PHNX Arizona Diamondbacks Podcast - MLB legend Miguel Cabrera announces 2023 will be the final season of his 20-year career

Episode Date: November 29, 2022

MLB prepares to say goodbye to Miguel Cabrera while chess prepares to say hello to Joey Votto. Also, we are discussing an electric home run derby in Venezuela and Jesse’s review of Field of Dreams.BUY D-BACKS TICKETS HERE: https://gametime.hnyj8s.net/c/3442941/1410622/10874 SUBSCRIBE to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/phnx_youtubeALL THINGS PHNX: http://linktr.ee/phnxsports PHNX: ICYM our Cyber Monday sale, we still have new hoodies and t-shirts including Diehard merch and even Phoe-Knux swag. Check it all out at https://phnxlocker.com/.DraftKings: Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app now (https://bit.ly/3Jl1dMX), use promo code PHNX and make your first deposit of FIVE DOLLARS and get TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS in FREE BETS INSTANTLY! For every leg you add you can boost your winnings up to ONE HUNDRED percent!If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisiscounseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visitOPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NJ/NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. Min. $5 deposit required. Eligibility restrictions apply. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details.OGeez!: Enter the “Flavoring Life” sweepstakes. One winner will receive 3 bags of OGeez, an OGeez! Hat, a PHNX shirt of your choice, and a PHNX annual membership. Sign up at gophnx.com or visit https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfIplqDYsxYeiotn5Zc6hRahaX0a5qG99eHVzkhOlGZDRdgUA/viewform. Must be 21 years or older to purchase.Underdog Fantasy: Sign up for Underdog Fantasy today! Go to the link https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-phnx and use promo code “PHNX” to receive a deposit match up to $100Four Peaks: We are teaming up with Four Peaks to host all US and Mexico World Cup matches at their 8th Street Pub. Enjoy beer specials, giveaways, guest appearances, and more while watching on their 22’ jumbo screen. Click here to register for free: https://www.eventbrite.com/cc/phnx-2022-world-cup-watch-parties-1329339Enter to win the “Toast of the Month” sweepstakes to win a $50 Four Peaks gift card, a PHNX shirt of your choice, and a PHNX annual membership. Go to goPHNX.Com or visit https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfOabxo8KQxOWwn9wTilMBuTMAJdrL0CaH9lzfuJqgKN9vfSg/viewform Must be 21 or older. Enjoy responsibly. Bad Birdie: Use code “PHNXBadBirdie” for 15% off your next order https://glnk.io/7qnq/phnx-sportsMor Furniture: Save up to 50% all through the holidays! Check out https://morfurniture.comLiquid Death: Get free shipping on all water and merch at https://LiquidDeath.com/PHNX FOCO: FOCO has you covered with the best Arizona Merchandise. Head on over to foco.com. For all non pre-sale items use the promo code “PHNX” for 10% offWhen you shop through links in the description, we may earn affiliate commissions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

USA, USA, USA. I'm still on this kick, Jesse. I'm sorry. I'm not going to not be on it. But of course, welcome in to another edition of the PHNX debacks podcast right here on PHNX. Rock flag and eagle, Gabriel. That's a reference you don't get, Jesse. Anyway, this show's brought to you by the fine folks in drafting sportsbook app. America's top rated sportsbook app. My name is Derek Montia, occasionally known as your mayor of PHNX. This guy next to me is the vice mayor. He's also the thunder stick, one and only, Jesse Friedman. All right, I'll bite, Derek. What does it mean? Rock flag and eagle. Go ahead and explain it to me. No, I don't, I don't feel like explaining to you.

It's always sunny in Philadelphia reference and you have to watch the episode. I'm not ruining that for you, but I will say that I'm very excited to watch the U.S. taking on Iran today in a must win situation for USA. USA is up one to nothing. They should be up two to nothing on one of the. the closest off-sides calls I've ever seen. I know this isn't a soccer podcast, and I apologize for coming in hot with this. I'm just excited.

