PHNX Arizona Diamondbacks Podcast - Should the Diamondbacks want the Braves or the Phillies in the NLCS?

Episode Date: October 12, 2023

The Arizona Diamondbacks wagon continues to roll after sweeping the Los Angeles Dodgers in the NLDS. We recap the celebration from last night, discuss the MLB playoff structure again, and look at history the D-backs have made in the postseason. We also discuss the contentious series between the Phillies and the Braves and who we would want to see the Snakes take on in the NLCS.An ALLCITY Network ProductionSUBSCRIBE to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/phnx_youtubeALL THINGS PHNX: http://linktr.ee/phnxsports PHNX Events: Get your tickets to D-backs Takeovers, Knockout Nights & Suns Watch Parties at BetMGM, and MORE here: https://www.eventbrite.com/o/phnx-56002330273 Join Team PHNX for the Out of the Darkness Community Walk: https://supporting.afsp.org/team/32459WIN MONEY THROUGH SPLASH SPORTS: https://www.splashsports.com/phnx Go to https://saturdayneon.com and use code PHNX for 10% off your order today. Free shipping for orders over $200!Download the DROPS by SoleSavy app by visiting https://links.solesavy.com/phnxGametime: Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code PHNX for $20 off your first purchase.Pins & Aces: Check out https://pinsandaces.com and use code PHNX to receive 15% off your first order and get free shipping.Circle K: Text PHNX to 31310 to join the Circle K SMS subscriber club and get BOGO 32 oz Polar Pops! Head to https://www.circlek.com/store-locator to find Circle Ks near you!OGeez!: Score 25% off a bag of your favorite OGeez! Fruits of Creams. Go to https://theflowershopusa.com, add a bag of OGeez! to your cart, enter promo code “PHNX” and pickup at a local The Flower Shop dispensary.Four Peaks: Follow them on social @fourpeaksbrew & @fourpeakspub! Must be 21+. Enjoy responsibly. When you shop through links in the description, we may earn affiliate commissions. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome in to another edition of the PHNX Keybacks podcast right here on PHNX. My name is Derek Montia, and I am still a little hungover from last night. I'm still your mayor, though, of not only PHNX, but of the postseason. And I got these two guys backing me up today. They did a little less drinking last night than I did because they had work to do. But they still got plenty of champagne sprayed on them. Of course, I'm joined by my tag team partner over here, the one and only Patrick Lines, and my vice mayor and your thunder stick,

the returning Jesse Friedman, who I feel like I haven't seen in studio in eight months. It's been a while. Have you been drinking enough water? You're drinking coffee. You know what? I have to give a shout out to Patrick because he was literally like running water errands for me yesterday. That's a boy. I'm sure I stayed hydrated during the game.

So we'll keep this guy around because I know he can watch you when I'm unable to. But Jesse Jr., of course, he missed you very much. He's grown a mustache since you left and things have gotten weird. They grow up so quick. up so quick. Boys, what a win last night for the Arizona Diamondbacks. I know you guys were both there present and I know you guys both kind of gotten to witness this crazy run this team has been on. I don't know if I've ever seen anything as crazy as that third inning last night with those four home runs hit. I know a lot of people are still talking about the Gabriel Moreno home run where

I think it was Andrew McCutcheon that tweeted out. I've never seen someone hit a foul home run and then just come back to hit a real home run in the next, you know, in the next pitch or the next two. I don't know if it was the next pitch. I think it was a few bitches later. No, it was a very next pitch. That was what Tori said is like you see it in Little League and you're like, it never happens. Yeah. As soon as you hit one foul, you're like, it's impossible to do it.

Yeah, do it again. I'm sure it's happened, second, third, fourth pitch. Sure. But literally the next pitch? Yeah. What? Especially in that instance where there was a question of whether or not it was foul and they had to go back and review it. You had Gabby already come back to the dugout.

and then he had to come back in to go back in up to the plate. He ran around the bases entirely. Yeah. We were watching the clips highlights last night and Lance Lynn's reaction or non-reaction, when Moreno hit the real one, he just like looked down, didn't look at it at all. He was like, I am so toast. Yeah. Why didn't Dave Roberts take me out?

Why am I in this game? This is awful. His reaction was pretty good. Yeah. Well, the Dodgers definitely have a lot of things, a lot of questions. to answer today and I mean that organization definitely you know definitely has has some issues I mean they're the second 100 win team to never once hold a lead an entire playoff round that comes from ESPN Aldine Gonzalez like that's crazy that is like to never hold a lead once and I mean obviously

you know we know they had the buy but like you know you go this 162 game season you play so well you get to this record. And then again, this, you know, we get to these playoffs. And the Braves, they're struggling as well with the Philadelphia Phillies who are kind of in the same role as the Diamondbacks where they never stopped playing baseball. They just kind of kept playing. And even though it's absurd how many games these teams have under their belt now at this point, it almost once again seems like the right answer is to never stop playing baseball,

you know? Obviously with the Dodgers, though, there's a lot of disappointment over there. Los Angeles right now. There's a lot of disappointment. And I think Bill Shakin, writer for the LA Times, wrote a story today about, you know, what exactly, who exactly is to blame for the way that the Dodgers performed in the series. And he made it very clear in his column, which I agree with, you cannot blame the layoff for this. You cannot blame, you know, the fact that the Dodgers, you know, didn't play for five days or whatever it is.

There's this thing called the All-Star Break in baseball. And I'm told that teams are. expected to like still be able to play baseball when they come back. I've heard that. That's like a four day break as well, right, Monday through Thursday. So yeah, there's there's really no excuse for that in my mind. And I think it's going to be the same now for the Diamondbacks. They're in a similar position, right?

They played yesterday. They're the game one of the NLCS is not until Monday. That's a full four days, Thursday through Sunday that the Diamondbacks are not going to be playing a competitive game. And if the D-backs come out flat on Monday, the same goes for them, right? The Diamondbacks can't come out flat on Monday just because they have this four-day period of time off. These are professional athletes. They deal with a lot of adversity.

This is a really hard sport to play. And I just don't think that that's a valid excuse for the way that the Dodgers performed in this series. Freddie Freeman, his comments yesterday, which if you play it back multiple times, kind of like Zuproo film, you're like, wait, am I seeing something? You know, he kind of just ended with saying, you know, three games, three games. like yeah we didn't do it you know they were combined what one for 21 they were okay fredi freman yeah like a handful of walks like nothing they they were they went the one hit was an infield single yeah so so they didn't get it done but i think the thing that freddie freeman was kind of holding on to three games and like okay yeah but that's just kind

of how the the setup is and and you can tweak the format all you want but you got to win the games and things are going to happen we've also really only had this format for a very short amount of time So with the small sample size, wild things can happen. And I imagine over a long period of time, the better team ends up winning more times than not. People point to the Astros last year who had that layoff and they went all the way to the World Series. They didn't seem to bother them one bit. We also have the Braves who, again, they're struggling with the Phillies, but the Phillies are a good team. I don't know if that's an indictment of the Braves time off or if it's just a matter of these two teams or rivals.

