PHNX Arizona Diamondbacks Podcast - Murrayball

Episode Date: November 25, 2021

On this episode, Derek and Jesse are discussing Kyler Murray being Rule 5 Draft eligible and your wrong answers for changes to baseball through MLB's next Collective Bargaining Agreement. Learn more a...bout your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:07 Hello and welcome to the PHMX D-BACs podcast right here on PHNX. I, of course, am officially known as your mayor of PHNX. It is I, Derek Montia, and I am joined by my vice mayor, the one and only thunderstick, Jesse Friedman. You're rocking the coyote shirt today. Look at this with a Roadrunner's hat. We're supposed to be betting against them, right? Things have shifted. But, you know, you do what you want to do over on the Draft King's Sportsbook app, which is
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Starting point is 00:01:02 I just know that things have gotten a little wild over there. I don't think that they should be winning as many games as they have. lately and I don't like how close jesse they're getting to surpassing the debacks on macaela's temperature check gauge for her phnx sports show i don't i don't want i don't want to be in dead last i don't like that wait so right what is the situation right now right now these in dead last yeah coyotes last and then the debacks above them right because at this point uh i think the coyotes have won three whole games in their season so what's the record three and what how many games did they play?
Starting point is 00:01:38 Three and I don't know like a hundred. No, they don't play that many games, but I know they've lost a lot of games. They're definitely, the Diamondbacks definitely have early, earlier success in the season than the coyotes have had so far. But, you know, again, what's the point of even talking about that so far at this point? We're far past that. And now instead, we're going to talk about Arizona Cardinals quarterback and former Oakland A's player,
Starting point is 00:02:09 Kyler Murray, now being eligible for the Rule 5 draft, Jesse, the Rule 5 draft, let's get him. I need the Arizona Diamondbacks to bring Kyler home, make him a hometown guy for both the Diamondbacks and the Cardinals.
Starting point is 00:02:25 That's what I want to see. Well, the timing is not in your favor there, Derek. The Diamondbacks actually made a waiver claim today. They claimed Kyle Nelson off of waivers. That's so close to Kyler Murray.
Starting point is 00:02:41 That sounds exactly. That's true. That's true. Kyle Nelson and Tyler Murray. Just a couple letters off there. Yeah. Yeah. No, it is pretty close.
Starting point is 00:02:48 You're right. But they claimed him today, which which brings their 40 man roster to full. They are a full 40 man roster. So I speculated maybe they were planning. And I mean, it's still possible. Something I guess could still change in some ways maybe. But it appeared they were planning on using their Rule 5 draft pick.
Starting point is 00:03:09 I mean, they have the second overall pick in the Rule 5 draft. It appeared they were going to use that to claim the 40th player for their roster. But now, you know, they brought in this pitcher over from the Cleveland Guardians, Kyle Nelson. He's one of those guys where if you look at the big league numbers, you're not necessarily going to be super impressed, you know, a 931 ERA this past season in 9. 2 thirds inning. Small sample size, just 10 games, but certainly not pretty numbers there.
Starting point is 00:03:36 That's some good minor league numbers from years past. So, you know, I don't know how much he'll exactly fit into the Diamondbacks future plans. But unfortunately, Derek, it's going to be a little hard for them to bring Kyler Murray home with a full boarding in roster. Way to stomp on my dreams. But again, Kyler Murray is now eligible for the Rule 5 draft drafted originally by the Oakland A's. he was the ninth overall selection in the 2018 MLB draft and Oakland signed him to a contract at first with a $4.9 million signing bonus. But the more he leaned towards being part of the NFL draft, it eventually reached a total of a $14 million bonus. So you could tell they were.
Starting point is 00:04:24 The Oakland A's offered him $14 million. $14 million. They tried everything that they could. He again, Jesse, he's the only player. in history of either league to ever have been taken in the first round of both the MLB draft and the NFL draft. That's insane. That's absolutely insane.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Because like, okay, like we have Russell Wilson, right? He was, he's always kind of compared to Russell Wilson. Yeah, he was kind of a fringy baseball player. Yeah, right. But he did, he actually played minor league baseball, believe it or not. I know a lot of people don't remember that, but he was selected in the fourth round with the 140th overall pick in the 2010 MLB draft. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Right. Not bad by the Rockies, by the Colorado Rockies. And he went on to spend two seasons actually playing minor league ball, which is just kind of wild overall considering how his career went and how his life has gone. You know, but yeah, Russell Wilson was also subject to the Rule 5 draft. The Rangers actually picked up his contract while minor, while he was still, considered a minor league player. Wait, like actually?
