PHNX Arizona Diamondbacks Podcast - POSTGAME: José Fernández’s TWO-HR Debut Fuels D-backs’ Stunning Comeback Win Over Tigers

Episode Date: April 1, 2026

What a debut! Arizona Diamondbacks prospect Jose Fernandez announced his arrival in a massive way, launching two home runs in his first big league game to power the D-backs to a 7-5 win over the Detroit Tigers. We break down Fernandez’s historic night as he becomes just the seventh player in the modern era of baseball to go yard twice in his MLB debut, and yes… we might be overreacting just a little as we start planning where his statue should go outside Chase Field. Plus, we dive into Brandon Pfaadt’s rough third inning, what went wrong, and what it could mean for his role once Merrill Kelly returns from the injured list. We also give our thoughts on the latest batch of MLB City Connect jerseys and why the D-backs’ Serpientes jersey is still the king of alternate kits. Limited-time offer! Become a Diehard for just $36: https://gophnx.com/intro-offer-youtube JOIN THE SUPPORTERS CLUB ➡️ https://tinyurl.com/yc6km2r4 An ALLCITY Network Production SUBSCRIBE to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/phnx_youtube ALL THINGS PHNX: http://linktr.ee/phnxsports MERCH https://store.allcitynetwork.com/collections/phnx-locker ALLCITY Network, Inc. aka PHNX and PHNX Sports is in no way affiliated with or endorsed by the City of Phoenix PHNX Events: Get your tickets to PHNX events and takeovers here: https://gophnx.com/events/ ALLCITY — including us here at PHNX — is teaming up with Big Brothers Big Sisters of America for an exciting three-year partnership. To learn more, visit https://www.bbbs.org/allcity/ Branded Bills: Use code BBPHNX at https://www.brandedbills.com/ for 15% off your first order! Husband & Wife Law Team: If you’ve had a serious injury, Call The Husband & Wife Law Team first at 602-783-8841 or visit https://husbandandwifelawteam.com/?utm_source=allcity-padcasts&utm_medium=digital-phx&utm_campaign=allcityShowNotes bet365: https://www.bet365.com/hub/en-us/app-hero-banner-1?utm_source=affiliate&utm_campaign=usapp&utm_medium=affiliate&affiliate=365_03485317 Use the code PHNX365 to sign up, deposit $10 and bet $5 to get $150 in bonus bets! Disclaimer: Must be 21+ and physically located in AZ.  If you or someone you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call 1-800-NEXT-STEP, text NEXTSTEP to 53342 or visit https://problemgambling.az.gov/ Gametime: Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code PHNX for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Shady Rays: Head to https://shadyrays.com and use code: PHNX for 40% 2+ pairs of off polarized sunglasses. Try for yourself the shades rated 5 stars by over 300,000 people. Circle K: Join Inner Circle for free by downloading the Circle K app today! Head to https://www.circlek.com/store-locator to find Circle Ks near you! When you shop through links in the description, we may earn affiliate commissions. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What a debut, Jose Fernandez becomes just the seventh player in the modern era of baseball to have two home runs in his debut. And you know we're turning on the cactus light for the Diamondbacks comeback victory over the Tigers. Don't you go anywhere. We're talking about it right now. To another edition of the PHNXD Backs podcast, presented by our friends at Circle K. And I'm getting really loud tonight because we just witnessed history and perhaps the next Hall of Fame player. from the Arizona Diamondbacks.

Is that too much? Is that too soon? Maybe, maybe. But you know we don't underreact on this show. We overran on this show. My name is Derek Monty, occasionally known as your mayor of PHNX. Thrill to have you guys here

and more thrilled to be talking about the Arizona Diamondbacks Big 7 to 5 comeback victory over the Tigers tonight. That was fueled by rookie Jose Fernandez, making his major league debut and leading this, team to victory with his two home run night. Again, welcome in to all of you.

Thrilled to have you guys here. We got our guy, Damon Dog, on the ones and twos. And if you think I'm going to overreact, just wait until he gets going when talking about Jose Fernandez. I'm ready to say some things, Derek. Just some things or all the things, Damon. Maybe all of the things. I will start off by saying that I left the yard tonight with Tim Tawa, who I like a

tremendous about. And we were just both talking about how in awe we were of what we saw. That's great. It was just what an amazing thing to see tonight from a young rookie. What an amazing thing to see from any Diamondbacks player. But on a night where their offense looked as dead in the water as it did in Los Angeles, they are led to victory here by Jose Fernandez. The guy who was the absolute talk of spring training, the guy who had, I mean, you mean, and that is with people talking about Lawler, that is with people talking about Ryan Walschmidt, and still somehow Jose Fernandez's name emerged as, you know, the young player that was just impressing everybody during Cactus League play and really stood out as a guy even at 22 years old

that had kind of left a huge impression on Tori Lavallo, his coaching staff, and the front office. That is the reason why when Pavin Smith went down with this injury, the Diamondbacks were so quick to turn to young Jose Fernandez because they felt like they have had something special in him. They have had him in their system since he was 17 years old. And tonight he rewarded them with one of the greatest debuts in Major League Baseball history. Right. It was just amazing to see. And again, this was a night where I will pull back the curtain as I tend to do on this show.

I had lost written all in the in the rundown. Damon can attest to this. lost headline, lost thumbnail, everything was a loss. When the Diamondbacks were down five to nothing and seemed to have nothing going on for them, it did not look like this game was going to turn in their favor. And it all kind of started with a Jose Fernandez home run, a solo shot there that he put up in the fourth inning

to give the Diamondbacks at least a little bit of hope. After Brandon Fott had one of his oddly bad innings. And I say oddly because Brandon Fought was just cruising through this game and then hit the wall. I would say it's like the, it's like a typical thought game. Like that was the most Brandon fought game I think I've ever seen in my life where you don't walk away from it,

Derek being like, oh my God, this guy stinks. Yeah. You walk away from it going, feed me more. Feed me more. And also like,

yeah, I won all the stock. And also what the hell happened in the, in the fourth inning, you know, or whatever. The third inning. The third inning.

It was, he does this all the time. It's crazy where it feels like he's done and you're like, oh my God, it's going to be another year of Brandon Fott doing this. And then all of a sudden he just gives you shut down innings of pitching. Comes back out after giving up those five runs and somehow figures out a way to put it all back together. I'll never. It's like this is the guy that like I'll never escape you. Brandon Fought.

Like this is this is the girl that you just hold on to your entire life. And there are people in the comments getting ahead of us. We're going to talk about pitching. But I was going to talk about that as well. it seemed that once he was pitching out of the stretch there, once runners got on base, because he didn't have any runners on base in the first or second inning, gets to the third inning,

runners get on base, and it seemed like when he was pitching out of the stretch that he was tipping and the tigers knew exactly what was coming. Also, I don't know if it was just tipping. Like his sinker wasn't sinking, his sweeper wasn't sweeping. These pitches were like the single that was hit 105 miles an hour, the double that was hit 104 miles an hour, maybe vice versa on those.

They were right in the middle of the zone. And the tigers were being aggressive during that inning. In fact, the tigers were being aggressive all game long, but I don't want to talk about that. I just want to talk for an hour about Jose Fernandez. I want to talk about the cut of his jib. I want to talk about his handsome face. I want to talk about how major league ready he looked before his debut today. Everything about him.

Everything about him just has kind of like an aura to him. In fact, I think that's the exact word Damon used yesterday when we first spoke to him after being called up. Damon said he has an aura about him and boy does he. Boy does he. And man, that aura was was on show tonight. The Diamondbacks win this one by a score of seven to five after being down, like I said, five to nothing early on in that game. And I mean, there's a lot of things we could talk about here. Not a lot of great from the offense, right? Again, the offense struggled. Ketel Marte was O for three tonight with a walk. Corbyn Kierrell, one for three. He had two RBI. He had a big double there late in the game that helped the diamondbacks get back in this

game and then it helped get them close and Jose Fernandez kind of got them the rest of the way there. Perdomo extended his on-base streak to 22 games now with his with his hit there early in the game. I think it was in the first inning. And again, Perdomo has the second longest active on-base streak in baseball dating back to September of last year and the only person with a longer on-base streak currently is one Shohei Otani, who is currently at 36 games, I believe. But Perdomo has now hit safely in 20 of those 22 games. And again, he continues to be a consistent on-based threat for this team. Perdomo won for three tonight with a walk and a run scored. But the big, big story, I guess, is, you know, what Jose Fernandez obviously did. Gabby Marino had a double

early on in the game. Damon actually tweeted this out. Of all people, Damon, tweeting out stats and facts and figures and not just how much Jose Fernandez looks like Arod. Big J. I'm a big J. Jamans. Big J. J. over here. Jamon Javieral Moreno. Gabriel Moreno's double was a home run in 22 out of 30 ballparks per baseball sabon.

