PHNX Arizona Diamondbacks Podcast - Look what you made me do

Episode Date: February 8, 2022

On this episode, Jesse and Derek are discussing updates on the MLB lockout, the D-backs signing journeyman pitcher (and host) Dan Straily to a minor league contract, and umpire Joe West finally hanging it up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello and welcome to another edition of the PHNX D-Backs podcast right here on PHNX. My name is Derek Montia, of course, officially known around these parts as the mayor of PHNX. And I am joined by my vice mayor in this game of officiating over PHNX. It is the one and only thunderstick, Jesse Friedman. I'm excited, Derek. We get to dive into an actual move that the Diamondbacks made over the weekend here on the show today. So minor league deal, yes, but hey, minor league deals have become big news around here, Derek. So that's what we have to work with.

We're going to make the most of it. It's our favorite kind of deal. It's the deal that we can talk about right now during this stupid-ass lockout. And of course, it also, I feel like, is a minor league deal that's a bit different. And we'll get to that in a bit. Of course, this show is brought to you by the fine folks over at the Draft King's Sportsbook app. This is it, folks. It's the weekend.

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Bet just $5 or more and get $280 in free bets if your team wins. And I promise you, we won't start speculating on your status if you decide to unfollow the Cardinals on social media. That's for Kyler Murray and a whole other show. We are here to talk about how nothing has happened with the lockout. There is no real news. We had our last meeting almost a week ago, well, from the day that this podcast will post, a week ago from today. And in that time frame, we've learned that there was a heated discussion. we've had an attempt by the MLB owners to have federal mediation involved,

to which the Players Association declined. Understandably so, federal mediation would seem to most likely favor the owners in this entire situation, considering that players are asking for things that aren't currently in existence. So I feel like their request is going to, you know, have a mediator come in and kind of blindly look at this and just want to split things down the middle where that's really not what the players are looking for with a lot of things that they want to do as far as compensating free arbitration players, the situation with tanking, a lot of things that they want to rectify in this game.

And honestly, I feel like the players do have the game's best interest in mind. I don't feel like the owners really do. I no longer feel that. I don't feel like the owners. Because when you start looking up the owners, you start realizing pretty quickly, Jesse, that the owners have other sources of income. The players do not necessarily.

Well, some do. The ones that are well off do. You know, the majority of the players in baseball do not have an additional source of income the same way that owners in this game do. That's a fair point. And yeah, I mean, we hate to like, you know, blindly, you know, take sides or say, I mean, it's a battle of billionaires versus

millionaires for, for the most part, right? And I know that is a lot of people have pushed back on that because, you know, when we're talking about minor league players, when we're talking about players first coming up, they're certainly not millionaires at that point. But, I mean, you know, the majority of the negotiations that are happening are, you know, they're happening between billionaires and millionaires kind of fighting it out, right? It's, it's correct. pretty hard to really sympathize with either side. However, yeah, I mean, I think the owners have, like you wrote about, the owners are kind of trying to run out the clock, right? They're trying to drag this process out as long as they possibly can. And, you know, they're the ones in the

driver's seat. They're the ones who force this lockout in the first place. And so naturally, they just have a little bit more leverage here. They do have more leverage. And it's weird how they're still also trying to position themselves in being the good guys, right? They're the ones that offered like, hey, we wanted to bring a mediator in here. And that, like, they don't want this mediator. Obviously, they don't want to get this done. Look at who's actually working towards getting this done. When the players know what the mediator means and they know, especially bringing someone

in that's going to like try to just call things down the middle, it's going to end up with them conceding more, considering the owners are starting. at zero. Their offer is $1 on the table and the players are asking for $150 million or however much they requested initially for the bonus pool for these pre-arbitration players that are the top players in the game

that aren't in their contract years of making the bigger money, right? Baseball is a game that tends to hold down the youthful players, the younger players. It's another thing they're fighting for is this manipulation of service top. And again, I think it's the reason why when you tend to look at things, or at least when I look at things, I'm trying to be unbiased.

