PHNX Arizona Diamondbacks Podcast - So long sand? The Arizona Diamondbacks prepare to unveil new jerseys for 2024
Episode Date: November 15, 2023The rebrand for the Arizona Diamondbacks is happening and we have the details on what their new jerseys will look like. Will teal be a primary color? Is purple back? We are also discussing the D-backs... pursuing one of the starting pitching Infinity Stones of free agency, Yoshinobu Yamamoto from Japan. Do the Snakes actually have a shot at landing one of the biggest arms on the market?An ALLCITY Network ProductionSUBSCRIBE to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/phnx_youtubeALL THINGS PHNX: http://linktr.ee/phnxsports PHNX Events: Get your tickets to D-backs Takeovers, Knockout Nights & Suns Watch Parties at BetMGM, and MORE here: https://www.eventbrite.com/o/phnx-56002330273 Desert Financial Credit Union: Open a free checking account online with Desert Financial Credit Union and get $200 in bonuses https://www.desertfinancial.com/200Get 10% off your first order of Hero Bread at https://www.hero.co/ by using code PHNXSchedule a free in-home estimate with Empire Today! All listeners can receive a $350 OFF discount when they use the promo code PHNX. Restrictions apply. See EmpireToday.com/PHNX for details.Check out all Gila River Resorts & Casinos has to offer from fine dining to Arizona’s largest casino sportsbook. Visit https://www.playatgila.com to learn more.Go to https://saturdayneon.com and use code PHNX for 10% off your order today. Free shipping for orders over $200!Gametime: Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code PHNX for $20 off your first purchase.Pins & Aces: Check out https://pinsandaces.com and use code PHNX to receive 15% off your first order and get free shipping.Circle K: Join Inner Circle for free by downloading the Circle K app today! Head to https://www.circlek.com/store-locator to find Circle Ks near you!OGeez!: Score 25% off a bag of your favorite OGeez! Fruits or Creams. Go to https://zenleafdispensaries.com, add a bag of OGeez! to your cart, enter promo code “PHNX” and pickup at a local Zen Leaf Dispensary. Must be 21+. Enjoy responsibly. Four Peaks: Follow them on social @fourpeaksbrew & @fourpeakspub! Must be 21+. Enjoy responsibly. When you shop through links in the description, we may earn affiliate commissions. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Hello and welcome in to a very, very overlordy edition of the PHNXDVACs podcast.
Of course, my name is Derek Montia, occasionally known as your mayor of PHNX, and I am joined today, not by my vice mayor, not by Sean DePaz, as much as you would think this is Mr. Electric next to me.
Do I look like Sean?
No, it was the electricity you were bringing.
You were bringing some electricity.
It's father overlord Jacob all the time.
Sean and I have actually been asked if we were brothers before.
That makes a lot of sense, actually.
I already don't want this man on the show
So I guess we're just going to have to do this
But welcome in Jacob of course
Welcome in to all of you
We are excited to have you guys here
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
But we do have a lot of laundry discussion to talk about today.
We have a lot of clothing to discuss.
I forgot to move the laundry this morning.
You did, didn't you?
It's just going to get mildewy in that washer.
But anyway, I hope you moved your laundry.
But very exciting news that has become kind of the talk of the town over the last
24 hours. The Arizona
Diamondbacks might be on the horizon
of getting New Jersey's for
2024 and beyond. Nothing
we have is confirmed. There was a tweet that
was sent out that has now been
deleted since then, so I don't know if that
means good things or bad things for
the information provided in there.
But we do know a couple of things
that we've been told. We've heard a couple
of rumors that have kind of gone around
and we know we've seen some things with our own eyes
including the website where
it's
speculation, but sand has gone away.
According to that tweet,
according to things that are said,
sand, this beautiful sand color will only be
featured on the Serpientish jersey.
Which only has one more year.
Under the Nike contract.
And according to the Nike contract,
we know the Serpientish jersey will not
be changing. They can change the pants
and stuff, but there's no alteration
to the Serpientish jersey, like you said, one more
year of that, unfortunately, because
I know a lot of people are
fans of that. But
we do know, at least you could
kind of confirm when going to the Diamondbacks website that the color sand is nowhere to be found.
So that's something.
The other thing you see a lot of on their website is teal.
Teal.
Teal.
A lot of teal.
As an accent like we've seen, because I do know that there was a tweet from, I think, like, two months ago that suggested that teal might be a primary color.
Yeah, I think somebody AI generated a jersey of what it would look like if the Diamondbacks did in all teal jersey.
It had pinched.
It was a bit busy.
Yeah, I prefer, I prefer just like if they use it as an accent.
Yeah, for sure.
So according to the rumors, the primary jersey colors are going to be white, gray, red, and black.
No change to the actual colors, but potentially changes to the shades, like an off white,
like maybe a different color of red according to a tweet from Sun's Uniform Tracker,
who also has been tweeting some things out.
But there are, we know, we are very sure that there will not be a team.
jersey. That's pretty much it.
And unfortunately, there probably won't be a purple jersey.
It sounds like it doesn't sound like the classic colors are coming back,
which is what everybody wants, right?
All I've ever wanted.
I know.
Is for them to go back to purple.
I know.
That's all we've ever.
That's all we all.
They won't.
They won't.
No matter how much we ask, they just won't do it.
One rumor I have heard has been that once the Serpienta City Connect jersey goes away,
that there is consideration or there has been talks to bring back some sort of throwback jersey,
which we know which one it has to be if we're going to a throwback.
This is a fitting time for a rebrand.
It is?
You just made the World Series.
Yeah.
The team is composed of 23-year-old studs.
Yep, absolutely.
I mean, what a better time.
Yeah.
I would also make sense as to one thing that we've kind of put them on blast about a little bit,
which is the availability of jerseys in the.
the team shop, right?
Hypothetically, what you could say is we've seen, like, for instance, Corbyn Carroll,
the only Corbyn Carroll jersey I've seen in the team shop is the Serpientish jersey,
which makes sense because the Serpientish jersey is going to be around this season.
Maybe.
That's an elite tier jersey.
Maybe they didn't draft that jersey.
Maybe they didn't get those into production because, you know, it's a disappointing experience
to go buy a jersey for a guy and then gets replaced.
