PHNX Arizona Diamondbacks Podcast - POSTGAME: Ketel Marte Hits FIRST CAREER Walk-Off To Clinch Epic Series Win vs. Giants

Episode Date: May 20, 2026

The Arizona Diamondbacks pulled off some late-game magic on Tuesday night, and no moment was bigger than Ketel Marte’s first career walk-off home run. After missing a game-tying blast by just four f...eet in the eighth inning, Marte made sure there was no doubt in the ninth, launching the D-backs to a dramatic 5-3 win over the San Francisco Giants. We break down Marte’s unforgettable moment, Corbin Carroll surviving a scary play after taking a throw to the head before scoring on a near inside-the-park homer, and another strong outing from Ryne Nelson as he delivered his third straight quality start. Plus, we have the latest updates on Corbin Burnes, what this win says about the resilience of the D-backs, and why winning this series could be a massive momentum shift for Arizona. Limited-time offer! Become a Diehard for just $36: https://gophnx.com/intro-offer-youtube WHILE SUNS ARE IN PLAYOFFS Limited-time offer! Become a Diehard for just $32: https://gophnx.com/suns-playoff-offer-youtube JOIN THE SUPPORTERS CLUB ➡️ https://tinyurl.com/yc6km2r4 An ALLCITY Network Production SUBSCRIBE to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/phnx_youtube ALL THINGS PHNX: http://linktr.ee/phnxsports MERCH https://store.allcitynetwork.com/collections/phnx-locker ALLCITY Network, Inc. aka PHNX and PHNX Sports is in no way affiliated with or endorsed by the City of Phoenix PHNX Events: Get your tickets to PHNX events and takeovers here: https://gophnx.com/events/ ALLCITY — including us here at PHNX — is teaming up with Big Brothers Big Sisters of America for an exciting three-year partnership. To learn more, visit https://www.bbbs.org/allcity/ Branded Bills: Use code BBPHNX at https://www.brandedbills.com/ for 15% off your first order! Husband & Wife Law Team: If you’ve had a serious injury, Call The Husband & Wife Law Team first at 602-783-8841 or visit https://husbandandwifelawteam.com/?utm_source=allcity-padcasts&utm_medium=digital-phx&utm_campaign=allcityShowNotes bet365: https://www.bet365.com/hub/en-us/app-hero-banner-1?utm_source=affiliate&utm_campaign=usapp&utm_medium=affiliate&affiliate=365_03485317 Use the code PHNX365 to sign up, deposit $10 and bet $5 to get $150 in bonus bets! Disclaimer: Must be 21+ and physically located in AZ.  If you or someone you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call 1-800-NEXT-STEP, text NEXTSTEP to 53342 or visit https://problemgambling.az.gov/ Gametime: Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code PHNX for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Shady Rays: Head to https://shadyrays.com and use code: PHNX for 40% 2+ pairs of off polarized sunglasses. Try for yourself the shades rated 5 stars by over 300,000 people. Circle K: Join Inner Circle for free by downloading the Circle K app today! Head to https://www.circlek.com/store-locator to find Circle Ks near you! When you shop through links in the description, we may earn affiliate commissions. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On a night where we thought the Diamondbacks offense was going to disappear once again, Cotell Marte delivered the first walk-off homer of his career, except for one time in softball in Dominican. And the Diamondbacks beat the Giants by a score of five to three. We're going live right now, and we're turning on the cactus light. Let's go! H&X Diamondbacks podcast, Circle K. I was going to start this show, tweaking on my, twerking on my chair.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Damon, welcome in to another edition of the PHNX Diamondbacks postcase. show. My name is Derek Montaia. Occasionally known as your mayor of PHNX. We got your dog on the ones and twos of my dog, your dog, everyone's dog, Hurtig. Coutel Marte's dog, Damon Dog, on the ones and twos tonight. It's thrilled to have you guys here.
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Starting point is 00:01:29 Watch games like this one. Terms do apply. What a win. Diamondbacks win this one over the San Francisco Giants on a Cotel Marte walkoff home run in the ninth inning. The D-backs win by a score of five to three on the walk-off, and they improve to 24 and 23 on the season. Damon, do I even need to tell you what to do next? You tell me, Derek. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Do you tell you? It might have taken me about a one and a half more seconds than you would have probably like that there. David's got a lot of stuff he's trying to get done. By golly, if I didn't get the job done at the end of the day, just like the Diamondbacks. Hell yeah. Was it pretty, Derek? No.
Starting point is 00:02:21 But it didn't need to be. You just needed the result at the end of the day. And Jerry Perdomo went out Mount 500. That's it. Before we were at a final, you got it in, just like the diamond. backs did tonight. What a game. What a win. Cotell Marte recorded his first career walkoff Homer and fifth career walkoff plate appearance. He has four hits. He is one of two players in MLB this season with multiple walkoffs, though this is the first time he's ever done it with a home run. Michael
Starting point is 00:02:53 Bush for the Chicago Cubs is the other one. But the story of this game is that Ryan Nelson gave the Diamondbacks another quality start. And Cotel Marte, of course, hit the biggest. home run of the season to win this one by a score of five to three. Dback starters have now recorded 10, 10 quality starts in their last 14 outings dating back to hashtag the meeting. Okay? And you can say what you want about hashtag the meeting, but the meeting set this pitching staff straight.
Starting point is 00:03:26 And in that span, they have allowed two runs or fewer in nine of those games. wild. Nellie would add to that total tonight with a quality start in this one going seven innings and giving up three earned runs. And those earned runs all came early when it felt like the Giants were jumping all over Nellie's fastball because it's Brian Nelson and you know he's going to throw the fastball. But he did an impressive job of kind of pivoting when he didn't have his best stuff and when the Giants had a good game plan against him. And he somehow just became super efficient in this game. A game where in the second inning it looked like there was a good chance that this was going to be a very rough outing for Ryan Nelson. But instead, it ended up
Starting point is 00:04:06 looking more like a very rough outing for the offense, at least for nine innings of this game. And it started off, I guess, with a serendipitous kind of play, if you want to call it that. Corbyn Carroll would probably disagree with you when it came to that. But in the first inning with one out, Corbyn Carroll would hit a ball to left center field that looked like it was going to be a triple and looked like Corbyn was going to be in there. He really turned on the, you know, the after burners around second base, slid in there, but as he was sliding into third base, he was hit in the head
Starting point is 00:04:36 with the throw, with the relay throw, and it looked like it got him pretty hard. And again, it wasn't a pretty situation, much like Damon described about this whole game, but it bounced towards the debacks dugout, and Corbyn heard J.R.
Starting point is 00:04:53 House yelled, go, go, go, and Corbyn got up and went, even though he was holding his head the whole time and might have been bleeding. Corbyn did go through all the tests and concussion protocol and everything like that. And he told us after the game that he was fine. But again, he would stay in the game and prove to be a tough badass. The tough badass that Corbyn Carroll is. And that would be his league leading sixth triple, 49th in his career, there in the first inning. And he is just four triple shy of setting the
Starting point is 00:05:24 club record and passing Stephen Drew. Not only is he going to do that, but Corbyn Carroll is probably going to double up the total of triples hit by the player with the most triples in franchise history when all is sudden done. But since 2023, Corbyn Carroll's 15 first inning triples are the most in Major League Baseball ahead of everybody who aren't even close. The next closest player are three guys, Bobby Wood Jr., Ellie Dela Cruz, and Xavier Edwards, very fast gentlemen as well. All of those guys have five first inning triples. Corbyn Carroll has 15, 15 since 2023. It's impressive.
Starting point is 00:06:02 But what wasn't impressive was what the offense did after that. The Diamondback's offense then spent the next essentially seven innings dwindling and mediocrity, essentially. They were stifled by what the Giants had going on tonight. Nolan Aronado did hit a double in the first inning after Corbyn Carroll scored. So had Corbyn not scored on the triple, he would have scored on Aranato's double. But Lordus then added a single in the second inning and then got out on a fielder's choice. Outside of that, the offense went down quietly in every inning until the fifth. Gurriel would single again.
Starting point is 00:06:39 In the fifth inning, Moreno would hit into the double play. And that right there, that seemed to be the cadence of the Diamondbacks night. Before we changed everything in this rundown, the story was going to be about how sometimes in games, nothing goes your way, which is kind of hilarious, considering the way that this one turned out to be. But when you were watching this game and you saw the rallies that the Diamondbacks
Starting point is 00:07:02 were attending to put together, it's like every time they got a base runner, they hit into a double play. Every time they had multiple base runners or the bases loaded, they hit into an inning double play, an inning ending double play. It was frustrating to watch.
Starting point is 00:07:14 You had ADC singling there in the fifth, but then Walshman strikes out swinging to end the inning. That was pretty much their best chance of scoring before getting to the seventh. And then in the seventh inning, the Diamondbacks finally looked like they had something cooking to start the inning. You had Nolan Arnado hitting his second double of the night, a lead-off double. Ildemar Vargas would single and move him over to third.