I hope you guys are joining us here at halftime. We'll take anybody that loves sports to come on in. Don't worry about their halftime show. You'll get back to that soon enough. But baseball does share, Jesse, some similarities to soccer. I feel like it is a sport that if you're not a fan of it, usually, as you would probably attest to it with your feelings of soccer, that you feel it's boring. I think people think that about baseball

But if you're a fan You love the intricacies of the play You really are into it You couldn't even imagine someone calling it boring, right? Yeah, oh, absolutely. Which to be fair, I will say that I've come around on soccer Maybe just a slight bit

Primarily just because I've seen I've seen it's only for this reason It's because I've seen some of the celebrations like from around the world. Just during this crazy time. And it's very entertaining to see just how crazy of things people will do when their team scores. Because I don't know, like baseball is just, it is similar in some ways in that, you know, it's a long game and there aren't that many points scored, right? Which I think is a lot of the reason people find baseball boring similar to how I'm.

might find soccer boring. But in a sense, like- Things can change on a dime for both games, right? Like all of a sudden out of nowhere, these games can go from having you in a lull to them being very exciting, very quickly. Right, exactly. But in soccer, it's not like there's, I don't know,

like you can't, you can't like single and then hit an RBI double and, you know, or you can't like bunt a guy around the bases and then score them on a sacrifice fly. It's sort of like you hit a home run or you, you don't in a sense, right? And I know there's more nuanced and scoring goals than just like actually scoring the goal at the end. But, but yeah, there's something about the fact that like, I don't know, that moment is just always

so big. Whereas in baseball, you could kind of manufacture, you can kind of small ball your way there. But in soccer, when you score, everyone's going crazy. And I do appreciate that. And in baseball, when you go up by one, you can't drop all your guys back defensively and just play a defensive game and not really worry about hitting the rest of the game. You know what I mean? Like soccer is very, very different when it comes to that.

But Michael in the comment says, I judge people who say baseball is boring and I couldn't agree more. Couldn't agree more. Honestly, when people tell me that, my instant reaction is we are, we obviously will never connect. You and I will never see eye to eye on anything. But that's only because baseball is one of the only sports where someone can have a 20-year career and still walk away, Jesse. at a time where you feel like, really, you're leaving? Because MLB legend, Miguel Cabrera, announced in an interview on Monday that this upcoming season will be his last. Cabrera told MLB.com, I think it's going to be my last year.

It feels a little weird to say that. I thought I'm not going to say never, but I think it's time to say goodbye to baseball. Yeah, I mean, what's crazy? He still had a vesting option, vesting options in both 2024 and 2025. to do his contract. So it's wild to me that there was ever any potential for it to possibly go longer than it has already gone. This is a eight year, $240 million deal that Miguel Cabrera is about to enter the final year of, which still blows my mind. But yeah, I mean, Miguel Cabrera has just been an absolute legend for his entire career, right? He's one of three guys in NLAL history

who has 3,000 hits. He has 500 home runs, right? He's, probably the best Venezuelan player to ever play the game. So, yeah, I mean, he's going to, he's going to leave this sport knowing that he won, what is it, two MVP awards and was an All-Star 12 times, although to be, yeah, yeah, to be fair, this most recent All-Star appearance, not so sure that was totally deserved. For sure, yeah, absolutely. It might have been one of those situations where it was just an honor, just like it was given to Albert Pooleholst.

but you know what, I think these guys for the length of time that they've played in this game and what they've contributed to this game, they deserve to go out with that. And I think that maybe that was the reason why. Maybe they were unsure of Cabrera might even come back next season considering where he was at his career.

Like you said, he had the possibility for his career to be so old it could drink, Jesse. That's how long we're talking. And not only that, but when we're talking a 20-year career, his batting average is just absurd. A career 308 hitter. Over 20 fucking years, Jesse, he's a career 308 hitter.