It was 105.4 miles per hour off the bat. But it wasn't enough to score any runs. And again, the Diamondbacks struggled with that for the majority of the game. In fact, seven out of their eight innings, they only had one run, and that one run came from Jose Fernandez, who was three for four tonight with two runs scored, four RBI, one strikeout, and two dingers. Two massive dingers.

One, it was in the fourth inning off of Casey Mize. That one was his first of the year, and then his second of the year comes in the eighth inning off of Kenley Jansen. In fact, the Tigers turned to Kenley Janssen, the eighth inning just to pitch to Jose Fernandez because of what he had done so far in this, in this league, or in this game, excuse me, in this league in this game. I was too busy reading Raioma's comment. Ryoma wanted to know, has Jose Fernandez played at first base in his pro career.

In fact, he has played first base. It is, in his, it's correct. We're going down the right path, Raima. You know exactly what we're getting to here. Interesting, interesting that we found out this fact. It's kind of fascinating, in fact, Damon. It's fascinating. But Jose Fernandez, just what an incredible, I mean, what more can you say about him tonight for the Diamondbacks?

He was the offense. He was everything for this team. And now here we are, you know, looking at potentially the next great young player that is added to this Diamondbacks lineup. Right? And Ramos has great problem solved. Mays Devil agrees, oh yeah, it's all coming together. I don't care how Jose Fernandez gets into the lineup going forward. I just need him in the lineup, period, right, Damon?

100%. Derek, I was actually talking to my roommate who's a really good, a really big D-backs fan. And I was just saying, you know how massive it would be for Jose Fernandez, of all people, to be a guy that steps up and that provides this team with a legit bat this year? massive. I mean, I mean, like,

there's just not a lot in the way of legitimate bats on the roster at the moment, especially, and I hate to be the guy that says it, but especially with Pavin Smith hurt. Yeah.

Because Pavan Smith, quite frankly, he was, he was one of their bats. He is one of after the big three, after what Gabby has done so far this season, and I think the hope that we have for Laller, like Pavin was one of those next up guys that I think that you could lean on a little bit.

And so with him out, yeah, I mean, Jose Fernandez, I mean, listen, I'm all the way in, Derek. I tweeted it like the second that I saw the first home run. I mean, this kid, I'm ready to say he's special. I mean, how can you not, right? Vince McMahon.

Like, I'm going to start getting emotional thinking about this game. I might tweet that right now. I might just go, Dad, what was it like watching Jose Fernandez's debut? And it's just Vince McMahon crying because that's what it felt like watching this kid to me. night. Unbelievable, man.

Well, and on top of that, it's just something the Diamondbacks, like you said, they needed so desperately. Their offense is fine, but do you really feel great about the way it's already performed in five or four out of the five games? Not really. Not really. Yeah, it could be better for sure. Well, I mean, you know, you have two games with two runs scored.

You had this game that could potentially have been zero runs if Jose Fernandez wasn't in the lineup. And I don't want to get all, you know, crazy with that, right? Like, but it does definitely feel like if, uh, if Fernandez was not added to this team, if he was not out there doing what he did for this team tonight, that he absolutely wouldn't have, uh, this, this team would have scored any runs, right? We, we felt like this offense was going to be fine, but overall, I don't know if it's going to be fine.

I, I, I, you know, I will say that the lack of power is concerning, um, but we might have just found the power that the diamondbacks needed in their lineup. And getting back to the question, let's see. We got Jose Fernandez did play first base. Let's see. We got nine games for the Amarillo Sod Poodles that he played first base. We also have him playing a lot of shortstop and not very much third base. Same thing with Hillsborough hops.

He played a limited amount of games first base, but the majority of his time was at third base there with the Hillsborough hops with less time at shortstop. He's big, man. The problem. He's like a big dude. And that's, that's where I, I'll, here we have Mays devil and I want to shout out 199 while we're on the topic. Jose Fernandez, the chosen one. Lisan Al-Gaiib.

I mean, and, and, uh, you know, I, I feel like, you know, some people are saying it here in the chat, um, Tim from Twitter, Tim Soja from Twitter sent it to me like Carlos Correa, does he kind of look like Carlos Correa? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When you're watching him and just the, his size and. The way he's built and that swing, like, I mean, and sign you sign you up for Carlos Correa, no?

I mean. Damon? Yes. You know our rules about Killer X. And usually it's just when Killer X does something wrong that we have to put him in timeout. His latest comments says, stop putting for Hernandez on a pedestal. It's one game. Let us have fun, Killer X.

Out of this chat. Get him out of this chat, throw him out of this chat, and throw him out of this chat forever for that comment. Not on this night. Not on this night. You can come back with that attitude when he goes over four tomorrow if that's the case, Killer X. But not on this goddamn night. He gets all the pedestals.

In fact, I'm going to put him on a pedestal that's already on a pedestal. That's how it's going to work because this man deserves it. He made Major League Baseball history tonight. Again, one of seven players in the modern era since 1901 to have two home runs in his debut. Oddly enough, another one of those also happened this year, which is just just showing how exciting some of these young baseball players are and how ready they are when they make that leap to the major league level. The thing I was talking about with Tim Tawa when we were walking out was like, it's just surprising

because rarely in baseball, do you have a guy that gets hyped up, like they hyped up Jose Fernandez due to his performance in spring training and have that immediately transfer to, you know, contributions at a major league level? Very true. Right. It just doesn't happen. Also, he's been such a fast riser, no? Like this was not a guy that was really on a lot of people's radars before spring training.

But he's kind of just made himself. And I say it all the time when it comes to these prospects because I think the Diamondbacks organization in particular, like really makes these guys earn it rather than just like handing them opportunities. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. And, uh, and, and in this case, it just feels like he's been undeniable, Derek. Just absolutely in the dime. The guy, the guy forced his way onto the plans of the Diamondbacks this year because they were like, we can't lose them. We got to add him to the 40-man roster.

He's unbelievable. Are you watching this guy? And the underlying metrics on Jose Fernandez also check out. Like his spring statistics, I was looking at like a baseball savant type ordeal. I'll find it and I'll grab it here for the show. But like, Derek, I'm talking red of all reds. Oh, yeah. Elite of the elites is what we're talking here with Jose Fernandez.

For sure. And you're right. Killer Rex, you know, I'm usually a little bit more in Killer Rex's corner than You are. He's your arch nemesis. I, you know, sometimes I, I find his, I find his schick, you know, charming at times, a little bit amusing. I like the, you know, I'm just a troll at heart. So I'm a troll at heart. I'm a troll at heart. So I respect game respects game. Not tonight, brother. Yeah. Not tonight. Tonight we watched the debut of the next Alex Rodriguez. That's right. And let us have this. Yeah. This.

Candace, who was not present tonight, says, I'm sad we didn't get to see a silent treatment for him after his first, but I get it. Yeah, I mean, also his first hit was a single that he beat a ground out. He beat a grounder. He just used his speed to beat a ball that he hit that was an exit Velo of like 73 and a half miles per hour and he beats it out to first base. That right there, for me, was the moment that I like indoctrinated him into being a Dback, period. He was a Dback. using your speed to turn what was clearly an out into a single is the most debaq thing in the world, right? At least for the other guys that are a part of this team. So it was great to see that.

And that I feel like was just kind of a weight lifted off of his shoulders a little bit. Didn't have to worry about getting that hit. Didn't have to have to have things kind of back up on him to the point where he was wondering when that hit was going to come and perhaps start trying a little too hard. Instead, he's able to relax. And again, that's another thing that I believe Tori said, Tawa said, They were amazed by how calm he was making his debut, how calm he was being there in the dugout, how calm he was going into that final at bat, getting some key information from James McCann and Carlos Santana about Kenley Jansen before going out there to face him. And I mean, again, I just can't say enough about what we saw to this young man.

It was unbelievable to me. It was unbelievable to me. There was a point where Megan Plain from Fox 10 tapped me on the shoulder and said, wouldn't it be great if Alec walked right here in regards to that last sequence just so that Jose Fernandez could come up and hit a grand slam and win it with that and even in saying that it felt like just such a hopeful pipe dream of a thing after what we had seen from Jose Fernandez tonight and instead of Alec getting on he gets out and still Jose Fernandez comes up and he is the hero with a huge three home run there off of Kenley Jansen again the diamondbacks only scored those runs in that inning.