Starting point is 00:07:33 So you had runners on the corners. And Lordus would strike out swinging on one of the worst pitches I've ever seen a human being strike out on in my entire life. So, Derek, I was telling you that I had a snafu with a delay in regards to when I was watching the game and what was actually happening. Yes. I tweeted, wow, what a bad swing from Lerner, Lordus about 20 minutes after Lordus' horrific swing, because I was so upset about it.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Damon was a little behind on his feed because he was watching both the Eastern Conference Finals and the NBA as well as this game. So things got a little complicated for him, but. But what a bad swing, man. It was such a bad. It was. And honestly, Lourdes has been good lately defensively. He was very good defensively in Colorado.
Starting point is 00:08:17 I mean, he still looks like a baby giraffe to me. What a catch, though. Now he has baby giraffe that's got mad skills. That's what he is now, right? like he's he's just been very athletic he looks faster you know he looks healthy he looks strong i mean lordis has been doing the thing and i mean even tonight it kind of sucked because lordis it felt like lordis would come up when nobody was at the plate and and get on base you know single but the minute that you felt like you know guys were there available for him you know he it's like that
Starting point is 00:08:46 that trying to do too much you know trying trying to do too much putting too much pressure on yourself but after Lord is struck out, Moreno would walk to load the bases in the seventh inning, and then Adrian Del Castillo hits into the inning-ending double play with no run scoring. And then it's the same thing in the eighth inning. You got Ryan Walschmidt walking to lead off the inning. Ketel Marte comes up to the plate with Walshmidt on, and he missed a game-tying home run that literally fell three feet short of leaving the yard in center field. He hit it to the 414 mark. He hit at 411 feet. four more feet and that ball goes out of the ballpark and the game is tied then. Marte would not miss in his next opportunity, as we all now know.
Starting point is 00:09:32 But Waldie would advance the second on a wild pitch and then Corby and Carroll would walk to put two on with one out for Pardomo. And then Pardomo had just one of the most exciting bat at Bats of the night. It resulted in a walk, but during the at bat, Perdomo, as you may remember if you were watching this game, he would challenge a strike call that was reversed to a ball. Then on a on a ball call, the Giants catcher Daniel Susack, who was that guy tonight, you know, that guy tonight. He would challenge a ball and he would be wrong.
Starting point is 00:10:04 And then Perdomo would walk to load the bases. So you had bases loaded once again with one out, just like in the seventh inning. And Nolan Aronado this time, the guy you would want up, I think, in that moment, besides maybe Cattel hits into the inning-ending double play. with bases loaded, no runs would score. And it's been frustrating.
Starting point is 00:10:26 I also have noticed a lot of people becoming frustrating with Adrian Del Castillo, and I do kind of agree. Del Castillo did have a very important single there in the ninth inning. So, like, this was, once again, this was all stuff I wrote in here before we won the game. But I think it is fair to talk about the fact that Adrian Del Castillo as our DH is just not a viable option. I mean, he did single on the fifth. He singled in the ninth, but he struck out on a hit and run play in the second inning that got Gabby caught stealing essentially because he was supposed to make contact on the ball. That was a strike him out, throw him out double play. Then he hits into an actual
Starting point is 00:11:05 double play in the seventh inning. That was kind of a rally killing double play. And his numbers just have not been good this season. And again, you get down to that spot. You know, they moved Dell down. But do you really want your DH hitting eighth? it's probably not a good thing if your D.H is hitting eighth. And Del did have a two-for-four night tonight, but he's still hitting 198 with a 576 OPS, and that just still feels like a failure as far as your designated hitter is concerned.
Starting point is 00:11:36 I know that the Diamondbacks are short on options right now, and I know right now the other important thing is that James McCann was put on the 10-day IL prior to today's game, and Tori told us that it's going to be four to six weeks, most likely. Not 10 days for James McCann to. a return. So they called up Aramis Garcia and now ADC truly is needed because they need him as a backup catcher despite the fact that he has not caught very much. He's only caught seven games this season where he started and played essentially the whole game. The other outings were games where
Starting point is 00:12:08 he came into the game late and pinch hit and then stayed in as a catcher. And then every other game that he's been in the season, he has been the designated hitter. And that feels like one of the big problems with their offense right now. Damon was so right about this during the offseason. I think he was even saying this last season. You know, you can't have your first base and your third base and your DH all not giving you anything. Luckily, Nolan Aronado has really changed, you know, turned things around. And with Ilamar Vargas at first, you're now getting something instead of what you were getting out of Carlos Santana. But it still doesn't feel great. It still doesn't feel great to have these as your power options. However, you know, overall, when you look at the way
Starting point is 00:12:52 this Diamondbacks offense was able to put together some rallies tonight, like, they should have scored runs before they got to the ninth inning. This should not have been this kind of game late, at least looking from the outside in. It felt like the Diamondbacks were the better team in this game, despite what ended up happening in the ninth inning. And then they proved it there in the bottom of the ninth. But that ninth inning would be, again, very exciting. And it started off with Ildomar Vargas, getting on with a lead off single. No surprise there that Vargas is once again at the center of the Diamondbacks offensive rallies
Starting point is 00:13:26 or anything they're doing. Vargas has kind of taken on the role that Perdomo played last year. And I know that Perdomo was more of our risk king and he was more of the guy that was driving in the runs and always kind of has been. But like Vargas, again, he right now feels like that special player that really has taken a step up.
Starting point is 00:13:44 And now in so many of these wins and even the losses, has just played a pivotal role in the offense trying to get things going. He did that once again tonight. And then the Diamondbacks with two outs had the aforementioned ADC come up to the plate with the game on the line. And he singled an RBI single to bring in Vargas and cut the lead to three to two. So maybe I should have deleted that section out of my rundown. But again, me and Damon don't delete anything.
Starting point is 00:14:10 We're going to talk a lot about the stuff we were doing before this game turned in the ninth inning. I think Damon's even going to show you. thumbnail. That's, that's special. That's special. He doesn't usually show that to just anybody when he makes a thumbnail that is supposed to go in the trash. But again, here with two outs, ADC comes to the plate. He gets that RBI single. And then in probably the oddest moment of this game, Waldschmidt would be awarded first base on catchers interference. Once again, Daniel Susack, who, uh, Sussex, Sussex, I don't know. How do you say, Sussex? Shusack, right? Okay. It doesn't feel right? It feels like I'm mispronouncing it
Starting point is 00:14:48 and Sussex feels better but what do I know? What do I know about people? Arizona Wildcats legend. Yeah, I know. I knew you would know that. And also that was the talk of the press box. People were sick of him. But he would play a big role
Starting point is 00:15:04 in this win because he would interfere allegedly according to home plate umpire Bill Miller with Walt Schmidt swinging his bat. So you got catchers interference awarding Waldschmidt first base. But then they reviewed it.
Starting point is 00:15:23 And I mean, we won, so I can be honest. I didn't see no damn catcher's interference. And apparently nobody else did either. But since they couldn't confirm or deny it, they had to uphold the ruling on the field. So essentially, New York couldn't make the call and what Bill Miller called stood. And that would just play such a crucial part in this victory, honestly.
Starting point is 00:15:46 no offense to Ryan Walschmidt, but you just don't feel nearly as confident about Waldy being up there in this big moment as you do about Cattel. And again, Walshmet might have singled, might have gotten on base, might have done whatever, right? Like, I'm not going to act like he doesn't get on in an alternate universe somehow, some way. But you could say that that catcher's interference call was huge. And if we were a Giants podcast, we would probably be screaming a lot about it right now in this moment. But we're not that. We're a Diamondbacks podcast. and we're happy it happened.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Thank you, Bill Miller. We appreciate you, even though you had yourself a terrible night behind the plate. And you know you did. I know you did. Damon know you did. This little dog knows you did.
Starting point is 00:16:25 So don't even try to argue about it. But again, we got two outs. We got two on and we got Cotel Marte stepping up to the plate. And the giants go to arguably their best reliever, but a lefty, allowing Cotel Marte to go to his power side.
Starting point is 00:16:44 And boy, Couldal light up about that? I think we got, Katel was hungry. Here's Ketel talking about that moment. Are you surprised they went to the lefty there? Surpentio, he got to get with a surdo?
