PHNX Arizona Diamondbacks Podcast - Every Rosenthal has its thorn

Episode Date: January 4, 2022

On this episode, Jesse and Derek are discussing MLB Network parting ways with Ken Rosenthal over critical comments about Rob Manfred, and they take a look at some of the most significant trades made during Mike Hazen's time as GM. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello and welcome to the PHNX D-BACs podcast right here on PHNX. My name is Derek Montia, officially known as your mayor of 2022. And of course, I'm joined by my vice mayor, my friend, my co-host, the Thunderstick, Jesse Friedman. We have baseball news today, Derek. Baseball news. Sort of. Kind of, not really. What we know is that there are still no talks happening, and we'll get to that shortly.

but of course, we are brought to you by the fine folks at the Draft King's Sportsbook app. Go download the Draft King Sportsbook app now. Use our code of PHNX and new customers can bet just $5 on any football team to win their game. And if they do, you will win $200 in additional free bets on top of whatever your payout is from the Draft King Sportsbook app. We are in the final week of the pro football season. So let's go get that money. Jesse, yes, we have some news to talk about. The first news is not much news on the lockout front.

Reports are that the two sides will not meet this week, Jesse. They decided that, you know, they're a bit hungover from January 1st and all the partying they did on New Year's Eve. So they decided that they wanted to take the extra week off. I am starting to believe that your January 28th date may be in jeopardy, my friend. Oh, I am as confident as ever, Derek. Don't you dare put it down like that. You were like, I knew this was going to happen.

Oh, yeah. If they would have met this week, I would have said January 21st, but they didn't meet this week. So I knew it was going to be January 20th. I mean, you know that they're just kind of dilly-dalling around because they know that they don't, they know that they don't like have to make any kind of real progress this early in the month of January. So, you know, they're just, they're just waiting around and just kind of kicking it and

enjoying their first week of 2022. and, you know, things will get figured out in plenty of time, Derek. I have no concern. I will tell you this with all certainty, and I've never meant anything more in my entire life. I am terrified of what it's going to be like to live with you. Should they get this deal done on January 28? You better be ready, Derek.

If this happens, we're never going to hear the end of it. I'm never going to hear the end of this. We'll probably never talk about anything else on the show for at least a week. But I mean, don't be surprised. Don't be surprised if it happens. All of our Mailbag Monday episodes are just going to be people writing us asking for your advice or what's going to happen to them in the future. Jesse, how do I die? Tell me how I die, Jesse.

Well, I don't know if I'm going to tell you how, but I'll just be able to tell you when. I'll just feel to give you the exact date. So, you know, people want that. I'm here to serve the people. I would very much like to know potentially when I'm going to get fired from this network. I talking to Saul the other day and he was asking me for recommendations on people. And I said, for what? And he said as a new DBACs host.

And I said, for what? And he's like to replace the current one we have. And I was like, yeah, I knew this call was coming. But today you would have been able to tell Ken Rosenthal that his ties with the MLB network we're going to be over with your ability to tell a future because that is what happened over Rosenthal's criticisms of Rob Manfred. Jesse, do you want to criticize Rob Manfred for a second? Or how do you want to start doing this?

I just think it's disappointing that MLB Network. I mean, obviously, MLB Network is a production of Major League Baseball. And they don't want, you know, they don't want their, their main. spokespeople criticizing, you know, the person running their entire operation. I see where they're coming from. It can be kind of a PR nightmare for them. The problem for me and the problem that a lot of people have voiced when the news came down is that Ken Rosenthal is not a gotcha type of journalist, right? I mean, he is, he is at the pinnacle of journalistic integrity across all of sports. And so when it's a guy like that, it's a little bit hard to take it seriously because

we all know that Ken Rosenthal isn't trying to report anything that isn't true. And what he is reporting, he's probably doing it very accurately and very professionally. And the fact that Major League Baseball doesn't want that is disappointing. And it's telling that Rob Manfred is sort of this untouchable god of sorts in Major League Baseball's eyes and they're they're just very protective

of him and his reputation and anyone who gets in the way of that is probably going to experience what Ken Rosenthal is experiencing right now well without putting myself in too much danger here I would like to say that you just can't do that

that can't be the way that you operate when you are the head of an organization like this, especially during a situation where we have a work stoppage, the first one in a number of years. And to be honest, the second one in a couple, in two years, right? Because you have to still consider their entire negotiation process to get the season started during the pandemic, kind of a work stoppage.

