PHNX Arizona Diamondbacks Podcast - Ketel Marte among several Diamondbacks players snubbed in All-Star Game voting

Episode Date: July 3, 2023

Diamondbacks second baseman Ketel Marte was left off the NL All-Star team, as were Christian Walker, Merrill Kelly and Geraldo Perdomo. Meanwhile, the D-backs took 2 of 3 from Shohei Ohtani and the Los Angeles Angels, bolstered by excellent starts from Tommy Henry and Ryne Nelson. We also discuss your Mailbag Monday questions on looming roster decisions, the possibility of trading for Max Scherzer and much more.An ALLCITY Network ProductionSUBSCRIBE to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/phnx_youtubeALL THINGS PHNX: http://linktr.ee/phnxsports PHNX Events: Get your tickets to D-backs Takeovers, Knockout Nights & Suns Watch Parties at BetMGM, and MORE here: https://www.eventbrite.com/o/phnx-56002330273 Go to https://birddogs.com/PHNX or enter promo code PHNX for a free Yeti style tumbler with your order.Go to https://saturdayneon.com and use code PHNX for 10% off your order today. Free shipping for orders over $200!Gametime: Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code PHNX for $20 off your first purchase.Pins & Aces: Check out https://pinsandaces.com and use code PHNX to receive 15% off your first order and get free shipping.Circle K: Text PHNX to 31310 to join the Circle K SMS subscriber club and get BOGO 32 oz Polar Pops! Head to https://www.circlek.com/store-locator to find Circle Ks near you!OGeez!: Learn more about OGeez! at https://ogeezbrands.com//. Must be 21 years or older to purchase.Four Peaks: Follow them on social @fourpeaksbrew & @fourpeakspub! Must be 21+. Enjoy responsibly. When you shop through links in the description, we may earn affiliate commissions. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome in to the PHNX D-BACs podcast. My name is Jesse Friedman. I am the vice mayor of PH&X. And today I am joined not by the former mayor of PH&X Derek Monta. He is off doing something today. We never really know where Derek is when he's off. But we have Mr. Electric Sean to pause back on the show. Sean, I know you were hard at work in Nashville covering the NHL draft last week. Yes, sir. So welcome, welcome back. Thank you. Thank you. D-backs doing not too bad in my absence. I didn't want to say I was rooting for them to lose, but it's, it would have been nice to know that I was like kind of a good luck charm. But I guess they, I guess it's not too bad that they're doing all right without me. I guess I guess that's acceptable. Sure. We'll take that. The Diamondbacks did take two out of three from the Los Angeles Angels over the weekend. We'll get into. to more of that series here momentarily. But first, Sean, what I think is on everyone's minds right now in the Diamondbacks universe is All-Star voting yesterday. Sunday was the big day where Major League Baseball announced the full rosters for

the MLB All-Star game, which is now just a little bit over a week away happening in Seattle next Tuesday. And Sean, it wasn't great for the Arizona Diamondbacks. I guess it was good from Lordus Gurriel's standpoint. The guy that we talked about is probably not deserving the All-Star nod at this point. But, yeah, outside of Lordus Guriel making it, the Diamondbacks did get Zach Gallen in there. Corbin Carroll, of course, who've already talked about him. He made it as a starter.

The debacks just have those three representatives. Of course, several guys left off the list. Geraldo Pardomo is the guy we've talked about Christian Walker, Merrill Kelly, and probably most notably, Ketel Marte left off of the N. all-star roster. Yeah, I mean, I was talking about this a little bit on bets. It's hard, especially considering where the team was last year to sit here and want to complain about having three all-stars and feeling like you were snowed.

But at the end of the day, it does kind of feel like there were with a team as good as the Arizona Diamondbacks, they should have had maybe a little bit more representation, like a team like the Braves. I understand that it's an all-star game and it's for the fans and you want to put the stars in it. but I don't know, like, this is how you make stars. You put them in the All-Star game. This is why it's kind of like a self-fulfilling prophecy if you look at it like that. So I definitely feel like specifically like you mentioned, can tell.

It's definitely a weird feeling because I didn't expect Lordus to be there at all. So to have someone that was unexpected is nice, I guess. But still, at the other day, it is a little bit of a left, a little bit. little bit of a weird taste of my mouth. Yeah, and I think, you know, if, if there was, you know, two second basemen in the National League that were clearly in front of Catel Marte, that would be one thing. But that was not really the case. I think everyone knew that Luis Arisei-Raise deserved to start.

But Ozzy Albies against Catel Marte, Sean. I know we have a graphic that shows those two guys in their stats this season. I tweeted about it yesterday. Looking at these numbers, Sean, a little hard to me. make the case for Ozzy Alves. You see Ozzy Albies this was entering yesterday. Albies was at 259, 311, 500

for his slash line. Ketel Martay at 289, 369, 508. So it could tell better across the board. Ketel is a 136 WRC plus compared to 112 for Ozzy Albies. Some of the counting numbers are pretty comparable. Obviously Albies has had no shortage of RBI opportunities

being in that Atlanta Braves lineup. But you know, you look at winds above replacement, Catea entering yesterday at 2.3 compared to Ozzie Albies at 1.8. Frankly, Sean, looking at these numbers, there's really just no case to be made that Ozzy Albies should have made it over Catell. And I think that's what Diamondbacks fans understandably are most frustrated over right now. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't know. You look at it from basically any perspective outside of a popularity contest.

Ctele Martay should be in this all-star game over Ozzie Lvies. I mean, even I think when you look at it from a perspective of, like, value to the team, Catell wins in that regard, too, even if you look at it from kind of a more intangible perspective. So I, it is definitely, I think, like I was saying, unless a weird leaves a weird taste in your mouth. And this is ultimately the biggest reason why, because especially when you consider kind of what Catele-Marté went through last year, you would like to see him be rewarded for having this great of a season. And even it's, I mean, it's a great season in a vacuum, but especially in that context. You would like to see him be rewarded.

