PHNX Arizona Diamondbacks Podcast - Slade Cecconi impresses in his big league debut, but the Diamondbacks come up short in loss
Episode Date: August 3, 2023Slade Cecconi made his major league debut for the Arizona Diamondbacks and did not disappoint. But the D-backs bullpen once again gave up runs in a close game and the Answerbacks were nowhere to be se...en in another loss. We have updates from Jesse Friedman in San Francisco and a whole lot of concerns about the future of this team.SUBSCRIBE to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/phnx_youtubeALL THINGS PHNX: http://linktr.ee/phnxsports PHNX Events: Get your tickets to D-backs Takeovers, Knockout Nights & Suns Watch Parties at BetMGM, and MORE here: https://www.eventbrite.com/o/phnx-56002330273 Head to https://factormeals.com/phnxdbacks50 and use code phnxdbacks50 to get 50% off.Go to https://saturdayneon.com and use code PHNX for 10% off your order today. Free shipping for orders over $200!Gametime: Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code PHNX for $20 off your first purchase.Pins & Aces: Check out https://pinsandaces.com and use code PHNX to receive 15% off your first order and get free shipping.Circle K: Text PHNX to 31310 to join the Circle K SMS subscriber club and get BOGO 32 oz Polar Pops! Head to https://www.circlek.com/store-locator to find Circle Ks near you!OGeez!: Learn more about OGeez! at https://ogeezbrands.com//. Must be 21 years or older to purchase.Four Peaks: Follow them on social @fourpeaksbrew & @fourpeakspub! Must be 21+. Enjoy responsibly. When you shop through links in the description, we may earn affiliate commissions. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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You're okay?
We're not okay.
He's not okay.
Neither are he's that.
None of us are okay.
Welcome in to another edition of the PHMXD Backs podcast right here after another post-game
bullpen loss, I guess you could say.
My name is Derek Montia.
I am sometimes known as your mayor of the city of Phoenix,
but I don't even want to be associated with what's going on.
You're the mayor of like fucking Gotham City.
Like, why would you even want to be,
why would you want to be known as the mayor of that city?
See, he's right.
He's right.
I'm not,
I don't want to disown you, Phoenix,
but sometimes I feel like I have to.
This guy next to me,
he's going to shut off all of the electricity in the city.
It's the one and only,
Sean to pause.
Jesse Friedman will be joining us shortly here from San Francisco.
He has some postgame breakdown of yet, like I said,
another loss.
But before we get to that,
we do have to wonder,
are we ever going to see Paul Seawald on the mound?
I don't know.
Zach in the chat says,
we'll never see the mound at this rate.
We'll never see anything.
We'll never see joy.
We'll never see happiness.
We'll never see anything again.
I don't know.
Of course,
want to start off with the good.
And of course, the good is that Slate's Coney
absolutely shoved in his debut.
It wasn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination.
Got his very first strikeout in his first at bat.
In the weirdest way possible.
In the weirdest possible way.
It started off as a hit by pitch that after it was reviewed,
it was seen that the pitch actually hit the knob of Lamont Wade Jr's bat
and then was caught by Jose Herrera for a foul tip catch and then the strikeout.
Jose Herrera needs a gold love.
I said it out there.
Jose Herrera was phenomenal.
He's a defensive specialist.
The Yadier Molina retired.
Someone needed to fill those, I guess, catch his gear.
and Jose Herrera is the man to do it.
Cole says thanks for not getting a starter
at the deadline hazen at this point.
I don't even know if the starter is where we're going to blame it on.
The dam, the bats have started hibernate
and the bullpen can't pitch.
You're still doing the you're still doing the toothpick thing, huh?
I mean, I'm a toothpick guy as he said yesterday.
You are a toothpick guy now.
Do you see what the losses are doing?
I'm going to start smoking fucking cigarette.
Like on the show I would be fucking ripping the darts
I didn't think you were going to say cigarettes at all
I'm a lot of things
I'll start smoking some dog
A lot of things
There's a lot of things
We want to do to get over these losses because they are tough
But let me tell you
I loved going back to Coney
I did love his emotion on the mound
Yeah I did love the outing I felt
It was very encouraging pumping his fist
After he got that
Got out of that fourth still scoreless
struggled there to get through five innings,
but was able to still keep it within reach.
His line hands up at four and two thirds innings pitched,
four hits, two earn runs, one walk, two strikeouts.
But when you talk about emotions,
the Sikoni family made me feel all the feels, right?
Like they had a video on the broadcast of his father,
just absolutely tearing up.
I think it was the video that was being played on the,
in the in stadium monitors of the starting pitchers
and he saw Slade up there and like just what a moment that way
it's got to be such a crazy feeling I mean for real
so crazy it's I think a little brother was there too yeah the big family big family
show like oh man just something like to wear a family member's jersey I feel like
has to be such a crazy right right I mean so surreal it has to be so crazy it's being
present at times like we've
had the opportunity to be present for some of these guys' debut and some of these moments,
it just really puts it into perspective that these are real people, right?
Like, sometimes the better an athlete is, the higher level of, like, being an elite, you know,
athlete being a big celebrity makes them less and less of a real person, like, to fans and
such a way.