And they weren't really that far off during the season. We know the Braves have a more complete team, but we do know that the Phillies have the edge when it comes to, like, I guess experience, right? I mean, they just have more experienced guys. I want to say this about the Dodgers because I love a chance to bury, especially David Peralta, after what he said in regards to Chase Field and everything like that. But if you want to talk about why the Dodgers lost this series, Jesse, you told us, and we joked about this, but this is an actual thing that happened, that you saw at one point the Dodgers. Rogers choreographing dance routines essentially or practicing the little dance that David Peralta did on base. The dance he did on base when they were down, I believe, nine to nothing in game one that

he just couldn't wait to do because they just practiced it. So they had to fit it in like the Savannah Banana somewhere, right? And I really feel like that could just be an example of the way that the Dodgers prepared for this series, their mindset coming in against this Diamondback's team, those arrogant comments about Chase Field being like Dodger Stadium East all of that stuff combined makes me feel like the Diamondbacks took

this more seriously. They were better prepared and they were out there like Ryan Thompson said playing every game like it was their last game versus the Dodgers that kind of played it like all right well you know we lost game one but it's all going to fall in the place for us in game two and beyond. Yeah I mean

I think the Dodgers the Dodgers are such a good regular season team and they have been for so long, right? I think they're a team that has, they've got the marathon thing figured out, right? The Dodgers are going to, I mean, you can pretty much mark it down every year. You can put it in Penn before the season even starts. The Dodgers are going to win 100 games or close to it basically every single season.

But that mindset that allows you to win 100 games is not the same mindset that allows you to succeed in the postseason. Correct. And, you know, Dave Roberts took responsibility for that after the series was over. And yeah, I don't know. I don't necessarily want to place blame on the Dodgers for coming out and taking the debacks for granted or not being well prepared, not doing their homework. I don't know if we really have evidence that that happened, but we do have evidence that the Dodgers just are really struggling in these high leverage moments that really matter. It's a sprint in the playoffs.

It's not a marathon. And they just haven't figured it out yet for whatever reason. Is this the year that Dave Roberts finally gets blamed for that? Because he feels like the common thread there when it comes. to this lack of success that the Dodgers are able to have in the postseason. I mean, Lance Lynn isn't good, man.

There were some people in the press box commenting, like, this is the year that Dave Roberts is actually going to pay the price for this. And I'm just looking out there watching Lance Lynn pitch, and I'm like, I just don't know. I mean, the Dodgers needed starting pitching help at the trade deadline and their solution was a guy with a six and a half ERA.

Exactly. And you're going to put the blame for that on the manager. I mean, this is just a roster that was decimated with injuries. This is not, you know, this is not the same team that got the Dodgers to this point. Yeah. And not just injuries. Like I said, again, losing who is a huge thing for them, right? So, but I mean, again, it's fair.

I think it's fair like that saying, hey, is this a year that they go in a different direction? But to your point, Jesse, I think Dave Roberts is the National League manager of the year. Look at this roster. For what he was able to do through all of those injuries and shortcomings at the roster. Yeah. I think it's almost like a slam dunk. this is probably his finest work. I mean, going into the season, the roster is already flawed,

but you go, they'll be fine. It's the Dodgers. No, Sindegard, watch. He's going to go out and get some Syong Award votes like Tyler Anderson did the year prior, and that isn't what happened at all. And he's still able to navigate that team. I'm kind of wondering if these higher seeded teams, the number one and two seed teams, how they haven't been playing well.

I'm wondering if this new format is forcing them to play harder, deeper into the year. because, hey, you want that first round by. You want to rest and recover. So go out there and keep winning ball games in the middle and late in parts of September. And then, you know, that has an impact when you get to the postseason. And so I mean, the Dodgers were pretty well insulated from their competition, though. At least, I mean, I guess them versus the Braves. Right.

They were maybe in the running for that up until like the last week or so of the season. But I don't know, like where the Brewers going to catch the Dodgers and get the first round by, probably not. No. Our favorite Algerian fan, Jagurtha is here. Jigurtha said, I'm no longer scared. The D-Baks proved that they can beat every team of the MLB. Go D-BX. Love that attitude. One thing to say in regards to giving the Dodgers credit from last night is that things would have been different potentially at the ending of that game at Dodgers Stadium.

Because Chris Taylor's home run or not home run, his deep wild. It was a home run. Would have been a home run in a lot of ballparks around baseball. That could be said for a lot of fly balls. I feel like this has really been magnified in like the last two weeks. I love that. Especially that Astro series that we finished the year with. The center field at Chase Field, like, let's be honest here.

It's kind of dumb. It's stupid. I mean, there's a meme going around, right? I'm sure everyone's seen it. Like, Chase Field laughs at your 440 foot home run to straightaway center field. You can literally hit a ball 440 feet to straightaway center and it won't go out of the ballpark. It will not be a home run.

I think Chris Taylor's shot. yesterday was like 408. Yeah. Something like that. It would have been, it would have dinged in 22 of 30 major league ballparks, including Dodger Stadium. It would have tied the game. It would have tied the game.

But it didn't. And there was another fly ball. Who was, who hit the ball that to Gurriel? Was it Will Smith? Yeah. Yeah. And it was right in that little notch.

That was 28 out of 30. Yeah. You know, it's only, you know, Chase Field. And then obviously we're at Camden Yards where they've got that big notch out in left field. Well, you can't help but feel like everything was going,

the Diamondbacks way, not only last night, but in this series, right? They won two close games. They had that absolute beatdown of the Dodgers in game one. And just everything about this felt like those little things. You know, like we've talked at times where the Diamondbacks were on the other side of that, where everything felt like it was not going their ways. So now to see in a big series like this in a playoff series,

the ball bouncing the Diamondbacks away, it was just, it was nice, right? But the ball didn't bounce the Diamondbacks way in this series necessarily. The ball, the ball was in the seats. The Diamondbacks hit nine home runs in the series. The Dodgers hit one. The Diamondbacks outscored. The ball was bouncing off the backs of seat in the left and right field. The Diamondbacks outscored the Dodgers 19 to 6, I think it was in the series.

I mean, I think I actually look back at the numbers. I think you guys actually underestimated. So I ran the numbers this morning. I'm pretty sure the Dodgers starting pitching ERA was 25.07. This guy made a clerical error in there I don't think he was 20.6 error So yeah like He couldn't help himself

Could he dare? He couldn't I'm sorry Who's the secretary? Who's the secretary of PHNX? Actually It's 20.7.8. We know Derek has someone else

doing these calculations for him. It's our social media admin. That's who I have do that stuff. He's not very good with math. Statistical intern. Yeah. But yeah. You're right though.

They put it to them in this series. And I don't mean to say that. I just mean like the two games, four to two games, both of those games felt like at times the Dodgers had a comeback kind of on a roll. Could have gone a different way. Right. And I mean, obviously it could have gone a different way if the Diamondbacks weren't able to go up, you know, first because who knows how that would have impacted them. It really felt like putting up the runs early was important. It really felt like at times the Dodgers were kind of, if this was a race, they were catching up.

