PHNX Arizona Diamondbacks Podcast - How can the Diamondbacks keep Zac Gallen in Arizona for the long term?

Episode Date: September 13, 2023

Recent starting rotation struggles have only highlighted how good Zac Gallen has been for the Diamondbacks. Is a setback in his Cy Young bid a good thing for Arizona’s chances at keeping him in the Valley? We also discuss how good Tommy Pham has been in September, which teams have been eliminated from playoff contention, and our weekly MLB Power Rankings.An ALLCITY Network ProductionSUBSCRIBE to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/phnx_youtubeALL THINGS PHNX: http://linktr.ee/phnxsports PHNX Events: Get your tickets to D-backs Takeovers, Knockout Nights & Suns Watch Parties at BetMGM, and MORE here: https://www.eventbrite.com/o/phnx-56002330273 WATCH YOUR FAVORITE TEAMS: https://www.fubotv.com/phnx WIN MONEY THROUGH SPLASH SPORTS: https://www.splashsports.com/phnx Head to https://factormeals.com/phnxdbacks50 and use code phnxdbacks50 to get 50% off.Go to https://saturdayneon.com and use code PHNX for 10% off your order today. Free shipping for orders over $200!Gametime: Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code PHNX for $20 off your first purchase.Pins & Aces: Check out https://pinsandaces.com and use code PHNX to receive 15% off your first order and get free shipping.Circle K: Text PHNX to 31310 to join the Circle K SMS subscriber club and get BOGO 32 oz Polar Pops! Head to https://www.circlek.com/store-locator to find Circle Ks near you!OGeez!: Score 25% off a bag of your favorite OGeez! Fruits of Creams. Go to https://theflowershopusa.com, add a bag of OGeez! to your cart, enter promo code “PHNX” and pickup at a local The Flower Shop dispensary.Four Peaks: Follow them on social @fourpeaksbrew & @fourpeakspub! Must be 21+. Enjoy responsibly. When you shop through links in the description, we may earn affiliate commissions. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello and welcome in to another edition of the PHMX Debats podcast right on PHMX. My name is Garrick Fontya. Of course, I'm your mayor of PichNX. This man is in charge of the public works. He is Mr. Electricity itself. Sean DePaz. Of course.

Corporate commissioner, Sean DePaz. And of course, there's the vice mayor himself over there. It's Jesse Friedman. Has anyone ever drank coffee on this show? I don't believe. I've drank coffee on a show before, but I think it was just a G-rated that I've done it. Listen, I'm tired, man. Yeah.

I am a sleepy little boy. There's some long nights. And I am. Yeah, Damon always drinks coffee. Apparently, I'm not on the show, according to Jesse. Because I drink coffee every fucking day. It's cold. It's great.

No, it's not really. This is real coffee. This is real hard. I just cured it right before. I can see steam coming out of the cup. Damon also just hit into my favorite bit that I do to Leah all the time, making her feel bad for not including me and like the the pH and X coyotes crew to now the point where I was like I would always she would always be like it's it's it's Craig and PD and me and I'd be like I'm here too

yeah he's also so now I get included in everything so keep it up there Damon and you won't be forgotten I'll make sure not to include you Damon plenty but of course one thing that we found out today is that the Arizona diembacks are going to include plenty of Zach Gallin and plenty of Merrill Kelly in their lineup for their final 16 games of the season maybe just their final 16. Maybe, maybe, maybe. Because it's going to be interesting to see how it plays out. Mike Fitzgerald confirmed on Luke and Wolf this morning that Zach Gall and Merrill Kelly will start eight of the team's final 16 games, including the next two games. So that would put Gallin starting on September 13th, at least based on our calculations, September 13th, September 19th, September 24th. And then in the finale there against the Houston Astros on September 29, not the final game, but the start of that series.

Kelly would then pitch every game after him, including tomorrow, then September 20th, September 25th, and September 30th. Interesting thing about that is that would make the two-game series with the Giants, I believe, Gowan and Kelly, which is a fairly important series. Yeah. We said it doesn't stack up well for the Cubs series here at home. No, Gowan, no Kelly in that series. But what are your thoughts specifically, Jesse, on how this is going to impact Gowan? and Kelly's availability in the playoffs. Yeah, it doesn't,

it doesn't line up great. If you, if you were curious what it would look like for the diamond backs to make the playoffs and have neither Zach Gallen nor Merrill Kelly available in game one, it looks like that's what you're going to see. That makes me sick to my stomach. Mr. Mantiply.

I already have anxiety about that. Why is that? Is that due to the, how soon after the final game? Because the final game is, essentially on what, October 1st of the season? Yeah, yeah.

So how soon after that do the playoffs start? Would that three-game wildcard series start on the second or the third? It would start on the third. Okay. So, yeah, with the way that things line up, you've got Zach Gallen pitching today. And what kind of messes with things

is that gallon pitches today on the 13th, but he's not able to pitch on the 18th because the debacks don't play that day. Right. He's going to have to pitch on five days rest and start on the 19th. And if you just work it out every five days from that point forward,

it lands with him starting on the 29th. And if he starts on the 29th, he can't pitch on the third unless he's on short rest, right? You would just have the 30th, the first, and the second as off day. So he would be on short rest if he were to pitch on in game one. And Merrill Kelly would be on even shorter rest. So the debacks, as things line up, the debacks would have Zach Gallen available in a game two

of a potential wild card round, and they would have Merrill Kelly available in a game three. they would not have either available in a game one, which you have to presume would be some kind of a, some kind of a bullpen game, right? Where the debacks just, you know, matchups the heck out of the thing and try to piece it together. No.

If they managed to win that first game with the bullpen game or however they managed to go over, then the debacks are in a great position because then if you either win game two and then you get to start presumably Merrill in game one of the next series or I guess then you go three games but then you have Meryl presumably again and a winner takes all game three.