And that's happened far too often in this team's history.
Yeah. It's like every seven years.
Yeah, like they came out with this.
So they came out with the initial like Sedona Red and Sand jerseys.
People remember it was Stephen Drew, Connor Jackson, Eric Burns, Orlando Hudson.
That group of individuals kind of debuted the new era, right?
They switched from purple to red.
Yeah.
That was the kid.
And then it wasn't too long after that that they were like, eh, these aren't really cutting it.
So we're going to switch.
And then they switched again.
And then 16 or 17, they switched to the gradient jerseys.
and that everybody hated the gradient jerse.
By the way, I attended, I've talked about this before,
I attended the like fashion show.
The bloody sock jerseys.
That they had with the gradient jerseys.
It was wild to be that they had a fashion show,
with a catwalk and everything.
What?
Who in their right mind thought a gradient down to your sock or shoe was a good idea?
Yeah.
No, I don't like that.
But just from the calf.
Yeah.
Don't like that.
Didn't like the hat.
The hat with the gradient.
It didn't even look like gradient.
It didn't make sense.
It just looked like your hat had something
on it or had been damaged of some kind.
But of course, we do know that whatever the change is, I don't think it's going to be
as drastic as people think it's going to be.
No, people always tend to blow these things up.
And they're just never, and they're just never, ever, ever drastic.
And I mean, is part of that too smart considering the World Series thing or would now
be a smart time to strike while the iron is hot and do something new?
I mean, there's obviously a love for the classics in the locker room.
I mean, you saw Zach's tweet after.
they had the throwback weekend where he was like, we should, we should wear these permanently.
Yeah.
And it was like, everybody's like, oh my God, it's happening.
It's happening.
They're going back.
Like, and it's, it's somebody I think pointed out in the chat.
Ernesto said, yeah, he said bum, no purple, but I, it's not a Kendrick thing, but a Nike slash MLB thing.
And I can totally see that.
Nike is trying to continue these.
Yeah, they're contracted to keep these colors.
Like it, for better or for worse, we're stuck with the colors that we have.
Okay.
Right?
That's, that's kind of where we're at.
And there are a lot of creative things that can be done with that.
I just hope they're not too outside the box.
Yeah.
I think traditional is better.
And I think traditional is the way they're going to go.
When you look at the direction, I mean, like, I feel like they've always wanted to add something to it.
Right.
Like I feel like they've always wanted to stand out a bit.
Sure, because there are too many teams that were right.
Right.
Right. I think one way is like again, I think the teal will be incorporated into every jersey design.
And I think that's why we're seeing so much teal. I think that they moved to the home white and teal jerseys.
Right.
Right. They were like, oh, this is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Teal is important. And teal is important. And I think teal honestly looks really sharp, especially like, I think teal and red together as like outside lining around black, you know, and other things looks really good.
So I think I expect to see teal incorporated just into everything and that's that as long as it's used in a subtle way and they don't have a teal jersey
Another weird thing that I've heard is that the red is changing. So it might not be Sedona Red. Are they still going to call it Sedona Red?
Probably not if it's changing.
But it I heard that that they might be going towards more of a red red like just instead of a dark red or like red. I don't know.
The one really interesting thing that I've heard that was part of that mock up that we talked about, the T-O-1, is that the entire name Diamondbacks is going to be featured on one of the jerseys.
The whole ass name is going to be on a jersey in one line, not like it did in the 98 one where it was Diamond with the backs underneath it.
Yeah, the only thing is I worry that is a lot of letters.
Yeah, it's the longest name in professional sports, right?
If you're on Twitter, people want that to be what it says.
They're like, get rid of D-Backs.
It's stupid.
And I'm like, is it stupid, though?
It's the team's brand.
Let's be honest.
D-backs has always been just, I mean, it's, you're just, you're just teeing it up for someone to make fun of you and call you D-Bags, right?
I mean.
Who cares?
I don't, but I'm just saying.
It's too close.
It's too right there.
It's too, it's low-hanging fruit.
It's too easy to give people that.
Billy fans thought that they really had something.
They really did.
They really did.
They really did.
called the D-bags since our inception.
I think the first time I heard it was Kurt Gibson's tenure here when basically they
retaliated to just about any time somebody got hit.
I'm pretty sure that team over the course of like two years got to like six fights,
because they got known as the D-bags.
That was a really fun time in history.
But like I don't know.
I actually like I have never been a hater of the D-Backs moniker.
Like I actually, I really like it.
I think it a leaves room for space on the jersey and B.
I know as a producer,
I know you're a fan of us not giving you too many,
too many characters in one of our titles.
Everybody knows that I'm in this office knows that I am a stickler for space.
Let's see.
There's talk in the chat.
Chris Melton says,
I hate off white,
which,
yeah,
that's been one of the rumors is that the jersey will no longer be the pure white,
which I really like.
I really like.
The white and teal with pure white.
Oh, yeah.
I just think it looks good together.
You run the risk of like, like when they came out with that dark road gray,
I know you're not a fan.
Or maybe it was Jesse that's not a fan.
No, Jesse doesn't like it.
I like the dark road gray.
I really liked when they tried to distinguish themselves with the dark road gray.
So I wouldn't knock the off white until I saw it because like I might be like, yeah,
off white sucks, but then I'm going to see it.
And I'm going to be like, oh, that works.
I mean, sort of like, I don't know.
The jerseys are great and all, but like,
I don't mind when teams change every once in a while.
No, I don't either.
I think it's, I think it's, it provides a nice fresh thing.
So like, don't, it's frustrating when you're a fan.
Yeah.
It's frustrating when you're a fan and you get your stuff, like, you have to buy new stuff all the time, right?
But that's also kind of, I mean, like, we're seeing that in the NBA every single year.
The Suns have a New Jersey every single year.
You have to stay with the time.
You know, it's crazy, right?
Yeah.
But, yeah.
But it's a big part of it, right?
It's a big part of keeping your franchise looking fresh.
I also think acknowledging the past, though, is a great thing that franchises do that the Diamondbacks just don't do enough of when it comes to incorporating.
That's true. Somebody says if they can fit Serpientes, they can fit Diamondbacks.
And that is relatively true.
Sure.
I think there's less letters than Serpientis.
And the font is a little, it's a little more intertwined.