I mean, they were pretty much dead in the water offensively, like I said, throughout the entire game. Outside of Fernandez's solo home run, they're in the fourth inning. In the eighth, they finally started putting stuff together.

And, you know, it all started with a James McCann double. And also, I think James McCann during that at bat, well, no, it was Gabby Moreno. He used both of their challenges.

One was good. One wasn't. So dimebacks didn't have any challenges there late. but after McCann doubles, Loller's singles, McCann gets to third, and then Cotell-Marté walks to load the bases. So you have Marte on first,

Loller on second, and then McCann in third. And again, can't say enough about Corby-Carrel Cullough stepping up in this moment and delivering with no outs, a huge 2-RBI double in the moment that scores McCann, scores Loller, gets Cotel-Marty over to third, and puts the Diamondbacks down 5 to 3 at the moment

instead of being down 5 to 1. And then again, Perdomal walks, Gabby Moreno grounds out. You get Alec Thomas grounding out. And it all comes down with two outs to Jose Fernandez against Kelly Jansen. And he smashes, smashes a home run 409 feet, 101.6 mile per hour off the bat to win the ball game, essentially for the diamondbacks. And then we have Paul Seawald come in for his second night in a row facing his former team. And what did I say last night?

Eric. Scoobel, Skeens, Seawald, baby, the three best pitchers in baseball. He was like all asses. And I don't even know where he came up with that all of a sudden, but he's an insane person. So don't know how to trust him when it comes to labeling the best pitchers in baseball. Who knows? Maybe again, the Diamondbacks may have just fixed their problem. We're going to talk about the bullpen. We're going to talk about Seawall. We're going to talk about Brandon fought having a very, very bad day. But again, I just cannot reiterate enough. amazing this was tonight.

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I know. What was he to hit two home runs? I don't even know. I don't even know. Book's Journey says, does Jose Fernandez spell his name with him? He does now. He does now. I don't know where we're going to fit it in.

Maybe Jose Fernandez. I don't know. We'll have to figure that out. But again, defensively, the Diamondbacks was, they were solid. They didn't have a lot of miscues or anything like that. Really, the only thing that you could, I mean, again, pitching we're going to get to and Brandon fought was not very good in that third inning. But defensively, this team was solid.

And they gave the Diamondbacks everything that they, you know, every chance they could to get back in it. Offensively, though, they were just terrible, you know. And that's something that this team still needs to work on. This team still needs contributions from everybody because that's the kind of team this is. And again, you know, you got to give credit where credit is due. Thanks to Jose Fernandez. The Diamondbacks leave tonight, winners instead of losers.

Jordan Lawler was one for three for the Diamondbacks. He's still hitting 308 with a 742 OPS. James McCann, one for two, with a big butt walk there and a strikeout. But, of course, our Kingsnake tonight is the one, the only Jose Fernandez. Jose Fernandez, again, King Snake, three for four, four RBI, two home runs, two runs scored, the greatest debut in Diamondbacks history. I don't know, I don't even know what else to say. Goat him, Orica, king, captain.

It's like, no, that's predominance. I won't like, yeah, no, let's not get credit. Vice captain. Yeah, vice captain's fine, vice captain, junior captain, junior, junior, junior, junior, Junior assistant captain, but nonetheless. No, I know, I'll say this. Like, I was getting jealous of teams around the league because we kind of used to be that team

that had the young guy come up. And then you're looking across baseball and you got Kevin McGonicle over here for the Tigers. You got Chase the Louter, who now is injured and has a foot contusion. You know, you have all these young players making a big splash around baseball. And I honestly was jealous.

I was like, I want one of those. I want a young guy that comes in here and makes a huge splash. And I still, I think, was putting my focus elsewhere on like a Ryan Walschmidt down the road or something of the sort. Instead, Pabin-Smith injury unexpectedly brings Jose Fernandez up to the Major League roster. And here we are talking about once again, one of the greatest debuts we've ever seen in franchise history. And it's amazing because it pairs well with Michael Soroka making the best pitching debut in Diamondbacks history just one night ago. right there might not be you know there might still be some parts on this team that aren't working but

there is a lot of parts that are working and i can't i can only imagine the amount of confidence that this win tonight gives this team going forward this puts them back in that thought process that they had last year which is kind of no matter what the deficit is they believe that they can score the runs to to come back up with it in fact tory said uh when he was asked when they were down five to nothing how many runs he thought that they could score and he thought they wouldn't have a problem to scoring four. But, you know, again, that's only because just like in Tori's mind, it's my mind,

it would be just like this team to score four runs, but not five in a five run deficit. But regardless, Jose Fernandez, build the statue now, make a mold, let's just get it out there. I don't know if we want to put it on 7th Street, that corner, like 7th in Washington, or if we want to put it next to the, you know, like the ticket booths over, you know, kind of more on, what is it?

Like, I don't know. I don't know my streets. Fifth Street. Yeah, maybe fifth. I don't know. What number is he? 22. Number 22.

Yeah. I thought it says here he's 11 on MLB. He's 22 years old. Maybe that's it. Maybe I'm confusing those things. My apologies. Let me. I was pretty sure.

Yeah. It says number 11 on MLB. All right. Yeah. I'm envisioning a world, Derek. 42, 20, 51, 11. Those are the retired numbers in Diamondbacks history. Thoughts?

Let's put it up in the rafters tonight. I don't see a reason why we should wait. Do you? I don't know. I mean, he's... Maybe we'll give him two games. He's so number one in our hearts, Ernesto, that he's number one twice.

That's... That is how number one in our hearts he is. 11, but they're two. different ones because he's one for each home run, I guess. Anyway, we're going to take a quick break. On the other side of this break, we are unfortunately going to talk some more. We're talking more about Jose Fernandez, but we got some other stuff to talk about, including more from the clubhouse, more from Tori Lavallo, and more from Brandon Fott. And we will hear from Jose Fernandez himself. Let's do that on the other side of this break. Don't you go anywhere? You're watching

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Which we'll have here in a half second. Oh, okay. Yeah, absolutely. Of course, you know, we do have a lot of pitching stuff to talk about, but I don't want to talk about any of that. I just want to talk about the pleasantries of Tori, Luello, especially getting blocked here by our guy while he was starting, well, he's starting to talk. But Tori, again, couldn't have been more excited.

There was discussions about a beer shower. Tori Lovallo, in fact, said he was thinking about Jose Fernandez getting that beer shower while he was up at the plate for that final at bat. So if you don't think this guy's a fan just like the rest of us, you're mistaken. But I think we have his opening comments, which are briefly blocked by one of our fellow reporters. Here's what Tori had to say overall about this win and Jose Fernandez's big night. A good moment for this team, this organization, for all the people that have been around, Jose kept pushing him, teaching him, and then ultimately it falls on Jose to go out there and let it all shine. And he deserves all this credit.

And we're so proud of him. He's a player that came through our system through our hands. It's just a great story. It's a great baseball story. And we've been known, we've known about Jose for a long time. We knew he was coming. Came in a really strong last year. Very versatile player defensively.

Burl up the baseball was starting to shrink the zone up, showed that patience and that confidence, and got this opportunity made the most of it. So, you know, we all celebrate with him today, and he deserves it. And so they're in there right now, and I had to tear myself away from all the good times. We deserve those good times for some of the things that we go through, and the hardships that we go through,

that we go through to get to this point, I want them to enjoy this moment with Jose. So a special moment for him and we haven't won a baseball game. But there's a lot of things that went on inside this game that helped us win this game. So Andrew Hoffman, given us two scoreless settings. Brandon Fogg getting super stubborn after giving up five runs and one inning. He could have collapsed, but he didn't. Paul Sewell coming in and getting the same. Building an inning.

I keep saying the best thing about this team is you just don't know where or when it's going to start. and they spoiled us over the past several years with being able to put up four or five runs in no time. I was talking to Cap after the five run inning that we had given up and I said, we're going to score at least four. And he said, how do you know? I said, because we do it every night. So once we got that move, that line moving,

guys took over, Corby had the big hit, but it was patient approaches by several hitters that led to some base on balls. It's overall a great one for this team. So we'll enjoy it. Hopefully we can carry this through on into tomorrow. We've got a very tough customer at school. And we'll be as ready as we possibly can be to go out there and run another game.