Starting point is 00:17:01 Yes. Do you get excited when you see a left guy over? I always am I, I mean, I'm, I'm sure I'm, That's the most important. And when when they put them in the sull do I, that's my food. I have a lot of confidence in myself. Once they brought the left team,
Starting point is 00:17:19 that's just kind of like my appetite. Kattel was hungry and Kattel ate. Ketel eight. Sixth of the season, sixth home run of the season, 391 feet to left field, 101.1.4 mile per hour exit Velo. And it's a game winner, baby. It is a game winner.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Ketel, of course, he's had a lot of struggles. this year. In fact, I was kind of surprised that this was Cattell's first home run winner of his career. Right? Like, I've thrown, personally, a lot of trash
Starting point is 00:17:56 on Paul Goldchpitz's name for not being clutch. And I guarantee that man has way more than just one walk-off career home run as a diamond back. So being a big Marte stand over here, surprise, shock, maybe have some apologies myself to me. I will say, Catelle does have some walkoffs that are not home runs, including one in the NLCS. That's about as clutch as it gets. He was the MVP of that NLCS because of how well he was playing.
Starting point is 00:18:23 So, you know, Cotel does have his clutch moments. He just doesn't have the walkoff home run. Right. And now he adds that to the Rolodex tonight, which is a difficult thing to do. It's beautiful. Not everyone's like ADC and does it in their first game. Very first home run hit in their major league career. I mean, maybe that's why.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Once again, Alex Thomas Platten the flag, ADC hit the home run, a walkoff home run in his first home run. Like, these are why you love these guys. And these are why so many people, including within the organization, have a hard time moving past them when they're struggling. And honestly, Cattel's had his share of struggles too. But this was Cotel's second career walkoff home run because he did have another one. Damon, would you mind playing the footage of Cotel's other home run? First, you know, walk off home run in the big leagues. Had you hit one before in another level?
Starting point is 00:19:15 In another level, Liga menores, a one run for the only time when I play softball in Dominica. You could never take a moment where I get to smile and laugh with Cotel Marte away from me. Much like Damon being told by his hero, Luis Gonzalez,
Starting point is 00:19:36 that he literally is the Cal Ripkin of P.HNX. I am empowered. My soul is filled up by laughing along with Cotel Marte. Derek's recording content all night long just because of Cattel. Oh, yeah. No, I mean, this is my 20-hour day. I did a whole Instagram thing about it. This is a very long day for me.
Starting point is 00:19:55 But I was uplifted. I was given energy. More energy than this pre-workout supplement I'm abusing at 10 o'clock at night is given me. And that's all thanks to Cattel. But like I said, he has had his fair share of. struggles this year. And I mean, we've talked about it so much. We have talked about Cattel essentially hitting the hell out of the ball and just not getting it to go where it needs to go, including in the eighth inning, where he hits a game tying home run essentially
Starting point is 00:20:24 100 or, excuse me, 411 feet instead of 414 feet, right? And that's just kind of been how Cattel's season has gone. And Tori has talked about it. Cattel's talked about it. Um, Catell doesn't give a damn about your expected stats. They're nice and all. They might like keep you warm at night, but they don't keep Cotel warm at night. And, uh,
Starting point is 00:20:50 he discussed his kind of the unluckiness. He's a, he's gone through at the plate this year with his, you know, batted ball metrics all being ridiculously high, but still having, you know, not the best actual real life stats.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Here's what Cotel had to say about that. Uh, I'm a little difficult, you know, because I always, at this time of the game, I have good numbers, but he's always giving up the ball. He always makes
Starting point is 00:21:18 anemone, and me says that I'm playing well, that my defense is very well, and I'm going to be better. It's a little difficult for you because usually at this point, at this stage in the season, I have really good numbers, but Tori's always told me, you know, you're making good contact, don't be so hard on yourself, you're playing good defense.
Starting point is 00:21:36 So that's, that's mainly the way he's able to support me. And Ketel and Tori, they've kind of had this thing going on. Like, it's hard because Tori's idea here is he literally doesn't want Ketel to do anything different. When you're hitting the ball, the ball 104 miles per hour, you just got to keep doing it. But the frustration seeps into the player, right? And the frustration is what then makes the player start doing things differently,
Starting point is 00:22:00 even though you told them not to do anything different because they want different results. And that's really what this has been about. Tori has been very, very supportive of Catelle, and he knows that with these expected stats and numbers Cotel is putting up, eventually something like this was going to happen. He was going to break through, he was going to have that big game. Hopefully this opens up the floodgates and we can see Cotel finally start to put up those actual numbers that he's wanted to. But here is Cotel talking about this season so far and his struggles. It's hard
Starting point is 00:22:30 It's a very difficult for me Yeah, I'm a A man who's a And the case Not so I'm going So I'm not going to So I'm confident
Starting point is 00:22:38 In God And I'm always Here to work To try to It's hard Someone like myself That works very hard The results
Starting point is 00:22:44 Haven't been coming But nevertheless Come here Trust in God To be able Give my best performance And Ketel gave a very emotional
Starting point is 00:22:52 Postgame speech With On the field, right? With Todd and I didn't get a chance to see that, but Damon brought it up to me and said, like, you can tell he just, he just wants to win. He just wants to win for his teammates,
Starting point is 00:23:04 and he just wants to help this team. And, you know, again, going 0 for five doesn't help your team, even if you're hitting the ball 110 miles per hour on every out. Just got to make sure the chain's popping. Yeah, no, I know, I know. My first on camera appearance around the show. You got too hard now.
Starting point is 00:23:21 This is getting good. Well, the typical usual. And then, of course, my present from my, my best friend of the. entire world, Derek. But yeah, the post game, it got me a little bit emotional, Derek, because, and not in the sense of like, I'm going to shed a tear, but more in the sense of like, I'm fired up, this is my guy, like, I'm ready to run through a brick wall because Kattel's standing up there and he says,
Starting point is 00:23:43 like, six times to Todd Walsh and to Brandon Webb, like, I'm about winning. I'm about, I'm about my teammates. I'm about making my team better in putting wins in the win column. And you can tell that he doesn't feel like maybe he's done that to the level that he expects of himself so far this season. But not only that, he has taken some arrows in terms of what people have talked about him as a teammate and even media members. I wouldn't go as far to say this podcast because I think we're very pro-Katel and have been all offseason. But there are other people in this media market who have been a little bit anti-Katel and have been very like point the finger at this guy who is a bad leader and shows all this. these bad examples to the young players and dogs it all the time and takes rest days when
Starting point is 00:24:31 the team needs him most and like and so he goes out there he gets this win today uh you know he almost puts the ball over the fence to tie the game earlier and then he puts the ball over the fence to win the game i think he's understandably like you know what like i i take a lot of shots but this is what i care about right here is winning baseball games for this team firing up this fan base and we're lucky to have Catelle, man. He's a special player. It's been a bad start. But I think every single one of us
Starting point is 00:25:01 has the full confidence in Cotel Marte that he is going to put in an all-star caliber season when it's all said and done by the end of the year. He's just too good of a hitter to be held down for a whole year. I completely agree. And I think that's the thing. Right? You, you,
Starting point is 00:25:16 especially with the expected stats. If Catell wasn't hitting the hell out of the ball right now, it might be a little easier to have concerns and worry, right? But you don't because you know that he's just kind of unlucky. However, that unluckiness that a player experiences can carry over for a considerable portion of the season. Sometimes being unlucky is actually a thing and you're just stuck that way.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Yeah. Right? Like ball trajectory, where you're hitting it, I mean, obviously a lot of that plays into it too. I'm not going to say like, oh, Ketel's completely free of blame and this is just like all the bad luck in the world. Like you're hitting the ball in areas of the ballpark that even if you are hitting it hard, it's going right to a defender. And it's not like it's defenders making incredible plays.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Kattel is just hitting it literally right at them. But. Yeah. And it feels like he's just hitting the hell out of the baseball like it has been for a while now and just I know we've all seen it. Like this isn't rocket science, but like that's bound to work itself out eventually. You feel like it is. And the team does too, right? Yeah. But I get, Damon, I can't go on without with ignoring Vousen 602's comment because he said, y'all wanted him traded.
Starting point is 00:26:31 And I know he's not talking to this podcast. Absolutely not. There is no way you're talking to this podcast. You're new around here. So I know you weren't here during the off season, but I can, I can tell you this much. There are episodes that you can go back and watch. And those episodes will tell you exactly how we felt. We're on camera.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Yeah. saying the opposite. Like it's live, but it's actually, like, recorded and lives forever on the internet. Trust me, I know. I've been told that many times by a lot of managers around here. But Kattel did discuss his relationship with Tori and how supportive Tori's been. Here is what Ketel had to say about what's been going on with him and Tori and how Tori's been. No, fear, from Tori, I have, we have to have been.