Just like, but the athletes are whatever, they're professional athletes, but like the family,
those are, like, that's just a much.
mom that was taking her kid to play Little League
in the same way that my mom took me to play the league
at a point.
So, like, for outside of just the athletes being people,
like the families, this is, it's like,
it's just real life for that.
And his mom gave an incredible interview.
Like, his mom's interview,
his mom's interview was heartfelt.
But more than that, it was like a good interview.
She was, she had good answers.
I mean, I know a lot of times when, you know,
when they're in that position and Todd comes over to talk to them,
it can be a little bit, you know, you can be a little nervous.
It can be a little nerve-wracking.
Getting hit by that.
Todd, Todd's a G.
Todd is a G. Todd took a ball off the forearm and just kept plugging along.
And my man is a season vet in the game, right?
Like there's nothing that's going to shake him from doing his job.
But Slade did, like I said, he wasn't perfect.
But he just was effective today.
he went out there with a lot of confidence like I said a lot of emotion
here's the balls that were put in play against him though
and it wasn't you know of course just not not great a lot of stuff that was right down
the middle a lot of mistakes that were made but to be honest
he still was able to get through and and you know
find a way to get out of course like I said that that fifth inning became a little bit
a little bit of a struggle for him and especially he was scored
entering into that fifth inning, gave up the two earn runs.
But like I said, did give the Arizona Diamondbacks at least for this night.
He gave them an opportunity to win it.
When he left the game, it was tied to two, too.
And then, of course, the bullpen happened.
The debacks, though, before we go in on the bullpen, they didn't win the margins tonight.
They said that on the broadcast.
There were a lot of instances where the Diamondbacks just, once again, were sloppy defensively.
the bats nowhere to be found at times.
I mean, one hit after the first inning, right?
Which shout out to Chris Gargiola on the radio broadcast
because he actually called that.
He said that Logan Webb, if he does give up runs,
usually gives him up in the first.
And if you're going to score against him,
you better make sure you do it early.
And they did do that,
but Logan Webb once again shut the Diamondbacks down
just as Gersiola said he would.
And they did not,
they were not able to produce anything.
I mean, it felt like everything that they tried,
nothing was working,
but they couldn't even get it at one point out of the infield.
No, yeah.
I mean,
we were joking about it,
like when you have Jace Peterson
batting fifth, I believe, right?
Batting fifth in the line?
Yeah, that was fucking a nightmare.
That's absurd.
Yeah.
Like that sounds like something that the,
I don't know,
the Oakland athletics would do.
It means your dad.
Not, uh...
Did he even hit fifth for the age?
Just drop.
I don't know.
That's what I'm saying.
That's my point.
Like,
it sounds like something,
a franchise that is a complete another joke.
I just dropped my toothpick, by the way.
That's the toothpick.
The gimmicks.
There's a disclaimer later that I could go get another one.
But,
um,
yeah,
man.
I don't,
I don't know what's up with the bats.
Jase Peterson is contributing,
but.
And then he's immediately costing.
He's doing too much.
He's doing too much.
Stop doing too much.
You're doing too much.
He got got stealing after getting a lead-off single in the eighth inning of last night's game,
which could have been a very valuable position for them.
And then he gets gunned down in this game trying to turn a single and the double in the first inning.
Luckily, the run scored.
Yeah.
In the with the dog shit throw he had from third to home.
He did.
He did.
He almost did.
And then he also kind of botched a foul ball play there that he should have had, but I'm not going to blame him for that one.
What we're saying is less is more Jace.
That's all we're saying.
We're saying stop trying so hard.
which is something that could be said for the entire Diamondbacks offense because it feels like everybody's pressing.
Hey, Lordus is back at least. Lordus is back. Yeah, Lordus is back. But when you talk about not showing signs of life, that would be the bullpen. This would be, if I'm not mistaken, the 20th bullpen loss of the season, Tyler Gilbert was flat out terrible. He came in. He got, he did get one out to get out of that fifth inning. But once the sixth inning rolled around, he gave up five hits, two earn runs and one.
inning. And let's take a look at Tyler Gilbert's balls put in play because, uh, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Just right down the middle. And that's not a that's not a fast four seam fastball at all.
You know, don't don't think that's actually a fastball. Yeah. It was it was bad. And I mean,
on one like I have been pretty, I've, I've, I've been like defensive of Torrey, but holy shit, my guy.
Like, what are we?
Why was he left out there so long?
Every, every single hit, every single out.
Everything that came off of a bat against Tyler Gilbert in the sixth was so loud.
It was so loud.
And there was a point where the bases were loaded, but no runs had scored yet.
He was getting smacked around.
It was the most obvious thing ever.
It was the most predictable thing ever.
It was fucking absolutely was.
We were like, he's going to give up two runs right here.
We said it.
We said it.
We didn't know how.
We didn't know it was going to be a double.
We didn't know exactly how they were going to score if it was going to be two singles.
Yeah.
What combination of things, but we knew two on the RBI double was the most predictable thing to happen in that situation.
To everybody except for Tori Lavello, apparently.