Starting point is 00:05:37 In 2013, like the Rangers, like, okay, but this was, was Russell Wilson a Seahawks quarterback by 2013? I want to say yes, he was. But I know for, so they just, I don't for sure, just for the heck of it. Well, let me tell you that then in 2018, which I can guarantee he had won a Super Bowl by that point. Yes, yes. They traded his rights to the Yankees. So if Russell Wilson ever.
Starting point is 00:06:02 goes back to baseball. He is currently a member of the New York Yankees. Well, I mean, with how the Seahawks season is gone and that's showing from them on Sunday, Derek, he might well want to take that offer. Yeah, I mean, it's not a terrible offer. It's not a terrible offer.
Starting point is 00:06:19 But Jesse, here's the thing. Just, I mean, it's kind of wild to think about this. Like, why do we do this? Why do we do this with someone that is obviously committed to another sport? I get that they could potentially, like, it could potentially not work out in football.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Just for instance, I'm not talking about like a Kyler Murray or a Russell Wilson, obviously, right? But like Josh Rosen, for instance, right? Josh Rosen was drafted by the Cardinals. He kind of got passed around and he was quickly forgotten about in NFL. I don't even know where Josh Rosen currently plays in NFL or if he still plays, right? So a guy like that could potentially want to say, screw it. I'm going to go back to baseball if he's a two.
Starting point is 00:07:02 sport athlete. So this is hypothetical. Was Josh Rosen a baseball player? No, no, no. I was just using Josh Rosen as an example because as a crappy football player who theoretically might want to. You said crappy. You said crappy.
Starting point is 00:07:16 I was trying to avoid crappy. I was just going to say somebody that like was drafted pretty high and then kind of got passed around. It had a lack of success. And again, like I said, I have no idea even where he currently plays. Right. But, you know, I, I know for a fact that Kyler Murray. will have more success than that, you know, but, you know, just for fun, let's just think about this, you know.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Let's let's think about some terrible things. You know, like we said, the Yankees currently have possession over Russell Wilson. So, I mean, this could happen. We could say, Kyler Murray and the real funny. We never should have given you access to our incredible graphics team, Derek, because the things that you make them do are just dangerous for my side. My mind is a terrible place. You don't want to walk around in there. But if you want to talk about,
Starting point is 00:08:07 if you want to talk about those absolutely, absolutely terrible images, what about this? Oh my God. Yeah. You did not do that. Yeah, that's awful.
Starting point is 00:08:18 I don't like that one bit on so many levels. Oh, that's so gross. Oh, I don't like it. I don't like it, Jesse. I don't like it one bit. I don't know why I made them do this. Do you have one with them in a D-backs uniform at least? If you want it, yeah, I got that.
Starting point is 00:08:32 There you go. Oh, wow. You really came prepared, Derek. Okay. Yeah. Well, because, you know, despite your, despite your challenges of the ability, the D-Wax at any point right now could kick one single guy off their 40-man roster, Jesse. One single guy just to make space for Kyle Murray. That's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I know that might be too much to ask. I know there's no way that he would even play a spring training game. But you know what? I want it. So let me at least make our graphics team dream it up. You know, could they do like, you know, you know, those like one day contracts that they'll do for people, you know, like people going through different health struggles or, you know, kids going through a hard situation or something. Sometimes they'll sign them to a one day contract and let them walk around and whatnot. I think the Diamond Back should do that with Kyler Murray, right?
