PHNX Arizona Diamondbacks Podcast - Mike Hazen Meets With Jordan Montgomery Following Ken Kendrick's Controversial Comments

Episode Date: November 7, 2024

Per a report, Diamondbacks GM Mike Hazen met with starting pitcher Jordan Montgomery after Ken Kendrick’s scathing comments. We have more on his comments about Montgomery, how last season went, and the D-backs possibly trading one of their starting pitchers this offseason. We also discuss if the D-backs need to pursue a closer and if Archie is going to participate in the Hondo Rodeo Fest at Chase Field. Join Derek, Archie, Jesse, and Shane for the PHNX Diamondbacks Show LIVE! An ALLCITY Network Production SUBSCRIBE to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/phnx_youtube ALL THINGS PHNX: http://linktr.ee/phnxsports MERCH https://store.allcitynetwork.com/coll... ALLCITY Network, Inc. aka PHNX and PHNX Sports is in no way affiliated with or endorsed by the City of Phoenix PHNX Events: Get your tickets to PHNX events and takeovers here: https://gophnx.com/events/ bet365: https://www.bet365.com/olp/open-accou... Use the code PHNX365 to sign up, deposit $10 and choose your offer! Disclaimer: Must be 21+ and physically located in AZ.  If you or someone you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call 1-800-NEXT-STEP, text NEXTSTEP to 53342 or visit https://problemgambling.az.gov/ Bluechew: Try BlueChew FREE when you use our promo code ALLCITY at checkout--just pay $5 shipping. That’s https://bluechew.com promo code ALLCITY to receive your first month FREE. Visit for more details and important safety information, and we thank BlueChew for sponsoring the podcast.. Zbiotics: Go to https://zbiotics.com/phnxdbacks to get 15% off your first order when you use PHNXDBACKS at checkout. Pre-Alcohol is backed with 100% money back guarantee so if you’re unsatisfied for any reason, they’ll refund your money, no questions asked. Empire Today: Schedule a free in-home estimate today! All listeners can receive a $350 OFF discount when they use the promo code PHNX. Restrictions apply. See https://empiretoday.com/phnx for details. Branded Bills: Use code PHNX at https://www.brandedbills.com/ for 20% off your first order! Gametime: Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code PHNX for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Circle K:  Join Inner Circle for free by downloading the Circle K app today! Head to https://www.circlek.com/store-locator to find Circle Ks near you! Shady Rays: Exclusively for our listeners, Shady Rays is giving out their best deal of the season. Head to https://shadyrays.com and use code: PHNX for 35% off polarized sunglasses. Try for yourself the shades rated 5 stars by over 300,000 people. Check out FOCO merch and collectibles and use promo code “PHNX10” for 10% off your order on all non Pre Order items. Rugged Road: Gear up for your next adventure with Rugged Road Coolers - Your ultimate outdoor companion! Head to http://ruggedroadoutdoors.pxf.io/ALLCITY and use code PHNX for 10% off! Get 10 FREE meals at https://hellofresh.com/freedbacks. Applied across 7 boxes, new subscribers only, varies by plan. When you shop through links in the description, we may earn affiliate commissions. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Spinning wheel, spinning wheel. Did Mike Hazen have to do some damage control when it came to Ken Kendrick's comments about Jordan Montgomery? We're talking about this and some more interesting comments from Hazen in about 30 seconds. Don't go anywhere. And welcome in to another throwback Thursday right here on PHNXDbacks podcast. My name is Derek Monti, occasionally known as your mayor of PHNX. This man next to me, of course, voted in as my vice mayor once again.

And you're a thunder stick, the one and only Jesse Friedman. And this is a man down here that can't wait to learn how to throw the Roger Besson's football, football slider. It's the one and only, aren't you? We might need a ballot check on this. Yeah. Recount. Well, I mean, that's, there's no legitimate way to do that. So, uh, welcome in, of course, uh, we are here talking a little bit about some comments

made by Mike Hazen as well as, you know, if the Arizona Diamondbacks might have to actually pursue a closer this year or if they have that candidate in house already. Of course, the, the big thing, uh, coming out yesterday was, according to a story from Associated Press, Diamondbacks General Manager Mike Hazen said that he met with pitcher Jordan Montgomery in an effort to move past Ken Kendrick's criticism from a radio interview that he did. And I mean, of course, we know that there is some contention there. There is a lot of disappointment. And I think the first person that would be disappointed with the performance from last season

is Jordan himself. And I think he said it quite a bit. But interesting, not interesting. What are your thoughts about Mike Hazen having to meet with him in regards to this? it's hayton's doing his job right yeah i mean that's that's his role is to um i mean unless something crazy happens which i couldn't see i mean even a trade they would have to eat a lot of that money jordan montgomery is going to be on this team next year he's accepting that that option for 22 23 million dollars um but ultimately man like it would be much worse in a bigger city right this

criticism of this performance so like my thing is like we don't get a lot of drama like that in a z where an owner like Ken hasn't really been that partial to a guy, at least for me. Like I'm sure he's made some comments here and there, right? Like, don't get me wrong. We could go down the list. But if you're in New York, if you're in Boston, if you're in L.A. and you perform like this, you know, again, quite frankly, he performs better. Maybe this team makes the playoffs.

I'm not putting it on just Jordan. I'm just saying you could say that about Alberto. I mean, there's a lot of injuries. This team had its ups and downs. But I see it as Hayesin trying to get Jordan right and ready to go, because like I said, from the last time I'm repeating this, for the first time in a long time, we have five starters. We have a rotation that can actually do something against, like we've talked about it. The Padres and Dodgers are doing nothing but reloading and coming back with essentially the same teams that are very, very good.

Well, in fact, you could even say the Diamondbacks have six starters. And Mike Hazen did make some comments about that that we'll get to as well. But first, let's put up his comment here in regards to what he said about his conversation. with Jordan Montgomery. Haysen said, I will say that he was extremely accountable to the season he had, and I respect that. I tried to be accountable towards some of the areas we could have helped him a little better. And that's from Mike Hason on meeting with Montgomery. It feels like this is going to be a story for several more months, right? Like just the way that this has gone so far. It probably won't be a story, but it just feels like this is old news.