Yeah. He's right.
Their traditional D-Bax font, which I would imagine if they're going to write Diamondbacks, it's going to be in their team font.
Yeah.
The other thing, what was the other thing I'd heard?
oh, about the logo.
They said that I've heard a couple of different rumors.
I know for a fact.
Wasn't there somebody tweeting?
Was it Suns Unitracker that was talking about them going back to an old logo?
Yeah.
And that was the tweet from yesterday.
They basically made it sound like a logo was,
they were going to have a new primary logo.
But yeah, it definitely sounds.
And based on what I've seen in the team shop, it's the D.
It has to be the Snake D.
And the team is the team, does it feel?
I have not been to the team shop in a while.
It was just gone and then it was back.
Like it was gone.
Like,
but I mean,
again,
you know how sometimes they just do that.
They decide,
like even with some of their stuff,
they have a lot of purple and teal stuff in the team shop,
right?
So if you were to go in the team shop,
you would not believe necessarily that this team is going away from purple and
seal.
I guess I was lying to you when I said that I haven't been in the team shop in a while.
I went when the playoffs were going.
But I noticed.
It was chaotic.
It was chaotic in there.
But like,
it was interesting because they did push a lot of retro stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They,
they,
they,
lot of retro stuff.
Right.
Like, it wasn't just like, here's what we have currently.
Like, these are our jerseys.
Buy this.
It was like, no, we've got a little bit of an assortment.
Which leads me to believe that, yes, this is happening.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, there's a lot of, there wasn't just a focus on like their current stuff.
It felt like you could get any of it.
You know what I mean?
So here's one thing that, because the thing they pointed out to on the tweet that was
deleted yesterday was the Rattle Republic website, which I'm going to be completely
honest, I didn't even know it existed until yesterday.
There is a website called RattleRepublic.com
that apparently is the team shop's website, right?
Which is something great for people to know
because we are, I thought we were under the grip of fanatics.com with everything.
Like every time you go to like the Sun's team shop, it takes you to fanatics.
You go to this team shop, it takes you fanatics.
Hell, even WWE is now owned or like is, is, is,
is fanatics own you, Derek?
Well, I will tell you, I'm in negotiations with fanatics to own me.
And should they do so, you're going to have to go through their custom.
service department anytime you have a problem with me but on this ravel republic website uh there
are hats as the primary picture this is this is this is a conspiracy theory it's a conspiracy theory
but when you go to that website the very first hat you see is what there jacob it's the big d
but it's a retro d though i what is why like this hat these the d they got rid of it all together
like because they weren't using it so it wasn't in existence as far as like even doing retro hats
when you go to the team shop you didn't see the d anywhere and now that's it's
the D is back?
It's back.
Is it back?
We'll find out.
The D can be surprising sometimes.
You don't know when the D is going to sneak up on you, you know?
Am I right?
Am I right, you guys?
I get it.
I know you guys get where I'm going with with this.
Going back to your fanatic singer, you can have a bumper sticker that's like...
If you have a problem with my driving call?
No. No, no, no, no.
It's going to be very...
But it's really just like if you have a problem with my personality.
Well, you're going to go to Derek Montia.com and there's going to be a very convoluted path to you contacting customer service first.
That's going to involve you first.
having to like fill out a box and put your email address in there.
No one's going to want to do that.
To answer Cameron down there, he says, what is the unveiling?
Yeah.
We don't, this is all speculation.
We don't.
We don't even know what they isn't availing.
We don't know.
I mean, we are.
We saw some stuff on Twitter.
There's, there's been, and like, all of the talk has kind of gone towards the idea of
the team shop having some new stuff that's supposed to come out.
So, like, I don't know.
I might go, I might go walk across the street to the team shop and see if I can spy on what's
going on. Yeah, there's a lot of things that we don't know for sure. A lot of things that aren't
confirmed. But I don't know. I mean, again, what are your guys' thoughts on this? I always thought
that that Diamondbacks logo, the D logo was good. The best logo is the snake catching the
ball. That, okay, so when I first heard this, I thought that that was the logo. I thought that's what
they were going to go with. But then it sounded more like it was going to be a change. And that can't
really be a change because that logo was featured quite a bit last year. They had a hat with it
and stuff, right?
Ryan Abdelis,
as Big D-E-energy is the Rally Cry next playoff.
Big D-energy.
Let's go.
I love it.
I'm bored.
Like, is there a team in professional American sports that has a better assortment of logos
in the Diamondbacks?
I love.
No, all of their logos are late.
If it is big logo sick and the A logo is sick.
All of those are great logos.
If it indeed is the D logo, I'm going to be pumped because I do like that logo.
Yeah, yeah.
Obviously, I think it looks better in vintage colors than it would with traditional colors.
Sure.
But that's just because of association.
This team can go and make.
the World Series in a D logo that has red and teal and I'll be stoked yeah well and somebody posted
the hat uh from spring training a few years ago when they wore that uh it wasn't it wasn't a team
color specific hat it was just a red you know I think it was a red spring training hat maybe that
all them yeah that one yeah it's an all red the the the D logo right right right so that that that
that probably I mean I don't know it's going to be interesting and it's going to be interesting like
you said with the sand outline in that one,
what do we see, where we see like
the teal outline or something?
Yeah, it could be interesting.
Connor said which D logo, though, the one from 2001
or the D1 from the Sedona Red rebrand?
No, it's the 2001.
It's the snake.
Espo refers to it as the Disney D.
I don't like that, but...
It's eerily similar to...
I think it would be eerily similar to that.
I think that's the one you're referencing, right?
The same snake head that's on Serpientes.
Is that the vintage one?
The joke about like hitting your nose when you look down at your chest has got me to a point.
I can't.
I got verified.
Maybe.
I don't know.
Return monitor.
There is no,
there's no D on my chest.
I don't know what you're talking about.
It's the one that's on the championship TV straight behind you.
That's the one.
Oh, okay.
That's the one.
Yeah, see on Twitter, I thought I saw somebody say that it wasn't that one.
Interesting.
Or at least they thought it wasn't that one.
Well, nobody knows anything.
I really don't think yet.
I don't think anybody knows anything.
I know stuff.
But, I mean, I only know what I've been told.
that I don't know if I can trust those people.