Starting point is 00:09:22 Just bring in some positivity. Just, you know, just just have them around the clubhouse for a day, right? I mean, that couldn't hurt, right? I mean, I'm not against that. I'm not against that. But if you remember, there was a time during the playoffs run where the Arizona Diamondbacks invited members of the Phoenix Suns team that were currently on a pretty good playoffs run to come over and wear some Serpientas jerseys. And we all know how that is. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:56 So I guess I'm not trying to say. say let's keep our stink off of the winning teams right now, but maybe that's the direction that we should be leaning. And I don't know what direction you're leaning right now, but let's be honest, I hope you're winning, and I hope you're winning using the Draft King's Sportsbook app. Right now on the Draft King Sportsbook app, you can use our code of P.A.NX. And, you know, right here, right now, around this time of the year, you can be thankful for free bets. That's right. The Draft King Sportsbook app, the official sports betting partner of Thanksgiving, I don't think I'm allowed to say that.
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Starting point is 00:11:52 Best of all, you can deposit and draw your time. cash whenever you want. That code again was PHNX to get that $100 in free bets for just betting $1 or more on any Thanksgiving NFL game to and as long as either team scores a point. 21 and over only, Arizona only gambling problems out $100 next step. New customers only, eligibility restrictions apply. Cedraftkings.com slash sportsbook for details. All right, Jesse. Well, we, of course, at times, we make huge mistakes on this podcast. No, we don't.
Starting point is 00:12:27 You might make huge mistakes. I've never made a huge mistake on this podcast. I don't know. I mean, you're very committed to some of your ideas and your thoughts, and I think at times you just fail to admit that you're wrong. But that's fine. It'll come with maturity and people like me. But I think we made a terrible mistake in this case
Starting point is 00:12:46 because we invited members of Twitter to provide us with their ideas and their thoughts on what they would want to see included. Oh, this was not a mistake, Derek. There's no faults of this. Or it's like the best thing that happened in my week. Oh, yeah. When you talk about the sunshine that you folks bring into our lives, this is definitely one of those situations.
Starting point is 00:13:08 This is absolutely. We asked you to give us things you would change about baseball in the collective bargaining agreement. And we specifically asked you for wrong answers only. Now, of course, not everybody understood. the assignment. No, no, they didn't. Some of you were just dead serious. I get it. I get it. But we're going to go through some of our favorite responses, whether you people were dead serious or whether you really just managed to make Jesse laugh hysterically. But our first Twitter response comes from Rahelio Adieta Jr. I hope I'm pronouncing that.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I think that was pretty solid. That was all right, right? That's pretty good. senior idea at the O'Roy. He said no intentional walks allowed. And the thing about this is, I don't hate that idea. Okay, but like how do you actually prevent that? Like, can't they just do the old school intentional walk where you just throw the ball? That's fine. You know what that requires, though?
Starting point is 00:14:11 That still requires you to hit the catcher's glove four times. Okay. I understand this isn't going to speed up the game. But I hate just the, hey, we're walking him. All right. because in my lifetime, again, being the elder statesman of the PHNX DBAX podcast, I can't tell you how many times I've seen the intentional walk go astray for the team trying to intentionally walk the guy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:41 But how often does that really happen? Not very often. But I've seen it happen enough times for it to be a fact. It is hilarious. I mean, it is like absolutely. Yeah. is hilarious. Especially when the catcher's standing up holding his glove out off to the side and the dude cannot hit it at all to save his life. Yeah, those are great situations. And I don't miss those. Again, that was, that's not to me a part of the game that really slowed things down. I mean, I guess yeah, it did. But I mean, you're talking like, you know, 30 seconds maybe like how long does it really take those four pitches? Not very long. See how fast I got you on board with that.
Starting point is 00:15:21 that. So all right. No, no, intentional locks. No more allowed. They're gone from the game. I mean, I don't know if I'm that on board, but it's interesting. It's funny. All right. This one from Gleason's goons at Josh underscore Gleason three says no fouls. No more. Everything is a strike. Now, he is suggesting here, if I am not mistaken, that this just like, like no foul. Like there's still balls, right? But if you win it and you foul it off, that is a strike. if you get two strikes and you foul it off, that is strike three, you are sitting down. I do not disagree with this idea, Jesse.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Oh, my God. I know this is a drastic change to baseball. A lot of people are going to like, but I am not opposed to this terrible idea. You know why? Because I think I'd get home in two hours and 30 minutes. That's what I think. That's honestly, I don't know if you would because I don't think either team would ever score a run.
Starting point is 00:16:16 And so I think I think. I think you might have a bit of an issue. Like, could you imagine every single time we get to two strikes and the batters, you know, you know, they're fighting off tough pitches right on the edges, doing exactly what they're supposed to do protecting the plate. And you're just going to tell them to go back to the checkout because they didn't hit the ball. Out. Out.