And yet somehow it just continues to come up. I sort of wonder behind the scenes if, the possibility of trading Montgomery was was brought up there there was an interesting quote in that story from the AP that said it remains to be seen whether the 31 year old Montgomery will be part of the club in 2025 though Hazen is open to the possibility yeah just that just that wording sort of makes it sound like like he wasn't coming back yeah the default he's you know the team is maybe going to try to trade him but they're open to keeping him if it doesn't work out I don't necessarily know that that's true but but maybe that's something that's being discussed behind the scenes.

We talked about it at one point that the Diamondbacks could, they probably could move Montgomery if they really wanted to, they would have to eat, you know, significant money for sure. But it's not like if Montgomery were on the open market, he would get, you know, one year, $2 million. Like his track record is such that he is worth more than that. So the Diamondbacks, they'd have to eat significant money. They wouldn't have to eat the whole thing. It's just a matter of, you know, what are you doing with that money that you save in the process?

Yeah, I mean, for me, I think, again, healthy gallon, healthy Merrill, Eduardo bounced back, you throw Jordan in. It's a breeding ground for competition and these guys. I mean, all of them going into free agent years, essentially, or big payday years that they have to go perform in. And so, again, save the money unless there's an internal issue with Jordan that they don't like, that something's not being talked about. Again, I think this is a non-issue.

Again, we heard Jordan talk about he knows the season he had. Whatever, dude, you have bad seasons. We talk about the game is hard. He's going to take the option. I, like I said, I expect a big bounce back year. So I think Hazen's just trying to let him know they believe in them and they need him perform. I mean, this team, I think this team should make the playoffs. I've already said that.

I'm already put my stamp on it. So. I mean, I don't think that this the 2025 team is going to be much different. I mean, we do know that they're losing some firepower around. But in the same sense, like what you're saying, the starting pitching should be much better than it was last year, considering that their numbers ranked in the bottom three of baseball. And they were still able to win nearly 90 baseball games, right? I mean, crazy.

Crazy. You really is. You don't need that offense if you're starting pitching is middle of the pack or better than that. And then you look at bullpen. I mean, it's obviously it's the snowball effect. You look at bullpen issues. Those starters pitch a little deeper. You don't go to guys.

I mean, you know what I mean? that you can go on and on. It's a spiral effect. And I just expect a lot more innings to be thrown by, you know, these guys. Yeah.

What about Jordan Montgomery going out to the bullpen? Like not going out to the bullpen just to, to pitch, but hanging out in the bullpen and like finding solace out there. Yeah. I mean, he enjoyed hanging out with the boys out there.

Look, dude, you understand real quickly, especially if you have a good, no one cares, man. We're making a shit ton of money. We're making, like,

whatever, dude, people are wondering how they're going to get their next meal or pay their next rent or even come to the game. And like, no one cares that you pitch bad and you're going to the bullpen now. So the last thing that I want to see or I wanted to do is pout and cry. Like, again, dude, you're a professional. He's been in the league a long time. He's had his ups and downs in his career. It's just part of it.

Like, I would be, you know, again, I'm not huge into the numbers, but I bet if you look up every starter's career, I bet it's at least 50% of them. have made a trip to the bullpen before. albeit maybe extra ending games and the way games used to go, but it's just, it's part of the process of the game. And like, especially now you see the way teams do stuff in September.

Like you go back a couple of years ago and like the Dodgers had starters throwing out, Bueller closed the last out of the world series this year. I mean, there's, you know, crazy things happen. So I think everyone goes through this and it's either you can cry and pout, which no one cares about and your teammates are going to,

you know, let's make the most of it and see what I can do. And again, what it comes down to is pitching better. And you can't necessarily pitch better if you're being a crappy dude and crappy teammate and crying. So I mean, I guess what I'm hearing is you don't really seem to think that Ken's comments are grounds for Jordan Montgomery to be like, I want out of Arizona.

I don't think so. I mean, like I said, rarely does this happen here in AZ. But if he was in New York or anywhere else, especially on a team that was a couple of games away from making the playoffs he would hear the same thing like and again i mean this in the utmost respect respect it can but from a player who cares yeah yeah like i mean honestly like no offense he's not my coach he's not my bullpen coach he's not my agent like it's not affecting my money like it's hey i'll say this much saul bookman said worse to me to my face about me in life but when you

look at the comment the comment is looking back in hindsight a horrible decision to invest that money and a guy who performed as poorly as he did. It's our biggest mistake this season from a talent standpoint, and I'm the perpetrator of that. And like, again, as much as that when you talk about it getting turned into a story, right, I felt like from the perspective of what I saw, the story was turned into is Ken Kendrick trying to use these comments to make Jordan Montgomery opt out of his deal and feel uncomfortable here in Arizona.

Which is never going to happen. Which was never going to happen. But honestly, knowing that's a fair take. Yeah. Like I don't like I don't also I don't know if we discussed that before but I definitely could see that you know what I mean as like a mind move right like let's make him think I don't want him here. Right. And he's already complained about the environment in a certain way. He's talked about like not feeling comfortable here like just from the the weather right just from how hot it was. So like I could see that. I also could see because Kendrick is who he is that that was like as much as it was a knock on on Montgomery and a slam. And I'm. not going to act like he didn't know it was when he was saying it yeah it felt really like he was just in that whole context of that conversation taking responsibility for the signing of montgomery

because he pushed so strongly for it and like sometimes when you were the one that was responsible for something that didn't work out you're taking accountability and it's not in the best way because you're still throwing that guy into the bus but at the same time you're making those crappy comments because you're kind of like oh i suck and i like hayes told me that we shouldn't do it and And I was like, no, no, we should. And then like, yeah, now we're not that. What happened happened, right? So like, I do feel there's part of that in there.

