's go. But let's talk, of course. I mean, one thing about that graphic is the pitching was horrible, but the starting pitch.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Be specific. Our starting. Our starting pitching was terrible. Their pitching was awful in this series. Starting pitching was just atrocious in the series. Brandon fought today had some pitches working for him early, but
Starting point is 00:05:11 things backed up on him quickly. He gives up four runs in the third, two more in the fourth. Much like Zach Gowan, much like Merrill Kelly, I mean, even a guy that comes into here playing good baseball, once again kind of reverts back to you know, kind of this lesser form of themselves
Starting point is 00:05:28 against the Dodgers. The D-back's starting pitching in this three-game series went 14 and a third, gave up 29 hits, 19 runs, 18 of them earned, eight walks, eight strikeouts. Brandon Fott's portion of it, four innings pitched, eight hits, six runs, five earn, two walks, four strikeouts. Just flat out bad. Flat out bad. Offense was bad, pitching was bad. I mean, and honestly, the relief pitching is probably the one place that we weren't absolutely
Starting point is 00:05:59 terrible but like thunderbolt said pathetic zero offense and really it was some pathetic offense like I said the offense scored one run over the final 23 innings of the series that's just inexcusable. They're always there. They're the forever
Starting point is 00:06:14 competitorable force. It's just like it's it's defeating. It just is like ah what are you going to do? It almost in a way it's almost like this is going to maybe an all time spin zone like it's almost encouraging in the sense that It's like, that's the Dodgers, dog.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Like, we were supposed to lose these games. Everything went wrong. Let's just, ah, let's just now we can get back to play real baseball. That's the Dodgers. Or at least meaningful games against teams that we have a chance against. Yeah, I don't know. It's like what you said, going back to the whole World Series concept or idea here, right? As much as, as much as we want to be the disruptor that comes in here and thinks that we can beat the Dodgers or beat the Braves.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Nothing about this series suggests that. That being said, are you are, I mean, I would say that right now, the Dodgers better than the, you're taking the Dodgers over the Braves right now? Right now, yeah, with the way they've been playing in August and the way that this is spilling over in September. So like, this is historically good the way they are right now. Yeah. So like, you got, you're going to have to beat this team if you want to accomplish anything. Oh, not necessarily. Not necessarily.
Starting point is 00:07:23 This team needs to get beat. But I mean, if the Diamondbacks are able to make it pass the wildcard round, then chances are. What I was going to say, though, is the Braves are a very good team. Like, and we've seen the DeBass compete against them. Like, this was just, you know, maybe this was just bad, bad timing. They own us. They do own us. I mean, what are we supposed to do, dog?
Starting point is 00:07:42 It's the Los Angeles Dodgers. They'll be in us every time. Like, the Braves, there's no, like, there's no mental thing that's going on with a brave series. I said yesterday. What did I say yesterday? I was like, if we win one game out of the three, it feels like we won the series. My best friend of the Mos Schubert said the D-Backs have now lost 36 of their last 42 games at Dodger Stadium.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Ouchy. I mean, it's literally like they go in there and it is. It's like their version of Yankee Stadium for the AL East back in the day and I know you hate that reference but you know what I mean? I don't know you're talking about. Where it is a like a situation where somehow just playing in that stadium
Starting point is 00:08:17 is intimidating to the other teams. Like I said, no, from a few years ago, from years ago. From three 2000? No. Oh, come on. 2012 Fenway? You might not yeah. Well, that too. Yeah, there you go. You can have that one. I'll let you have that one.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Regardless, the Diamondbacks right now are not very good against the Dodgers. And I think that kind of goes into the larger point of, you know, the playoffs are anybody, anybody's game, right, once you get there. Yeah. And it depends on how things fall. Unless it's the Diamondbacks playing at Dodgers Stadium, then it is the Dodgers game. Correct, right? But I'm just saying, like the Phillies last year, again, they are that. We could get lucky and not have to play them.
Starting point is 00:08:55 You just get lucky. You just have the right, like, right. things fall in the play in a certain way. It almost feels like you could have a team that's not the Los Angeles Dodgers have the nine greatest baseball players of all time. And you would rather play that team than play the Los Angeles Dodgers in the postseason.
Starting point is 00:09:13 I mean, so why don't we walk Freddie Freeman? That's the best strategy. I mean, doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. They're all going to do. Miguel Rojas doesn't hit nine times in the lineup. Because then Jason Hayward who's going to be. He's piss on it.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Like he did. All the time's the series. All of a sudden, he's who he was, like, supposed to be when he was coming up as a prospect. All of them. Every single player is better than they were on their last team. Find me a player that's gotten worse since they got to Los Angeles. Mookie Betts was like the best player in baseball.
Starting point is 00:09:44 And he somehow got better on the Los Angeles Dodgers. Fucking, Freddie Freeman was one of the best first baseball. And he somehow got better when he got to the Los Angeles. It makes Clayton Kershaw's 80 years old. And for the first half of the season, he was a silent candidate. What is,
Starting point is 00:09:58 going on? I put on a Dodger Jersey one time and I was better. Like just for that like really short period of time. I lost weight. Have you ever put on a lot of Dodgers jersey? Never. I never will but I bet you it would make me like super handsome and like have like so much
Starting point is 00:10:14 Riz. Yeah. It's it's crazy. You'd be like a great, you'd just be a better person. I found, I told you guys, I found the first photo of my first baseball game and it was at Dodgers team. It made me sick. Made me sick to see the photo. Made me sick. But anyway, Speaking of things that make people sick,
Starting point is 00:10:31 Home Blade umpire Alex Tosi makes Christian Walker sick. In fact, Christian Walker might still be staring at Alex Tosi right now, who absolutely sucked tonight. I mean, let's be honest. This man, uh, he called one of the most inconsistent strike sounds. It was infuriating because again, I try to always tell people about that deceptive ass bumper that they show on game day
Starting point is 00:10:52 that if the ball does land there, it can be a strike or a ball. And they're not really going to like charge the umpire. with making a bad call, but his inconsistency tonight was just absurd when it came to the calls that Brandon fought wasn't getting. I want to fight him. Yeah, as do I. The Dodgers were getting.
Starting point is 00:11:10 I want to fight them. No, I'm ready to fight them. I hate him. And look, they don't even want to fight you for the big Ben Ford Bronco SUV. They just want to fight you just because you need to get your asking. Just because you kind of deserve it. I mean, yeah, I've said this before. Your strike zone can be literally whatever it wants.