You know, people are liars all the time.
That's the way things work around here.
The sand thing.
Derek, I don't know about it, but you just put a marker on you.
Did I?
Yeah.
You were just like, everybody look at me, and then now you probably should sleep with one eye
open because they're hit men coming to your house now.
That's a wild act.
That's a wild threat?
I feel like that's a threat.
Sand going away as a color, though.
I don't hate it.
Yeah.
I don't hate it.
I didn't mind it, but at the same time, I like to.
teal better. And I think if foregoing sand
means that we get more teal, I'm all about it.
Yeah. And again, I
don't want it to be too much like the Miami Marlins, but I got to admit, the
black with the teal and the red is like, it's just
it looks, you know, like it's like neon kind of.
You know what I miss about Miami? What's that? The sculpture in
centerfield. You do. Yeah. You do.
I mean, what else is out there? They got nothing out there. It's just a big
empty space now. Yeah. Well, it's kind of like seeing the
clock for Chase Field in the garage. It's just in the garage. It's just the way that you and I would
put old stuff that we don't know what to do with, but we don't really, I want to get rid of it,
but I have nowhere to put this thing. So I'm going to put it in my shed in the backyard. That's
where the big Arizona Republic clock is. It's sad. Yeah, you know what else I miss? But they
probably couldn't hide it in a garage. The hill in Houston. Yeah. Yeah. It served no purpose.
This man loves the hill in Houston. Yeah. His favorite thing was the idea of,
outfielders injuring themselves going after a fly ball I mean not injure I'm not
looking for injuries I just like the hill Damon Damon's a different David's a
different breed he's cut from a different cloth but maybe I should have made his
photo or Rottweiler anyways do you think this rebrand would have happened regardless
of the change world series run yeah the world series run yeah okay yeah because it
feels like it was already kind of in the works because they made the change to
home white and teal initially like this year like they went to the white and teal
home jerseys so it already felt like something was coming and
there was too much talk during the regular season of players just not liking the jerseys all that
much and wanting to switch but that's fair hopefully i mean i don't i don't remember if they
actually went and got the players input when it came to the old like when they switched from purple to
siddona red um but typically you involve the players on a decision like this if you're going to
make it so hopefully they brought in like corbin carroll and gabby moreno
So, Alex Thomas.
Zach Gallin.
Zach Gallin.
Hopefully they brought in this group of players that you think, I mean, with the exception
of Zach, because we don't know what's going on with his contract extension.
If he's going to get one, if they're just going to try and ride it out until he's a free agent,
that would be the wrong decision.
What if Zach put into his contract demands that they change back?
Yeah, somebody in the chat mentioned instead of the extra 100 mil.
Yeah.
Just, yeah, here it is.
Negotiate going back to the throwout.
There it is.
Zach Allen contract instead of an extra $100 million.
John gets it.
John's a good negotiator.
We need him negotiating on our behalf.
But speaking of those old jerseys,
what do you say, fellas, that we have ourselves a little snake draft
drafting the best jerseys in Diamondbacks history.
Should we do that?
Yeah.
All right, let's do this.
Damon, you down?
Damon dog?
Yeah, I think I could be down.
All right.
Can you get me a draft graphic up there?
Can we get this thing rolling?
do this. Oh, it's a daemon dog. It's a daemon dog. It's adorable. All right, uh, you guys know
what I'm taking for my number one jersey. We randomized the order by the way. We did randomize the order.
This wasn't just Derek overlording himself. Correct. Correct. This was the baseball gods giving it to me because
they knew. But then the baseball gods listened to me when I said, don't give me second, don't give me second,
don't give me second. He did. That did happen. That did also happen. But now that's kind of feeling corrupt.
Yeah. It is a little bit. Yeah. You can plead to who.
Basically, fuck Damon, basically, is what.
And I will put a dollar in the jar for that one.
I'm cool with my spot, yeah, it's fine.
You know which one I'm taking.
There's no doubt in my mind.
It's the most iconic jersey in Diamondbacks history.
It is the white vest, Arizona A, purple pinstripes, beauty, historic.
The one we won the World Series in.
That's it.
I won this thing already.
They did win the World Series in that jersey.
And the distinct marker for that jersey was always the purple sleeves.
The vest about it.
Yeah, you have the white pinstripes, which is really clean.
Then you have that pop of purple.
Yeah.
And it's like, wow, that's a lot of purple without being a lot of purple.
Yeah.
And my thing too with it is, I mean, obviously there's, like I said,
there's the iconic nature of knowing that the Diamondbacks did what they did in it.
But there's also the idea here that, like, it was just such a unique jersey.
You know, like so few of teams have had a vest jersey like that.
You know, it's not like something every team has had.
And man, it was just the details back at this time.
You know, it was it was the purple and the teal and the little copper accents everywhere.
The little copper threading.
That actually might be my favorite part.
I mean, because I see people rocking these jersey that Chase Field all the time, the throwback jerseys.
And it's incredible.
I like want to touch it because it's just so pretty.
The numbers on the back of them are so incredible.
So yeah, that's my pick.
Damon Don, what do you got for number two?
I am going to go with the black jerseys with the
the classic D that we were talking about earlier
that has Arizona across.
So the full Arizona.
The full Arizona has the little like the teal and purple
freaking accents around the sleeves.
Absolutely.
That's what I think I'm going.
Man, that was incredible.
Yeah, that's a good one.
I don't know what to put,
you could probably put like,
how would you denote this in like two words?
Black Arizona.
Yeah.
That's kind of how what I was wondering as well.
Yeah, I'd just do Black Arizona for that one.
I think everybody would know that one.
See, this is where it gets interesting.
Because I think this team, unlike some teams, I feel like this team has a really like
solid top line of jerseys.
Obviously, you got the white vest at one.
I think that's the pick that everybody would make there.
Sure.
But then you get a little bit kind.
Like, there is a lot going for the jerseys over time here.
So I've had a little bit of a tough time trying to pick what I'm going to take here at three.
Okay.
Because I like a lot of things.
I mean...
Yeah, there's so many.
There's so...
And their top 10, there are so many good.
Including, I know the gradient...
I know the gradient gets a lot of hate,
but there's even a gradient or two that's not bad as well.