Starting point is 00:16:38 We said three strikes. That's it. That's, I mean, it's fair. It's kind of a weird cork in baseball that like a foul ball is a strike, but it can't be strike three. We don't really think about that, but it's a little weird. Not to mention the fact that, like, how many times do we applaud the efforts of somebody that has, like, a 15 pitch at bat because of his ability to foul off?
Starting point is 00:16:59 Yeah, yeah, like, that's just such a key part of the game, like, doing stuff like that, that, I don't know. But, I mean, it would be hilarious to watch a baseball game. Fowls are strikes now. That's the way that works. All fouls are all strikes now. All right. next one limit of five pitchers per game and only seven innings look i like seven inning games i'm not going to lie seven inning baseball is is i'm sure i have no doubt that seven inning baseball is
Starting point is 00:17:29 probably a very compelling sporting event to watch here's the thing with i mean it could be it could be 11. It could be 13. It could be as long as you want it to be, right? Your favorite odd number. Whenever, I mean, anything could happen, the more you add on to it, right? So it's like, I like both the, because there's something about that five pitcher option, to be honest, that makes me think of like video game arcade style stuff where you, you don't get this big roster and it's not like a normal baseball game.
Starting point is 00:18:03 You really limited to just this select few and such, right? So I don't hate that. I don't hate that idea. I mean, even if we don't extend, even if we don't make the inning seven innings, I like the five pitcher idea. I really do. I don't hate the maximum.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Yeah, I feel like if you do both, it's a little overkill because like, are you really going to use more than five pitchers in seven innings? That's a valid point. Your starter might go at least five or six, right? I think what he's trying to account for there is you still have the possibility that after seven innings,
Starting point is 00:18:33 it's a tie game and you're going to need to go longer than that. So you're going to necessarily. Do you not get extra pitchers for exchange? No, no, Jesse. We said five fucking pictures. We didn't say, oh, five and then conditionally extra. Okay, I'm on board now. Five.
Starting point is 00:18:48 You get five. The way you use those five is up to you, right? It's like a starting lineup, you know? And I get it. You got to name the pitchers and the players that are available, and that's how it works. And I'm not against that idea. So let me get this straight.
Starting point is 00:19:03 So we have no intentional walks now. We have eliminated foul balls. And now we've reduced the game to seven innings. Seven in a least five pitchers. Oh, Jesse. Oh, Jesse. We're going to get basketball a run for its money on how short our games are over. I can't wait.
Starting point is 00:19:21 I think we just reduced an hour off of the average game time by doing these things. That's probably true. Well, let's get crazy. I mean, let's get crazy. This was still, this one, oh, well, this one, this one's for you, Jesse. This one speaks to me. Yeah, this one absolutely for me. Just, can you, can you interpret this for the rest of us, please?
Starting point is 00:19:40 Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, I don't even know a standard way to say something like this. XBAS or whatever, whatever, I guess, is a standard stat. So, so Kyle here is telling us it should be what percentile players rank in attempting to bunt against the shift. I fucking love this one, Kyle. Which is a very, a very niche skill. but it would be hilarious if you attend a baseball game. You've got batting average.
Starting point is 00:20:09 You've got homers. You've got RVIs and you've got X BAS. How good are they against and bunting against the shift? I absolutely love it. I hate the shift so damn much. Jesse, I'd bunt on it every damn time. That's the way I would approach it.
