PHNX Arizona Diamondbacks Podcast - Robots calling balls and strikes? Good. Robots ranking MLB’s sexiest managers? Bad.

Episode Date: January 13, 2023

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Hello and welcome in to a special edition of the PHNX D-BACs podcast right here on PHNX. It's a special edition because we're going to diss robots this whole episode. My name is Derek Montia. Of course, I am your mayor, PHNX. This guy next to me, he's the one and only thunderstick. He's also my vice mayor. It's Jesse Friedman. Jesse?

Not the neural network, though. The neural network is the one. Oh, my God, not AI. Yeah, no, I would never attack AI. That robot, there will be no slander. There will be no slander. Dan Zimborski or any of his AI. Some other robots have misbehaved lately.

Yeah, there definitely are. But one thing we are very excited about, of course, is that this show is brought to you by the fine folks at the Draft King Sportsbook app, America's top-rated sportsbook app. And we are also very excited about how close we might be to robot umpires being online in Major League Baseball because here we come, robot umpires. The SkyNet is online and we are getting robot umpires in AAA baseball. Let's go for robot umpires.

That's the guy I want to see out there, Jesse. You know that. Did you make that? Do you photoshop that? No, it's, it's, the idea has been floated out there that we actually have, you know, a humanoid type thing back there, right? And like Gabriel Ferrer says, I for one welcome our robot overlords, at least right now for the time being in AAA baseball. It seems that all AAA parks will be using the automated balls and strike system coming this season, which just begs the question. How soon until it's fully implemented in Major League Baseball?

I mean, we're right at the doorstep, right? We're not going to. They've done this now at the Fall League. We saw the challenge system, the ABS challenge system put into play. Which we loved by the way. Which we absolutely love. We talked about that a lot. And now we're seeing, I believe it's 50-50.

So they're using the challenge system at half the ballparks. They're using just straight up robo-umps in half the ballparks to kind of test these things out. it seems like players like the challenge system better than just straight up Robooms. We've talked about that as well in the past. My guess is that, you know, as they continue to collect feedback from players, that's probably what the preference is going to be coming out of AAA. And I think that's more likely what we'll see in the big leagues at some point. But yeah, I mean, if we make it out to a AAA baseball game this next year, it'll be,

it'll be especially interesting. I'm curious what just straight up Robooms looks like, because that's the one thing that I haven't seen yet. And it still blows my mind that an umpire is just standing there, just relaying what the, what the robot is saying in his ear, right? It's just a, it's just a weird concept. And I hope it's a robot voice. Of course, you knew that. I didn't tell you guys that. Of course, it's very digital. No, I think that honestly, the system, it, the way we saw it in Folly was very interesting. It was fun. Yeah. The reactions from the dugouts were great. Everything about it seemed. But it, the key there is that it kept the human element in the game, right? It's not replacing the umpire. It's

merely there to exist should they challenge the call, right? It reminds me of tennis in a way because the review that they do where they can show you exactly where the ball lands, whether it's I think that was, yeah, I mean, I think that was kind of the inspiration. Like, I think they definitely took something out of the book of tennis. Much like tennis, the one problem I have with it is if we have this technology, why do we need a person up there doing this? Yeah. Right. If we can just automatically know whether the tennis ball was in or out, we just need someone to relay that message and not to just justify their, you know, otherwise existence, I guess I should say. Yeah, it's fair. It's a fair point. I think there's definitely a contingent of fans that agree with you. And I think even if the challenge system is put into place at the big league level, there are still going to be moments where calls are missed and players don't challenge or where I haven't personally seen this, but where a team runs. out of challenges and is unable to challenge a call that was clearly missed, those things are

going to happen. And when they happen, fans inevitably are going to be like, why are we doing this stupid in between of, you know, using the technology for challenges, but not using it universally. I'm sure that debate will be ongoing. But I personally still like some human element. And I think a lot of other people do too. And I don't know how you can argue that umpires don't have an ego, right? because if you did, we wouldn't see things like the CB Buckner interaction from this year.