So, you know, that looked bad enough at the time, but this is going to look really bad if it delays the season. I feel like I am openly accepting of criticism that I'm going to experience for this show, for things I say on Twitter, for everything, right? And to be honest, it's something that I have no, I personally, I have control over what I say, right? But I have no control sometimes over if I criticize. or badmouth someone who I don't feel like is doing their job properly,

if that is going to come back to haunt me in some sort of way. I feel like I've been open and honest with my feelings. I feel like you have too, you know, but at the same time, you know, you are much more respectful about it than I am. At times, I tend to call people fucking clowns. And I don't think those words would ever come out of your mouth. However, Rosenthal wrote stuff like this about Manfred,

which is part of the criticism. this is one of the things that got his role diminished over at the MLB network originally. He wrote, as if the perception that Manfred is beholden to owners and out of touch with players was not bad enough. He was trending on Twitter on Monday after performing a massive flip-flop. That is what got him, you know, some sort of trouble originally, right? These are not criticisms other, they are pointing out what's happening. you know and if you don't like what's happening then unfortunately you know i don't really think

that rosenthal is embellishing here i think he's just reporting you know on the truth and he's he's reporting it from his perspective and his perspective is this that manfred is beholden to owners and out of touch with players right and that's yeah that's he's definitely not the first person to say that right um you know and honestly the the entire idea that commissioner of an organization can't be criticized or else people are going to suffer the consequences of being, you know, fired is, is ridiculous, right? Fire, fire the security guards that harassed me and my friend at the fiesta bowl. Oh, my gosh.

Because they didn't know where the sections were and they thought we had fake tickets for a section that didn't exist, right? security guards who were prepared to throw us out of the building, despite the fact that our tickets that we got at Will Call, standing in line for 45 minutes, by the way, which was another whole other debacle at State Farm Stadium, when we walked in, our tickets went beep-boot and turn the light green, and we came in, and, you know,

we had the audacity to ask a security guard where our section was because it was a certain sports lounge general admission area. and it's brand new. And these guys had no idea. And they accused us of trying to come in with fake tickets that were for an event that were before the game and all this other stuff. Eventually got figured out. And despite the fact that there was a giant sign right next to us,

pointing to the sport lounge being in this direction, which if I had seen, I would have never talked to the security guard in the first place. But fire people that make someone's experience coming into a stadium like that miserable. Those are the type of people that deserve to be fine. not that I'm trying to play any kind of personal feelings into this, but man, what a terrible experience. I didn't even care to go to the Fiesta Bowl. It was New Year's Day. I was hungover. I had no business going with, you know, this this troublemaker, friend of mine, Megaran to,

to go see a Fiesta Bowl game. You were asking for it. You really were. I was. I really was. How dare I try to go as a guest of the Fiesta Bowl committee with tickets they provided us to the game. What, you know, crazy. But anyway, but you can't fire someone for criticizing you. That's just a part of the game, right? Yeah. It's, I mean, honestly, it's something I was guilty of on social media, that good old block button when I didn't like what someone said, you know, towards me. And with a little time,

realized how ridiculous I was being and, you know, how there's, there's definitely a fine line. And yeah, a lot of people cross it on Twitter. But there's people that are just truly hateful and disrespectful and those people deserve to be blocked. But the people that merely say something that you said was dumb on a show or whatever, you know, they don't deserve to be blocked, even though sometimes I like to do that. But anyway. shout out to MLB Network though by the way I love MLB Network I'm a big fan and if they're looking for you know some sort of new person to wear flashy attire and come beyond their network I can't promise I won't criticize Rob Manfred but I promise if I do it will be way less

eloquent than Rosenthal was I promise if I criticize Rob Manfred I'm sure that other thing I said about effing clowns would probably come out of my mouth. But that's only if you delay the season and you miss Jesse's January 28th date. Right, right. Actually, I'll probably be more angry if they hit the January 28th date, to be honest. I'll probably be mad at Rob Manfred if they come out January 28th date and said we did it. We did it. It's over.

