PHNX Arizona Diamondbacks Podcast - Starting pitching sinks Diamondbacks, losing two in a row to the Dodgers

Episode Date: August 30, 2023

After getting some stellar starting pitching in their series win against the Cincinnati Reds, the Diamondbacks dynamic duo of Zac Gallen and Merrill Kelly both falter in their first two games against the Los Angeles Dodgers. We recap the Dodgers still having the D-backs number, discuss a wild day for MLB waiver moves, and more!An ALLCITY Network ProductionSUBSCRIBE to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/phnx_youtubeALL THINGS PHNX: http://linktr.ee/phnxsports PHNX Events: Get your tickets to D-backs Takeovers, Knockout Nights & Suns Watch Parties at BetMGM, and MORE here: https://www.eventbrite.com/o/phnx-56002330273 WIN MONEY THROUGH SPLASH SPORTS: https://www.splashsports.com/phnx Head to https://factormeals.com/phnxdbacks50 and use code phnxdbacks50 to get 50% off.Go to https://saturdayneon.com and use code PHNX for 10% off your order today. Free shipping for orders over $200!Gametime: Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code PHNX for $20 off your first purchase.Pins & Aces: Check out https://pinsandaces.com and use code PHNX to receive 15% off your first order and get free shipping.Circle K: Text PHNX to 31310 to join the Circle K SMS subscriber club and get BOGO 32 oz Polar Pops! Head to https://www.circlek.com/store-locator to find Circle Ks near you!OGeez!: Score 25% off a bag of your favorite OGeez! Fruits of Creams. Go to https://theflowershopusa.com, add a bag of OGeez! to your cart, enter promo code “PHNX” and pickup at a local The Flower Shop dispensary.Four Peaks: Follow them on social @fourpeaksbrew & @fourpeakspub! Must be 21+. Enjoy responsibly. When you shop through links in the description, we may earn affiliate commissions. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Well, that absolutely sucks. Welcome in to the PHNX feedback podcast right here on PHNX. My name is Derek Montia, occasionally known, or soon to be once again known as your mayor of PHNX. Shane, I'm coming from my sash. This man next to me that's nodding his head, no. He's still filled with electricity. It's Mr. Electric himself, Sean DePaz. No.

He's just not happy. He's not a happy guy. Nobody, nope, nope, nope. And nobody really should be as a Diamondbacks fan. after watching them absolutely get outclass tonight by the Los Angeles Dodgers. They got beat in every facet of the game. They lose by a score of 9 to 1. And as far as we are concerned, it might have well been 90 to 1 with the way that this game went.

But one thing I do want to say is that Elise hit the nail on the head with her comments that started off the show, which said, Zach and Merrill having arguably there were starts of the season on consecutive nights was something I did not see coming. The offense tonight against Kershaw was not surprising. And you're right. It really is the story of the starting pitching in this one and the fact that the Diamondbacks got just such terrible outings from the two guys that they could typically rely on. I mean, this was in a way this series was the reason why we saw Merrill Kelly get moved to essentially the two. slot in their starting rotation was because the Diamondbacks wanted to have their best one-two punch going into this series against the Dodgers.

Yesterday's game was, again, arguably one of Zach Gallen's worse, today's game, arguably one of Merrill Kelly's worse. And I think the, you know, the only thing that's, I guess, not surprising there is it's against a Red Hot Dodger team that has been doing this to everybody. So it's like from that perspective, maybe a chance. just the opponent. Maybe it's just a reminder that right now the Diamondbacks are not on the same level as the Los Angeles

Dodgers. I'm sorry, I didn't hear a word you just said because Maria is in the comments and we love you Maria because we literally were just talking about how we appreciate your viewership. But the thumbs up, Corbyn hit into Homer's great though. Don't patronize me, Maria. He's upset.

He's upset. Tell us we're dog shit. I'd much rather that than being like, oh, buddy, at least you got the Homer though. He kind of, we suspect Maria might be Moe in in disguise.

We don't know for sure. But seriously, I mean, this is like, it doesn't matter. Obviously it sucks because this team is in a wild card race, right? Every game is important.

And so, and especially, I think everyone still has a very tenuous relationship with the Diamondbacks at like being a good team because of the dark times. And so I don't, I think every time they lose, especially if they lose bad,

there's a slight kind of like, like you get more flashbacks. You're like, oh, boy, I hope this is it. Is this what this team is? And so that, that sucks. But any time you get your ass kick by the Dodgers, it just really, really sucks. Like, it doesn't matter what the context is.

When you lose like this to a team like the Dodgers, it is just not, it's just, it doesn't make you to enjoy baseball. Like you didn't, I wasn't enjoying the sport much tonight. I didn't care. Like, I wasn't. I wasn't having any fun. No, we wanted to start this show halfway through. Yeah, I didn't even the 6th is.

Yeah, we were mentioning it. Yeah, Jesse Friedman, though, he is in Los Angeles. He'll be coming to us live from Dodger Stadium here in a little bit. And because of MLB broadcasting rights, we have to wait so long for Jesse to be able to join us from the stadium. We're not going to send him all the way to California and have me worry about smoke detectors, not having batteries in them,

and him drinking enough water just to not have him on the show. He refused to do it from a bathroom with his car. to his car, we said, can you find a phone booth? He wasn't committed. He didn't even try to find a bathroom. Or maybe you could argue that he was more committed because he actually wanted to watch the rest of the game. I don't know.

Who was less committed, though, whether it was Jesse Friedman or Merrill Kelly. Because Merrill Kelly was committed to the suck. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's wild is Merrill Kelly almost got out of the first inning without giving up a run. It was a double play situation. Go if he had. Yeah, like it's like we went into an alternate reality at that point.

Yeah, that's where we went into. to the darkest timeline for tonight's game. Merrill Kelly, very close play at first base for a double play to get out of the inning. Instead, Max Muncie is safe. The Dodgers go on to score three runs in that inning. And those three runs alone were enough to get past the Diamondbacks tonight. They didn't need to pile on and add six runs, six extra runs on top of that, but they did. But Merrill Kelly, flat out terrible tonight.