Yeah, don't get me wrong. Having a guy come out and scream in your face, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. The robots will have a larger ego, though, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, like, don't you dare test a robot. We strive for perfection here, even though we know we can't achieve it, but robots, they can achieve perfection. So they know what they're doing. Also, what is heckling a robot umpire going to be like, you know? You saw a good response today.

I can't imagine what heckling robots are going to be like. Someone responded, I think I found this on Facebook. Someone was like replying to a post where they shared this, this buster-only article that broke this news. And someone said, like, how are we going to heckle the robot arms? We're going to say, like, your mom was a parking meter or something like that. Your mom is DOS based. You know what I mean?

Like, you had your lens cap on, right? Like, there's a lot of jokes there to be had. But like you said, when you piss off a robot umpire, again, in my world, they have a mounted laser cannon. So obviously that's not something you're going to want to do very lightly. But all jokes aside, it is interesting to see how this changes baseball. And I really feel like right now is the time to do it. I feel like, again, Pandora's box is a bit open when we decided to just implement the DH in the National League.

Once you did that is like, it's all fucking over. Pretty soon I was hearing on a John Boy show, they floated the idea of having a rollover out. So like if there are like two outs in an inning and you turn a double play, then then you have like the first out of the next inning. Yeah. Yeah. Once we allow DH into the nationally all bets or anything, anything is possible at this point. Blurn's ball. I want Blurne's ball from Futurama.

That's what I would like it to slowly turn into. If we can get a multi-ball system to somehow be implemented in baseball where there is more than one baseball being thrown around out there. That's where I draw the line there. That's where I draw the line. Well, you know, whatever. Once, like I said, we're already in this zone. It's the danger zone, and that's where we are in. In other news, though, the pirates are bringing back a beloved rival of the Arizona Diamondbacks,

Andrew McCutcheon, which I feel like is pretty cool on a one-year deal. It seems like he's very close to a lot of his career milestones that he's going to hit, so he'll set those in Pittsburgh where he, you know, obviously was such a big part of those teams. And I think, I don't know. I just, I think this is what. We all kind of hope for for a beloved player to return to the team maybe after they've left and, you know, played for a significant time elsewhere to wrap it up back with us or back with the home team. The pirates also don't have very much going on. So I think that it's the right call from a standpoint of bringing fans in and making them interested in this team.

Yeah. Yeah. It is a little bizarre in some ways because, yeah, I mean, the pirates are they're not exactly on the up and up right now. It still seems like a Brian Reynolds trade is possible, although I've seen a lot of people say that the asking price for Brian Reynolds is analogous to the Nationals asking price for Juan Soto. And those two players are not on the same playing field. So maybe a deal doesn't ultimately get done when all is said and done. But yeah, Andrew McCutcheon still has something to offer in 2022 with the Brewers. He had 237, 316, 384, 17 homers, 69 RBIs. That was over 134 games. He's probably more of a platoon option.

Ideally, at this point, I don't know if you really want Andrew McCutcheon is like your everyday corner outfielder, definitely not centerfielder at this point. But yeah, the pirates don't have a whole lot going for them at this point. So it is kind of a cool story to see McCutcheon returning to Pittsburgh. Who are we bringing back to wrap up their career here? and why is it obviously Paul Goldschman? I was, I literally just had that same thought, honestly. I mean, it's not going to happen.

I feel like he has already moved on to St. Louis being his forever home. His forever home. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. It's a good, it's a good question. I mean, McCutcheon was with the Pirates from 2009 to 2017. We just, we just changed all our entire tone. I knew the, I knew the lighting.

I knew the lighting. I'm so sorry. I am so sorry. We decided that it was too bright and cheery in here to. talk about Paul Goldschmidt, so we needed a darker zone. Turn all the lights off at this point. Let's get some sad music playing. But yeah, Goldschmidt's diamondbacks career went from 2011 to 2019. So you have a near, I guess 2018 would have been the last full season that he played. So yeah, you have like a kind of a similar timeline there. Goldschmidt spent almost the exact same amount

of time with the Diamondbacks as as McCutcheon did with Pittsburgh before moving on to other organizations. Fortunately for the debacks, Paul Goldschmidt has aged quite well moving forward in his career, whereas McCutcheon has never really been the same guy since leaving Pittsburgh. That's a great point. And I kind of wish that for Paul Goldman just a little bit selfishly, but of course, I'm happy for his success. Anyway. He's on a Hall of Fame trajectory. He is. And Gabriel Ferrer is going to have to burn down Cooperstown because he said in the comments, I will burn down Cooper's town if Goldie goes in as a cardinal. I don't know, man. That's an Interesting.