Starting point is 00:20:23 You would never put the shift against me and my team. But thank God. I love how it's like an expected stat too. Like it's like if it's XBAS, it theoretically should be like like how. like your expected percentile like not your actual percentile it's a very it's a very complex statistical thing so yeah no i'm on board no for sure well and here's the thing is you guys could get on board with some of the newer content we're going to be putting out uh not to mention
Starting point is 00:20:51 the articles and such but uh jesse is actually going to be explaining some things about baseball in a new segment we're going to have uh i believe it's called baseball 101 with professor freebin Oh, we're going to be. Yeah, we're letting everybody know. And you're also going to get a little segment called meetings with the mayor with me, as if me being on the six shows a week that I'm already on is in the mouth. Yeah, they don't get enough of you already there. Right. I mean, they need at least another couple hours a week.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Yes, I know, right. So they need more content from me. But obviously, if they're if they're not sick of me yet on all the shows I appear on, going to be doing a little segment where I have a chance to kind of cross. over and just do sports related stuff, television, movies, food. It doesn't matter. We'll see. I'm going to go everywhere and eat everything, basically, is the hope.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Especially now that we get out of the pandemic, maybe I'll be able to visit more ballparks and do more stuff. But you can definitely check out all that content on go phtnx.com. Sign up to become a member. You can become a member using an annual membership, which will get you a free t-shirt over at the phtonx locker.com. Obviously, I've talked about this a bit. I'm wearing the t-shirts right now.
Starting point is 00:22:02 I love these shirts so much. I'm not even lying. I think that's the best seller right there. I love this shirt so much, Jesse. And you could get this shirt over at the PNGX Locker. This actually comes in like three different colors now, which obviously speaks to how popular. It truly is, not to mention there's another incredible coyote's design that just came out.
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Starting point is 00:23:14 We're talking baseball. Give us your show ideas on there. We'd love to hear from you guys on things you want to hear us talk about. You know, we're always up to hear that because trust me, it's the off season. I know we only have like two months of the off season here in Arizona. but the lockout and pending me and Jesse might have to just start doing comedy routines up here to entertain you folks once a week or twice a week whenever we do these live shows. We'll see about that.
Starting point is 00:23:39 But we appreciate you guys checking us out and sticking with us and becoming members of go phnx.com. But Jesse, I want to get back to some more of these ideas because I'm not done yet. Yes, please. I know we talked about some of the more reasonable ones, but I'm ready to get on this. some of the ones I like a little bit more than those. That's that one. Let's go on this one. Any game over three and a half hours is automatically forfeited by both teams with the teams being given with the wins, excuse me, being given to teams that didn't play that day or teams that were in the shortest games.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Yes. Yes. I love this one. Thank you. So you're just rewarding, like playing quick baseball games. basically. I mean, it goes back, look it, Jesse, we already talked about how much time we shaved off the game. At this point, if a game goes over three and a half hours with how much time you and I already
Starting point is 00:24:37 shaved off the game, what are we doing? Seven innings, five pitchers. I mean, if we go over three and a half innings, they deserve to lose the game. That's, I feel like, but here's, here's the fascinating part of this. So, so let's say you're trailing, you know, seven to nothing in the seventh inning, because apparently seven innings is all we're playing now. That's right. And, right?
Starting point is 00:24:57 And so, and, and the game is, is nearing your time limit of three and a half hours. But you're the team that's losing. You're losing seven and nothing. So you're just going to stall, right? You're just going to sit around and wait. You're going to use all your mountain visits. What a time to you're going to keep putting in all of your five pitchers that you can put in even though the game is over. You could just keep walking their batters.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's no intention to walk. So you just try to do as drawn out of a walk. Right, right, right. Well, you have to throw the ball in, right? But my point being, again, since you have to throw the ball four times in order to get the walk. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:37 You could just walk in run after run. Yeah, you're not concerned about the score because all you care about is trying to waste the time. Man, we just added added a layer of chess type strategy to these games, Jesse. Yeah. That sounds awful. That sounds awful. I don't know about that one. I have to ditch that one.
Starting point is 00:25:56 this one though this one's a keeper oh my gosh justin yardrow says making the path between third and home a slip and slide think of the plays at the plate i also want the catcher wearing like instead of a catcher mask like one of like a scuba diver mask with the snorkel that's what i want that's and have it half filled with water like any one of those would be anytime we use it right so there you go I don't know. I love obviously any idea with a slip and slide. I don't care. I don't care where you put it.
Starting point is 00:26:32 I rode a gigantic slip and slide, by the way, right outside of Chase Field a few years back. Really? It was a whole experience. Yeah, it was one of those like city experience kind of things where they come to different cities and bring a unique, fun kind of thing. And yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Right down seven street. Yeah, right down seven street on the bridge right next to chase field there was a gigantic slip and slide that you could ride down and slam into other people who didn't know how to properly go down the slip who needs the light rail right exactly slip and slide seven yeah you're getting you're starting to get on board with all these ideas next idea no drug testing jessey roids are allowed perhaps even encouraged and as long as the injecting ingesting of the roids are live streamed on twitch I like this for two reasons.