We solved the labor crisis. But anyway, Jesse, you were here. You did not get a chance to go on the Drafking Sportsbook. Earlier today, I was on the PHNX Bet Show, and I shared a bit of information that I was taking Deante Johnson from the Pittsburgh Steelers for the first touchdown of the game at plus 1,000. And guess who scored the first touchdown of tonight's game, Jesse? Wow. This is just me. This is just me doing a little victory lap.

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New customers only eligibility restrictions apply. Cedraftkings.com slash sportsbook for details. and Jesse, you, you went far. By the way, sometimes we have to rein Jesse in because if not, he will use all the data. He'll use all the bandwidth on the website, whatever it takes by sucking it all up for his mega, ultra huge articles. But they deserve, they don't deserve to be on a website. They don't deserve to be on a website.

They deserve to be in a book on your shelf. There it is. a hard, hard bound book, beautiful leather book that you keep and read to your grandchildren, because he has some solid information. And he went over in great detail, Mike Hazen's most significant trades in Arizona Diamondbacks history, right? All of the trades that he's made. Yeah. Okay, all of the trades he's made.

And, man, it's a beast, and you can get it over at go phnx.com. Obviously, you can become a member. use the annual, get an annual membership for just $59.99, and you will get a free t-shirt over at the PHNX Locker.com. You can also become a month-to-month member if you don't want to do the annual membership and you'll get your first month for just 50 cents. Try it out, confirm how much you love it, and then go get that annual membership. But Jesse wrote this piece and I was curious because I saw a lot of transactions. You said you had to actually cut it down from what it was originally going to be because you were going to write a, you know, 50,000 word novel. I was going to write about every

trade he's ever made, including, you know, the less significant, you know, rental deals here and there. And, and yeah, it was, it was excessively long. Nobody wants to read that many words. So, yeah, so that's how we landed with just the most significant trades, which there's still about 10 of them in the article. So I still, you know, Eduardo Escobar, the rental deal is still in there. There's there's some deals that were maybe shorter term that I still felt belonged in that category. So there's a lot there, Derek. The final product is still a bit of a beast, as you said. So anything stands out to you that anything was surprising, maybe something you forgot

or some deal that now looks much differently in retrospect? Yeah. So something that I honestly hadn't really caught up on this. So this was a surprise to me. but I was looking back at actually the deal I just mentioned when the diamondbacks acquired Eduardo Escobar from the Minnesota Twins. This was back in 2018. Jake Lamb was struggling slash hurt at the time.

The Diamondbacks needed a third baseman. They spent a lot of the 2018 season in first place in the division. So it was a big time for them. And so they went out and they got Eduardo Escobar from the twins. It was a half year rental. Escobar was only under team. control through the remainder of the season. So they were only getting, you know, a few months of Eduardo Escobar.

What I hadn't realized is that one of the prospects in the deal is actually pretty highly touted for the twins right now. The Diamondbacks traded three players. It was right-handed pitcher Joan Duran, outfielder Ernie de la Trinidad, which I might be burturing that name. But it wouldn't be the first time we've- No, you got it. here on the podcast. I feel pretty confident. And then outfielder Gabriel Masiel, who was actually

at the time, Masiel was actually seen as the headliner name of the trade. I think he was about 18 years old. He'd already showed out very nicely in the early stages of the Diamondbacks minor league system. So he was sort of viewed as as the headliner in the deal. But today, Joan Duran is the twins' fifth best prospect, according to MLB pipeline. He's still only 23 years old, and a lot of scouts really like his chances of being a starter in the majors. He's a guy who's not really viewed as having much of a risk of becoming a reliever. He has a good, solid three-pitch mix that a lot of people think will play in the majors.