Starting point is 00:11:25 It could be the entire stadium. But as long as it's consistent, I don't give a shit. For both teams and for the entire, for the entire night. Yeah, and it just simply was not that. I mean, it started early when, you know, Lord just kind of got screwed when you tried to call time. And it just simply was not granted for some reason. That was so odd. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:44 I don't know. I just kind of had to stay there. Yeah. And then obviously, Christian Walker had multiple run-ins with the home plate umpire. And that's bullshit. Like, it's, it's, and it's been a thing all year, man. And I'm not going to say here in Mifton there's some giant conspiracy against the Arizona Diamondbacks. I just think obviously.
Starting point is 00:12:02 I think, yeah, obviously we're going to notice more when it's against the D-backs, not for the D-Backs, right? But I think by and large, umpiring just has been bad in major league baseball this year. But we still notice. We still notice when it's in the Diamondbacks favor as well. Oh, no, we do. I just don't stick with us. Yeah, you're not going to be hearing us complain about it here in the show. Yeah, and Thunderbolt is complaining.
Starting point is 00:12:22 And this is something that Damon was getting on about and I am right behind him on. someone mr walker needed to get his ass toss in that situation light a fire under this fucking team I mean or go out there Tori defend your fucking player
Starting point is 00:12:34 and get your ass toss somebody do something this game was the equivalent to having Jose Herrera come in and throw at one point this game was the equivalent of replacing christia walker at first base in the middle
Starting point is 00:12:44 of a Dodgers series at Dodgers stadium like you dot like christia walker needs to play every inning of every game in this series unless unless he gets thrown out the game was over he needed to be thrown out
Starting point is 00:12:55 nothing. Get your ass toss and try and get something going. It was frankly hilarious. The man did not stop barking at the umpire even when he was out on defense at first base. I will say in between innings. It was impressive. Yeah, Christian Walker definitely could have gotten animated
Starting point is 00:13:10 if he wanted to, but he definitely wasn't quiet. Like, yeah, I had said, I wouldn't have been mad if he had gotten tossed. Like, I think he did, he probably did enough to get to get tossed, but. Carlos says, I just,
Starting point is 00:13:25 just wanted to get called both ways, man. Fought was getting squeezed, and that's absolutely the case. And not only that, but, like, it's just odd to me because why do you need to give the Dodgers anymore of an advantage, right? It's not why they lost the game at all. It's absolutely not. No, it's absolutely. That's a good point. Regardless, like... The Diamondbacks weren't able to do anything even with a wider strike.
Starting point is 00:13:44 And also, not to, like, sit on the fence here and say it is why they lost the game, but you also just like, you don't know, right? You don't know how fit, like the butterfly effect. if Lordus has a real at bat and this first at bat, how that potentially changes the entire game. It's the little thing. You just want the calls made. Yeah, well, like the Merrill Kelly first inning yesterday, right? I mean, that he just got in the first base, you know, before Max Muncie.
Starting point is 00:14:07 We would have been, that game might have been completely different than what it ended up being. So you just want the calls to be made not even correctly, just consistently. Yeah. And that's why we need robot bumps, because even if they're not right, they'll be consistent. At least the ABS, the good old challenge system. But regardless, the. And the other than back's offense couldn't muster shit up. And that's really what it comes down to.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Do you think major league umpires, egos can take challenges? Because I feel like if you got batters and pitchers, just fucking doing this all the time and ringing them up because they're stuck at their jobs and are wrong all the goddamn time. They're going to be super egotistical about it and try it's like try and squeeze you even more. I mean, I get what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:14:46 I hate MLV. There's a lot of human emotion in that. It's the reason why I don't know if the ABS system will work. But I do feel like at the end of the. the day it's a lot more fun and at least a lot more acceptable I agree than going purely to a robot um and I can't wait to see major league dugouts like cheering and erupting over like a call being overturned it's gonna be like tennis it's awesome yeah um Tommy fam I mean speaking of guys we needed to to get tossed out of the game I mean I thought we brought Tommy fucking tossed out of the game
Starting point is 00:15:17 you get arrested home boy yeah I thought that's what we brought him here I want to find out that you have been put in cuffs. I just want to see him spend an entire at bat staring at Alex Tosi just trying to intimidate him. Yeah. I would like to see him go taking a bat without a bat and just stare at the pitcher.
Starting point is 00:15:33 He did get a hit in this one, by the way, and now he's hit safely in 18 of his last 20 games as a Diamondback. So, again, not a lot of guys on the team we're doing it for this, for the Diamondbacks right now, but Tommy Pham has been consistently doing it. Speaking of another guy that's been
Starting point is 00:15:50 consistently doing it, it's our guy that is our King Snake tonight. Now, maybe now then and forever. It's one and over, one and only Corbyn Carroll, making that, look at that catch. Look at that catch. The ones is full extension. I mean, obviously this game did not go well,
Starting point is 00:16:06 but in this moment I was like, oh, this is not going to go well. Yeah. Like I thought at that moment it was like, oh boy. And it did. Here we go. It wasn't here we go. Just it took a little longer to get there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:17 But yeah, man, Corbin's really good at baseball. And I, you know, I think, I think some of us maybe got a little scared there during the, the, his, his dark times. Yeah, during his dark days. There was some, there was maybe some talk about him maybe not being a generational talent. I think it was just an idea that got tossed around a little bit, but. By one person on this podcast, and we don't really need to go into who that was. Oh, we don't, but it's, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:16:41 It absolutely was not me. No, it was not you? Was it? No, definitely not. I'm pretty sure it was this guy next to me. No, I'm not implying anybody or anything. It's fine. We don't need to incriminate.
Starting point is 00:16:51 anybody but last 10 games let's go with these numbers hitting 417 with two doubles two triples two homers and six rbi he also has five walks uh corbin is back and again talking about not everybody can do it but uh we definitely need corbin because he is such a big part of this team that they aren't going to be able to do much without him uh we will talk about where we go from here and we will have jesse friedman joining us from dodger stadium in los angeles uh but we wanted to Thank you guys, of course, for being here in the PHNX Sports YouTube channel. If you haven't subscribed to the channel yet, do so now. Sign up for notifications.