I don't, that one I just, I simply don't really have an explanation for as to why you're keeping him out there.
With how just like we said, just everything was getting absolutely smacked.
John's right.
Gilbert should never have come back out for the sixth.
That should have been when you moved on to the next pitcher because it's the end of the inning.
You get out of it.
Erwin Altman says, I love Alec Thomas's defense.
We don't say enough about it.
Absolutely.
Alec Thomas's offense, to borrow a phrase, but my friend here, dog shit lately.
But his defense has been pretty damn good.
He said in the 8th, he gets called for a check swing on a ball that was outside.
Why is he swinging on the 3-0 pitch when we were down by two runs?
That's what Damon was.
We screamed about that.
We like literally screamed about how it was.
You just take right there.
It's literally like the first.
thing like one of the first things like i genuinely i'm trying to think of some kind of like baseball
strategy type thing that you learn before don't swing at a three oh pitch like i mean i mean like
tossing like playing catches no but i mean like a strike from a tragedy perspective yeah like i like
you run that you run i no like i can't think of anything that's what we mean by the debacks to
not win the margins tonight it's it's those instances those abilities to have a runner on base
Because the Diamondbacks just could not get runners on base.
They couldn't really make anything start happening offensively tonight.
Cattel defensively is just becoming harder and harder to watch by the day.
Diamondbacks were 500 tonight with runners in scoring position
because they only had two runners in scoring position all night long.
Yeah, that's right.
And that would be, again, if I'm not mistaken,
that would be two runners in scoring position for the last two games.
In all due respect to the Diamondbacks, we said nonstop they need to start hitting better with runners in scoring position.
And they said, fine, we just won't get runners in scoring position.
Chusha.
Yeah.
They just won't get those opportunities.
Yeah.
I want to give some flowers out.
And I want to give flowers out to Scott McGuff for his fourth scoreless outing in a row.
He remains sexy.
Yeah.
It still lights out time when he comes in.
And again, like I said, this was a 20.
bullpen loss of the year. The reverse bullpen jinks thing that's happening is fucking maddening
right now because the Diamondbacks not only have a bullpen that can't seemingly keep from
allowing runs to score in some capacity, like whether they're ahead, whether it's a tie.
They can't even keep the game close even if it's like a one run game and it's late, right?
But they also can't seem to do anything themselves offensively against an opposing team's
bullpen anymore.
We talked about in the past how they made starting pitching look really good,
but once they were getting to the bullpen,
they were able to be effective and kind of change things up.
That's part of where the whole answerback's schick came from.
But right now it seems like they can't do anything against the bullpen,
and their bullpen can't do much against the oppositions.
But speaking of bullpen, again, talking about more flowers.
Austin Adams fractured his goddamn right ankle in last night's game
when he got hit by that comebacker.
The man just bent over and took a long sigh and then walked off the field with a fractured ankle and then stood around and dug out with a fractured ankle and then walked down.
And if I can't stress this enough, an ungodly amount of steps to get from that bullpen or from the dugout to the clubhouse there at Giant Stadium.
So he's just an absolute beast and maybe the toughest human being that I've ever seen in my entire life.
I mean I said that's what I was saying last night bring out a wheelchair for me if that
there were others there were others there are others around not naming these are others around
criticize on my neck big country um right I mean he's not big country but he he's got a big country
vibe to him there's others there's others around in the office just people criticizing his reaction
being like you got to shake that off you're oh you're just a you're a big man but yeah
it wasn't me was no it was somebody else in the office there's like 20 people that
yeah no you're right there are possibly thinking there are not 20 people
at this time of night when this kind of thing happens.
Oh, but it was the other night.
You don't know who's around any of what.
It was really...
I just want to say I was keeping this real to street.
I don't think there was any way that based on what I was saying,
anyone was actually going to glean as to who I was talking about.
I just don't know who it possibly could be.
I have no idea.
Also, we're trying to find the guy who did this, right?
And also, make the play.
Yeah.
Make the play.
No, but for real, like, at the time, I almost, I was almost concerned because,
Because the fact that he was just like, I mean, Adams is like a big tough dude.
And to see him just stop and just like, yeah, it would be like, have that not, not.
And I don't want to make it seem like, I was like, all this guy's in shock.
He's clearly.
But like, it was like, it was concerning to see him stop.
His reaction was similar to what happens when you get hit as a man in the testicles, right?
Like it was that kind of like wind knocked out of him.
Right?
Like bent over needs a moment.
Awesome.
Because it would have made a lesser man and by which I mean most men scream in Cuss and Swear.
And he just stood there and his fucking.
They would have fallen down to the ground.
Yeah. He would have held their leg.
Yeah.
He walked off with Tori kind of like putting his arm over him a little bit.
Like, oh, man, that man is incredibly tough.
And the Diamondbacks are going to be once again without yet another arm.
Who knows what happens with Tyler Gilbert?
I'm sure Tyler Gilbert will stay just out of necessity.
but there will probably be some more roster changes.
Of course, Austin, Adams going to the IL,
was the corresponding move for calling up Slade Sacconi.
So for the time being,
it appears Slade will remain in the lineup
or in the starting rotation
and we'll see him hopefully work towards,
you know, a little bit lengthier outings than he had today.