Michael Dixon is very right. He said Tori was sad he had to leave to come to the presser. He said that multiple times. He said he had to be drug away from the celebration. And he even sounded Damon a little sad about it. And I can understand. You're in there with the boys. Shaving cream and beer is flying all over.

fun stuff is happening and the last thing you want to do is come talk to us dorks about you know stats and sports and you know what we thought what your thoughts are right tonight um again there was another comment from stuff plus enthusiasts that said uh tonight's not about rational takes god damn right tonight is about uh celebrating the amazing accomplishment of a young man that truly could be the future of this team and even as quickly as damon was to add him to the the core could actually be that. Let's be honest, this team has had that ability to add young players almost one at a time that kind of emerge and go from just being a baseball player or a prospect or a guy that's been called up to being a superstar. We've seen it with Corbin. Hell, we saw it with Cotele-Marté when he wasn't even the biggest part of a trade with Seattle. And now we're seeing it with Roldo Pardomo. We're seeing it perhaps with Jose Fernandez. It's very exciting, very exciting. And I I mean, again, the sky does seem to be the limit for this kid. I think somebody said that the ceiling was God and the floor was like Barry Bonds.

And I couldn't agree more, quite frankly. That seems like an under-exaggeration. Yeah, that just seems like a rational thought. We're not trying to be rational here on tonight's show. But we hear more from Tori. Tori couldn't stop talking about Jose Fernandez. Here he has more on Fernandez's historic night. Yeah, he's just got a good heartbeat.

He's very engaged. I don't think any part of the day gets too far, gets too big for him. He can slow the game down at the right point time. You know, Kelly's got a very unique pitch. He got some advice to the dug out about how to attack it and put a good swing on the baseball so he can apply things. I think there's great aptitude. I think he's a highly intelligent player.

And we've known about him for a long time. He's 17 years old. Now he's 22. We've had him for five years and watch him develop. So we know what he's built on. And there's a lot of trust. He trusts what he's got going on inside of this organization and got him to this point. I'm going to tell you this right now to all of you people bringing up in the chat.

The cactus light emoji will be back tomorrow. And if it's not back tomorrow, I won't be back tomorrow. That's that. I stand 10 toes down on this. I will retire from the game if we don't get the cactus light emoji back in this chat tomorrow. Damon, mark my words. Literally mark, mark, mark them now. Mark my words so that way I can.

somehow wiggle my way out of this. But the biggest thing here is obviously what this night could do for Jose Fernandez. I already said enough about what this night could do for this team, just as far as making them believe in themselves, making them feel like no deficit is too much and that they have it in them to come back. Baseball is weird because a five to nothing game does seem like a blowout. It does seem like it's something that you can't come back from. but the Diamondbacks did it in one inning.

They didn't even need that extra home run from Jose Fernandez earlier in the game. And then maybe all the times I said that the final score was six to five would have made more sense instead of me being wrong like I was. But the score was in fact 7 to 5 and this night could be extremely important for Jose Fernandez. The things that a debut like this can do for the belief in yourself is incredible. And he is a prospect, a player that it is already known. He has all of the tools and everything it takes to be a special superstar at a major league level. But you kind of have to get that monkey off your back in a way of that first hit.

And boy, did he. Not only did he get his first hit in that single, but he was able to deliver with two huge home runs. And Tori was asked about how this night, what this kind of night could do for his confidence and how long it could carry him for. This is what Tori had to say. Yeah, it can carry you for. a whole season. He's never going to forget this, but I know he's going to sit good tonight. He's going to feel good about himself, and he deserves that. So I want to make all the calls he's supposed to, call home, check in with loved ones and share with them, and thank them for the love

and support along the way, and then be ready to go again tomorrow. He's going to get some opportunities here. There's no doubt about it. There's an opening for some playing time, and we're going to explore that. Well, I don't think that there was anybody that was more excited. about Jose Fernandez's performance tonight that Brandon fought. And that's simply because Brandon Fott actually did have a good outing tonight. If you want to classify the five other innings other than the third inning, right? Which, again, is something that's special and unique about Brandon Fought. His ability to have that inning go sideways on him but still be able to come out and get outs and still be, you know, a productive pitcher.

somebody who the Diamondbacks can trust after having that big inning will still give them some innings of work so that Tori doesn't have to turn to his bullpen in the third inning. It would have been a disaster if he had to go to his pen that early. Not only would have been a disaster for this game, most likely, but it would have been a disaster for how things lined up going forward for the finale tomorrow and beyond that. So very, very lucky that the Diamondbacks, even though Brandon fought, did have an awful inning and I'm not going to sugarcoat it. And neither did he.

Brandon Fott didn't even want to give any excuses. He just said he was bad. Lannon pitches too much in the zone. He wasn't hitting his spots. I mean, he took full responsibility for it. But again, there is nobody in that clubhouse that is more excited for Jose Fernandez's night probably than Brandon Fott. So that we can all just kind of forget that that one bad inning that he had. Fott also said that he was in the clubhouse when this home run took place.

And he was losing his mind. and then he was asked who he was celebrating with, and he just said the other, the trainers. It was just him and the trainers in the clubhouse, just screaming and hugging and having the best time. But here is what Brandon Fought had to say about Jose Fernandez's big night. Yeah, there was. We had some fun with him.

That sounds terrible, but we all cheered for him when he came in. It was really cool. What kind of poise has he's shown you in the way he's played in a lot of them? Yeah, I think we saw it in spring training. We saw it. He had a phenomenal spring training, and I think that's why he was able to get called up so early in the season because everybody knows that.

And I think he showed it tonight to everybody else. And we knew that he was that ballplayer ever since the first day in spring training when he showed up. And I'm looking forward to playing with him and seeing how he keeps it going. Well, we're not done talking about Jose Fernandez. as, but we do kind of have to address Brandon Fought's night. Obviously not the best outing. And one of those innings, as Damon and I referenced in the past, just one of those

Brandon Fought innings, one of those Brandon Fought games. This is such a quintessential Brandon Fought game where you can watch Fott pitch and think he is so good and he's just cruising and then he'll have one inning where everything falls apart. And unfortunately, that's the reason why you see him end up with the ERA that he's ended up with for the last few seasons, and it's the reason why, you know, his stuff suddenly falls off. Like the tip pitching might be a problem that goes far beyond this game, but it very much seemed like that. All it took was a harmless single from Parker Meadows that was like 75

miles an hour off the bat to get a base runner on. And then from that point on, it really felt like, you know, his pitches weren't landing where he wanted them to. The Jake Rogers had a double with an exit below of 101.4 miles per hour. That was followed up by a single by Cole Keith. That was 105.5 miles per hour. And it just felt like the tigers were just hitting the hell out of the ball, no matter what he threw. But again, if you go back and look,

it was a sinker that didn't sink that landed right in the middle of the zone and a sweeper that didn't sweep or a slider, depending on if you ask Steve Gilbert or Brandon Fott, it was a sweeper that didn't sweep. And again, that just didn't. It set him up for a lack of, of success and it also put those base runners on that had him pitching out of the stretch and you

could tell like the tiger it felt like the tigers knew what was coming Kevin mcgonical singled on a ball that should have registered an out but carlos santana kind of over committed to coming home there were base runners everybody was fast and making their way around and instead of registering and out couldn't get anyone out and then that scored a run that put the tigers up two to nothing at the time. James McCann challenged a ball two call on Glaber Torres that was overturned for a strikeout and that was the second out of the inning. And then with two on and two out, Riley Green hit a base clearing double that put the Tigers up four to nothing. That was followed up by Carrie Carpenter who only has one hit this season who singled and scored green and added to the lead

and that made it five to nothing at the time. But the inning mercifully came to an end after nine batters and five runs scored. And it felt like the Diamondbacks were cooked at that point. Brandon fought was staying away from his foreseam. It was the last pitch that he wanted to throw tonight, and it felt like that, even though that's not necessarily one of the pitches he uses a lot. It still felt like it was one of those pitches that was not in the mix nearly enough. 36% sinker usage today, 27% curbball usage, 14% sweeper, 12% cutter, 6% changeup, which was really affected for him before, and then 5% force seam.

he did get 18 swings and misses but he only got three strikeouts six six innings pitch six hits five run runs one walk three strikeouts so um again like brandon fought it's it's just one of those odd outings right it's the fact that he's able to go out there and give the diamond backs what he gave them for two innings of you know hitless no no base runners for the first two innings and then just runs into a wall there in the third but luckily like I said earlier the silver lining to is that he was able to come back out and still give the Diamondback six innings instead of walking off the field at two and two thirds or two in a third and leaving the rest of the game up to the bullpen. That would have been a disaster and we probably wouldn't be sitting here talking about

a Diamondback seven to five win. Also, Andrew Hoffman, Superbad, was very good tonight. In fact, he also helped this bullpen out considerably because he goes out there because two innings of work, hitless, scoreless baseball. he walks one, he strikes out three. Just an excellent outing from a guy who I have kind of believed in since last season. I saw the belief in him kind of growing when the Diamondbacks were using him in high leverage situations last year.