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Starting point is 00:20:11 Visit bettMGM-M-M-GOR. U.S. promotional offers not available in D.C., New York or Ontario. Well, we are continuing our weekly, our breakdown this week of our PHNX ranks of the top 25 athletes for Arizona sports. And of course, there are still some more Arizona Diamondbacks on this list to be discussed. We broke down 15 through 11, I believe, is where we're up to now. And of course, coming in at number 11 on our list is the one and only, Gonso. Luis Gonzalez, Godzales, if you will. years in Arizona.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Look at those eight seasons here. Fucking biceps, dog. I mean, he was incredible. That's, that season. That's just pure, clean man. And he never would have done anything to make those biceps bigger. Not at all, not at all. But he does have the most hits in Daback's history.
Starting point is 00:21:04 2001 Silver Slugger, of course. The big thing is he had the hit TM. Do we call him? Yes. The hit TM. The hit TM. That won the World Series. So that instantly boost him up this list.
Starting point is 00:21:15 I know that there's a lot of people that tend to like act like Gonzo just had one. Yeah, like one moment. Yeah. One hit. And that's absolutely crazy to me. And the reason why is because it's just not true. It's just not true. When you compare his stats to what many would consider to be the greatest offensive player in Arizona Diamondbacks history, you could say they're a bit comparable.
Starting point is 00:21:44 So, of course, when I say that, I'm talking about Paul Goldschmidt. We talked about Goldschmidt being on this list as well. Goldschmidt slashed in his career with the Arizona Diamondbacks, 297, 398, 532, with a 930 OPS in eight seasons with the Diamondbacks. Gonzo, 298, 391, 529. Almost identical numbers. So here, I'll give you Goldies again. Goldies, 297, 398, 532, Gonzo, 298, 391, 529.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Gonson's a point better in batting average. Seven points worse in O.B.P. Four points worse. Three points worse. In sluggings percentage. 9.30 OPS for Goli. 11 worse than that OPS. 919 OPS for Gonson.
Starting point is 00:22:30 So, I mean, nearly identical. Literally identical numbers. One has the hit TM. Yeah. And one has a fucking ring. Well, and here's the thing. He played, like, this is wild to me now in today's day and age, is that he played all 162 games.
Starting point is 00:22:44 games for the Arizona Diamondbacks in both the 2000 season and the 2001 season. That is crazy. I wonder, were there any? All 162 games. Were there any good outfielders playing baseball around that time? Just in the league? Yeah. Not one as good as Gonzo.
Starting point is 00:23:04 No, what I'm saying is, is there were Barry Bond, Sammy Sosa. Like there were guys in the league. So like, he's just not getting, he didn't get. In that era, probably the love he deserved because there were... He absolutely got overshadowed that season. He had 57 fucking home runs that season. He absolutely got overshadowed. And he was on a World Series team with two of the greatest pictures of all time.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Right. Oh, yeah, Moe making a great point. That hit was also off the greatest closer of all time. Yeah, exactly. So there's that too. Yeah, no shit. But here's his 2001 season numbers alone. 325, 429, 688 with a 1.17 OPS and 57 home runs.
Starting point is 00:23:44 the fuck out of here. Yeah. Like you said, literally any other season, you're the MVP, except during that stretch. Yeah, during that era.
Starting point is 00:23:53 During that era, during that five-year. He was also the only clean player at that time, too. It's unreal. Yeah, I mean, Mo said that they didn't test
Starting point is 00:24:01 for steroids back then, and I don't know why that's relevant considering he would have never, ever done something like that. Unlike all the other players at a time. Unlike all the Dodgers. The Donobbacks were clean. That was a stalemax were a stand-up franchise.
Starting point is 00:24:13 They would never do something like that I'm like the rest of the MLB. I was alive and rooting for these players during this time. I wasn't small children like you guys and all I can say is, did they violate a rule? Show me where they did. If not fuck off with all of that. Right?
Starting point is 00:24:29 Right? No? Plus we won. Get them out of here. Cry about it. Cry about it. One of my favorite quotes of all time is from Jose Canenko and he was talking about how he could have a twin brother
Starting point is 00:24:41 who was, you know, genetically the exact same as him and he could take all the same steroids and he would not be a professional baseball player because playing baseball is still that fucking hard. Yeah, I mean, it doesn't fucking matter. Legalized steroids.
Starting point is 00:24:56 It's, uh, oh, I mean, a lot of it has to do with the fact, like, let's, let's be honest. Like, uh, playing two seasons consecutively of 162 games is not easy. No, especially when you're clean. That's not an easy thing to do, right?
Starting point is 00:25:10 So it's, uh, again, it's, it's, It's, I just couldn't live with a lie like that my entire life. Like, that's one thing that is crazy about players from this era. And I, I am not directly implying that Gonzo took steroids. I, but you could say, let's just say the other players that, let's just say. It's just, it's just, it's crazy, man. Like, the steroid era is something that's different, bro.
Starting point is 00:25:38 It's what, you know what it is? What it really is, it's, it's the culmination of baseball. not having any kind of drug testing system or any kind of rules or anything, you know, in regards to it, right? Like, it's like you can go on some sort of weird arbitrary honor system, but that's kind of a joke in any industry, I think. Like, I mean, and unfortunately, that's the way things go, but it doesn't matter. Could you imagine being clean, though, at a time like that?
Starting point is 00:26:08 Like, like, I can't imagine walking into a clubhouse and seeing literally every one of your teammates and opponents juicing up and being like, I've got morals. Yeah, they'd be like, look at this, nark. Yeah, a fucking fed. And then once the list come out, you're like, ah, huh? Where do they get this info from, huh? Well, and I mean, a lot of it had to do with changes that MLB made around that time, but a lot of it was due to that period of time.