But it's very encouraging outing,
and it was very nice for his family.
Yeah.
To have that moment and be there for that.
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I got a two thing.
Thank you.
Cheers to you. I got my beer. Cheers to see you all. Like we said, things aren't great. Wildcard standings aren't great especially. Things aren't great with the Diamondbacks. Things aren't great with the All-City Standings. The toothpicks is pretty good.
Toothpake. You got a fresh toothpakes. So yeah, and this beer from Four Peaks, of course, is, is, I got a little steak. Oh, it's super juicy IPA. But let's take a look at the current wildcard standings because, uh, yeah, I don't want to, but.
They will not be denied
these Chicago Cubs.
I mean, look.
We got the Padres right there
just staring over at us.
They're three and seven in their last 10
and there's still only a half game out.
Like, you look at, look, they all suck.
Everyone sucks.
Yeah.
So it's a good time to suck.
Yeah, oh, no.
The Diamondbacks suck.
The Diamondbacks suck more than I.
It's not a good time to suck.
It's never a good time to suck.
It is the least worst time to suck.
There are worse times to suck.
you're the Arizona Donovacs.
But again, all these, like, this isn't just a Diamondback situation.
You look at the teams that for the first half of the, like the first half of the year,
this was a Arizona, Miami, what, Milwaukee or Cincinnati or really L.A., I guess,
because they were winning the division, the Damanx winning the division at a point.
Like, all of a sudden you got the, you got Philly and Chicago and oh my God, what is that?
Whose music is that?
It's the San Diego Padres.
Three and a half games back.
Oh, God.
That man had a family.
It's also we're also 57 and 52.
This is not in like timely accurate.
Oh.
Yeah, we're one worse than that.
So we're a game and a half outside the wild card.
It's, it's worse.
Cool.
Cool, David.
Cool.
That's great.
Listen.
I mean, as long as it's still close, anything's possible.
So like I mean, I was talking about this endaman, it's over.
Don't get me wrong.
Like, it's over, but they're not dead yet.
Like, I'm not pronouncing them dead.
Anything possible.
He did declare.
Who did you declare dead?
Did we do a time?
Was it Padres?
I think it was the Padres, which is a stupid, a stupid decision from me.
Yeah.
I don't know what my punishment will be, but I will punish myself in some way if they come back and accomplish something.
I don't want to bring up the record for the Diamondback since you joined the show, but I think that's something that people should really just keep in mind.
Let's also take a look at the All-City standings because, again, the Cubs, they're just coming in hot.
Coming in hot.
What is the Cubs record since I joined the show?
Not what I want to know.
What's the Cubs record since I visited Wrigley Field?
Because that might be a scary thing for me to look into as well.
Of course, there are two other teams that are part of this division, but do they, are they even at this point?
Quote unquote, quote unquote teams.
I mean a quote unquote play baseball.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
What did the White Toggs do today?
Because I know they had punch out Poppy Dill and C's on the mound.
I think they lost by 10 runs.
Good.
Precisely what I saw coming.
Yeah, they lost 11-0-1 to your Texas Rangers.
Man.
Well, the Diamondbacks, like I said yesterday, they have a lot of tough series ahead.
But, of course, this upcoming series with the Twins, we could take a look ahead at the Probables.
We have one more game with the Giants tomorrow.
A bullpen game for them tomorrow.
And the Diamondbacks.
Is that a bullpen game for the Giants or for the Diamondbacks?
For the Giants.
for the Giants.
Well,
I just saw who it was.
They have Scott Alexander
is the opener tomorrow
for the Giants.
All right.
I'm going to say this
about this upcoming series
with the Twins.
The Diamondbacks don't win it.
The season's over.
And see,
Jesse isn't here.
I feel like we've heard that.
I mean,
I don't know.
I don't feel like I've said it before.
Fair, fair.
Fair, fair.
And the reason why here is
because their back is against the wall.
Everything really is,
is,
you know,
everything's bad and they need
to get back on track
with Merrill Kelly and Zach Gowan going
in a series and Ryan Nelson going
on the road I
you have to win this series
you have to come out with two out of three
yeah tomorrow's game I feel is also
very important for the Diamondbacks to split
the series with the Giants as they brought up on the
broadcast several times
I mean there is something to be said
about the season series with the Giants
and how important it might be
to have the win there
you know, if it comes down to a tiebreaker situation.
But yeah, and Mays Devil might be right.
Yeah.
It's over.
They're not dead yet, but it is over.
That's a weird combination of phrases.
But if they lose this series against the twins,
I'm going to be right there with you and Damon.
I don't know if Jesse's going to be able to get me back.
I mean, they definitely won it, but more than just win it.
I mean, obviously I love for them to sweet.
But I want to see them win like if they're going to win two games, win them back to back.
like win the first two or win the last two.
I would just like to see them win consecutive baseball games.
It would feel so good.
Oh, it would feel good.
It would feel really, really good.
Can we get a win on Friday, please, so that when we're doing the show?
Or is that?
No, that would be next week.
So, like, yeah, I don't care.
Two of the wins is fine.