But I also wouldn't put it past an owner to be like, hey, well, maybe if I kind of, you know, drop some of this way I'm feeling about this guy, honestly, on air on a radio station, it's going to get back to him. It's going to get, you know, back to his camp. And they're going to maybe feel like maybe they should opt out of that deal, which would, you know, maybe be the best thing for us. I also think that this is one of those cases where we could see Jordan Montgomery. go shove somewhere else and just feel like my god why did we get the worst version of it let's train him to the braves right yeah no see him for that comment i mean look again i said this right before we started it's easy as a former player guy still trying to play to say that those comments don't bother me right yeah but they they there are some hurtful words to it right like i'm not saying

it's just meaningless but you hear it the first time it pisses you off you call your age you know you and your wife are bitching about it in the kitchen blah blah blah and then like anything it goes a couple of way and then like you just you at least for me i start thinking about the positives and i'm also like all right i'm gonna show you like you think that's a bad investment you know what i'm to do i'm gonna go pitch so well and then i'm gonna turn down that crappy offer you're gonna make me next year because you're not gonna be able to afford me right like you know again like yeah i mean to if you want to like really break it down like man it's the worst investment we made like all right, if you want to get super deep, like that sucks.

But again, I'm always on the positive side of like, dude, I'm rich. Like, I'm going to be even more. Like, not to be like, you know, so cocky like that. But yeah, like in the terms of the world, like, I'm doing okay. Yeah. If that's the worst that has to happen this year, like, yeah. Yeah. And like, again, outside of us talking about it and then Hayeson readdressing it, like,

has it been a storyline since then? And any other media outlet, like. No, not really. I mean, these comments really didn't get picked up huge. I saw Barstall sports, I think, talking about it briefly. And they were of the belief that it was like, yeah, an effort to kind of get rid of a guy. But, I mean, again, if you're that, if that's what's going to turn you away, then, I mean, then like, you're the one that's turning down a bunch of money just because mean words were said about you. Like I said, I think I just know my time and I got traded in a weird way or I say it a weird way in COVID for, you know, whatever.

and like you just it's the game man emotions and just like us we all say things and do things in the heat of the moment and i don't know for me it's one of those things like as a player i'm not even concerned about it technically nothing ken said was was wrong in his defense right he said in hindsight a horrible decision to invest that money in a guy who performed as poorly as he did like true uh you there's no there's no arguing that right it was kind of a horrible decision for for the diamond backs mean but it's true exactly Yeah, and he said it's our biggest mistake this season from a talent standpoint. Like that's pretty obvious, right? I think we're all on the same page there.

It's just, yeah, like as the owner of the team, maybe it's not the greatest look to go and say that publicly. Hey, I mean, a radio station. I think, I think when you spent that much on a guy and then you guys fall one game short and he has the highest ERA of qualified pitchers, starting pitchers in Major League Baseball, I think you can be a little bit angry about that performance. Even if it wasn't a guy you brought in this year, I think you could honestly say like, hey we've had Jordan Montgomery on our team for three years now he really let us down this year like he was good in previous years but he was bad this year right I go back to like I said and I think it comes off of maybe losing to him in the world series right like yeah yeah you know and like you go get him and like he doesn't perform like that personally I mean again the debacks

always I personally feel like like when we go spend money like that it's like a everyone's on the edge of their seat on like, are we going to get the return? Because spending money like that is a big decision here. Right. We talk about the roster struggles and the, I'm not going to say financial struggles, just where we spend. And it's been consistent. It's not in the lower half. It's not in the top 10. It's, I think, around like we're 14 or 15, like literally, really, maybe 17 either way. We're in the middle of the pack of spending. So to give that much to a starter when you look at other bullpen areas and like, again, it's easy to say. But, shit we could have given that to anyone and paid the minimum and gotten that performance right

like I think some of it stems from like I said you lose to him in the world series although technically I will say that that's that's actually the one world series game of the diamondbacks won the game at Montgomery I just said the idea the idea still he was a huge part of getting the Texas Rangers to that point for sure what I will say is this we talked about it a little bit Jordan Montgomery stays here in Arizona throws a sub 4 ERA in 2025

I mean does it still make this look as bad even though last season was as bad I mean does do people start forgetting suddenly about last season I think even still this team makes the playoffs and he pitches some bullpennings it's not as big of a deal right like everything when you don't win or you don't make the playoffs everything is under a microscope

sure right especially when you come that close I would guarantee you if this team had to make the playoffs can maybe says something, but the comments aren't as deep. Yeah, it's totally different. Yeah, for sure. For sure. That's a great point.

Well, we have more on Mike Hazen's comments in regard to possibly trading a starting pitcher considering that they do have six and what that could mean for the Diamondbacks on the other side of this break. So don't go anywhere. Of course, make sure to check out Bet365. We got our nice glowing sign back here. And that's because it's never ordinary at Bet365. Bet365 has 90 million users worldwide and most of them are using it for live in-game betting

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Offer expires November 30th. All right. Well, we do have, like I said, some more comments from that associated. Press article from Mike Hazen. He did make some comments alluding to the door being open to trading a starting pitcher, you guys. Here's what Mike Hazen had to say about that. He said, we're talking to teams about starting pitchers because of the fact that we

have six. So teams are coming at us for players starting pitchers specifically. And of course, this just means they're talking, right? Like obviously the deal would have to be right. And this doesn't just because it is in the same article as Jordan Montgomery mean they are talking necessarily only about trading Jordan Montgomery. But, I mean, I think the first thing this says to me is it solidifies Ryan Nelson as a starting pitcher in their rotation and that they're not going to kind of do this wishy-washy back-and-forthing

with them that we were wondering if they were going to do where they're going to put them in the pen and then maybe call on him at a later time. You know, he's saying it's saying it's six. It's pretty clear that Ryan Nelson is part of it. It feels like Brian Nelson is who he's saying is the sixth man. there essentially. We could be trading them. Yeah,

that's what I'm saying. That's true. That's true. And that's what I mean, right? Like, I mean, again, that just you could talk obviously, especially considering the context of this article that Jordan Montgomery would feel like the obvious candidate here to be traded. However, his value couldn't possibly be lower.