Then you started seeing him be put into spring training games during Cactus League play where he was coming in in the eighth inning, ninth inning. It's meaningless games. I know it's not high leverage in Cactus League, but it's as high leverage as you can get, right? And you could just tell that that was the role that they were kind of grooming Hoffman for. And tonight, he was nails for this team. But the guy that we have to all apologize to, we all have to write a letter apologizing to is Paul Seawald. Because he once again was incredible.

3Ks and is one inning of work tonight. I can't explain it. All I can say is that perhaps Seawald is finally feeling healthy and most important. He's using his sweeper more than his fastball, and that feels like a recipe for success, even though it wasn't, he didn't throw many pitches. He threw 13 pitches in this outing. Seven sweepers, four forcing fastballs.

His max Velo, 91.3 miles per hour. 3K. Damon? Damon? Is this the Paul Seawald redemption arc that Sean has so desperately been sinking? Is Paul Seawald back? chat?

Paul Seawald might in fact be back chat. That, uh, yeah, that, that, that, the last two games have spoke to me a little bit and not to say that like I'm sold because I think that, you know, to Killarex's point, like, don't don't, don't, well, I was going to say about like Lawler, like he's not sold yet, despite Lawler looking really good to start this season. I think we do need to see more before we start feeling comfortable with these guys. I don't need to say anything from anybody. The Paul Seawald games, the last two games have looked.

It hasn't just, you know, been good results. they've looked good too. Like he's gone out there and shut shit down, Derek. And I love it. I love it. I love it too, man. And if Paul Seawalt thinks he's the best pitcher in baseball right now and injected into my veins.

Let him keep thinking that. Let him keep thinking that. I don't care. But I will say that Tori did have some very encouraging things about Fott. I asked him at the end of the press conference just about his ability to do this. Like, again, I know this is me glazing. Brandon Fott. trying to get ahead of it right there for the chat.

But what I will say is that I still find it to be impressive considering how often you see a pitcher meltdown, leave the game, right? Like Brandon Fott literally has a strange unique ability for him to melt down and then come back and somehow be stronger than ever in the same game, which is just so weird, right? But this is what Tory had to say about Brandon Fott

basically kind of, doing that exact thing of struggling in a game but still finding a way to come out and give them strong innings to help the bullpen out. I think Mac and he started to get into some rhythm and had some good conversations between aides and you know if we have to take them off the field

in that third or fourth inning we're going to probably dig into the bullpen and make it a little bit thinner but the fact that he was able to give us those extra three innings was massive I just think that's his experience and his heartbeat. And Brandon kind of fits into that mindset that he's able to go and execute, slow it down. I think experience plays a major factor in that. He's just been down this road a few times where he's like, okay, let me pull it together

and start to execute and put up some zeros. And that's what he's been able to do. And it's, again, it's not something that's easy to do. And you would much rather see it not be like, a complete collapse in an inning before he can figure it back out and that's what brandon fought needs to work on but i i mean let's let's hear from brandon fought on his performance he definitely like i said took accountability for it this is what brandon fought had to say about his night no i think just some just some bad pitches some um infield singles and um but overall i felt

great. I felt like I was throwing the ball from the first inning to the six inning. The same just got a little out of hand in the third, but we were able to fight back and hold strong and have a good good outing. And Hoffman came in and did a phenomenal job. He keeps in the game. And we already talked about Jose Fernandez coming in and doing his thing. So just an ultimate team win and fun to watch. Brandon Fott said something there that I think, you know, is a big factor in his night. And that is like there were a couple infield singles. It wasn't like the Tigers were just hitting the hell out of the baseball.

And to even compound on top of that, Alec Thomas is about one step from getting to that, that baseball that goes into the gap. Like, I don't think that this was necessarily a bad Brandon Fott performance. I think he did get a bit unlucky. Yeah. I think that's kind of the name of the game with Brandon Fought throughout his careers. he gets a bit unlucky because Derek, you look at the, the, or by the numbers for tonight and how this game played out. Look at that expected batting average from the Tigers. Yeah, 134.

And obviously the bullpen did a solid job of, you know, keeping that number low as well. But it feels like, you know, Brandon Fought did actually have a pretty good game tonight. He did get a bit unlucky. The Tigers did get some runs across in that inning. And, and yeah. Well, and looking at these numbers right now, Diamondbacks win this game seven to five. they out hit the Tigers 8 to 6. Runners in scoring position, I guess a push.

They were more efficient going four for five. The Diamondbacks were four for nine. Extra base hits is the big thing here, especially considering two of those are the home runs there by Jose Fernandez. But you're right, the expected batting average, the Diamondbacks 248, the Tigers 134, they were held. And a lot of those hits, especially like I said, that Parker Meadows hit, that shouldn't have been a hit.

You know, and I know it was, and I know I can sit here and say it shouldn't have been a hit all I want, but it shouldn't have been a goddamn hit. And then there, you know, you have other things too that probably shouldn't have been a hit. Like the Glaber, or no, not Glaber Torres, the Kevin McGonical single that Carlos Santana got to. That should have registered an out and that should have been enough there for the Glaber Torres strikeout to be the final out of the inning

instead of more, you know, the inning extended, Riley Green being able to hit that double, Carrie Carpenter singling and adding those basically those three additional runs. But the most important here about the buy the numbers, Damon, is that final stat line there down at the bottom, which is do they have the next A-Rod? Diamondbacks, yes.

Tigers, hell no. God, no. They don't have anything close to the next Alex Rodriguez. Kevin McGonagall? Yeah. Was that a professor and Harry Potter? Yes, that's what it sounds like. Mr. McGonical.

Jose Fernandez. is an absolute stud. Yeah, no, absolutely, absolutely. He's a certified G and a bona fide stud, and as you know, Damon, you can't teach that. But what we do have to talk about is, as much as you are right about Brandon Fott, we do have to have an uncomfortable conversation here,

an unpleasant conversation about Brandon Fott. I think it was Nate Cleveland in our chat, Damon brought up, who is the person, you know, that goes once Merrill Kelly comes back, right? So, I mean, that's a very good question. Who goes to the bullpen one time through the lineup when Kelly comes back? I mean, it was looking like Brandon Fott in inning number three of this baseball game.

Right. And then he did the thing that Brandon Fott does all the damn time where then you start going, like I said, oh my God, we can fix him. Wouldn't look, Derek, but things are so fun when we hang out together. and he drives such a cool car. His music is really good. It's really calm and chill. He's a chill guy. But then he never texts me back whenever we're done hanging out.

And that's the problem. He's got other stuff going on in life. We just need to answer anybody's text, Damon. We need to figure out how to fix Brandon Fott because my God, does it look good when it looks good? It really does. And that's why I say we might have to have an unpleasant conversation here about Brandon Fought, because one of the things Brandon Fought tends to do is come out strong and have two innings of looking untouchable, maybe three,

and then things fall apart in the fourth or things fall apart in the fifth. And in that instance, it does sound like he might have the makeup to be an elite reliever, at least for this season, not going forward in his career. However, I can also understand that as a starting pitcher, you never want to start going down this path because of how much it, how hard it is for you to go back to starting once you venture down the path of being a reliever, even a closer, which is what every reliever essentially should strive to want to be, is the best reliever on the team, which is what the closer is.

But when it comes to Brandon Fought, there's a couple of things here that impact the decision when Merrill Kelly comes back. Not only that, but my God, the decision the Diamondbacks have to make when Corbyn Burns returns. And Merrill Kelly is here. And Zach Gallen is here. And E. Rod is shoving. and Michael Soroka is making history, right? And Ryan Nelson is Ryan Nelson.

