PHNX Arizona Diamondbacks Podcast - POSTGAME: D-backs Pitching Staff IMPLODES, Allows 10 Runs in Brutal Loss to Marlins

Episode Date: June 10, 2026

The Arizona Diamondbacks’ pitching staff had no answers for the Miami Marlins on Tuesday night, dropping the opener of their three-game series by a score of 10-6. We break down another rough outing from Zac Gallen, a bullpen collapse that allowed six runs, and how the D-backs squandered a chance to complete a comeback despite home runs from Corbin Carroll and Gabriel Moreno. We also discuss big nights at the plate from Ketel Marte and Geraldo Perdomo, and the questionable decision not to use any challenges in a game where every run mattered. Plus, some positive news for the future of the organization, as the D-backs are reportedly finalizing an agreement with 17-year-old Korean phenom Junsang Eom. 0:00 WE SUCK AGAIN ❌  9:30 Ketel Marte causing problems again...  13:40 Zac Gallen is cooked 🍳  23:20 Gallen's shocking falloff  33:55 Pitching problems tonight  37:50 D-backs are afraid of ABS challenges  45:40 2026 Marlins = 2023 Diamondbacks?  56:10 Time's up for Pavin Smith?  1:08:00 Korean star signing with D-backs 🇰🇷 Limited-time offer! Become a Diehard for just $36: https://gophnx.com/intro-offer-youtube JOIN THE SUPPORTERS CLUB ➡️ https://tinyurl.com/yc6km2r4 An ALLCITY Network Production SUBSCRIBE to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/phnx_youtube ALL THINGS PHNX: http://linktr.ee/phnxsports MERCH https://store.allcitynetwork.com/collections/phnx-locker ALLCITY Network, Inc. aka PHNX and PHNX Sports is in no way affiliated with or endorsed by the City of Phoenix PHNX Events: Get your tickets to PHNX events and takeovers here: https://gophnx.com/events/ ALLCITY — including us here at PHNX — is teaming up with Big Brothers Big Sisters of America for an exciting three-year partnership. To learn more, visit https://www.bbbs.org/allcity/ Branded Bills: Use code BBPHNX at https://www.brandedbills.com/ for 15% off your first order! Husband & Wife Law Team: If you’ve had a serious injury, Call The Husband & Wife Law Team first at 602-783-8841 or visit https://husbandandwifelawteam.com/?utm_source=allcity-padcasts&utm_medium=digital-phx&utm_campaign=allcityShowNotes bet365: https://www.bet365.com/hub/en-us/app-hero-banner-1?utm_source=affiliate&utm_campaign=usapp&utm_medium=affiliate&affiliate=365_03485317 Use the code PHNX365 to sign up, deposit $10 and bet $5 to get $150 in bonus bets! Disclaimer: Must be 21+ and physically located in AZ.  If you or someone you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call 1-800-NEXT-STEP, text NEXTSTEP to 53342 or visit https://problemgambling.az.gov/ Gametime: Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code PHNX for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Shady Rays: Head to https://shadyrays.com and use code: PHNX for 40% 2+ pairs of off polarized sunglasses. Try for yourself the shades rated 5 stars by over 300,000 people. Circle K: Join Inner Circle for free by downloading the Circle K app today! Head to https://www.circlek.com/store-locator to find Circle Ks near you! When you shop through links in the description, we may earn affiliate commissions. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The Arizona Diamondbacks finally get their offense to step up in a game, and it happens to be the game where their entire pitching staff implodes. We have more on the D-backs losing and the pitching staff giving up 10 runs in this loss to the Marlins, and we're talking about it right now. Oh, my God, what happened to our pitching staff. Welcome in to another edition of the PHNX Diamondbacks podcast, live! From Studio K, presented by Circle K. Derek, there's nothing I like more than when you do the lot, the angry lot.

Because no one else, I will say, like, we all are copycadding Johnny Venerables live, obviously going into the, you know, the intro of the show. But no one does an angry live other than my guy, Derek Montia. And there's some real emotion behind that. Yeah, because I just watched our Arizona Diamondbacks get their asses kicked by the Miami Marlins, Damon. The Miami Marlins who singled and doubled us to death tonight. with six doubles tonight against the Arizona Diamondbacks and 15 hits. They beat the D-backs 10 to 6. And that was after this team mustered up a pretty good comeback to tie the game up at 6,

only to have their bullpen betray them. Welcome in to the show. My name is Derek Montia, occasionally known as your mayor of PHNX, and occasionally a guy that yells live, really angrily when I start the show. That voice you heard is my dog, your dog, not the Debex dog tonight, but he is Damon Dog, aka Damon Farrell on the ones and twos. We are thrilled to have you guys here with us venting about this frustrating loss and wondering why this team can never operate on all cylinders after seeing what they're capable of.

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and everything being the end of the world. Thunderbolt is here. That's all you need to know. And Albert has taken over the chat with his positivity. But you guys are all right to be angry after seeing what this Diamondbacks team did tonight. And why specifically they gave up, you know, this huge amount of runs to a Miami Marlins team, that to be fair, has some excellent hitters on it when it comes to batting average, but should not have been able to do what they did to this team tonight.

The Diamondbacks do lose 10 to 6. They do drop to 34 and 32 after having a pretty decent run, as you remember, where they went 11 and 2 over 13 games versus the NL West. The debacks are now 3 and 8 in their last 11 games. They're also dangerously close to 500 at 34 and 32. The story of tonight's game was that the debacks pitching was awful. Don't get me wrong. hitters were two for 14

runners in scoring position and it did really feel like a few spots in the lineup tonight were just automatic outs and automatic ends of any kind of rally, any kind of multiple hit complimentary baseball the Diamondbacks

tried to play. However, Zach Gallen was bad once again tonight giving up nine hits and four run runs and just five and a third innings pitched and the bullpen you could say shocker about this. also awful, maybe even worse than Zach Gallen tonight. Yeah, actually, surprisingly.

Actually worse than that Zach Gallen. Taylor Clark and Brayn Garcia have been very good for this team throughout the majority of this season. So I definitely say shocking from a bullpen standpoint. But the Zach Gallen, I mean, it's just what we expect at this point. Every Zach Gallen start, we're thinking we're going to get five innings, five earned runs. I mean, it's just a disaster. It's another night with four plus earned runs from Gallen and. that seems to be happening entirely too much.

But again, even with the damage done by Gallin, this team, if the bullpen was able to hold this game to what Gallen did, this team would have won tonight's baseball game. So again, you can blame Zach Gallin. You can blame the bullpen. And even though they put up six runs tonight, you could also blame the offense a smidge for going two for 14, having all of those opportunities.