Starting point is 00:26:32 I mean, you had people starting to ask really, like, obvious questions about what was going off with the fact that these guys were able to hit 100 home runs. I didn't mean to turn this conversation about God's over a steroid conversation. He deserves flowers in his own right. Yeah. I mean, he has what. He didn't do it. Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:26:54 That's why I didn't mean to turn it into a steroid conversation. He has the most iconic moment in the history of Valley Sports. But it's relevant because what you're, what you are saying is, I mean, just in regards to people that had achievements during that era that are impressive and comparatively to modern day baseball and modern day numbers, they're not. numbers are crazy. But back then, they were like the sixth best hitter in baseball or the fourth best hitter in baseball. One of two things are true. Either Gonzo was on steroids and still was one of the best players in all of baseball or he wasn't on steroids and he's one of the greatest players of all
Starting point is 00:27:25 time. Yeah. Like there's two two, there's one of two things are true there. So like, I mean, all I'll say is without him, we as a entire like state would be nothing. And that's the biggest thing is what's the quantifiable impact of winning a city? their only major championship, right? Like, there's the only thing that there might be an argument case to be made for some of the guys that Gonzo is above that maybe, yeah, maybe their numbers in their career might have been better in their respective sport or maybe their numbers might. Or I mean, you can even have the Gonzo-Chilling conversation if you want to.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Right. I mean, it's, yeah, it's weird. It's, it's, it's a character thing. I mean, you know, again, with, with Gonzo, there's nothing about his character there, but there might be things that you dislike. You know what I mean? Like, I was a. a huge fan of his endorsement of
Starting point is 00:28:12 Carrie Lake for instance. But that like just because of your piece of shit like Kurtzschey. Yeah he's not out here saying terrible things that also make me like you know disappointed in him and is. But like it's they're different people right. Again just because
Starting point is 00:28:27 your your political views might align with someone else doesn't mean your moral views align with someone else. Yeah the point right like there is there is there is not just about like they believe something different than I do. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:42 There's certainly a line there. There's plenty. Especially, this is fucking baseball, dude. I'm not going to sit here and pretend that everybody in this league, league full of fucking Midwestern white guys, have the same political views as me.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Like, I'm not, I'm not going that. That's exactly. But there's a difference between having different political views and being a complete piece of shit. Well,
Starting point is 00:29:03 yeah. And I mean literally attacking a group of people, you know, like, like, you know, being anti-transgenital. gender anti-Muslim and some of the things that Schilling's been but that's whatever it doesn't
Starting point is 00:29:14 matter uh goldie's not higher goldie is not higher 17 17 yeah yeah yeah um gonzow is higher are you asking why goldie is lower on the i think you might mean me like a higher number um and that's what i was what what we were trying to talk about yeah gonzow is higher because their numbers are extremely comparable and but really at the end of the day it's the quantifiable impact of winning a city. Yeah. Their only major championship. We would be losers without him.
Starting point is 00:29:45 It is the ultimate tiebreaker. Like, if you have the same stats, the one difference is, oh, which one has a ring? That only has a ring, but he has the hit TM to get that ring. Like, it's the hit TM. Yeah. Like, I get it. I'd rather have the hit than the fucking World Series MVP. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:03 That's more important to me. Yeah, because that hit is timeless. But Gonzo, I will say, is. is still just, on a personal note, a really, like, stand-up dude. Like, yeah, he's so nice. There's something about Gonzo still being a part of this team and just everything. Like, even that Sanderson commercial is hilarious to us. It's not because of him.
Starting point is 00:30:30 It's almost funny again. Hey, Gonzo, your V-backs have been real good recently. No, they have it. Mr. Sanderson Ford, dude. Not series, but. But Benjamin Hunley said Womack had a better hit that inning than Gonzo. Did he though? But it wasn't the one who the game.
Starting point is 00:30:46 It wasn't the one the World the World Series. I get what you're saying, though. And there's a lot of importance in that series. But Gonzo, again, was a big reason why they got there. And again, his numbers that year, 325, 429, 688, 1.117 OPS, 57 home runs. He is good. And Zyfer, I agree with you. He says, oh, he's great when Gonzo joins the booth.
Starting point is 00:31:08 I like what I like he's a guy A person that I think is good He's like he's a good person to have as a part of the organization too And I think again as we kind of talked about For a very different reason with the Kurtzilling thing like It's very difficult to really kind of get everyone to be approaching Setting up this ranking in the same way right? So like it's hard to know how people are gonna measure the impact he has
Starting point is 00:31:29 And he His impact is massive like he continues to have an impact that he's one of those good I love RJ but RJ is not not like he's not present as in the way that like gonzo is like gonzo in so many ways is like the face of the organization yeah um and so like that's important for organizations to have yeah um and so yeah it is awesome like his impact even past his after his playing days i think is notable um and if even if he didn't have a ring i think would give him the edge over a guy like paul alternate um best player in debacks history other than randy
Starting point is 00:32:08 probably probably you think he's better than Kurt Schilling I mean honestly that's a great that that's that's a great discussion you had and I still think your point was the best point you said it beforehand you said it on the show yesterday really what it comes down to is if you're actually basing Kurt Schilling on his performance he should be much higher on this list if you're basing it on him as a human being and some of the things that you might disagree with that he said he doesn't deserve to be on this list at all but the weird kind of like trade off of him being like 20 does seem kind of weird or wherever he was at was in 20 21 I think something like that but like yeah I mean that that just seems kind of like a compromise based on his performance and its character Kurt Schilling is a better player overall but as a diamond back it's easy to say that Gonzo was a better diamond back he played had a much longer career with the diamond backs and yeah I think it was more sustained with the debacks so I think it's fair to put him above Schilling on the overall list. Maria says, guys, how do you feel about Urius?
Starting point is 00:33:11 Well, he's been very good against the Arizona Diamondbacks. And now that, she says he's a Boris client. He's definitely not signing with the Dodgers next year. That's because they will be signing Shohei Otani, I imagine. Do you guys think the D-backs would throw him an offer? No, I don't. I don't think the Diamondbacks can afford to throw anybody a high-price offer. And Julio, Urius, it's kind of like what I was feeling about.
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Starting point is 00:35:56 Yeah, the Dodgers are stealing signs. We can get it. We can get it. I cut you off there. I'm sorry. No, that's fine. That's fine. I'll tell you, after seeing Brent Strong be so confident about that with Ryan Nelson,
Starting point is 00:36:05 tipping his pitches, I would not be surprised about that. And honestly, I still don't know how to feel about stealing signs. Like, unless you're using cameras or on some sort of advanced technology.
Starting point is 00:36:16 They've got cameras inside of film. Yeah, well, I don't know. That would explain why we lose all the time in Dodgers Stadium. There has to be something going on, right? Yeah. It has to be,
Starting point is 00:36:27 Lance Lynn has a sub-fucking 2ERA. Get the fuck out of here. Get out of here, bro. What do you guys hide? They've got. What do you have to hide out there? Secret serum or something. Yeah, they have the Super Soldiers
Starting point is 00:36:37 CIR. Yeah. Yeah. So sure. Oh, man, I'm fired up now. I was ready just to let this series slide, but I want a full-on investigation into this. The way they investigated that NBA refs burner account and then made them retire. They forced them into retirement. Yeah, yeah, that's what I want.
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Starting point is 00:37:48 No, no. Oh, the Dodgers. No, yeah, the Dodgers, and then they got buzzers in their pants. You never have to, because that's the one thing I'll say about, about, like, the buzzer thing with the Astros, there's no way they're that stupid. There's no way you're putting a buzzer on and then ever taking a, like ripping at somebody else.