That's a whole other topic for another day. I thought about that. I might not want to actually have an answer to. But it really depends. Like what happens in these next few years with St. Louis? Yeah. You know,

I mean, last year he was, he was fantastic. But, you know, if he starts to kind of wear down a little bit over the next few years, maybe he looks at his DEVAC's careers being like, you know,

I mean, those were probably going to be the best years of his career when all is said and done. But if he, you know, spends the rest of his career in St. Louis, it really could get kind of dicey.

Kyle in the chat says, Goldie will come back after your tire, see the Jersey retired by the D-Bex, and go ahead and go to Cooperstown with the Cardinals hat. Pain, yeah, that's probably... That would be an unfortunate outcome. That's probably, you know, it's going to go now. We need to pick the mood up here.

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There will also be heaters if you're a little chilly. It shouldn't be that cold. We looked at the weather and it should be around the 70s. And their patio is dog friendly. How do you look at the weather? Is that not like two weeks out? How do you look at the weather that far? Do you not look at the fucking weather?

Well, but they don't know what they're talking about. Oh my God, Jesse. Come on now. This is the guy that trust. Are you fucking kidding? No. But he doesn't fucking trust fucking meteorologist? What is wrong with you?

It's a form of science, Jesse. Oh, no. I absolutely trust meteorologists for tomorrow. Oh, or Sunday. Maybe Tuesday. He's dissing your 10-day forecast. I don't think this is that. Every single meteorologist, he just said your 10-day

This is not a controversial. Oh my God. I think there's a pretty solid understanding across the universe in general that like meteorology more than about a week out doesn't really mean anything. But I digress. I get it. You right now are essentially questioning science and that is absolutely what we want to do now is we want to question the science. Because fucking robots might be able to call balls and strikes, but they cannot determine the sexiness of MLB managers. There was a golden, excuse me, it was an article.

on gambling.com. Elizabeth agrees. No, don't agree with him. Don't do not. Do not do that. Elizabeth, normally I agree with you as well and normally you back me up. But Jesse, you're fucking wrong.

Yeah. It's not a debatable topic. Jesse's just flat out wrong on that one. I feel very strongly about this. But, you know, projections for 2023, he trusts for minor league players. Yeah, I put way more stock in six projections than I do in meteorology

if it's more than like a week or two out. And I don't think that's that crazy. First of all, let's give an acknowledgement to Don's Bread, aka Mark Salera here in the chat, because by the way, if you're wondering what Don's Bread is, it's a Survivor reference. And I fucking know that, Mark, because I know everything about Survivor. Put it up there. One of my best friends is Sugar, get out of here. What do you think?

I don't know. Look at how happy we are together. But anyway, back to Dom's Bread's little thing of the sexiest managers. Gambling.com put out an article where they used an app called. the golden ratio face app, which apparently measures beauty based on a number of factors. And for some reason, some unknown reason, Buck Showalter has been rated the hottest manager in all of baseball. This guy, this Silver Fox, has been rated number one sexiest manager in all of baseball.

Jesse, make it make sense. I don't know if I can. No. But I think, I mean, the blue is a good look, right? The blue is a very good look for him. I mean, come on. This is a former Arizona Diamondbacks manager. This is our first guy.

So, like, we are supportive of him being up there. But come on. Let's be realistic. Like, what traits are you looking for in a sexy man? I guess that's my first question. And the reason why I asked that is because at number two is Philadelphia, Philly's manager, Rob Thompson. What the fuck happened here? How did we have such a steep drop-off from number one to number two?