I don't even know how that's possible. That's absurd to me. I guess I will go on to ask you since I'll consider this your generation because I don't think you and I have the same generation. But is he the greatest first baseman of this generation? I mean, Albert Pujols and him, I mean, that's, that's, that's, that's tough. I feel like you'd have to probably decide with Albert Pujols if we're comparing the two. But, but yeah, I mean, Albert, I mean, Miguel Cabrera is, that does, I don't want to take

anything away from the fact that Miguel Cabrera still had just an unbelievable major league career. And, I mean, he has some accolades that, um, that Albert Pujols, I don't, I don't even believe has. So yeah, I mean, there's a lot of merit in what Miguel Cabrera has been able to accomplish in the big leagues. And going back to your point about him being a career 308 hitter, what really blows my mind is that he's only hitting 262 over the last six seasons. So that number has really been on its way down for quite a while. But it was just so good during the prime of his career that it almost hasn't mattered, you know, how he's fallen off over the last nearly decade, really. I mean, his career is somewhat analogous to Albert Pujols is in that, you know, a lot of the damage that he did was in that first, you know, 10 or 15 years. And then after that, things have really, have really dropped off for him.

The only thing he didn't do was win a world or excuse me, a home run derby. He is a world series champion, but he didn't win a home run derby. And that's something that, I'm sure, eats away at him a little bit. That's something that he probably would have liked to have under his belt as all. those other accolades he has, but we did get to see in his native country of Venezuela. They had the Venezuelan Winter League home run derby. Ronald Acuna Jr. Walk it off with a win in the final round and be absolutely pummeled here by the fans or other

players storming the field. Here it is. Home run number six is all he needed. And the people go crazy, Jesse. I love it. It's like you said earlier about the soccer. soccer celebrations. This gets me so hyped. I don't know how, but we just need more of this. I don't know if these are fellow all stars, fellow players. I don't know who these people are,

but this is, uh, this is exciting. This is the, this is the only appropriate reaction to a guy winning the home run derby, right? And I'm, I'm fully convinced that this, oh my gosh, this should, this should trickle down all the way to the Arizona Fall League home run Derby Derek. I really think they should allow all the kids and everyone to just storm on the field on top of whoever wins. Okay, maybe they're not actually about to take that advice. But I don't know. There's just something about a home run derby. The wall is so small. You just step over it and you're on the field. That's how easy it is, Jesse. Yeah, no, I don't know. I need, I need more storming of the field by fans. Mark Salera in our comments, who was there at the home

Derby says those kids in all caps because, yeah, those kids were tiny piranha. And I could only imagine them storming the field. But yes, you're right. We need that. We need that in the fall league. This derby lineup, by the way, was kind of bonkers, Jesse. A lot of names you might recognize, including a friend of the show, friend of the divax, Eduardo Escobar in this home run derby.

You got Wilson Contreras, Eugenio Suarez, Lerreys, Lerreys, Jose Altuve, Glaver Torres, to name just a few. Ronald Ocunia Jr., obviously your winner in there. This is a, this is not what I was expecting

out of a Venezuelan Winter League Home Run Derby. What, do these guys not get enough baseball over 162 games? Jesse, what is going on? The only name that really sticks out to me to be totally honest, if we can pull it back up one more time,

is Balbino, Fuen Mayor. That is, His name is Balbino. What an incredible baseball name. Yeah. Yeah, the great Balbino, right? That's all.

That's, that writes itself. I'm looking at his, I'm looking at his baseball reference page. And Balbino Fuen Mayor, which I'm probably entirely butchering his name. I don't think you are. I'm digging the way you're pronouncing it. You're digging it?

Okay. Uh, I have him like playing some rookie. ball with the Blue Jays like like 15 years ago. And other than that, it looks like he kind of bounced around the miners but didn't really last. And so there you go. Now he's doing his thing there.

But yeah, it is wild to see so many recognizable names there, right? Eduardo Escobar is in there. And, you know, it's a super fun event, I'm sure, to attend. And obviously, like you're saying, these guys just don't get enough baseball. So hopefully not. Hopefully they feel a little bit more. satisfied at this point of the winter. Michael scolded me in the chat.