Starting point is 00:27:15 I really, that I have given all the confidence, always me has been in these moments so it's so so it's a difficult for me, for my career
Starting point is 00:27:21 and I really that I, Tori and I am very grateful and I'm being very grateful with him. Tori and I have a
Starting point is 00:27:28 great relationship almost like father and son great communication. It's very special that he's always trusted in me in this difficult
Starting point is 00:27:34 moment in my career but always trustworthy in him it's all love man and again this is the reason why I know a lot of people are critical of Tori
Starting point is 00:27:43 and I know a lot of people blame him for the bad things that happened with this team he's the manager, he gets the blame. That's what happens when you wear that hat, right? But I will say the reason why this organization still feels like Tori is the right man for the job is because of the relationships that he has with players and because they feel like he is
Starting point is 00:28:02 the kind of guy that can pull the most out of certain, especially young players, right? Tori has just been a good manager for young players to come up and land under and somehow find success relatively quickly, right? So, but at the same time, like I said, that's not going to make an impact for most of you here. Most of you are still going to, most of you are still going to want that band terminated. But regardless of how you feel tonight, we want. Tonight, Diamondbacks beat the Giants five to three. Catelle Marte hits his first walk-off home run of his career.
Starting point is 00:28:35 And I don't care about the damn stats. You know who our King Snake is. I don't, I do we have to put stats on there, Damon? I mean, this should just be three pictures of Cotel Marte. all next to each other. Just different images of them. Smiling, looking beautiful, rounding the bases as Damon did.
Starting point is 00:28:52 One for five tonight, sure. But still a lot of hard hit balls tonight by Kutel. Could have had two bombs. He should have had two bombs. In fact, yes, that's a great point, Damon. 24 of 30 ballparks. He has two home runs. Maybe that's not true.
Starting point is 00:29:08 I don't know about the second one. I'm assuming it's 30 out of 30 based off how hard he hit that baseball. So three of the five baseballs he hit tonight. were hard hit baseballs. You had a ground out that was 96.2 miles per hour off the bat. A flyout, as we talked about, that fell four feet short of going for a home run. That one was 104.6 miles per hour off the bat. And then his actual home run 101.4 miles per hour off the bat.
Starting point is 00:29:33 That one dings in 30 of 30 stadiums. The flyout would have been a home run in 24 of 30 stadiums. So that's where we're at. But we're going to take a quick break. We have so much more to talk about, including more. from Tori. We're going to talk about Ryan Nelson's great night. This was a complete win overall because the dimebacks come out on top and somehow they now take this series over the Giants. We're going to talk about that too. All this on the other side of this break. Don't you go anywhere. You're watching the P.Henx Diamondback Show. Well, I've said this time and time again, but I hope none of you ever have to contact the husband and wife law team. But if you are ever in an accident or serious injury, you've got to know that the lawyer you hire does matter. Of course, if you want to hire, an attorney that's focused on your best outcome, not how much money the firm makes. That's the husband and wife law team.
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Starting point is 00:32:49 was because of Ryan Nelson having a fairly incredible outing, considering the way things started to go for him in the second inning. And that's the reason why I say this, because he gave up two solo home runs, he gave up another hit. Like, it looked like Nelly wasn't going to be getting out of that second inning, and it looked like we might be in for a long night as far as our pitching staff is concerned.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Instead, Nellie adapted. He changed his game up, and he found a way to be very effective and efficient throughout this outing. And honestly, even though he went seven innings, he was at 88 pitches and probably could have come out for the eighth inning. Diamondbacks didn't need him to, though. Bullpen did an excellent job of holding this game and giving this team a chance to win in the ninth inning by not letting it get any more out of control. But I'm still confused by Ryan Nelson's outing because, again, it seemed bad at times, but the results would suggest otherwise. You got a one, two, three inning to start the game.
Starting point is 00:33:46 but then in the second, like I said, it felt like the wheels completely fell off for Nellie, gave up a lead-off home run to Raphael Devers. That was his sixth of the year, 441 feet to center field and 111 miles per hour off the bat. Then immediately gave up a back-to-back home run this time to Willie Adomas, his fifth of the year. That one went, kind of sneaked up the line a little bit, 359 feet down the third base line, had 108.1 mile per hour exit below. But it seemed like the Giants were just jumping all over Nellie's fast. fastball is foreseen early. And of course, because you know Ryan Nelson is going to throw his
Starting point is 00:34:22 fastball somewhere between 50 to 70% of the outing. If you can, if you can just guess fastball, there's a good chance you're going to get a fastball. However, Ryan Nelson's fastball is so goddamn good that I could tell you it's coming. I could tell you what quadrant of the strike zone he's going throw it and you still probably are going to have a hard time hitting it. You gave up a single to Matt Chapman there in the second inning before finally getting his first out. And that's what I mean. It was like three consecutive hits where it just felt like, oh my God, he can't get an out. And then even though he got an out, Chapman would score on the Daniel Susack double that gave the Giants of three to one lead. So that didn't make us feel any better about Nellie's night. But somehow he gets out of the inning without scoring or giving up any more runs and then just got super efficient with his pitches and kind of cruised.
Starting point is 00:35:09 He didn't, it wasn't clean. You know, it wasn't a great outing. He had been. base runners, like basically allowed one base runner every inning by either a hit or a walk. But that was it. Like he still, he kept the, the amount of base runners limited. He kept them, you know, again, even when he did give up a hit or a walk, he was able to just dial it in and get outs. Mostly because the Giants were kind of free swinging. I think that's what Nellie had to say after the game. We're going to have more here from Ryan Nelson, of course. But it was just a good outing overall. And, you know, I know that the, I know we've talked about Tori and, you know, hashtag the meeting, right?
Starting point is 00:35:50 But I had to ask him about it again tonight. I had to. Because again, the Diamondbacks now, I said it earlier. Ten, Damon, ten quality starts in their last 14 outings. That's insane compared to what we were getting through March and April. I think maybe, maybe. I think maybe. we had one or two outings where a starting pitcher went longer than six innings or lasted at least six innings. Instead, it feels like everybody's doing that. Everybody's being efficient. Their strikeout numbers aren't crazy because they're pitching more to contact than they're pitching for numbers, I guess you could say, but it's worked. And so far, this has been impressive. 10 quality starts in 14 outings since May 5th, and they've allowed two runs or fewer again in nine of those starts.
Starting point is 00:36:39 here's Tori talking about you know how the starting pitchers answered his challenge hashtag the meeting the meeting these these pictures are fantastic they're they're smart they're great self-evaluators
Starting point is 00:36:55 and they go out there to compete to win baseball games all I did was maybe create a little awareness and just issue a challenge to them like you guys you guys are better than this and we all know it it's just one of those little things that we're going through right now but let's lock it in and carry the load because that's what great starting pitchers do for great baseball teams.
Starting point is 00:37:14 And I challenged them by saying I'm challenging you guys to be better and they accepted that. So it wasn't earth-shattering. I just created an awareness, talked to them, got them together, and they certainly responded and deserve all the credit. Well, and to be fair, the offense has also responded since Tori had a meeting with them as well, right? Like, still not super consistent. Tonight was an example of that. but you just feel like the Diamondbacks are starting to put together more outings where they're getting five runs or more rather than less games like that recently. So it does feel like this offense is starting to find its footing and find some consistency.
Starting point is 00:37:53 However, the pitching, I mean, credit to the pitching staff and what they've done. Credit to the bullpen, credit to the starters. Everybody has been outstanding. Zach Gallen was great in yesterday's win, right? And again, that's another guy that we said, like, we implore on Monday's episode, please, Zach, don't make it easy on them. Make the decision on who goes out of the starting rotation, most difficult decision this organization's ever had to make. And there is a time for Gallen to still do that before Corbyn Burns returns. But we do have an update on Corbyn Burns, and it's a very exciting one because that man can't wait, cannot wait to pitch for this team.
Starting point is 00:38:31 But back to Nelly, I think the most impressive part about his outing tonight was the 7th, inning, Damon, where he came out after giving up those little base runners here, there throughout kind of his whole outing. And he once again got another one, two, three inning like he did in the first, but this time in the seventh inning and was sitting at 88 pitches when he did it. So a lot of credit to Nelly for, again, not having his best stuff tonight, but still finding a way to go to his other stuff. His slider kind of became a very effective pitch for him.
Starting point is 00:39:01 He's still using that cutter. His four seam usage, 51%. you're you that's a that's a low night for nellie you can tell maybe he dialed it back a little bit because maybe his four seam wasn't being effective early on um but the slider the cutter the curveball those got all used sparingly but enough to be very effective 24% slider usage 13% cutter if you want to call it that um it's actually a two seam fastball but whatever 13% cutter 9% curveball 3% sinker uh and again you can see like there's There's a lot of red here because Nelly will never not throw the majority of his pitches as his forcing fastball.
Starting point is 00:39:42 It's just too good. But again, the slider, that became a very effective out pitch for him at times in this outing and the cutter too. Because the cutter just kind of has a little, it looks so much like the four seam, but just has different movement, right? So this get me, maybe I'm crazy here. And sometimes I'm a little bit off on this kind of stuff. Yeah. So tell me if I am, Derek. but feels like a lot more usage of alternate pitches outside of fastballs from Ryan Nelson
Starting point is 00:40:11 as compared to a typical Ryan Nelson game where you see a lot more of the bright red fastballs, I feel like. You'd probably get like two other pitches at around 15% maybe on a Ryan Nelson, you know, outing instead of a slider at 24% and a cutter at 13. I mean, I'm seeing a lot of different colors. Yeah, no, you're right. And like you said, yeah, he threw five different pitches. you threw the sinker like two times.