Starting point is 00:38:06 else's jersey off in that situation. But you're never got to worry about your pants coming off in a baseball game with the buzzes in your pants. Yeah. No, that's pretty fair. That's pretty fair. They got to be doing something done.
Starting point is 00:38:16 And I don't like this, but, uh, Maria, oh, Maria, we don't want to lose you. We are just joking, Maria. Please don't go away. But, uh, I do want to take a look. Maria, don't take a damn thing I say seriously ever. If you ever get hurt by something I say, the joke is entirely on you. It's, it's somehow how he gets away with it. He can't keep getting away with it, but it's how he gets.
Starting point is 00:38:36 gets away with it. Do I think the Dodgers are cheating? Nothing is, he says it says it's serious. Of course I don't think the Dodgers are cheating, Maria. Wink. I don't think they're cheating at all. Oh, don't do that. I would never recuse an MLB team of cheating
Starting point is 00:38:48 without any credible evidence. I would never do something like that. Now that the Dodgers series has passed, things don't get too much better for the Diamondbacks because they run into probably the other best team right now in baseball in the Baltimore Orioles. It absolutely can get worse. Let's take a look at the Probables for that series with the Orioles
Starting point is 00:39:05 because, yeah, not great with Zach Davies and Slate Zacconi. Chaconi, I forgot. We're going with Chaconi now. Chaconi Slate Chikoni going in game two. Zat Gowne going in game three. At least it's at home. So we have that against Jack Flaherty. Why don't I kind of almost feel good about this?
Starting point is 00:39:24 Because starting pitching for the Baltimore Orioles, it doesn't look too great. And we know that Zach Davies somehow is a wild card. Sometimes good. She's sometimes good for this team. Every once in a while, it turns in a good hour. And then, yeah, I mean, I'm not betting on a year fool to bet on two straight bads at Galen outings. So, yeah, I mean, I think the big question mark is, I mean, the big question mark is always Zach Davies. But obviously Slade is just newer here.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Yeah. And how much do does the Davies and Saccone starts close both turn into essentially perhaps maybe like a bullpen start or like a four inning, five inning game? Right now we know the bullpen has been fairly taxed by this series against the Dodgers. Luckily, they do have an off day time. tomorrow before starting this series on Friday. And honestly, hey, I'm with Kyle. I'm not disrespecting Slate at all. No disrespect to Slate at all.
Starting point is 00:40:13 No disrespect. Slate has been a welcome addition to this team. You're not going to find me disrespecting really outside of Zach Davies. Anybody on this, this pitching, starting pitching staff at this point. Like, they've all been good, more or less. And the ones that have been bad are the guys that are good. Like, your bad start. You got your bad Galen and Merrill start.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Like, I'm never going to be worried about them unless that becomes the regular. Right. And the wildest thing about this series lost to the Dodgers really is the fact that the starting pitching was the key in that last series went over the Reds. And their starting pitching was so phenomenal. And then you get the starting pitching in this series against the Dodgers. It's atrocious. And it lines up in the way that you would want it to line up against the Dodgers. You got Zach Allen, Merrill Kelly, and Brandon fought.
Starting point is 00:40:57 You couldn't have asked for a better trio as far as, you know, who you wanted to face the Dodgers. and it just, it went completely differently. I mean, honestly, I'm not going to entertain any ideas about like sign stealing or, you know, pitch tipping or anything. But I will say that if that were to come out tomorrow, it would not surprise me in the least with the way these three games have gone. Oh, I mean, no, it would certainly. Because it fucking felt like the Dodgers knew what was coming on every bitch. That would feel, that would feel great. It would be vindicated.
Starting point is 00:41:31 By no means, do I? think really they are cheating. I have no reason to actually believe that if I actually thought that it would just be because I'm a writer. Right. But like, oh boy, would I love it if they were? Would I love it? Oh, my, I would relish it.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Oh, thank God for an explanation. But the worst part is they'd still win the World Series of them and Major League Basehold wouldn't do anything about it. Yeah, that's true. The Diamondbacks do have, again, very little reprieve, but they do have a little bit after this Baltimore Oriole series. They have three with the Rockies. No offense to you, Susie, tip of the cap.
Starting point is 00:42:05 And then they travel to Wrigley Field for four with the Cubs. And then they go to New York for four with the Mets. So, I mean, it's like, yeah, they have a series with the Rockies left. They have a series with the poverty franchise known as the Yankees and the White Sox, right? But outside of that, it feels like every series left is going to be difficult and is going to be important. You know, I mean, maybe the Mets give up by that time they have that four-game series. and it goes much differently than it went last time. Are there any good pinstripe teams in baseball right now?
Starting point is 00:42:37 I don't. I mean, the Phillies. Phillies? Phillies were pinstripes? Yeah, they do. And then twins were? The Cubs? Cubs.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Cubs. Cubs. I was just thinking I was saying like, Fills, Yankees, Padres all suck. Yep. And the twins wear stripes sometimes, don't that? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:59 John in the chat says exactly what I tried to echo earlier. with you john he said sign stealing is perfectly legit that's it's true yeah as long as you're not as long as you're not using any kind of technology like if they're tipping those is yeah yeah absolutely like just i i understand why people get mad about it but at the same time it's like don't uh go go back up to mo's comment really fat moe said devac should start playing with roof open all the time to create a field advantage sure some players and fans may die of heat exhaustion but that home field advantage would be awesome hell yeah mo that's why we play hell yeah that's why the sunday devils play outside and that's why the bills aren't putting a roof on their new stadium.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Because we play for rings in the desert. That's what we do. Well, speaking of rings in the desert, Jesse Friedman, our own champion reporter is here joining us. Jesse, I imagine the mood isn't great after the Diamondbacks absolutely got just slaughtered in this series against the Dodgers. Yeah, I think I think slaughtered is is the right word. I think, right, the Diamondbacks in that Monday game.
Starting point is 00:44:02 They take a four three lead in the top of the fourth inning. And after that, the Dodgers scored four runs that were unanswered the rest of the way in that game. They, of course, won yesterday's game by a final score of 9 to 1 and then 7-0 here today. You got all that up. I think it's 20 to 1 that the Diamondbacks were outscored after the fourth inning in Monday's game. It was brutal. I mean, it was an absolutely uncompetitive series, frankly, between these two teams. and yeah, you're right,
Starting point is 00:44:34 that the mood was not particularly, was not particularly great in the clubhouse just now. We spoke with Brandon Faud about his outing. We spoke with Christian Walker as well about the Diamondbacks hitting efforts in this series. And Walker in particular, you could just tell, was just very much not happy with the way that the Diamondbacks played in this series.