He said there's no such thing as too much baseball. Derek, you should know this. Gabriel updated us with this information. According to Cody Decker, Winter League, Ball pays you in a literal bag full of cash. Like, is there a better way to get paid than a bag full of cat, like a cartoon style? Duffel, like a bag, like does it have a little dollar sign on the front? Because I'm fucking in. I totally understand this now.

getting paid in a bag of cash. Come on now. Especially if it's actually under a table. Like if they hand you the bag of cash, Jesse, physically under a table. Physically under a table. Couldn't get any better than that. But I'll tell you what won't take a bag of cash is brand new. PHNX diehard membership.

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Jesse, I'm excited for this. This is probably because I was not part of this decision, I am so excited to discuss today's movie review with you because it's time for another edition of Jesse hasn't seen it. And this time around, Jesse hasn't seen, which shocks, shocks me, field of dreams. I say that because, look, I've learned not to be surprised by you and the movies you haven't seen. And I understand, again, that it wasn't so much like you being restricted from watching certain movies as much as you just not having cable and watching movies at all in any way, shape, or form, really. Which the reason why this, this baffles me because this falls into the category of being both wholesome and a baseball movie and something I would think that you would have been shown at some point in your life. But yes, I am so just excited to hear what you have to say about this film.

All right. So I'll kick it off by saying just like my initial reaction to Field of Dreams was what the heck is going on? Like what is happening with this plot, with this baseball field that all of these people keep coming back from the dead to play baseball on? I have to admit that coming into it, this was not at all my perception of the movie. Obviously, I've seen like little clips and whatnot of Field of Dreams because of the Field of Dreams game,

which I've watched both times that it's happened. And so, so what was your perception of it coming in? What was your perception? I thought it was, I thought there was more of an emphasis on Ray's relationship with his dad. Okay.

when in reality that, I mean, that does wind up being a big deal. But throughout the vast majority of the movie, that's not really what you're thinking about. The iconic moment of, you know, can I have a catch, that whole thing is not nearly what I expected it to be. It's almost a plot twist, right? I mean, it's supposed to be the twist ending that you're just like, yeah, of course. like I knew like that what's going to happen right I mean I I can't imagine in a million years being surprised by the ending of that yet I could also see them thinking that they were so clever in the way that they put that ending together uh not a fan not a fan of this whole movie but anyway continue

please I don't want to I don't want to get in your way too much here no no you're good so uh so we can go ahead and roll through some of the screenshots so like last time I just pulled some screenshots that I thought were interesting that are interesting talking points. So while Ray is building the field on his property, there's this crowd of people who comes to watch him. And Derek, I am convinced that this is more than the entire population of Iowa. There's no way that there's enough people in Iowa that just generally exist to possibly show up in this number. Right? I mean, We're in the middle of, we're in the middle of the country. This farmland.

There's not like, right? You don't have like neighbors living like right behind your house or something that are watching what you're doing. So this is the first part of the movie, uh, that really bothered me. I don't know if you have any, any thoughts to share on that on that point. Yeah, the guy's fucking plow on his field. Like really would a crowd show up to watch him make a baseball field? Could you imagine that?

Could you imagine gathering around one of your neighbor's houses because he decided to put in a basketball court? Like what in the fuck, right? Like, why, why? I mean, I get it. I get the mystique, the fairy tale that they were trying to create here. I get that they were kind of like watching a madman go to work who believed he was hearing voices in his head and all. Yeah.

Yeah. So, but still, to go, even if that's the case, you're going to go go go go cock at a man with mental illness who is just flound on his own field. Like, this is crazy. All right. we can go to the next screenshot. So here. All right. So number one, I think he kind of looks like Joey Votto.

We're talking about Shulish Joe Jackson here. Ray Leota very much so. Rest in peace, Ray Liotta. Absolutely looks like Joey Votto. But the most detestable thing, possibly about the entire movie, in my opinion, Derek, is that shoeless Joe Jackson shows up and he has shoes. He's wearing shoes. He's wearing shoes.