But they never, they never caught up and came parallel. And even when they would get close, the Diamondbacks would somehow get some sort of boost and just and create that distance, right? That third inning yesterday was just one of the most electric things I've ever seen. And of course, we're going to go to our guy that gives us the greatest quotes right now from the Arizona Diamondbacks Clubhouse. We're going to go to our guy, Tio Mackey, getting us a quote from Tommy Fam. Here is his reaction to the four home runs. And I'm going to go ahead and read this quote. he said, Domo got one and I was like, hell yeah.

And Marte crushed one and I was like, hell yeah. Seawok blasted one. And I'm like, damn. Then Moreno hit the foul ball. And I'm like, ah, damn. Very next pitch, he blast one. And I'm like, hell yeah. We read that last night and we were cracking.

Tommy Fab is the quote. Tommy Fam is a national treasure and I want him to never change. When Patrick read it to me, I didn't, I didn't believe that was real. Patrick is a Patrick's a pretty funny guy And I was convinced that he was pulling my leg in this moment And then he showed that's how good it was like It was 10 out of 10 when I talked to him

He had the same like good vibes Yeah And talking about the roster's like we got dogs Yeah Like I was like oh wow Tommy fan was just like full of quotes I know but see you know what I will say something about someone like Tommy fam

Is There is a certain amount of of nastiness. And that might not even be the word. Just toughness. Like just having an attitude, having a chip on your shoulder. That honestly,

we've been around this Diamondbacks team. They're a nice bunch of guys. They really are. They're sweet. They're wholesome. They're nice. And they need somebody like Tommy Fam on the top step of the dugout

calling them a bitch. They need someone like Tommy Fam, absolutely riding them in the clubhouse and giving them the business. And, you know, because I've heard already about that, that Tommy fam likes to tell his apparently likes to tell his teammates that they ain't shit. And like that is such a funny character building thing.

That's such a thing that like I don't know. It just feels like the way Tommy fam is brings that edge to this team that has been so important during a postseason playoff run. It just it makes you feel confident. It makes you feel like you can do anything because he's the kind of guy that'll look you as a teammate in the face and tell you that there ain't there's nothing that we can't accomplish. She's going to say it way more colorfully than that.

Yeah. but he's going to throw, you know, he's going to throw something at you that's going to inspire you. He just seems like that kind of guy that just always can get his teammates like fired up in a different way. Like going out there and be like, yeah, let's go. That's one thing. In the right environment, that's perfect. And I think that was an ingredient that the diamondbacks need. And I think Sam needs the diamondbacks because he's very comfortable in that club.

Like he just seems like from some of the things that I've heard in various interactions. And again, you know, Tommy Fam has a certain track. record, but he looks very comfortable. Like, yeah, this is, this is part of, this is now my family. Like, yeah, I feel really comfortable here. And so it's, he's a cool ass uncle. He's a perfect mix. Yeah, it's a perfect mix.

But they made a lot of history tonight or last night. I know someone asked about it. There was any word on Gabby Moreno, JBLC 88 asked. So far is so good. They said that the x-rays came back negative last night. Yeah. They said it was a right-hand contusion. Obviously, we know how much Gabby-Marine.

means to this team, Jesse. Any scare with Corby or Gabby right now still has that like, oh, it's over for us kind of feeling. And it's always those two guys, man. It's always those two guys. No one else on this team gets hurt except for, I know there are exceptions. But yeah, I mean, I said it on on our post game show last night. Like we've had, there have been a lot of injury scares this year for Corby and for Gabby Moreno. Right.

There was a moment in spring training where Gabby Moreno took a pitch on a hand or the wrist, something in that area. And it was concerning. I remember Tori Lavello being concerned about it in the moment. It wasn't an immediate, oh, it's a contusion, x-rays negative, everything's okay. There was some concern with that situation. And of course, Carson Kelly wound up going down before the season started as well. It would have been a potentially disaster situation for the Diamondbacks.

But he wound up healthy then. And, you know, there have been a couple scares during the season. You know, the concussion, what appeared to be a concussion in Milwaukee, that situation wound up turning out okay. And, you know, of course, Corbyn Carroll has had. a number of injury scares as well. So Diamondbacks have had some good injury luck this season, and that has certainly helped them get to the point that they're out right now. Props to Jose Herrera for stepping in, both in Milwaukee as well as last night.

After the back swing incident. And again, when you're the back of catcher, you can be somewhat of a caddy, but like, okay, he has that value. So he shouldn't get overlooked for his contributions in Milwaukee as well as last night. We also got to see Payvon Smith get a pinch hit opportunity in a huge playoff game. and he walked. He walked, which is exactly. Exactly.

It's so unbranded, right? It's amazing. But Percerra Langez, Gabriel Moreno now is the first catcher with three plus home runs in a single postseason at age 23 or younger. So he has created MLB history. And this team is doing things. Obviously, that is just incredible. Again, Percera, Heraldo, Pardomo, Corbyn Carroll, Gabriel Moreno, and Alec Thomas. The D-backs are the third team in postseason history.

with four players aged 23 or younger with a home run in a single post season. They joined the 2020 Atlanta Braves and the 2015 Chicago Cubs, two teams that you very much are okay with being compared to. And they both won the World Series the next year. Yeah, the next year, correct. Wow. And that's honestly, I mean, that's one thing that you could be tremendously excited about is the future. Break the trend. Do it this year. Yeah, break the trend.

But it's like it is. It's like we keep talking about, I feel, at least me, you know, about. what this postseason run means for this team that is here ahead of schedule, what this means for this young team, these young guys that are doing it. And you get these numbers a lot. The whole 23 years are younger. And it's Corbyn and it's Alec and it's all these guys doing it. You also have Catelle, who now with his two hits through seven innings,

Catell was the D-Back's all-time leader in postseason hits among second baseman, passing Craig counsel. So there's a guy that's you're okay with passing. This is a Catell's 30th birthday, by the way. Today. Happy birthday, Cotell. He's been around forever. He's another guy that has that little bit of swagger.

Like, Little bit. Obviously. Little bit. He wasn't as much of a bat flip yesterday from him, but it was fucking swagger. His bat flip, yeah, kind of underrated, had more revolutions. We got to get some kind of graphic to. Yeah, we're going to do some scientific breakdowns on the bat flip.

The bat flip. How far it was from home? How many revolutions? All of that. But just, I love that. I thought that was an iconic home run standing there with the, the wide leg, split leg stance. there after the home run. He almost wanted to cross his arms like Randy Riveray. Tommy fam love that one. He's like, that's the one that he remembers because he was on deck.

But Marte, man, he's been great this postseason. Great. Is it a nine game postseason hitting streak now for him or is it, it did increase it to 10? That I don't know. Yeah. He extended his postage. He was one of a few players back in 2017 who really showed up for the Diamondbacks in that postseason. Even in that Dodgers series, the debacks, you know, when the debacks got swept in the NLDS that year, until Marte was was really solid in that series. And I think that was a kind of a really big series for him as he kind of emerged into being

more than just like a nice little player up the middle. The two triples in the wildcard game was kind of his coming out part. Yeah. Yeah. And he was there. It is a nine game hitting streak and it is actually a franchise record for the postseason. His batting average in the postseason, obviously just 17 and this year, 359 batting average. OPS

1.093, 1.093. Like Catelle Marte, he's a dog in October. He absolutely is. Arf, arf. Arf. We're without Damon dog today. We got Faj here, though.