Yeah, I think I'm going to have to...
So I think I'm going to have to go with the road gray vest pinstripe jersey as three.
So like the road version of what you picked.
It says Arizona and purple across the front.
Black shirt underneath.
Black shirt.
Yeah.
Black hat.
Yeah.
Copper D.
I think that's a really, really clean look.
And then I'm going to go Serpientes.
Son of a bitch.
Four.
Yeah, Serpienti...
I knew if I didn't get it there, I wasn't getting it on the way back.
You definitely were not going to get it on the way back.
Serpientis is like, I don't want to say a divisive jersey, but it kind of is.
Like, I love it.
I've always loved the Serpientas.
See, but do you like the iteration of it this year where they wore the sand pants, or do you like the iteration where they wore the white pants?
I think I like the sand pants better.
And I think, honestly, I still think they would look best with black pants.
But that's just my personal feelings.
I can see that.
I just never, we haven't seen it.
So I don't know what it looks like.
But yeah, I like that.
Damon, what are you going with?
Well, Jacob, so I just want to say Jacob's a son of a bitch because these were the two picks that I was going to go with from my next pick.
But because those are off the board, I'm going to go pretty similar to the ones that I just went right now.
But it would be the next time my big board.
I'm going the purple jerseys from like.
that 01 era.
Also at Arizona across the front of it.
Yeah, the purple ones are essentially the same jersey, but one's purple, one's black,
great pants versus white pants.
And the purple teal in the middle, that, that, or the teal, the teal Arizona in the middle.
They're hot for sure.
Hot.
They're real hot.
Super hot.
Yeah.
Scorching, some might say.
Scorching.
I'm going to go ahead and jump on that with you.
I'm going to take the Black A Arizona, which is a lot like the Black Arizona one that you
we're talking about. It just has the A on the left side, which I think is a good look. I like,
I like the A. It's, I've always liked the A logo, to be honest. It's always been one of my favorite
logos. So I, I'm going to go with that one. And again, a big part of that one is the accents.
Like, just like the one you pick, Damon, that, that those sleeves are just have always been
incredible to me with the like purple and teal triangles and they have a little bit of copper in them.
It was just, I felt like that stuff just got Arizona so much more.
than this red and white stuff.
I don't know.
Let's see.
Okay, so for my next jersey,
I am going to take the gray pinstripe,
Arizona jersey with the purple in the middle of the,
from 1998, so it was their original jersey,
and it was just their road grays with the pinstripes on it,
and the word Arizona across the front in purple.
All right, Damon, what you got?
So
For this next one
I'm kind of going to piggy back off of that one
And I'm going to go the original white pinstripes
With the white cap
With the ice cream man
So where it says diamond
And then backs
Well the one that
Or the A on the side
Because there were the pinstripe ones with the A
And then there was the pinstripe one
With the diamond back across the front
I'm going to go with the ones that says
I think it's full diamond backs
Because it has the white cap
Yeah
And it's diamond and then back underneath
Yeah that's that's the O'Dstststst
G white. That's the OG jersey.
Yeah.
Hmm. Hmm. You guys left
some options on the table here. Sure did.
All right. I'll be
the first person. I mean, I guess I was already
the first person to take a modern jersey. I'm going to go to
home white and teal. Yeah.
Home white and teal is solid.
I mean, how do you hate the home white and teal?
I do not hate the home white and teal.
But then I feel like I got a big vintage
here. Okay.
I feel like
I feel like I'm, I don't know.
I feel like I'm, because there's also some terrible stuff that could be taken, which I've got to be careful there.
Yeah, I'll do the other one you were talking about.
I'll go the home pinstripe with the A.
The A, the snake A.
I do pinstripe A.
Teal name and purple letters with the teal outline.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think I think I have one of those as well.
It's fairly iconic itself.
now this is where things get really tricky
it is oh there's some nasty nasty stuff now
yeah uh there's some really bad things
because i'm like i'm just going through them
and this now it gets difficult because there's some really bad jerseys too
like the deep backs probably have the i would say over any team
they have like the biggest discrepancy between elite jerseys
and just dog shit jerseys like there's a pretty wild discrepancy there
I think I'm going to go with the blacks they wore this year.
I think that's what I'm going to go with.
Okay.
The black, the red black.
Current black.
Yeah, the current black, the red black that they have with the A logo.
I can dig it.
They were clean.
Yeah.
They were clean.
It reminds me of the black logo that, you know, or the black jersey that the black A jersey that Derek took.
It's basically a pretty like modernized version with the new colors of that, I'd say.
So I think that's what I'm going to go with here.
I like it.
I am going to go with what might be a very unpopular choice here, but I'm just going to go with a choice that I personally really, really liked.
I think I know where you're going here and I really like that jersey.
It's the dark gray road jersey when we had the gradients with the teal.
It had the black lettering with the red around it.
and the teal around the outside.
Oh, demons not a fan.
They are hot.
They were the only gradient jersey that looked good.
And while I don't agree with any other part of the gradient design,
the caps, the stupid pants, any of it.
The bloody sock jerseys.
The bloody sock jerseys.
The dark gray was so subtle and it was cool looking.
I'm looking at it right now in a Goldschmidt jersey.
And I want it right now.
I want it right now.
It's on sale for $40.99.
Am I buying?
My mom and I used to argue about these jerseys,
all the time. I hate him so much.
Your mom liked him? Yeah.
Your mom is, your mom knows what's up.
She knows.
She knows. Art, Ray and Seal is hot.
Yeah, see? Yeah, Derek just got. Yeah, that's what I got.
Yeah. That's what I got.
One more?
Yeah.
All right. Where do you even go from here?
Where do you even go from here?
Yeah, I mean, you've got to go kind of out of the box here.
I want to steal the one I know Jacob is going to do.
Because I know which one he's going to do for a fact.
But I think I'd be a real piece of.
a shit if I did that. So I'm not going to do that. Instead, instead, I am going to, let's see,
there was another. Are you thinking the out of the box one that I was going to do? Yeah. Yeah. I'll
let you take that one. Yeah. Thank you. Actually, again, I like, I'm a big fan still of the black jerseys.
I'm going to do the Los DeBacks jersey, even though I'm not a fan of the Loz DeBacks moniker from 2020
because I thought it was a hot looking jersey. It was black with, uh,
Red Lose D-Backs.