Whatever.
No, that is during this weekend.
This is Friday.
The first game of the series is Friday.
The first game is Friday.
I don't even know anything anymore, folks.
And I don't, I've just given up on calendars and time and everything.
I used to know exactly when these games.
started and when they were going to happen but now I've just I just I just have given up and I don't know if I'm ready to
officially call them dead after this series but I think I'm going to have to if they can't win it they're not dead yet
I think after that they got the Dodgers Padres more Dodgers more Padres Cubs just a lot of good teams after that
Astros are in there somewhere they play the Yankees which you're going to hate I'm going to love
I'm going to if they if they win
when they win.
When they win?
A joke.
More brilliant,
we want to see Paul Seawald.
When do we did to see Paul Seawald?
God damn it.
You'll see him three immaculate innings in that Yankee series from Paul CWall.
I hope you're right.
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drink responsibly uh we were supposed to have jesse here at some point of the show but i don't know
what happened to jesse because jesse is not here he disappeared on us i feel like uh he's probably
getting like reprimanded by tory or not like reprimanded but getting like a really inspirational
speech that torrey should probably be giving to the players but he's just giving to the
media instead yeah about like what's going on yeah this is part of baseball but you know I got a lot of
faith in the eyes they'll figure this out uh Tyler Gilbert got nicked up yeah a bit out there
he was making some good pitches there just yeah some things yeah well about the offense
acceptable unacceptable performance part it's part of baseball part of baseball I think we need like a
tory cliche bingo game is what we need uh or maybe just to play some clips of tory
and then we can guess on what thing he said after that.
Oh, by the way, you know what this team really needs, I feel like?
A bench clearing brawl.
Like, kind of like hockey style.
Teams doesn't have any energy.
You drop the gloves.
You get a fight going.
This team needs a, like, RIP Austin Adams ankle.
Like, it would have been perfect for this.
They need somebody to start a fight.
Tommy Fan needs to go slap somebody tomorrow.
Jock Peterson's there for you.
Yeah. I'm ready for a little violence.
I think this team needs a little chaos, a little injection of life.
You're not wrong.
And Tommy Fam is supposed to be with the team tomorrow, right?
But not, he wasn't available to be with them today.
We do have some videos coming in from Jesse.
I think, is that first one?
What was that first one, Jace?
That's Slade.
Is that Slade?
I believe so.
Oh, man, we're all over the place with what we got here.
Well, Jesse will be with us soon
But we're just delaying the show now
So that we make sure that Jesse makes it at some point
But this is this is honestly very common
With my experiences with being in the clubhouse after a game
Because especially when there's somebody particular
You want to talk to like in this in this case
Slade Sacconi
You don't know when you're going to get in
But let's see
First we have is this Jose Herrera with discussing
what happened there with the strikeout there in the first inning.
About the strikeout.
Can you tell us what happened?
It wasn't supposed to be like that for his first strikeout.
But it was fun that we got it for him.
And hopefully I hold the baller, I think longer enough.
And it was a good experience.
No hands, though.
No hands.
Try to hold it with my pants as long as I can.
Nothing like that has ever happened here.
There's no way.
No, even to me, I think it was the first time of my career.
That's something like that happened, and I keep holding the ball.
And it was pretty special for that moment.
That made me happy.
And then we also have Slade here with more on that strikeout as well, right?
Straight.
You walk through that?
Yeah, basically, you know, three, two, three, three one right at him.
And, you know, hosy, they did a great job, you know, putting his cup on today.
you know, got the strikeout.
Let's go.
He put it all out there.
He put it all out there on the line for that strikeout.
There was a question in the chat about Tommy Fam.
Nate Cleveland asked his fam going to be center field or right field.
He'll definitely be a corner outfield.
I don't think we'll see him play center field at all.
And much like Jace Peterson batting fifth tonight, if we do see him in center field,
things have gone terribly wrong.
Oh yeah
No they have
But first off
You think I can pull off
Like the Herrera
Like slits in the eyebrow
I think you could
The whole time I was watching that video
I was literally thinking
Sean should do that
Those slits with his eyebrows
That was my only thought
Yeah that was
It's hard to concentrate
Sometimes when we're trying to
Wonder if
I can't do that
Thanks for working
For Sean
But that that was definitely
A unique way to have
Not only your first strikeout
In Major League Baseball
Happened
But that was
his first batter in major league baseball so i don't know if i don't know if anybody has that like i feel
like something like that's got to be good to like kind of shake the nerves though because like
chaotic and so weird happens you're like okay what like this is just we're here or whatever right
right it kind of takes you out of all of the pressure in the moment of of making your major league debut
it also like when uh brent strom came out to kind of calm him down there in the fourth inning i i
can't help but wonder what brent strom says in those moments right yeah i would love to be
a fly in one of those
mom. Yeah, because like,
Jesse doesn't believe this
because I've been told this before.
The players will openly tell you this.
It's not like a secret, but they have told us
that Strom goes out there sometimes
and doesn't even talk to you about, like,
the moment. Like, he'll just
say something funny or he'll
just kind of try to lighten the mood.