Starting point is 00:40:35 So it is what it is, right? But you're absolutely right. And the reason why was because he had to adapt. Now, when you talk about a pitcher maturing and getting better and becoming an effective, consistent starting pitcher that you feel like is going to give you a good outing every time you go out there, that is what they can do. They can adapt and they can find a way when their best pitch is not their best pitch on any given night to still win you a ball game.
Starting point is 00:41:03 And I felt like that's what Nellie did after that second inning where it wasn't taking them more than two pitches to jump all over him and hit the hell out of the baseball. So again, hats off to Nellie for doing that. For not only just what he did tonight, but the way Nellie has turned his season around, there was a time where we were comparing him to Brandon fought and saying, well, it's going to be one of these two guys, right?
Starting point is 00:41:27 Remember that? and since then Brandon he's gone in the opposite direction. Brandon Fott has become a liability for this team and I still don't know how he fits in to at least the 2026 team with the way he's been struggling out of the bullpen. But Ryan Nelson just tossed his third consecutive quality start.
Starting point is 00:41:45 He threw seven innings and two of those starts for just the second time in his career. And again, because Ryan Nelson usually gets a lot of, throws his fastball a lot and he gets a lot of strikeouts, he's usually not going very deep into baseball games in his career. historically. But seven innings pitched tonight with three earned runs. You got seven innings pitched on May 13th with three earned runs against the Texas Rangers and then six and
Starting point is 00:42:07 two-thirds innings with one earned run versus the Mets back on May 8th. The difference between tonight's game and those two other starts is the Diamondbacks lost those two games. Tonight, tonight they won and they won because Cotell Marte delivered an incredible walk-off, you know, home run. But, you know, it is what it is. Cotel-Marty. incredible. The bullpen, though, quietly, just getting the job. Nails. Yeah. Nails. Just just, just right. Kevin Ginkle going out there walking one guy, but striking out three in his inning of work. Certified G. Bonified stud. Kevin Ginkle is more back than he's ever been. And we are more back than we've ever been. But every time I start to say that about Kevin Ginkle,
Starting point is 00:42:52 things start to fall off of a cliff. So I'm going to not say anything. I think that the piece is this bullpen that are good are pretty damn good. You know, we weeded out the bad, the bad guys, the bad, the bad ombrays, if you will, Derek. We kicked him out. We said, get to the side. We're got to go. We're good. And, you know, Joe Ross, he's gone.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Taylor Rashi, who's been good in Reno, I will say. Not up right now, but like I feel like Johnny Lausagna. It's all about Johnny Lausanne. It's all about Kevin Ginkle. It's all about, dare I say, Paul C. wall. No. Season. No.
Starting point is 00:43:30 I mean, it's, it's been a great bullpen, you know, for the last month, I will say, like in particular. The, the, the recent stretch, the bullpen has been damn near flawless. They haven't really lost you a whole lot of games and, and knock on wood. But it feels great right now. If this offense can get firing, I mean, it feels like the diamondbacks are, or, you know, determined to be a playoff team almost. Damon, I have a very exciting development for you.
Starting point is 00:43:56 and that is a live this is a live development the diamondbacks bullpen has a 4.36 eRA not bad 19th 19th in baseball 19th 19th 19th bullpen 19th to a debacks fan might as well look like a top 5 bullpen to it to the rest of MLB fans like that's that is incredible stuff it really is considering where it was at and and parade when the diamond back starting pitching er a 4.38 20th in baseball. Oh, and Taylor Clark, too. Jay makes the point. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Absolutely. For sure. I mean, we were just addressing guys tonight. Oh, and Maria. I mean, really, like, you think about it, Ginkle, Loisaga, Taylor Clark, Mario, Paul Seawald. Is this bullpen actually just kind of good? I mean, man, look, we're going, we found out today that AJ Puck was facing a lot of batters today. Brandon Garcia is good.
Starting point is 00:44:58 You forgot Brandon Garcia. And so now we're going to have two lefties? Are we going to have two lefties, Damon? I don't even know what to think about that. Mike Hazen statue per Abner. The bullpen is top 20. When are we building the Mike Hazen statue? Yeah, no, for sure.
Starting point is 00:45:14 But yeah, there's just solid pitching, man. And I mean, we've said it. We've said it time and time again. I think that's what was probably frustrating for you and I. We've been like, please give us decent starting pitching and decent bullpen. and we'll win baseball games because our offense is that good. No, it's not. And it hasn't been.
Starting point is 00:45:31 You know what I mean? But you think they could be a lot better, though. You do think they can be a lot better because they're still winning a lot of baseball games when Cotel Marte was hitting 209, right? Like that's crazy. You had obviously Corby and Carroll being what he is, but Perdomo has taken a step back. Marte is taking a step back. There's just like a lot of guys on this team that aren't giving you what you thought you were going to get out of them.
Starting point is 00:45:54 But like you said earlier about Marquis. you still feel confident that these guys are all going to put it together. So you're like, can the pitching just not reverse? Just keep doing your thing. I know it's, I know it's going to be a struggle for a little bit. I know there's going to be some outings where you probably deserve a win and don't get it. But don't worry.
Starting point is 00:46:12 You guys keep doing your goddamn thing. And the rest of this team will come and we'll pick you up and we'll give you some run support. What's crazy, Damon, is I was looking at stats, just random stats, as I tend to do. Derek. Big brain. Sometimes. Sometimes I just get bored, smoke a little pot,
Starting point is 00:46:30 sit around here and stare on stats on MLB.com. Don't hurt yourself, man. No, I know, but I wanted to bring this up. The Diamondbacks are second to last in Major League Baseball in at-bats. They have 1,565 at bats. Meanwhile, the Washington Nationals that have the most at bats
Starting point is 00:46:52 and have one of the better offenses in baseball this year, 1,689 at bats, Damon, they have 124 more bats than the Diamondbacks. And that's like kind of similar right to like a shot attempts in basketball where it's like, if you just get more attempts at the basket, you're more than likely going to score more points. You're not getting rebounds. You're not getting second chance opportunities.
Starting point is 00:47:16 You're not doing that in basketball. And baseball, it means you're not getting very, you're not scoring a lot. You're not getting a lot of base runners. You're not getting a lot of hits. So you're not getting the. opportunities to have games where you go up and get five at bats. You said 120 more?
Starting point is 00:47:29 100 and 130 five more. Wait, no, sorry, 124 more. And there's been about what, 45-ish games played this season. Diamondbacks have 47 games. Nationals do have two more games played at 49. So you would assume like roughly a little bit less than three at bats per game more than for the nationals. But that adds up over the course of a period of time.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Imagine if the dining backs had three less at-bats tonight, Derek. They would have lost. They could have had three less than bad. They could have had one less at bat. Yes. That's what I'm saying. Sometimes you just need to give yourselves more shots at the dartboard. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Right. 100%. Yeah. I mean, clearly the offense has not been good enough. It's been a lot of, and I think to that to that point, like that shows that not only is our players not really performing that well, but you're not stringed together enough offense. Like you're getting guys.
Starting point is 00:48:24 that are getting hits, but they're getting hits, and then everybody else around them is getting out. Right. And then next time that they come up, the guy who just got a hit, he gets out, but then the guy who didn't get a hit that would have knocked that guy in the last time up, he gets a hit the second time.
Starting point is 00:48:38 And it's just the timing is so far off. Like, that's what we talk about when we talk about complimentary baseball. And that's what it feels like the dying back's offense has been struggling with so much this season. But you love to see kind of a momentum shifting performance like this tonight where you, feel like Catelle could just absolutely explode in these next few games here, right?
Starting point is 00:49:00 Like, I might bet on Catell. I did bet on Catell to hit a home run tonight. Granted, it was in a parlay, so I didn't actually win any money on it. I got Mike Trout too. It was two for four. It was a four leg parlay. It was for generational wealth. We don't have to talk about it anymore.
Starting point is 00:49:15 I thought I had a good bet. It was kind of a good bet. We'll rip it again tomorrow. But I might put Catell in it again because it's just hitting the shit out of the baseball. Yeah. And like it feels like he's ready to explode. Just have that floodgate open up. The momentum is here.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Yeah. Well, here's Tori talking about tonight's win and just all of this, how this momentum shift, hopefully can get this team on the right track. It was great. You know, you fight and you claw for, for, what, eight and two-thirds innings. You don't have a lot of really good results because they've made plays on you. And then, you know, the right guy in the right spot come up and win you a baseball game. Catell is made for those moments.