It was outlined in teal.
I had a teal number.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I liked that one.
Yeah.
I mean, it was just really good looking.
So we'll just go black Lose D-Backs.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know if Damon's going to nap mine off the board here.
So I have a question about black Lose T-backs.
Yeah.
Sure.
Because when I, the pictures that I've seen of it, there's no, there's no teal on it.
It's sand.
Yeah, there's teal on it.
There's teal on a certain.
It was a 2020 version of it, but you might have been.
looking at an earlier version of it. I'm looking at it right now I think yeah well it's it's part of
my article which is a comprehensive so I saw your article and I was looking through it because you're
a cheater and I know that's where you know that's where you're what you're going with yeah
before this draft we established you could look at that list yeah we did establish that
that was an established rule of this draft as a guide I couldn't remember all 27
jerseys this team yeah no shit Damon what do you got so uh did they what about
those spring training vests that they wore with the snake that wrapped around the the whole look up turn
ahead the clock jersey that's yeah yeah you're allowed to take that because jacob was about to he was
about to take that the one you were about to yeah i was literally about to send photos in slack and be like
damon i need you to put this turn ahead yeah that's brutal that's terrible it's terrible that's brutal
That's brutal.
Yeah, turn ahead the clock.
I sent some photos in Slack, Damon.
Turn ahead the clock jersey.
Turn ahead the clock.
Yeah, I didn't even include that one in my list.
Yeah, I sent some, I sent a picture in Slack.
You can go take a look at it.
I mean, I feel like you can send it.
Honestly, if you want to put it on the moving background too, so we can show people.
Yeah, because people might have missed out on that one.
People don't really, I don't think they know, a lot of people know this jersey.
Somebody in the chat actually referenced the turn ahead the clock jerseys.
Yeah.
Is that how you found it, Damon?
No, that's actually not how I found it.
I was just looking at jerseys and I was like, I actually like this jersey because of what it's attempting to do.
It's actually sick.
I'll throw images up there on Twitter of some of this stuff.
So people, because I think some people are looking for all of the jerseys.
I just stole all the black.
Yeah.
Good job.
What do you got?
All right.
I had to dig because that was, I was really trying to go out there with my last pick.
I was really excited for turn ahead because I figured there was no chance.
that Damon was taking that.
I'll go the Sedona Red and Sand.
I think the Sedona Red that has the all-sand debats.
I think it's a really distinct look.
Yeah, it was a big part of that run.
I mean, those were like the first, like,
truly different jerseys that stood out, right?
Because, I mean, they had the white and the gray back then.
And I could go with, you know,
I could go with the road grays, like the current road grays.
So you're going like the Aaron Hill era.
Yeah, Bingo.
Exactly.
Yeah, 2007.
Yeah, those are the ones.
ones they're pretty late actually there we go Ernesto requested that somebody get the turn
ahead the clock jersey I think that's how Damon maybe picked up on it perhaps I don't know
literally did not see that okay somebody said just saw turn ahead the clock that's awesome yeah you
should put those on I sent the photos in the moving background yeah we'll get those on
but man I'll tell you this is gonna be interesting because oh and we will like I said we'll
put this up for everybody to vote on so you can all tell me how I won yeah I think
I think there's a way we can do this where we can also include photos yeah for sure
Why don't we read off our lists for the audio list?
For sure.
All right.
So Derek ended up with the white vest, the iconic white vest with the purple shirt underneath.
No, no, no, no, no, no, pandering.
You just read.
Black A, original gray with the pinstripes, dark gray and the teal, and then the black Lose Debax, which was Sedona Red, Teal and Black.
Damon has the black Arizona with the purple in the middle of the, he has the purple alternative, which is the same jersey, but purple with teal.
Original white with the pinstripes.
he has the current black jersey
and then the turn ahead the clock jersey
Jacob has the gray vest
he has the Serpientis jersey
he has the home teal
which that's the home teal a right
or the home pinstripe a
I think it's no the home
teal is the current home teal
oh the current the white yeah that's right
pinstripe a is the next
and then the Sedona red and sand
Jacob has quite a variety there Jacobs
could be like an actual lineup
itself with the with the variety of damans mine's got a lot of black
ternetons would be the most like holy shit they really went out of the bottom they
really went for it they really went for it they went for it so all right we'll put this up
on Twitter for you guys to vote on who you think I want show the people though this is
the turn ahead of clock jersey yeah these are hot that's electric I'm a big fan
there's a lot of weird jerseys out there but that one that one takes the cake no number
on front no nothing huh no
I'm a big fan of that.
The name goes sideways down the side.
Look at that.
The name goes crazy down the side is what the name does.
Yeah, that's for sure.
All right.
Well, again, we'll put that out there.
And we will have more information on the New Jersey's as soon as that happens if it does happen.
Because, again, we have no confirmation if the debacks are, in fact, changing those jerseys.
But it would appear that all signs are pointing towards something happening with this team and a little bit of a rebranding when it comes to 2024.
So keep it locked right here for updates on that as that news becomes official, hopefully, sometime here soon.
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and what they're going to do through free agency with our free agency frenzy segment.
And of course, without Jesse here, it allows us to go insane.
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And I don't even know if you would have allowed us, permitted us, to do a topic on today's, I guess, guest star, if you will.
But we are focusing on the Diamondbacks potentially acquiring Japanese pitcher Yoshinobu, Yemobu, Yemort
Motto from the oryx in Japan.
He's good if you didn't know.
If you haven't heard, he is very, very good.
In fact, he's one of the hottest free agents in MLB right now.
Might even be, you know, nobody's hotter than Shohei Otani, but his impact is going to be more immediate,
considering that Otani won't pitch in 2020.
Yeah, I mean, he's not going to get the 500 mil that Otani's going to get, but he's going to get a nice little chunk of change.
He sure is.
I mean, you have the type of year that he has.
had. He's got three no-hitters in his career. He's only 25 years old.
25 years old. And he's just an absolute stud. Stud. Stud. Yep. Well, let's take a look at what his
stats were last season in Japan because they are impressive. Is that good? It's very good. That is
hashtag good, Jacob. 171 innings pitched 17 and 6 record a 1.16 ERA. Ski-e. Ski-Y. A whip of zero
0.86 and then a strikeout to walk ratio of 176 strikeouts to 28 walks.