And he was not. And that is, and it does just feel like he wasn't because he plays in Arizona. And Ozzy Albies plays in Atlanta. And that's unfortunate. Diamondbacks manager, Tori Lavello, did speak on this after the game yesterday, after the DEVX got the news and said, yeah, it's frustrating. I think Tori also pointed out that the timing of the vote might have, might have been a factor in this. I believe players cast their votes a week or two ago, and Kattel obviously has been on a tear here over the last seven to ten days.

And so, you know, maybe some of that that wasn't factored in. Brady said in the comments, there is a rule that every team gets one player. This is true. There should also be a rule to limit the number a team gets. It's an interesting suggestion. I believe the Atlanta Braves have eight,

which is just comical and kind of, kind of ridiculous. It is basically almost their entire story. starting lineup is in the all-star game which is which is really crazy um i will say it is crazy when you look at in the american league and you have at least the braves are like the best team in baseball or at least the national league like in the american league there is a bunch of blue jays and that team has not been i mean it's the a l least they all are kind of good but they have not been that great um and if i'm in the al if i'm i don't know wander franco i am definitely sick to my stomach

over what's happening over there, but I guess that's not really our problem. Yeah, we'll get into some more snubs around the league a little bit later in the show. But the Diamondbacks were probably a little bit hurt also by the fact that every team does get a representative automatically that came into play. I think specifically at first base where Christian Walker was not named an All-Star and Pete Alonzo of the New York Mets was named an All-Star. Obviously, it has not been a great season for the New York Mets. and they needed someone in the game.

It wasn't going to be Max Scherzer or it wasn't going to be Justin Verlander. It wasn't going to be Francisco Indoor, even though he was one of the finalists going into Phase 2 to start in the All-Star game. I guess Pete Alonzo makes sense as being their representative. But comparing the numbers, we could have made a similar graphic with Christian Walker and Pete Alonzo. There's really no comparison there either. Other guys that come to mind, Geraldo Pardomo, we talked about him the other day. and how he probably, he arguably deserved to start in the game over Orlando Arcia. If you compare numbers from those two guys, I think there's a pretty strong case that Perdomo

came out better there, higher and wins above replacement, higher and pretty much all of the offensive metrics as well. Of course, Danesby Swanson of the Chicago Cubs was instead named the backup at shortstop. So I don't know, Sean, outside of Cattel, which I think is clearly the most egregious, the most egregious move here, which of these other guys not making the team is most disappointing to you? I mean,

the Christian Walker definitely hurts because I feel like it seems like he is just kind of perpetually underrated. I mean, like you said, it kind of makes sense that because everyone has to have a representative, that Pete Alonzo is that representative, especially with him competing in the home run derby

and him always being in the home run derby. just he's just a bigger star than Christian Walker. But Christian, especially, and I know defense doesn't get you into all-star games, but we consider how good he is defensively and how important he is and productive he is offensively. He is a kind of guy that feels like he deserves it. But then outside of that, I mean, Perdomo, that one just hurts because it's a guy that you didn't see coming at all and you feel like there's this young guy who just kind of

first son of the scene, he definitely feels like he should be rewarded for the just massive leaf he's taken from last year to this year. But that one, I guess, it makes a little more sense because before this year, there was not a lot of reason for your casual fan to really know who Hara Prudoma was in the way that they should have known who Christian Walker was, I guess. Yeah, it's always kind of a battle, it seems, for the Diamondbacks when it comes to all-star voting. it's generally felt in years past. They were maybe a little bit underrepresented. Obviously, last year was not one of those years with Joe Man to fly making the team.

But yeah, the Diamondbacks, you know, I'm sure fans have certainly experienced this before. And it just kind of brought back to mind, yes, even though the Diamondbacks are playing extremely well. And they have the second best record in the National League and all this stuff. There is maybe some level of disrespect, some level of just not getting the flowers around the league that they probably deserve. Switching gears over to that series, the Diamondbacks played with the Angels over the weekend. We can take a look at the numbers from that series.

The Diamondbacks dropped the finale yesterday with Zach Gallin on the mound. Gallen pitched well, but also not. He had tied a season high with 12 strikeouts and allowed four runs in the game. So a bit of a weird one for him. But as you can see here, the Diamondbacks, I think pretty clearly outplayed the Angels in this series. And they were able to take two out of three overall. So, Sean, all in all, I think you'll take that on the road against a pretty good Angels team.

Yeah, 100%. I mean, this is not your two years ago or even last year's Angels. So this team has been playing pretty good baseball so far this year. And especially when you consider who the, I mean, when you consider who the, where the, where the wins came from in this series and who was on the mound in those wins. Like that is a comforting feeling, seeing, you know, Ryan Nelson and Tommy Henry have pretty good outings.

And I guess if you want someone to have a bad outing, it's sat galen because you can always trust that he's going to rebound if you want to look at it like that. But so in order for them to be able to get two wins, with those guys on the mound. And as you can see with these numbers, it's pretty dominant fashion. I mean, it's not like the Angels necessarily had a bad series,

but the DeBacks just had a better one. And to see that is definitely a good feeling. Like when I said, the Angels have been playing decent baseball so far this year. They really have, yeah, which is something we're not really used to. the same, right? The Angels are like, they're actually, they're in the mix, right?

They're actually a potential playoff team out in the, out in the AOS. But yeah, the story in this series for me, as you alluded to, was absolutely Tommy Henry and Ryan Nelson going out and doing what they did. These weren't just good starts, John. I mean, these were, these were pretty dominant starts. I mean, Tommy Henry on Friday, five and two thirds innings, four hits, one run, two walks, eight strikeouts in the game. We don't generally see Tommy Henry push a,

of four or five strikeouts. So eight in the game. A pretty big number for him. And then Ryan Nelson followed that up on Saturday. Seven in a third innings for Ryan Nelson. Only three hits. One run, one walk, six strikeouts in that game. You only had 84 pitches at that point in the game too.