And I didn't pay super close attention, but I do not recall a point throughout the movie where shoeless Joe Jackson ever was actually shoeless. Correct me if I'm wrong, Derek. Maybe there was a time. You're not wrong. And the ghost of shoeless Joe, come on. Like he's really concerned about having shoes on. There's a legacy to live up to here. Right, right. Absolutely. So that was that was also just extremely disappointing. If we go to the next one, I'm just going to stick with Shulis Joe Jackson here because I just have lots of content about Shulis Joe Jackson and all the things that irritated me. So I was looking at his swing and the fact that he kept, you know, he kept just destroying the cover off the baseball, right? When Ray goes out and throws some batting practice and whatnot. But if you look at his swing closely, Derek, and I caught a nice freeze frame here, he is not at all looking at the ball.

He is not looking at the ball, make contact with the bat. He is looking straight ahead where every baseball player knows you will never make a lick of contact if you're not trying to see the bat make contact with the ball. So here's strike two against shoeless Joe Jackson. Yeah, yeah, I get it. I get it. Do you have any other Shoeless Joe random attacks before? I have one more. I have one more.

Let's go ahead. So, and this is just a launching pad for the rest of the movie, for our discussion about the rest of the movie, because here's Shulis Joe walking into the corn and he just disappears. And Derek, I need your help because I still don't understand what is happening in these moments when people go and step into the corn and then they just suddenly disappear. What is what is going on here? what is your what's your interpretation uh this is this is them like going passing on to the afterlife is it not is it like that's what i feel like it is right them ascending because remember this isn't

heaven this is iowa uh and of course that might be them going off to heaven i i that's what i always thought it was just them moving on because it's the dead people that are doing but why like but why like the cornfield why did they they specifically go there when they step into the like into where all of the corn is but that doesn't happen anywhere else on the field am i just supposed to take that as being that's just sort of how the system works deal with it this is one of those situations pretty pretty much pretty okay all right and i and there's a lot of people saying you're being nitpicky in the comments which i i understand uh you're really judging ray leota's ability to look like a baseball player but

But I will say this about this movie. I think that this plot sucks. I think this movie sucks. I'm not a fan of this movie. I don't find it to be rewatchable in any way, shape, or form. But what I did notice upon rewatching it is that the acting is incredible. And I think the acting is what makes this such a good movie in a lot of people's minds. That's what I feel like.

Yeah. What, I'm curious, what, what bothers you most about the plot? I don't really even know where to begin with the plot at large. I mean, I don't know. Like, the entire idea of that his father's ruined relationship was arguing over, uh, fucking, you know, the, his hero being a criminal, right? Like, that's ridiculous that that's the riff. Yeah. you to there's I mean there's just all sorts of dumb shit but I think mostly it felt like a waste of time like it's one of those movies that I don't feel afterwards like I enjoyed it

like that I watched a film that entertained me in any way right it's all it's the equivalent in a way to me of like when you find out at the end of a movie that it was all a dream sequence and the person just nodded off and fell asleep and none of what you watched actually happened happen. It's the same feeling of emptiness that the show lost left me with after watching

so many seasons and being in like chat rooms talking about it. All sorts of stuff. Don't even get me started on that. That's all other. We could do one of our G-rated shows about that alone. But anyway, I just, there's so many baseball movies that I love and I hold dearly because I just love baseball. So it's always a step up above any other sports movie if it's a baseball movie. Like most of my favorite movies are baseball movies. But this one, I just, I have zero desire ever to watch it again. It's easily passable, even if it's on TV. Like there's no scenes in the movie that I'm like,

ooh, I'm going to stick around and just catch this one scene because I really enjoy this part. But I will say, like I said, when you watch it, again, you realize how incredible everybody in the movie is as an actor. I think that's really what makes it an elite movie in people's mind. Mark says

this movie is the D-BAC's bullpen of movies. God, God bless you. I love you. All right. Let's see Jesse's, let's see it. Let's see it. Let's see your review. Here are the ratings. So we've got, once again, this is on the zero to a hundred scale. So 50

is like average, right? So I've got the music at a 94. I felt that was worth mentioning because I think it's James Horner who wrote the music. We used to do a bunch of movies back in the day. Yeah, the music is iconic. And I was somewhat familiar with the music going in because they played so much of it during the actual field of dreams game. There are lots of iconic moments in this movie. There's no question about that, which has been honestly probably the most fun part for me of just going back.