And once again, not being able to convert enough of those. runners in scoring position. But the debacks did get plenty of hits tonight. They just couldn't string together multiple hits for that big inning until the eighth. And when they did, they were able to tie the game up, but the bullpen immediately gave the game back to the Marlins in the bottom half of the inning. Corbyn Carroll did get the scoring going with a solo blast in the first inning. When I say blast, I mean it, 105.7 miles per hour, exit below, 400 feet to right center field. That was Corbyn's 11th dinger of the year. Good to see Corbyn getting into double digits with his dingers. And again, getting a little closer to being this guy, again, the 30 home run bobblehead.

But Gabrielle Marino, a known home run hitter, as I've claimed in the past. Slugger. He got a lead off hit. Well, let's be honest, Gabby's been kind of good, kind of good, actually very good, moved up there in the three hole. Damon discussed it while we were watching the game, but Damon doesn't quite understand the magic behind Moreno's stinking when he hits in the bottom half of the lineup, but when you move him up somehow,

he's one of the best hitters the Diamondbacks have. So thankful for that. And again, Moreno so far has a lot of extra base hits hitting there in that three hole, and overall just has been pretty good for this Arizona Diamondbacks team. Corbyn Carroll and Gabriel Moreno have each, homered in consecutive games. So there's that, even though overall the end result is less than desired.

So there's your one thing to take away, I guess, overall here. But Gabriel Moreno, again, he's just been really good hitting there and feels like a big step up from what the Diamondbacks were getting out of Pardomo. Meanwhile, Pardomo, excellent tonight offensively. Back to the old Pardomo that we know and love. He was on base five times tonight going two for two. with three walks. Three walks injected into my veins.

That is a that is that is a Pardomo night if I've ever heard of one and it's just great to see both Pernomo and Marte having a night with multiple hits where they were on base multiple times three plus times. And and again getting the offense going for Moreno. That was his fifth home run of the season there in the fourth inning. That one also got out in a hurry 106.1 mile per hour ex of below 417 feet. to left field. The Diamondbacks would get a run in the seventh when Tommy Troy walked to lead off the inning and Cotell Marte hit an RBI double to make it a six to three game at a at the time. But those were all just individual scoring that the Diamondbacks did. They had hits in between there and again, just were not able to get a complimentary baseball out of their offense tonight

until the eighth inning. And at that point, it might have been too little too late. However, they were able to tie the game up. Down six to three per domo walked to lead off the inning. and Waldschmidt got on by getting hit by a pitch. Then after Lou James Grover struck out, Tommy Troy walked to load the bases with one out, and then Cotel Marte delivered once again with a two RBI single to score Prudomo and Waldie, and that made it a six to five game.

Corbyn Carroll would come up. Derek, I couldn't even be happy about that because I just can't stand Ketel some. I need him off the team. Just pisses me off seeing him be successful. Yeah, three for five tonight. That's what some people in this supposed fan base feel. I still haven't talked to any of those people yet, but when I find one, I will have a

conversation with them. Probably a misunderstanding. Probably not a conversation. A misunderstanding is probably going to occur. Does it just make you angry seeing your team's best player be successful? Ah, yeah. You know, I hate it. I hate it. You know what I also hate is him claiming that he's injured and then needing days off. I hate that even more. Why are you, why are you, why are you, Like, honestly, let's stop the show for a second. Why are you trying to make me more angry? You already know how mad I am based on how I said live less than, what, 10 minutes ago? And now you're here antagonizing me with more talk about Coutelle-Marté?

You want to get me more riled up? Is that what your goal is here? Oh, so apparently Derek's the only person that's allowed to be angry, I guess, guys. So everyone else, put your nice guy faces on. Everyone be nice to Derek. Let's coddle him. And let's make sure he's okay. Oh, we're going to do that.

We're going to do that. We're going to do that. But, you know, when I'm angry because my team just lost a brutal game, and all of a sudden, all I want to do is say, is make fun of the people who are trying to get Catelle Marte gone off of our team after he was the best player on the Diamondbacks in the entire game. Yeah, it bothers me a little bit. I'm going to drink this whole ballroom.

and get us in trouble. I'm telling you after watching this. But yeah, I only want to talk about that. Cotel, again, Cotel Marte, he is just the guy that can do it in multiple ways. And the last guy we need to be talking about not contributing on a night where he did this. I'm just going to hot take alert real quick, Derek.

This is a segment on the PHNXD back show. We like to call Hot Takes with Damon. Oh, is this like the hot take about how like they needed to limit the damage when they were down seven to six? on the broadcast. Yeah, similar. Go ahead. I want to hear your hot time.

I don't think Cotel Marte is the problem with this Diamondbacks. Whoa! I'm just going to say it. I'm just going to say it. And feel free to disagree with me. Feel free to turn this YouTube video off if you want. But I think it might have something a little bit more to do with like Ryan Waldschmidt and Lou James Groover not coming through with runners in scoring position multiple times

tonight and Zach Gowan giving up. you know, a myriad of runs every single time that he has a start and the bullpen being a disaster tonight. But hey, that's just my personal hot take. So I just needed to get that one off my chest, Derek, early in the show. Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave? I mean, I just, I know that some people disagree with that. It's, it's all Cattel. I'm sitting here thinking, man, we would have won if Catell wasn't on the team tonight. Yeah, that's, that's totally it. Offensively, like I said, they get six. They tie the game up in the eighth inning. Bullpen blows it in the bottom half of the inning. And that's your ballgame, ladies and gentlemen,

the bullpen proceeds to give up three or excuse me, four runs in the bottom half of the eighth, and the Diamondbacks lose this one, 10 to 6. They didn't get great defense tonight. I want to say, again, I love Tommy Troy. I really do. I don't. know what the future holds for any of these guys. But I feel like Tommy Troy is like kind of a little bit too much of an adventure in the outfield. Once again, he missed making a catch on the wall and a Connor Norby RBI, a double that gave the Marlins a two to one lead in the second inning.

And it's not, it's not even like any of these plays or plays that I'm certain someone else would have made, right? I guess it's just having that experience and knowledge to be able to judge, whether or not you need to be lying out completely for a diving catch or, you know, whatever. This one seemed like a much more catchable ball overall. It was hard to see, though, because of the way that it came in up against, like, a video board wall, which I really hate those when it comes to Major League Baseball games.

I'll say it. I'm a crumption. But again, just another one of those times where you do feel like the Diamondbacks have been able to get solid outfield play when it comes to that kind of situation. Like we had Jake McCarthy last year making a few mistakes, maybe a few mistakes every now and again from Alec Thomas. But this team usually plays some pretty tight defense in the outfield. Their arms might not be the strongest, but they usually play some pretty tight defense in the outfield. And then Gallen didn't help his case at all, Damon, with that in the fourth fielding, that ball that you were talking about where he fell down and failed to make the out over at first.