And if you do trade him, how much of that money are you eating? Right. Yeah. What do you think it is? Yeah, it's 22 and a half. My guess is you're eating maybe 10, maybe 12. I was going to say close to half, if not more than half. Yeah, probably half, maybe more than half.

And then what? To watch him go, again, have success somewhere else and just have paid a bunch of money for essentially nothing? Well, I mean, the argument to do it is that you're saving that money, right? That's $10 million more that you have to spend on other needs this off season. And I think we can all agree that there is a non-zero possibility that Jordan Montgomery comes back next year and is not all that much improved. And you'd rather have helped, you know, you'd rather have saved some money.

and you know helped your roster in some other way than just having him come back i'm far too optimistic about him bouncing back i feel it's like you are you are we're talking about the wide receiver no i'm the same we were talking about it outside of the the r a we were talking about for justy what's his average innings pitch per season it's it's generally been pretty good uh so jordan montgomery in twenty twenty three was at 188.2 uh 2022 178 point one 157 point one 157 point one the year before that so So right there in the 170s. Yeah, he's generally been durable. And again, that was like the selling point of signing him.

Like a lot of people liked Montgomery more than Blake Snell because Blake Snell had these, you know, this, this really great ceiling, but also this relatively low floor and these injury issues. Whereas Montgomery had just kind of been the same guy year after year after year. But he was not that guy in 2024. I just, I think overall, you know, they do have the ability to make a trade. we fictitiously discussed about trading Zach Gallin there just because of that line getting the biggest return back, right? And I look at it very similar to starting quarterbacks in the NFL. Starting pitching is a commodity. Yeah.

And at least for me, the Diamondbacks aren't in a developmental phase right now. Like they're, or maybe they are. If they were to trade gal and some other stuff like that, but they're either in a win now or reset, right? That's kind of where I feel like we always talk about. So if we're a win now, young pitching is a commodity. Like we have done a great job, I think, since my departure or the middle of it of flipping the script of the development in the minors. Like we've developed really well the last couple years. Has that translated to starting pitching?

I don't really know yet. That crop is on the come up, right? Of the last few years. Do we have time for that? You know what I mean? Like, do the debacks have time to watch Nelson's struggle? I say struggle. me to go through the bumps of, you know, we've seen him throw the ball well, but still, I think, you know, like you look at what Scooball did this year.

How long did it take for him to show that form, right? It took a couple years of bumps and bruises and being on a crappy team to, like, find himself. And I mean, this year, you would take him over anyone on the bump, you know what I mean? Yeah. Well, and in regards to Nelson, right? Honestly, right now, like his value might never be higher than it is right now. That's one unproven about Ryan Nelson is, like, you loved what he did for you this year, but you have no idea what. he's going to be next year beyond and if he's going to be able to continue and again as much as

starting pitches in commodity young controllable years of starting pitching is a value that is yeah i mean you can't it's it's and the dimebacks don't really have that you know ever and so i'm not saying he's the guy i'm just saying we'd be stupid to not sit here and listen especially if you can fill some other areas if you feel like you're going to keep jordan you can't eat that money um or maybe you're willing to you're looking i don't know you know what i mean i just think it's it's an opportunity for a team that i were just talking about i felt like if you're in the win now mode it gives you some flexibility and creativity to do some stuff for the roster well they've done crazier things eating money right so it's not like it would be that much of a surprise and i do like the fact

that they don't want to like again just make that same mistake and cost the team winning you know again like with the bum gardener situation right where like they made a very tough choice that I don't think a lot of people really saw them making. Correct. Because it was just like, oh, there's too much money there. They're not going to put them in the pen. They're not going to, oh, wait, they did. They got, they just got.

Yeah. Just released him. And that's, that was a big move and a turning point. And that's where I talk about this. Like, I mean, it was. I mean, they don't make, they probably don't make the playoffs last year. If they stick with a few more starts, like it was important. They made that decision when they did.

It's still wild that that happened in 2023. It is. That feels like a very long time ago. I mean, right. Considering the season 2023 was and the playoffs that they had and everything. And he started, he started the 2022 season like really well. Yeah. Bumgarner had, I think, like a subject.

And I was struggling to get a job. Yeah. What a world. I mean, with the Diamondback starting pitching, I mean, again, they have solid starting pitching that you don't feel like they're going to part ways with if they're all in this year. Right. Like you can't part ways with a gallon or Kelly. Would you part ways with a gallon? Again, I mean, I did it's based on the return, right?

Yeah, for sure. I mean, like, I'll say this. If Gallin is healthy this year, I mean, if Gallen was healthy this last year, we're not even talking about it, I don't think, right? Because whatever. But I go back to what Hayeson said about Goldie and I think he could say the same thing about Gallen, you know, maybe not maybe, not the same caliber of player. But again, from an anchor. Not that different. No, not that.

That's a really big part of the scene. I mean, like, I remember, like, pretty much after we traded Grinky, we didn't. It wasn't like much change. I mean, Zach has balled from the moment he has stepped on the mountain. Yeah, he basically, because they traded Granky on the same day that they traded for Gallon. And Gallen was on that streak of like rookie starts of under, like quality starts in a row or something like that. Like it was, I mean, from early on, I was like, this guy's a stud. He's a one.