I'm not really, like you said, in the corner of a millionaire versus a billionaire. But it does feel like the owners are definitely the ones that have caused this delay. The labor dispute could have taken place without there being a lockout or a strike. They could have still just had business as usual while negotiating this. the problem is that could have allowed it to drag out for longer than this is going to drag out for because now there's a time frame on it. Now there's pressure on this situation, right? The owners are meeting, according to John Heyman and Orlando this week. And they are scheduled to meet from Tuesday to Thursday to potentially come up with a counterproposal or some other plan as far as to get this

lockout ended. I don't know what the end result is going to be, but I kind of find it laughable that the owners are taking more consecutive days to meet about negotiating and this entire process than they are with the players when they get together. They met for 90 minutes last Tuesday, 90 minutes in what was called a heated discussion and got really nothing resolved. Nothing came of that meeting other than just confirming that these two. sides are very far apart. It's true. It's true. And yeah, it'll be interesting to see what that, if that meeting is fruitful or not. I think we all have our doubts and, and we're probably right to have some doubts that, you know, the owners coming together will, will necessarily be very fruitful.

It's very possible from, from my perspective, that the owners could decide, hey, I mean, we, we are going to stand our ground and we are willing to miss games for this. And, And that's, I mean, that's totally within the realm of possibility that they just kind of, you know, renew their spirit together, that they're willing to drag this out and they're willing to try to wait as long as is needed before the players are willing to, you know, come over to their side a little bit more. I really hope that, you know, they can come to their senses a bit in this meeting. That's really what it comes down to. I don't feel like the players are asking for the world here, but they are asking for younger players to be treated a bit better. And I don't, you can't really be against that.

There's a lot of things that that are, is part of this that might, you know, be a bit serving to, you know, players in general. But the focus really has been on, you know, these guys that have gone through it trying to fight for this next generation of baseball players. there's a lot to this, right? Like there's a lot to the lockout being unappealing to fans, right?

And fans kind of, you know, basically turning a bit on the sport. If this does alter the season, if this cause a delayed opening day, if this does anything to impede the season, which it's looking like it's going to. But you also have like the fact that baseball players have to look out for the game still being appealing. when it comes to athletes, athletes like Kyler Murray, deciding whether he's going to go play baseball or football, right?

A perfect example of that as a guy that got paid playing football versus knowing what the road to actually being a major league baseball player and getting that big payday is and figuring that this is, I'm just going to go the football route, right? There's, there is a part of this that is about building the game and making, making sure people that it still wants to attract some of the top athletes in the world and not have them go after other sports, right? I mean, if you start hearing that minor leaguers aren't are struggling to make ends meet and that you're going to have to go through that process as a minor leaguer yourself

if you want to play baseball, that's not exactly the kind of thing that makes me want to sign up and and play that sport, you know, so I don't know. I'm not sure there's anything that the, that the owners or the players side could do to make it so that someone like Kyler Murray would choose baseball over being the number one overall pick in the NFL draft. That seems like a bit of a long. Football's a hard sport, Jesse. It takes a lot out of you. It is.

It is. But when you're the first overall pick, you know, you start for the Arizona Cardinals in your first season. And it doesn't really matter how high the Oakland A's draft you. You're stuck in the minors for several years, you know, before you're really going to make meaningful money in this game beyond your signing bonus. So it, yeah, it's, unfortunately, that's kind of a losing battle for the game of baseball. I just can't, I still can't believe that really we're in this position. I know you and I both made jokes about how next season,

and was in jeopardy when this whole thing started. I don't know if we really thought it at the time. I don't. Yeah. This is bad. I mean, this is worse than I initially anticipated it would be. And that was probably naive of me to think.

I think I just wasn't aware of how bad the animosity between the two sides was really going to get. And it's just, it's just getting uglier and uglier by the day right now. Yeah. So hopefully that the, the, just meeting with the.

owners can be fruitful and we can see some progress being made, some progress being made quickly because they're running out of time. We got, yeah, what, one, less than one week until my deadline. And then we know everything goes to hell after that. So, I got to hit my deadline because then I can gloat for God knows how long over Jesse in this whole situation. Anyway, you can go read more on my thoughts, my feelings, and my very biased opinion on the owners taking advantage of this timeline over at go-Phnx.com. A brand new article out about that lockout situation, giving you updates as well as, you know, probably more of my own personal feelings on the situation than I anticipated going into writing that piece. But you can go check that out. If you're not

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but it's the minor league signing that has great potential to flourish and possibly become part of the starting rotation for the Arizona Diamondbacks. That is exactly what happened. The Arizona Diamondbacks signed. He's now 33 years old, Dan Strayley, a right-handed starting pitcher, a name that some people may recognize. You might remember him as an Oriole or a Marlin or a red or a cub or a member of the Oakland A's or the Houston Astros. The guy has really really bounced around since coming into the league back in 2012. But a kind of a similar storyline, Derek, Dan Strayley after the 2019 season, Dan Staley took a similar path to Merrill Kelly. he pitched over in the KBO for a couple of seasons.