and actually watching these baseball movies that I probably should have watched like 15 years ago is just that they have so many big moments, right? Like, you're killing me smalls, is in Sandlot. And, you know, there were some more,

some more moments like that in this movie that, of course, I've heard a million times in other places and now I know where they come from, even if I was sort of underwhelmed by where they came from. The plot I have is a 21. Lunderk. We could go into it more. Act as fuck, Jesse. It's,

it's just kind of a mess. It was like somewhat difficult to follow. And I don't know. We're like really going on road trips like going all over the place because he's hearing these voices. Yeah. I don't know. Like there's not really like there's not really like a conflict and then a solution.

It's just like kind of him going around doing all these crazy things and his wife being on board because she's just cool like that, I guess, and let's go around and do whatever. Yeah, you're absolutely right about his wife and how much she lets him get away with for sure. But like Moonlight Graham was just minding his own business. It sounded like he was having a better life after baseball than he ever had in baseball. And you're just going around bothering this guy now to come back and have some

business and baseball. Like, what the hell? Like, I thought the moral was that he had a better life afterwards. words, right? Yeah, yeah, that didn't make any sense. And like, and there's also the whole thing with him being transported back to 1972, that the man is actually alive. Uh, there's just so many just bizarre things along the way that were very hard for me to buy into. Um, but yeah, overall, Derek, I'm going with a 42, which I think is honestly, pretty generous. I fucking hate that part so much. I hate this movie so much. Um, yes, you're very.

generous on all of your rankings, I think, looking at your rankings, to be honest. But I also understand what you're saying. Like, when you haven't seen movies, my daughter, obviously being 11 years old, hasn't seen a lot of stuff, right? And I'm not comparing you to my 11 year old daughter. She's probably seen more than I have. Yeah, for sure. But like, there is definitely this thing where my daughter, like, recognizes these scenes in movies that, or from shows that kind of made or i guess parodied or just kind of you know paid homage to these iconic scenes from movies

uh and then she actually finally sees the movie and she goes oh that's what this is from you know like i'm and it's funny to me for her to discover this stuff but like you said because of pop culture and and just everything uh you you get a chance to see a lot of these iconic moments if you if you haven't even seen the movie or have any idea what it's about uh Any final thoughts on Field of Dreams? I think I gave up on trying to find characters that were like you and me, but I will say that this might be the only movie,

at least that I'm aware of, where the best character's name is Karen. So just throwing that out there. I thought Karen was a pretty great character. Yeah, I can't argue with that. I cannot argue with that. Let's, Sean, if you could throw that back up there, because I do like the fact that you went after Shoeless Joe's, hitting mechanics. Oh, I did right. Yeah. Yeah, I talked about that before, which granted, yes,

might be me being a little bit nitpicky on an actor's ability to swing a baseball bat. But yes, we have a 27 on the zero to 100 scale for shoeless Joe Jackson's hitting mechanics. I also have a 36 in here for rewatchability. It's not really a movie that I care to watch ever again. unless I don't know. I thought it would be. Like I thought it was going to be the kind of movie where, you know, I wasn't expecting to be as entertained as I was with the Sandlot or with Major League. Both of those are just really fun to watch.

But, yeah, this one just what I was expecting was something a little bit more heartwarming, but like just kind of a nice sweet story. But it really wasn't. It was just weird. Just a guy disturbing the dead, basically. Pretty much. I mean, I guess the entire idea there was that the person he was talking about was his dad, right? If you build it, he will come.

