PHNX Arizona Diamondbacks Podcast - Trade and Sign and Extend OH MY!

Episode Date: March 24, 2022

Let's discuss recent roster decisions in Arizona sports! Phil Kessel didn't get traded at the NHL trade deadline and Kyler Murray has yet to sign an extension with the Arizona Cardinals...Join host Ma...kayla Perkins and the PHNX crew as they break it all down! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:10 the Phoenix Sports Podcast presented by the one and only draft in Sportsbook America's top rated sports book app. I'm your host, Michaela Perkins, and joining me today is Leah Merrill and Chirston Sue South. I have to say, I'm really excited about this
Starting point is 00:00:26 specific group of gals being on the show today, because for those of you don't know, I do a little freelance work on the side, and I work in like production, live production, like event production, and the entire control room last night at the ASU baseball game was all women, which is super cool. Super rare, especially in live event production.
Starting point is 00:00:43 And now today, the podcast is all women. So I feel like this is great because A, it's Women's History Month, and I just like being surrounded by women. We are taking over. We are taking over. I have a theory that if there were all women in all areas of control, the world would be a better place. Agree.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Let's end the show on that. And that's the X-Mexam show. It's a great day, everybody. No. So, yeah, I'm super excited. Thanks for joining me today, guys. My day got off to a little bit of a rough start. I forgot my computer at home, which.
Starting point is 00:01:10 is not great. I haven't said the best of best. Yeah, I'm going to be doing the show off my phone. So if anybody's watching and it's like, why is she on her phone? I'm not. I've got my entire rundown and my ad copies right on my handy-dandy iPhone. So what can you do, though? Sometimes you just start off your day and you forget your laptop.
Starting point is 00:01:28 It's not the best way to start. Okay. Just have agility bounce back. We got this. We got this. It's going to be fine. It's going to be great. All right.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Today we're going to be kind of recapping and talking about some of the roster decisions surrounding the Arizona sports teams as of late. I think we should start off with the coyotes because yes, or not yesterday, Monday was the trade deadline. And the coyotes have been in like this weird state. Obviously, we all know that they're sucking on purpose.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Got a tank for that first overall pick, hopefully. Most recently they made some moves. They traded the goalie Wedgey Wedgwood to the stars. And then they also made a deal with the wild to bring in, or not the wild. Yeah, the wild. Why do I jet?
Starting point is 00:02:08 Why do I doubt myself? to bring in Jack McBain. So, Leo, what are your thoughts on this? I know people were kind of surprised by sending Wedgwood away, especially how he'd performed during the season. What are your kind of thoughts on, I guess, the trade deadline as a whole and these two specific moves? Well, the trade deadline as a whole around, like, the U.S. and Canada,
Starting point is 00:02:29 the coyotes aren't getting fantastic grades, to be honest. But, I mean, I think it was a fine trade deadline. Sending Wedgwood away would be surprising if this was a team that you wanted to be good, but that's not the purpose of the rest of this season. Wedgwood had been playing really well. And actually, this was a win for the coyotes because they got him off of waivers, so it cost them nothing to get him. And then they set him away and got a pick in return. So they actually ended up getting something in return when they didn't have to pay for him in the first place. So it's a good move. Sad to see him go. Really great guy, really great goalie for the coyotes. But
Starting point is 00:03:05 he could come back. He's going to be a UFA after this season. So he can come back to the coyotes. That door's not closed. And then Jack McBain coming. He hasn't played in the NHL yet. He is a senior at Boston College. So he hasn't had the opportunity yet. But I think the coyotes will be a great opportunity for him.
Starting point is 00:03:22 He's a center which the coyotes need. He's 6'4, which size the coyotes need. So it'll be interesting to see how he does. But I'm happy with it. And they didn't end the day with fewer draft picks than they started with. They shuffled around from different years. But, you know, that's what the coyotes need is assets for the future. That's what they did.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Yeah, absolutely. So if you were grading the trade deadline for the coyotes, what grade would you give them? Maybe like a B. Okay. You know, they didn't. Well, to me, the most surprising move was the moves they didn't make, which we'll get to, I'm sure. And I know there was a lot of criticism around that. I think there was definitely more they could have done, but also just the nature of the market this year was so different with like the flat salary.