But Ryan Nelson and Brandon Faw are the only two players. They are the only two pitchers in the starting rotation with options. And that could easily make them expendable as far as options are concerned, Damon. And I hate that. This is the unpleasant conversation that I'm talking about. But it's real. Because when it comes down to it, if everybody is performing well, then they have to make a decision, unfortunately,

based on the options they have. And I don't mean to be using that in the same way as just options a moment ago. But, I mean, the Diamondbacks are limited on options what they can do. They can DFA a guy. They can make them a reliever or they can option them to Reno. And all three of those suck when you're starting pitcher. Zach Gallen closer. Are you guys ready for the experience?

No, but actually I do think that some people have said it here in the chat and I think it's the truth. The baseball season is long enough and you sustain enough. injuries where having six starters, I don't think is too much. Exactly. No, exactly. And I think the dinerbacks are going to need at least six starters. Let's hope that it's just one guy. And then, you know, another guy can kind of, you know, tag in.

Like, it's, you need, you were going to need all these guys to start games all season long. But they can't, they can't take a guy and put them in the pen and then have them come back to the starting rotation. No doubt. Yeah. They can't do that. So the problem there is, is that that's why it makes Ryan and Brandon almost like, exposed almost like Rule 5 draft guys, right, in a way where they are exposed because when it comes down to it, they are the only ones that they could send to Reno to stay stretched out and do

stay ready as a starting pitcher for that inevitable need to come. I think you roll, I think you'd roll with six because you would deem them all valuable enough that you didn't want to get rid of them necessarily. And then you kind of weighed out an injury. That's what I mean, but you just can't do a six-man rotation. You just, they just want. I mean, you can't. You can. I don't hate it. I don't hate a six-man rotation, especially considering the Diamondbacks,

you know, predicament that they're in, that none of their pitchers as good as they are at times are reliable and consistent, right? That's the one thing is I need to see some consistency out of anybody here. That goes for relievers, starters, it doesn't matter. I will also add that I feel like a six-man rotation, you know, it is unconventional,

but, and it has been done. done before. But yeah, I mean, yeah, I just, I, I, I don't necessarily know if it would happen, but I do feel like it would, it would, it would almost weed itself out immediately because of the amount of injuries that you have to your arms. Nate Cleveland's asking, how is an extra day off be bad? Well, it's not just the extra day because sometimes they have an off day.

So then now you're, now you're seven days in between your starts and baseball. for some reason is very goddamn particular when it comes to this stuff. And they start saying that starting pitchers, when they get that much time off, start losing their ability to stay stretched out. I don't know. I don't have an explanation for it. And we saw what that did to Corbyn Burns maybe last year.

And that was a disaster, right? So, you know, we want to keep these guys on their routine. I guess what I was going to say, Derek, is that if you have a six-man rotation, this means that it's the, your, this scenario is, because you can't get rid of one of them because they all haven't been bad. Right. If that makes sense.

Right. So it's almost like a first world problems type of situation where it's like, well, if we're in a spot where all six of our starters are like we feel good about them, then I guess the Diamondbacks are playing pretty good baseball at that moment in time. It's definitely a good problem to have. but I guess my point being and getting back to tonight's game, an outing like this from Brandon Fott could put him on the outside looking in a little bit. Because if everybody is pitching well, then you kind of have to look at the guy that gave up five earned runs in his outing or whatever the case may be, right?

And I mean, again, as much as I want to pretend that everybody is equal and the Diamondbacks would view everyone the same, I don't think that's the case. I don't think Zach Gallen or I don't think Merrill Kelly are going. going anywhere. But I will say that the Diamondbacks have not shied away from making that decision in the past when Jordan Montgomery stunk and they put him in the bullpen. So maybe, maybe that's the case. But we need to take a quick break. And on the other side of this break, we still have more Jose Fernandez to talk about. I'm not going to sugarcoat it for you guys.

We're going to talk about it for two straight hours. We're going until 3 a.m. again, until Damon taps out and is screaming at me about this podcast being on so late. Two people blowfie says, okay, guys, we're getting off topic. Back to Jose Fernandez. He gets it. He gets it. So let's get back there. We're going to take a quick break.

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day? I'm going to tell you right now the odds are zero percent. Wow, you think so? Less than zero percent. Because I was leaning more towards 99 percent. I would go with negative 5,000 percent that Tori is not going to have him in the line of tomorrow. In fact, I have confirmation from Tori himself who looked us right in the eyes and said he is

going to be in the lineup tomorrow. I think Teo Mackey, who made his grand return to covering guy back to baseball. I noticed that when I was doing cutting up these videos, I'm sitting here and I go, tail action. I go, by go, by golly, if that isn't sound like Teo Mackey asking some questions right now. You're like, Arizona Cardinals reporter. Did we call it the big guns? Not really.

Posey Fernandez night. Tori said he must have been demoted is what Tori said, coming back to cover baseball. And Tori might have been right about that. But of course, he did, he did confirm. And Teo asked like, did that show. change obviously and there was kind of some smiles and maybe maybe it was like tori Tori agreed that maybe he did change his mind but it's a good thing to hear that he changed his mind because man what a night here for Jose Fernandez we have a couple of videos from the clubhouse

from Jose here is Jose Fernandez talking about the moment and uh that that moment the moment and the advice from vets that he got before going out there well simply was I was trying to keep the emotions in that moment, in to look at good pitchers, and I was, I was, I was prepared, for, so I knew that emotions in check. I knew something like that can happen and just look for a pitch. Yes, they said, like,

the form in the way he pitch about, how he'd like he'd like to do those pitchers, that you could have ready for that. They kind of walked me and talked to me about his style of pitch in the way he kind of, you know, rotations. And that last portion was about,

specifically, I believe it was Carlos Santana and James McCann. James McCann, yeah, were the two veterans that were giving advice to Jose Fernandez in that spot that we're kind of trying to give him some tendencies of maybe what Kenley Jansen throws and, and, you know,

just kind of, you know, putting that arm over their shoulder that Derek always talks about all the time of exactly why you have. James McCann, Carlos Santana, Nolan Aronado, and these guys are your team. And I mean, again, I'm not discrediting Nolan Aronado. I just haven't seen it with him as much. I did see it during spring, though.

So I have to say, like, he absolutely was out there working with guys. And during Cactus League play, several players credited Nolan Aronado for just chatting with them, talking with them about, you know, fielding and such, you know, but I think there is definitely something different from James McCann. We saw that last year. and Carlos Santana here once again after, you know, one day removed from hearing Alec Thomas talk about him directly with drills and in the cages on his leg kick,

here we are hearing about Carlos Santana once again being a mentor to a young player or at least just a really solid teammate, right? Just a guy that goes up to his teammate, a younger guy, a guy making his debut, and tries to impart on him as much knowledge as he can in that very short amount of time while he has a bat in his hand and, you know, things are going on out there on the field. They're swapping Kenley Jansen, bringing Kenley Jansen in to pitch to him,

and he's trying to do his best to get as much info on him. And by the way, he was asked if he knew Kenley Jansen, and he kind of gave an amazing answer, which I'm probably going to translate better. But here we go. This is what he had to say about knowing Kenley Jansen. Definitely. I know what kind of career he said.

The reason I'm here is because I can compete with. those type of pictures. He also said, Derek, where are your keys? Hand them to Jose Fernandez because he, we're throwing him the keys to the franchise. He gets here. My keys are right here. Give him the keys to the franchise, Derek. He can have them. I don't know

I'm going to get home, but he can, they're his now. Those are your keys. I mean, he's seriously, he's like, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, I know Kenley Jansen. Well, he did say beforehand and I mean, I don't know if you, you saw that with his answer in the clip because he didn't, Alex didn't translate it, but he actually

said, I've watched Kelly Jensen pitch since I was a kid. And like, you think about it, he's 22 years old. Yeah. He was like 10 years old when Kenley Jansen. I watched Kenley Jansen when I was a kid. But you're also very young.

You make me sick. You make me sick. Well, I'm just saying he's younger than me. Like, think about all he knows is Kenley Jansen as a kid. Right. Yeah. I'm just saying that's, it's amazing.

Right. And again, this is a guy. Yeah. This is Kenley Jansen got started his career in 2010, Damon, 16 years ago. Jose Fernandez was what, six years old? Yeah, so literally, probably his entire time of being online as a person. He's known who Kenley Jansen is. And here tonight, he rocked him and won the game for the Arizona Diamondbacks. He is him, and that's it. What else do we got here? We got Fernandez on that moment and how he felt right in that moment hitting that home run. This is what he had to say.

I really, I've to time back when I was a moment that one, as a little when you, when I'm

in that moment that's actually is something for me. I return to my days as a kid. Just a dream

come true, just kind of what you remember transporting you back as a kid. I mean, yeah, man, think about it.