Starting point is 00:44:56 He seemed pretty fired up about just the way that things transpired here and said, you know, the focus was the focus was there and the Dodgers are the Dodgers are a good team but also the diamond backs have to be better. Was he, was he upset about how the team was playing or upset because he was having, it was beefing with home plate umpire? Was he still looking for Alex Tosie?
Starting point is 00:45:19 We didn't talk to him about any, any calls in particular, but I imagine that might have played a, that might have played a role in his mood on some level. I mean, I probably would have for me if I were in his shoes. But yeah, this was this was about as bad of an outcome, frankly, as you could have had in this series. And as we talked about yesterday, you didn't need to come in here and sweep the Dodgers or even take two out of three necessarily.
Starting point is 00:45:43 But you would have liked to win one game in this series. You would have like to even just have these games be closer, be more competitive. This is the kind of series that, you know, you have to wonder, does this make the Diamondbacks look in the mirror and suddenly think that maybe they're not all that they thought they were, right? after going on the run that they went through and bouncing back the way that they did, this is the kind of series that sort of puts you in your place. And they don't have to beat the Dodgers. They don't have to have a better record than the Dodgers
Starting point is 00:46:12 to just make it to the playoffs. But it is a bit of a reality check of where they stand in relation to some of the best teams in the league. The Diamondbacks may have lost the battle, but Jesse, will they win the waiver wire war when it comes to perhaps getting some reinforcements from some of these other teams that are just completely having,
Starting point is 00:46:31 I don't even want to call it a fire sale. It's just like abandoning ship. Hunter Renfro is just hitting out of his mind right now. I'd love to have him on this team right now. They've had multiple guys hit home runs since they got placed on waivers. It's crazy what's going on over there in Los Angeles. But not just those players from the Angels. There's a lot of quality players that are going to be available on Thursday.
Starting point is 00:46:51 So I know you have a new piece coming to go phnx.com about who makes the most sense for the debacks. Maybe you could fill us in a little bit on who they might target or at least who it might make sense to target. Yeah, so first of all, the order of things, that's a really big factor here. As we talked about in yesterday's show, it is primarily determined by record. It's in reverse order of record. So for any particular player, Lucas Gialito, whoever you want to highlight, of all the teams that place a claim on that player, it's going to be the team with the worst record that gets the player. The thing that is still a little bit unclear at this point, at least for me personally, I haven't been able to confirm this, is what happens. in the event of a tie, most outlets seem to say that it simply goes back to your record last
Starting point is 00:47:39 season, in which case, the reason I bring this up is the Diamondbacks have the same record as both the Boston Red Sox and the Minnesota Twins, two teams who are also contending, or at least in the mix enough, where they would be, the twins are leading their division. They're certainly contending. The Red Sox, I guess, are maybe close enough at this point to where they could be interested in adding some of these players. But yeah, the debacks have the exact same record as those teams. And if indeed the tiebreaker is simply look at last year's record and compare there,
Starting point is 00:48:10 the Diamondbacks had a worse record than both of those teams and would have waiver priority over both of them. But what MLB trade rumors has said on this topic is that it depends on the league. So if the Diamondbacks were trying to claim a player from the American League, the AL teams would actually take priority in that situation. And record would be, record would sort of just factor in as kind of setting that up because those three teams have the same record. It's a confusing situation, all that to say. But what MLB trade rumors has said is if three teams, if any teams have the same record, it depends on the league, which teams would have priorities. So still working to see if we can see if we can find an answer there.
Starting point is 00:49:01 But we do know the Diamondbacks, you know, they fell below the Giants in the standings with this loss. So they will have waiver priority over the Giants for sure. But they do not against the Reds and the Miami Marlins. And of course, the one thing here is that the teams that aren't in contention aren't going to really make any of these moves. And the teams that are contention can't necessarily scoop up all the players. Well, they can, but they're most likely not going to. So realistically, it might come down to players available that, another team with a higher waiver priority pickup.
Starting point is 00:49:35 But, I mean, who else do you see being on the Diamondbacks radar? And I ask you this because I want to know how awkward inevitable Bob Brenley, Mike Clevenger meeting in the clubhouse is going to possibly be. Yeah, that is, that is a factor here for sure. So, yeah, I just wrote a story about this. It is on our website right now. You can check it out. but I'll go ahead and lay out the names, the names that I talked about there.
Starting point is 00:50:04 There are five guys that are on waivers that I think make sense on some level for the diamondbacks. It's not necessarily to say they're going to place claims on all these guys. We talked about the ramifications of that yesterday and how you have to be prepared to pay all the salaries. You have to be prepared to make five roster moves if you're going to place five claims. But yeah, there are guys that I think do make sense for the diamondbacks here. of course the two relievers from the angels are in there. Matt Moore and Reinaldo Lopez. Those would be in my estimation pretty much no-brainer moves for the Diamondbacks
Starting point is 00:50:40 to at least place claims on those guys and see what happens. Matt Moore has a 238 ERA on the season. Would instantly become one of the debacks three best relievers alongside Paul Seawald and Kevin Ginkle. He's a lefty. He has significant reverse splits. So the debacks kind of have this issue right now, where late in the game, if they needed to get a good left-handed hitter out,
Starting point is 00:51:02 I'm not exactly sure who they would go to. Matt Moore, unfortunately, does not really solve that problem because left-handed hitters have like an 850 OPS against him this season, despite the fact that he's a left-handed pitcher. But Ritees have really struggled. Ritees have like a 500 OPS. So Matt Moore would be a slam dunk get if they could make that happen. Rinaldo Lopez has a 386 ERA on the season,
Starting point is 00:51:25 the highest strikeout rate of his career. He's not an elite backer. and reliever. He's probably a step below Matt Moore, but still a guy who would absolutely be meaningful for this Diamondbacks team. The biggest name is probably Lucas Golito. I'm sure a lot of people have been fixated on that name. I think that probably makes sense for the Diamondbacks as well. He had a 6-8-9 ERA in six starts after being traded to the Angels, which is not at all good. There are some red flags there. No. He gave up, I believe, I believe 10 home runs in 32 and a third inning. during his time with the Angels, which is not ideal. That sounds like a problem that could be solved by the Arizona Diamondbacks. Give them to Brent Strom. He'll fix them.