Like he... He has that experience to know
that going out there and telling a guy, you know,
you need to throw your fastball up in the fucking
strike zone isn't something he really needs to hear in that moment.
He fucking knows that too.
He knows.
Everybody knows what the job is here.
They just can't do it, right?
Like that's the one thing that's so lost on us sometimes is fans when we're watching
these guys of superhuman ability throw a fucking baseball into an area that's about the size
of a shoe box, right?
Like it's crazy, but we kind of often think like, why aren't they doing that better?
Because they can't.
They can't right now in the moment.
Yeah, I want it because if people are talking about in the chat.
how do you feel about the guys of smiling and being happy after i mean what do you want like
honestly i mean personally i'd be somber to be absurd to be upset about like first off they were
talking about a particularly funny moment secondly like as far especially as far as slate is concerned
fuck the loss that was his major league debut i don't give a shit like he's probably didn't really
give a shit he's not he's not the reason they lost he's not the reason they lost and that was his major
league debut he's going to be smiling after this he's going to go see his family he's going to have a good
There are a hundred and sixty two of these games win or lose.
Like the idea that because a team is losing,
you want to see them all boohooing and being down.
Like how is that going to change what's happening to them?
Especially like a team like Diamondbacks that are kind of in this slump right now.
It's one thing if they were like on the mound and they were like on,
they're in the dugout or something like that in the middle of the game doing it.
But like the game's over.
They're talking about something else.
Like there's just I think that's the thing is for us,
as fans we only look at the win or the loss yeah inside of the clubhouse there's a million other
things going on and to be honest if they if they did hang their hat too much on the wins and losses
if their mood was too dependent on the wins or losses it would be impossible to get out of a rut
like the don't know that's how you see whole teams like just spiral yeah yeah you know they
all are in like a mindset like that well to get his thoughts on smile
in the clubhouse after a loss and more.
We are joined by the one and only
Thunderstick Jesse Friedman.
I'll see you smiling, Jesse.
Nobody in the chat wants you coming in here
smiling looking happy after a loss.
Sorry, we're getting into it
in the comments here because your video
showed some happy-looking Diamondbacks players
talking about that strikeout
Slate Ciconey had in the first inning.
And apparently people don't want any of that.
They want sad faces.
They want people looking like Sean
with the fucking toothache.
In the mouth. They want him angry. Look it.
I'm getting angry. He's surly.
I was going to call people names.
But anyway, what are your thoughts, Jesse, on what we saw today out of Slade?
And more importantly, the concept of smiling after a loss.
I mean, did you guys watch those videos?
Did you hear, did you hear Slade Sikoni's line?
Jose did a great job putting a cup on today.
Yeah.
These are legendary things that are happening in this clubhouse right now.
I don't know why you guys are hating on this.
Right?
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, I mean, obviously not a not a great day of Diamondbacks baseball.
And for people, you know, those are the only clips that that we're showing during the show here.
Yeah.
We don't want to see you in a fucking jacket having a good time in that good weather out there right now, to be honest.
We're sweating our ass off in this office.
You know that.
That's fair.
But as far as the Diamondbacks Clubhouse is concerned, I can assure you there were a lot of long faces.
You know, after this game, Tori Lavello was was not pleased as you would expect.
and other players.
The mood was generally very, very down.
It was really just, you know, Slade talking about his first big league start, which started
off pretty well.
You know, obviously there was the hilarious strikeout, which it still boggles my mind how
that happened.
I think that's going to be something we remember for years and years.
That was one of the first things Tori Lavello said is that, you know, we're going
to be looking at that video for years and years after this, which I think is absolutely true.
But, yeah, I mean, Slade didn't give up a hit until the fourth inning.
I don't think he necessarily was pitching quite as well as that showed.
There were a lot of misses in the middle of the plate.
Yeah, for whatever reason, yeah, for whatever reason, Giants hitters really just struggle to square it up.
They were just kind of getting a little bit underneath Slade's fastball through the first few innings of this game.
But eventually it kind of caught up to him.
He got clipped for a couple runs there in the fifth inning.
You saw Tori with a very quick hook going to Tyler Gilbert there in the fifth when Slade was only at 59 pitches.
I asked about that after the game.
And Tori said that that was a plan.
The game even started.
They were going to allow Slade Cicconi to go through the lineup twice.
And then once they got around the third time through the order, whatever the situation was,
that's when they were going to hand the ball off to somebody else wound up being Tyler Gilbert.
So you can kind of understand why the debacks might do that.
I mean, they're obviously, they're trying to win games, right?
They're trying to do whatever they can in order to win pivotal games here against the San Francisco Giants.
And, you know, on paper, getting Slade in there through the lineup a couple times and then turning it over to someone else might have been the best option.
Unfortunately, for the debacks, it didn't really work out.
Do you think this is just a momentary thing in that they'll stretch Slade out some more?
Or do you think we'll continue to see him use kind of not necessarily in an opener capacity?
but in kind of a shorter capacity like this while he's part of the starting rotation.
That's a good question.
I don't know.
I wouldn't be shocked if the Diamondbacks tried this sort of thing again.
I mean, the San Francisco Giants are Exhibit A, that this kind of thing can work.