12 hits allowed. He went five innings, gave up seven earn runs, walk three, struck out one. I mean, this team is not, this team is a complete joke if our two starting pitchers are not starting pitching, if they're not new and the thin. Yeah. Like if they're not, if Merrill Kelly

and Zach Gallen are not being Merrill Kelly and Zach Gallen, this team is not dangerous in the slightest. And I think, obviously Gallen, you know, is the Cy Young guy, but I think you kind of mentioned this earlier when we're watching the game, or maybe the statement I'd ever forget, but Merrill Kelly, like, you don't see this from

Merrill Kelly. No. Like, exact gallon, we were, I think, had gotten accustomed to, like, some of his starts not being the prettiest. Even if they ultimately are good. Like, him having a bad outing, I don't think was, like, came completely out of left field. Yeah. We had seen him be, be vulnerable, especially on the road this season, obviously, right? You hadn't really seen that from Merrill Kelly. Obviously, he had got hurt and he was out for a while and he dealt with the different injuries and stuff like that. But it's from a before perspective, like, he's the mainstay. He's always kind of good. And even it, you know, like, you can, maybe he'll give up. three runs or something but he's still going to go six seven like he's still going to be ultimately a solid start he's the mainstack it felt like it felt like after that three run first inning that he

was going to get things back yeah yeah after that it didn't feel like the game was out of hand by any mean because it's meryl kelly right but this was this was not a meryl kelly start he was he was bad through and through he really was um i mean he he just was ineffective that can happen with this too yeah and i mean like you said the zack galen marro kelly thing back to back right Zach gallen uh you even when you look at the loss yesterday for zagallon he was not good in the game in game one but uh a you know a big part of that was that he gave up a lot of home runs uh yeah you know zagallon gave up more home runs in that first start than i think he did in like the first half of his season um but he gives up four home runs which is a career high uh but he really

struggled in that game and after five innings he had only given up three earned right And that's really where I guess you could question Tori's management of the Zach Gallen outing because he much like, much like Merrill Kelly tonight, he just didn't have it. And yet he had still limited the damage like Gallen can do to only giving up three runs. And he comes back out in that sixth inning and he gives up three more. And he just was completely ineffective from that point on. He got one more out. I know Moe was being a troll.

And when he brings this up and he mentions how the Dodgers or Merrill Kelly is the only pitcher at ever start 15 games because the Dodgers never won a game. He is 0 and 11, right? But genuinely, I wonder how much, like at a point where you're 0 and 10 and in 14 starts against a division rival, the team that this team and a fan base hates the most, that's got to get in your head. I don't, like, I feel like that's got to have some kind of mental effect, or at least the potential for it to be there or to have a mental effect is certainly there.

So, like, I'm curious if, if, like, this, like, this was a very uncharacteristic Merrill Kelly outing, right? And I'm curious how much of the fact that it was in Los Angeles against the Dodgers, how much that in particular outside of the fact that the Dodgers are just a really good offensive team, how much that that matter. That's also the thing. They've got two MVP candidates. They're going to do this to a lot of, they're like, this team should win the World Series.

The Braves also have two MVP candidates. Those two teams should meet in the NLCS and they should do what the Dodgers did to the Diamondbacks tonight every single day against every single other team in Major League Baseball because their lineups are that good. And they don't because that's how baseball works. but like, um, but they can turn it on like they, they, they, they, I mean, and like most said. What they did they done recently. Yeah. Oh, I know. Mookie bets. He's a lot of it. And we, we didn't even think that that was the chance, right? I mean, again, I don't mean to go back, but it was kind of a laughable bet when I said, hey. Ronald Acuna is a runaway favorite. They actually

have the ability to take the field. I laughed in your face. And I understand it. But it's like one of those situations where it's really hard sometimes for one guy to hold on to it when you're giving me the option of the field and everybody else. There's so much can change. There's so much can change, right? Just, I mean, just an injury could impact that in a huge way, right? Not to say I'm wishing that upon him, but just that one way. But I mean, motherfuckers stormed the field and I don't think they didn't attack them necessarily.

Why? Like, let's. Are we, can we talk about it? Okay, let's talk about. It was one of the weird things that I've ever seen happen on a baseball field. We were talking about this earlier. Like, for those of you that are unfamiliar in the middle of a game, not one, but two fans. We didn't plan on talking about this.

Ran up to Ronald Acuna Jr. It was so weird. And what did they do? They hugged him. So, yeah. So one guy ran out and he hugged Acuna and like as Damon and I were talking about earlier.

You see that in soccer like on a not a frequent basis, but it's something you've seen before where like fans will run out and they just, they really want to meet the star. And obviously they're going to get tackled by security and escorted off or whatever. They're aware of that.

They're not expecting a warm welcome. There's a risk reward situation. It's a generally, like, pretty kind of a genuine interaction. They want the hug. They go without much trouble, whatever. So this guy goes up, and he hugs a cunia. Coonia seems to, like, hug him back. Like, it seems like a relatively tame situation.

Then a security guard. Security guards come up. And also hugs him. And kind of hugs him by, like, he grabbed. Yeah. Well, that's the thing I didn't understand. The security guard came up and, like, hugged him both, right? Yeah.

Like, he was holding them together. Like, it was like a, like, like, a sandwich. Yeah. And then another security guard comes up and grabs the, it grabs the, It grabs the quote-on-quote attacker. The attacker. By like the waist. But like,

falls to the ground as he do it. So his legs are like limp behind him as he's holding on to his guy's waist. And like kind of getting pulled. And then out of nowhere, fan number two comes in. And I don't know if those two people were connected. This is where it gets weird. I don't know if those two were connected. I don't know if there was some greater plot here.

I like to get real conspiracy theory. I don't know if the first guy's job was to hold him down while the other guy came in and did the damage, but I don't know if there was... It felt that way. Or my other theory, yeah, I did feel that way. My other theory was that a guy, like I had mentioned again to Damon earlier.

David and I talk a lot. They did so much all the time. I mentioned earlier, like, if it was a kind of thing where this one fan goes out there, sees that gets a hug from Acuna and this other guy's like, oh, Acunae's giving out hugs, like, let's go. Yeah.

And he joins. Obviously, that guy never makes it to Acuna. Well, he kind of does. But the thing that's weird about it is the everyone's like, oh, Akuna fell to the ground. The only reason Akunya fell to the ground is because the security guard whose legs are limp holding on to the first guy's waist behind him, tabletops wrong with Akunya. The other guy comes in. He tries to back up and the security guards like laying on the ground.

And so Akunia trips over him because he's being weird. It was odd as shit. Also, as some people are, motherfuckers are getting shot in the stadium in Chicago. So it's just, it's a crazy time to be doing baseball. What was really weird to me was the way they were carrying the second guy out. Yeah, like he was flailing like crazy. He was rabid. He was wild.

Like that second guy made this whole situation so much weirder because I don't understand. It was a different energy than the rest of the situation. At first it was like, it was like wholesome. Yeah. If that guy had gone out there and hugged Acuna and they, you know, those three guys come in, they pick them up, they take them away. It's like, oh, look it. There's no reports about Akuna getting attacked

Like there was which is absurd by the way He was not he was not attacked There was certainly an incident but he wasn't attacked Make it sound like someone came in like Tanya Harding bullshit more importantly I want to throw some shade At the Colorado Rocky security guards because that was a fairly That was a fair like you're supposed to protect people right You understand that concept where like you've been training thank you give me that music

You've been training your whole life for this moment. In most cases, you go how many fucking games without getting a chance to tackle some fucking room coming out of the stand? You had your chance and you just fucking blew it. Like, what are you waiting for? What were you doing? Why not?