And like I mentioned, he's only 23 years old. And so, I mean, if he is able to come up to the big leagues and be a, fixture and the twins rotation for, you know, six years, that's a pretty big get for the twins in exchange for, you know, what was really just a half a season of Eduardo Escobar originally. So that was something that that really stuck out to me, Derek. One other note on this tray that I'll give real quick is that Masiel was actually just claimed by the Oakland A's in the minor league rule five draft. We talked about that recently with the Diamondbacks losing Andrew Young.

but Masiel is actually no longer with the twins. He's now moved to the A's organization because of that. Interesting. All right. So, well, what is, what's the best trade he's made? Oh, man. That's a really tough question to answer. In the article, I briefly, I briefly mention what I think the best trade might be.

I don't really make a solid case for it. I guess I'll try to now. It's hard to argue. As crazy as this sounds in a sense, it's hard to argue with the J.D. Martinez trade. Because even though he was only around for a few months, I mean, the guy hit 29 home runs in 62 games. That is a pace, Derek, of 76 home runs over the course of a full season.

That's the rate that J.D. Martinez was hitting home runs at. There's a reason they called the man just stingers when the deal went down. But yeah, I mean, in the deal, the diamondbacks gave up three prospects, frankly, there hasn't really been much there for the Tigers so far. Dowell Lugo was kind of the headliner and infielder. He did make the majors for Detroit at the age of 23, but he was not particularly good and is not not played in the majors the last couple of years. So the Diamondbacks basically got J.D. Martinez that year for for next to nothing. And I think for everyone, we talked about it the other day, you know, maybe the Diamondbacks should have paid J.D. Martinez rather than Goldie, if they were, if they were willing to pay one of them, maybe that's the route that they should have gone. And he was a fan favorite here for, you know, for those few months that he was around. And I don't, I mean, that's just a clear win. Like that is a trade Mike Hazen made where it is just abundantly clear.

clear that he absolutely fleeced the Detroit Tigers. Yeah, yeah. I know, I know quite a few Tigers fans that were quite upset, but that was also a time when the Tigers were fire selling off their whole team, right? So, yeah, everybody was kind of available on clearance at that point,

it seemed like. I don't know why the Tigers traded him for so little, frankly. It's, I mean, the return at the time was probably, viewed better than it is now because these these prospects haven't really panned out but um but yeah i mean it it was not much for a guy of jd martinez his caliber even even given that obviously it was only for a few months it was just a rental deal but uh the diamond backs would would surely make that move again given the option it was probably most likely that they made made them the offer right because this was a

you know this was a situation where a lot of teams knew what was going on with the with the tigers and what they were doing and you know martinez's contract was up at the end of the season i get a lot of teams not wanting to get into that situation especially so it's like it's like what i said about goldschmidt when goldschmidt hired scott boris i was like all right i'm out like that you don't hire scott boris unless the idea is for you to get paid the absolute most money that you can right and J.D. Martinez was that guy that everybody kind of knew was going to get one of those type deals at the end of the season. So I don't think anyone was really interested in just renting him, you know, or maybe giving up, giving up much just for that rental.

But man, what a, what a short love affair we had with that man. Justinger's. Shout out, J.D. I still miss you. You really never let go from what I think about him every single day of my life. There's not a single day of my life. I run in his shirt almost every day just because I miss him. The four gingers shirt from the D-Backs. That was one of their best giveaways ever, despite the fact that it happened after he left the team.

It showed where all four home runs landed. It was great. That was a memorable day of the last decade of Diamondbacks baseball. That is up there for sure. What a day. All right. Well, anything else? Anything else stood out to you?

I don't want to give away your whole article. You guys got to go to go PHNX.com and sign up for it. But what do you got? Anything else that was a surprising trade? Yeah, I think another, I mean, we've talked about a lot of these trades at length. I mean, the Goldschmidt trade. I wrote about, I wrote a separate article about that one, but I kind of gave the Cliff Notes version in this one, the Granky trade.