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You are a sociopath. You're an absolute sociopath. You've ordered pizza with just olives? Thin crust olives. I mean, I'll eat olives by themselves, but that's a bit psychotic. That's a bit psychotic. Not cool, dude. I thought we had something.

Not cool. Wow. I open up like this. I'm not coming back. See, Nicholas says olive oil, though, the only problem for use of olives. There he goes. I'm with it on that. All right.

We can all agree on all of oil. All right. But something I don't know if we can't all agree on is who we want to see the Arizona Diamondbacks take on next in the NLCS because they are two juggernauts over there duking it out right now, literally duking it out, they're getting in fights over things they're saying in each other, they got a real rivalry going on,

and of course, who do we want to see? The Braves or the Phillies? Can all of us agree? Can all of us agree? Oh my gosh. Just get out. Just get out. We've already proved that Jesse Jr. can take over in that seat. First, and you have to give me a ski on the way out. but let's talk about this because obviously we have the Atlanta Braves who at this point,

we know we're the best team in baseball record-wise. They were the best team in baseball as far as performance goes in a lot of categories. But their pitching this year was not what it has been in the past because I know that's been a strength of theirs as well over the last few seasons. And with injuries and some other just kind of regression that they had, the Braves pitching wasn't the superior pitching staff it's been. Yeah, not really. And here in the postseason, it hasn't been great for them. You know, obviously they're down two games to one in the NLDS to the Philadelphia Phillies right now.

And a big part of that has been Spencer Strider is great on his game doing his thing. Max Freed has been dealing with a blister issue, I believe. He did not look good in his one start that he's made in the playoffs. And Bryce Elder had a really brutal second half of the season after being an All-Star. And he really got hammered in his start. as well. So the Braves kind of have one starting pitcher right now that I think they can, they can really rely on, whereas the Diamondbacks have two. And ultimately, I think that's what this comes down to for me is, would you rather face Spencer Strider and, you know, the rest of

those Braves starting pitchers, or would you rather face, you know, Zach Wheeler and Aaronola? And, you know, I think the Phillies have a better bullpen as well. For me, I think as crazy as it is to say, the team that won 104 games, the team that had the best record in the regular season of any team in baseball. The team that had basically the best offense in major league history, you could argue. They slugged over 500 as a team in the regular season, which still blows my mind. It's crazy. But a lot of, you know, a lot of what it comes down to in the postseason is who's hot at the right

time. And I think the Braves have like, granted, it's been three games, but I think the Braves have like a 550 OPS so far in those three games that they played against the Phillies. They're not really hitting right now. And, you know, both of these offenses are really dynamic. but if you can catch the Braves at a time where the offense isn't really clicking. I guess if they were to come back and win these next two games, maybe it would be at that point. But from what we've seen so far, the offense has not been anything like what it's been in the regular season.

Charlie Morton, the loss of him obviously was, I think, heard Atlanta, so they might get him back in the league championship series. But does he move the needle all that much? I think part of the element of this, too, is you talk about catching teams at the right time. time time is of the essence we're talking about the the potential uh you know downside of this layoff for the diamondbacks well if philadelphia can win tonight then both teams basically are they have got the same downtime like diamondbacks have one x today so that kind of i think levels of the playing field so in that way you go all right if you want to cherry pick atlanta okay maybe they're they're they're they're not as good but they're going to be a little bit hotter they're

going to have a little bit more momentum because they're going to have one at home in atlanta and they're going to start there as well. Whereas if you have Philadelphia, sure, you're going to probably get Nola and Wheeler four times in that series in Philadelphia, which I think has been a little bit more hostile than Atlanta. And the Phillies have a great record at Citizens Bank ballpark in the postseason since that building was erected.

But both teams have the same layoff, and I think that might level the playing field all the more for Arizona. Well, let's take a look at the Atlanta Braves numbers from this season because again they were very very good number one and run differential at plus 231 they had that 104 win season came into you know even though they were kind of coasting there at the end they still finished seven and three in their final 10 games of the regular season but this is where we were talking about the starting pitching era and relief pitching era just kind of being middle of the pack right I mean there's the 11 their relief their bullpen era a little bit above average starting pitching era just slightly below but it's that 8.000 845 OPS. And I mean, we talked about the Phillies being an offensive, a potent offensive team. But this Braves team really was the best offense in baseball this season. Yeah. Now they might, you know, they might be taking a little while to get things going against the Phillies.

But maybe once, you know, if this series does go five, you know, maybe once they're there, they got things rolling, you know, and that's, that's not the greatest. You know, you don't want this team that was able to perform this well during the regular season. to get hot and right before they face the Diamondbacks. Pitching wins in the postseason. It really does. So if Atlanta doesn't necessarily have that. I feel like that's been sort of a debate on this show the last couple weeks.

Well, historically, that is it. Like good pitching beats good hitting. But I think historically we've also seen research where good offense like correlates with with better postseason performance than good pitching does. Yeah, because we were. We were talking about it with the Brewers. Yeah, because we were, this was the debate with the burers or the Phillies like which one wanted to see. Right. Yeah. And obviously losing, you know, one of their three guys and Brandon Woodruff drastically changed that three game series. But the Diamondbacks still had to face in the two games, Freddie Peralta and Corbyn Burns. And those are still part of that. They're still very tough pitchers that those are the guys. I mean, it would have probably been Brandon Woodruff instead of Freddie Peralta. But the results could have been the same. My thing was the Diamondback's offense was not very good closing out the season. And you were mixing that with, you know, going up against a potentially the best three-man.

rotation in baseball. Somehow the Diamondbacks woke up, got on a roll, and have just stayed hot offensively so far this postseason the whole entire time. But the same could be said about the Philadelphia Phillies. Now Brave starters against DeBacks this year, pretty decent success. I mean, Spencer Strider in his first start in June, six innings pitch, three hits, two earn runs, four walks, seven Ks. In July, he went six innings, gave up four hits, four earn runs, one walk, but 13Ks against

the Diamondbacks on that one. So Spencer Strider just continues to be very good against this team. I think wasn't that the day that Gallin and Strider had like dueling no hitters or something for like five or six a thing? And then all of a sudden I think the D-Back's got straighter for like a couple of home runs and then and that's also the day where

it felt like during that, that was during the dark times where it literally felt like Zach Gallin could go out there and literally pitch a no hitter almost and somehow you know things still wouldn't go their way but I mean we haven't seen Max Fried this year

but he did throw seven consecutive innings last year against the Diamondbacks on July 31st, seven scoreless innings. And of course Elder on July 18th went two and two thirds innings, gave up seven hits, seven runs, five earned one walk four K's. So, you know, I mean the Diamondbacks

again, you can look at these past performances. I don't even know if this is the same Diamondbacks team anymore that it was in July and in June. But again, they've had success at times against the brave starters. But Philadelphia, they've been very good against the Diamondbacks. And I still remember that series that we played against them, that it, like we were riding on a high at the time.