Starting point is 00:52:06 There you go. There you go. But yeah, you know, there's there's not as much assurance there as you would like. But at the same time, is Lucas G. Alito better than some other pitchers, you know, in this rotation or in this bullpen? I think you'd probably have to say yes. You know, you'd probably buy a guy like that bouncing back on some level the rest of of the way. So I think that makes some sense for the Diamondbacks as well. You mentioned Mike Clevenger. There is, yes, a history between him and Diamondbacks color analyst Bob Brenley. There was a comment that Bob made on the broadcast. I believe it was last June. Mike Clevenger was not too happy about it.
Starting point is 00:52:45 It turned into this whole thing. Clevenger was also accused of a domestic abuse situation earlier this year. MLB decided that there was nothing, there was no penalty on their part. for that, but obviously there's still, you know, there's some baggage with Mike Clevenger for sure. There's no getting around that. The other factor with Clevenger is that he has a $12 million mutual option for next season. So all of these other guys on the list, they're only under contracted the remainder of this year. So, you know, you pick them up. You're paying their salary the rest of the way, but there's no ramifications for next season whatsoever. With Clevenger, you have this mutual option for next season where if you don't want to hold up your side
Starting point is 00:53:28 of that mutual option, then you're stuck with a $4 million buyout. And that's pretty expensive to pay Kellevenger $2 million for the rest of this year, plus a $4 million buyout to have him go somewhere else and pitch somewhere else next year. That's $6 million for about a month. I don't know if I see that one happen. But I don't understand that because the Diamondbacks really don't seem to have any, in my opinion, and maybe it's just my opinion. They don't seem to have very many options starting pitching going forward, right?
Starting point is 00:53:56 So it's like, I don't know if paying Mike Clevenger $12 million next year is the worst thing ever if he could be a competitive pitcher. But based like what you said, based on Lucas Gialito's numbers and some of Clevenger's numbers from this year, I don't know. Maybe the Diamondbacks do have better options. Maybe those options are already within their organization. But speaking of options within the organization, the Diamondbacks still may call up one Jordan Lawler. and you have an update in regards to that transaction that he might, if he does get called up, he would still be able to appear on the postseason roster if it's not by tomorrow? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:36 So, yeah, some clarification on this point. It's something we talked about on the show before. Officially, Major League Baseball has a rule where you have to be on the roster by August 31st at midnight in order to be postseason eligible. However, there is an exception clause for a play. an injured player. So if you get into the postseason and you have someone get hurt, then you can use a player who's in your organization and throw them in there as well.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Now, when we talked about this originally, Nick Ahmed ghost injury incoming. Nick Ahmed's phantom injury incoming. Damon, take care of them. I was literally just going to say Nick Ahmed's leg is like hurt. Oh, lower body soreness, non-descript. The weird thing here, though, is that, yeah, I mean, and that's what we talked about the other day, is like, well, you're not going to, like, assume that an injury is going to happen. If you want Jordan Lawler postseason eligible, you're going to make sure that Jordan Lawler's postseason eligible.
Starting point is 00:55:38 But what I've since discovered is that teams can basically use any player that's been injured even the whole season. And they can say, oh, this is an injury replacement for, say, Mark Melanson, who has been on the 60-day IL basically the entire year. D-backs could use that. They could use the injury replacement clause, even with a guy who, like, clearly would not be an option to put on the postseason roster anyway. So all that to say, if the D-backs called up Jordan Lawler on September 15th, they could still have him on the postseason roster.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Yoshi in the chat coming in hot. I don't want Nick Ahmed to be hurt. I'm saying we lie about him being here. We pretend he's hurt. We get it. I don't want. Yoshi, wink. Come on.
Starting point is 00:56:18 You have to say it out loud. Moe's asking if Jordan Lawler's Jerry Lawler's son. No, Moe. that is Grandmaster Sexay and you know that. Jesse, you did have a clip here from Tori after tonight's game in regards to this series. And I guess whatever they do, they're going to need some reinforcements from somewhere, whether it's from their minor league system or from the waiver wire in order for them to be able to compete with this Dodgers team that beat them so thoroughly. But Tori discussed some of the factors that may have been at play in this series loss.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Not enough to make us play the way we did. We got to play better baseball. Dodgers are good. I want to be respectable with every opponent. But we've, I think we were five and seven against the Dodgers this year. And look, that's improvements. Those are improvements over the past couple of years. But it's not where I want to end up.
Starting point is 00:57:15 We've got to be better against this team in particular, especially in this venue. Todd really tried to ruin the shot there. Get away, Todd. What are we doing here? To be fair, I mean, it's kind of part of Todd. job there with the microphones. That's fine. We'll forgive him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:29 The question that was asked here was how much of this series do you attribute to, you know, the stadium, the opponent, the stage, those kinds of things. And as you heard there, Tori's answer was, you know, not enough for it to look like this. Like certainly those things are factors to some extent, but the Diamondbacks just got destroyed in the series. And, you know, you think back to their other series. at Dodger Stadium this year.
Starting point is 00:57:57 The only other one, there's only two with this, with this new schedule that we got here. And it was the first series of the year. The Diamondbacks opened the season with a four-game set here at Dodger Stadium. And they split that series. But if I remember correctly, the run differential was not pretty. I think they were minus 18 or something in that series. Feedbacks have allowed a lot of runs compared to how many they've scored in, the games they played at this, this ballpark this year.
Starting point is 00:58:27 And it just continues a trend from recent years. I mean, over the last five seasons, the devats are seven and 40 against the Dodgers in this ballpark, something like that. I don't have it in front of me. But it's been ugly, and it certainly continued to be here over the last few days. Well, we do have the wild card standings for the whatever, whatever we want to look at here. I don't like this one bit, but of course, the Diamondbacks actually do. do have technically a productive loss here because with the Giants winning or the Giants
Starting point is 00:59:00 losing right to the Reds but the Diamondbacks also losing they stayed a half a game behind the Giants if the Diamondbacks would have won this game they'd be half a game up and the Giants would be one more team in their way of potentially improving their team on with some of these players available on the waivers so I mean these are the teams I want in the playoffs obviously he's swapping the D-backs for the Giants like as a baseball fan I want to see the Cubs and the Phillies screw the Reds and screw the Marlins I don't want to see you you're You're not fun. Who cares?