I break that down in here as well. But one trade that I feel like. like a lot of us have totally forgotten about. And for good reason in a lot of ways is the deal that brought Stephen Sousa to the Arizona Diamondbacks. Stephen Sousa, his Diamondbacks career did not exactly go as many people hoped. It was it was not what you, not what you want. Started out bad from the beginning in spring training.

It did. It did. And I mean, he only played 72 games for the Diamondbacks. that was all in the in the first year of the deal in 2018 and then 2019 this is something that's happened a couple of times i think it happened to a j pollock at one point two those those dang exhibition games at chase field right before the season starts the diamondbacks have had a few players suffer major injuries in those games and that happened in 2019 for stephen susa when he tore both his ACL and his LCL uh i believe was sliding into home plate and And then the Diamondbacks non-tendered him after that season ended. He didn't play another game with the team. So, yeah, and the other names in this deal, it just feels like nothing good has come out of this for anyone. The Diamondbacks traded away Anthony Banda in this deal, who was maybe the team's top

pitching prospect at the time. Banda has, he needed Tommy John surgery shortly after the trade. He is back in the majors now, but he's really just been a middle reliever. last year with the Pirates and the Mets. Band had a 428 ERA and a 155 whip. So not exactly star-level stuff, especially coming out of the bullpen. And the other name in this deal is Brandon Drury,

who at one point was seen as being a big part of the Diamondbacks Young Corps. Yes, absolutely. Yeah. We talked about him when we brought up that list from 10 years ago, about he was, wasn't he one of the names on their top prospects list back then? I believe. Yeah. Yeah. Brandon Jury at one point was a pretty, pretty well thought of. But yeah, I don't, I got to say, Derek, this is a major counterpoint for, you know,

the storyline that we've talked about where, you know, players leave the diamondbacks and suddenly they become stars. The opposite was true in the case of Brandon Jury. Immediately after the trade, he's, you kind of became a disaster at the plate. He is slashed 205 with a 254 on base percentage and a 346 slugging percentage. Yikes. Between 2018 and 2020 with the Yankees and the Blue Jays. He was just a mess. And I mean, maybe part of that was going to New York and all of the pressure of being a member of the Yankees. Sure. I don't know. I can only imagine that like playing for some of those teams, the Cubs, the Red Sox, the Yankees. Right. But it's especially like

the volatile fan bases too, right? Like the Yankees fan base really won't give you a lot of leeway. I don't feel like. I might be villainizing them unjustly, but no, I don't feel like the Yankees. Like, they'll give you like three games max for you to do something good, good before they start booing you even at home. You know, like. On Carlos Stanton hit like 35 home runs and and still gets booed. Like, yeah, I don't.

They are a, they are a ruthless fan base. But, yeah, Brandon Jury was just not the player he was in Arizona, the moment after the deal. Last year, he was better. He hit 274 in a bench roll for the Mets. I think it was about 70 played appearances. So not really a big sample size. But, yeah, the Taylor Widener came over in this trade. The Diamondbacks got Widener.

At this point, it kind of seems like he kind of is what he is, you know, a decent right-handed reliever. not a guy you probably want in your starting rotation super long term at least right now. But as we talked about, we'll see what happens when Brent Strom gets his hands on him and maybe maybe turns things around. The Brent Strom effect. There you go. It works. It works better with the Joe Mather effect.

But yeah, regardless, Brent Strom. Brent Strom pitch or whisperer. Yeah, no, I'm excited to see that still. And I don't know. I mean, the one thing I'm. will say about Mike Hazen's tenure and his trades is at least, you really can't say any of them have been an embarrassment. There hasn't been any like, you know,

any kind of significant losses where they made huge mistakes. They kind of gave the Starling Marte situation, I think is the one thing where you could make that case. I mean, they, they kind of bought. high and soul low somehow, which is not what you want to do, especially when you trade him, you know, within eight months of when you originally acquired him. And he was good. He played well for the diamond backs.