His delivery is a little funky.
It is.
But like, but, but I dig it.
Like this can the control, like what you just mentioned is the, the strikeout to walk ratio is pretty insane.
Yeah.
The control that he has.
This is, I mean, this is your top end starter.
I wouldn't even bat an eye to say that if you bring in Yoshinoviyamoto, you're probably
think about it. He's your number one. Yeah. I mean, it's tough to say on a team with Merrill
Kelly and Zach Gallen, but if you get a guy of this stature to join that pitching staff,
you are immediately the best pitching staff in baseball. Three guys that could be number ones and
any other team, you are the best pitching staff in baseball. Brin fought as your four. Oh,
that's crazy. That's crazy. That would feel good. That would feel good. I know a lot of options that we're
talking about aren't nearly as expensive as Yama.
MyCost, and now there are a lot of teams that are in the mix.
We had this tweet from August that gave us some hope.
Can we show, do we have this tweet, Damon?
This tweet from August basically said, this is from Michael Marino and MLB.
He said sources.
The Mets and Diamondbacks are two teams expected to have strong interest in Japanese starting pitcher Yoshinobu Yamamoto.
Should he be posted after the season, which we know now he is?
many more expected to be in with a contract exceeding $200 million a strong possibility.
It's quite a bit of cheddar.
Quite a bit of cheddar.
And that's not.
You also have to think about the posting fee as well.
Yeah.
Because you're not only paying the contract, you're paying the posting fee.
Yeah.
And the Diamondbacks have consistently ranked in the bottom third of MLB as far as the luxury
attack and pay roll and things like that.
But you and I talked about this earlier.
It almost feels like this could be one of those sneaky things that they do,
Kind of like when they signed Granky.
Yeah.
Right?
Like this one.
The Granky sweepstakes, it was, it was Giants or Dodgers, Giants or Dodgers.
It wasn't a giant, was a Giants, Giants, Giants, Dodgers.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then all of a sudden it was like, oh, by the way, the diving back signed Zach Granke.
Yeah.
And it was like, where did we get $212 million?
And I mean, to be fair, Zach Granky, even though, like, for some reason, his time here is remembered, like, he wasn't very good when he was here.
But Granky was no bumgarten.
Or Zach Granky put up some impressive numbers here in Arizona.
It was just.
I guess you could say the rest of the team around him,
and they still weren't too shabby at all.
He was at number one.
He was here.
He had one bad year and the rest of his time here,
I'm pretty sure he averaged like a 3-3-0 year.
Right.
Which is, that's number one numbers.
But it's like somehow he gets combined in with Madbom,
like as if they were just both like colossal failures in minding.
That's not true.
It wasn't even close.
It wasn't even close to the disaster that Madbom was.
Don't think the Grankeet trade turned into Paul Seawalt.
So he's not wrong.
He's not wrong.
Do you guys remember when, uh,
Every spring training, we were like, oh, Zach Grink, he's throwing 87 miles per hour.
Yeah, he doesn't care.
It's a rat for his career.
There's no way.
It's over.
And they'd come out there and have like a 3-2 ERA and you'd be like, let's walk you.
Yeah, he's like, pump in 94 again.
And you're like, oh.
So it's like a 40 mile per hour, Ephis.
I mean, I'll tell you.
Yamamoto does throw a pretty good fastball, mid-90s, 93, 96.
He also has a splitter, a curveball, a cutter and a slider.
He's your traditional, like, he's your traditional Japanese.
pitcher. They have all the tools.
Just a huge arsenal. I mean, U. Darvish
is the same way. He's got like nine pitches.
So the nice thing is you just never know what you're going to get.
Like that's the biggest thing that they have going for them
is that they can throw the kitchen sink at you.
It's the same thing I love about Merrill Kelly.
He can throw the kitchen sink at you.
It's so hard to game play on a pitcher that can use any pitch in any count.
And that to me is what Yoshinova Yamamoto is.
Yeah.
Like he can use any pitch.
any count. Yeah. And I mean, he was incredible for
the oryx and he's going to potentially be incredible for any team that has
interest in him. It would be great if it's us, right? But the Mets do have interest in
him and there is a little bit of a problem there because apparently
Cody is a guy and he knows him personally. I'm pretty sure
who shares, there are a couple of people that share an agent with him, I'm pretty sure.
I'm sure there is.
And then you also have the Yankees being interested.
You have the Dodgers.
You have all the biggest teams in baseball.
You have, you know, the boss of Red Sox are interested.
You have everybody interested in them.
Yeah, Connor, Connor points it out.
But the economic windfall and not insignificant investments into the team.
That's the thing is that that's.
I'm willing to drop $2.50 on a guy like this.
I think if, look, if of any of the areas you address you're going to spend money on,
it needs to be the starting pitcher.
We've already talked about the options at third base,
and I think we might have covered all of the options at third base already,
and we haven't even been doing this very long.
So it just goes to show there aren't that many out there,
and the one that's going to cost the most in Matt Chapman probably isn't worth the money
that it's going to take to get Matt Chapman.
But meanwhile, starting pitching.
I know that, but I'm just saying, like, starting pitching,
I feel like is where you need to spend the money,
especially with what we saw this team do.
You need a three.
You need.
I mean,
thoughts are good three,
but like,
you know what I mean.
If you can move everybody down one,
then that's also good.
Like,
it killed them to do that bullpen game
in the World Series.
Yeah.
It just absolutely killed them.
It killed us.
It killed us.
And I mean,
it killed baseball.
People were furious,
like as if Tori Lavallo
had some sort of other option
and he just opted to fuck with them
by going with a bullpen game.
Like,
have you not been paying attention to this team?
We literally didn't even have four starting pitchers.
And in hindsight,
Ryan Nelson looked great in that game.
when he came in, but who knows if he would have pitched like that had he started.
Now, let's think about the track record of where this team has found success in their signings.
And oftentimes, it is not the flashy sign.
It's true.
I mean, talking about Merrill Kelly, that was a, like everybody's like, oh, Merrill Kelly is probably a four or five.
And now you look at Merrill Kelly.