Very well could have stuck it out and tried to finish the eighth inning. And as you said, you know, you're not going to be concerned about Zach Allen giving up four runs and a couple of home runs. You know that he's going to be good. he's an all-star. He's someone you trust moving forward. But this is a pretty big development for the Diamondbacks, what Tommy Henry and Ryan Nelson have been able to do, right?

For Tommy Henry, this is really his third consecutive, pretty darn good start. He has a sub-2 ERA over his last three starts combined. Ryan Nelson, this was his second consecutive, a pretty solid start for the Diamondbacks. And then, of course, even Zach Davies, his last time out against the Tampa Bay raise, really turned things around in a big way. suddenly, Sean, you look at this rotation and Gallen and, you know, when when Merrill Kelly was last on the mound,

those guys have actually been struggling a little bit recently. Whereas the rest of these guys have really turned it around in a big way. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's definitely odd because does any of this make me feel like really any different about what the debacks need to do with the deadline? Not really. But it is a nice feeling to see that these guys are not a complete, like, liability like they we might have thought they might have been at different points in the year

um and i mean what the reality is once you get to the playoffs all rules are off like no one is a reliever no one's a starter um so if you have these guys pitching good pitching well and you're able to acquire even more higher quality starting arms before the deadline then you have just a whole bunch of tools at your disposal for the for the playoffs and then that's a really good feeling to have it doesn't even really matter who who is supposed to be what i guess at that point i'm just really distracted right now about your cat probably right in the background very very adorable uh yeah i i mean that was sort of my next question is do you know do we feel that with how good those guys have looked recently do the diamond backs not necessarily need to add a starter at the trade deadline is

it more the bullpen that that you know needs improvement it's a tough question to answer because in in some ways if the debacks were to bring in a starter right now who would you replace you know if if zack davies continues to be all right and you know Tommy henry and Ryan nelson continue to be all right there isn't really an obvious candidate to remove from the rotation obviously maryl Kelly is on the injured list right now so they're they're rolling with a four-man rotation at the moment they have a spot for the moment but once Merrill Kelly comes back there There isn't necessarily a clear, a clear spot that you would, you know, a clear guy that you would want to remove from this rotation in order to go a different direction.

So, uh, my inkling, Sean, is that you probably still would want to add a starter that, you know, Tommy Henry and Ryan Nelson are young and it's great that they're doing what they're doing, but you kind of feel like it would sort itself out if the debacks were to bring in another veteran arm, you know, a true number three starter type and go from there. Yeah. I mean, we saw, I don't know if, I can't remember if we've seen it more than once, but I know we've at least seen it once. We saw Tommy Henry come out of the bullpen at one point earlier this season.

And so if you get another arm, I think at that point with these, especially the two young guys and Ryan Nelson and Tommy Henry, you can be pretty flexible with what you end up doing with them, whether that's, I mean, maybe turning one of that, maybe using them kind of together, turning one more and do an opener and using another one out of the pen, type of thing. Like, however you want to do manage that. I think I don't, I'm not worried that they could figure out a way if they were to acquire another starting pitcher at the deadline. It does seem a little crazy to be like, oh, the debacks don't need a starter because

they've gotten, you know, like two good starts. Two good. Yeah. I think we're, you know, we're maybe conditioned a little bit of a lower bar for those guys based on how they've performed up to this point in the season. elsewhere in that Angels D-back series, Shohei Otani and Mike Trout had a couple of pretty fascinating series against the Diamondbacks.

Otani was only two for 10 in the series. The debacks sort of held him at bay. But those two hits were both home runs. And one of them was, I believe, 493 feet, which is the longest home run in baseball this season. And then he got Kyle Nelson in the Sunday game, for I believe that was 454 feet. So a couple of a couple of tape measure shots.

for show aetani in the series. Mike Trout also kind of an interesting series, three for 11, so decent production from him, but he had seven strikeouts. Diamondbacks really were able to get to him. Both Zach Gallen and Ryan Nelson were really having their way with Mike Trout in those games, but of course Trout did hit a home run of his own.

So I don't know, Sean, five for 21 with three homers between those two guys. I guess you kind of feel like you took care of business there. Yeah, I mean, giving up two home runs to Shohei Otani in the series is at this point almost feels like, oh, you got off lucky. Yeah. I mean, he's on, he's literally on a record pace. Like he's,

Aaron Judge got a record for a year and now Shohei is on track to break that. So like that, that's whatever. I think when you, when you're looking at making those two guys swing and miss or not just swing and miss, but just strike out as much as they did, that is that is a max of victory you'll take that any day of the week especially when it is leading to wins i think showy otani slugged like 950 in the month of june he had a just

absolutely ridiculous month of june uh looking at the comments here connor said is there any concern about gallon he really hasn't been great in a few weeks now uh it's a fair point he's definitely taken a bit of a step back i would say pretty minimal concern there his stuff was up yesterday. He was throwing some 95s and 96s against the Angels in that game, 12 strikeouts. And honestly, you know, his biggest mistake, I guess from a result standpoint, the pitch to Mickey Moniac that went for a three run homer, to go back and look at that pitch, it was a curve ball, maybe a little bit higher than he would have wanted it to be, but not really alarming. The one thing I will say about Gallen is that he really hasn't had a change up in a long time.

He just has not had a feel for that pitch in a pretty long time at this point. The curveball has been a little bit hit or miss. The cutter slider, he's kind of backed off of it. That pitch also was hit for a home run. I believe that's the Mike Trout Homer. So, yeah, the secondaries haven't been as good for him recently. But, Sean, it's just hard to really feel too concerned about Gowan when, you know, 12 strikeouts and his VLOs up.

And I don't think there's really any concerns there. Yeah, I mean, that was the thing is even I had. I tweeted jokingly on Twitter yesterday in the middle of Zach Allen's performance that he was on, he was looking to show up Shohei Otani and put in like a record performance and a loss because at one point he was literally just striking out everybody at the beginning of that game. So yeah, it's hard to be too concerned. But like, again, he's still an all star. He's still probably the best pitcher of the National League, if not one of them.