Starting point is 00:27:28 One, we're just being honest now about what we're doing. And two, I mean, he's generating other forms of revenue from the MLB here, right? Like, can you imagine how popular the Roids being injected, ingested channel on Switch would be? I think people that don't even care about baseball would watch it, frankly. I'm trying to figure out, like, which, like, who in baseball, what I feel like a lot of baseball players they have a lot of integrity you know they're just like good people
Starting point is 00:27:57 you know baseball kind of has that stereotype so like who who in baseball is actually going to go for it and be like yeah I want to just like get jacked artificially and I'm gonna and I'm even if it means streaming on Twitch everything that I'm doing I don't I don't know like are people make you more comfortable if they have to wear
Starting point is 00:28:16 let's say they're allowed to wear an animal mask however it has to be the animal mask that represents their particular team. So it's like a member of the D-BAC's got to be a snake mask, right? And so we're keeping anonymous who it is. To an extent, however, we are identifying which team they play for, thus narrowing down our ability to speculate and make false accusations of. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Well, if, you know, I mean, if some little guy comes out and hits 45 home runs or something, you might be tipped off at that point. Yeah, right. Tattoos are also very identifying, just saying. What else do we got here? Oh, we're getting crazy with the balls now. Throwing balls. Throwing balls are now illegal.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Hitters have a hard enough making contact. Throwing four balls in any at bat leads to automatic ejection. Jesse, forget the balls and strike things earlier. We're moving right on to ejections of pitchers. and you only have five. So remember, you only have five now. And if the count gets to three or more, more than three times for a single pitcher during the game,
Starting point is 00:29:28 then they will automatically be ejected, speeded up boys. All right, that might be a little ridiculous. I don't know if you're going to speed it up because you're just going to fly out run out player. There's, there's, we're going to have position players pitching in no time. I just love the image of, you know how umpires just get like, like usually when they throw somebody out, they get like pretty fired up about it.
Starting point is 00:29:49 You know, it's kind of like a big emotional. moment. And so there's just like this, this like poor reliever just struggling with their strikes. And the umpire just comes up and it's just like so emotionally
Starting point is 00:30:00 invested in just getting him the heck out of the building. Get him out of my sight. You can't throw a strike. I love it. It's hilarious. As you were describing it, I was thinking the other way where the umpire
Starting point is 00:30:14 comes out and it's like, man, I'm sorry. I got to send you. maybe that one's better you're right right i think that i don't want to this is a ridiculous rule that they enacted last year i don't believe it and i've been an umpire for 22 season but i'm sorry you have to go it's like yeah you just like he just like there's no part of him that wants him to see it happen he's just like just doing my job man you suck so much i just can't have you here anymore I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Them's the brakes. That's the way it goes. There you go. There you go. All right. One more before we go, because this one's too funny. But Diamondbacks Support Group,
Starting point is 00:30:59 which we all need right now, at Saddebacks asks, how can we really call this sport baseball when the bases are not actually balls? I propose replacing the current bags with exercise balls to fix this. Man, I love this for so many reasons.
Starting point is 00:31:16 first I love the idea of what slides could become, right? Instead of you being able to slide in the bag, you just bounce right off of it and the guy can tag you, right? Okay, so is the exercise ball like fastened, like fastened down to the ground, sort of like a base? Let's say like a half ball, let's say. I'm going to go like a half ball. So like half of it is underneath and half of it.
Starting point is 00:31:46 like underground. Yeah, the other half would be outside. So we're not, we're not, I don't think we're expecting like an exercise ball to roll away upon touching it or something like that. I don't feel like that would be fair. There needs to be some stability there. But I also think, like, just plays at the plate would be so incredibly good. I also think, like, how do you have room for an exercise ball? I don't know. I'm not trying to figure out the logistics on the room or the size there, Jesse. I'm just thinking about how exciting bouncing off of it would be. I'm also thinking like if the runners can get like a boost by putting like their foot
Starting point is 00:32:25 up against it. Yeah. Take it off against it. I don't know. Why am I trying to be reasonable about this? This is a ridiculous request. But you know what? We asked for it and we're accepting all requests.