This is your chance. You've been, like, you've supposedly, as a security guard, you don't have a lot to do. You're born. You're waiting for some action. Here's your action, pal. You've dropped the ball. Also, storming doesn't usually happen.

like in between innings when security guards are on the field surrounding the field of play. You're not all. You fell in see with the wheel? What are we doing there? Like you're on the field already. You're creating like a force field essentially. And you're just letting these guys just scurry onto the field. And then you're going and you're fucking grabbing your leg tackling, arm tackling guys at the waist.

Like me playing backyard football in high school because I was weak and couldn't fucking tackle. So I just try to grab people and triple basically. And you ended up tabletop it's the best player of baseball. Yeah. Like, you've set such a bad precedent now. If I want to hug, Shohei Otani, I'm doing it. I know I just need to buy tickets to a Rockies Angels game. Trash.

And I'm more athletic than the motherfuckers. You're not catching me. Yeah, that's true. Since we're just angry, when did we become best friends with the Dodgers? Can we talk about that? Oh, yeah. When did we all become best friends with the goddamn Dodgers? Fucking play the music again and going around.

Yeah, you talked about the goddamn rivalry. There's no rivalry here. The Dodgers are. don't consider us a rival. They have bigger fish to fry. They have the Houston Astros. They have the Braves. They have actual teams

that they have a rival arena. The Boston Red Sox. Not us. Not with us. But you know what? When did we become best friends with them? When do we have mooky vets coming over here? Fucking big grab ass on second base, Patel.

Coming over here, still on his muscle. I thought it was adorable. Yet David got me all fired up without it. When I came in here, I was like, did you see what you tell in that 170 mile laser? And then Moogie had like, And Damon, our producer, is not having any of it. It just makes me sick.

I mean, this is supposed to be our most hated rival. And everything you see in terms of contact between the two teams is, is lovey-dovey grab-ass bullshit. Gallin and Corbitt on Mookie's podcast. It's important that I am not throwing an ounce of shade at Mookiee bets or anyone on the Los Angeles Angeles. You're the best, you're the best team in one of the best teams of the National League. And I can't meet them. They don't care about us. We're the little, they don't give a shit about the Arizona Diamondbacks.

So go be chummy. You're about to win an MVP, I don't give a shit. You're like to tell Marte, you're the rest of the Arizona Diamondbacks. You got to know what this rivalry means to Diamondbacks fans. You can't be out here with a smile on your face while you're getting your ass kick. Christian Walker doing an interview where he's praising Clayton Hirschild. Unacceptable. We want you talking once again, as the Whopper song says, about you being his father,

not about respecting him. This isn't about respect. you can tip your cap at the end of the career but for now I want you to hate each other I want you to hate each other with the fuel of a thousand sons do you have anything to add just the whole Clayton Kirshaw thing

with Christian Walker oh he's so good Clayton's awesome you own him why don't we uh you know I can't wait I can't wait to go over to Clayton's house and have a have a nice family dinner with his kids and his family it's ridiculous that's another thing you own that motherfucker why are you looking for reasons to praise them

And that team is so goddamn good. You don't need to create bullshit. You own Clayton Kershaw. Don't start praising him like he's some great pitcher because he is. But as far as you're concerned, he's fucking not. Because yet again, you own the motherfucker. Yeah. It's bullshit, dude.

I'm hot now. I'm hot. I mean that in a literal, I'm hot. I'm at 11. I'm in the red. He did and I am toasty. But we did have one man who said the day. Pedro, God knows what's going on.

Yeah, Pedro. Kingstink. Let's give our king steak out. I know what you're going to say. Does anyone deserve it? Of course, someone deserves it. It's Corbyn Carol. Corbyn Carroll absolutely deserves it.

Corbyn Carroll has been incredible for this team lately, and he continues to be incredible. In his last nine games, Corbyn Carroll is hitting 15 for 33. 15 for 33. Sounds pretty good. Remember when people were being like, are we sure Corbyn's going to win the rookie of the year?

as long as Maria comes in the chat Outman deserves more credit And then there's a bunch of these fucking Hillbillies in the backwoods of Kentucky That are Reds fans being like Ellie De La Cruz And Matt McLean

Fuck yourself Who? Ellie De La Cruz isn't even the best rookie on his own team Bum Right I mean he's not even the second best rookie On his own team But that's the truth

Get out of here My rookie to year Yeah Sorry to call you out again Maria Yeah. We do have more bad news. Do we by chance to have the updated wildcard standings? Because like, let's just, let's rip the band-aid off.

John's making a good point, by the way. You don't see Tommy fam smiling. That motherfucker's here for the win games. He's not out here smiling. No, he doesn't smile. I hope he does rip the clubhouse on that subject. We're looking at the current wild card race. Great picture.

And now what we have is the Phillies with a five game now lead on the final spot. They continue to win. Cubs, one game lead on the final spot. Now in the final spot for the Wild Guard is the San Francisco Giants, 69 and 63. The D-backs fall a half a game out of the hunt at 69 and 64, followed by the Reds at 68 and 66, and the Marlins at 500 at 66 and 66. So this sucks, and it really doesn't mean much. Like, we already kind of chalked up, I think, both the Rangers series and this Dodgers series

has a potential as potential sweeps. Yeah, right. So, you know, I mean, again, it's... I was playing with how it's money to a certain extent based on expectations. And really, it's not about beating the Dodgers, right? Yeah, like, you know, this is our division now. This is our division for the rest of the season. And the Diamondbacks just need to find a way to beat these teams that they still have games against.

That's the important part here is their series with the Giants. They have a lot of games against the Cubs. And they even, I think, you know, the biggest thing, they have some winnable series in there, but they still have some difficult, you know, games to play. play ahead. You know who I would really want on this Diamondbacks team? Gansby motherfucking Swanson. That'd be awesome.

It'd be really cool if they could figure out a way to get him to be a part of this organization. That'd be awesome. Did you know of the four short stops that got the big contracts in the offseason? He has got the cheapest and is leading in war and OPS over Trey Turner. Who else? Who are the other big short stops at sign? This is it. Xander Bogartz.

And there's a third that I'm blanking on. But there was four of them. I saw a graphic of it earlier because I was watching the Cubs game was on TBS. And he's like, it'd be really awesome to have that guy. The Cubbies, they're coming. Like at this point, it's a, it's a battle for the, they are here. Yeah, I mean, they're coming for the central. To me, this is a competition for that last spot.

And as long as they are closer to that last spot than they are to the team behind them, I guess, I'll be okay. Yeah, yeah. but like I'll still I'll feel good right I don't want to I don't want to drop any further than being that first spot out especially at this point you took care of business against the Reds you got a game and a half lead you're giving thunderbolt extra reasons to be upset and he doesn't need extra reasons to be upset but I will say that yeah the diamond backs that this is this is rough but again much like we've said in the past there's ups and downs this season and right now might be a down but they're not out of it they're still playing meaningful games and They are going to play meaningful games throughout the entire month of September. So make sure to, you know, stay engaged with it. I feel like I need to clarify because one thing I'm not going to be able to live with is people thinking I'm an idiot and I'm not.