Like it's, again, it's better this than to have all the guys at the back of the rotation. and struggling and kind of wondering where do you go from here? Like it's not like he is really throwing into question what you have to do with the deadline or throwing into question the viability of this team or this rotation or whatever. Like you can trust Zach Gallen regardless of how he's been performing recently. And that's a good feeling to have. Yeah, I mean, you'd rather have like mid two ERA Zach Allen than low three ERA Zach Allen. Yeah, 100%.

At the end of the day, you know, you're not concerned at all about him moving forward. Something that was hilarious that happened over the weekend. arguably the biggest storyline of the weekend for us, Sean. It's a little moment that happened in Friday's game, which was an Apple TV Plus broadcasted game. You couldn't watch this on Valley Sports, Arizona. A sideline reporter doing that game for Apple TV Plus said something that was just absolutely hilarious.

It was arguably the greatest moment in the history of this podcast, maybe the history of PH&X in general. I would argue, yes. Heidi Watney went on the mic and told the story of she was talking about Lordus Gurriel's hair, which of course would be a big topic of conversation, any national broadcast with the Diamondbacks. But she pointed out how, you know, the city is getting behind the Diamondbacks and Lordus Gueriel. And she told the story of how Phoenix Mayor Derek Montia even died his hair purple after the Diamondbacks posted a winning record in April. And apparently there was a misunderstanding there, Sean, because Derek is.

is not in fact the mayor of Phoenix, no matter what he would try to have you believe. He is the self-declared mayor of page next. And even that isn't really true right now based on the deal that we made with the Sun Devils crew in order to bring you over here, Sean. So either way, an absolutely hilarious moment that I don't think any of us are going to forget anytime soon.

Yeah, still very appreciative of the sacrifice, by the way. But yeah, very unfortunate for Kate Gallego. know, she kind of just in the course of one broadcast got her job taken. But yeah, no, that was genuinely one of the craziest things ever. Like that is Apple TV. That's a national broadcast. And Derek Montia, who, I mean, just it's the mayor of P.HNX getting referred to as the mayor of the actual city of Phoenix is one of the craziest things. It's genuinely one of the craziest things I've ever had happened at this job.

It was, it was so funny. waiting for her to like, I don't know, make it sound like some sort of a joke or something. Yeah, correct herself. No. She was dead serious. She just, she just rolled with it. She somehow thought that Derek was the mayor of Phoenix. Absolutely outstanding. Speaking of outstanding, we have some outstanding things for you over at the BetMGM Sportsbook app. You all should absolutely get in on that if you have not already. Starting Friday, June 23rd, but MGM players will receive a bonus bet upon login to the MGM. the BetMGM sports book every Friday for the next three weeks.

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Yes, that is correct, Brian. He actually, he has some mayoral duties to attend to you. He has roads to fix. A city council meeting. Yeah, yeah, city council meeting to attend. So we're told he'll be back on Wednesday. We'll see if he's able to make time for us then. Moving on here to our next segment.

Of course, it is Monday here on the PH&XD back show. And of course, every day is Earth Day here on the show. Every week is Shark Week. But every Monday, we go to the mailbag. Let's go. Always something interesting in my mailbox. I try to get to everything in my mailbox. And then,

Our first question comes from, I believe, Michael Rokickey. As Michael asks, he says a baseball podcast. I listened to suggested, wow, Alec Thomas, Eumen, Lynn, and A.J. Vukovic for Max Scherzer. Do you do this if you are the debacks? Sean, I'm going to let you take the first stab at this really fascinating trade. probably not I just

Alec Thomas is just too I just I just feel so comfortable with the outfield now I don't really want to mess that at this point I don't want them dipping into any of like the actual people

that are in the starting roster that are a clear part of the future plan I would like them to go more into the prospects if they're trading for arms but in theory, Mac Scherzer would be cool to have here. That would be fun.

Yeah, right? Obviously, Max Scherzer, one of the greatest pitchers ever to, I mean, the greatest pitcher ever, probably to start their career in Arizona. So it would be, you know, sort of a full circle moment for him. But, yeah, the biggest thing here for me, Sean, is that Max Scherzer is on a three-year, $130 million contract. and it makes more than $43 million per year. I know that Steve Cohen in a recent interview, or maybe this was just some porting that was done. It sounds like the Mets are willing to eat some salary in a deal like this.

I think they would pony up and pay sort of whatever was needed to make it so the return was good for them. But yeah, I mean, it's how much of this are they realistically going to eat? Because for the Diamondbacks to actually be in place for this move, I don't know if they would be willing to accept more than about, you know, $10 to $15 million per year, which is like a third or less than a third of what Scherzer is actually making. So that seems like a pretty big obstacle here for me.

And obviously it's Max Scherzer and you there's, it's Max Scherzer, but it's not like he's been Max Scherzer this year necessarily. Correct. He's got a 387 ERA. Like he's, you're obviously, you make that trade with the hope that he, he's, he's, gets back to being Max Scherzer, but I'm not sure that the Mets are really willing to let him go for anything less than what old Max Scherzer is worth, right? Like, I'm not sure they're going to really be taking a loss on Max Scherzer because he's had

a bad year. So, or bad year by Matt Scherzer standards. So I'm not sure that this would ever really make a whole lot of sense from either side for a handful of reasons. Yeah, he's 38 years old. I mean, you know, this contract is going to take him through, through his age 40 season. and yeah, I don't know if I see it. Scherzer has been really good lately, his last few times out.