Even with bases loaded, though, Gallen did get out of that particular inning without a. any run scoring, but he did not make it out of his first three innings without run scoring. And yeah, overall here, this is one of those situations where Gallin was bad, you know, on the mound. He was also bad defensively. That was a weird play too with that ball coming back right into his mitt and taking his glove off. Like, that was insane. And then I said, what did I say to you, Derek?

He looked like Velma in Scooby-Doo scrambling on the ground looking for his glasses trying to pick up that baseball. was a good comparison. And it costs the team a run. He looked like Buster Douglas looking for his mouthpiece, or Mike Tyson looking for his mouthpiece against Buster Douglas, that's the thing. We got Jack Summers here, I think, or a fake Jack Summers burner account. Fake Jack Summers is funny. I mean, I've still thought Mighty Schumann is a Jack burner account,

but Jack says Damon's 100% right. Coutel Marte is not the real problem for the diving backs on or off the field. You're not wrong, Jack, and you're not going to get any argument on this particular. killer podcast when it comes to that. But Roger wants to know why in the hell do they keep starting gallon, Damon? I would imagine that the plan was probably moving towards Corbin Burns replacing Zach Gallen, particularly in this starting rotation until the unfortunate Corbin Burns' terrorist major injury news came down because, yeah, I mean, clearly Zach Gallen is pitching

consistently the worst of the five-man rotation right now. Brandon fought. maybe he gets it going in Reno a little bit, but I wouldn't feel all that great about Brandon Fah at this point, especially coming up in the middle of the season. So, yeah, I mean, it's a scary situation. I don't know exactly what they should do, Derek, to be quite honest with you. I don't either, man. And again, you're absolutely right. They're paying them $20 million.

I mean, yeah, you're right. Like, it's funny because we've talked about the money they've ate in the past with the likes of Madison Bumgartner and Jordan Montgomery. They could do a Jordan Montgomery style trade for him potentially. Well, this is right up there as far as eating money is concerned, right? Yeah. However, they're in this weird position with this particular season where it does feel like they have to be all in. That's my feeling. That's Damon Dog's feeling.

Maybe the organization feels differently. But it does feel like they can't allow Zach Gowan to keep them from winning. It feels like they can't have Zach Gowan out there costing them a chance to win every. five days. The plan seemed like it was going to be Corbyn Burns. It seemed like Brandon fought to the bullpen was still also part of that plan. But when Corbin Burns got pushed back, suddenly you see the Diamondbacks making changes when it came to what the plan was with Brandon Fought, which just goes to show that they felt comfortable leaving Gallin in there for what they felt was going to be maybe four more starts, right, over the next, you know, month, but not comfortable enough with him now needing

to make 12 more starts, right? Yeah. Like it's it's it's it's it's it's kind of changed dramatically, right? Um, they, they probably aren't rushing to get Brandon fought back here. It doesn't feel like Brandon fought necessarily with the way he's been pitching this year is going to be the immediate answer or savior. It just feels like more than anything it's about if we have no choice to turn to

fought, we're going to, you know, uh, I don't really feel like they have the the arms that are ready to come up at a major league level and start right now. Mitch Bratt was probably the closest and he, you know, got hurt, right? Yeah, we don't know where he was at. He got put on the seven day IL after that weird fall. And Mayna are both hurt. So those feel like the guys that would be.

Mano definitely would have been the next guy up. Mena by far would have been the sixth starter. You also have Tommy Henry back, but Tommy Henry feels like he's on his very, very last like opportunity with this rotation or with his team, this organization. Like Walston, also another name. that they could turn to, but none of those guys feel like they're going to be ready anytime soon, and none of those guys feel like they're going to, again, be the savior of this pitching staff.

They just might give you a little more than what you're getting out of Zach Gallen right now. Yeah, I mean, truthfully, like, I don't have a lot of faith in any of those guys that you just named outside of the ones that have some injuries that they're dealing with. Sure. Christiane may and I still believe in a lot, but. Yeah, I don't know. I just don't know that, yeah, that you're going to be calling. up Blake Walson and he's going to outperform Zach Gallen or Mitch Brad or any of those guys or even Brandon Fought to be fair, right? Yeah, I mean, Brandon Fought's been awful

outside of his 2023 postseason run for the most part. So yeah, it's hard to have a lot of stock in him either. Top G, we appreciate you, sends in a super chat, 199, Derek says, where are the local hit pieces on Gallin and paving? Right. Right. Where are those?

I mean, I would imagine And, you know, maybe this is entirely not fair. But based off of Zach Allen's personality, I wouldn't be shocked if maybe he rubs a few people the wrong way. Like, just kind of who he is maybe just doesn't get along with everybody. Paven Smith seems like the most, like, tame dude in the world. I mean, I feel like everybody is like, you're not going to get a single person talking bad about Paveen because they're just like, oh, hey, how you doing Paving? And he's like, good. How about this weather we're having, huh, guys?

pretty crazy. Pavin Smith is round SpongeBob. Yeah. He's round SpongeBob when he, that's fair. When Squidward makes him normal and he shows up and he just, he loses the personality. That's how I, that's how I just assume that Pave and Smith is in the locker room.

I will say both of those guys are extremely nice, extremely well liked. I mean, Gowan, I don't know. I've never seen anything out of Gowan that would ever kind of back up what you said. A gallon is actually, if anything, too laid back, too relaxed about stuff, you know.

He doesn't strike me as the kind of person that really has a lot of hangups or a lot of things that would make him difficult to work with, right? I think Gallen has... Like I said, maybe that's unfair of me and you're around the guys a lot more. I'm willing to be open and let you speak on this office. I'll say this. And we're going to get into Gallin's performance as well as the bullpen here on the other side of this break.

But before we do, I just want to say, Gallin is one of those guys that I feel like it's self-confidence. And if anything, he's the, kind of guy that he might be so down on himself that it brings you down if that makes sense and you and i know a few guys like that right we know some guys around this office that bum us out every once in a while max no i'm just joking max is a delight to be around but no just in general sometimes there are those people that can kind of like uh you know again just you you almost feel so sorry for them and what they're going through that it makes it hard for you to just like do your thing right

that that's what i could see about zach gallon that's where i could see that's where i could see Zach Gallen like having a impact on the clubhouse, but not anything he actually does or says or treats his other teammates, but you know, any kind of way because, I mean, even last year, I give Zach a lot of credit when he was basically the last man standing of those that we expected to be traded at the deadline. Zach's attitude was pretty decent, pretty good. And I mean, I almost felt like he stepped it up a level to kind of be hanging out with his other teammates, especially once Merrill was gone because Merrill was kind of his rider.