Like, again, not to be old and harp on how 10 years earlier he literally was a kid, but yeah, man, I mean,

he had that night that you, when we play on our stupid little basketball hoop out here, we do the, you know, three, two, one, making the shot. Like every kid that was wanted to grow up to be an athlete that held a bat in their hand or a ball in their hand, wanted to be in this moment, wanted to be the hero and wanted to experience this. And it's just amazing for Jose Fernandez, how quickly he went from being a AAA minor league player to being called up and making his debut and now just kind of a legend status.

Now, again, one time Seth Beer hit a walk off on home day, on opening day, right, at home. So I will preface this by let's let's let him do it in more than one game before we start making P.HNX T-shirts about him again because I still don't hear the end of that from Eric for my Seth Beer stuff. But of course, we're going to take a quick break. We're done, I think, with Jose Fernandez. I don't know if there's anything else we can say about him other than he better be, he better be in the lineup tomorrow. And Tori said that to us. So if he didn't, I will scream at him for lying to me tomorrow in the press conference. I won't really do that because then he'll just call me Circle K a bunch and then I'll feel bad about myself. But tomorrow we do have

Terrick Scoobble on the mound, Kingman's own, Kingman's finest, going up against one Zach Gallen, and a very important outing. And you could argue that every outing for every starting pitcher is important between now and when those difficult decisions have to be made when Merrill Kelly is healthy and returns and a month or month and a half plus maybe down the road there when Corbyn Burns returns which by the way Tori provided us with some injury updates before today's game he did say that Merrill Kelly uh threw and and felt good he threw today he'll throw in Albuquerque in AAA for AAA Reno on Friday I believe so that will be the next time we'll see Merrill Kelly actually pitch and then they will make decisions on what the next

steps will be after that outing. But Corbyn Burns apparently through a max effort bullpen and you love to see that, Damon. He's still not throwing like his breaking stuff and there's still some steps to go before he actually starts trying to stretch out and get ready to start the major league baseball season, but it feels like everybody is kind of ahead of schedule here. He even brought up Lordus Gurriel Jr. And he, you guys know balled me, by the way, because I brought up the thing that you and I have discussed quite a bit to him, which is when Lordus comes back, is there a good chance that he plays DH and instead of the outfield right away? And Tori did the infamous Tori thing, which was like, you guys been listening to our conversations going on in the office. No, me and Damon

have just been wondering about this since we were watching Lordus run the bases on IG like two months ago, right? We were like, this guy is back. And even if you're going to give him that extra time to ensure that his knee is fine, we might as well get his back back in the lineup, which sounds like it's going to be something we will see here soon, probably by the end of April. So again, reinforcements are on the way, and that's good news for this Diamondbacks team. But they don't need reinforcements because they have, as you know, Jose Fernandez. The next A rod.

The next A rod. The next Carlos Correa. The next Carlos Correa. Let me grab that real quick for us. I wanted the baseball savant from his spring, Derek, because it was pretty impressive stuff. Let's do that. We'll talk about it on the other side of this break.

We'll show you that. And then we'll also yell about the new city connectorsies that are all bad. They're all bad. And again, we don't need to talk about that. But I'm going to keep Damon here super late just to talk about things that have nothing to do with the Diamondbacks. Love you guys for being here. You know what you're watching. You're watching the PHNXD back show.

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All right, Damon. Well, we know we got some special stuff to look at here with Jose Fernandez, as you were discussing earlier. Baseball savant page, kind of electric. I mean, so far, everything he's been doing for this franchise has been electric. Jose Fernandez? Yes. Yeah, he's the man. He's him.

He's, you know, my muse. I love Jose Fernandez. He means everything to us. Yeah, he's my whole world. This is the Jose Fernandez podcast. It actually is the world's foremost Jose Fernandez podcast. And I would like to claim in stake our claim in that Alec Thomas at the Citizens Bank Ballpark style. Correct.

With just a flag and a big picture of his face on the flag. Absolutely. And here's the numbers I pulled from spring training. This is via Tim Soja on Twitter who sent it my way. But I mean, just look at this, Derek. Is that not special? Wow. That's, that's, you know, his spring training, batting percentiles among other players that

were participating in spring training. But that's a lot of Red Man, hard hit percentage, barrel percentage. Aggressive, probably his weakness, right? Some strikeout, not a lot of walks, not a lot of strike or a lot of strikeouts. But whiffing a little bit. Yeah, but when he hits the ball, it's hard. And that's something like the, the patients can be taught. The patience comes with experience and time.

but being able to rip a goddamn baseball, 105 miles per hour, that's not necessarily something that you can teach just anybody. That's kind of some raw power that this kid has, not to mention the fact that we've just seen him in such a short amount of time, take such a leap forward, right? He's been in the Diamondback system for five years,

and in that time frame, the one thing everybody is described is the coaching, the accepting coaching and implementing it and having it impact his game, positively having it impact his approach at the plate and his at bats having it to help him in the field it just seems like everything about this guy is on track to be very much like corbin carroll who just kind of had a had a like meteoric rise and just kept getting better every every year and still seems to be better even with a hand injury that's holding him and several other players back uh still

finding ways to deliver big hits like he did tonight with that double and still finding a way to be productive on the base path. So again, shout out to Jose Fernandez. Just what, what a complete game tonight from him. And what a way to stake your claim on a roster spot, right? No doubt. Like you said, way to come up and plant your flag like Alex did in the starting lineup and say, I ain't going nowhere. Yeah. I mean, it's like we talked about, this is a team that needs guys that are going to step up and and provide some offensive output. So if he can continue to, to, you know, show some pop here, it's, it's, he's going to be undeniably in this lineup day in and day out. I know Killer X is saying we're going to jinx him. Nobody is actually saying Jose Fernandez is like no doubt.

Write him in Sharpie in the lineup the rest of the season. But I am. When, when we were doing the pregame show yesterday, Derek, we're sitting here and we're, we're like, Jose Fernandez does have some aura about him. Like we, he just, the way he carries himself, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, feels confident. He feels like he belongs here and he looks the part as well. Like with with the frame, with the athleticism, with the swing, with the, you know, how hard he hits the baseball and just this, this fast rise that you see a lot of the times from guys that are successful that maybe weren't the heralded up top prospects of an organization. But when they do rise, they rise really quickly and people start opening their eyes and going, oh my God, have you seen what this Jose Fernandez dude is doing for the diamondbacks? in the spring training and people are like the guy on the marlins and you're like no they have a new Jose Fernandez and he's very hard to look up on baseball reference by 100% and so I just feel like

this stuff happens fast obviously you know it's not it's not a done and dusted thing where this guy's a superstar where he's an all star but why are you being why are you being rational right now what is going on I spent an hour and 15 minutes being irrational Derek this is a real You'll take for a second, damn it. God. You know, I don't like when we get real. You sit here and try to tell me, like, we, we're chatting, we're joking. And then Damon tries to start talking to me about, like, life problems.

And then everything just falls apart. We don't have that kind of relationship. We keep it light around here. And we overreact. That's what we do. We are irrational. This is the irrational baseball podcast. If you want the rational one, you know where Jesse lives.

But I will say this. I am ready to build the statue of us. and I don't care anything of what you're saying. I don't need to see two games. I'm writing his name in Sharpie, and this man is a legend. He's a living legend. I'm thinking about a society, Derek,

where we live in where Jordan Lawler continues to play how he's been playing to start this season. Which several people have a problem with, apparently, even though he's hitting 300. So there's that. But I just want to address that real fast. He's having good at bats too. He's seeing a lot of pitches. Corbyn Carroll right field,

Jordan Lawler's centerfield, Ryan Walschman left field. You, you. And then maybe a little bit of Jose Fernandez third base, Perdomo shortstop, Cattel second, Gabby catcher. Most electric exciting team we've ever seen in your life. We always need the first basement in that scenario in a pitching staff. It's the it's the, the lineup is starting to really come to come into place here.

Yeah. The young lineup of of studs. Joshua wants to know where's Waldo? Where's Waldo? Where is Waldo? Yeah, there's that's, that's it works. It works. But you know,

doesn't work for me, Damon. The latest batch of City Connect jerseys. You know how sometimes in life you're just so grateful that like, oh, man, I'm glad I got that thing before they turned, right? Oh, before it got bad, before the quality became worse. Yeah, like, let's say, man, I'm glad I bought that jersey before Fanatics took over and started making them, huh? Am I right?