I think I think that's if you're asking me frankly that's the silver lining is that I feel more comfortable about Kelly being in the finale should the Diamondbacks be able to you know I would argue split the first two games. More than Zach personally. I think I'd rather have Meryl more than anybody be in that last game.

I mean based on how he's pitched lately of how and I mean like it's going to be on the road. there's Zach start game one but it like I think I like the idea of Merrill being obviously since neither of them are going to start game one like I like Merrill coming second in that situation because I mean like realistically obviously losing game one could kind of ruin the whole series for you but like if the series is going three games regardless I would much rather have the bullpen game come in the first one the last one yeah so that's a that's a fair point silver lining I

guess that's a fair point well speaking of Zach Gallen for the first time this season, Zach Gallen is no longer the leader for MLB.com's Sy Young Award voting polls. So there's been four previous polls this season. Up to this point, Gallen was the NL leader in the previous four polls. He got the most votes. He got busted down to third in the latest polling. He did allow 11 runs over two starts on August 28th and September 3rd, which basically caused his ERA to skyrocket a bit. And it caused him. to kind of lose that stranglehold he's had all season long on that voting.

I believe Justin Steele now is the voting favorite, followed by Blake Snell, who just still walks a crazy amount of people, but it's just insane sometimes to look at Gallin's home versus away splits, and that factors into what you're talking about

as far as who you would prefer there in that final game. Gallin this season at home is 11 and 2 and 14 starts with a 2.18 ERA, a 0.9,7, one whip, a strike out to walk ratio of 7.64 and an opponent batting average of 220. His away stats, he is four and five and 16 starts. He has a 4.36 ERA.

He has a 1.186 whip. His strikeout to walk ratio, 3.52, half, half, more than half of what it is at home. And a 245 opponent batting average. So really, the batting average, I mean, that, changes a bit, but it's still, it's still nothing compared to the contrast of his ERA at home versus away, his whip and his walk to strikeout ratio. Yeah, it's going to be, it's going to be really interesting to see how the Cy Young race pans out. I know a lot of people, there have been a lot of articles written in the last few days, you know, with people kind of making their lists and, and talking

about how it certainly seems like it's going to go down to the final start of the year. It seems like none of these guys have a, have a significant advantage if they really have much an advantage at all. I still think Zach Allen is in this race just because of the innings, as we've talked about previously. And I mean, he's going to have more innings. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, if he goes like seven innings of start the rest of the way and four more starts, I mean, he's, you know, he's going to creep close to about 220 on the season. That's a pretty big number when no one else in the race, or at least no one else who really seems like they have a real shot at this point. Top three guys. He's even going to hit. Yeah. He's even going to hit 200.

So, I mean, Blake Snell averages less than five and two, innings per start. Justin Steele averages like six innings per start. Those are those are like kind of troubling numbers, right? For for Sy Young candidates who, you know, have good numbers elsewhere. I mean, they both have really, really good ERAs. That's, of course, where the big advantage for them lies. But innings have a lot of value, you know, them not going those extra 30 innings.

Those are innings that their bullpen has to cover it, you know, probably not nearly as high of a level as those pitchers would be able to. So there's a lot of value in the innings, and Zach Gallen has that advantage. She's at least close enough in ERA and WIP and some of the other categories to keep himself in the race at this point. I want to give a quick shout out to Tyler Hall. It is his birthday today. Happy birthday, Tyler. Thank you for joining us.

No, there's a lot of things you could be doing on your birthday. So sitting here listening to me be a gas bag is something that I truly appreciate. But the question remains in regards to Zach Gallen winning the Sye Young. Do we even want that? And I'm going to be really selfish here for a moment. Like I know Zach Gowan wants that. I know Zach Gowan at the end of the day wants to achieve all of his, all of the awards, all the goals.

He wants to win World Series. He wants to win a World Series here in Arizona. There's no doubt in my mind. And I'm sure very much so, knowing how competitive he is, that he absolutely wants to win this award. So there's no doubt. That's not the question here. Nor is it one of those things where he doesn't deserve it, nor is it one of those things that I don't want him to be happy and win all the awards. I just also want to be happy.

And I want Zach Gallen to stay here in the Valley. So it feels at times, like even though we're rooting him on for this award, that this award could potentially just be another thing that prohibits him from being able to stay here. Gallen is under contract until 2026. He's got two more arbitration eligible years in 2024 and 2025, which a Cy Young Award would essentially impact, right? I mean, if he wins a Cy Young Award, he's going to get paid more in arbitration. And that's going to be a good case for his side in order to get that more money.

But his Major League Baseball career earnings aren't very much. And I'm not going to say this from a perspective of a man that's ever earned anywhere close to this money. But including his $563,000 signing bonus that he got with the Cardinals, he's earned about $8.7 million in his career. Now, that's a lot of money. 7 more than I have. That is correct. That is correct.

But by comparison, right, Zach Gallen has been known for the last few seasons. It's one of the best pitchers or one of the better pitchers in baseball. By comparison, Justin Verlander and Max Scherzer are both getting paid each this season, $43.3 million for one year of playing baseball. That is a lot of money. Right. And the thing is, is that at the end of the day, Zach Gallen wants Justin Verlander and Max Scherzer's money. And I mean, the way that he's pitched.

you could argue that he deserves it. So Gallin will and should get paid when he is a free agent, which will almost likely eliminate the debacks from that equation. So really it feels like the only way they can get Zach Gallin to stay is to figure out some sort of contract extension, right? And I hate to say it, but Zach Gallen, just missing out on the Sight Young Award, that would be a good time to be like, hey, let's get that contract extension done. I just want him to stay in the valley.

But I feel like, again, that's one of the things about this award is it truly feels like, should he become a Cy Young award winner, that that is going to just kind of seal the fate that we only have, you know, two more seasons of Galen here and after this year. I want to believe that they can resign him no matter what. I know that might be a little naive. I would like to believe that.