die, right? So, but... Hand up. I'm sorry, Zach Gowan. No, but being... Fine. All that aside, like, that confidence is becoming an issue here. Because again, remember last year when this team acquired James McCann, and all it took for Zach to start pitching better was James McCann to look at him and say, dude, you're not bad at pitching. I hated to hit off of you when I was a hitter. Like, I hated hitting you. I hated facing you. Like, that little bit, plus I'm sure far more,

but that little story was like part of what, like, gave Zach that lift that he needed. It was why we were so big on McCann when he joined this team as a backup catcher. But now it feels like Zach, you know, has completely lost his way. And I think a lot of it does have to do with the lack of self-confidence and all of this stuff happening to him. And as much as that sucks, the Diamondbacks do have to worry about the success of the team and not the individual success of Zach Galen and how he feels about himself or his confidence. They do have a role there in trying to get him back to being the guy that they knew he could be because you're going to trade him off and go watch him suddenly have confidence that he never had here elsewhere

and watch him get right back to being the milk band that I made that funny video over. It does feel like this organization struggles with, especially on the pitching side of things, instilling that confidence in these guys. And Zach Allen felt like a dude that kind of had that. He had like the it factor, right? like in 22 and 23, even into 24, where you're watching him pitch and, you know, he's, he's not the most animated of guys, but in big moments, he's getting fired up, screaming off the mound, right? And in huge games to help make the playoffs or down the stretch. And it's sad to see all of that go straight out the window.

It's really, really sad. And I think I said this on the last Zach Callen start post game show, too. like I'm just getting to the point where like it's not even really making me angry watching Zach Gallen anymore. It's not upsetting me from like a standpoint of like, man, this team like, he's just killing us. It's just making me really, really sad watching a guy who I was prepared to give the biggest pitching contract to since Zach Rankie. Right. Right. Or even bigger potentially, depending on the number of years that we had involved there. And I was so confident in him being an ace. I thought that the better chance

It was him leaving because he was a Salli un-caliber pitcher And someone else was going to throw a bunch of money at him And the Diamondbacks had no chance of resigning a Scott Boris client Who was going to be up for a mega contract And all of that has just gone out the window And I know you've said a lot of stuff like this At certain times, Derek, of like it's sad to you feel bad for Zach Gow And the person in that regard as well

I would have to assume that that trickle has trickled down to his lack of confidence on the mound as well. A hundred percent. Losing out on hundreds of millions of dollars. And we're not, I'm not exaggerating there. No, you're not. He has lost out on hundreds of millions of dollars. Right.

And the grand scheme of things. Nine figures, dude. Not very many people can say that they missed out on nine figures worth of money based off of like what their career could have been as an athlete versus what it was. And I, yeah, I feel bad for him. And I kind of, yeah, I sympathize with him in that regard. Damon, there are times where I've lost a $20 bill. Oh.

A single $20 bill that I knew I had and I let like put it in my shorts and maybe they went to the laundry and now that 20 is gone. Derek, how long have I had my truck for by the like since March, right? So it's been three months. Yeah. I was driving a rental car when I was in between cars and I forgot to gas up my rental car when I returned it. I was thinking yesterday about the $150 that I did not. That they jarged you for that. that I could have saved myself.

Probably about a, you know, you think about the gas that it would have cost to get. Probably about $100 that I cost myself that I just lit on fire for no reason. Sure. I'm thinking about it yesterday. That was three months ago. And I'm like, if only I had that $100, then I could have bought this instead and I could take that on my vacation. No. So I'm with you 100%.

Right. But that's not like you said, hundreds of millions of dollars. It happens to baseball players all the time. This is nothing new. It's just unfortunate. And if you go back and listen to three years of this four and a half years we've been on air, that was a topic we talked about at length at times was Gallin essentially leaving us at the end of this contract because we knew he'd be too valuable.

Kind of the way we joke about Soroka now being entirely too valuable by the end of this season, right? Yeah. And can I also say something about people in the chat who are saying Zach Gallen has 20 million dollars, or 20 million dollars to sleep on from this year's contract and a lot in generational wealth? There's no question about it. I'm not doing the PHNX, you know, like unhoused people podcast. You know what I mean? Obviously, those people are much worse off.

There are so many people. And I'm talking about, and I'm talking about this, the roster. Yeah, including two guys in this room right now. You guys in this room are financially worse as well. I'm not, I'm not sympathizing with him in the, in relation to Americans or people worldwide. I'm sympathizing with him in relation to what an athlete's career is like and we do a D-BACs podcast. But yes, I do agree with you guys in general.

He's fine. He's not going to be out on the streets. He's swimming in money, Scrooge McDuck style. And, you know, I shouldn't be worrying about the nine figures that he says. DLAZ says 55 million in career earnings. That's less than Kyle Tucker is getting paid to be a mediocre baseball player just for this one season. See, and like if Zach Allen was a free agent in 20, and the Dodgers were trying to sign a free agent.

And they would have given them $75 million. And then it could have been mediocre for them. And everything would have been better. But yeah, but that's what I'm saying. Wrong place, wrong time when it comes to his contract situation, his age. Like, it's just been a disaster of a career trajectory for Zach Allen. And it's sad to see as a guy who like really, really believed in him. Well, we haven't even talked about his performance tonight.

We're going to here in a moment. But, of course, tonight, Gabby Moreno, one for three. He had a home run in our. RBI. He had two walks as well. Good to see. Like I said, that production from Gabby there in a three hole per domo, two for two with three walks. He was on base five times tonight. Carol hit a home run. He was one for five with two RBI and a home run. But our King Snake is the true problem of this team and the true problem of this podcast. It is Catele Marte. Three for five tonight. One double three RBI, two for two with runners in scoring position. The only two on the team, may I add, Derek. That's why I added

that is because you only gave me three stats. I had to code. You had to come up with something else, right? With the fourth stat and what did I decide upon? Well, the team was two for 14 with runners in scoring position and Ketel Marte. Or the team was 0 for 12 and Ketel was two for two because that's what happened tonight. Correct. Oh, God.

We need to get this guy on the first playing out of Arizona. Get him off my team. Well, let's take a quick break. And on the other side of this break, we're going to talk about the true problem with tonight's loss, the pitching staff. Don't you guys go anywhere. You're watching the PHNX Diamondback show. Well, Don Julio 1942 wants to help make my life better, make all of our lives better.

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That's very true. We got a super chat from our guy, Michael Evans. He says, honest question, can they get another pitcher? Probably not until the trade deadline would be my guess on that one. Teams typically aren't really selling until about two weeks before. And so I'd say from any time between two weeks before and on the trade deadline itself is when you should expect potential pitching upgrades. And I wouldn't be shocked to see them bring in a starting pitcher or two. You're theoretically 15 to 30 days at that point away from Corbyn Burns possibly returning, right?