I think he stated that he had opportunities to stay in the big leagues back in 2020. However, given the situation with the pandemic and whatnot, he wound up taking a deal with the lot giants over in the KBO. And he was pretty good there. You look at his numbers, the last couple of seasons, pretty impressive across the board. Let me see if I can get these back up here. So this season, he was a little bit, not quite what he was last year,

but nonetheless, both years pretty solid over in the KBO in 2020, a 282 ERA across 194 and two-thirds innings. This season, a four, or sorry, that's a two-five-0-ERA. And this season, a 407 ERA. So not quite as pristine, but still 165 in two-thirds innings. the peripheral numbers look pretty good across the board. And frankly, Derek, these numbers are pretty similar to what Merrill Kelly was able to pull off in his four seasons with the KBO. His ERAs were generally in that same region to the KBO is not the same level of competition as what you'll find here in Major League Baseball.

But this is an exciting move for the Diamondbacks. And that's not something that we say often about minor league deals, right? that's very true most minor league guys and the diamond backs have have brought in a lot of guys on minor league deals the last few years usually you know it's it's someone who's kind of a a back end floater type someone who maybe has an outside chance with an invite to spring training you know to make the opening day roster but you're not expecting it uh dan straley is is really not like that at all um something that stands out to me derrick is that over the last two seasons because he's pitched in the kbo dan straley has pitched three 361 in a third innings over the last two seasons. In Major League Baseball, yeah, it's a big number. It's a big number. He's been really durable over there. He's made 62 starts.

In Major League Baseball, because of the pandemic and what it did to the 2020 season, no Major League starter the last two seasons has thrown more than 284 in a third innings, that being Zach Wheeler, who has pitched more innings than any other pitcher the last two years. That's incredible. Yeah. So Dan Staley is thrown about 80 more innings the last two seasons than any major league starter you'll find.

And to me, that's a tremendous, tremendous value for the Diamondbacks because you know that he could come in next year and he could give you 160, 170, 180 innings, whereas a lot of other guys aren't quite built up to that level based on what's happened the last couple of years. So not only, you know, is there some stuff to like about the adjustment that he made in the KBO, which we don't know a whole lot of specifics about exactly what he might have done differently, how he was able to get things back on track. But the numbers look pretty good from an ERA standpoint.

And for me, it's really the potential for him to come out here and pitch 160 or 170 innings next year if he proves himself to be effective enough to get that opportunity. I like Dan Strelie a lot. And another thing I like about this deal is it's a minor league deal. So it keeps him for now off the four. 40-man roster. He can resume his baseball activity throughout this lockout with no interruption. And that's, I think, going to be a big benefit to him because a lot of the younger guys that are going to be part of the Diamondback system obviously don't have that number of innings in

and don't have the experience that Straitly has. So he's really a major league, you know, pitcher kind of masquerading for now as a minor leaguer. I was surprised. I was surprised that he signed a minor League deal. Apparently, from what we've heard from reporters, there were about 15 teams interested in Dan Staley. And I know we're going to, yeah, go ahead. And I was going to say, Dan Strayley confirmed that himself on his own podcast, which he has, which is fantastic, by the way. I am, I started going backwards for some reason and then just decided I'm going to start back at number one. But I have been starting to listen to this podcast, and it's very, very good. I definitely recommend it. It's available on Apple and all sorts of places where you get your podcast. But

it's called the Journey Man, Journey Man, Journey Man podcast. And actually on the latest episode, Dan himself was asked by his co-host why he chose Arizona. And this is his answer. Can you explain to everybody that's listening why the Arizona Diamondbacks, right? Because maybe they watched the Diamondbacks this last year. And they were like, Dan, they kind of sucked. Their record was poor, one of the worst teams in the National League. What is the appeal exactly of Arizona right now in this moment of your career? Because if you had other offers, I'm assuming there were some quote unquote better teams, at least according to the records from last year that you could have taken a deal with.

So why Arizona right now? Opportunity. Opportunity. They're like, it's not like I'm talking bad about my new teammates. I'm just saying like there's opportunity there. for all of us. The guys that are there, the guys that are coming in. Because when things don't work,

organizations are looking for ways to find things that will work. And these guys came in and basically said, like, we think that you're a piece that's going to help us win a lot more games, period. Like, you're going to come in and help us win games. You know, they made a very competitive offer.