I do know that they drafted Dan v. Swanson. I want to make that clear I was making a joke. I know they drafted Danesbyswes. It wasn't a good joke. It was just a hurtful joke. I thought it was an okay joke. This is like when Jesse says LOL in our group chat and Damon says, Jesse, I fail to find the humor in this. There's no joke.

But half the time, Jesse's not making a joke. He's just being like this is funny. Jesse, he probably thought tonight was funny. He did. He's hilarious. No, it's not, Jesse. Anyway, well, you know, one way to make baseball more fun is by gambling on it over at the Draft King Sportsbook app.

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Yes. This one hurt. The Seawall 30 pitch nine-thitting special daily hurts because it's true. Oh, yeah, no. But also he was talking, he was trying to bully us for dropping a game to the Reds.

as if like teams don't lose to other teams in professional baseball. Especially teams with a winning record. Another team in the wild card. As if the Giants didn't lose two to the Reds earlier this year. I mean. I mean, like it's not a, I mean, it's just, that's my one thing. Like, I'm all here for talking shit. You're not.

So what the fuck doesn't matter? Sorry. Don't talk. That's way too bold to talk shit to a Giants fan to say they're not going to be in the playoffs. I know. Wait, is it an even year? It's is an odd year. I'm just saying.

all right okay valid valid valid all right but i'm just saying you can talk your shit because like i said the seawab 30 pitch 9th inning special that's that's that's that hits that's a great that is a great fucking this you fucking got us cuts me deep cuts me deep uh we have some more things to debate because as if we don't have enough stuff to argue about around oh yeah we argue about bread around this place so uh and don't get this guy started on bagels not being bread because he'll fucking use his mind but i'm more upset about at this point the the the argument being mischaracterized than being then the argument itself that's all i have to say yeah that's fine um but see that's i'll see you get we're so we have so many arguments that there's levels

there's levels there's levels to this uh but uh right now right on go p hnx dot com every day this week you can get our top 25 all-time athletes in arizona sports ranking that's dropping this has been a collaboration with us in the office with other uh sports personalities around the Valley. From the state. A few people down in Tucson, too. Yeah, that's right. We gave them a little bit of a say in this.

But, of course, we're dropping five at a time per day this week. We got through the top or the first five, so 25 through 21, essentially. No diamondbacks in there. But that's because, of course, just based on the fact that diamondbacks have delivered the only major championship in this state's history. There should be, of course, a lot of diamondbacks on this list. And they should be relatively high. So we had our first Diamondback drop today, and that would be at spot number 20. And that person, that individual, is none other than the controversial, Kurt Schilling.

Yeah. And Kurt Schilling is, you know, obviously a huge part of that Diamondback's team. Oh. And won the World Series. They would not have won it without him and Randy Johnson. That's just facts. But you also have the fact that this man just while he was here was completely. was completely dominant, was completely dominant.

Oh, yeah. I mean, he had, I mean, 2001 was one of the best pitching season. Like his 2001 was one of the best pitching seasons of all time. Obviously, so was Randy's. But, yeah, like, and I mean, listen, when you bring up cursorily, you got to bring up all the other stuff that comes with him. I'd be remiss not to. I think it's important to point out that these rankings are really just based on what

happens on the field. It's a completely different conversation. if we're talking about the Hall of Fame, because I think part of the, part of the criteria for the Hall of Fame is how you represent yourself and represent the game. And obviously, Kirt Shilling has not done that well.

And if you disagree with that, go fuck yourself. But as a baseball player, it's undeniable how talented he was. He was one of the best pitches of all time, and he was obviously instrumental in delivering this team, their only major professional sports championship. So it's, it's, undeniable that if you're ranking the top 20 athletes to play in

Arizona based on what they did on the field and only on the field he honestly might deserve to be higher if we're doing this just based off performance. But I get that it you know there's human beings that put this ranking together and it's ultimately going to be impossible

to get people to completely separate what he's done off the field and you can make the argument that they shouldn't have to because it's absurd but again we're basing it's just on what he done in the field because again, let me make this clear fuck Kurt Schilling through and through fuck that dude

he's a piece of shit but he was also a great fucking baseball player and you can't you can't pretend that he wasn't and thanks for the ring I have a lot of people also yeah thank you for the ring if you're gonna be a piece of shit at least give us some

I have a lot of people that ask me like what did Kurt Schilling do exactly and I mean that's for you to look up on your home but Mo Moe hit it on the head Kurt Schilling also top 25 bigot of all time there's just this thing about Kurt Schilling that he just had this inability to stop in his mind, or I guess even in his own words,

being truthful about the person he is and the things he says. But that involved him saying a lot of anti-Muslim stuff, retweeting a lot of anti-Muslim stuff, saying anti-transgender things and stuff like that. You know, just at times, typical old-fashioned thinking that even if you feel that way, you should probably refrain from saying public,

when you are part of ESPN or part of MLB network or any of the other stuff, right? But see, Thunderbolt 47 says it's the baseball Hall of Fame, not the Life Hall of Fame. And I mean, that's the thing is he may be a garbage person with a garbage point of view, but so are a lot of people, right? Let's be honest. There's even other people on this list that you could say things about or nitpick about in their personal character, but they don't get scrutinized as much as Kurt Schilling. I don't know if it's just because Kurt Schilling was so defiant about it or so non-apologetic about it,

like literally losing jobs and opportunities and just stick into his guns about how much of a, you know, anti-this or anti-that kind of person he was. But I feel like Kurt Schilling does get penalized quite a bit when it comes to that. And it's not to say he doesn't deserve it because you're, you know, the opinion about the character of the person is important in these situations. But as far as his performance goes, you have to say, separate that. And like the weird thing about it and Sean brought this up to me when we were talking about this list is if you're talking about Kurt Schilling as the person, then he probably shouldn't even be on this list. But if you're talking about Kurt Schilling as the athlete,

he should probably be hired. Yeah. And the fact is is that the character I think kind of brings him down to this point. It is tough. It is kind of a little bit of an average spot. Like I think kind of an average of, you know, people who are obviously really leaning heavily into he did off the field and leaning heavily into what he did on the field. And that's just the real, like, this is just, this is just what happens when you do professional sports. Like there's people who are going to be pieces of shit and they're also going to be really, really fucking good at the sport.

Correct. And that was the case with this guy to the nth degree. He was the biggest piece of shit and also one of the greatest to ever do it. And again, we are in the business. of covering sports. Like you got to talk about how good he was at the sport. Yeah. So, yeah, I think, I mean, let me ask you this.