I don't know. I, this is going to sound like, I want my guys win awards. Like I don't like, I can't concern myself that much with the future. Like I want that, you know, and get the credit he deserved.

I want the country to recognize that we have the best rookie in baseball. and the best pitcher in the all in the National League. Which is funny because that's why I feel differently. We have we have Corbyn under contract. So I'm like, give him all of the awards. I mean,

it obviously is very different in that regard. And obviously like this team doesn't directly gain something from him winning this award the way they do with the draft pick and Corbyn. But like yeah, I still, I don't know. I just like I feel like there's something about like the culture of the organization. Like you show with people that like we win over here.

Yeah. Like we've got like and we develop people into the best picture. So like I feel like there's value in that. Maybe not direct or like tangible value. But I don't know. And just as a fan, like I want to be able to tell everybody like we have the best picture. And we're going to have the best pitcher next year. Because ultimately if they win a World Series next year, I don't care if they're like obviously.

I would still want them to resign him. But it doesn't matter as much because they've got the ring. As much as I want it, it feels inevitable anyway, Jesse, right? Like Scott Boris being his agent doesn't typically sign contract extensions. It does not bode well. Marcus said in the chat his agent wants him to hit the open market and yeah I'm sure that's the case I'm sure Zach wants to hit the open market right so like for the most part it feels inconsequential as far as if he does or doesn't win this award impacting how long he's going to stay here but am I right in assuming that a Cy Young award for Zach Allen Allbut seals it considering what that would make his value at that point I don't know how much of a difference it makes honestly whether he finishes first or second or third or whatever it is the point is it's going to be really hard for the diamond backs to to then Zach Gallon at the end of the day.

Yeah. Maybe it has a marginal impact, and I agree it probably would make some difference in an arbitration hearing. You know, he'd probably make a little bit more money over the next couple of years, which of course impacts the Diamond Batson in some way, which he absolutely would deserve. I think it is a common misconception, though,

with Scott Boris that his clients never sign extensions. It is rare, but it has happened before. There have been, I believe, more position players than pitchers, but there have been a few pitchers. Someone asked a question about this

in my last mailbag story over at go p hnx.com so you can check out a more full fleshed out version of this over there. But three pitchers are notable who are Scott Boris clients and signed extensions. Jared Weaver with the Los Angeles Angels, who is

at one point a very, very good pitcher. Not so much toward the end of his career. That didn't end so well for the Angels. Lance McCuller's Jr. with the Houston Astros, Scott Boris client. And then of course, Stephen Strasbourg, the recently retired Stephen Strasbourg, a Scott Borence client who signed. Those are a great example.

Stephen Strasberg. I don't know. I mean, that was a little tough. I just think Scott Morris knows what he's doing. I was going to say. I think Scott Bors very much knows what it. It almost feels like now, like if that guy on size and extension, like, oh, God. Scott Moore.

What is Scott? No. There's an obvious connection, especially with with McCollers and with Strasbourg. where those are both very injury-prone pitchers, right? And Zach Gallen has not really been that. He had some roadblocks in 2021, including a little bit of a UCL scare at one point that happened just a couple years ago.

But, yeah, Lance McCullers, he was slated to hit free agency at age 28. He signed a five-year, $85 million extension with the Houston Astros. And then Steven Strasbourg also was slated to hit free agency at 28. and the Nats gave him seven years and $175 million. Of course, that contract has really turned disastrous for the nationals. So, yeah, it's tough. The odds are certainly not in the Diamondbacks favor. Those guys had some injury risk, and you have to figure that that had some part in Boris

and the player being, you know, interested in signing that extension. Zach Gallen will hit free agency a little bit later than those two examples. he'll be 30 rather than 28, which theoretically would lower the price tag. But he obviously has, at least at this point, considerably less injury risk than either of those guys. And he's also, Lance McCuller just isn't a great comparison because that gallon is just better than Lance McCuller's and significantly more established than Lance McCullors was at that point.

Yeah, correct. I feel like the important thing is like Boris isn't necessarily like morally against signing extensions. Like he obviously is trying to get his players to make the most money. And I mean like Not signing an extension is a risk for the player too Like if especially pitchers like if Knock on wood

But if something happens at Zach Gallin's elbow or something next year And then it's like well Bet you wish you signed that extension last year So and plus I mean based on like though I get one clip that we heard him talk about on the mookie bet's podcast But like it definitely seems like he likes being here It doesn't seem like he wants to necessarily He doesn't seem like he's kicking down the door to get out of Arizona

No not at all not at all I think if the money's right he'll stay here I think it ultimately is going to come down to Ken Kendrick. It's going to come down to money. You're going to have to pay the dude regardless. Like he's going to make a lot of money. He's going to have to pay him. It's going to be $200 million or more, you know,

depending on kind of what happens over the next couple of years. If he stays healthy and continues to pitch about as well as he is right now, it's, yeah, I think it's safe to say it's going to be 200 or more. Connor Cunningham in the chat says, I don't see why it matters if he takes one or third in Sigh Young. His value is what it is. Mad Bun coming off books soon, Ahmed money, et cetera. We have proven we will pay guys.

And that's a very good point. The Diamondbacks will pay guys. Yeah, usually it just seems to be the case that they're looking to pay guys from other teams, that big payday. Like they did with Madison, Bumgartner, like they kind of did with Granky that, you know, that it's not, you know, again, a guy like Gallen. But we haven't really had a guy like Gallen that was here. He kind of became a star here in this way. And now we want to keep him here besides Paul Goldschmidt. That's the one guy who was like that.

And obviously, that's the one that sticks out in a lot of people's minds that make us feel like this isn't going to happen. I'll say this too. He pitches better in Arizona. Like, as far as like, he's better here. We gave you the home away splits.

You want to have a 4.36. He's like he has a good relationship. Like Connor brought it up. The relationship with Stromy. Like, yeah. I feel like there's outside of him, I like apparently liking it here.