He has bounced back nicely. I believe the debacks will catch him in this upcoming series against the Mets over the next few days. So we'll get an up close look. Maybe we'll change our minds and say we absolutely have to have Max Xerzer no matter what. But seems pretty far-fetched for me. What's the next question? What do we got? Lee says, is Jameson going to, talking about Dre Jameson,

is he going to remain a long bullpen guy, or do you believe he'll find his way back to the rotation? I'm going to say that Dre Jameson remains a long bullpen guy. The Diamondbacks have been pretty up front. Torre Levello, it's been pretty up front that the diamond backs have reached the point where they're no longer comfortable moving Dre Jameson back to a starter. Obviously, there's been a lot of back and forth already this year,

breaking into camp as a starter, and then being moved to a reliever when he made the Diamondbacks opening day roster. Then they turned him back into a starter and sent him down. And now he's back up and now serving as a reliever. So they've reached the point of no return there. And yeah, I think this one is probably pretty simple for that reason. You have anything to add there, Sean? No, not really.

And I mean, like we were kind of talking about earlier at this point, it's we're talking about there potentially being. a log jam now all of a sudden as starting pitching. I don't see them adding to that problem with the guy who has been, like you said, they've made clear they plan on keeping in the bowl of them. Yeah. The one thing I will say is the debacks, I believe it's on July 8th, actually. The debacks do need a starter.

They have named their probabilities for this series against the Mets. And they are in fact skipping the fifth spot in their rotation. So that spot the branded fought took the last time around, Debecks are just skipping over that this time through, which they're able to do because of the off day today. But on July 8th, they are going to need some starter to come up from Reno. It can't be Brandon Fought because of the new rules. They're not eligible. He would not be eligible to be called up that quickly.

So, yeah, they're going to need to come up with some solution. I wouldn't rule out Dre Jameson playing a significant role in that game. Maybe not as a opener, but maybe, you know, kind of in his current capacity as a long reliever out of the bullpen. So using Drey Jameson as an opener type at some point could be possible. But even then, you're still probably talking about two or three innings. I don't think they're going to stretch him out at this point. Go to the next one. Kristen Phoenix.

Uh-huh. Will Mayor Gallego be joining this podcast to congratulate Derek Montia and is Jesse still the vice mayor? Well, I can answer the latter question. I am still the vice mayor. That is what I'm told. I was in fact the acting mayor for a brief period of time while Shane Bach was doing something or other and he was he was unable to fulfill whole capacity. He was getting his wisdom to be taken out. Right, right.

So I was the acting mayor for a solid few hours a couple of weeks ago. But yeah, we'll see if we'll see if Mayor Gallego is willing to come on. I mean, it might be kind of a sore moment for her though, right? She's just kind of had this job taken away from her. So I don't know. Yeah, I know. I think we will we're going to have to have an election at some point. So if we'll have to campaign, maybe we'll have to hold the debate.

I'm not sure, not sure how Derek will fare in a televised debate against Mayor Kate. So we'll have to see. I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't give up. I don't know. This is still a democracy. Derek is not, doesn't hold on to this forever. I mean, you definitely get the, the pro wrestling fans vote, right? There would be, there would be some people who would, who would vote for Derek.

All right. Let's go to the next one. Brady Martin. Here we go again. Will Derek be seeking re-election next year? If so, what can we expect his campaign platform to look like? Sean, I guess we kind of have to just wait for Derek to be back on the show. I don't know if we're eligible to speak on this.

I don't know. Yeah. And I mean, who's to say necessarily that we'll be supporting his campaign, maybe or running there could be potential competitors to his campaign his reelection so you know we got you know i'm not just going to blindly pledge allegiance to to derrick quite yet we got we do have to see we have to let him speak for himself and see what he's about yeah he has to earn our votes too you know i mean i'm i'm supposed to be his running mate but he he's still has some convincing to do yeah let's uh let's do one more and then we'll then we'll take a quick break here uh tyler says

are the debacks an actually good team or have they just been able to take advantage of struggling slash 500 or under teams? And if so, what do they need to do or add to solidify wins against for sure playoff teams? Very valid question. There has been this narrative and we talked about it after the race series where the Diamondbacks are beating the teams that they're supposed to be and they're kind of losing to pretty much all of the teams that you would like to see them beat. right in June they lost series to the Atlanta Braves that was a tough one to the raise of course

to the giants uh it has been something of a trend where the debacks are taking care of business against the lesser teams around the league and and they're struggling and at times they've looked a little bit overmatched against some of the other teams Sean what do you say to this yeah I mean I think you it depends on what really how you're looking at this as like a good team are they a playoff team, I think absolutely yes. I think they're offensively gifted enough. They have enough star power. They have enough good arms to be a playoff team. But if you're looking at this, is like, are they good enough to be competing with the teams that are going to be playing in the World Series? Probably not, right? I don't think that was, and I don't think that was ever

really, if you were being realistic about the scene, how you ever really should have been looking about them, like, I think there was still a clear kind of gap between them and specifically believe that the Braves, right, is when you look at the star power and the talent is on that team. And I don't think it's like it's, I don't think it's a gap that can't be bridged with a few major additions to the trade deadline. Like I do think they are in a position to be competitive for a World Series. But as they sit right now, I don't think they are quite yet. So I think it makes sense when you see them again beating, like you said, beating teams

that are supposed to be not quite competing against the teams that you would like to see them beat. maybe a little ahead of them in the standings or around them in the standings. I think when you, like I said, if you look at this team realistically, that should be kind of what you're expecting from them. It has felt. I mean, I know part of the question here was like, what would the debacks have to add in order to get to the point where they are contending against these teams?

It's felt like the lack of a really solid ninth inning option has been an issue, right? Scott McGuff blew a save. The debacks had a two nothing lead against the raise. in the second game of that series, if they're able to lock that down, then you're looking at a series win over the race. Similar story with the Braves at the beginning of June.

Miguel Castro blew a save in that series as well. That was the difference between losing that series and winning that series. Obviously, you know, no bullpen is perfect and even the best relievers are going to have their off days. But if you brought in a truly elite back-end arm, I think you probably could turn. some of those series losses in the wins.