Like this is as in his demeanor. I still wish he would get a little more fired up. but I say you don't trade gallon, but at the same time, man, like he goes out and balls. He's going to be 150 plus guy. Like, I don't know if Arizona affords that. Yeah, that's what we were already talking about with the benefits to trading him. And I mean, again, the problem there is is that Gallen, Kelly, even, you know,

even Jordan Montgomery, they have all the reasons in the world to go out and have their best season of their entire career next year. The motivation is as high as it's ever been. And I think all of them, at least I know Merrill and Gallen like and Jordan, like, and Jordan. not as invested, but like they've been here for a while. They have some, they've, after World Series run and then missing the playoffs the way this team did, man, outside of going to make money, it sucks, dude. Yeah. Like sitting there watching these other guys knowing that like, damn, if I'd have played a little better,

if I did, like it, it hits different when you've been there. Like you heard Judge talk about losing the World Series. He said it'll stay with them forever. Yeah. Like that's a big statement. Like we talk about a lot of things leaving it at the field and going home and being a normal person but losing stuff like that and losing out on you know these years of pitching i mean i'm speaking from literally on the couch right now like it fades quick man like and you want to go out

and play and perform and ultimately like for me it's the pride of who you are and the competitor you are so so yeah i you know i think when i take a look at this entire situation i think like the the diamondbacks are in a good point or you know good place with the starting pitching situation it's just, yeah, the temptation there to possibly trade one of these guys and to try to decide on who you're willing to part ways with, who you're receiving phone calls on, all that. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if they're getting it on nearly all the guys, right? Like, I'm sure they're getting calls on Ryan Nelson. Yeah. I'm sure there's some teams that are trying to get that young controllable pitcher as well as, you know, again, as that Gallon, you know, that would be

very beneficial to some teams. It's just weird. Like hearing you talk about like Aaron Judge and stuff, I think back upon how. last year when the Diamondbacks reached the World Series, how there was like this, I thought I was going to be content with just like, man, I'm so proud of these guys. Look at how far they made it.

I can't believe they did what they did in Philadelphia. This is incredible. And then they lost the World Series, and it was the worst feeling I've ever felt in my whole entire life. I never felt sicker. Same. I mean, whatever,

first couple years losing nearly 100 games. Then the crazy wild card. year in this crazy confidence and then to blow that division lead in 18. I mean, I remember feeling like complete ass. It was like not only were we a playoff team, but we just led the division, proved to ourselves that we're a team. And I mean, just absolute meltdown. Carried into 19, we were scrow.

You know what I mean? It was just like we were always chasing. And I just think any fan base, there's no contentness. There's no, you always want more. I mean, again, we talk about it. Coach's teams, is there a year or two years removed from winning a world series? Series of World Championship and their coach is being fired. And, like, you know what I mean?

Like, Saban was talking about it the other day and I won't get into the deep of it. Basically, like, he was talking about Tom Brady and a few other programs. I was so successful because once you get to the top, everyone circles you. Everyone's looking for you. And there's no greater feeling than looking down on everyone. You know what I mean? And I think once you've got a taste of that, man, you try to do everything you can. Yeah, you try to do everything you can.

And so I think getting back to the point, like teams view what Arizona has is like we talk about they're either going to go in and win now or they have some really interesting pieces that they could use to build in the coming years. Yeah, that that has to be a difficult temptation, obviously depending on how next season goes. And the trade deadline could be a completely different animal for this team. But at the same time, like you don't want to really start dismantling it just yet when you did feel like you were so close last year. and you feel like you could run it back again this year. You do. And like I said, the expanded playoffs help,

but I'm interested to hear what you guys think is, well, I mean, and again, I'm saying this from the outside. As a player, I always believe we can beat everyone. Sure.

But like, how do you look at it with the Dodgers just won the World Series? Like, yes, a few guys are going to leave, but they're going to do the same thing they always do. They're going to, I mean,

like literally, they're already frontliners to land either Soto or the other guy that's going to post from Japan. Right. Yeah, Sasaki, right? I mean, what do you do? You're not, I mean, again, competitively, you're not playing to win the division. Yeah.

We've talked about that before, and I hate saying that. I'm not a guy who gives in. You're still going to play the game. Crazy things that happen. But you put on paper, even the Dodgers injuries this year, and they still won the division and won the World Series. Like, look at those guys are healthy and glass now as part of that road. You know what I mean?

It's gross. Lukey's healthy for most of the year. I mean, it's, and you could say that about dying backs. I'm just for as many injuries and for them still to go on. and win the World Series and win that division. Yeah. It's, it's tough. And, you know, so the Padres, again, their bullpins only going to keep getting better. They added some big pieces with Manny.

I mean, Tatease is a top five player in the game, regardless of what your opinion is on them. You know what I mean? It's, it's, oh, look, guys, I don't know how far as far as they say. Guys who got caught using steroids, there's an effort next to it. Like, whatever, you know what I mean? Outside that, it's over with. He serves suspension. You don't like about it.

Whatever. The rules are the rules. He's back playing and he's a stud. So, um, now I'm with the overall on the thing about Dodgers though. Like it does feel suffocating. And what,

what's, what's more suffocating is like, speaking of Ken Kendrick's comments, me and him tend to laugh about the time where he talked about Otani and him not being the next coming of, of, yeah, yeah,

Kenna's like kind of throwing shade at Shohei Otani for just being a DH. And then Otani went out and had like the greatest DH season of all five. It's like, all right. That's most of my error. Like, who cares like Kenzie?

What's funny? about it is that I don't know another team that could like have signed Otani and just theoretically lost Otani to do to injury throughout the entire playoffs and still probably not missed a beat. You look at the World Series and it's like, yes, Otani. He was the worst player in the dude. Yeah. What was it? Two first 18 in the world series.

Like two for 19. But again, it's like you didn't even need his contributions because that team is just so good. And that's what I think that's what's very suffocating about being in the division with that team but like I don't know I mean again you play because you never know I'm always saying that again from this side of the mic like as a if I'm in a uniform and I hear I'm like fuck you oh sorry I can't say that one so I'm sorry like I'm like you know like I'm gonna go show you and that's what I how you know like that's what you hope and I you always want to be counted out that's like right that's our that's our point

in talking about this I'm just saying like when you look at it that's why I always I think Mike Hazen has one of the toughest GM jobs in baseball. Like this middle, this middle ground of like, again, you could break this roster down and trade some big names for some big prospects and pieces to build. But it's just,

you know, like I thought when we traded Goldie, we talk about training. At what point do we commit, right? Yeah. I'm not saying we haven't. I'm not saying Ken hasn't.