Starting point is 00:59:26 I want to see Cody Bellinger and the best, maybe the best four stop in baseball, Dancy Swanson, shout out, and the electric factory that is Bryce Harper and the Phillies. I want to see them and the electric factory that is the down Arizona downbacks. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:59:37 I'm with it. I'm with it. I wish the Brewers didn't have to be in the playoffs. They might not be. They feel so boring, right? You might not be. They're just so Milwaukee,
Starting point is 00:59:46 dude. Like, who is? After driving, their pitching staff is pretty, they're pitching staff. would be frightening in like a i mean as things stand right now if you finish with the third wild card spot you're facing the brewers in Milwaukee in a three game series in the wild card
Starting point is 01:00:05 round i don't know if that's a match if you want i mean you're looking at corb better than any other ones in my opinion fredd pralta i i guess i mean i don't know you would would you i if i were the diamond backs i would maybe want the cubs more in a yeah fair in a three game series than i would want the the brewers it really comes down to pitching right It's like who are the three pitchers, who are the three starting pitchers that you have in the series? You're not going to find much better than Corbin Burns, Brandon Woodruff, Freddie Peralta, and the Brewer's Bullpen, which is consistently one of the best in all of baseball. That's pretty rough over a short series.
Starting point is 01:00:42 Being a good pitching team is the most boring way to be good to. Like, that's the most, of course, they're good. I don't disagree. So annoying. So boring. Jesse, do you have any updates on the probabilities for the upcoming series against the Baltimore Orioles. We listed our probabilities, but we didn't know if there was a change.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Yeah, I'm going to guess that whatever you guys had is probably what it's going to be. Tori is just keeping things in the set order. We have Davey, Cicconi, and Gowan. There you go. That's it. Davy Cicone, Gallon. We did wonder if the Diamondbacks were going to make a change on this front because Tori talked about a week ago about how they were going to go full throttle.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Was that Gallon and Merrill Kelly? the rest of the way and try to pitch those guys on four days rest every time. Tori said that they will be doing some of that, but I think at the time he said there's, there's like one extra day in there. Presumably, this is that. So the debacks are not, they're not using that strategy now, but it kind of seems like they're going to use that strategy the rest of the way. Obviously, they're coming into a span of, you know, 17 games and 17 days.
Starting point is 01:01:50 So they're, you know, I mean, they're not even going to have an opportunity to. to use that strategy here for a while because they don't have any off days for forever. But yeah, interesting that the debacks decided to do this. Tori made a comment about, you know, if you kind of play this out through the end of the season, you'll understand where we're going with this. So I'll have to do some digging on that.
Starting point is 01:02:10 But I'm sure it, you know, I'm sure it kind of lines up the way they want it. He did that with a little bit of a wink. And he kept telling us, like, if you keep, you know, if you look at the schedule, it plays out and you'll figure it out. You guys are smart, you know, but, uh, Jesse, get home, safe. We will be back here. No show on Friday because we are going to recap this Baltimore
Starting point is 01:02:30 Orioles series on Sunday. So Jesse and I will be back to recap that on Sunday. Me and this maniac will be back tomorrow with a very special guest, Mike Farrant from Sirius XM and from the MLB Network show over there. So
Starting point is 01:02:45 Jesse's sad to be missing out on Mike Faron because I believe he's going to be traveling during our show, but Jesse will be back with us this weekend. So watch out for boulders watch out for hurricanes and drink plenty of water i will say about tomorrow's show i i don't know how i'm going to do it because like i don't i'm not really going to be in a place that is internet tomorrow but tomorrow is going to be potentially a pretty big day for this diamond backs team uh from what i've seen it looks like the waiver decisions are probably going to come down at
Starting point is 01:03:14 1 p.m. Eastern time, which would be 10 a.m. Arizona time. I don't know if we're necessarily going to get announcements at that point in the day, but that's like when that's when the process will officially happen. So, uh, yeah, tomorrow's going to be a big day. And I don't know if I can find a way to be on the show, uh, you know, I don't know how it's going to work. We'll figure it out. If we have to get you in the middle of the goddamn desert between here in Los Angeles. We can make it work. Yeah. Pull over in in Blythe or. or Indio or one of those places and just we'll figure it out. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
Starting point is 01:03:50 There's a great place to get a date shake on the way back, get a dates shake, and call us from there, and we'll arrange it. India is underrated, and India gets way too much hate, you know? It really does. It's because we don't want to be there. We want to be in L.A. We don't want to be anywhere in between here and L.A. We just want to instantly be there.
Starting point is 01:04:10 But, Jesse, we appreciate you. We'll see you tomorrow, hopefully. I hope I'm going to be just a wreck until I find out that you're back here safely. But I hope we see Endbor's show because, like you said, there's some big news coming down the pipe. Could you imagine if the D-Backs make like three new, like if they get three guys tomorrow? Could you imagine if we wake up tomorrow and Lucas Giolyto? And or Mike Clevenger, Arizona, Diamondbacks. We're just like, I didn't see that one coming.
Starting point is 01:04:37 Stop it. Stop it. I don't know if we're getting any sleep tonight between thinking of that and worrying about Jesse. But all right, buddy. We'll see you tomorrow. All right, sounds good. See you guys. And I know Jesse has.
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Starting point is 01:06:40 It's like a commercial. It's the perfect. It's odd. And you can get that, by the way, at the Four Peaks draft room, which was where we will be meeting up on September 5th for our takeover event. It is going to be our last takeover of the year. And I just wanted to stop and thank you guys so much for coming out this year. Whether you came out one time, whether you've come out to all of them, you guys have been incredible. I really adore the baseball crew that we have somewhat created.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Absolutely. Those of you and you know who you are that show up. to all of them. You're beloved by us, and we can't thank you enough for the support, but most importantly, how much fun we've had watching baseball with you guys. I mean, this job, I know it's fun, but it can tend to be a job. And I think the takeover days are those one days that remind me of how much I love baseball, just hanging out with you guys.
Starting point is 01:07:29 We literally just get to go, not often that we get to go and just go to a baseball game. Yeah, and go drink beers, hang out. Go be a baseball. Talk about Dick Mountain, do Dick Mountain chance. Take the credential off and yell it. That's right. So make sure to join us for the last one. And of course, it's not the end. We're going to have so many more next year, probably even more than we had this year. But well, and maybe, maybe, maybe we get something special going on if a playoff game happened to Jay's Field.
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Starting point is 01:08:58 And remember, kids, baseball is fun, but it is so much more fun when you can actually hang with the Dodgers.

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