This was when the wagon was strong and new and rolling. And the Phillies absolutely smacked the Diamondbacks back down to Earth at the time. But let's take a look at their numbers from this regular season because, again, they're also a very dangerous team. These NL East teams, man, I mean, they're, they had the Diamondbacks number this year. 90 and 72 for their record, plus 81 run differential. They came into the final 10 games, 7 and 3. Starting pitching the RA, again, middle of the pack, 4.30, literally, league average.

Relief pitching, 3.58, the 7th best in Major League Baseball. Good bullpen. Good bullpen, good OPS 765, so another good, very, very good offensive team, sixth in baseball. But offensive runs saved minus 30, 26th in baseball. You love to see it. You love to see it because you love to see sloppy play. And you know that the Diamondbacks are just a very, very good defensive team. So when it comes to making mistakes in the postseason

and potentially matching up with the Phillies, the Diamondbacks could have an advantage there when it comes to just how good this team has been on the defensive side of things. Yeah, I think the Debacks played both teams pretty tough in the regular season. Did they win both season series? No, the Dbacks were three and four against the Phillies. They were three against the Braves.

And that three and three against the Braves is almost a little deceiving because two of those games were blown right at the very end. The D-BACs were very close to being five-and-one against the Braves this season theoretically. I believe one of those games, they lost 8 to 5. That was the season finale of that first series back in June. We've talked about this game a decent amount. That's when Miguel Castro gave up a grand slam to,

I think it was Eddie Rosario, if I'm not mistaken. So that turned a potential 5-4 win into an 8-5 loss. That's how that game ended. D-Backs had a chance to win that series. And then in Atlanta, when the D-BACs got the Braves the second time, they almost swept the series. They were very close to sweeping that series. And that was another game where I believe Miguel Castro had some rough things happen late in that one. The Braves scored four runs in the bottom of the eighth of that series finale and ultimately won that game seven to five.

So, and this is something that Zach Gallin said yesterday when I asked about, you know, the Braves and the Phillies, how you're feeling about these teams? He said we played those teams tough. Like we can hang with those teams. I agree. I think the debacks proved that against the Braves. They also, you know, even though the debacks went three and four in the regular season against the Phillies, there was another kind of a heartbreaker in there. I believe we were doing, I don't remember if we were doing a watch-along for that game. Was this the JT. Real Muto game?

This was the Trey Turner game. Oh, the Trey Turner. Yeah, we label all the Philly games, by the way. The infill. Oh, yeah. Wasn't it you, Jesse, that said Trey Turner's been so bad this year? No, it was one Sean DePos. It was Sean DePos.

Who moments before Trey Turner hit a game time to run home run, he made a comment that, yeah, maybe he shouldn't have. And the Phillies came back and won that game an extra inning. So that, you know, if the debacks were able to pull that game out, then that flips to four and three in the regular season. Granted, the debacks haven't played the Phillies since May, I think. That's true. So it's been a long time.

And the Phillies were not in a good place at that time. So, yeah, the debacks hung with, hung with both. of these teams in the regular season. None of this matters, I don't think. None of this regular season stuff matters at all because all of these teams are different now. That's fair. Honestly, like the Braves, for instance, their depths doesn't really come into play nearly as much right now. Like maybe it would if they had injuries and they and they do, right?

So they still have good players that they can go out there and put a competitive team on the, on the field, even though they are missing key members of their lineup and of their starting rotation. But again, the Diamondbacks, we're just, the diamond backs might quite possibly be the team that is built best for some of these playoff situations. I know they don't have a great option when it comes to a fourth starting pitcher, which they will absolutely need in the series regardless of who they play. But at the same time, like, man, I just can't help but feel like I just don't know how much that matters with the fact that we saw the Dodgers pitchers doing what they did, including the legendary Clayton Kershaw who couldn't get more than one out.

his outing, right? So it's like it almost feels like if we could get a bullpen game where somebody goes out there and gives them two innings of one run baseball that you're like, that's a win at this point, especially considering that this team right now is, it's trying to patch it together as far as that, you know, starting rotation. And they're trying to do some creative things. Tori's definitely managing this team in a way that like we discussed last night. We've never seen a manage before. However, it does seem to be very effective in the playoffs. I did want to answer Cogs question because he asked a little while ago. The minus 30 defensive runs saved by the Phillies,

he wanted to know how much of that is Trey Turner. Negative 12 of those defensive runs saves are Trey Terners. Negative 12 defensive runs saved this season for Trey Turner. One of the worst in baseball. In fact, there's only a handful of players that had worse seasons defensively, including Jose Altuve, who had a minus 13 defensive run saving. Jerks and ProFar was really bad in left field for the Rockies. You can't blame, you can't blame Jose.

He just can't get to the baseball. Well, the real one is Kyle Schwerber. He's minus 21. Yeah. So Kyle Schwerber is the age. That's the actual guy. Because I think Schwerber is minus 21. Trey Turner is minus 12.

As a team, they were minus 30. Yeah. And those two guys combined for minus 33. So it's like all the negative value, I guess, comes from those guys. It might be skewed. It might be skewed a little bit. I think the reliever numbers, too, for the Phillies are, in a sense, skewed going into the series only because Philly's bullpen was had the 30th most innings in baseball.

So like they're rested. Like they're in a really good spot there. They're in a really good shape. And the D-Backs bullpen is really strong right now. But as much rest as you can give them as possible is going to be great. So a bullpen game not ideal, maybe, you know, Bryce Jarvis and Ryan Nelson can combine to give you four innings if they go back to back. Brandon Fotz's value or his performance in more than like. game three, I think, is going to be...

You might not be... You might not be pulling him at 42 pictures. You might not. Yeah. You might not be pulling him at that one. Especially if he's only given up two hits and no runs. Like, yeah. I get it. You're trying to build still on his confidence, though. And I feel like not only is this a matter of that, but it might, like we discussed, it might also be the fact that Tori is trying to play the long game here. We know he's very good when it comes to trying to save guys energy and trying to make sure that they are ready to play

you know, even even when this team was very bad in seasons, he was still managing guys time off. Like there was a possibility that they could make the postseason and they would need these guys. Like he does not change from doing that. And I think that that might be a lot of what we're seeing here because of what the bullpen allows him to do. He has that much confidence in the bullpen that he feels that he has

the freedom to kind of, you know, pull someone like Brandon fought earlier. And I'm honestly even Zach Gallin and Merrill Kelly. Like no matter how good those guys are, It feels like he doesn't shy away from pulling them the minute they get in any kind of trouble so that not only can he preserve them, but I also preserve, I think, their confidence a bit because they need to remain, you know, they need to remain in a position where they think that they are absolute killers and that they're going to get this done every single night. It's easy to get your confidence shaken by, you know, a good outing all of a sudden turning on you. Yeah, that's a really good point. I mean, you know, I think the way that Tori has managed is maybe a little controversial. obviously it's worked, which I guess makes it less controversial.