So not to say that that is likely for him to be back that early as in the midpoint of August, but it does feel very much like Burns based on what he has told us is not going to have a major setback when it comes to this. It's not like he has to start his throwing program completely over from zero. And it's not like he has to start his rehab over from zero. This actually does kind of help him rehab from his Tommy John, even though it's not the kind of rehab we want it to be that moves him closer. it does help strengthen that surgery, that injury, and helps him come back even stronger. I do think that it's weird that there is this narrative being manufactured by people that the team

has somehow been rushing Corbyn Burns back from injury. And speaking as a person who has spoken directly to Corvin Burns several times about his Tommy John surgery, the only person rushing back from Tommy John is Carvin Burns. He is literally the only person that wants. Everybody else is trying to do everything they can in their power to slow him down, to delay him, to make him take the proper amount of time it takes to recover from an injury like this. And he is doing so. The terrorist major strain has nothing to do with his elbow and nothing to do with him coming back too fast from Tommy John.

In fact, he even made it sound again like it was something that he would probably just pitch through if he was in the middle of the season and 16 starts in. But again, Corbin Burns returning, that's the big problem. It seems like there's going to be a gap. And for the time being, Zach Gowlin is going to continue to be that pitcher

to fill that gap. I implored Zach at one time to make this decision difficult on the team. And not only has he not done that, but he straight up made himself a liability as far as going out there and pitching every five days. You just don't feel confident that when he is on the mound,

that he is going to give you a chance to win any longer. His breaking stuff was actually pre-year. good tonight. I think Mark was talking about his curb ball back there. He says, Gowndt's curveball used to get flailed at and hit off the end of the bat in 2023. Not anymore. His curve ball actually was pretty good tonight and his changeup. He used his changeup as his primary pitch in this one. The wild thing though, and this kind of backs up what Mark is saying there, he got 14 swings and misses tonight, Damon, and three strikeouts. 14 swing and misses and three strikeouts. At times it feels like Zach's inability to put away batters is the big

problem. He'll get ahead of the count and he did that quite a bit tonight. They wouldn't stop talking about it on the goddamn broadcast. First pitch strikes to 19 batters out of 26-based total, I believe. Check my mouth on that. I could be wrong. But he didn't throw the fastball very much tonight because his fastball has not been good and it continues not to be good. His fastball and his overall performance tonight were once again not good. But he did use his changeup as his primary pitch. He got 28% usage on it tonight. And then the slider 27%. Changeup looked really good at times. The slider did not. He got eight whiffs on the changeup, two whiffs on the slider, three whiffs on the knuckle curve, which he used 24% of the outing. And then he threw the four seam

21% of the outing with one with. Nice mix of pitches. Nice mix of pitches and also nice to seize turning to his breaking step that has been much better than his, you know, than his forcing fastball. But let's take a look at his pitch chart and you'll see here where those pitches landed. Again, the change up did its thing. The change up locked in, right? There's maybe five or six changeups that were thrown that really weren't competitive, but the majority of them were low down in the,

either in the zone or below the zone. It had good movement on it tonight. But again, the fastball. not a lot of fastballs up. The four-seem fastball, even though he didn't throw it very much, you see a lot of them down in the zone. And again, the knuckle curve. That one also fell way off at times

and was way outside of the zone. He gave up a run in each of his first three innings pitch. He gave up a one-out, double to Otto Lopez, who is one of the best hitters in all of Major League Baseball. That was in the first, and then he scored on an Xavier Edwards, RBI single. Those two guys terrorized us. But you know who else terrorized us?

The goddamn eight and nine hitters who the Diamondbacks did not get out one time tonight. Not one time. Brutal. Did the Diamondbacks get the Marlins eight and nine hitters? Norby, who's hitting 209 with a 644 OPS, was one for one with an RBI, two walks, and a hit by pitch. Meanwhile, Mack, who's hitting 253, he's their catcher.

He was on base four times. He went four for four, I believe, with four singles. He had three runs scored. This Marlins team just hit Gallin all over the place. And again, Gallen did a good job of getting out of some of those instances where he got himself in a jam without run scoring. He loaded the bases. But in the second, Joe Mack, again, four for four tonight,

hit a two out single, scored on a Connor Norby, RBI double to make a two to one at the time. Then Otto Lopez once again double to lead off the third and then he scored eventually after stealing third base on an Edward sack fly. And then before exiting in the fifth, Gallon gave up a one out single to Mack

once again who would eventually score in an RBI double by Liam Hicks. Just too many base runners tonight, too many hits allowed. And more importantly, it just felt like in those big moments the Diamondbacks did not use. use their challenges.

And it didn't matter if it was on the offensive side of the ball or defensive side of the ball. No challenges used. Damon and I were beside ourselves with how many times a ball was a strike. And it wasn't challenged by Gabby, wasn't challenged by anybody. And the very next pitch would be a meatball down the middle of the plate because the, you know, Gallon or the bullpen were down two oh in the count suddenly after that one not being a strike all the baseball gods are laughing at us in in that in that regard you know at that it was such a joke

it was such a joke um it was just i could not believe what was going on damon i mean honestly like three instances at the very least i can think of where you and i were tossing our hats and going off about the lack of challenges yeah i mean It was a disaster, Derek. I mean, there was, I think, three separate occasions that we highlighted in particular that, you know, were certainly questionable calls. Not questionable calls. Calls that would have been overturned.

Or just straight up calls that you would have. No doubt about it. Gotten in your favor. And the Diamondbacks, unaggressiveness in the regard of challenging is costing them in these moments. And there have been times where maybe the lack of aggression with the pitch challenging has maybe saved the Diamondbacks because they haven't needed to be so aggressive and they keep them for late. But on a night like tonight, man, it was hard to not look at the, at the ABS system as a true differentiator in teams. And it's not like the Marlins even had a good

night on the ABS challenge system. It's just the fact that the Diamondbacks had an absolute nightmare on the ABS challenge system. They didn't use a single one. And honestly, it felt like every time you could go back and look at the big moments, right? Otto Lopez's RBI single that scored Joe Mack and gave the Marlins the lead in the bottom of the eighth inning. Pitch number two was a sinker from Brandon Garcia that hit the zone, right? Very next pitch, sinker dead center, you know, not not trying to get the edges anymore.

because instead of having a one-one count, he's now down two-nothing, and Brandon Garcia, who didn't have good command tonight, was just trying to throw the ball in the zone for a strike at that point. That next pitch that he throws potentially completely changes based on the count being different

and that ball being a strike as it was supposed to. And it wasn't just that moment. It was other moments, lots of other moments. Like when you go back in general to many of the scoring opportunities, right? Another one was the Kyle Stowers double, Right? Kyle Stowers doubled. He scores Liam Hicks. He scores Otto Lopez. This was in the sixth inning when they took the six to three lead, Damien. Pitch number three, once again,

a slider on a two one call that was a strike that they didn't challenge. And instead, the very next pitch by Taylor Clark is a freaking change up dead center in the zone, hit for an RBI double, two RBI double that puts them up six to three. Like, again, it's just this lack of being aggressive. I don't care if you're wrong. I don't care if you don't have those challenges late. There is no guarantee in a baseball game, which play is going to be the biggest play of the game.