If we're talking just about based on what he did on the sport, where do you think he should realistically be in a ranking like this? I personally think he should be in the top 15. I was going to say top 10, yeah, because. Because of the contributions to that World Series team and the fact that. A top three most important player on the only championship winning team in this country or in this city's history. I mean, he had a sub three ERA in an era where that just didn't happen based on the offense that baseball players were putting up.

I mean, he led the league in games started for the Diamondbacks. He led the league innings. 256.2 innings the year that they won the World Series. And so there's just a lot of categories there that he led the league in. He gave up the least amount of home runs in the National League. I mean, he was just, again, co-MVP, got Cy Youngboats, All-Star, all that stuff. But whatever.

I mean, it's, it's, the performance should, like, speak for who the athlete is, especially when you're talking about this stuff. Yeah. Our next athlete on the list at number 17. Who, again, if we're basing, was based on what they did on the field, should be below. Probably higher. Probably.

Well, you say below. Well, I'm not necessarily lower than where he is, but he should be below Kurtzelling. Yeah, and that's an interesting take on that. And that, of course, is the beloved Paul Goldschmidt. Paul Goldschmidt comes in at number 17 on our top 25 all-time athletes here at PHNX. Six-time MLB All-Star, four-time Silver Slugger Award winner, three Golden Gloves in his time here with the Diamondbacks.

Hank Aaron Award, he led the league in home runs in 2013. He was pretty good. Career number with the Diamondbacks. He slashed 297, 398, 5.000. 32 with a 930 OPS in eight seasons. Pretty damn good. And the Diamondbacks traded him away for those guys that you know who he traded away. He could be considered by far the best draft pick ever in Arizona history as far as value is concerned.

He was picked in the eighth round of the 2009 MLB draft with the 246th overall selection. Also, more importantly, he was originally drafted by who, do you know? I do not. The Los Angeles Dodgers. Oh, wow, I did not know that. And because he was drafted so late, he opted to go back to, you know, back into the school and then come back in the draft. He brought the energy we needed tonight. He really did.

Screw him. Yeah. Paul Goldschman said, fuck the Dodgers. You rod energy. I'm a diamond back. Yeah. No, not even I'm a diamond back. I'm just not a fucking Dodger.

You know what Paul Goldschmidt wouldn't be doing? Going to fucking Mukie Betts' kids' birthday party this weekend. Like the rest of the fucking diamond backs are. Yeah. No, I mean, this guy is obviously. Damon's hot. This guy was a fucking stud. I mean, is was for this team. I mean, he was the best player that this team had since that World Series team since obviously,

Curt and guys that you can probably reasonably expect to be show up on this list later. Also, Pedro mentioned it. Tony Womack does deserve an honorable mention. You're not going to see him on this list. But yeah, I agree. He definitely. I still remember, I think it was that NLDS. Yeah.

And he was such a piece for that. being integral to the only championship in this teams in the city's history but um i think the thing that's holding goldie back from being higher on the list is the performance of the team around him right yeah and i think the fact that he is kind of more of a cardinal now i know i think he's done so much and we kind of had this conversation the other day about uh well i don't know if it was him get the fuck out i know go get that was retired his number right now i don't need you but like i think at this point he He has had such a career outside of his career as a Diamondback that it's, you don't, people don't even think of him as a Diamond.

Like, it's hard to kind of conceptualize just his Diamondback's career in the entirety of all of the stuff that he's accomplished. I get what you're saying. So like, I feel like that might go, even though it shouldn't, it might hurt him a little bit in these rankings just because they're like, you're not really, I think there's a certain amount of, and it's hard, it's hard when you have a lot of different people on these rankings because everyone's going to take a unique approach to it. Like, I think the impact, definitely impact on Arizona sports,

definitely played a role in how some of the people voted in this. And I think when you have an impact after Arizona sports, it's hard to think of you as an Arizona athlete. And whether or not that's fair is another conversation, but I don't think it ultimately mattered, yeah. Maria, that person that's angrily coming after your Dodgers is Damon Dogg on Twitter. That's DAWG in case you wanted to. find his

Also, all these Dodgers fans, man. Oh, you guys have no reason why I might not like you guys. Like, seriously, you win the division every fucking year. We're not going to sit here and be like, oh, this is fun. Yeah. Guess what? I'm not one of the Diamondbacks. I don't want to hold the fucking Dodgers hands.

And like we said, like I at least I said earlier, you know, I get that it's not a two-way street. You don't have to hate us. We know what this is. You're the big brother. You've got bigger fish to fry, but you are our big fish. Yeah. We're going to hate you because you're in the way.

Until the end of time. And you constantly beat us up. Yeah. We don't care about what else you got going on. To us, you're the world. But you know what's funny is in the last 23 years, we have the same number of World Series titles. That's,

hmm. If I could pick this mic up, I'd drop it. That's true. Yeah. Yes, Maria, you should. That's a pretty good idea, no? That would be, you should. So much.

You guys should try suck it. See, that's what they want for you. Maria. Don't. Just try being shit. We'll try. No, I wouldn't mind. I want Maria to stay as sweet and wholesome as she is, and I want her to not be pulled down into the muck with you animals.

I want her. I would feel so much better. Just give it a try, right? Just give it a try. Just see how it works. But we will be talking more about, of course, this pH and X ranks list. Somehow, did John hack our website? How do you know the next?

How do you know where Luis Gonzalez ranks on our list, John? We have to have a talk after the show is over. What did John said? John said that Luis Gonzalez is on the list. He's number 11, and I don't know how to... Who's the op out here, bro? Yeah. Are you a fed, John?

Are you a fed? Anyway, well, like I said, we'll have more on the top 25 list here soon. But in the meantime, I'll tell you, one thing that can bring all of us together, whether we're Dodgers fans or DeBax fans, is edibles, right? We can all get together on our other ones, right? OG's brands is the best edible in the state of Arizona, is actually Arizona's number one selling edible.

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15 through 11 is already up there. 14 through 11. So, yeah, we'll talk about Lewis Gonzalez. Well, we're going to have to talk about that. But in the meantime, we are still talking about our decision on whether to have the fruits or the creams from our friends of OGs. From our friends with OGs. I had strawberries and cream for the first time today. Fantastic.

It's the best flavor. I know. I've, for the longest time for years, it was the orange creamsicle. Orange creamsicle still very good. For probably like a solid two, three years since recreational marijuana was legalized here. The orange cruxicle was my go-to. And then, you know, pink lemonade showed up and took the cake.

And now it was a short-lived drain as the best because they have been betrown. Yeah. Well, they were also limited addition. They haven't seen the pink lemonade. That's also true. So they, I guess I needed to be rethrothed. Yeah. But I will say this, no matter what you choose, there's something magical about OG's gummies.

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certificate for Mountain Mike's and it is a franchise. So we haven't been specified whether it's one location, but I'll tell you what, I will get an answer for you on that, and I will hopefully have that for you on tomorrow show. Speaking of the show, we have in our green room, the one and only, Jesse Friedman. John changed his name.