I know he just talked about the money in Montgomery, but you're always kind of like, when do we bump up a little bit? Right. You know, like. Well, and we said that about Christian Walker. Like, again, it was the same comparison that you made about Paul Goldier. Right.

If you're not going to pay Goldie, then who are you going to pay in this clubhouse? Right. Same thing with Christian Walker. Like, I know they gave, you know, obviously Corbyn the long-term deal. And that was a very smart deal for them considering that he went out one rookie of the year. But when, when do you, like, who do you show? At what point do you extend these guys that gave you their all, especially someone like Walker, who was a waiver pickup and then ends up coming over here.

had contributions in that wild card wrong and dating back to 17 when he first started playing. And just in general, just has become one of the best first baseball, right? Three straight gold gloves? Is that correct? I mean, three. You know, I mean, it's just, again, there are times where, like, that commitment needs to be shown. And I know that there's guys like Zach Gallen, right, like that you kind of figure before we even get there that he's already out of our price. I mean, that's what sucks, right?

Like, and again, quite frankly, that's what's tough. is like the Corbyn deal. It's why you do that, right? You get a guy early. You got to get out in front of it. Or you get a guy like Nelson now or one of these guys that have been going back and forth that you can lock up for a few years past, past arbitration numbers or arbitration years, right? Cattel would be, I'm just realizing, Kutel would be a free agent right now if the Diamond

Vex hadn't signed because there was two extensions. If they hadn't signed the second one with Cattel, he'd be a free agent and he would get a heck. That would be a money. I mean, again, like, that's right. And I'm always for it. But like, especially after a year of you get hurt, gown goes out and balls. I'm just sorry, he's not taking a hometown discount.

It's just not. Yeah. Like, and like most guys aren't. You know what I mean? Like most guys, there's a few exceptions, but most guys' money is going to rule. And they'd rather be unhappy somewhere and rich or then be making 10, 15, 20 million less here.

Yeah. No, I know. And that's why it wouldn't have going back again to the Jordan Montgomery situation. no matter what words you say, they're not going to make someone be like, I'm going to turn down $15 million extra dollars, right? No, I mean, again, it's just like if Saul were to create, I mean, it doesn't matter, dude, you're going to get critique. I like this.

I like this comparison of keeping saying. So I don't want to talk about you on there. So maybe ask me, it's just, it's the world. And unfortunately, or unfortunately, fortunately, whatever, ours is always out in the public. like you know very rarely do you ever hear about anyone and you know being put on the plan improvement at their job and it makes you know yeah yeah the tabloids right like um but that's that's that's especially where we are now right I still think we need to do a skid on that yeah you guys coming to booing us at work um I will I will say this though in regards to the the pitching staff and

trading one of them like it feels like there's a risk no matter which way you go right like obviously you know there there's going to be a huge risk if you did trade one of these guys to see them go somewhere else, especially considering how on paper this pitching staff should be very good and should be very good in 2025. However, you know, you just don't know. You have no way to know that until next year comes. They have all the motivation in the world to go out there and shove. And I mean, again, if the Diamondbacks for some reason find themselves on the wrong side

of things come the trade deadline, hopefully at least they've been pitching well enough that they could yield a pretty good return in the middle of the season. You take last year's injuries. I like the depth. Unless it's just a no-brainer deal that's filling a big hole in a really big void somewhere. For me, the depth is always going to rule there's going to be a guy that goes down for something. For sure. It's just, I mean, I literally think the only team to pitch all five is like the 01 Mariners.

They made every start in their rotation or something like that. It's only, it's only. We just went through this last year, too. Like, you would think you would learn from the fact that like almost none of our starting pitchers could stay awesome. I just thought it's a commodity, especially young guys. The other thing with this for me is I just talked about this team doesn't have like if we're going to go win now, doesn't have a real time for development.

That's the time. These guys you have to come make spot starts. I know it's not consistent, but still you're around. I mean, if, if, and no shade does some guys. But if I got to come up as a young guy and be around gallon. Maryland and Wardow Montgomery. I mean, these are all guys,

I think all of them, seven plus years in the league. Like that's a deep old rotation in terms of like major league experience. Yeah, like that's very, very helpful. You know,

very helpful. So the depth, again, unless it feels a big need, I'm all for keeping the starters. Yeah. I kind of agree with that. We'll see what happens.

And of course, you know, again, Mike Hazen's comments seem to leave the door open to it being more about they're fielding these calls. They're taking them. Yeah. But the price has to be right.

That's what the GM meetings is all about. right everything's on the table any anything is possible we get to freddie garcia and jamy mire now no no we'll never we'll never do that but i will say this uh i like how my kays and said like sometimes they'll actually have phone calls with each other and they'll just be in the rooms next door to each other but they'll still like call each other that's just hilarious to me but anyway we do have more of course on who the diamondbacks would trade for and if they need to trade for a closer or again if that person is already a part of this team we'll have more on that.

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even if they don't go out and acquire a closer of Devin Williams caliber that we discussed the other day, right? but I mean it does feel like this upgrade is is needed or maybe not I mean maybe at least they need some upgrade to like high leverage guys and they can kind of turn to one of their big arms that kind of filled that role this season but what are your thoughts on them pursuing a closer over turned into like a j puck or justa martinez yeah I mean outside the seawald signing last year I don't know if the diamond backs and nothing against seawall great pitcher but dimebacks haven't ever gone after a big name bullpen guy really right so i mean pretty much yeah i mean unless something i mean you could name some guys but it was you know they were maybe a little bit past their prime i think mark malanson i want to say is the biggest manson i played with them a few years ago he led the league and saves a couple years the rachies and cardinals um gosh uh gregg holland gregg holland yeah yeah uh brad boxburger brad boxburger you know these guys are good i mean got these guys some all-star appearances here and

there. So I don't know. I mean, but why are they bad here? Why when they come here do they struggle? We were just talking about it. Like Jesse, what's my was if you take away all my runs against Colorado. Yeah. We did this before the show. Archie made me look this up. So if we yeah, if we take away all of the runs he gave up against the Rockies in general, a home or road, then your your career ERA goes from 403 to 387. I go and that's just Colorado. which was very good in your time. I don't think the NL. West gets enough credit for how good of baseball we're playing here in the West Coast. I think the NLE East obviously has changed a little bit, but still the Yankees, the NLEs with the Braves and the Phillies, you know, over there.