I mean, I'm not even attacking him here, Jesse. You're calling this a steep drop-off. Rob Thompson, come on. I'm Rob Thompson. I'm not, look, look, I'm not questioning his managerial skills. I am questioning that man right there being one of the sexiest managers in baseball. But I will say this, at the very least, the Arizona Dibanks take two out of the top three spots because not only is Buck Show Walter, former D-Backs manager number one, but Tori Lovolo,

this hot-ass man right there, that is number three on the list. And that is correct. They got that one right. Much like the Corby and Carroll thing yesterday, that is one that they got. accurate. Tori Loewello is definitely number three, maybe number two. I don't know, but he deserves to be up there, so I am not attacking him. Put him over Rob Thompson?

I am definitely putting him over Rob Thompson, Jesse. Why is that even a question? You should be, too. Every person making a list should be doing that. And now I feel like I'm attacking Rob Thompson, but this, this damn app is causing nothing but trouble. The Golden Ratio Face app apparently uses things

like age and stuff to suggest that older men are more handsome. So obviously, this was invented by an older guy. And I'm here for it. Don't get me wrong. I am 100% here for skewing the scale in favor of us guys that are starting to get salt peppery and gray and stuff.

That's fine. Dusty Baker, 73-year-old Dusty Baker, I believe, is number six. Number six on the list. And that's fine. I'm not, like, Dusty Baker's a good look and dude. And he's aged exceptionally well. Exceptional well. Exceptional well.

But the biggest crime on this goddamn list, and we all know it. Every single one of us, every person in the D-Backs Discord, every person online. Any person that looks at this list knows that Gabe Kapler is the hottest manager in baseball. Gabe, look at this man. Let's look at this. Let's take a look. This is one picture, of course, but we look at this. Look at those eyes.

Jesse, are you kidding me? I model, I try my best to model my entire look after this man. Look at this guy. He is, he is. Are these actually just like candid like during a game photos? These are just photos. This is what he just looks like in normal life when he's not even trying to look good.

But that's not all. He also is a male model, Jesse. And I mean, that should factor in here as well. Emma, we have the one with the glasses, please. I mean, obviously, look at this. This guy isn't number one? This guy. This guy should be in every optometry office across America right there

because everybody should have those frames and trying to aspire to look like that and that fucking leather jacket. That's incredible. In what world? In what world is he not the hottest man? during baseball. It's a fair question. If I'm not mistaken, you attempted to replicate Gabe Kapler's look on several of our shows in the past. I absolutely have. Look, if you're going to aspire to be

somebody, that's the guy you aspire to look like. And I mean, of course, I'm doing my best over here, Jesse. I'm doing my fucking best, but still, uh, it's, yeah, maybe he's right. Mark says he's too good looking and maybe that's it. It's like looking at the sun. Like maybe most people can't really take in how handsome he is because they can only look at the picture for like three or four seconds. Can I give them an input? I would love your input so much. Okay, so this is an input coming from a gay woman, first of all. Second of all.

That's why this is great. Mommy? Yeah. Mommy? Yeah, right? Right? Yeah. Who the fuck?

Right, thank you. Sorry. But mommy number one. Okay. Tori. Shit. Tori number, no. No, not him.

Tori number two. Yeah. Okay. And then the other guys. Yeah, the other guys. whatever, who cares about the other guys. But shout out to Royals manager, Matt Quartaro, for being listed last because this handsome devil absolutely does not deserve to be the last manager or Mr. Irrelevant in baseball.

That was the other thing. When I looked at this list, I was like, okay, who's last? We have to come to terms with who's last. And yeah, I think he didn't deserve it. He didn't deserve it. He didn't deserve it. He didn't deserve it. And honestly, this list may, this list definitely gets it.

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Our friends from CHGO White Sox, who we have a friendly rivalry with because they called us lowly at one time and we're fucking petty. I don't know if I'd call the rivalry friendly. Really? I don't know. No?

All right. Well, they did take the division from us, so I mean, we are looking up at them still. So a little respect there, where respect is due. But on the show the other day, by the way, let's take a shout out here to Herb Lawrence for rocking the Arizona Diamondbacks hat on the show. Let's go.