The other thing I'll say is the debacks are 24 and 24 against teams that are above 500, which isn't so bad, right? They're playing 500 ball against teams that are above 500. Obviously, they banked some of those wins earlier in the season against teams like the Dodgers and Padres before they had really hit their stride of late. It hasn't been quite as good. But, I mean, they just took two out of three from the Angels, right? The Angels are an above 500 team.

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which yes, presumably that time will come soon. The Diamondbacks have a four-man rotation right now. Do the debacks go with Kyle Lewis, because of the right-handed bat or do you choose the better player, Dominic Fletcher, even though his skill set is redundant? A very interesting question. The Diamondbacks are able to carry both of those guys right now, I would say,

because they only have a four-man rotation. So very valid. Once you get Merrill Kelly back in here, you're probably going to have to make a move with one of these guys. I don't know, Sean. I would probably say that Dominic Fletcher fits the roster a little bit. bit better as sort of the, the Pavan Smith replacement, a guy who can be in the lineup against righties and obviously has some defensive value as well. Kyle Lewis, the fit for me with Kyle Lewis is a

little weird because the debacks really don't seem to want to play him in the outfield. And when that's the case, if you've got a lefty on the mound, which is sort of the bread and butter for Kyle Lewis, you can have Lordus Gurriel play left field. And then you can have Emmanuel Rivera or Evan Longoria at third base. And that leaves you with basically not being able to play both Kyle Lewis and both of your third baseman at the same time. You have to pick and choose. There's no way for the debacks to have Gurriel, Longoria, Rivera, and Lewis in the lineup

at the same time. And for me, I mean, that's kind of what Lewis would be here for. He's here, VH, against lefties. But when he's in there against the lefty, it means that Rivera or Longoria are not in there. and I just don't really think that's an ideal fit. Yeah, again, I mean, these are good problems to have, but it just just seems like another log jam. Like, especially like you said,

they don't really seem to have much interest in playing them in the outfield. Yeah, I mean, I think in theory, I would probably rather have Kyle Lewis, but I think, like, for all the reasons you laid out, Flesh just makes more sense. But I do think there's also a greater chance, of Fletch being involved in some kind of trade if they're to make moves at the deadline. So perhaps that that issue gets solved by itself.

But I think as it stands now, yeah, like I said, for all the reasons you said, Fletch just seems to make a little bit more sense. It definitely, I can understand why the Diamondbacks wanted to get Lewis back up to the majors. He was really at a really incredible two-week stretch down in Reno. And going into the trade deadline as you're kind of evaluating what kind of pieces you might want to add. You probably want to know, like, can Kyle Lewis do what he's, do what he's been doing in Reno?

Can he, can he do that in the majors? Because if he can, then maybe you, maybe you adjust your approach at the deadline. Maybe you're not looking for, you know, a right-handed power bat, which is sort of what we've suspected the diamond bags might be, might be pursuing. So make sense to get him some opportunities. The Merrill Kelly injury sort of opened the door for that. But, yeah, in the long term, still feels like Dominic Fletcher probably makes the most sense there. What else we got, Sean?

Sean's doing double duty today, by the way, everyone. Damon, Damon is also not with us, so we are, we are making it worse. It's just Jesse and I. Brighton Bobbitt says, who are the biggest snubs from the All-Star game, not just D-backs, because we definitely have a couple, which we've already discussed, but across Major League Baseball. Sean, what do you think? You got any names that come to mind for you around baseball probably should have been All-Stars, but we're not? Yeah, I mean, the first one that comes to top my head is Wander Franco.

I mean, that to me is absurd when you look at his, where he is statistically, where he ranks amongst other, like just other players in the American League in general. Yeah, I think it's, yeah, him getting bypassed for a brave, I believe, or not brave, Blue Jay, I believe, Boba Chet, I think. makes no sense to me. Yeah, that, that one was tough. Shortstop in the American League. There's a few, there's a few interesting candidates.

Franco, obviously one of them. Corey Seeger was named the starter there, even though he hasn't played many games. There have been a few short stops in the AL that are deserving. Franco and, uh, and, uh, and Bichette were, we're pretty close for me. But yeah, I would probably agree that Franco should make it out of those two guys. Um, elsewhere, a really interesting omission is Fernando Tati.

Jr. Yeah. The San Diego Padres. I believe Ken Rosenthal wrote a column today talking about how that sort of made a statement, you know, don't be suspended for the first few weeks of the season. And, uh, and,

and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and,

and we'll let you be an all-star. Uh, we don't really necessarily care how you play, uh, if you're going to put yourself in a position where you can't help your team for the first few weeks of the season. From a number standpoint, there's no question that Fernando Tates deserved it,

even though he did. missed those few weeks. I mean, he's been frankly way more valuable than a guy like Lordus Curiel, even though he hasn't played in quite as many games. But yeah, that was an interesting one with him, with him not making it for the San Diego Padres. Yeah, again, I'm not going to complain about that one for a number of reasons. And I, you know, I am of the kind of the persuasion that you know like like you said put yourself in that position you kind of deserve what comes to you like you this is a clear message that people weren't going to reward you for for cheating and costing your team like that um so it it is what it is and especially because it

is ultimately for the reason that domen vassette at lores geryl in the in the all-star game i'm not going to complain about it at all yeah i i know brewers fans were also doing the the number comparison thing with geryl and christian yellich arguing that yell it should have made it over geryl which is probably a fair point uh we've been pretty up front on this podcast that uh for whatever reason lord lord it's just used to have all of this uh all of this notoriety around the league and all of these all of this attention and maybe he doesn't fully deserve with how he's how he's played over the last month um but yeah we could go on i mean i think Mitch keller of of the pittsburgh pirates and other guys that a really really good season probably uh probably deserve

to be in there. But unfortunately, there's, there's only, there's only so many spots. So, yeah, and that just kind of seems to be a thing that just sucks here after year, Sean, is no matter how, no matter how good the selection process is, there's always going to be guys that seem to be deserving that just don't get in there anyway. And a lot of it has to do with what we talked about earlier with this rule that major league baseball has where every team has to have a representative. Sean, I want to take kind of a, go on a little tangent here with you for a,

moment. Do you think that Major League Baseball should nix that rule? Should we get past the point of every team having to have a representative? I don't know because it's, and this is so tough, because I think ultimately from like, if I'm being unbiased, like, no, probably not because this game doesn't mean anything and it's ultimately for the fans. But the reality of it in my mind is also that like if you're going to treat it like that then stop putting All-Star games on all-of-fame plaques.