I don't know if they're necessarily limiting their guys to two times through the order,
but the Giants all year have been thriving off of bullpen games and guys coming in out of the
bullpen to throw three innings or starting pitchers only throwing a few innings and then
and then exiting the game.
So it is a viable strategy,
and the debacks are obviously pretty thin in the rotation right now.
So if you don't want to put too much pressure on Slade,
you know,
to give you a big time length,
then, you know,
the debacks do have some options on this roster to use,
and I think it does make sense to try to explore all of those options.
It really feels like the offense is incapable right now.
We talked about it.
They've had two runners in scoring position in the last two games,
not at all what you want to see.
What's going on with the offense?
And especially, like, you know, I mean,
we know that they've kind of made starting pitchers look good all year,
but it feels like they've been very ineffective against,
like the bullpen against some of these teams
once they move past the starting pitcher.
They jumped on Logan Webb, right, in the first inning.
The debacks had a 2-0 lead within a few minutes.
And then before you knew it, Logan Webb was pitching into the
seventh inning and you know was rattling off one two three inning after one one one hit by
lordis after the first inning for i think logan webb is the remainder of his outing right like i was
telling uh i was telling everybody i was telling this guy next to me uh that chris geriola called it
actually on on the broad on the radio broadcast he had said that you know logan web the diamondbacks
need to get to him early because after the first inning usually he doesn't give up much and that was
exactly the case today i feel like i don't have numbers in front of you know i don't have numbers in
of me, but I feel like we've seen this before where you feel like he kind of got Logan Webb
in the first inning. You're like, all right, Logan Webb, like, this is going to be one of those
clunkers. And then he just does what he did today where he made some adjustments. And we talked with
Christian Walker about it after the game and talked about how the debacks did try to make some adjustments
back. But there's a reason that a guy like Logan Webb is as good as he is. This is the third time
the Diamondbacks have faced him this year. And this is the third time that Logan Webb has gotten 21
one outs in a baseball game this year against the Arizona Diamondback.
So he's been really, really good against the debacks this season.
And that continued today.
They just have a really hard time against him.
And obviously, you know, they're not the only ones.
I've got some numbers for you.
Logan Webb this year in the first inning, 409 ERA,
second inning, a 591 ERA.
And the third inning, a 0.86 ERA in the fifth inning, or in the fourth inning,
a 1.7 ERA
and the fifth inning at 3.4.3R.
A. And the sixth inning, a 2.45.
So precisely.
Wow. The numbers, the numbers back that up.
Yep. And yeah,
I'm not going to say all of those letters, but
the Giants bullpen is sick.
We knew once they, you know,
Duval is one of those shut down closers that
the Diamondbacks wish that they had.
We hope that we have in Paul Seawall, but we don't know
because we haven't seen him pitch yet.
We don't know, Jesse, if we'll ever see him.
pitch. That's the way that it feels right now. I was trying to be rational. I was trying to be
level-headed, but I went completely off the deep end before you joined us. And I said that if the
Diamondbacks can't win this upcoming series against the twins with Zach Gallen and Merrill Kelly
pitching in two out of the three games and Ryan Nelson pitching on the road, I am ready to call
the Arizona Diamondback season dead. Am I being melodramatic? Am I being melodramatic? Yes. Yes, you are
being melodramatic, Derek. That is the easiest question you've asked me so far.
I needed. I needed that. I need you here, Jesse, because without you, my mind wanders and
I think crazy things. We're still a good month out from, I think, playing games that are
absolute must win, at least given like roughly where the Diamondbacks are in the standings
right now. But at the same time, yeah, like the Diamondbacks, they kind of do need to win this
series in another sense in Minnesota. It would be really,
nice if they could come back tomorrow and win the series finale here in San Francisco.
You guys are right.
I mean, those pitching matchups in Minnesota are reasonably favorable.
I mean, I guess anytime you have Zach Gallen and Merrill Kelly pitching in the same series
as well as Ryan Nelson on the road, as you mentioned, then, you know, things line up about
is about as good as they possibly can for the debacks.
And twins haven't played particularly well of late either.
I believe they just got swept by the Kansas City Royals over the weekend.
and we're stuck in a little bit of a losing streak themselves.
So, I mean, the twins might be the worst team the Diamondbacks have played in quite a while at this point.
I guess maybe going back to playing the Pirates right before the All-Star break.
But obviously the twins are still a decent team and the Diamondbacks are going to have to play well
in order to take care of business there.
Well, Jesse, we have one more in San Francisco.
So we will talk to you tomorrow.
Tommy Fam, will he be joining the team and will he be available to play in tomorrow?
tomorrow's game. And should we see him either in the starting lineup or used at some point?
Tori said today that he expected Tommy to arrive tonight. So I'm expecting that Tommy fam is probably
already here would be my guess. We didn't see him downstairs just now. But it's probably
already here. And yeah, I think it's a pretty safe bet. He'll be able to suit up and start in the
game tomorrow. Tori said earlier today, he just had some stuff to take care of before he was able to
fly all the way across the country. Obviously, it's a pretty long.
trek over there from the East Coast. So yeah, I do expect him to be here tomorrow. And as of right now,
like, we haven't really felt the Diamondbacks two primary trade acquisitions, right? Tommy Fam hasn't
played in a game. We've seen a little bit of Jace Peterson, more of a utility type player.