But, dude, the Dodgers, the Padres, even though the Rockies years I talk about, like from 15 to 20, the Rockies have to be a top five offense. MVP candidates. I mean, it's a tough place to play. A tough ball. The ball flies at Dodgers State and the ball flies in Colorado. San Fran is huge. Colorado is huge. Arizona's a launch pad as well.

I mean, you're talking about just it's, it's tough. And I just think that the bullpen is, is such a tough, tough thing now. Yeah. Because starters are going so few innings now.

Yeah, that even compared to a few years ago, like it has to be down at least a full inning on average. on on innings per nine by a starter like it's got to be closer to four and a half five than it was to five and a half six when I was in the pen playing I mean in my time of watching baseball I remember like a period of time where six innings pitched by a starter was like mediocre like yeah I mean that was a minimum for quality start right or six is a quality start right like if you think about it like unbreakable records gallons quality start record will never be broken oh yeah I

I think it wasn't it more than quality start? It was like six plus innings, two or fewer runs or something like that. Whatever. It's just like the bullpen is so hard to manage now. So I don't know because again, like you take a guy like Jmart and is he closer material. Obviously has the arm, but is he more set up in a closer or in a setup role? And then you take Puck and like Puck has closing experience in Miami. But he doesn't have bona fide closing experience.

It's not like long term closing experience. He's a guy like me. He was a starter, didn't really pan out. Moved to the pin, high leverage innings, boom, he becomes the guy in Miami, gets traded over here. Seawald's, you know what I mean? Like, and then has the beard for it. Does have the beer. That's, I'm all on board for that.

He's right. He's right. And then, I mean, the last month of the season, last one and the half, I mean, one of the best believers in baseball. Yeah. So I don't know, man. Again, for a team, it's a big investment for, it's, in my head, it's a two. much of a risk for the reward. Yeah, it's, it's really tough.

I mean, relievers are, you know, the, the most volatile commodity in baseball because it's, you know, it's telling about it. It's one inning in a time, right? Like, you have one bad day and suddenly your numbers look terrible. But, you know, I think it's the diamond backs historically have just not prioritized spending big on the bullpen. And I think we can kind of understand why that is. It's not a totally outrageous philosophy to kind of try to piecemeal it together.

Um, you know, there are plenty of, of big name relievers who've gotten big contracts. And very quickly those contracts look disastrous. I mean, I even think about a guy like Tanner Scott, who, who's one of the best relievers in all of baseball and is a free agent this off season. MLB trade rumors has him pegged for a four year, 56 million dollar deal. Like, do I want to pay four and 56 to, to, you know, a guy who's pitching one inning at a time, you know, over that period of time. Is the VLO going to drop? You know, is the stuff going to drop off? at some point. There's just a lot of risk with these kind of deals. So it's a little hard for me to

imagine the Diamondbacks kind of shooting, you know, shooting for the moon when it comes to their bullpen search. But I also think they're the type of team that really values having some experience in that role. Paul Seawald was so, we've talked about that a lot. He was so huge for this team in 2023, even though he wasn't by any means an elite level closer, but just the fact that he had been there and done that and could allow other guys to settle into better. roles it made a world of I mean that you could that that's for me like what I think about with Sebald for sure and going forward is

whether it is Puck who probably talent wise and stuff wise definitely has the stuff to be the guy yeah totally I also see Puck in like me like man you can get multiple inings out of this guy you can the value for him in terms of getting more than three outs huge especially again for the way starters are going such few innings, but exactly that, like Fernando Rodney, Boxberger. It wasn't always the prettiest, you know, they weren't elite, but they were professional closers, right?

Like, and when I say that, I talked about that a little bit earlier on when we were discussing J. Mard and some earliest, you just understand how to throw less pitches. You understand when and where to do stuff. And, you know, you just understand what it means and when to give up runs. As weird as that sounds. Like you just, you're a pro. And like, there's, you know there's some comfort when that guy jogs in where you know he's going to blow some games that's just part of it any guy but it's not going to be this nail-biting shakiness where you know should we be making a change you know there's the toughest three outs in baseball and as much as it's great to have a number one if you have at least a top eight guy down there man it's it helps a lot right and it seems like I mean again the diamondbacks have

traded before and it seems like if if they did maybe make one of these starting pitching trades we talked about that maybe that could be the return in some way but even that seems like it's a little bit of a like unless it's paired with some prospects or something like that it might be just a little bit of a let down depending on the caliber of the closer that's why I still think like if you're going to go through all of that it feels like you could probably go with something like a j puck in house or maybe I mean I don't I don't know I mean what are your thoughts on like the closer by committee thing that Tori's kind of done. I don't I don't like it.

Yeah. Just because again, you don't know your role. I mean, that's one thing. Yeah, it just creates, again, as much as I always talk about our job is the pitch and we get paid to do that, like exactly that when you have, have quote-unquote roles in these setups, I mean, you just go look at

really dominant teams and the way they did it. It's three or four guys that they consistently hand the ball to you. Yeah. And same thing with the starting pitching. It's why I'm excited about this Diamondbacks team. There's some pieces down there that have that. I mean, Ginkle's been on this team for a while and he's thrown the

ball really well. I know he had some struggles this year, but this whole team had struggles this year up and down. Jamar got some closing experience. You get pucky. We talk about these young starters that have gone back and forth. I think there's again, that's where we talked about it. The pitching coach, the bullpen coach are huge hired because I really do

think there's a formula to mix the right long guy with one of these young starters that you want to get experience and keeping the big leagues as the long to expand, throw innings, and then truly piece together an experienced bullpen where, again, maybe it's not a bona fide closer, but you go add maybe what I'm talking about, a long guy or a lefty guy that, again, I just think there's enough depth down here to really piece this team together.