And then they agreed to up it with us at the end where we were looking for. you know, I have some outs in the contract. So if I'm throwing the ball well and they decide that, you know, they don't want me on their team, I can go elsewhere. You know, those are things that are important to me. You know, one of the teams in that that was a finalist, just they did not want to offer us an out. And I just don't want to go sit in AAA and be an insurance policy.

I've done that before. You know, I didn't say, I didn't say no thank you to Lote so that I could sit over here and just play AAA baseball either. Like, I'm trying to be in the big leagues, and I think that Arizona is a place that has a need for starting pitching. I think everybody has a need for starting pitching, first of all. And, you know, I wasn't getting major league offers. I was getting NRI offers, meaning non-raster invite. So I'm coming into spring training, major league spring training, with a chip in my shoulder and something to prove.

And I get whatever weeks or however many days to prove it. And then we go. And so second reason was geography plays a part to it. Whether I am in the major leagues or I am in AAA, I can get there on a direct flight from my house. So no matter which AAA are the major leagues I'm in with Arizona, my family can fly back and forth directly, relatively or very quickly. So like all these things kind of come into play. but man there's a lot of excitement now that we actually know where we're going it sounds like exhaustion dan it sounds like exhaustion i am i'm exhausted can you uh great great by the way again

great podcast but i feel like very good reasons i find the geography one to be very funny to me um just because a lot of places you could get on on a single plane ride but i get what he's saying, Reno and Phoenix are very close to each other. It's not even a plane ride. If you were in one city or the other, you know, it's a pretty quick drive even, let alone I don't know where he lives particularly. He lives in Central

Oregon, I believe, which is not that close to either place, but I guess nonstop flight away. I mean, if that's what you're looking for, and I mean, in some cases AAA teams are on the other side of the country, which doesn't even make any sense. But there are, there are some teams that

have quite a bit of distance between them and their AAA team, even though, like, why? Why would you have a team that's your AAA team that's not close to your, you know, somewhere in the, at least at a quick flight distance so you can bring guys over pretty quickly? But anyway, I definitely like his reasoning behind it, though, because we talked in the past about Tori Lavolo's frustrations with guys not stepping up to this opportunity, right? they've been providing guys with an opportunity for an entire season. They gave guys opportunities at all sorts of different positions.

They gave minor leaguers opportunities. They gave free agent guys that were older opportunities. They've given a lot of people opportunities. And I think there was frustration internally with the lack of having someone to merge. It doesn't always work out. You don't always find the diamond in the rough. But at times, I think it might have been the. effort that was frustrating them more than the actual results.

Yeah, that's a great, that's a great point. And Dan Staley, I mean, you can hear it in his voice. I mean, if a guy is going to be motivated to perform, I mean, he is coming all the way back over to the states from Korea, you know, trying to prove himself and, and get back on, you know, the track that he wants to be on here in the major leagues. This is a big moment for him. And you can tell that he's, yeah, you can tell that he's taking this seriously. Another thing, we didn't, we didn't get a piece of this in that clip there.

But Dan actually did a like a live chat recently over on MLB trade rumors.com where people could just hop on and ask him questions. And Dan Strayley has a connection to Diamondbacks pitching coach, Brent Strom. I mentioned he was with the Astros for for a season. And someone in that chat asked Dan Strayley, what was it like pitching under Brent Strom? Is he truly the pitcher whisperer that a lot of players say he is? This was Dan's response. He said, I loved learning from him.

He was the one that taught me to throw high fastballs based on my 2,600 RPM. That's his spin rate on his fastball. He was really good at helping me be the best version of myself. So you have to believe that Brent Strom, once again, Derek, this is becoming old news. but Brent Strom once again appears to have been, you know, a factor in this as well. I wouldn't. I could totally see that being that you take an opportunity. You take a team like Arizona that honestly, I think when they go to guys and they say we think you can help us win.

Yeah. They mean that, right? And there's just been a lot of opportunities not. taken a lot of opportunity not you know jumped on pounced on whatever you want to say um but it's it's definitely wide open for someone like dan straily i think that i would i would even bet i would bet that dan straily is an opening day member of the rotation and that that might be a little bullish for me to say at this point but i don't know i it it is bullish but i mean think about who's in the rotation right now right it's zach allen it's merrill kelly

it's Madison Bumgarner, it's Luke Weaver. That's only four. And after that, you know, there's Tyler Gilbert, there's Taylor Widener, there's a few other options. But I just think that Dan Staley is going to come in here and be so motivated. Didn't even mention a single Humberto. You didn't mention single. Yeah, that's true. I neglected both.