Starting point is 00:49:55 He likes to step into that, into that space, pick up his team. And I was watching his post-game interview. And he said that he's just doing everything for the team. And that's the thing that keeps sticking out for me. With Cotel and the rest of the guys are just so team-oriented, team concepts. Or, you know, all around us every single day, and they play for one another. And when they linked up in that last inning, and they did in the seventh and the eighth as well, It was just great to watch.
Starting point is 00:50:26 So Ketel was fantastic. We built the inning with guys in front of him. We just never gave in. And we kept fighting despite some really tough outs that ended the seventh and the eighth inning. And that's what makes us even more impressive. You know, I don't want to forget about what Nellie did. He goes basically four times through the order. Does a really nice job pitching through seven.
Starting point is 00:50:48 It wasn't easy for him early. Made some really good adjustments with Gabby. And that's what this game is. It's about adaptability, making adjustments, and they were coming out swinging. They clearly had a game plan. They were going to try to get on top of that 95 plus mile dollar fastball, and they beat them.
Starting point is 00:51:05 We got punched in the face, but making adjustments is something that we do very, very well, and that's the reason why it worked out so well for Nellie. And then Ginkle, Loisaga, it just was a really good game to win. We got to go home, get some rest, come back out here, and try and win the final game of the series. I need to go home and get some rest, Damon, because I've been up to five o'clock in the morning. So let's go and take a quick break because I need a break, but I still have to sit here and do ads. And then we're going to talk more about this game because we're getting once again owned here in the studio.
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Starting point is 00:54:04 Damon, what time is it? Game time? Game time. And, of course, it's game time, but it's time to talk about the game. Let's take a look at the numbers from tonight's win over the Giants. The Diamondbacks won this one by a score of five to three.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Both teams had four extra base hits. The Giants had one more home run than the Diamondbacks, but Nolan Arnato had two doubles. You had the Corbyn Carroll triple, and then, of course, Catelle Marte's big walk-off home run. Diamondbacks were three for seven tonight with runners in scoring position. Meanwhile, the Giants were 0 for 8. Again, Nellie had let base runners on,
Starting point is 00:54:40 but he did a great job of not letting those base runners score. And the Giants did have a higher hard-hit percentage tonight, which usually isn't this much of a difference for the Diamondbacks. but just goes to show how their offense was kind of struggling in this one. 33.3% hard hit percentage for the debacks to the Giants 41.4%. But then meanwhile, the expected batting average, that kind of tells a little bit of a different tale. It just goes to show how the Diamondbacks were getting kind of unlucky in tonight's game.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Their expected batting average was 331 to the Giants 260. And meanwhile, for the majority of this game, I believe they had four hits for most of this game or five hits. So not a lot of offense from the Diamondbacks tonight. However, they were very good with ABS challenges. They were three for three. Meanwhile, the Giants were one for two losing that one during the Perdomo at bat. But again, just a good win here for the Diamondbacks and a good way to build on yesterday's win as well.
Starting point is 00:55:37 You have the Diamondbacks, of course, winning in game one by a lot. And, you know, we've talked about it. we've talked about the debacks, kind of letting their offense disappear after a big game. And that tonight looked like it was going to be one of those games, right? After the Diamondbacks thoroughly beat the Giants by a score of 12 to 2 with Robbie Ray of all pitchers on the mound. Or on Monday, you definitely felt like, you know, that Diamondbacks were putting together something special here. You know, they scored a lot of runs in the finale of their series with the Rockies. and now you had them putting up 12 runs in a win over the Giants.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Again, a very thorough victory in game one. Zach Gallin was very good for this team in game one. He gave the Diamondback six innings, four hits, two earned runs. He walked one and struck out five. Gallin looked like Gallin of old. Fastball still isn't great, but he found a way to be effective. And again, he only gave up four hits in six innings. Great stuff from Gallin.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Ketal Marte was two for four with two RBI in that game. So again, you're starting. and I feel like Marte is really starting to heat up. Corby Carroll also two for four. Ildamaro Vargas, two for five. Gabby Moreno, two for five with two RBI. Plenty of RBI to go around. Of course, the big, big, big blast was from Nolan Aronado,
Starting point is 00:56:58 who hit a grand slam very early in that game in the bottom of the first inning to put the diamondbacks up by a score of four to nothing. And that stuck. That was all the diamondbacks really needed, but they still put up eight more runs. So again, tonight you were hoping to see that carry over and to see that, you know, leak into multiple games.
Starting point is 00:57:17 We were maybe going to get three in a row, and they still put up five runs tonight. So I'm not going to say that that's a poor offensive performance. I'm just going to say the way that this game went with so much missed opportunity in the middle there between the first inning and the ninth inning, you really do feel like this Diamondbacks team can put up far more runs, are capable of putting up far more runs than they are, especially when you saw them yesterday beat, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:42 the Giants by a score of 12 to 10. too, but they take the series here, and this is a very important stretch, this 13 game stretch that we've talked about, the Diamondbacks having 13 games against the Giants and the Rockies. They have three against the Rockies. They go two for three out of those. Now they have three against the Giants. They've already won two out of these three, and they go for the sweep tomorrow. Should they get that sweep?
Starting point is 00:58:03 This record that we've been hoping that they would obtain during the stretch is looking very, very possible. 10 wins over a 13 game stretch suddenly doesn't look so crazy. here if the Diamondbacks can find a way to sweep the Giants here. Then they have four games against the Rockies and then three more, four games against the Rockies here at Chase Field, three more in San Francisco against the Giants. Now, neither of these teams are teams to be taken lightly.
Starting point is 00:58:28 However, these are teams that the Diamondbacks are very capable of beating. And when you see what they did tonight, you start to feel pretty good about their chances of coming out on the other side of this stretch with that positive record that we've been looking for. However, you know, again, there's still a lot of games between now and then. And to be honest, this 13 game stretch still doesn't decide their season. I know we've said that. We've made it out to be that.
Starting point is 00:58:52 But it's more of the, if they didn't do well, it's time to start maybe not thinking of them as a potential playoff team. Right. That's literally how crucial this stretch feels. However, it's still may. Let's be honest. And there's still a lot of baseball to play. Hopefully what this stretch does if the Diamondbacks are able to come. out with a good record on the other side of these 13 games just gets them on the right track.
Starting point is 00:59:16 And again, they have some stretches that are difficult. But going forward for June, they end the month against the Mariners. That's a team that hasn't been playing great baseball. That entire division sucks. The athletics don't even have an above 500 record and they are in first place in the American League West, which is just insane. Same thing with the Central. The two garbage divisions implode these divisions.
Starting point is 00:59:40 and let's figure out how we can get baseball. Can we just get in the American League? I mean, the National League is a joke compared to the American League. You know? Well, you mean that the opposite, right? Well, I meant it. I meant it exactly how I said it, but I can understand how you would say that I probably should have said it the other way.
Starting point is 00:59:59 I mean, the American League is just a disaster. And I'm saying, like, it's a joke, like, because if you don't laugh, if you don't laugh, you'll cry, type of vibe. Yeah, like, I mean, the Cubs have two. 10 game winning streaks this season and they are in second place in the NL Central behind the Brewers. They're in third.
Starting point is 01:00:17 They're in third? The Cardinals are ahead of them unless this is not updated yet. Oh my God. That's crazy. Well, again, I mean, and just two weeks ago, the Brewers were in last place in that particular division. Two weeks ago, the Reds were in first.
Starting point is 01:00:29 They're in fourth. It's insane. And I think every team has a winning record. Every time I look at the Padres, they're winning. Although I think they lost tonight. but to the Dodgers though so it's not like it's that much better we just want those two teams to like beat up on each other the braves are incredible and that 500 record have you seen the phillies post firing their manager oh yeah don madingley is doing some stuff in philadelphia they're the best
Starting point is 01:00:54 team ever yeah they're the best team in the sport i mean you and i'm defending troy lovolo a lot but there's never been a case for firing your manager more than what's going on with the phillies we killed the Phillies and then all of a sudden I look and the Phillies are back. They're above 500. Every team should fire their manager. That's what I feel. Yeah, it's not great.
Starting point is 01:01:13 It's not great. And then you look at the American League and you just laugh. Like the Blue Jays are in third place. They're terrible. We played them. They're awful. The White Sox are in second place. That checks out because they're actually a pretty decent team because the rest of that
Starting point is 01:01:25 division is utter garbage outside the Guardians. Yeah. And then the ALS is really just a joke. the Angels, man. Angels baseball. I don't even care about the division anymore. Get me this team with Corbyn Burns, AJ Puck, and Justin Martinez on it into the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:01:43 What's Mike Trout up to? Mother F and Yops. Here's an idea. Does Mike Trout want to play designated header for the Arizona Diamondbacks? I feel like you've been secretly pushing this agenda for years. And maybe just live in, live in Arizona full time. He doesn't have to move anywhere.