But as you guys said earlier, we haven't seen Paul Seawald pitch yet in the game. I actually
kind of wondered if the debacks would use Seawald anyway in this game. He's on four days rest right now.
I guess now that he hasn't pitched today, he's going to be on five days rest tomorrow.
So you almost feel like you're at a point where like you kind of just need to get the guy some work.
He has a pitch since July 28th with the Mariners.
But yeah, hopefully the debacks are, you know, in a position to win tomorrow's game.
And we can see what that looks like.
Thunderball 407 just called you the Tory of the PHNX fam.
And knowing his history.
I was going to say that's wrong.
I think he might want you fired.
I don't know exactly where that, what that means.
But I'd be careful.
Jesse, we look forward to hearing from you tomorrow.
hopefully after a debacks win
and hopefully after seeing Paul Seawald
come out and get the first save as a member of this team.
But until then,
make sure to follow Jesse on Twitter.
Jesse and Friedman for all of your updates on the Diamondbacks.
And of course,
we appreciate you rubbing our faces
and how good the weather is in San Francisco.
It's entirely too cold.
I never said it was good.
It's freezing here.
You would hate it.
Good.
I hope you hate it.
All right.
I'll see you later, buddy.
All right.
but I just he by Jesse all right well you want to hear something absolutely
terrible that would be why not um med Rosario yeah remember how he was just like not
good no I go you just remember how it was wasn't good yeah and then he got traded
to the the Dodgers and we're like that we saw Lance Lynn's numbers the Dodgers
game so yeah go ahead I mean two for four today with a home run he went over in his last
game game before that one for one game before that four or two for four I don't
I don't want to know anymore.
I don't want to know anymore.
I don't know.
What are the Dodgers doing?
Can we send spies over there to figure it out?
Because I need something.
Like, Keekeh kind of sucks, though?
I don't know.
Didn't he get like a game-winning hit yesterday?
I don't want to talk about this.
I just want to say on my end,
looking at Jesse's like view in the background
with all the seagulls flying around in the background.
Yeah.
That just grinds my gears.
Yeah.
That's so upsetting.
It was salt in an open wound.
Seagulls are the worst.
You know why they're fucking flocking there, right?
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I am ready to see an Arizona Diamondbacks win,
and hopefully tomorrow, I will say this.
You tend to say like one win,
all of a sudden changes things, right?
Yeah, like it can at least.
With the way this series is gone,
splitting the series with the Giants in a four-game series
seems pretty good at this point.
Yeah, I'm not going to say, yeah,
I don't feel like, it's not going to feel like a win,
but it's going to feel a lot better than loss.
I'll tell you that for damn sure.
There'll be something to take from it.
It'll just at least the mindset of like, damn, we sucked and we still managed to get away with that.
Let's try and figure some things out now.
Yeah.
We've had a couple of those recently, so excuse me.
But, of course, we will be back here tomorrow at some point with the Arizona Diamondbacks game ending and us doing a postgame show.
Jesse will be joining us, maybe briefly.
Maybe not at all if he maybe misses his flight.
We're not going to let Jesse miss his flight to be on this show.
I know he's important to the show, but that's why we need him back here as soon as possible,
so we can't let him miss his flight.
But you can follow him at Jesse N. Friedman.
You can follow me on Twitter.
Are we still calling it Twitter?
Is it the X?
They don't even call it retweets now.
They're just re-posts.
Are they tweets?
Are they exes?
And re-exes?
I don't know anymore.
Yeah, they change the button button from tweet to post.
I hate it.
I hate it so much.
Fun fact, though, I found out since I have Twitter blue, I can change the color of the icon
on my phone.
So now I don't get confused because now it's blue-ish.
so being black
That's just for Twitter blue people
Probably sons of bitches
I heard you can also hide your checkmark now
Yeah but I mean if you're gonna pay for it
You gotta fucking own it
That's so weird like
Oh uh cowards
You cowards you cowards
I gotta I'm not gonna sit here and pretend
I don't pay for it
Like just own it
Yeah there you go own it
Well you can follow him at Sean underscore deposit
Whether you has a checkmark or not
I don't have a checkmark anymore
I had one for years
I loved it
I really enjoyed my checkmark
I got a lot of free shit
because of my check mark. I'm not going to lie.
But it's gone now. And so is the free shit.
But you could still follow me a cap underscore caveman
with a K. But none of that matters because we're Damon's
dogs. And that means you have to follow Damon
at Damon dog.
And that's DAWG. And of course, you have
to bark when you fall on.
We all close again, we bark when we're Damon's dogs.
Of course, all roads, though,
lead to at PHNX underscore Dbacks
and at PHNX underscore
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We thank you guys for being here tonight,
for being Arizona Diamondbacks, and sticking
with us after this loss because this one's stung quite a bit. But I appreciate your time on behalf
of this crew. We always thank you for being here. And remember, kids, baseball is fun. But it's so
much more fun when you shove in your major league debut.