Like stop counting that as something that that makes players better than other players by their all-star accomplishments when guys are getting robbed of that simply because of this rule. Well, simple because Pete Alonzo needs to be on the All-Star game because no one else needs. And not necessarily that Christian Walker necessarily

100% would have been that substitution, but for example, like those kinds of things are preventing guys who deserve to have that recognition and would ultimately change how people look at them in the context of baseball history. Like if that's going to be a qualifier, then just the most deserving player needs to be

regardless of what team they play for. So I understand both perspectives of it, but I think I kind of lean towards, like, it sucks when you're a fan of a team that sucks and you have no one at the All-Star game. Like that just sucks. Last year, it was cool when Joe Mantiply was there. Like, it made the All-Star game more interesting for DeBax fans.

And I ultimately think that's the most important thing. So I guess I kind of lean towards keeping the rule. But I'm really not passionate about it. Passionate one way or the other. I would make the argument that if you are a fan of a team, it's not very good. It is a little bit more, it is bizarre. more painful and embarrassing for you to have an all-star representative that doesn't deserve to be there and everyone knows it right like if you're a fan of the detroit tigers right now and michael lorenzen

is is your all-star representative right i mean you i saw a tweet which pointed out something absolutely crazy to me if you look at the er a leaders in the american league and which one of and which guys in the american league uh out of out of their starting pitchers made the all-star roster You've got the guy ranked first in ERA. You've got the guy ranked second in ERA. It goes all the way up to, I think, eighth ERA. Those top eight are all in. And then Michael Lorenzen, who ranks 28th in the American League among qualified starters

in ERA is just bizarrely in the game. And I don't know. If you're a Tigers fan, does it really improve the All-Star experience? Because you might get to see Michael Lorenzen, you know, get a couple outs late in that game next Tuesday. I don't know. And even last year, like for Diamond's, and Beck's fans with Joe Mantiply.

I think he was having a better season than Michael Lorenzen is having this year. Maniplied a sub three ERA. He was having a good year. So I think that situation is maybe a little bit different. But I think if you're doing it for the fans, Sean, I think you ultimately just want to serve the fans by putting the best possible product on the field. So that's just me.

Yeah, no, that's completely fair. I really think it just depends on, I mean, I ultimately think on what depends on what kind of fan you are, right? like if you're a more casual fan who really only knows your team and the goal of this is to kind of grow the game like, um,

then yeah, I think it makes sense to have someone from every team. But if this is ultimately to serve the best interest of baseball, then yeah, you, you definitely just need to put the best players in there. Um, and I think diehard baseball fans would probably look at it the same way.

Elizabeth says I only watch the all-star game to see the debacks. So yeah. So there's definitely fans like that. that's the thing. And I don't think any kind of fan is more bad than the other, obviously, right? So, and I'm not going to lie. Like, that's definitely, especially when I was younger, like, that was the kind of fan I was, too. Like, I was really just watching to see my guys or certain guys, what have you.

So, yeah, it completely makes sense. I think, like Derek is suggesting, the other argument, this is a more interesting conversation, or not more interesting conversation, but a fascinating conversation to me. Like, there should there be a limit? Because that's where I think you more get guys who don't deserve to be in the All-Star game.

It's when teams just kind of get overloaded like you see with the Blue Jays and the Braves. Yeah, it's a fair point. I mean, I feel like you shouldn't have to have a limit because if any team has eight representatives like the Braves do, something went wrong in the selection process. like you shouldn't need you shouldn't need like some artificial limit in order to uh in order to change

that there there are guys that were selected this year for the braves that clearly did not deserve the opportunity that's that's the bigger problem in my mind um anyway let's uh let's let's let's go on to the next question uh diamondbacks fan 900 on twitter says any idea why is that galen has been so poor this season on the road uh yeah sean the narrative does kind of continue gallon didn't have that really good game against the brewers in Milwaukee a week or two ago. But, but yeah, obviously the Sunday game wasn't his best outing, giving up the two home runs and the four runs over seven innings. Yeah, I mean, I don't know, I feel like this is kind of, and I would have to look into it

more. This is kind of anecdotal just based on what I feel like I have been hearing. But I feel like a lot of good pitchers have just kind of struggled on the road this year. Like, I feel like, I feel like it's something you have seen a lot in baseball. and not that that makes you feel any better about Zach Allen situation, but I don't know. I just think pitching is hard and it's natural to be more comfortable at home. So I don't really know. I obviously don't know what to make of his struggles.

I obviously don't know why he's struggling. But I don't know that if there's, there might just not be a whole lot to read into it other then it's kind of messes up his routine he's a very routine based guy um i don't know it might might just be simple as that yeah i don't know i mean even then it's like okay well what what it what about your routine on the road is is necessarily different um i guess there there was the narrative with that one start in detroit where it was so early in the morning it was at like 830 in the morning Arizona time. He did pitch in a day game yesterday. So I mean, I guess maybe it's like a day game versus night game thing. Obviously, that was on the West Coast. That was at, you know, 1 PM Arizona

time. So that's sort of a different story. But yeah, I don't I don't really know exactly exactly what the deal is there. But frankly, I'm not too worried about it. It's not really something that Gallen has a history with. It's not really a trend outside of this season. So not something I would be, I would be too concerned about. What else we got, Sean? I believe this is our last one from at Chris the Doola on Twitter. This is probably the most important question we'll answer today. Who is hitting a ball farther off a tee?