Screw Jesse. John changed his name. Oh, he's toilet. He's toilet now. Oh, no. The reoccurring character is gone. Jesse, things are weird in the chat. This is what happens, I guess, when the Arizona Diamondbacks get pummeled by the Dodgers like they did in such amazing fashion like they did tonight. What's going on there at Dodgers Stadium and what I imagine things aren't super,

super happy with the starting pitching out there. Yeah, not exactly. Merrill obviously, you know, bummed that this is what happened. Merrill came in 0.10 in his career against the Los Angeles Dodgers. He is yet to earn a win against this team. And after today, he is now 0 and 11 with a 5.49 ERA. Things have not been pretty for Merrill Kelly in this ballpark against the Dodgers in general. It just has not been a good combination.

And, you know, he kind of explained why he thought that was. The Dodgers are the kind of team that just doesn't really chase out of the zone all that much. And Merrill Kelly sort of makes his living on that, right? He doesn't have the kind of stuff that necessarily plays in the zone quite as well. so he's trying to get you to swing it, you know, change-ups, you know, down off the plate. He's trying to get you to swing it and sliders off the plate, that kind of thing. And his command was certainly not there tonight. His just general ability to execute pitches was not there tonight.

That combined with the Dodgers already being, you know, one of the best teams in the sport at avoiding swinging at those kinds of pitches. It just, you know, continues to be sort of a losing combination. Merrill actually did pitch pretty well against the Dodgers earlier this month. I think it was on August 9th. He had a start at home against the Dodgers, six scoreless innings in that one, only two strikeouts, but the results were good overall. And after that outing, he was asked,

do you feel like you've turned a corner or something facing this Dodgers team? And he was like, well, this is only one outing. For all I know, I'm going to give up 17 runs the next time I face him. Oh, no. Fortunately, it was not 17 runs, but it was seven runs over five innings,

far from ideal from Merrill Kelly and the Diamondbacks tonight. Obviously, it doesn't sound like there's any injury concerns, but I do know that Merrill was maybe trying a new hydration regimen. Any chance he had too much water, Jesse? He had to pee the whole time. Was it too much water? Is it like, do I have a new thing to worry about with you telling you to drink too much water? I don't think so.

He spoke highly afterwards of the work that he, did with the nutritionist and taking care of that issue. He said that not even the thought of having cramping issues even entered his mind during this game. So, yeah, that was not at all a contributor to his struggles in this game. It was just, you know, the Dodgers continuing to be one of the best offenses in the game. And things haven't been great for either Gallen or Merrill in this series. You look at their numbers combined 10 in a third innings, 21 hits, 13 runs, all of those

and six walks, four strikeouts. Those are astounding numbers against one of the best one-two punches in the sport up to this point in the season in Zach Allen and Merrill Kelly. The Dodgers have made it look easy the last couple days. Is this one of those situations

where you feel like it's more of the Dodgers just coming in here as hot as they've been? The Diamondbacks are not the only team that the Dodgers have absolutely outclassed over the last two weeks. So it really feels more maybe like the Dodgers were just kind of on a roll versus the Diamondbacks really looking as bad as especially tonight looked. Yeah, I mean, the Dodgers are just in a different class, right?

Like the Reds are a decent team. The Reds are a good team. But the Reds are not the Los Angeles Dodgers. And I know a lot of people, I think, have been kind of hit with that reality. The debacks have held their own against some of the better teams in the league in the last couple weeks, right? They, you know, they swept the Texas Rangers and, you know, the Padres were a team that, you know, I think that that team has a lot more talent on their roster than their record indicates. But this Dodgers team is is not only extremely talented, but very much clicking on all cylinders right now, as you said.

So, yeah, it's, it's tough. I mean, I asked Zach Gallen yesterday, you know, how good is this team? How good is this lineup? And he talked about seeing a stat about, you know, that the Dodgers having the best record since the trade deadline. And I haven't looked that up myself, but that feels like it's probably true. Then in the Mariners, I imagine, would probably be up at the top of that list. But yeah, this is just an incredible baseball team.

And, you know, the D-Backs losing two out of three here or whatever the result winds up being. You know, the Dodgers are the Dodgers. What happened? I'm sorry, Jesse. I don't mean to be dying. there's a bad chat man there's a battle between guys named John going on in the chat and one gentleman changed his name to toilet

and now realized that he's stuck with the name toilet for the next 14 days apparently according to YouTube's terms and agreement so that's hilarious and that's what I'm laughing about definitely not laughing about the pathetic performance by the Diamondbacks tonight out there in LA. But speaking of Los Angeles teams that are on the opposite end of the spectrum from the Dodgers being as good as they are, the Los Angeles Angels look like absolute fools and we can at least be thankful that we are not fans of that team, right?

Because this waiver madness that has occurred today is something. And I just, I'm kind of flabbergasted by what the angels did. Here is the tweet, according to Jeff. pass and the Angels have placed starting pitcher Lucas Gialito, relief pitchers Matt Moore and Reynaldo Lopez, outfielder Hunter Renfro and outfielder Randall Grechuk on waivers, making them available to teams in contention. Yeah, Jesse, what's going on with the Los Angeles Angels?

I mean, I will be, to be fair, they're not the only ones. There are a number of other teams that, you know, made some moves here as well. I also think Dominic Leone was later reported as being part of this group. His name isn't even here. But yeah, focusing on the Angels for a second. I mean, they literally did in one day. I mean, they put about a quarter of their roster on waivers. And it only compounds the issue knowing that the Angels not more than a month ago expended like some serious organizational assets in order to get some of these guys.

Like they traded a pretty darn good catching prospect to get Lucas Gialito. He joins the team. He had an ERA of about seven and it's high sixes, six or seven starts, something like that. And now the angels are turning around and putting him on waivers and he's just going to walk and they're not going to get anything other than just not having to pay that portion of his salary the rest of the way. So yeah, it is, I mean, the full picture is absolutely abysmal. I will say, I guess there's something to be said for, you know, sort of cutting your losses. Like, I think we all know that the angels are not going to make the playoffs at this point. So it's maybe not worth it.

Yeah, they have an opportunity to potentially get under the luxury tax threshold by doing all of these moves, by getting this money off of their books. So it sort of does make sense in a way from their standpoint now. But the full picture of the optics are absolutely horrible, giving away. what they did to get some of those guys and now just just letting them walk. What do you think this means for show hey or do you think this means anything for show hey? Like do you think this has any attachment to that either the fact that they're like you're cutting costs when you're about to have to pay this man the biggest contract in baseball history or they're clearing costs so they can pay this man the biggest contract in baseball history? Or maybe.

Yeah, I was I was talking with some people today about like like well why did the angels stop there? I mean all these guys are on expiring contracts. and they put them on waivers. Why didn't the angels just put Shohei Otani on waivers? As long as they're trying to save money, right? He's on an expiring contract too. Yeah, that suffice it to say that would have been taken significantly worse than these moves were. But yeah, I don't think it necessarily says much.