The lowly Diamondbacks. Yeah, maybe this is his way of trying to make amends. I think, this is what made me think it's maybe a friendly ride for me. Maybe after her wore the DeVax hat, I guess. I guess I can grant him that. But yeah, they had a show the other day where they talked about which active MLB players should make the Hall of Fame.

And there are some hot takes. There are some hot takes on this list there. They were very friendly, I felt like, to a lot of current players. And I don't know if the Hall of Fame is going to be as friendly in the future. But let's take a look. This was the way that they kind of sorted things out, broke things down. Over here on the left side, what we are seeing are all the yes, who gets the calls in the Hall of Fame, of course. Yes, Jose Altoube is smaller than everybody else.

That is adorable. And the no on the right side. And the one thing that piqued our interest here is that Madison Bumgartner is getting the call, according to our CHGO White Sox crew. And considering that we are a little bit closer to the subject matter there, we thought we would debate this topic a bit today as to whether or not we feel like Madison Bumgarner would be qualified for the Hall of Fame. And I will allow Jesse to go first.

Jesse, you want to kick things off here? Sure. Well, first he wants to attack that Freddie Freeman thing on there because Freddie Freeman has a no. What's going on there? Where are we at with Bernie Freeman? I'm not necessarily. Are you okay with Friedrich Freeman?

I lean Freddie Freeman on the yes side. Okay. But going back to Mad Bum, Madison Bumgarner is one of the greatest postseason pitchers of all time. And there's no way getting around that. That's clear. And that is an important factor when you look at the Hall of Fame, right? I think that should be a significant factor.

So I don't want to discount that. But I will also say if you just look at Madison Bumgarner's regular season stats for his career, I think a lot of people forget how pitcher-finger. friendly AT&T Park. Now Oracle Park is and was. And the fact that all those years where Madbun was posting an ERA, you know, low threes, high twos, it's good, but it's not elite in my mind. Madison, Bumgarner at this point has a career ERA plus of 112, which basically means he's outperformally average by 12%.

It doesn't sound like a Hall of Famer to me if I'm being totally honest. And then you also have to factor in, you know, these obviously aren't, we're not in the prime of Madison and Bumgarner's career at this point. And we've seen other, you know, Albert Pujols, you know, had a number of years where he wasn't in his prime and is an obvious Hall of Famer. However, Mad Bum, I don't know if he was elite enough during his prime to make up for what's happening right now. Madison Bumgarner was one of the five or ten worst starting pitchers in baseball last year. He still has two more years on his contract with the Diamondbacks. I don't really see his career numbers improving over the next couple of years. So I don't see it if I'm being totally honest.

And I don't even know if it's that close if I'm being totally honest on this. I'm going to go in the other direction just to be contrary to you. I feel like if we both said no, that would just kind of be kicking a guy when he's down. First off, you're right about Madison, Bubbingardner's numbers. I mean, obviously there is something to be said about, his overall stats and, you know, the way that his career kind of breaks out, especially considering that, like you said, his better years are behind him. However, with that, I'm going to say this man is a four-time All-Star. True. He is a three-time World Series champion. He is a World Series MVP.

He's an NLCS MVP, two-time Silver Slugger Award winner. And of course, the bigger thing I think is that Two times silver slugger That's the best thing on his Hall of Fame resume Yes it is Two times silver slugger baby Yes it is Yes it is The bat was taken out of his hand

Far too early Far too early But I think there's something to be said About his longevity Right Twice in his career He's led the National League And starts

And he has a career now That's spanning 14 seasons I feel like I would call it more durability than longevity. Like longevity in your mind is how many innings you go in a single game maybe or something like that. No, no. Like longevity being like length of career, like being good over a long period of time.

He was good in his entire time in San Francisco. He wasn't as good in the latter years, but that's about 10 years. But at this point, like Madison Bungarner is only 32 years old. That's not that. I mean, it's old, right? In baseball terms, but it's not that old. And you'd hope that for a guy contending to be in the Hall of Fame, you're 32 years old. You still got to be.