Starting point is 01:01:58 He can just, you know, Angel. You know, he probably has a house. here, spring train here, live here during the season, be our designated hitter, right off into the sunset with 500 home runs. I don't hate any of what you're saying. I mean, I just think that he has a no trade clause
Starting point is 01:02:13 and he'll probably deny any trade. Which is nuts because he should want to leave. I, if I was Mike Trout, I would want the opposite of a no trade clause. Where's the pro trade clause? I have a yes trade clause. I have a yes trade clause. It means it means any team. And I will go happily and be in and be ecstatic.
Starting point is 01:02:31 and do backflips. Well, yeah, I mean, Yordon Alvarez would be insane, but I feel like the cost there is like, yeah, astronomical.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Yeah, but man, I mean, the angels are so bad. Add a power hitter to this lineup. Add a power hitter to this lineup. It feels like, it feels like you're one like special power type power hitter away from being like an insane type of offense.
Starting point is 01:02:52 And that's the one, figures it out. Yeah, right. But that's the like, that's the one weapon that we don't have at all. Yeah. We don't have that coming back.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Jordan Lawler is a great baseball player and I'm sure he's going to do I'm sure he's going to resume where he was at. It might take him a little time, but I think Jordan Lawler will still be very effective offensively and he will still help this team win baseball games. He's just not going to be that power hitter that this team seemingly will not have
Starting point is 01:03:16 all season long unless they're able to trade for one before the deadline. That seems like to be the only way that they can add that power bat. But man, do they need it? Man, do they need it? And I mean, I'm, I know this is going to piss off one guy, Michael Rokickey, but I don't think Pave and Smith is that guy. I don't think
Starting point is 01:03:34 Payman Smith is that that power hitter. I mean, I think Pave and Smith might be better as a lefty option than what we're currently playing. But ADC is still going to get the bats against the righties. And here I just want to say, well, I mean, Paving would get those at bats hypothetically, no, don't you think that that would be the, they would have to probably send ADC down to play Phaven? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. You're, I mean, Tim Tawa, ADC. There's a couple of guys. I'll say ADC got that hit when no one believed in him. When everyone thought the game was over with with two outs there ADC at the plate he gets that hit he knocks in a run Walt Schmidt catchers interference could tell Marte walk off home run like that doesn't happen without
Starting point is 01:04:11 ADC getting not one but two hits tonight so yeah I know he's playing terrible and that'll make everyone mad but I want to just give I feel like it credit where credits do when a guy I said I should have deleted that whole thing when a guy being bad out of here no I don't even think so because I mean it's the sample size that we have and it's it's the truth over the course. the season, but I think that just as much as we criticize someone heavily when they're not performing and he hasn't been. And we, he deserves the criticism because he's a, you know, pro athlete making a lot of money. This is, you know, where we give him his flowers because we say like that was a tough at bat and he grinded out and gave his team an opportunity to
Starting point is 01:04:50 continue the game. Absolutely. But yeah, I think Pavin Smith helps you out over ADC. But like, wouldn't it be great to have a guy that you're like, sharpie him and. as the DH every single day because he's a 40 home run guy and like, you know, takes a ton of walks and that would just be, it'd be godsend for this, for this offense. And 2 BMC is absolutely right.
Starting point is 01:05:11 He says if a rise doesn't make a great play to turn 2, ADC gets an RBI there, got to give credit to the defense for making those plays. And it just felt like, you know, again, the Diamondbacks had this thing where they would get the opportunity set up, but then even with one out, hit into a double play and watch that rally just fizzle out.
Starting point is 01:05:29 but ADC, like you said, stepped up big there at the end. And as many people are saying in the chat, he's still young, right? Yeah, I mean, it's, and he's shown some chops for sure off on the offensive side, like that you would be like, keep them in the organization. I don't want him gone. He's just going to be one of those guys you send down and then he's going to hit 400 in Reno and you're going to want him back more than anything. That's what's going to happen.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Once the one guy struggles, then you're like, can we just bring ADC back? Yeah, can we get that back? I like what stuff plus enthusiasts said. He's actually killing it here in the chat right now since he's joined. and said crazy how we went from no power in 23, which was like the one thing we were like, we got to add power, man, because it's what is probably the reason you do win the World Series too.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Power loaded in the last two years where you're just, your offense is insane, but you're probably a little bit to power reliant. And the pitching absolutely sucked. And then back to no power this year. It felt like the Diamondbacks over 24 and 25 just couldn't even, couldn't even manufacture runs, right? So, you know, that's what happens when you do rely too much on that power.
Starting point is 01:06:32 But those offenses were obviously, like, better, I feel like at the same time. So it might be a little feast or famine sometimes, but like they were objectively better. 100%. Well, let's take a quick break. On the other side of this break, we have a very positive update for you involving Corbyn Burns. And we also have some, like, I think we have some super chats to read. Let's do that on the other side of this break. Don't you go anywhere?
Starting point is 01:06:55 You're watching the page next time and back show. Well, even on a 20-hour day like this for Derek, I'm still going to have a hard time going to sleep. I'm probably going to go home and watch the replay of this game until Cotele is at bat. That's probably what I'm going to do. But of course, to get some sleep, I love our friends at pure edibles because they have a candy designed exactly for that. In fact, they're a full-fledged candy company offering you edibles for more than just gummies, though they do have gummies that aren't covered in sugar like their competitors. But they also have, of course, kicks, which are their version of Starburst,
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Starting point is 01:09:55 Why'd you say it like that? The backwards thing? Yeah. Because I really want to mess with you at this point. I mean, I get the graphics set up all nice. Your graphics up and screw everything up. And I got them in chronological order. We were an hour and 10 minutes into this podcast.
Starting point is 01:10:09 I was up since 5 o'clock in this morning. My brain's not working correctly. You know that. That's fair. You're lucky I can read right now, Damon. That's honestly a fair. In fact, I had to go to Alex Weiner to ask him what. I'm not, I'm not mad at that.
Starting point is 01:10:21 I had to get Alex to tell me what Ryan Nelson's pitch count was on the giant pitch count. graphic that's in left field. I couldn't see it. My eyes were blurry. I don't even know how I'm getting home tonight, but I hopefully will make it home safely, even if it involves Damon driving me there. I just wanted to remind you guys that if you're a diehard,
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Starting point is 01:10:55 slash events. I saw Groundhog Mama way up in the chat. She was celebrating her eight, eight month anniversary with PHNX. Oh, glad you saw this, Derek, because I missed it. Groundhog Mama celebrating eight months of membership. I saw people walking out when ADC came up to bat in the ninth,
Starting point is 01:11:15 but those of us who stayed were rewarded. You fools. Like, you know what, Damon? I, look, I am a man who can understand when people. I do. I love that. I love that. Watch their team.
Starting point is 01:11:27 I love that people didn't get to see that Catell walkoff all-time moment losers. I hope those people heard the cheers and they came back to the front door, but it was like locked and they were like, shame, shame, shame, let me in. Yeah, shame them, shame them. Look, I understand not wanting to watch your team lose. However, you were that deep into the game.
Starting point is 01:11:50 You were in the bottom of the ninth inning. You watched someone hit and get on base and then you left? That's a poor choice. Like, I understand leaving in the seventh inning. Eh, whatever. I don't think they got it tonight. I'm done watching this.
Starting point is 01:12:06 I'm going to get home early. Get some sleep. You stayed up all the way until like 9.30 at night at Chase Field. And then you still didn't get to experience the joy the rest of us did by being there to see Cotel Marte hit his first career walkoff. I can confidently say, Derek, I have left one sporting event early in my entire life. My parents have instilled it within me as a young child. we stay till the end of the game, win or lose.
Starting point is 01:12:32 And I think it's a great, it's a great thing that I carry with me and that I actually do care about the one game I've ever left early, you're going to get a kick out of this. And some people in the chat will, and some people in the chat, it might bring up a dark time.
Starting point is 01:12:46 When ASU was in Tucson in 2024, about to go to the Big 12 championship game with the win and just go and belt the ass on this most embarrassing game I've ever seen, I just was like, I can't take it anymore. I have to walk out of this stadium. And I'm getting, Derek, you know, I was, I was messing with some ASU fans during the game and like kind of like ribbon them back and forth. And we'd get a first down.
Starting point is 01:13:12 We were down 20 and I'd be, you know, yelling in their face. They were, they were waving me out of the stadium. And I'm in my own stadium. And I'm sitting there and I'm like, this is, this is bad. This is bad. But yeah, that's just a little fun story. Took your lungs on the way out, didn't you? I did.
Starting point is 01:13:27 And I deserved it. Well, we got some super chats here. Our guy, Johnny Walker, my friend, great school, missed you. Johnny Walker's live chat says, first go D-backs. Thank you so much. $10. $10.00. What a stud.