Like from a career perspective, there's a reason for him to want to stay here too. It's a great point. That's a great point. Speaking of a good career, having a good career here in Arizona, Tommy Pham has been really doing some good work here. In September, FAM is slashing. He's emotional.

He's always outrageous. In September, FAMM is slashing 298, 327, 596, with a 922 OPS, 3 home runs, 8 RBI, 8 extra base hits. And at 35 years old, Fam is the oldest player in the league. to still 19 or more bases this season. I feel like that's got to get the young guys juiced. Yeah. It's almost like when Christian Walker steals a base.

You're like you're not supposed to be able to do that. Yeah. Let's go. Yeah. It's incredible. Well, and there is an incredible article over at the athletic from Ken Rosenthal and Will Salman about Tommy fan that I think everybody that's a Diamondbacks fan should check out.

It details kind of his past and how like he's had some crazy things happen to him. and he kind of gets a bad rap, considering how many teams he's been on and a lot of what he's gone through in his career. But it details a lot about how intense of a teammate he is, how good of a teammate he is, how good of a locker room guy he is and how much people enjoy playing with him.

I think that it was Mike Hazen, who basically said that we don't really know the real Tommy fam. He said, whatever you think you know about Tommy fam, you don't. Yeah. That was the Mike Hazen. Yeah, that was a killer Mike Hayes and quote in this story. By the way, the title of the article is beyond the slap. And then I think it's that quote, which is a wild.

It's a wild title. But yeah, of course, right now, especially with Tommy Fam. Like, it's kind of crazy when an incident like that happens. We've joked about it at times and such. But it has kind of become the thing that Tommy Fam is known for instead of, you know, his play or his success as a ball player, things like that. obviously the incident that happened earlier, you know, in San Diego, that that's a, that's a thing that kind of people have been talking about when it comes to him. And, you know, again, uh, when I met Tommy fan for the first time when he joined the team,

he was very intense, but it was funny because in reading the article, the, the way people described him of being a very direct person that's, and, and, and that have that intensity. It's like, yeah, that's why our, our handshake was like that. It was electric. He like, you know, a lot of people just kind of like passively like hey how's it going like it's no big deal but you can tell maybe they didn't even register like he looked into my eyes and was like how's it going and like gave me a firm handshake and stuff so like i mean i love tommy fam and i'm i'm glad that he's part of this team but to read this article really did shed light on kind of who he is and and what he's kind of gone through in his career and honestly he he really is the kind of guy that

that brings the experience that most of the diamondbacks players don't have and i think that's what's the most valuable about him being here. Plus, he's been absolutely raking. So, I mean, as far as the slap goes, like, I think, A, we know that, like, no one is as, as, like, people are better than the worst moments. So there's that. Yeah. B, I think it clearly shows, I mean, for better or worse, it shows that this man is like,

if he's got a problem, he's going to handle it. Like, he's going to, he's not, like, if he's got something to say, he's got something to do, he's going to, like you said, it's going to be direct about it. You can't question his competitive fire either. when it comes in the form of slapping someone over fantasy football, that's a problem. But when it comes in the form of him being a leader in the clubhouse and like kind of and being whoever he is for this team, like it's good. I think it's something that the team needs, especially considering how young they were.

Like that's why you sign a guy like Evan Longoria for that veteran leadership. And I think fan provides that in a very different way than Evan Longoria. But it is like, and I've said before, like he gives it very much like Kauai Leonard energy. He has no, no frills. No, you don't see him laughing or. smiling or anything ever. Like he's here to take care of business. He's not,

and he's not wearing the flashy guards. Like we see some of the other guys that we very much enjoy. Yeah. I mean, we kind of put fun on them all the time for having the Franklin gloves and the basic black Adidas cleats. Like he's not, he's here to play baseball,

man. He's here to win baseball games. And I think this, this team might not that this team didn't have that before. Like everyone was here obviously to win baseball games. But I think he provides a certain amount of edge that you didn't get from the younger guys or like that's absolutely true. A lovable veteran like Evan Longoria.

Like he doesn't provide kind of that like you need to have a little bit of fear when you play this team in the way that Tommy Fam, I feel like, does. I love that there's a quote in here from Buck Showalter. There's honestly so many good quotes in this story from The Athletic. Bug Showalter said if you can't handle the truth, you can't handle him. Yeah. And that's my kind of guy. Yeah, it's this guy who is, who is by all indications, very, very direct, maybe even uncomfortably.

Almost motoristic. But to the point. where it's like, you know what, he's right. Like, you know, he's sort of just telling it like it is in a way that a lot of players seem to really like having, you know, having someone on their team who's willing to do that. Because you can't get that. Like in sports in general, you can't get that from coaches anymore because I think we've, we are at a point in sports where like new generation of athletes, they don't handle like

those straight up confrontational coaches. You need it to come from a peer, someone that you respect in that way. And I feel like, again, that's a kind of unique leadership that Tommy fan provides. He also is playing fantasy football with the Diamondbacks players. I believe Alec Thomas said that in a post-game interview the other day and talked about how they've been like giving him crap about it and the whole thing. So yeah, the fantasy football thing. Who was the one to be like, hey, Tommy?

You got a spot. Like four of them huddled in the corner? You ask them. No, you ask. Zifer brings up a great question. He says, do they keep them next year with all the outfielders they have? Tommy Fam is currently on a one year, six months. million dollar contract and no they're trading for mike trout remember they don't they're there they're

for a right-handed hitting outfielders are just saying crazy stuff well i mean i think from the for the most part i think that um they they might they might consider it i'd like it he is going to be like the problem there obviously is his age he's going to be you know 36 years old and yeah one of the older guys in the league at that point but again i i really don't care about age considering his production right now if he can if he can be this productive next season i think he could very very much be valuable and i would i would rather that they kept him over over other guys that they might consider keeping on another one-year deal well yeah that's the thing too like the outfield is not really where they need to be spending money this off season that's very true and so like obviously this we

we know live in a situation where there's no salary cap but there's a salary cap for this team like there's no unlimited amount of money that's going to spend um and so i like i mean for all the reason we just talked about and like he is going to be more cost effective than Mike Trout. Yeah. And pretty much everybody else that they could probably pursue. Exactly. So like more cost effective than Mike Trout. Tommy fan.