I mean, you still got to be not at the top of your game, but you still got to be a pretty darn good pitcher in my mind. Brett says, Kershaw is longevity. Yeah, I would totally agree with that. Kershaw, less durability, right? Like the injury bug has really bitten him a lot. But he is still a really, really darn good pitcher. Madison Bumgarner is just not that guy. But show me that postseason pedigree from Kershaw.

Right. That's fair. That's fair. I mean, but they're just, I don't know. Their regular season numbers are just in two different stratosphere as far as I'm concerned. I mean, Clayton Kershaw in his career has an ERA of 2.48 compared to Mad Bum's 3.42. He has an ERA plus of 157 compared to Madbom's 112. It's just, I agree with you on the postseason thing.

No getting around that. But I don't think that makes up for as big of a difference as there is in those numbers. If you look at the innings total, Clayton Kershaw has thrown about 400 more innings than Madison Bumgarner is clear as well. Nicholas points out that Madison Bumgarner is just 33 years old, by the way. So we could easily get... Oh, 33. Yeah, last year was his age 32 season. We could get like seven more years of Madison Bumgarner potentially. I mean, the D-Backs, I don't think are going to get seven more years out of the D-Backs.

Two more years on that contract. But yeah, I mean, if Mad Bumps continues to struggle for the next year, next two years, you know, there are some other teams that are going to give him a shot. I don't think that's the end of his career necessarily unless he wants it to be. Yeah. Well, and that's the other thing is how do you factor in his rodeo career? Really? That's true.

Yeah. One other major league pitcher also has an alter ego and performs some rodeo. So, come on. I don't like the direction that this is going. He never won a Cy Young Award, but. Yeah. Mason Saunders. Mason Saunders has won plenty of roping titles.

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She does. And I think she's going to bring her own paddle. And I don't have one of those. That's intimidating. That's intimidating. Like to watch someone unzip like a paddle shape leather pouch? Yeah. Oh, if they have it in a leather pouch,

then you're really in trouble. Right. Which I probably am tonight. But, but, you know, we're just going to show up, Derek, and hope that my natural instincts that have carried me so far in my ping pong career over the year. years we'll just return.

It's almost like you shouldn't have talked this much shit about how good you are. It's almost kind of what it's like. It is sort of like that. But, you know, we're going to hope I don't regret that tonight. So again, look for Jesse. You haven't gotten your tickets yet. Look for Jesse by the hole in the fence where he'll get you in. But bring cash.

Of course, we're excited to see all of you guys there. Mark, when you practice the handshake because I'm ready for it, pal. I'm going to be very oozy tonight at the golf, excuse me, Dobson Ranch golf course. Sometimes, you know, words are hard for me. But of course, we thank you guys for being here. We thank you, of course, for always checking out the show and for giving us the wonderful topic in the Discord. You can follow us on Twitter and send us more wonderful stuff like this whenever it comes to you.

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He's right. And it's, there's only one diamond back that could potentially go into arbitration. Is that right? Yeah, at this point, I believe, yeah, I believe at this point, Zach Gallen, Christian Walker, Carson Kelly, and Kyle Lewis have all agreed to terms with the debacks avoiding arbitration. Josh Robles is the one name that I have yet to see pop up in any, in any report. So stay tuned on that.

That makes sense. He's scrappy, you know. Josh Ross isn't worried about a fight. If there is one guy on the team That's totally okay with going into a meeting Where he has to hear about how poorly the organization thinks of him It's Josh Roas Next week, Jesse and I are going to take

It's this special time of the year We're going to take advantage of it And we are going to arbitrate some stuff Things We're going to talk about the value of things And one of us is going to try to Increase the value of it And the other person is going to try to make the value plummet

Like, you know, a can of beer Or a bottle of water We're going to simulate the absurdity of the MLB arbitration process. Make sure to join us for our arbitration conversations next week. But as always, we thank you guys for being here now. We hope to see so many of you tonight out at the Tea Party. And of course, on behalf of Emma, Jesse and myself, we thank you so much for your time. And remember, kids, baseball is fun, but it's so much more fun when you have to argue about the value of your own worth.