Starting point is 00:32:35 And this is now how the bat that's it. That's how the bases are in baseball now. What if they weren't fast into the ground? And like if you slid into second base and second base just like, flew off on the center field. They're going to second base. Second base is off and third. Ahmed goes out to the bag.
Starting point is 00:32:50 It looks like, oh, he's not going to make it there before he gets tagged. He's halfway out to center field. They threw it out to the center field or you got to run it out to the ball that's now. Yeah. Out by the left field wall. Do we leave it there then at that point? If it will, like, left field is now that where second basis? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:08 All right. Well, now I'm on board with this idea more than I was before. Let's do this. maybe it has just a little pedestal that the ball sits in kind of like on American gladiators and then wherever it goes from there that's open game I don't know we're trying to make this game more interesting folks and we appreciate you for baseball is already a pretty you know it's okay it's I guess we're here for a reason and we like it as it is but you know it's great I love baseball uh well hopefully
Starting point is 00:33:38 what we'll see out of the Arizona Diamondbacks is some better baseball next season and I know I don't expect anything to happen between now and next Wednesday with that impending lockout that we discussed, Jesse, but I do hope to see NLB get through this quickly so that the Diamondbacks can get back to making some transactions. The interest in Kirby Yates that we talked about yesterday definitely has me intrigued as to the direction that the Diamondbacks are going to go as far as pursuing free agents or doing anything as far as, you know, improving this team with with outside help yeah yeah i mean it's it's thanksgiving derrick so it's you know it's time to think back to you know the uh the things in our lives that we have to be thankful for and sometimes you get a little greedy on thanksgiving you know what other what other things what other things you're out there that we might we might want to have and uh the diamond backs they
Starting point is 00:34:35 they've got a few things on their wish list uh maybe maybe come christmas some of those some of those things can become true. We'll see if Santa's feeling generous this year. That's a great point. Well, I'll tell you what I'm thankful for. I'm thankful for the acquisitions that they've made to the pitching staff. Not the pitching staff, or the coaching staff. Excuse me. I'm thankful for Brent Strom
Starting point is 00:34:56 and Jeff Bannister. I am thankful for everything, Joe Mather. I'm thankful for everything that they've done so far. Even if it's small amounts, I still feel like they are committed to the direct that they are going, which is something that I don't know if we knew that they were committed
Starting point is 00:35:17 in the past. I'm also thankful that, you know, not to attack someone like Cole Calhoun, but I'm thankful to see the Diamondbacks part ways with his contract that seemed, as you had discussed in the past, a bit overpriced at this point based on the market. And I'm thankful for them to, you know, try to spend money, hopefully spend money in a different way. You know, it's It's not about what you spend. It's about how you spend it. And that goes double for this holiday season, by the way. Go out there on Black Friday.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Remember, not all those deals are great deals. So, you know, try to find the good ones. That's my best advice. I'm a Black Friday Friday vet when it comes to this game. And it's the waters are getting murky. Even I don't know what's a really good deal and what isn't anymore, all things considered. But hopefully the Arizona Diamondbacks can snag some great black, Friday deals, which is what we'll be talking about this Black Friday.
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Starting point is 00:36:40 I'm sorry, Derek. I can't stop laughing at the thought of the thought of the umpire going out. It's just feeling so sad about ejecting the player. I just can't keep a straight face. I'm telling you, it's hilarious. Just asking for the ball from him, you know, like, I'm sorry, man. You just suck too much. We just can't have you here today.
Starting point is 00:37:05 All right, go ahead, Derek. I'll try to contain myself. No, no. Let it all out, you know. No, that's what we're here for. Again, baseball is going to be more fun based on our rule changes. And, you know, we'll also get some sort of rule change that we can get Kyle Murray playing both baseball and football, you know, Bo Jackson style.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Yeah, there you go. Figure it out. But again, all roads on social media lead to at PHNX underscore sports. That's on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Also, our show is at PHNX underscore DBEX. We thank you guys, again, so much for checking out the show. on behalf of Jesse and myself, we just want to remind you guys,
Starting point is 00:37:43 remember kids, baseball is fun, but it's more fun when you make up stupid new rules and try to improve the game.

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