It does. People are probably pretty on board given the results. Given the results. Given the results so far. But I think that is a really good point that in managing the way that Tori has, he hasn't really allowed anyone to have this terrible moment, right? Like Ryan Nelson, things were really blowing up for him there. And I believe that was game one against the Brewers.

He gave up like three consecutive hits to start an inning. And boom, Tori's in there and goes to get him. And that situation didn't ever. escalate as a result of that. And you go up and down the debacks roster. I'm not sure there's any one player that you could point to who has had, you know, some kind of big moment where things really, you know, backed up on them. And, you know, you feel like that, that might be a reason why this team is as confident as it is right now. And it's completely different from the way he managed during the regular season, right? Because his philosophy at times was the opposite. This philosophy at the time,

we would have us as fans screaming, why aren't you going to take this guy out of the game when Tori's leaving a reliever in or perhaps even a starter. And you can just tell that there is an amount of like trying to, trying to work on stuff. Like the regular season, even though those games matter, are also times for guys to continue their development, even when they're major league ballplayers.

And a lot of guys on this team are still very young. So even if they have been in the, you know, in the majors for a few years, there's still development. They're still Brent Strom trying to coach you up. They're still trying to get you to believe in yourself. And in some cases,

that's the difference. That could be what makes someone like Ryan Thompson be able to do what he's done for this team when obviously he wasn't viewed at one point as an important enough piece of the race organization for them to keep him on. It seems crazy what he's given the Diamondbacks for any team

to have parted ways with him. If the Diamondbacks would have acquired him through some sort of trade, we would be saying how great that trade was as good as the Seawald trade, right? Because we love Paul Seawald. We jump around for Paul Seawald. apparently you guys do jump we do we do we have Paul Cwalt's

tweet by the way because this is what makes me love Paul Cewald even more just him doing a cannonball with David greater than Goliath just beautiful I have never seen a player adapt maybe Tommy fam too I've just never seen

guys come to a team and become such a part of the team as I've seen with fam and CWald but it's just been incredible and of course you know those guys Big reason why the Diamondbacks are sitting here in this position right now. Yeah, Paul Sewell was, he was feeling good last night too, knowing that, you know, this time last year, he was, you know, coughing up games for the Mariners, you know, in that Blue Jay series. Yeah, that was like such a big turnaround for him to do that.

And what was the quote last night, Jesse, where he was just like, yeah, I wasn't even sure myself that this was going to happen. Last night was a close game. They got the four home runs and you go, ah, they're dust in the wind. It was a close game where anything could have happened at the end. And even Seawald wasn't sure what was going to happen at the night. Yeah, his quotes sounded like he was like a pessimistic fan. Yeah. Like someone in this office or something.

He literally said, and I'm paraphrasing, but he basically said, I didn't feel good about this game until the very last pitch. We didn't either. I was not going to win this game. I didn't feel like we were going to win this game until the game was over, right? It took us a long time to get on air yesterday because we were, we were so like engaged and locked in that we forgot we had work to do. We were watching just like all of you guys were And we had no idea what was going to happen We got PHLY in the chat

Welcome you guys by the way Hope to see you guys soon as well We got we got some we got hey hey hey hey I was in their chat with the pH and X sports Account okay The name of one of the first games that they played in the playoffs I said hopefully we'll see you guys soon And the host said we hope so too

You'll make our path easier Oh wow It's on Renee and Jamie come on Yeah, who said it. Renee or Jamie. Be better than that. I think it was Jamie.

Oh, I'm telling Damon. Damon's going to be furious when he comes back. They've been in the All-City network for what, like three weeks? Yeah. They're already making these kinds of comments. Like, no-year-roll, no-year-old, P-H-L-Y. That's right. Well, either way, can't wait to see who the Diamondbacks take on here next.

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I love it. There you go. This is. TM. I don't like you coming in here and being better at this than me. Like, you really just show me up and I feel bad about myself. And I'm like,

I'm not as funny as Patrick. You're doing all the work in the match and you just tag me. Yeah, you're the hot tag. Yeah. It's a hot tag. That's his nickname from now on. But I'm a little concerned about Jay here. Can we go up to Jay's comment?

What happened? Apparently, Jay has now listened to. yesterday's show three times three which in my estimation is five hours of audio i'm not mistaken jay j's our number one fan i love that show is an hour and 40 minutes yeah it's five if you listen to it three times sometimes you watch a good movie multiple times what the hell we have 24 hours span the same night yes because sometimes you just can't get enough of me and we love you jay you think you're you're a diehard if you listen to the show you're only a diehard if you listen to it multiple times he's right he's right he's not wrong uh by the way speaking of that uh

I found Tori last night confessing that the F word is his favorite word when he said he did he did say that on the record yes yeah yeah same tory same anyway speaking of the diamondbacks did not get into any controversies in this series which was surprising because it was the Dodgers right not to say that that they would they wouldn't have to but we do know that the diamondbacks and Dodgers have had kind of a nice relationship it hasn't really been contentious like these two rivals have been in the past I really think felt like it like there wasn't even any like shit talking until we got those comments about the chase field situation that felt like yeah we should maybe talk talk about that at some point yeah no i mean also got very heavy booze yesterday he did and i mean this is a guy that like like we said yesterday and we probably screamed about it more and we're just kind of more emotional about it but this was a guy that the diamondbacks gave a tribute video to a guy that when he comes to the ballpark wearing Dodger Blue still gets a smattering of applause from the Diamondbacks faithful. And this, you know, turncoat now has the audacity to go on record and talk all of this trash.

Honestly, as far as I was concerned, all he did was give the Diamondbacks bulletin board material and gave Diamondbacks fans more of a reason to come out because there was guys like our little baby angel, Aaron Hughes, that was absolutely furious ready to fight someone over it. And I understand because so was I. I mean, when you read those comments, it's okay for it to come from guys that have never played for this organization. But if it's coming from guys like J.D. Martinez, and it's coming from guys like David Peralta, it hurts.

But it hurts more from Peralta. Like we, that guy was the face of this team at one point. And for him to just be snickering over there about how they were going to, you know, the Dodgers fans were all going to outclass us and they were going to out, they were going to, you know, make this into like a home game for them on the road. It, it did nothing. I think Elise might have said it.

Elise said like he's a free agent after this year. So he like, he became a villain for our fan base in a year where he's probably not even going to stick around with the Dodgers potentially after this season. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, David Peralta just didn't have a great season for for the Dodgers. I think it was like a 675 OPS or something like that.

It's not great for a corner outfielder. But yeah, his exact words, just real quick, David Peralta in an article from the LA Times about how this game could potentially feel like a home game for the Dodgers. Peralta said, we're going to feel like we're going to play at home. Those were his exact words. He said, of his time, as a diamond back, every time the Dodgers would come in there to play against us, it was blue. We got excited because the stadium was packed, but it was all Dodgers fans. Those comments are more a matter of fact.