And that's essentially what it came down to, right? So, but again, I don't feel like that was, I mean, I get it. I get it. But after a while, like when it kept going on and he built the field and they were playing and everything you knew you knew where it was going and so it's not even like their big twist will really catches you too much off guard but i will tell you this if you are going to watch that movie if you haven't watched it make sure to do so on some o g's edibles because that's probably the only way that you should watch this movie maybe it'll make sense to you if you do whoever wrote

the plot of this movie was definitely on some ogees at the time oh it was a heartwarming short story jessey that turned into a book that got turned into a movie it's your classic case of it was probably had a point and it probably got to it fairly quickly in the short story now here we are debating this movie you know 20 years later and 30 years later however old this movie is and my god uh i still don't find it enjoyable but maybe if i was on o g's i would and of course uh they have a wide variety of my favorite flavors uh of course they also have that sleep edition gummy so make sure to try out o g's especially That sleep edition gummy, aqua berry flavored and fantastic, give you the best night's sleep that you ever had. As always, you can find them at your local dispensary. Must be 21 years or older to enjoy and enjoy responsibly. Right now, right now, there is a World Cup watch party going on at Four Peaks Brewing Company. And from what I heard, as the kids would say, it's off the chain, Jesse. They are having a fun time down there.

US, I think is still up on nothing. I have no idea because, of course, I'm doing this show about baseball. Sean's given me the yes. So yes, we are still good on that. But of course, if you're down there right now, I hope you're having a great time. If you're missing out on it,

make sure to come down tomorrow, Wednesday, November 30th, kickoff, noon kickoff, 11 a.m. is what time the watch party starts. They're going to have beer specials, giveaways, guest appearances, and more. $3, Kilt lifters. and wow wheat pints and a 22-foot screen. So make sure to come on down to the Four Peaks Brewing Company, 8th Street Pub,

and join us for this World Cup Bonanza. We're having a good time. And hopefully USA can advance and continue this good time. Another person that was hoping to advance, Jesse, is a brand new chess player. Not sure if you're familiar, but brand new to the chess world is Joey Votto, professional chess player slash grandmaster playing in his first chess tournament.

This tweet went out from the Cincinnati Reds official account. We know it's official because it says official. Thanks, Elon. Future Hall of Famer, future Grandmaster, Joey Vado, playing in his first over-the-board chess tournament. And according to an update from his Instagram, Jesse, it did not go well. He said, first over-the-board chess tournament, wish me good luck. the Reds wished him good luck saying good luck king four hours later he says i got flattened by a nine

year old more like pawn nine year olds are vicious when it comes to chess uh i i've i've seen some nine year olds just go absolutely crazy uh with a chess board in the past it's amazing uh what some kids can do when they have the proper training uh i was not one of those nine year olds to get said training and I'm horrible at chess Derek. A lot of people assume that I would be good at chess because I have this this analytical mind and you know, I was the math major in college and all this stuff. But I just don't have the, I don't know, I don't have like the foresight that you need in order to like plan moves out and anticipate what your opponent is going to do.

Yeah. Yeah. So I guess what I'm saying is Joey Votto need not be ashamed. of his performance because there are many nine-year-olds in the world that could absolutely destroy me in chess if they tried. I think, I wonder if this was a case where he also didn't take this opponent seriously, especially considering that he's a professional athlete. And here he is in this tournament sitting down across from a nine-year-old. And there's got to be a part of your brain that thinks like, I got to take it easy on this kid.

I don't want to like, you know, look like a jackass coming out here and smashing some nine-year-old in chess. But then there also has to be a part that thinks, oh, my God, I can't lose to a nine-year-old in this tournament. And maybe all of that combined together for just a little too much pressure for Mr. Botto. I don't know. But I will say that I always knew I picked the right office MVP because before we got on air, our very own Sean DePaz was telling us how he's an absolute king at chess. of course, no surprise there. He's good at something else once again.

He was on the chess club. He has a chess trophy, Jesse. Wow. These are all words that came out of his mouth that I just am still kind of thunderstruck by. You know, I'm just still here flabbergasted by the things that he said to me before we came out. But I'm also really looking forward to Joey Votto's post baseball career because this, this for me, establishes that Joey Votto should have like a show where he goes and does stuff that he's bad at, considering he's so good at baseball.