It could happen in the fucking first inning. It could happen that early. And I'm out here saying the F word. It's insane. On a night where you lost 10 to 6 and you had a 6-6 tie in the eighth inning that you didn't use a single one of your challenges. How big was that? especially there in the eighth.

If we're holding on to them until late in the game, why are we not challenging in those moments? Why are we not challenging when Otto Lopez, the best hitter in the game is up there and a pitch that's on the corner that perfectly hits the corner is called the ball and we're not challenging? And we have two.

We have two in our pocket and it's the bottom of the eighth inning. What are we waiting for? Extra innings? What the hell are we waiting for? Runners in scoring position as well. I mean, it's not like the moment wasn't big. That's what I'm saying. You hold on to those calls for the moment, but that was the absolute time to use that.

And man, I can't help but feel that like obviously it's going to be such a hard thing to kind of judge and, you know, put like a number two of how much it's helping or hurting the team. But certainly doesn't feel like our catcher has a great grasp on the zone from an ABS challenge standpoint. I don't even know if it's his fault. I don't even know if it's fault because the lack of using them feels like it's more of a, once again, a team philosophy. But don't you think that part of that is he's been bad at times as here like we've talked about where maybe they're being like, hey, Gabby, stop trying to big dog people and do the ABS challenges when you're not entirely sure. And now he's being less aggressive with it. When he was the only guy who was kind of being aggressive with it in the first place, and it was not really working out all that well. But we talked about this.

they have one of the highest success rates. Yeah, because I think the rest of the roster is good. But it doesn't matter when your usage is so bad. Correct. That's my point. And no, it's not. I'm talking about where it's them pitching. So they're not allowing their pitchers to call it.

So it's Gabby. I mean, it's Gabby. The success rate is fine. It's not like he's far less successful than other catchers. The problem is the usage rate. And if he used it more, then maybe he would be wrong more. So you have something where when it comes to that, It feels like he's not doing well because when you only challenge 10 times and you only got six right, that doesn't feel great.

But when you look across baseball and you see, oh, 60 percent, that's pretty good. Other catchers have 30 reversed calls to Gabby six, right? That's not, that's not. That's the problem. That in therein lies the problem. And again, like our guy, R.A. says, you're not banking these. You're not taking them to the next game with you. So what in the hell are you doing by not using them?

Use them. Use them in those big moments and you never know what could happen, especially when, you know, you flip an at bat to be, you know, one two instead of two one, right? That's a huge difference in, you know, in a pitch count. So. And Gabby had a great game today, but it definitely feels like it's a little bit of a hole in his game right now. Sure. Even if it's, you know, times where he's just getting them wrong or times where he's not using them, I feel like we've had complaints about his utilization in particular of the ABS system for the majority of this year. Yes.

And that's kind of concerning because he's the guy that needs to be best of anyone on your team at the challenge system because of how often he's going to be in those moments. So, yeah, it's unfortunate. You know, I hope he starts, you know, maybe, I think this is a new thing, right? Like he could easily get better at it after one season of ever having gone. through the ABS challenge system. I don't expect him to be top of the league. Sure. Immediately he's awesome at it,

but like we do need to start seeing a little bit of improvement in that regard because, yeah, he killed us tonight with particularly a few games, you know, pitches late in the game that just eventually served up hitters counts to guys and gave them the opportunity to kind of sit back and tee off on pitches with runners in scoring position in a really, really close. game genuinely could have cost you the entire game. And Pablo's right. He said their players were just putting up good at bats.

And this Marlins team is good at that. Like they... Yeah, I like the way they play baseball, by the way. They singled and doubled you to death. This is another team, Damon, like what we were kind of saying about the nationals where you watch this team and you're like, this is kind of how the Diamondbacks used to play. I think that them even more so, to be honest with you. I think the nationals maybe have a little bit more pop than that Diamondbacks team

had with the power of a guy like James Wood and particular. This Marlins team feels like a team that just is like, let's get on base, let's cause havoc. Let's have guys that hit over 300. I mean, Derek, I was going through their stats the other day and talking to you about it. Two starting middle infielders that hit above 300. Otto Leibaz is hitting 341 after tonight. Xavier Edwards is hitting 306. Yeah. It's baffling. It's baffling. What is this? Is this 2003? Yeah. Like 341 with an eight-fifference. 59 OPS. My God. My God. This man is a singles machine. It's pretty impressive, man. They got a good lineup over there. And they definitely play small ball. And I like that type of team in modern baseball. Well, and again, that approach is the reason why, even though Zach had as many whiffs tonight, swings and misses that he got on his pitches, he did not have many strikeouts. And a circle K strikeout meter, I hate to fire you up once again for this kind of performance. You deserve better. But three strikeouts tonight.

I didn't get it. That's all right. See, no, that's fine, Damon, because again. Zach, I just, Circle K deserves better than Zach Gallaud. It does. Everybody, like Circle K deserves better than a lot of these pitching performances. These starters have been giving them lately. Thank God for Michael Soroka.

But Gallant tonight, five and a third innings pitch, nine hits allowed, four earn runs, one walk, three K. Bullpen, bad tonight. Just bad. No other way about it, right? On a night where you think that the pitching staff or the starter wasn't good, at the very least you do feel like if the bullpen turned in one of their many impressive performances that we've seen out of them this year holding an opposing team scoreless and giving the diamondbacks

a chance to fight back maybe just maybe they do fight back in this one and win this one by a score of six to four but that wasn't the case taylor clark not very good tonight and it's two thirds of an innings pitched he gave it came in after zack gallon left he gave up two hits he walked one and he gave up two earned runs overall. And again, that's what put the nine-in-backs in the six-three-hole. Ryan Thompson kind of continues to be lights out. Thompson comes in, you blink, and the inning's over, and he got three ground balls. I don't even understand how he's doing what he's doing, but Thompson, ERA 2.42.

I mean, even tonight after Taylor Clark giving up the two runs, his ERA is still just 2.28. So that just goes to show how good this bullpen has been. but man we needed him to be that good tonight brandon garcia really really struggled when he came into the game and again uh talking about the lefty uh our only lefty now that the diamond back option philip abner back to triple a rino and until we get a j puck back uh garcia did not have a good outing tonight he gave up a lead off single to mac and then a hit to norby to put two on and no outs uh Liam leum hicks bunted and popped up uh for an out that was very fortunate uh but then lopez

Again, this guy, Thorne in our side tonight, hit an RBI single to give the Marlins a 7-6 lead. Garcia's line, two-thirds of an innings pitched, two hits allowed, four and runs, one walk. And then Ginkl, also not great. Ginkle came in, tried to finish things up for Garcia. He gave up two hits, and he only got one strikeout. But overall, the damage was permanently done at that point, and the offense couldn't do much to muster up any runs in the top of the ninth. the Marlins bullpen honestly has been pretty damn good. In fact, it was one of their strengths.