She presents the following options. Sean DePause, Derek Montia, Jesse Friedman, Jacob Franklin, or Danielle Cortez. And, Sean, I feel like I know the answer here, but I'm curious what you have to say first. I mean, I think I would, I wouldn't be me if I didn't say that I don't think I had a chance here. Like, I did play baseball. I think I would have an opportunity. But from what I've heard, Danielle Rakes, and I don't think it would be particularly close. So I probably would have to go with her.

Yeah, I've sort of learned the hard way that, you know, doubting Danielle's athletic ability in any particular way is not usually the best choice. although we've played some very competitive ping pong matches. I don't want to make it sound like she's absolutely destroyed me when we've played. But yeah, I talked some trash and I was humbled. So I'm not going to make that mistake again. I do think it would probably be one of you guys. Frankly, I'm pretty sure Derek would swing and miss. You know, I mean, maybe he rolls over the top and hits a slow roller to the pitching

mount, something like that. Don't have a whole lot of faith there. If he connects, he's probably the strongest. if he connects, but I'm just not, I'm not too sure about the technique. Yeah, Jacob, Jacob's sort of a wild card for me. I don't know.

I've never seen, I've never seen Jacob swing a bat or, I've never, I've never played him in ping pong or any kind of, any kind of anything, really. So I don't really know what to expect there. Yeah,

I mean, you might have a little Ellie de la Cruz and him, just long and Nike, just get around on it and just send it. Who knows? I'm not really betting on that, but who knows? Yeah,

I think, I think Jacob Franklin, would probably be the fastest man in baseball, right? I mean, I think he's the build for it. He's that athletic, right? Sean, am I mistaken? Is that all of our mailback questions? I think we might have one more.

Okay. Ah, yes, yes, we do have one more. All right, Juanito underscore GRM on Twitter says, should Corbyn Karo represent the Diamondbacks in the home run derby? Corbyn Carroll, to preface this, Corby Carroll has already said that he is not interested in, in the home run derby. So we already have our answer from that standpoint.

But I guess, Sean, the question here is should Corfin Carroll represent the Diamondbacks in the home run derby? What do you think? Is that something you'd be interested in seeing? It would be cool. I'm just,

I'm struggling to tell how much anyone cares that he's from Seattle outside of him and D-Bax fans. Right? So like, does that story really translate on a national scale like it needs to for it to matter in this situation. I'm not too sure. Like, I think it would be a much more,

it would be a much bigger question if, if it was in Arizona, right? We, I had brought this up to you, like a couple weeks ago, I think. And I think you're gonna know for reaction was just that, like,

he's not really, he's not that kind of hitter either. So, like, I don't know that it would even make for that entertaining of a, of a home run derby. Like, and as a deback stand,

it would just suck to see him go there and just get eliminated in the first round and not really do anything like that. When him just being there doesn't do a whole lot for me since he's already in the Allstar game. Now, if he wasn't in the All-Star game, I think this would be an awesome, like, bone to throw him, right? But he obviously, obviously is starting the All-Star game. I don't think you need to do this.

I think the Home Run Derby, that's something that's strictly for fans. Like, you just need to throw guys that are going to hit balls hard and far, which is something they tend to do. And so I don't have a problem with him not being there. It would be cool, but I don't think it's not something that I'm upset that he is not representing or he's not any of the Homerun Derby. Yeah, it's a little weird, right, to be. talking about like uh corbin carroll like doesn't quite have the you know the monstrous power that like gladdy junior those other guys have when corbin carroll is on pace to hit about 35 home runs i mean clearly had he clearly has some power in there but yeah i think there's a difference between you know

guys who are just really really good hitters who have enough power to get the ball over the fence and especially corbin carroll's size the amount of power he has is incredibly impressive but yeah like in the home run derby, you want the guys who are going to hit the ball, you know, over the third deck. You want the guys who are going to hit it 480, 490 feet. And from what we know about Corvin Carroll, that's not really his game. He's hit, he's hit a few tape measure shots this year. But most of his home runs are more of the more of the wall scraping, more of the, you know, third to fifth row sort of variety. Yeah. And that, that just doesn't really play in the home run derby as well as a Vlad Jr. or Pete Alonzo or one of those guys.

Yeah, I mean, the reality of a home run derby is that as much as it is a feat of strength, it's a feat of endurance, too. And if you're kind of like Corby who kind of has to muscle every single ball, effort, every single ball over the fence, you might hit a few off the beginning, but that's in order to do that for an entire tournament like that, or even an entire round, he is going to struggle much more than a guy, like Petalanz or Vlad Guerrero or who have you, who can hit them a little, a little more effortlessly. So again, I don't know that it would make for very good TV either as a baseball fan or as a Debex fan just kind of watching our guy get probably destroyed in a format like this. I don't necessarily want to say we'd get destroyed. Well, not destroyed, but, you know, he might get destroyed, to be honest.

I don't know that. Yeah, he wouldn't, he wouldn't be the favorite. I mean, it would be sort of like when Chris Young was in the home run. Yeah. The way back in the day, right? Like, oh, this is kind of fun, but like, I don't know this is going to go. very well. So yeah.

And also, I mean, the other thing from a D-BACs fan perspective is that Corbyn Carroll just tweaked his shoulder. You know, he did get back in the game on Sunday. But I think we're okay letting Corbyle just take a couple hacks in the All-Star game. And not worry about the home run derby. I released a diehard story this morning slash last night. If you want access to our die-hard written content, you should become a die-hard today over at go p hnx.com you become a diehard you not only get my writing over at the site which a lot

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So I will be out in Seattle starting on Friday covering the All-Star game, covering the home run derby, the whole thing. The MLB draft is happening there as well. So I'll be out there on site. And we're going to talk about who the Diamondbacks select. They have the 12th overall pick happening here in less than a week. So we're going to start talking about that a little bit more here in the days leading up to

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