That's Tommy fan. Put it on a shirt. Yeah. Put it on a shirt. Like I would rather if you're giving out, if you're giving out like if you're passing on Tommy fan because you want to take some big swing at in the outfield like I would rather you do that with your pitching staff or. Yeah.

The feedbacks have bigger needs than in the outfield for sure. And Tommy fam is a guy who's. not likely to command an enormous salary. It's probably another one-year deal. And, you know, maybe you can get him for five or six million or something like that. And it is, it's very much a position that Diamondbacks have to fill. And I mean, he's a guy, like Derek alluded to earlier, has been on so many different teams. He might just kind of want to stay somewhere.

Yeah. Especially if the team's good. Yeah, for sure. It seems like a good fit right now. I mean, that article talks about him really enjoying, like, working with Dave McKay and the coaching staff. because again, it's hard at times to get guys to respect. You know, in Tommy's case, he might actually be working with a coach that's like his same age or even younger than him. And like, you know, it's different sometimes.

Like I've said that about, you know, Brent Strom with someone like Madison Bumgarner. You're making a lot of age comments today. Am I for all the conversation we had yesterday? Oh, was I not supposed to? Was I not supposed to attack other people on their age? I'm sorry. But no, I'm just saying, though, right? Like, I mean, there is something to be said about having respect or having somebody as wise as as Dave McKay to, you know, like they were going over like outpark, or ballpark dimensions and like going through the outfield and looking at just little ballpark factors and things like that.

Like it really does, like you said, it feels like this is a good situation for Tommy. He enjoys being here. And also, hopefully that makes sense for him. last few stops of his career in New York City and San Diego, California. Like there's and we've talked before, the Padres fans are, they bother me. Like there's a probably a different kind of, it played for the Cardinals, like a lack of pressure here that I think certain guys, not necessarily, not necessarily Tommy, but there obviously are certain guys who I think like the atmosphere that that playing in Arizona provides as opposed to playing at a place like New York or San Diego. Yeah, the, the fan of. environment is much different.

Yeah, and especially got like Tommy Fam, who, you know, obviously had his interactions with San Diego and appears to be a more low-key guy. Like, Arizona might just be the spot for him. You might be. Well, retire here, Tommy. Yeah. So we can retire your number. Hang out. He's ready to do it.

He's ready to. He's ready to build the statue. Right between 51 and 42. Yeah. Tom's right. Yeah. Well, we appreciate you guys being here right now on the PHAD exports YouTube channel. If you haven't subscribed to the channel yet, make sure to do so.

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And I don't think they're going anywhere. I don't even know if anybody is going to beat the Braves or stop the Braves. Like we can all have fun with this playoff's nonsense and the wild card. We can all do have our little, our little games. We can play have a little fun. It doesn't matter. The Braves are going to smash all of us, I feel like. Their magic number to clinch the NL East is down to two.

So and that's, you know, going to happen. Phillies there are not even close to them. But yeah, the Braves just have had a stranglehold on that top position, even when it looked like the Dodgers might come close. They smack them back down the power rankings. But they've hit 281 home runs as a team. They're just on a different tier than the rest of the diamond backs have hit like 150 something. That's just stupid.

The debacks have an above average offense and the Braves have hit almost twice as many home runs. Well, Matt Olson got the club record with 51 home runs, which is just madness in this modern day era of to have 51 home runs. I don't even feel like people are talking about it or acknowledging it enough because that man deserves his flowers. But the Tampa Bay raise come in at the number two team here, Jesse, overtaking the Baltimore Orioles. Those two swap spots. What's going on there with the race? You know,

just wanted to switch things up a little bit this week. There's no actual logic behind it. You know, just figure to little flop. Stop playing games with us. No, I mean, the race, the race have just continued to play really well.

And, I mean, the Orioles are also playing really well. But we're going to take a look at something kind of fun. a little bit later in the show, this altered standings where we look at this, what the standings would be if the results of every one run game was flipped around the other way.

It's an alternate timeline. And as you'll see when we get there in a few minutes, the Orioles have benefited quite a bit from one run games. They've won a lot of close games. The run differential is about 70 runs off of the raised run differential. And granted, the raise did a lot of that early in the season when they had a really easy schedule and they just absolutely trounced a bunch

of teams in the first couple months of the year. But I think I think that still has some weight that, you know, in the grand scheme of the season, even though the Orioles do have a better record by three games or so at this point. The race have outscored their opponents by about 70 more runs. So I still could go either way. I mean, they're both really good teams, but I decided to go with the raise at number two this week. All right. The raise also lost their all-star shortstop, but middle of the year and just didn't skip and it just doesn't yeah it doesn't Aaron Savali comes over from from Cleveland and has been really good for them they're just they're just a machine and it's it's just really hard to stop the raise right now

that's very true looking at the rest of the power rankings Astros come in at number four Dodgers at number five there's no change there the Rangers make the biggest leap of the week from not being ranked last week to jumping into the six spot here they are back in the second wild card spot or the third wild card spot They're in there in the second the Mariners and the Blue Jays are tied for the third Although they're both the Mariners and the Blue Jays are only half a game behind the Rangers That's how close things are but the Rangers did win right now they did win a lot in the last week and they rightfully so made this big leap Just scary there for a second yeah for the Rangers I was worried they weren't gonna

Make the playoffs which I mean they still might not yeah they still are like they're a half game there they're in it by a half game at this point You say scary. I say hilarious. So, I mean, our two things are different. Yeah, they're both.