So the Diamondbacks coming in and putting up four runs in the seventh and eighth inning against their bullpen just shows the fight that this team still has. But unfortunately, it just wasn't enough. And tonight it was really the pitching staff that just kept letting this game get away once the offense was able to get close. But we're going to talk about the numbers from this loss. And again, we're going to talk about. where we're going? Where's this team heading?

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The bullpen was due for a bad outing, and you can't expect them to total load all season long, right? Sometimes you've got to give the bullpen a little bit of a lead, and sometimes, more importantly, you can't expect them to hold a game scoreless so that your offense can come back. But let's take a look at the numbers from tonight's game because they're infuriating.

So why not? Am I right? Why not look at numbers that are going to upset me? Damon's over here trying to upset me We talked about Cotel Marte being the problem on this team anyway, and adding to my frustration level. So let's look at these while we're at it. Diamondbacks lose this one, 10 to 6.

The Marlins had six doubles for their extra base hits. The Diamondbacks had three, two home runs, and a double for them. Meanwhile, runners in scoring position. Big story here. Six for 16 for the Marlins, two for 14 for the devax. There's why you lost the baseball game. Again, we talked about... Two for two by team cancer, Ketel Marte.

We talk about the pitching staff, and yes, they are to blame, but two for 14 means you had plenty of opportunities to score far more runs than just six, and you did not take advantage of that. 44.4% hard hit percentage for the Marlins, 33.3% for the Diamondbacks. And look at this expected batting average. This is ridiculous. Nearly 400 for the Marlins, once again. I believe this is the second game.

Last time we did a post-game show, I believe, on Friday versus the Nationals, Damon. I believe that one also had a goddamn expected batting average of nearly 400 for the opposing team. So, no, not great, not great. And then ABS challenges. Oh, my God, I don't even want to talk about it again, but seeing the NA up there, makes me sick. It makes me sick. One for three for the Marlins, none used by the Diamondbacks.

There you go. what else do we have to discuss? We could talk about Zach Gallant and everything else more, but I don't really know what to say about this team. I will say that offensively, they put up a fight tonight, and if they can find their footing and produce this type of run support for their starters,

I feel far more confident. We have Ryan Nelson going in game two tomorrow, and then Merrill Kelly going in game three. Still have my concerns about Merrill, but I feel like Ryan is going to absolutely give them a chance to win tomorrow. they need to bring this same offense with them tomorrow. And again, they need to try to do everything they can to salvage this series against the Marlins. Things don't get easier this month.

There are challenges all throughout the month, and this team cannot afford to lose series to teams like the Marlins that are currently, or at least we're sub-500, right? So this one, we got to flush it. We got to flush it. We still need that flush it, sounder. Damon, but we do want to talk about one positive thing before we get out of here. Can I actually bring up one more negative thing before we get on out of here?

Oh, you just, yeah. I have to. You just love upsetting. I have to. What do you got? Paven Smith. Oh, boy. Derek, we made 56 minutes into the podcast without talking about Paven Smith.

Well, we did briefly say why he wasn't getting the same national articles written about him and Gallen. And I called him normal SpongeBob, but. You did. He's now hitting 13. Yeah, round SpongeBob. He's now hitting 136, zero home runs, three RBI, 422 OPS. At one point during the game, Derek made me think that he hit a home run because he said we're about to take the lead right here. And Derek is a known game day watcher while I watch the games and he likes to spoil things for me.

So when that happened, I was like, oh my God, Pavin Smith home run. not a snowball's chance in hell, Derek, of a Pave and Smith home run. Struck out of that bad, I believe. Yeah, he did strike out in that at bat. Yeah, I mean, he was hitting 71 before three games ago. Three hits and 22 at bets. We were calling for Pave and Smith because of how low of production we were getting from guys like Adrian Del Castillo.

And Paveitsmith has yet somehow been worse than Adrian Del Castillo when brought back to this team. I don't know what the situation is. I don't know what kind of leeway he has with this team at this point, but the guy has no options left. He's clearly not a good baseball player at the major league level. If he's a pinch hitter and a D.H. And a, you know, potential platoon bat on the back end of your roster, that's fine.

If he's a starter for you on a regular basis, your team stinks. Haven Smith needs to not be in the starting lineup for this team moving forward. maybe not up until the trade deadline because I realize you can't really go out and just get a bunch of upgrades right now, but he can't be after the trade deadline. Absolutely unequivocally cannot be starting for this team. The Payman Smith experienced, Derek, I'm afraid it is well and truly over. Time of death, June 9th, 8.09 p.m. Although some would argue that it died a really, really long time before that.

But the rabbit pulling the clock out, Derek, and I'm pointing at it right now because it's time. Adrian Del Castillo slashing 189, 248, 320 for 568 OPS. Carlos Santana, 083, 154, 125, 279 OPS, Pavin Smith, 167. This was coming into today. 167, 304, 167 for 471 OPS. You had Lucan Baker, who hit 200 at one point. Lou James Groover's hitting 200 with a 400 OPS. Tim Tawa, he also, DH for this team, 169, 265, 254, 519 LPS.

This is what we're getting out of our DH. This is why Damon at the beginning of the year said that our DH situation in first base is going to be 30 out of 30. I fear I was 100% on the money. I fear I was 100% on the money there. You aren't getting any argument. And I don't think even in the chat. I don't think there was a single person that was arguing with you about it. Yeah.

We were just hoping you were going to be wrong. Uh, and, and again, there's things that we were hoping about that did do, work out for this team. We were hoping Michael Soroka could have a resurgence. I was that happened for Pavin Smith on this podcast on my Twitter account.

No one or not. You know, embarrassing that is for me to go beg for Pavin Smith, Derek? And I'm, I'm putting my shame to the side for this franchise. And then he comes back and he slaps me right in the face. in front of everybody.

Damon, we also have what Mark is bringing up, which is our tweet from yesterday about Tim Tawa, your PCL player of the week. Tim Tawa returned to the Reno Aces and became a god hitting, slashing, 476, 542, 1.095 slug for a 1637 OPS, 7 RBI, 7-EX3-EXRBI, 7-Extra-Base hits,

three of those seven extra base hits were home runs, and he is your PCL player of the week. That's about the production that you would get from Tim Tawa in an entire like three months worth of MLB action. That is the production you would get out of them for an entire season. What are you talking about that? Yeah, it might be. And piece of Yoshi's right. They all do that.

This is the reason why we sit here and bitch and moan about wanting these guys to get called up, right? No offense to any of these guys. They've all been good. Jose Fernandez was good, even great when he was first called up. Ryan Walschman was very, very good and still has been at times, but he's come back down to earth. As has Tommy Troy, who's made his share of mistakes, Lou James Gruber, been a bit more of a, you know, not an instant success at a major league level. A really, really bad game. Right.