Man, I'm glad I got that D-back's turn or ahead of the clock jersey. Turned ahead of the clock jersey. Me and Dave were about to show up and batching turns. at the clock jerseys on this show and you guys are going to lose your mind when it happens. But apparently they've been doing a very bad job of keeping the City Connect stuff secret. Like we, we had, you and I, we had sources or sauces, as I like to call them. We had like speculation. We had people sending us stuff.

There was all sorts of craziness with the City Connect jersey for the Diamondbacks. We knew a lot about it before it came out, but we didn't really see a picture until it was ready to debut. And in this case, all of these jerseys have leaked. Damon, can we look at these terrible City Connect jerseys that might just bring this entire thing to its knees? We got Baltimore, Bemore, that thing over there in the corner is supposed to be a Royals jersey. I hated Texas, the Texas Rangers City Connect that they currently have, and that Tejas red one in the corner is so much worse than the one that they currently have. the Atlanta one is kind of bad but I don't hate that one

The Cincinnati Reds one is bad bad I hate that one What the shit is Wisco Whisco? Wisco For the Brewers And it has orange numbers On the back damon Where is the orange coming from?

What even are you anymore brewers? What do you stand for? The only jersey I like in this whole thing Is maybe the Braves one And the San Diego Padres one The Pirates one is boring but it's not offensive to the eye. But yeah, no, Aaliyah, I know Tejas's Texas.

That's not the point. The point is that's an awful jersey, just like so many of these are. I think the Teos one is actually okay. Oh, I hate it. Here's what I'll say. The bottom row is propping up the rest of them quite a bit here. I think that the bottom row is decent.

What is that? The Royals one at the top. Yeah, it's Royals and then Baltimore Orioles and Pirates, Reds. Bemore stinks. Can we go ahead and get on that taking early? They have so many cool names that they call that city. Isn't Baltimore's nickname like Charm City or something like that?

Bemore stinks. The Pirates one, I'm not really sure what they got going on there. It kind of just looks like a pirate jersey, but they made the yellow less saturated. Dude, okay, I'm going to run through all of the names. The Reds stink. The Baltimore nicknames are going to infuriate you.

Wiscoe is awful. Charm City. Okay. Mob Town. Hard. Clipper City. Crag cake capital of the world. Imagine it just saying crab cake capital of the world.

I would buy one right now. The wire themed jerseys. One of their, yeah, exactly. It's just going to just said the wire across it. Oh. Bodymore. Harm City. I hate these jerseys.

I hate them all so much. Like this just. I actually think Tejas is cool the more I look at it. I'm with the way. I hate it. I'm with chat here. I hate it. Is that the,

so Teos is the Rangers, I assume? Yeah, that's the Rangers. I like the Padres one. I do. Yeah, it's decent. I think the Braves one is cool.

Killer X is right. The Baltimore one should just say she. Oh my God. All right. Well, that's enough. That's enough of those. Get those off my screen.

God, I'm thankful. They could have done like a Maryland flag one, even though I think the Maryland flag is so ugly. I think it's overrated as hell. hell but it would be cooler than what they did that's for sure and better than be more overall i think what like they've just still lost the plot right i mean i still commend the diamond bags for the serpiente's jersey being the giant mismatch of crap that it is and still coming out looking as good

as it does i was buying i was getting ready to buy more serpentus gear tonight yeah it honestly does the serpientes does look pretty sweet i mean it's just nice and i'm glad that it's ours and i'm glad that we have one of the best city connect jerseys but i think we might need to bring this whole program to and just let teams have alternate jerseys that they deal with in-house. The city connect thing puts too much pressure on teams to like figure out a way to honor the city or the community that they're a part of and they're not doing a good job of it. So that was what the original point of this is and I feel like it's lost. Again, that's why I think the Serbientz jersey is a perfect representation of that.

It's it's about the fans. It's about the community. What we wanted, what we are. We are a Hispanic community in this town. We are a town that loves our purple and teal. And, you know, we love the eras of this team that we've been able to watch and enjoy in a short amount of time. So great job to the Diamondbacks on their city connectors. He's still being one of the best.

Could you believe Espo put that the original Serpientes as the as one of the five worst jerseys? I contacted HR about that. In the history of Arizona sports. Yeah, no, I actually tried to get, I tried to get Espo fired over that. It was unsuccessful. What even is that take? What even is that opinion? I was looking at the list and I was like,

I sent in the set of uniforms from like the Paul Goldschmidt, Zach Gallen or Zach Granke era. Yeah. And I was like how these jerseys don't make this list. How were the gradient jersey's not worse than the Serpiento jersey? We had scales on the hats. And yet that's not going to make the list, but the OG Serpientes with the with the Sonoran sand is.

That's not wild. Yellow ones, Damon. He didn't even get the crappy pea-colored yellow ones that fanatics put out. He actually grabbed a picture of the real like beige sand ones and that made me even angrier than him just listing it. I just was sick to my stomach seeing that being, seeing the disrespect towards maybe one of the five greatest city connect uniforms that has been made. Look, I will say that the Diamondbacks jerseys have always been flashy and complicated and colorful. So the Serbientes being sand-colored was actually a departure from what they normally do. It was something different. They went with a very classic baseball style, both in the Serpientis wordmark and in the approach to the jersey.

And it worked until it turned into a pea-yellow jersey that I don't understand how the colors changed on it throughout the years. But anyway. I mean, I understand what you're saying there. One other thing that they did with it that I thought was just flat and egregious. And actually cost them me buying the uniform was they took away the state flag patch. Charlie. And I was like, why did, why did you do that?

Put a state flag for the Arizona's flag on everything, on everything. And I'll buy it. But also, like, you can't have it there and then have it on the uniforms and then be like, actually, we don't have it there anymore because, well, the, well, you see, we're fanatics and the patch cost us $2.74 to iron it on. And that, that just hurts our bottom line a little bit too much. We'd prefer all of our things that we sell people actually be the lowest quality possible.

And you're like, oh, cool. Sounds good. Whatever happened to care? I'm waiting for a fanatics package to arrive as we speak. So I'm not, dude, you're waiting for a red dot to show up on my forehead via Michael Rubin after saying some stuff like this. Hey,

live on air. It's a, it's a team Puerto Rico hat. Let's calm down. All right. It was 50% off. But I think I do need to wrap this up before I do get yelled at for giving away free ads, which I've done at least three times on this episode.

So thank you guys so much for sticking around, for being here this late with us. We're almost to tomorrow. And tomorrow we got Zach, Allen and Terrick Scoobble on the mound. So we cannot wait for that. Of course, again, we appreciate you following us and watching the show. You can follow us on social media.

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Appreciate you. Your time is your most valuable commodity. So again, we appreciate you sharing just a little bit of it with us. We will be back tomorrow with another post game show. And then we will have a 12 p.m. show just for our guy, our guy, J. Army Strong on Thursday. Because he can't be here. He can't be here late. So we got to do a 12 p.m. show for him.

But shout out to AZ Catch G. Thank you so much for the Super Chat. I was at Chase Field tonight. Actually, in baseball podcasting, I think we call AZ Catch G's a walkoff. We call when he sends a Super Chat in at the last minute. This is like two outs bottom of the ninth. And he sent a super chat. Derek, this is, by the way, he does this on the AZ Wildcatch show where he waits

until the last second and then sends in a vintage classic Azy Catch G buzzer beater in. And Kevin and I get fired up for it every time. Here it's a walkoff on the PHNXD Backs podcast. What a walkoff from Azy Catch Cheats. Yeah, absolutely. He said, I was at Chase Field tonight before Jose Fernandez walked up the plate and I heard LFG, BTFD. It was cool. I'm not going to say those words.

That's more of a dame. Cats, snakes. Yeah, I guess. Handshake. I don't know. Killer X. Winners. Killer X says, if this is Derek loving me, I hate to see what him hating me looks like.

You were the one exception when I said, I love you all. I just want you to know that, Killer X. But anyway. Killer X, he does, he think, I'll tell you what, he thinks about you more than he thinks about the other people in this chat. Don't tell him, don't tell him that I call him an ethical, uh, what did I call him an ethical hater? Ethical troller. He's an ethical troller.

That's right. Ethical troller. But shout out to all of you guys. Thank you again for swinging by. We'll see you tomorrow on another postgame show. Until then, behave yourselves, Michael Dixon, and remember kids, baseball is fun, but it is so much more fun when you have Jose Fernandez on your goddamn baseball team.