Starting point is 01:13:41 What a hero. And then his other super chat for $2 says, Damon, who does your eyebrows? This is a funny one that I, you're not the first guy who's ever said this to me. I get this from ASU fans a lot. And believe it or not, I just have very, very distinguished eyebrows. That's it. I'm not, I'm not going to say I don't clean anything up around there, but it's like I don't have, I don't get any like professional help done.
Starting point is 01:14:05 My eyebrows are just very bushy and very prominent in their in their way. So you know what? I wake up in the morning like Mr. Potato Head, I put my angry eyebrows on and I go to work, Darren. Well, you know who cannot wait to go to work, Damon? Corbin Burns. Corbin Burns has had it up to here with your bullpens. He's had it up to here with your simulated. things, games,
Starting point is 01:14:30 bullpens, outings, throwing, whatever. AJ Puck, meanwhile, he is actually throwing today against live batters, Damon, today. And Corbyn Burns, he threw a bullpen today. He was chomping at the bit to come back. He has two more bullpen sessions
Starting point is 01:14:46 before he faces hitters, which will likely be in a live session next Friday. Hell yeah, bro. And then he thinks it could be a couple of weeks before he starts getting into games. still targeting mid-Julyish. But Burns did tell us before the game today
Starting point is 01:15:03 that he's on target to return by then or a little early, maybe a little earlier. I don't know, Damon, but I'm very excited to have our four-time all-star former Cy Young winner back. You know, obviously, you know, it's, it's incredible what he's done in his career and you feel like even if he's a little rusty when he first gets back, that there's no way that Corbyn Burns doesn't make the starting
Starting point is 01:15:30 rotation that has been very good over the last 14 starts, even better than they've been. They're making it tough right now, I guess, in terms of, you know, who would leave the rotation. Right. I guess, you know, it's not like Zach Gallen was absolutely shut down yesterday, but he did have himself a pretty good performance when it felt like, you know, he really needed one in comparison to the other guys. So, yeah, I mean, it's good decisions to have. but it feels like, you know, somebody might possibly have to go to make way for the best pitcher that the organization has in Corbyn Burns.
Starting point is 01:16:03 And with AJ Puck and Corbyn's back, like night and day, Derek, we're a new team. 100%. Now, of course, you know, it's depth that it provides because there's a good chance that we're not going to go through the remainder of the season without experiencing other injuries, right? So you have the depth that it adds with whoever is out of the starting rotation, plus also Brandon fought still technically being a starter somewhere in someone's mind. So again, there's there's just depth there that makes you feel like this team could sustain other bad things happening to them and still might be able to be a winning team through the season and make the postseason. This NL West is going to be incredibly difficult. However, I'll say this. And again, Dodger Derek over here, right?
Starting point is 01:16:56 Damon, everybody in the chat using me of that. This Dodger team, I feel like is more beatable than it's ever been. Well, they're going through their struggles. Yeah, they're going through their struggles offensively. They're experiencing their share of injuries. They lost Edwin Diaz for possibly the rest of the year, not only due to injury, but due to the fact he thought the cockfighting was still legal, like there's a lot of things going on with that team that are distractions. It's legal in Puerto Rico.
Starting point is 01:17:20 It's absolutely not, Damon, but don't even make me tell you about the time that my dad's hotel, a holiday inn sponsored cockfighting when I live there. That's how big it was at the time. They put their logo on the bag. Back in 1945, it was legal to do cockfighting in Puerto Rico when Derek was a nasty. That's mean. That's mean that you know it. I'm going to get out of here right now. I'm not even going to finish up this two hour long show.
Starting point is 01:17:46 I'm pretty sure I just do it. Or I'm going to sit here and make you do it for longer. let's go three hours, Damon. I only did the old guy jokes for a piece of Yoshi. Oh, dead. But I mean, I think it was El Gaios said it earlier, if that's El Gio, said like with the way this pitching staff is pitching, I'm not excited. And I can understand the sentiment because the Diamondback starters and even their bullpen
Starting point is 01:18:08 right now is they're not the problem with this team losing games. They've been giving them quality, quality outings, whether it's starters or, you know, relievers. I know Zach has struggled, but again, you still feel like pitching has not been the problem for this team lately over the last two, three weeks. It's really been the offense. And pitching has given them actually a chance to win a lot of baseball games. So credit to the staff for doing that. However, I feel like even though you might have your reservations about Corbyn Burns and AJ Puck and Justin Martinez returning to this team, I can almost assure you, aside from the dad bod factor with a couple of these guys,
Starting point is 01:18:47 you know, kids will do that to you. These guys are going to come back, possibly better than ever, you know. And at the very least, these guys are going to come back and help improve this team and not make it worse, right? So that's an exciting proposition, but they still have to figure out the offense and they still have to find a way to get this consistency out of this offense. We got one more super chat from once again, my great school friend, Johnny Walker, who says one thing about our lineup that feels great is everyone has done it in the past or is currently doing it now. It's a good point. That's a great point. It honestly, it makes you feel like they can get on a roll here at any point.
Starting point is 01:19:21 It rings true, too. I mean, you go around the diamond. I think, you know, first base, Ildemar Vargas has been the best hitter all season long. Kattel is the best pure hitter on the team. Pardomo was the best shortstop in baseball last year. Aronado is a potential hall of famer. We were talking about that earlier today, Derek. And he's playing good right now.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Yeah. You know, Walt Schmidt's hidden the baseball right now. Gurriel's been NL player of the week, probably 16 times in his career with, you know, how crazy he gets in certain outputs. And then Corby is, is the man. I honestly think maybe Gabby is the guy that is like not done it for like a consistent stretch as much, but he did it in the playoffs. Yeah. He did it in the postseason in 2023. So, you know, he even had like that, that, that moment, those huge, huge moments. Uh, so yeah, yeah, I mean, this, this lineup feels pretty. solid on paper when you put it top to bottom.
Starting point is 01:20:17 Karen with a C in the chat. Karen King says y'all going to need some wake up gummies or energy drink for today's game, Damon. Well, we got four minutes. We got four minutes, but still not wrong. Not wrong. That's crazy, crazy, Oshy.
Starting point is 01:20:33 I honestly, you know what? I was looking at the all-M-OB thing today and I sent it to Derek and I was mad about Corby not being on it because Corbyn's stats are probably worthy of being on it. Yeah. But how does old Maro Bargis not make his way on there? He's hitting 335. I know. He's qualified now, right?
Starting point is 01:20:51 Yeah, he's the league leader in average. O'Gaios says they rushed Kelly and it took him a while to look good. They did not rush Merrill Kelly. There's no rushing. I know you want to say that. You said that there's like rehab starts or they're going to use major league games for rehab starts. They're not doing any of that. The problem is that there's nothing like facing major league hitting, period.
Starting point is 01:21:13 So when you return from being off due to injury or for whatever reason, in Merrill's case, it was the fact that he didn't have a normal spring training. It's going to take you a while regardless, whether you're a hitter or a pitcher to get back in the group. So that's going to come with these guys returning regardless. It's going to come with Pave and Smith and Jordan Lawler returning, and it's going to come with these guys returning from the bullpen. But hopefully it's not, you know, maybe as long as Merrill, right, or as bad as Merrill. And I will say that, again, Merrill has been out.
Starting point is 01:21:43 outstanding his last two starts. He will be starting for the Diamondbacks in the finale and looking to help them get the sweep tomorrow or today. I don't even know what day is it. Is it, have we crossed the threshold? No. Good, because we need to wrap this show up before we get to Wednesday. They're disrespect in Venezuela and Tony Gwynn, Sean says.
Starting point is 01:22:02 Oh, that's fair. That's probably fair. It might be disrespectful to Ildomaro to even make that comparison. Yeah. He might be better than Tony Gwyn. You're right. I mean, Barry Bonds is. what we were going with, but whatever.
Starting point is 01:22:15 People didn't like that. But that's it for this show. We thank you guys so much. We're going to get out of here. I'm going to try my best to not make this a 20-hour day, but I've a feeling that that just literally went out the window now that it's midnight. So we'll see what happens. But of course, we love you guys.
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Starting point is 01:23:06 It's your most valuable commodity. So again, be careful who you do share it with. And we will see back here today. later today with another post game show. Is that right? Are we there yet? Not quite. In one minute, we'll be there.
Starting point is 01:23:19 But we'll be back with the post game show for the finale of this series with the Giants. So make sure to join us. Now we are. Now we're all. Okay. Later today. You stretched it out long enough there by asking six times. And Karen, Karen needed it.
Starting point is 01:23:32 But yes, we are now at midnight. It is now May 20th and we will be doing a show in entirely too close to now. So I need to go get some sleep. But of course, until then, I hope you guys have yourselves a wonderful night. Damon loves you. I love you. We appreciate you guys stopping by. We'll see you tomorrow or today.
Starting point is 01:23:52 Oh, that doesn't sound great. And remember, kids, baseball is fun, but it's so much more fun when Catelle Marte hits his first career walkoff home run.

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