Yeah, we got a core. We got, like you said, the Mariners and the Blue Js there at seventh and eighth. And then the Phillies at the top, wild card spot in the NL at 9th,

and the Brewers at 10th, which, of course, the Brewers would still remain a team that I do not want to encounter in the playoffs. I hope, I pray Mike Faron is right about that when it comes to the Brewers,

but who would you rather play in the playoffs? That's my thing. That's the Phillies. I'd rather play the Phillies. Oh, God. Thank you. Oh, God. You'd rather play the Phillies.

The World Series? The Brewers. You'd rather play the Phillies over the Brewers. Kyle's over five home runs in three games against the debas. No, thank you. I think I would rather play the Dodgers on the Phillies damn year. No, no. Phillies pitching staff hasn't been very good lately.

Brian, Brian Sitker, the manager of the Braves said yesterday that the Phillies scare him more than any team of the league. Yes. I think rankings of teams. I would like, obviously I don't want to play the Dodgers and Braves, but after that, I would, I would play literally any other team's baseball before I'm there. They're a sleeping giant waiting for the playoffs. Is that the idea there? A sleeping giant.

They're in a playoff spot. There's no sleeping giant. And we saw what they did last year. Bryce Harper lives for these moments. And Kyle Ford might be the greatest leadoff hitter of our home run hiter of all times. I thought you were about to say. Not that is a hot day. He can't do anything other than strike out or hit home runs.

But get me to one. war before we talk about the greatest leadoff hitter of all time. Not the greatest leadoff better than Ricky Henderson. No, but all that man does is strike out and hit home runs. The guys in the chat are bringing up that the Rangers did just lose Max Scherzer. Yeah, which I think came out a few minutes ago. That I don't believe had been announced when I was doing this earlier today. That maybe changes the calculus and maybe I'd bump the Rangers down a little bit given that news.

I mean, he hasn't been Scherzer hasn't quite been, you know, Keith Scherzer in his time with the Rangers, but that's still obviously a loss for them. Really, once you get past the top five, like in my mind, the Braves, Rays, Orioles, Astros, Dodgers, those are all clearly elite teams. Once you get past those five,

there's a lot of good teams and maybe even great teams, but it's really hard to figure out like, all right, are the Mariners better than the Blue Jays? Are the Phillies better than the Rangers? These are questions that really could go anyway at this point. A lot of it has to do with, you know, obviously what they've done this season, run differential, their difficulty of their, of their division.

I think, you know, what they have going on there in the Yale West is really interesting and fun. And I think that this has been one of the better years for not having teams really emerge. I mean, like I said earlier, I don't know if anybody's beating the brave. So it feels like they're kind of running away with it a little bit, but anybody can possibly, you know, make a splash get hot in the playoffs and even end even end their season so apparently it's quote unlikely that max scherzer pitches in the playoffs which to me screams max shorz is going to come in and shut down whether they're playing in game seven of the world series well he did exodus start versus toronto with a right tricep injury which we are now finding out is now a season ending injury another weird situation with the toronto blue jays with alec manoa who uh was set down uh and did not report to like triple a and It's just a sad situation because obviously he struggled this year performance-wise, but like I feel like he became a lot of people's favorite, you know, kind of All-Star just a year ago when he was shit talking in the middle of the World Series and letting the announcers pick which pitch he was going to throw in the All-Star game. In the World Series, sorry.

In the World Series, that would have been wild. That would have been the greatest thing in baseball. That would be the satchel page. Like, all the field there's in me. I got this. But, yeah, I mean, again. It's just, I think it's just obviously not a great situation, but it's an example of how quickly things can go south for a professional ball player.

Like this game is, it's a fickle game and you can go from being one of the elite to not even being a league average very quickly. Yeah, he was pitching a single A ball at one point this year. He was pitching in the rookie league. I mean, and the fact that he's not reporting to AAA shows that he's clearly not just like taking this in, stride. Yeah, well, apparently he wanted, he wanted a doctor to look at like his knee or something. There was some physical setback that at least, at least existed from his perspective. I don't know if him and the, if he and the team were quite on the same page with that. That's kind of how the story's been told, though.

Well, I hope things work out for him because he's a delightful personality. And yeah, it sucks to see something like that happen. I feel like it's not the same in other sports, not not to the same. agree. No. Like, do we see this in the NBA where like a guy goes from being like the star pitcher in the all-star game to just yeah not being able to really pitch in like you can't hit a three-pointer anymore. Yeah. Yeah. I mean obviously like NBA players get heard and you know sometimes that's like a big deterrent in their careers but there wasn't like a major injury here that's that's clearly you see guys. You see like insanity where guys are on fire and take over the world for like a couple

of weeks. Yeah. But to put together an all-star level season. He had a 2.24. YRA in almost 200 innings. He was their opening day starter. Yeah. Yeah, he was. And we are. Here we are. Well, on the opposite things and things. Yeah, Ben Simmons, but Ben Simmons was never like. Ben Simmons was never on the level.

One of the best players in basketball. Yeah. He just went from that level. I think Ben Simmons was the same level as Alec Minowah. I mean, there's a lot more baseball players than there are NBA players. But Alan Noah was like damn near Si Young level last year. Yeah. Ben Simmons was like a really good, a really good role player, right?

But yeah, he was like time All-Star. Yeah, he was good. I mean, he was obviously, he was really good. Now I have to look up Ben Simmons stats. I don't think he was. People were considering him to be like a future superstar face. Well, yeah, I mean, obviously when he was coming into the league, he was like, huge of LeBron.

He was on the Sixers. Yeah, but there was always like this guy can't shoot a basketball and he's going to have to figure that out. Even if Damon's right. I mean, and I'm saying, I'm in the unlikely event. The David is actually right. David knows what the hell he's talking about here. No,

I'm not saying you're not. I'm just saying like, they're still like, you had to find the one. Yeah, there aren't that many. Right. In major league baseball,

this just happens so often. And I mean, especially like even looking through like guys that won rookie of the year in the past and how many names those guys have just kind of faded into obscurity. Carlin can't break a major league roster now. Yeah,

right. And he won rookie to the year. And like, obviously there's a good reason why his career changed. at the same time. Yeah, with him, there's a significant injury there. Pete Crow Armstrong, though, did make his debut for the Cubs, by the way, just on the opposite. Michael Carter, Williams.