There's really no reason for them to have sold pennies on the dollar. And he got better too, right? Like he only got better after he left the team. So, well, yeah, but it's still not the Dave Stewart. no no there's no there's no there's no shelby miller level of egregious on this list so we could we could do five we could do an entire week of of dave stewart era uh transactions we probably yeah do we want to is no god no anyone want to listen to that is the question but yeah i think it i think it's telling uh just going through every single major trade that hazen is made you're right

Right. There's really not, it's really not like Mike Hazen has done a horrible job managing this baseball team. And I know, you know, they won 52 games last year and they're going to be people on Twitter clamoring about how this franchise is horrible and Ken Kendrick needs to sell the team and Mike Hazen needs to be fired and just all of these, all of these outrageous claims. But in reality, looking at every free agent move that Mike Hazen has done, which I wrote a separate piece about that. And every big trade that Mike Hazen has made, It's not excellent, but it's far from embarrassing. He really has done a pretty decent job in terms of the value that he's brought in for the value that he's given away, whether it be with money or with players and trades. It just hasn't worked out for the Diamondbacks these last couple years. And I think that recency bias is kind of makes people feel a certain way about Mike Hazen, that this is his doing and that, you know, he's done a horrible job. I don't know if that's really accurate. If anything, I would accuse him of actually playing it too safe. The Madison Bumgarner deal obviously didn't work out or hasn't worked out.

And honestly, didn't really look great from the beginning other than, you know, the way they structured it. I remember for some reason just being really excited about the fact that they got it done, considering that they were still carrying Tomas's contract at the time. And it didn't seem like they were going to be able to sign someone of that dollar amount on this team. It hasn't exactly worked out. But if anything, I'll say that Haysen hasn't tried or hasn't pulled off enough of those moves. He's been a bit conservative. And that might not be his own doing.

It's kind of like when Tori Lovolo kind of shrugs at times in the post-game press conference about the personnel that he's being given. And those decisions aren't being made by him. All he can do is do his best with the guys that he's given. but he didn't sound like he had even much of a say at times in who they were deciding to trade for, call up, you know, DFA, all of those kind of decisions, you know. So he could definitely be that same case with Mike Gason, where his hands are a bit tied on the acquisitions he can make. And, you know, he's done the best with what he can do. I still think the Mark Malanson deal, despite the fact that we haven't seen the man pitch in a D-backed uniform yet, is still a really interesting deal for me that I'm honestly surprised they got done.

Yeah, yeah. Like say what you will about the closer and closing opportunities and get your jokes in now. I mean, I can wait. I'll give you a moment. Yeah, that's funny. Yeah. more oh yeah hilarious okay but uh yes they will uh have a big need for someone like malanson and honestly again it was kind of like my fantasy of yesterday of getting nick castianos on this team right

really what there is is that you know like i said it's the spreading of the joe mather effect and the philosophy uh because you know how can you not look at someone like that who uh one of the hitters right now in baseball and say that you know when he's telling you listen to everything this guy's saying because he you know he made me so much better than i already was that you know that could be a big buy-in for a lot of guys you know i don't i don't really think they're going to have that problem anyway i don't think they're going to have a problem buying in but again sometimes you never know you know you never know about philosophies and the way people uh especially when you've had multiple coaches they've had multiple hitting coaches, multiple pitching coaches,

you know, you might, after a while, just kind of get tired of hearing, you know, someone new coming in with something and just want to do what you want to do. But anyway, no new lockout news, Jesse. And again, I don't know what to tell you. I think that date is in jeopardy. We'll see what happens. If Ken Rosenthal needs a job,

tell him the contact Saul Bookman over at PHNX, I'm sure he'd be happy. to replace one of the two hosts on this show with Ken Rosenthal. And for the record, I think Ken Rosenthal already has two jobs because he still with the athletic. He's still with Fox Sports. So floating it out there. Yeah, we can bring Ken in. We could make room for Ken.

Yeah. I mean, he can pop on this. Anytime. Anytime you want to come on, you're invited. But again, you guys, thank you so much for tuning in. You can follow us on Twitter. I am at cap underscore caveman with a k. Jesse is at Jesse and Friedman.

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