But the comment about we're going to feel like we're playing at home, that's something that's obviously going to rub. the, you know, your former, your former faithfuls the wrong way. And it certainly did. I think he got, he got heavier booze than probably any Dodgers hitter in that game yesterday. And Peralto's been with the organization for a decade. Like he'd be signed, you know, minor league deal in 2013. So you're like, wow, like he undid it that much. So, so you almost should have a little bit of a sensitivity to that.

And, yeah. Well, him and. That's fuel. That's fuel, man. Again, him and JD, they're the only guys that we had a chance to have, like, emotions about, but they didn't really do anything to cause fans to be upset with them other than the team that they are with, right? Like, that's the only thing. So, like, that's why I said, like, the beef between these two teams this year has not only been like almost non-existent, but it's

almost been pleasant to the point that it infuriated our producer Damon with how nice these teams have been to, you know, that Mookie Betts interview with Corby and Carroll on Moogie Betts's podcast, Zach Gallen going on the next day. It was, they were delightful. Mokey Betts interrupting Tori Lavella's press conference. Give him a hug. This was the sweetest, kindest rivalry between two division teams I've ever seen. It wasn't a rivalry, frankly.

And I don't know even after this if it is, right? Does one playoff series turn this into a rivalry? Probably not. No. I mean, there was a lot of talk, though, about the Atlanta Braves and Philadelphia, Philly's rivalry. And they were saying there was a lot of good examples

given in regards to that. We talked to Jimmy Rollins before the NLDS and Jimmy Rollins being a former Philly went on a very descriptive rant about how you start to hate the blue of Atlanta

like that particular blue not blue in general, that dark blue and rank combo. You start to hate Turner Field. You start to hate seeing their fans at your stadium in good seats. That's when you know you start to have a rivalry.

When you literally as a player go up to a former player. You know, like he said one of his, one of his teammates was wearing Mets, a Mets uniform, and it disgusted him. And he was supposed to go up and dab him up and be cool. And he was like, I couldn't because he was wearing Mets. And he looked at me like, bro, it's still me. And he was like, nah, man, like that orange and that blue together.

And so like those are real rivalries when you as a player, especially in like Rollins's case, played for an organization for so long that you do hate all of those other teams in your division to that extent where you're like, no, I don't, I don't want to shake your hand right now because you're, you know, like that even seems ridiculous and too far. But like he said, that's where you know you have a rivalry.

That wasn't the case this year with the Diamondbacks and DBAB. No, the Dombecks and Dodgers. They very much liked each other. Mookie Betts and Freddie Freeman are just wonderful guys that are hard to hate, right? So it's like that you have the fact that they're coming over and giving hugs to our team and everything's cool. Like it's just wild.

and it did. It took the vitriol out of this. But meanwhile, things are heating up for the Braves and the Phillies. And things are only getting spicier when it comes to this. We have this Bryce Harper, Orlando Arcea controversy, where after Bryce Harper got doubled off first in the Braves game to win, Orlando Arcea mocked him in the clubhouse saying, add a boy, Harper, while reporters were in the clubhouse,

which has turned into literally a shirt you can buy over at the PHL. Locker. They're marketing this. They're getting a lot of Jesus. Get on it fast. Of course, then we had in game three, Harper stared down Arcea after both of his home runs,

which again, Bryce Harper, he's not the player he once was, but he is not a man that you want to give any kind of fuel to that fire. Like those guys in Philadelphia seem to play on high emotions. And when you give them,

again, like this kind of bulletin board material that David Peralta gave the Diamondbacks, you're just asking, you're just asking for it. You know, and I mean, I know we as media at times are kind of responsible like this case for kind of making those comments known and then kind of this spreading. So, I mean, I guess, Jesse, from your perspective, are all the players comments when we're in there filming and writing articles? Are they all, you know, free game? Or what do you think here?

Yeah, I've gone back and forth on this. I've talked to some other people in the industry to kind of get their sense of things. as a reporter who's in the clubhouse frequently, I want to make it clear. It's not like we go into the clubhouse and everything we see in here is immediately like going on the internet. That's not the correct way to do your job as a reporter. At the same time, the way that, and I would really have to be there in order to really have a sense of whether what RCA said is something that I would have reported or not. But the sense that we're getting from what we've heard is that Rcia was saying this like loudly and like multiple times while reporters were in the room to, the point where he was basically asking for reporters to report this in a sense.

And we've seen this on occasion where after a win, guys are high on emotions and they're coming back and yelling something, you know, maybe maybe in some cases it's just screaming and and cheering. Maybe in some cases it's very specific about, you know, an incident or whatever, you know, like, like I got our guy, Chuck Boyer from the DeBax 5050 yelling about the Gabriel Moreno run. when he came past me just yelled like that one wasn't foul yeah that one was that that would have reminded me if that would have happened as the last hit of the game and they

would have won on that I could see players coming back to the clubhouse and yelling that one wasn't foul you know like sure but that also like that's not a shot it's not a shot right right right yeah but but it could be it could be at times and it depends on how again how fierce the rivalry is and how much at times you kind of do want to mock that player right so it's Like it like you said, in this instance, it very much came off as like a player high on emotions, but it also came off as definitely like, you know, putting it out there that, that, you know, out of boy, Harper, ah boy, you know, like that kind of stuff. You're, you're not shying away from it.

You're not trying to hide it. It wasn't something that was just meant for some sort of team activity. Cameras are there. Reporters are there. And, you know, you're yelling it. But they're, there, it did kind of become controversial because it was covered the way it was. You have to be careful in the clubhouse if you're a player, especially at times like this where it's not just the local media that's covering.

Like when we're in the clubhouse each and every day, like you're building up trust. Like I can remember in the past talking to a player who said and legitimately believe they were a better defender at third base than Nolan Aronado. Now that wasn't necessarily something that I was going to gain traction or something like that. And it was like, all right, that's maybe a little click baby. So that's something I'll just keep to myself. It doesn't really help anybody to put that piece of information out there.

So you're building up this certain level of trust. And then in the postseason, everything kind of is fair game. And again, you've got other people that Diamondbacks, Dodgers, Atlanta, the Phillies, like they don't know who these people are. Like they're trying to maybe make a name for themselves. Sure. The rules do slightly change in that. And again, if you're going out there and you're trying to, you know, say something that's

a little bit incensed in that way like Arcea was, yeah, what do you expect is going to happen? So it's not that everything is fair game, but this particular thing is definitely fair game. I think so. I think we as reporters do see a lot that goes on in the clubhouse that, like Jesse said, you're expected not to report on.

I mean, we're just sitting there while we're hanging out waiting for media availability while these guys are just talking to each other and text messaging and whatever. Yeah, there's all kinds of off-the-record stuff that happens. But for Orlando Arcea to be like a, hauled that this got out there. And his teammates.

A lot of people. Yeah. And I know even other guys around the league who aren't his teammates. I think Kevin, Kevin Gosman put out a couple of very vocal tweets about this, about how the clubhouse is the player sanctuary and what happens there should stay there unless, you know, like a reporter is talking to you with a microphone and it's very clear what's happening.