Rookie of the year, and then he disappeared for the rest of his career. There we go. There you go. That's a good one, too. Well, let's hope that doesn't happen with PCA here, but he's flashed some great leather in incredible defense there in his second game for the Cubs. So, again, another fun story, another young guy. I feel like rookies this season are just absolutely becoming stars. I just don't know if I've ever really seen that in baseball before where there was this many new faces.

Maybe, just maybe it's due to keeping track more because of Corby and Carroll. But it feels like all of these guys are coming up this year and just becoming stars. We talked about Ronnie Maricio yesterday, Ellie Dela Cruz, Matt McLean, obviously, James Outman, who I'm sorry, Damon. I even had to bring his name up. Francisco Alvarez and Cote Isinga. Yeah. Yeah. The kid for the Yankees. The Martian Jason Dominguez.

Yeah. Jason Dominguez. And I mean, they had Volpey earlier this year. Yeah. There's been a lot of big names. And then I mean, even like from like a star perspective, like you look at like the shortstop. Like Dan v. Swanson and Nico Horner like that middle infield had been incredible. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. And nowhere. Like, yeah. It's been a lot of a little bit. I mean, obviously you still have like Ronald Cunia winning. And competing with Mookie Betts for the MVP, but like, I feel like there's this I've been saying I knew from the moment the world baseball And we were the way it did that we were going to be in for a hell of a season of baseball It has been a hell of a season of baseball. Yeah, it's been a lot of fun.

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Jesse alluded to it earlier, but there is this alternate timeline coming to us from our friends of talking baseball. They posted a standings which basically show what everything would look like if the result of every one run game in baseball was flipped.

So let's take a look at that. It's amazing. It's a little small. But the one thing that really stands out to me is that the Arizona Diamondbacks really would just be in the exact same spot that they're in, if not a slightly worse position that they're currently in. But sticks out to me as the Yankees are at least clutch franchise in the history of baseball. Yeah. Yeah. That's also true. That's also true. I mean, they literally are going from the bottom of the division to second place. Yeah. With the switch of those games. And I mean, they are pretty on clutch. May I return your memories to 2001.

I just like it's interesting because I mean there's some divisions that are greatly impacted and then some divisions that appear to be essentially exactly the same the Miami Marlins just completely fall out of the playoff picture though if this is the case which is absolutely hilarious the Cardinals are who we thought they were the Cardinals are exactly who we thought they were hilarious they are who we thought they were yeah Padres are six and 22 this year and one right that is absurd oh my God So this is flipping it around 22 and 6. Which is crazy. That's a pretty huge difference. The Padres have a closer. So it's not like they were, it's not like they're the diamond backs where they like, ah, they're blowing games late.

Like they have a good closer. I think that's kind of a misconception that like your record in one run games. Well, no. Yeah, I know that. But I'm just saying for it to be that egregious. Like you would like having a closer should make it should limit some of those. Yeah. You would.

Yeah. It seems very unlikely that that could ever happen for. really any team on the and they have it's especially the Padres they have tons of guys who should be able to deliver clutch hits in big moments that just especially early in the season that just didn't happen like yeah Audrey's were like historically bad with runners in scoring position for the first couple months of the year and imagine being bad with runners in scoring position it's going to be well and I mean like Baltimore Orioles they take a their their seasons completely different they're 26 and 12 in one run games which I mean that around that's a big these are you get you're just

to the playoffs, take a look at the, like, this is not sustainable. Like being, like, those teams that are having that big of jumps, like, well, Felix Batista was a big reason why the Baltimore Orioles were able to win so many of those one-run games, right? You call him King Felix? Yeah, he keeps doing that. Well, it's just cannot call Felix.

No, there's a back story. There's a backstory. So they call him King Felix in Baltimore sometimes. And some, I have heard that. piece of shit, a radio guy from Seattle or something like that at the All-Star game came up to him and like confronted him about it. It was basically like stop using the nickname, even though he has no, like, he doesn't call himself that. And he just called him over and like made him feel bad about it on camera. When Felix had nothing to do with it.

So then he and Sean decided that I'm going to call it King Felix from now on just to spite that guy. And so yeah, he's King Felix now. I think that you're, I think your reasoning is deeply flawed. But that's not. No, there is no, I understand that, I mean, that sounds like a bad thing than that guy did. But there is just no. No, he's not King Felix. There's no reasonable, yeah, you just can't do that.

I agreed with the radio guy in theory, like calling him King Felix is absurd. You can't do that. But you also can. But you can't also call a player over and scold him. Who had nothing to do with the fact that the social media calling him Kingfield. It's pushing back on someone being an asshole. Yeah, that's what it is. I don't.

That's fair. This has nothing to do with Felix Hernandez. He is King Felix. But, you know, there's been multiple kings in history. There's been multiple King Georges. Multiple King Henry's, right? He's just King Felix a second. Anyway, speaking of teams that aren't kings are no longer kings,

we have an update for you on teams that have been eliminated from playoff contention. This is different, obviously, than winning the division, because these are the teams that are officially, officially out of it. In the AL, it is the Chicago White Sox, the Oakland Athletics and the Kansas City Royals. And the Yankees aren't eliminated. They're not eliminated yet, but they will be so. They're not eliminated from the division.

The division. Yeah, there's been a lot of division teams being eliminated from the division. Your Red Sox are also eliminated from your division. But those are teams. The playoffs yet, though. Yeah, those are teams that have been eliminated from all playoff contention in the National League, only one team. The Red Sox and the Yankees have like the exact same record.