And I would watch that show. I would subscribe to a streaming service that had that show available on it just to watch that show. So yeah, I think that there's a good chance that is post baseball career might be maybe even more entertaining than his time on the field. Oh, it's 100% going to be more entertaining than this time on the field. There's no question about that. I feel like Joey Votto has to be a prime candidate for like John Boy. I imagine we'll probably make a run at Joey Votto because he's just like so incredibly fun and everyone loves him. Yeah.

Oh, for sure. I mean, whoever picks up Joey Votto, they're going to have a ton of viewers because he just has a way of, I don't know, just being so entertaining when he's talking about baseball and his love for the sport and how passionate he is about. expanding the game and trying to get more more kids interested in it and whatnot. So he's going to be great for baseball wherever he goes after he's done playing the game, which it will be weird when a day comes when Joey Votto is no longer on the baseball diamond itself. But we might not be too far away from the end of those days. So we'll see.

We're there with Miguel Cabrera, who is a guy that I both forget still plays in baseball. and yet it will be weird. It will be weird that he doesn't play baseball anymore, much like Albert Pooholz as well, right? So the end of an era for both of those guys. I'm wondering, I'm wondering with Miguel Cabrera, like,

do we think that he's going to pull an Albert Pujols where his last year is not just, you know, like a sentimental, you know, farewell tour? Tip of the cap, everywhere he goes. Yeah. Like, is Miguel Cabrera going to come out and hit 35 bombs next year

for the tiger? and, like, carry them into the postseason or something is, is one last hurrah. I don't know. I wouldn't. Yeah. Like, I don't think that seems good enough, but that would be fun. It feels impossible.

Yeah, especially for the Tigers to actually make the playoffs. But even for Miguel Cabrera to have, like, a vintage Miguel Cabrera season, even that sort of feels impossible at this point, given where his level of performance has been the last few years. But I don't know, Derek. These baseball legends have a way of going. out with something memorable. So we'll see if Miguel Cabrera is able to pull that off.

I'd love to see it. I'd love to see it. So here's the thing. If you haven't done so already, download the Draft King Sportsbook app. Make sure to sign up and get yourself some free money using our promo code of PHNX. Download the app now.

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And also make sure to check Gerald's piece out on Damien Lee because he has a very good piece that is unlocked over at go phnx.com along with Jesse's articles that you can all get over at go phnx.com. If you haven't had a chance to do so, check those out because they are available to whether you are a diehard member or not. Well, that's all I got this today, at least for today. I got a U.S. men's national team match to go get caught up on, Jesse. But I'm excited for soccer and baseball.

I see you can love both. You don't have to just love one. But you can also hate Field of Dreams, even if you love baseball movies. These things can all exist in the same world. What should I watch next week, Derek? Should we pick something? Let's get it out to the people. Let's put a poll up on Twitter.

let's get some ideas from our listeners and our viewers and make sure we get everybody else involved because I would not have given you field of dreams to watch. I feel like that. No, I selected that basically myself. When I was hosting with Sean last week, I was basically like, hey, I think I'm going to do field of dreams because it's like so iconic, right? Like I want to understand, you know, why the movie literally has been turned into like its own game that Major League Baseball has done the last couple of years.

but yeah i'm i'm i'm utterly disappointed so i don't i don't trust myself to make these decisions anymore so yes we should uh we should get we'll go we'll go the people all right well hello and welcome to disappointment jesse of course uh in the meantime you can follow us on twitter i'm at cap underscore caveman with a k jesse is at jesse and friedman our shows at p h nx underscore dbacks but of course all roads lead to at p hnx underscore sports on twitter instagram and facebook thank you guys again for being here, being in the chat. We appreciate your time. We hope you guys have a wonderful day. We hope Team USA goes on to do big things. Of course, on behalf of Sean, the MVP, Jesse and myself, we always appreciate you guys showing up and joining us and remember kids.

Baseball is fun, but it's so much more fun when you have a 20-year career and hit 308.