You just can't. If you're a player and there's reporters in the room, you just can't go out there and say things like this, this vocally, this loudly, this easily for everyone. one to hear, especially when there's, you know, a pretty large media contingent in the room. Right. The chance that nobody picks that up is basically non-existent. And you have to understand that if you're a player. And at times it is difficult because at times we have fun moments and stuff.

We have off-the-record conversations. Sure. I know that I've had quite a few off-the-record conversations with Zach Gallen that, I mean, again, Zach Gallen is very specific about like going like, this is off the record, right? Like, so like there's things that, again, we get trusted with being told. or conversations we have. A lot of times it's usually not even about that person or individual. Sometimes it's more about like coaching and stuff or whatever, right?

But like for instance, I'll give an example of when we had a funny instant interaction with Jake McCarthy where one night, you know, like media does, we were covering the guys that like had the big hit in the game, the starting pitcher, you know, the few guys we were going to talk to. And Jake just kind of came over to the media and made a joke about like, hey guys, want to talk to me? And I had tweeted something out about it and someone. told me that that was a bad idea. Jesse also told me it was a bad idea because again that kind of thing, even though it was a joke, even though it wasn't intended to make Jake look bad in

any way or whatever. And I just thought it was a funny instance. And Jake was the one that like did something funny. It was intended just for the clubhouse. And that's not like like, like, not everything is intended to be, you know, put out there for public display. And the problem is sometimes there's a lot of funny stuff that happens in the clubhouse. There's a lot of things like this is kind of a funny thing. So I could see it being less malicious and more. And more. And more just about, hey, it was funny that Arcea came in and yelled this thing, right? And again, it, that's, this is sports. This is sports.

You're going to say things and then that thing's going to turn into a thing. And then the other team's going to use it as fuel for them to come back and beat you. There's going to be shirts made about it. Everything. It loses its context a little bit too. Like you said, like, if you just read the McCarthy text, it's like, oh, you know, what's going on here? You're like, no, no, it's a joke.

Yeah. Exactly. There's a lot of context. lost on it when you're not there. sarcastic font. Like that doesn't exist. I mean, even look at like Tori like dropping F bombs.

Like no one, everyone's kind of okay with that. And it's like there's similarities and obvious differences between Rcia and Lavello. But there is that thing of like, oh, that shouldn't get out because he's using naughty language or whatever. But that's pretty acceptable though for like a postseason celebration. No,

it is. No, it absolutely is. But like we saw, right? Like Tori had his post game speech last night kind of behind closed doors. And that is because he wanted. wanted to be able to speak freely to his players and not have it impacted by us being present, recording his words, putting it out there, all of that stuff.

Even those words were still posted by music. Words are still posted. They're out there. And it's not like that, but it's like, it's kind of like the last instance. I will say this. I will say this 100%. That's so completely different than the, the, the, the, than this thing between the Phillies and the Braves.

What Tori did as much as some people might think like, oh, wow, that was kind of crass. Like, it was so endearing to so many people. That we love Tori. He got way more fans than he lost. Absolutely. And that was a good side. And honestly, like,

Tori is so professional, 99% of the time that to me, I think the joy there is seeing that side of him that we never actually get to see. He said, as Cogs just pointed out, he said he's going on a vendor live on MLB network. He said he was going to disappear for the next 24 hours.

I was really hoping he was going to show up here because I was just going to leave with him. And we were going to clear this fridge out of Four Peaks beers and get going. I like what he said last night too, where he was asked about the Dodgers. And he's like, you know,

if I had a little more champagne, I'd say something different. But you know what? Let me kind of reel it in. I love them so much. Yeah. I love them so much. The last thing I'll say about this incident,

you know, whether R.C. is common and should have seen the light of day or not, Bryce Harper was still going to hit those two home runs. At the end of the day, it didn't, it didn't matter. You know,

Bryce Harper, maybe he gained some extra fuel from this, but he's also Bryce Harper. and he's building a resume before our eyes of being one of the best postseason performers that we've seen in a while. Correct. And I don't think this actually moved the needle in terms of the result of any of these games. He might not slit his throat.

Yeah. Yeah. Do not get Bryce Harper met. He is like the incredible Hulk. Do not get him mad. He would have hit one home run. I disagree with you on that, but he wouldn't have gotten two. One would have gone to the warning track.

That's for sure. We got some super chats, by the way. I want to give a quick shout out to a couple of our guys. Chris Bailey, thank you so much. Chris for being here again for your. Super chat again. I said, want to give this during last night's show,

but just couldn't stay up any longer. Love this team. I understand. I was spent myself. I don't even know what well of energy I dug into to yell and scream as much as I did last night. Classy nasty. Thank you for your super chat.

He says, snakes, it's the yoffs. That's right. It is the damn yoffs. And I will say this. The Arizona Diamondbacks, of course, can use all of the positive,

good vibes, all of the things going their way, ball bouncing their way, ball bouncing into the seats like Jesse said, but we have somebody who we absolutely love and adore around here. Chris Melton, our dead mother of PHNX. I'm wearing

my team Marlene's shirt today. She at the end of the season lost a customized jersey that her mother who passed away, Marlene, we miss you very much, gave her during their time as Diamondbacks fans. The jersey meant a lot to her. She lost it

during the last regular season game of the year. Unfortunately, the Jersey has not come back yet, but the Arizona Diamondbacks presented her yesterday with a new replacement jersey. Derek Hall gave it to her himself. And you just can't help but feel like, you know, this team loves its fan base and they understand. Like they understand these season ticket holders, these people, especially in this town are really, they're the, they're the foundation. This team doesn't have the same kind of out of control fan base that some other franchises are lucky. enough to have so these are the people that we have to absolutely take care of and i mean

chris has done so much for us and this team that it's great to see yeah great to see someone get give back to her that's a great and there she is that's a great story i love that yeah i mean that's cool and honestly uh like i said i mean right now there's a lot of things going on uh when it comes to this team um and there's a lot of things going on there's a lot of things coming on this team is there's some There's some possible things that they want the positivity to keep rolling on. But I know Chris and I have talked about it. And this was, we've said, mom was watching over the team this year. And you can't help to feel that with all of this that's happened to them and this wonderful run that they're on.

But again, shout out to the Diamondbacks. I think Chris was on like Channel 12 News and stuff trying to get that jersey back. She was on every network. Yeah, let's get that jersey back, by the way. It's still out there somewhere. So let's get the real, let's get the real one back. And I mean, of course, that way. You can assemble a chase field search party?

I absolutely will. I will link arms and I will go seat by seat. It's there somewhere. You think so? I think that's where it was lost, was inside of the stadium. Unless somebody picked it up and brought it out, which I guess is possible. That's probably the case. Yeah, that's probably the case.

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Are we, I mean, are we doing? Is it retroactive since the show started two years ago? Absolutely not. No. No, but we're going to make a sizable donation on day one. Man, I got a lot of money to pay. But, of course, we will be back here tomorrow. Hopefully, we'll have another special guest in the house joining us so that we can talk a little bit more about these snakes.

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No, absolutely not. We're going to talk about this right now. We're not ending the show at all. What's your first name? Jacob. Jacob. Your name is Jacob, Franklin? No.

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