And Sean's over here talking about them. Like the Yankees are like 44 and 100. like the royals. There's a difference. There's a different. We don't have Gary motherfucking cold. Okay. It's a battle of good and evil.

There is a difference. That team was supposed to be good. The Red Sox weren't supposed to be good. That's fair. That's fair. Yeah, that's, I don't know.

I do think, Derek, I'm kind of questioning if it makes you a bad person that you just like put it on our rundown to just like hate on all the, like give a shout out

to all the teams that have been eliminated. Yeah, I did. Shoutouts to the Colorado Rockies for being the only team in the team National League for eliminated. So good job, DMBR. Let's take a look at those all city standings while we're here, shall we?

Yeah, let's put some ease by those names. Can we get some ease? Yeah, we need ease on there. But I still don't feel good about being three and a half back now in this division. Things were much different before these Phillies came along. But yeah, the Diamondbacks still, come on, we still have something to play for here. This is the most important division. This is all the Dbacks have to play for.

This is what matters to us. This is what we care about. It was last year. Yeah, it was. It's all we had to play for. But let's take a look at the actual wildcard standing, shall we? Because, of course, All-City also runs the wild card right now. We got the Phillies, Cubs, and the D-backs.

Reds won yesterday, so they managed to squeak in there and get one game back. But still, the Diamondbacks doing okay. Like I said, if they can manage to at least split this series with the Mets and win at home against the Cubs, I think things look pretty good from there. Gallin and Kelly though That's gonna still It's gonna be interesting how it stacks up and how it plays out plays out if they do make the playoffs Yeah, I mean the D-backs like we said at the top of the show

They've got eight more games this year with either Zach Gallen or Merrill Kelly on the mound and they have eight games without either Zach Gallen or Merrill Kelly on the mound Right So you want to maximize those eight games where those two guys are out there I don't know if you necessarily want to put like a number on it like oh they have to they have to go six and two or something in those games but You would think they have, I mean, they need to be over 500. And yeah, like six and two sounds a lot better than five and three in those games. And I mean, that's what they have the next two days with the Mets. So I don't know if you're feeling great necessarily with a split here against the New York Mets,

knowing that you have those two guys going in this series and you don't have either of them going this weekend. Brandon Stevens in the chat asked where my hat yesterday came from. I believe that's from fanatics. But don't let Max hear me say that. But yeah, I mean, obviously, it's a good problem to have if the Diamondbacks make the playoffs to figure out how they're going to stack their starting rotation. That means things have gone well for them this season. I mean, again, that's the ultimate at this point. That's just the ultimate finish line is for them to get in.

Right. Even if things don't work out, you just still got to celebrate the fact that they have made, they're better. Ever since that disastrous season in 2021, they've managed to climb their way out of, you know, that's a situation. situation and get back to this get back to being this good of a team problem to have yeah i'd much rather than throw jesse out there to pitch game one of the wild card than them not make the wild card i bet jesse has a good breaking ball i can see it yeah you just had to like take that opportunity to hate on my pitch you haven't even seen me throw a baseball i wasn't trying to i don't know put any one of us i guess you were saying you would you would i would rather i would yeah i guess you

were talking up my pitch and i was that's fair you have a fresh arm you don't have many in it look at this point We'd rather take the devil we don't know anyway. Rather than the devil we do know, right. Connor and Michael make an interesting point in the chat. Oh, yeah. I was going to address that. Yeah, like, do the Phillies really deserve to have like their current season record in the All-City standings?

That's a fair point. We could just make the Phillies 0-1 because they lost their first game. Yeah, like the way the stats reset for a player when they come over to the new team. Yeah, the Phillies are 0-1 so they'd be at the bottom. Sorry. Yeah, I mean, that's good luck working your eyes. a good idea. They're going to have like a crazy win percentage if they

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Game three of the NLDS would be the first role. Don't even get me started beyond this three games series of the wild card. That makes me even more worried. It's the first chance we'd have to play a playoff game at home. All right. Well, I'm for it. I'm all for playoff games.

They might not have, they might not have either Merrill or Zat. Like if they got to the NLDS. Like in games one and two. Yeah, like they might have to piece together two games. Well, we'll cross that bridge and get there. Again, it'll be a great problem to have. should we have to experience it, figure it out.

We are going to be, there's going to be a situation where Zach Davies is pitching in like game one of a series in the postseason and we're all going to be upset about it. And we're going to be like, remember, we could be at home not playing baseball right now. That's a great point. That's a great point.

Sean, you are, I think you are right, though, that, yeah, I mean, like a game three of an NLDS. That would be the first, the first opportunity the DBA actually have to play a home play. Which potentially could be a, depending on how the first two games go, either a clinching or a winner go home, right?

Because the DLS will be five games, no? Yeah. Yeah. This is, this all seems too early to be talking about any of this. Yeah, that's crazy. I think about,

yeah, we should, so if they made it to the World Series, who would be available in game one? I can't wait for, celebrate the Diamondbacks World Series victory with a kill lifter. Five inning, like relief appearance to win game seven.

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We could just catch Philly and play the wild card here. Yeah. That's true. I mean, the door is technically still still open. I swear to God, if that happens, we better play Philly and not Chicago because I don't know how those snowbirds are down.

It wasn't cheap for the snowbirds to get down here. They have the money to pay for playoff. I remember I attended a Diamondbacks Cubs playoff game in I think it was 2007. Oh, wow. Diamondbacks played the Cubs in the NLDS. And I think, I think they do a pretty good job of making,

it so that I don't know how they do it honestly but I think it's it's vast majority Diamondbacks fans at playoff games generally from from my experience growing up see a lot of teams that do like the zip code thing yeah right it's a little different here because yeah they live here yeah they live here yeah they're in Gilbert they are in surprise all right well that's all we got right now of course make sure to follow us on social media I am at Kapp underscore caveman with a K. This maniac next to me, Sean, he is at Sean

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