You're like, oh, my God, I could not imagine not having Merrill Kelly on this team.
Yeah.
He's probably a one on a lot of teams, which is pretty crazy to say,
considering most ones, they at least are touching 96 or 97.
And he just does it.
He just, I don't know how he does it.
He gets soft contact.
He locates like a mother.
So it's just like it's,
Merrill Kelly was such an underrated signing.
And this team has found a lot of success in signings like that.
So if you're looking for somebody from the Japanese baseball league,
and I'm going to, that's kind of a hint is where I'm going here.
There is another under the radar name that is getting posted more than likely, and that's Shoda Immanaga, I think.
It doesn't have a phonetic pronunciation on here.
Shoda Amanaga.
Yes.
He plays at Yokohama.
And in his career, he's in over a thousand innings pitch got a 296.
He's only 30 years old.
He's a left-handed pitcher, so that's – this team has a plethora of right-handed pitching.
Yeah.
It's always nice to have a lefty that, I mean, Tommy Henry's good.
They just added Blake Walston to the 40-man roster so that they could avoid him being drafted in the Rule 5.
It's interesting because I feel like so many teams are going to get caught up in the Yoshi sweepstakes that, like, I think Chota might get lost.
You know what I mean?
And you might be able to swoop in and get a really, really solid three for not as much much.
I think the difference there is because Yamamoto has become such a big name now as far as amongst baseball teams.
Like his price is going up.
The number of years you're going to have to pay him is going up.
And you just don't know what you're going to get out of either of these guys in Major League Baseball.
But if you have any concerns, looking at their career numbers is a pretty goddamn good place to start.
And when you look at Yoshinobu's career numbers, Jacob,
He has a 1.72 ERA in his career in five years of pitching in professional baseball.
It says a lot that he was the one that started the World Baseball Classic championship game.
Yeah, you're absolutely.
On a team that featured Roki Sasaki, Shohay, and he's who they chose to start.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
So I just don't know how feasible it is.
And honestly, I think that if you're asking me, you know, and you see these other teams,
teams that are connected to him.
The Diamondbacks, even though they were one of two teams that were originally
interested in him, aren't even in the top ten connected to him now.
So who knows how this is going to play out?
But like you said, the Granky deal, we didn't see that coming either.
The Diamondbacks kind of swooped in out of nowhere.
So maybe they can do that.
And it wasn't like it was even announced, like the only announcement before that
Granky signing was there's a special third team that like has jumped in at the last second.
And it was like, oh.
Well, there's no way it's the Diamondbacks, right?
Yeah. Surprise. It was. So, but yeah, I mean, there's a benefit there as well because if the Giants, if the Giants, if the Dodgers, if these other teams are interested in him, there's a competitive advantage to also stealing him away from those guys. It just, it doesn't seem very likely even with the economic windfall and all of this stuff based on the fact that this team still doesn't really like committing large sums of money like this to an unproven.
talent. Like, I feel like that's the bigger problem is. But again, that ERA for his career,
I don't, I don't call that unproven in a league that is as competitive as major league baseball.
Yeah, and you were talking about strikeouts versus walks for, um, for, uh, Yoshi. Yeah.
But it's the same, I mean, it's the same way with, uh, Shoda. He, I think he had 188
strikeouts to 24 walks. Well, and that could be, his was even like, the margin was even wider there.
And see, that could be such a Mike Hayes and,
thing to do to not go after the big gigantic name and then well he might pump up yeah he might pump
that he's going after yoshi but like he's like well i'm pumping this because i want everybody to
focus on that like this team is the splashy signing isn't always it like as much as i would like
if they get yoshi don't get me wrong i'm going to celebrate with the best of them because that would
be insane um but i would not be unhappy if they were to go after shodah let's not forget corbin carroll
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overall pick in the draft
right he was number 16 so sometimes
teams make mistakes and they pass up on guys
Pavon Smith was seventh just keep that in mind
oh god okay Corvin was 16
moving on
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More than likely I think he ends up on the Mets
Yeah
Because Kodi I'm pretty sure
I'm pretty sure I've seen an article
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Or trying to draw him over to New York
The Mets starting rotation next year
Doesn't look very good right now as far as
That could change real fast
I forget the loss of a baller
Yeah for sure for sure
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I don't know when I laughed at the Dodgers for getting cheated out of a World Series.
I didn't agree with what Houston did, didn't think they deserve that World Series.
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But speaking of things, we didn't win.
We can also talk about the National League Manager of the Year award because...
I don't want to.
Well, we're going to.
I don't care if you like it or not.
This is what we're doing.
But Skip Schemaker of the Miami Marlins is your 2023 ML manager of the year.
Once again, proving one, that Jeff Passon doesn't miss.
And that whole thing with the email that he said he had him in order.
It wasn't in order.
He didn't put it out in order, at least for that one category.
But also, it's well deserved, right?
I mean, of the guys that were there as finalists, I feel like Skip.
I'm sure so I don't get fine,
Derek.
Did the most, I know, I know, but did the most with that Miami Marlins team.
Yeah, Sean tweeted this out, our famous Mr. Electric, he tweeted out, like, what are we doing here?
Yeah.
Skip, really?
I mean, he had the same record as Tori.
I know.
And one more games two years before.
And arguably, like, if it was to go to anybody, like, give it to Craig Counsel and I'll be like, okay, like, yeah, it's a regular season award.
But if you're telling me, it's a regular season award and you give it to a guy that had the same amount of wins.
Yeah.
As Tori Lavello, I'm a little bummed.
That's, yeah, and that does frustrate me as well
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They made the playoffs.
Did the Marlins lose 100 plus games two seasons ago?
Did they rebound that fast from one of the worst seasons in team history?
Sure, Tori Lovallo was at the helm of that season,
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But anyway, let's take a look at the full ballots because the voting was all over the place for this one.
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Essentially, he was the fourth place finisher.
That voting does not look like the rookie of your voting.
No, it does not.
This is all over the fucking place.
These guys, again, like we said, I mean, there wasn't anybody that really kind of stood out as a manager.
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They were also a team that did it with some veterans that they picked up.
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Like, you got to give flowers, I guess, to somebody.
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Yeah, it's dumb.
It's a dumb award.
I just heard of it.
Yeah, I get it.
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