Yeah, I agree. Well, of course, we are going to start, we're going to talk about one piece, one very vital piece no longer being available in our final segment here. The Diamondbacks off season, it's all for not. Yeah, it's all for not. It's over. It's going to be distraught. We'll give you who we're talking about here in a few minutes.

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He's not answering anyone's text messages or phone calls, but any other, you know, potential trades, free agent signings, nothing. We could have gotten them for the sixth time because Alcantra has been picked up for five times now by the Arizona Diamondbacks in his career. Yeah, yeah. Sergio Alcantra, people might remember, is in some pictures from the World Series because he was on the taxi school. The D-BACS inevitably signed him to a minor league deal shortly before the playoffs began.

And then last season, I think it was in April, they traded, they made a trade with the Pittsburgh Pirates to acquire Alcontera for cash considerations. And he was in, I think he was in AAA basically the entire season serving as, serving as minor league depth for them. So, yeah, so far, Mike Hazen has acquired surgery Alcantra five times. and I still feel like we're going to see a six. Oh, without a doubt. I don't doubt it one bit. I don't doubt it one bit. There's just like in all,

all minor league teams have guys like that. Truly they do. Like death pieces that they just are so in on. I mean, this respectfully to Sergio and these guys that get late, but like you're not getting anything more. You know exactly who this player is. And they're,

they're pros for not being full-time big leaguers. Yeah. You know what I mean? They stay ready. and they're available whenever you need them to come in and still in. They're not going to blow you away, but they'll at least be able to play some serviceable defense. Sergio, I will say about Sergio,

he's got a cannon. He does. He does. He does. He does. Play third base is like, whoa, oh my gosh. Yeah, offensively, you know. Not so much.

Not so much. There's a reason he's in that role. But he's a solid depth piece and maybe you find this way back to the Diamondbacks. I don't doubt it. It's just like I don't doubt that this man will. actually get involved in some sort of actual rodeo event tonight at Chase Field. Got the rodeo, the Honda.

I mean, you know, it'll be my first time back down on Chase Field since 2022, I think, was. Last time you were on the field? Yeah, it's a funny story. We played, the Phillies were back and I got honored at Chase Field. It was like a Wednesday game. There was like 6,000 people there, but all 6,000 gave me a standing ovation at night. But it'll be my first time back.

on the field, not playing baseball. So that would be pretty cool. And I don't know if you've seen any of the hype videos, but seeing the transformation It's pretty exciting. It's pretty cool, man. That's where, you know, I'm all on board with let's let's get this stadium fixed. Like, let's obviously keep the debacks here. But let's, you know, part of building your fan bases is providing an experience that they love.

And I think Chasefield is really cool to be able to offer stuff like this. So let's, let's keep this going. You should come out. It's going to be cool. The concerts, the rodeo. Yeah. million dollar purse for these guys it's wild yeah like honestly i i hate to say this i thought when again i've seen the commercial probably one million times this baseball season but like i didn't

really like think about it being like an actual rodeo i thought it was going to be like some sort of like i don't know i guess like show but no like it's an actual competitive radio like when i go home and put jeans and boots on there i got that's the show but i mean i am from oklahoma I was going to say act like I I'm just saying compared to what these guys are real country I'm not a cowboy out on night and these cowboys are like this guy he's not a cowboy man if you exactly it's a dead giveaway I did an interview with one of the riders last week we were just chatting he's a bear back horse rider oh wow um is that like a category yeah we have bear back no saddle like wow and we were just you know going through injuries and I was like oh my

God, I know. How's your help? This ACL, this MCL, this elbow. I mean, these guys are their G's, man. If you've never been down on the shoes at a rodeo, too, I would highly recommend, man. Again, Phoenix, the weather's great. What better time than to come down to Chase Field and get to experience something that, you know,

isn't baseball inside of a baseball season. Hell yeah. You got Hank Williams Jr. Hank Williams Jr., Whiskey Myers tonight. I think Brooks and Dunn is also performing Zach Brown Band. This is just the start, the Honorable. is an amazing group that have done some amazing things. And I think it's it's a note and a nod to us as people from the Valley in Phoenix that they chose this place.

I know from the inside they could have picked a lot of different venues and a lot of different places to have this rodeo. And they chose Phoenix because of the people and the support they think they're going to get for this rodeo. I'll tell you. So some of the most. It's going to say some of the most electric times I've had has been at a rodeo. so go go out have a fun time uh and i mean i i think it's worth the price of the ticket uh did you see that mad bump can finally win something at takes field what was it mason uh yeah you got it's mason saunders that was a good one oh cam that one got me i got me

red face there uh again come see the come see the rodeo the entire infields been converted into some sort of some sort of rodeo in field now. So it's going to be a great time. Check out this guy there tonight. Of course. No. He's going to be laughing about that for a long time, cam. So I'm good. I'm going to touch later.

We do appreciate you guys stopping by. We will see you of course tomorrow for another show. You can follow us all on social media on X, I guess. Oh, I shouldn't have done that. Yeah. So, wow. It's because of these all these things. keep putting up. But on Twitter, that's what I'm going back to. I might cap underscore

K-man with K. This man is at Jesse and Friedman. Of course, you can get him on Twitter, Archie Bradley 7, but mostly find him on Instagram because he's always doing for the rodeo follow the stories. Yeah, yeah. It's going to be a blast. He'll keep you up to date on everything going on over there. Of course, our guy, Shane on the ones and twos is at Shane Deef.

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