I mean, to be honest, I don't really think the angels have a, I don't think they have a great chance to bring Shohei back at this point, given the way that their season is materialized. And they were trying to push in the chips and see if they could make a playoff push, see if they could convince Shohei Otani to stick around. I think the future of their franchise very much hinges in some ways on that happening. It made sense for them to go all in. But it didn't work.

And at this point, trying to cut some costs down the stretch, get below the luxury tax threshold, you know, I think that that is a sensible move. But it doesn't really, to me, it doesn't say much. of anything about what's going to happen with Otani this winter. Chances are he's probably going elsewhere no matter what. And like you said, they weren't the only team that made some cuts today. Mike Clevenger was released or waived by the White Sox. I mean, Jerkson Pro Far, waved by the Rockies.

Carlos Carrascoe, way by the Met. So like, there's a lot of guys available out there. One thing, I believe, who was it? Carlos IP said that, that the diamondbacks are playing a little 4D chess with this loss, right? You got Jose Rivera out there pitching against the Dodgers, right? They're dropping back below the Giants. They want to just get one more game back, maybe get back below the Reds,

just so they can pick up some of these guys on the waiver wire. Yeah, well, if Jose Herrera starts tomorrow's game, that's amazing. Then lift him boil hats really come out. Then they're tipping their hands a little too much. Yeah, I mean, it is a weird position. I don't know how much you guys have maybe talked about this already, but the way that this process works is these waiver claims are going to be processed in reverse order of record. So the worst record you have, that's what's going to decide.

So Lucas Gialito is out there. Some number of teams is going to put a waiver claim on Lucas Gialito. Out of all those teams, the team with the worst record, that's the team, the worst record of that group. That's the team that's going to come away with that guy. and I did some digging today, and it appears that there is no limit. There is no limit on this process. So if the Miami Marlins, who are a contender that is still on the fringes of the postseason picture, but they also have a worse record than basically all of the other teams in contention,

the Marlins on Thursday could have Lucas G. Alito, Hunter Renfro, Mike Clevenger, they could put in claims on all these guys. and chances are they could get just about whoever they want. The flip side of that is that, number one, you do have to assume the salaries of whatever player you get. So it's your responsibility as the claiming team to pay that. So if you put in five waiver claims, you might not get all those guys,

but you better be prepared to pay all those salaries if somehow you do get those guys. And the other part of this is you have to be prepared to make roster moves. You're going to have to clear space on your 40-man roster for however many guys you get. So if you're the debacks, this isn't just a matter of like, all right, let's put in 17 waiver claims and see what happens. Because if 12 of those wind up hitting,

suddenly you have to clear like 30% of the guys on your 40-man roster, which obviously they wouldn't be able to do that. So you have to kind of weigh, all right, how good are these guys compared to what we already have in-house, who are the guys we'd be willing to part with, you know, and who are the guys that we want to make sure we hold on to you no matter what. So it is a little bit of a delicate balance in some ways, but it's also straight madness in other ways where, yeah, there's no limit teams can just put in however many claims they want and may the worst team win. Yeah, the idea of taking a flyer on Gialito hits a lot different.

Well, it hits a lot different if you're waving someone at the bottom of the roster. It also hits a lot different if you end up waving a Zach Davies or a Nick Ahmed or something like that. then we probably could sign me, pick me up on waivers if it meant cutting one of those two, the fans would probably be happy. Yeah, I could bribe the pine, and as long as I'm taking one of their roster spots, they'll be fine with it.

I think it was Austin back there in the chat. He had said waiver claims are going to be absolute chaos this next week. That's absolutely true. Austin also made some fucking insane comment about James Outman being better than Corbyn Carol, and you're going to act like we didn't see that earlier there. I mean, we can... I mean, if we want to do this now, we can just do this now. We're ready to do this at all times.

We have this staff. No, I mean, there's... Ready to go at all fucking times, you guys. There's not a whole lot to say here. All as I'm saying is, is it for the people on audio, this is a direct head-to-head comparison of Corbyn Corbyn versus James Alman over their careers. Yeah.

And more importantly, more importantly, more importantly, the little green fucking sections. There's just a lot. That does to know where Corby and Carol, where one guy is better than the other guy. And it's just, I know it might be confusing because the entire Corbyn-Carbun-Ribon. side is green, but we just wanted to fucking put it up there in case we wanted to have this

discussion because Corbyn Carroll's coming for that on-base percentage too. He's going to take everything from James Outman, including his happiness. Yeah, I just want to put that out there. I just want to put that out. All right. I mean, I don't have much to add to that. It's just a fact of the matter is that Corbyn Carroll is quite literally better than James Outman in every way.

He's also more attracted. He's better than most of us in every way. He makes more money. He drives faster cars. Yeah. He gets more attractive. of men or women, depending on what they're into. He's just better in every single way. He's just a better human being than us. I mean,

and he's nicer to us than we are to him. That's the fucking weirdness part. He's a better in every way. Jesse, you made some comments, though, about Merrill Kelly on the Dodgers, and we actually have this clip that you provided with us of Merrill Kelly on what it's like to face this Dodgers team. What is that taking? He said that he believes in me. He believes in me. Against the Dodgers. I mean, I believe in myself against the Dodgers. I mean, I believe in myself. I believe against myself against any team. I just think this is a team that you can't really afford to have an off night. Unfortunately, I've had a fair amount of games like that, but they do a good job of

control in the zone. They do a good job of not swinging that balls. You know, I kind of make my money on trying to live on the edges and get people to swing it. Maybe balls that they shouldn't, trying to get the weak contact that type of stuff, and this team does a good job by not doing that. So if I'm not doing a good job of throwing strikes consistently and throwing quality strikes. You know, like I said, I'm going to have some bad days against these guys. But, you know, I go into every game thinking I'm going to win. It's not like I ever go against the Dodgers men, just chalking it up as, well, let's just get my head kicked in and then walk out of here.

Every game I anticipate going nine innings with no runs. It's just kind of the mindset. But, you know, like I said, it's a good team over there, and they're playing more right now. That whole, the whole believe in yourself there thing at the beginning was a bit odd. I mean, I, yeah, that was, yeah, there's some context that's probably helpful there. So Tori was asked in our interview prior to talking with Merrill, Tori was asked, you know, just about kind of what he's seen from Merrill pitching against the Dodgers

and, you know, how he feels about that matchup. And Tori, of course, being Tori comes out and says, I believe in it. You know, I believe in Merrill Kelly going against the Dodgers. Dodgers despite what some of the numbers may say. So, yeah, Todd Walsh, our friend from the broadcast, was explaining Tori's comment to Merrill. Merrill is just kind of clarifying there at the beginning. He's making sure he understood what Tori said. But yeah, Merrill is agreeing with Tori that he believes in himself against the Dodgers as well,

even though the numbers, you know, continue to tell him. The numbers don't believe in him. Yeah, the numbers have considerably less. belief than either Tory or Merrill. This is, this is true. We talked about this series, not necessarily being something you needed to look at as a must win, but you could say that every game, every series is a must win for the Diamondbacks as they approach the end of September. I mean, what are we trying to salvage here? Do you think, I mean, is it still good to get out of LA with one? I mean, do we care? Does it matter? Like, what are your thoughts on just the way the

Diamondbacks have kind of been outclassed in these first two games. It does. It's like if you win tomorrow, then it's fine. It's kind of the sense that I get. Coming in and winning a series at Dodger Stadium is very, very difficult. You know, Bobby Miller and Clayton Kershaw are two of their better starters as well. It's not just the debacks having their two best guys. So, yeah, I don't think you needed to come in and win this series necessarily to feel good about the future.