Both the Humberto's are also in the mix, absolutely. But I just think that Dan Staley given the numbers that he put up in the KBO, not that they're anything super spectacular. But the diamondbacks need someone who can come in and pitch 170 innings next year because there is very little track record of durability from the last couple of seasons here. And I just think that Dan's going to find his way on that roster. If I'm a betting man right now, I would totally put my money on that. It feels like the perfect recipe for success, right?

Like if you wrote it down as a formula, his experience mixed with being back with Brent Strom mixed with his kind of desire right now. You know, like he's, he's succeeded in the past. He's failed. He's left the country to pitch elsewhere. And he's coming back to be a major league pitcher.

He seems motivated. And all of that combined seems like the perfect, you know, success recipe for, for a starting pitcher to have an amazing story, amazing comeback story. He's also very funny. This podcast, like I said,

Yeah, yeah, he's a funny guy. I'm looking forward to meeting him in the clubhouse and for sure. We're not supposed to be endorsing other podcasts, not on the PHNX network, but of course, in this case, we absolutely have to do so. So go check that out. And I'm excited, Jesse. I'm excited because this feels like one of those special stories, a bit like Merrill Kelly. You know, like you said, following in his footsteps a bit, even coming to the same team.

And I'm sure that they, if they don't know each other, I'm sure they'll have a lot to talk about, right? So, but yeah, a great pickup for the Diamondbacks, which is something that we don't say often enough. And I think the, to be honest, the gamble on someone like this is the perfect kind of thing the Diamondback should be doing more of, right? Yeah. They have plenty of needs right now for their lineup.

So let's, let's, let's pick up the phone and see if Adam Jones wants to come back. I'm just saying. You just love Adam Jones. Oh, so much. He liked debut nicknames or something, right? He liked my shirts so much, Jesse. He was so sincere about liking my shirts. I don't even think he remembered I was the same guy every time,

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and I'm not talking about Baxter number four. I'm not talking about any of the Diamondbacks players. I am talking about, of course, Joe West is retiring. The man, the myth, the legend. The legend Joe West is bowing out, Jesse. It's time for him to hit the old dusty trail. Retiring after umpiring a record 5,460 regular season games.

That is a career. I mean, say what you will about Joe West and his ability to make the right calls, but he's stuck around. For better or worse, he stuck around. He may have been wrong a lot, but he wouldn't admit it. And that's something to tip your cap to. I never, I don't have that many memories of Joe West. like, Angel Hernandez is the one we all know, right? Angel Hernandez is notorious.

Like, he's somebody who people have actively tried to get out of the league. I think Joe West has some respect. You know, he's nearly 70 years old. He worked his first big league game in 1976, which what a career, right? And honestly, yeah, I think. country Joe has had some moments. I think there's times where he's been a bit, I don't know, I guess a bit controversial, right? But someone like Angel Hernandez definitely has like a consistent track record of really, really bad calls. Nobody questions whether Angel Hernandez is

just completely incompetent in his job. We all, that is that is abundantly clear at this point. Right. And apparently his days might be numbered in MLB as well. So it'll be interesting to see how much longer we see Angel Hernandez as an umpire in baseball. Shout out though to Roberto Ortiz, who becomes the first umpire born on my little island of Puerto Rico to join the big league staff. So the first Puerto Rican umpire is now in MLB. And all I have to say is don't fuck it up. You know, don't become Angel Hernandez. You've got a whole country on your back. Yeah, for real. Puerto Rico, Puerto Rico is a territory, right? It's, yeah, it's like a commonwealth or a territory of the United States. We were like a state, but not really a state. And there was always, there was always a weird battle.

Like when I lived there, there was a battle on the island constantly, a political battle of whether to become a state or not. And all of the, you know, ramifications that came with it, including, you know, if it became a state, apparently they're like, you know, public school system all has to be in English and things like that. So there's a lot of changes that occur if it did become a state, which is why there was a consistent fight to keep it as the status that it currently has now. But yeah, you know, we're prideful.

And I'll guarantee you there'll be people waving flags for Roberto Ortiz. And I can't wait to see it. And like I said, don't, don't mess. it up for us because we'll talk shit about you on the internet and on Twitter. Jesse, we have so much to talk about still this week on tomorrow's live show. We'll be talking about the Arizona Diamondbacks ranking very highly in a particular Mr. Keylaws farm system, much higher than they were. Today's live show, right?

When people. Yes, today's live show. Yeah. You know, you have to. Yeah. Yeah. It's later. I don't know when is today.

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