But again, it's still somehow what this team feels like they're going to, it's still better than what they're going to get elsewhere, right? at least right now. Yeah, I think that if I'm being real with, in regards to Lou James Gruver, I think it might be time for him to maybe get sent back down. And that feels like a quick option, but those are going to happen fast. He is not ready, Derek.

I mean, it's pretty clear up there. Like when he's getting up in this game, this past game today, with multiple opportunities, runners in scoring position. And, you know,

it feels like it's potentially game breaking. If he can come through in those spots. Yeah. And he is just putting, uncompetitive A-Bs up at the plate, like swinging at stuff out of the zone, taking strikes. It just doesn't look like an MLB player right now.

And that's okay. You know, he got called up and kind of put in one of those situations where it wasn't called up because he was forcing himself to be called up, but more so called up because Jose Fernandez was struggling, right? And that's why they made that move. So it's a little bit of a different circumstance, but I'd like to see him go back down to Reno be there probably until the rest of the year and the next spring training have the opportunity to to make the MLB roster or get a

September call up late, but it doesn't look like he has it right now. Tommy Troy, I will say, yes, the defense has looked suspect at times, absolutely. He also made that great diving stop over the weekend, but his hitting today was fantastic. He looked great. He looked great offensively today. So I want to shout out Tommy Troy for it's his approach at the plate right now out of those guys. Ryan Waldschmidt swings far too often. He strikes out far too often. He strikes out far too. much. Yeah. Jose Fernandez, I mean, he really couldn't, it felt like he couldn't handle breaking stuff.

It felt like he was easy to figure out after a little while. But Tommy Troy definitely looks like he has the best approach right now. Yeah, Pablo's right. Right now, he's definitely playing the best of the bunch out of these guys. I do think Waldi, though, like, let's, let's stop, you know, let's hold the concern on Waldy. I think that he's a rookie and these things are bound to happen. But I still think he looks like he belongs up there.

I agree. It's just not, it's been a little bit of a rougher. stretch recently. He's not the only one swinging and missing a lot when it comes to this particular lineup. They're all chasing far too much. Yeah, and they're still doing that. But Tommy Troy hopefully can continue to to look like an MLB player up there because he really does, especially like the way that he's kind of taken that back end of the lineup role, Derek, and been the guy that gets on base for Catell, I think has been, that's been a big help for this offense recently. Well, I'll tell you, Damon, the true future of this team is about to be signed because we are going to

take a quick break and the other side of this break, we're going to talk about June's song um being the future of the Arizona Diamondbacks. Don't you go anywhere. You're watching the PHA next Diamondback show. Well, shout out, of course, to Game Time for always making it easier, cheaper, and more fun to access tickets to sporting events like this baseball game. Of course, you can make yourself, you can get yourself great tickets with that Game Time app, which gives fans the advantage with constant innovation. It's a very aesthetically pleasing app, and it's how you unlock amazing tickets and experiences in just a few taps. Their fees are included in the price you see,

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Well, speaking of all of that, we're going to be having that fun we were talking about earlier. you can join our PHNX crew for our World Cup watch parties presented by Buchanan's, Casa Amigos, Don Julio, and Mickelope Ultra. Thursday, June 11th at 12 p.m. We're watching South America versus Team Mexico. That is going to be happening at Phillies on Warner. And on Friday, June 12th at 6pm, Team USA taken on Paraguay at Phillies in Scottsdale. We're going to have drink specials, $4.1 Mikulub Ultras, $6.00 Stella Artois.

And so much fun to be had. visit go p hnx.com slash events for more details and to rsvp i can't wait derrick but also i wish that we got better teams i know i know i'm a little i know i know you are man you're i've been talking i've been talking to calling this whole thing a sham derrick's doing the thing that you that a little kid does like when like you know like when in class they're hanging out like this is the first example that came to mind when it's valentine's day and you got to go around and put your valentine's day cards and in in a everybody's box and then maybe your friend uh has NBA players that the one that he's doing

and then he and then he gives you like the worst star player in the thing and you're like you open it up and you go chet holmgren no no why did you get you gave you gave damon devon booker but you gave me chet holmgren why did you do that and and and then it's just ruined his entire existence think about anything other than the fact that Turkey and Senegal are our two best teams that we have to root for. I just, I just want, I want to have a team to root for. And I don't feel like we got. Senegal, baby. Oh, God.

Well, well, come on, Derek. You're going to tell me you don't want to get, get dancing with the Senegalese people. Well, yeah. I mean, I've always, I've, I've always wanted to dance with. I just don't feel confident in their team winning. I'm all about Team Korea right now, Damon. and we didn't get them, but we are. I'm also about Team Korea.

We are a Team Korea podcast now. I bet on Korea on the opening day of the World Cup, there's a, I had like a, you know, like I was putting my place in my bets for that opening round. I bet on them specifically, Derek, because of Jun-Sing-Yom. Yeah. Literally.

There's one reason, and it's because we are all South Korean now. I mean, I tell you, we all are, we always are, and we always were. Diamondbacks were finalizing a deal. according to Francis Vermeero with Korean Star. Now, I had to get the proper pronounce.

It's June Song-um. June-sung-um. Like-um? Like-um? Like-um? And um-was widely considered the number two prospect in the upcoming KBO draft. He plays shortstop and he pitches. And again, he possesses fantastic contact skills and quality defense.

he is 17 years old and the Diamondbacks truly may have locked up a future superstar. He throws 95, Derek. At 17 years old, he throws 95. He throws 95 on the mound, which at 17 is incredibly impressive. And then I was watching some of his defense that there was that one highlight clip that was kind of going around social media. Yeah. People say he's like an extremely high level defensive player as well. Now, he might not stick at shortstop his entire career,

but how many times do we see a guy that is a shortstop that gets moved to second base or third base or whatnot? It seems like he has the defensive capabilities to probably be a major league caliber infielder while simultaneously being a major league caliber pitcher. And I think that that's what you're holding that hope for with this guy. I mean, more than anything, extremely talented players are extremely talented players no matter what.

again more than anything we own otani what are you talking about more than anything Derek we have our otani oh toni oh toni who exactly that's fair i'm trying to figure out who even is this guy to the game of baseball anymore we need to go get otani we got otani at home we all have two-way asian superstars we all we all do you are not special dodgers show hey we have one too show damon where he's better show damon where he's better yeah please be a superstar, John God, we need you to. We need you to as badly as ever.

So again, not a lot of information available, but on him, but I'm sure more stuff will come out. And we will be a June song podcast here inevitably. So that's the direction we're heading in. But like Ari say, he is our unicorn. We have our own unicorn and he's magical and special. And we will protect him at all costs. He's special.

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