A sweep would be a bit of a gut punch, though. The D-backs have obviously been playing really, really well over the last couple weeks. So, you know, we'll see if they're able to find a way to turn things around tomorrow. Brandon fought face the Dodgers in that series as well. A few weeks ago at Chase Field pitched really well through the front four innings, I want to say. Things kind of fell apart for him in the fifth. But this is a different Brandon Fought that we've seen the last few times out. So, yeah, we'll see if he's able to come in here and do what.

But Zach Gallen and Merrill Kelly have not been able to do, which is to just give the Diamondbacks a chance to win. I know it's kind of loser energy, but it does feel like one win in the series is like a push. Yeah, it does very much feel like. It almost feels like, I mean, especially now that they've lost too, obviously, if you can win tomorrow, it almost feels like you won the series. Like it feels like.

Especially the games you lost. You lost the starts of Zach Allen and Merrill. Yeah, it almost feels like you're like, okay. Because like we had talked about it yesterday on yesterday's show, like, kind of the floor and ceiling for this team for the rest of the season. And we had talked about them, you know, the 10 losses being the, I guess the ceiling or, you know, the other way around. Yeah, whatever.

And like, but like regardless, we knew they were going to lose games. They weren't going to win every single one of these games, raining in the season. And those losses were most likely going to come against the Dodgers. They're the best team that they play. I mean, yeah. Yeah. They have some very tough series left. And I mean, we've talked about how many games they have left against wildcard opponents,

but they still have the Astroids. on their schedule. They still have, I believe, another series with the Padres. Like, there's still a lot of games. I don't think there's any more Padres. Okay. That Astro series will be interesting because, like, coming into the season, you're like, oh, you're facing the Astros for the last three games of the series.

Like, clearly the Astros are just going to be resting their guys because they're going to be leading the out west by 27 games, right? Right. But that's not the case right now. I believe the Astros, Rangers, and Mariners. are in a three-way tie atop the AOS right now. So that'll be something to watch. If you're a D-BACS fan, you kind of want the Astros to gain some separation,

either atop that division or fall like so far behind in that division that they don't really have much to play for by the time that series comes around. That would probably help the Diamondbacks a lot. The series I was talking, I was thinking about is this upcoming series with the Orioles this weekend at Chase Field. A very, very tough team. then like I said they have the seven games left with the Cubs they they have some easier teams in a four game series with the Mets

and a three game series with the White Sox weird to even be saying that about a series with the Mets and I don't even know if that's an easy series because the Mets are still seem to be a difficult team Do you leave about a series there? No I did not I was going to say last but not least they have that series with that poverty franchise known as the New York Yankees who I don't know have you think you guys heard the news

what's the news they're dog shit they're terrible they're just not good yeah we have kind of they're not good I've heard this team's historically bad below 500 I don't know if you do that I don't know if we've heard they got less wins than the Miami

Milwaukee Marlins just saying I'm just saying I have to add Sean John do you want Josh Donaldson on this Diamondbacks team now that Josh Donaldson is my least favorite Yankee ever he is genuinely one of my least Why do I feel like I could say the name of any

Yankees player? Ask him if you want to Pan Loon on the coaching staff. No, no, no, no, no. Go look at Josh Donaldson's interactions with Tim Anderson and I'll tell you you'll know why he's my least favorite our Yankee average. He's a piece of shit.

Not a great clubhouse guy. Yeah, so fuck him. You can enjoy retirement. There you go. I also want to say the idea of an interleague do like winner makes the playoff, loser, goes home, like, end of the season series

between the Arizona Diamondbacks and the Houston Astros is just an insane thought. That's crazy. Like, it's an insane thought of the Arizona Diamondbacks. Even if, like, the rest of the season goes terribly, they might be in a position to kick the defending champions out of the postseason or out of postseason contention. Let's go.

Yeah. That's a fun life to live. It's going to be exciting. Well, Jesse, we will be back here at this time tomorrow night. Jesse will still be in L.A., so he'll be joining us. And we'll be doing this again. Another 7.10 PM game for the finale. hopefully Brandon Faw can get the job done. Yeah, we'll see.

We'll see. The last couple days haven't been great here in Diamondbacks land. You're not in Diamondbacks land, by the way. What's what the 7-10 starts? Is this like a thing where they tell the people in L.A. that it starts at 640, but then actually starts at 7-10. So they get there on time. Actually show up my first wage.

What's with the late starts? Yes, that's exactly what you're. No, they tell them 7-10, and that's why they show up at 740, right? Oh, yeah. Fuck you, man. All right, Jesse. We'll see you tomorrow. All right.

See you guys. All right. Well, yeah, that sucks. But like you said, if the Diamondbacks could somehow make the best of this series by winning tomorrow's game, then things don't look so bad.

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The people. But I mean, yeah, not just for nourishment. Like, yes, food can be for nourishment. So it can drinking, but it can also be for fun. And that's what illegal pizza provides is the fun. They have an amazing patio area. Patio season is strong. here in Arizona. It lasts very long and it might be coming up soon. We don't know when it starts.

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It is a different recipe. So get in on it. Yeah. At a little peats. Carlos just made me sad because he brought up the Dodgers picking up Josh Donaldson and him having a 900 OPS. He's probably wrong. No.

No. I like Carlos. Carlos can't go anywhere. I will physically fist fight drop Donaldson in that situation. Yeah. I will have to have a physical like if Josh Donaldson. to us in the room, I'd call him a piece of shit to his face. It will be a cune situation yesterday except Sean. It will be. It will be in a tag. He won't be hugging anybody.

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That first comment from toilet under John again is going to be liberating. It's going to be like when Nelson Mandela. I can't wait until he breaks out. It's going to be a great moment. I'd like to personally apologize to Maria for sending her out of the show by saying I hate the Dodgers. That was crazy. Of all the stuff we've said. Apparently.

And of all the stuff we've said. Yeah. Good. You guys should feel bad about yourself. Anyway, we thank you for your time. You guys are wonderful. And remember, kids, baseball is fun, but it's so much more fun when Merrill Kelly eventually beats the Dodgers.