Starting point is 00:04:08 recap and just the price of things and there are so many teams selling this year. So for what they did and what they were given and what they had to work with, we'll just say a B. Right. Yes. Okay. Well, B is good. It's not awful. I think you kind of alluded to it.
Starting point is 00:04:23 So obviously, Phil Kessel is still a member of the coyotes, which also surprised me, especially knowing how badly he wanted to leave. He really wanted to get out. He wanted to go to contender. Obviously, he's a little bit older. So his window to win another championship is closing. Yep. why did they not move Phil Kessel?
Starting point is 00:04:41 I know that there have been some reasons out there. Why do you think that they didn't move him? Money. Yes. Money, his salary cap hit is high. It's over $6 million, which is just unaffordable for many teams, especially for a player his age. And he's going to be unrestricted after this season.
Starting point is 00:04:57 So he would have been a rental for a contending team, and it wouldn't be worth it to take on that big of a salary cap hit. NHL teams can only retain three salaries on the roster right now, before the trade-down line, the coyotes had two. So they can only retain one more salary. And they ended up retaining Johann Larson's salary just because that was a better move for them. And as a result, they couldn't move Phil Kessel.
Starting point is 00:05:20 I know that he tried. I know Phil is wanting to leave for over a year. So it's disappointing for him. But, you know, he can go wherever he wants this summer. Yeah. Cherson, how do you think Phil's feeling right now being on this team in the coyotes and knowing that he wanted to get out? well here's the way that I look at it from a career perspective I'm sure he's had enough and I think maybe at some point in the season he was hoping to get to this point and that this would be a new beginning for him so I'm sure he's probably disappointed but didn't he just become a new dad I think Phil's been doing this for a really long time and maybe he's at a point in his career where other things are becoming more important so obviously
Starting point is 00:06:04 I'm not saying that he's like giving up on his playing career, but he's played a lot of hockey. And he has something great in his personal life to offset what's going on on the ice and in his career. So there's probably some balance for him. And I think, you know, he'll probably end up wherever he ends up next is where he's going to want to be. Yeah. And also he's in Arizona. It's not like he's stuck in like Buffalo, New York. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:29 No offense. Full of offense. Sorry. Sorry, Sean and everyone in Buffalo. But there are way worse places to be in the continental U.S. and Canada besides Arizona. So, I mean, it could be worse. Like, he gets to stay in Arizona where the weather's nice. You know, it could be worse.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Chris Melton in the comments. Hi, Chris. Okay, guys, we're back to the small monitor. I can't read. As everybody knows. So Tocry asked if there was a trade deadline at All City, who do you think would be traded to DNVR or CHO? And Chris said that's a fiery question. Well, stay tuned because we're going to be doing some hypothetical signing.
Starting point is 00:07:02 extend cut scenarios at the end of this podcast and it's going to get interesting. Was he listening into our little production meeting? I don't know. That's a great question though. I'm glad that he asked it now because I'm going to have to think about who I want from D&M are in Chicago to come to PHNX. But yeah, stay tuned. We're going to be doing a lot of hypothetical situations.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Talking about the coyotes again, I will say the one thing I'm really glad that they didn't do, his trade Jacob Triggeron. I was hoping that they wouldn't because obviously they were asking for a lot and I believe if the situation was right for a specific team. And if more teams were buyers in this market than sellers, like you said, I think chicken would have been moved. But I'm really glad he wasn't because the whole coyote's philosophy is we're building for the future.
Starting point is 00:07:45 We're building. We're going to be horrible for these next couple years. And then, you know, when we get all these draft picks and all these draft picks come up through the system and they're ready to go, we're going to have a good team. And I think you need pieces like Jacob Chikrin, like Lawson Kraus, like Clayton Keller, who are younger so that when they're older and the draft picks that they get, turned into players and then the players come up through the system, they have those veteran guys in the locker room to lead the younger players. Obviously, Jacob Chikrin's having a little bit of an off
Starting point is 00:08:10 year, so hopefully he can kind of... I still think they're going to trade him this summer. You think so? What makes you think that? I just think he, if he had his choice, he doesn't want to be part of the rebuild. And I think players like Lassen Krause and Clayton Keller have expressed that they're like happy to be part of this teen teacher. And I'm not, like, I don't know that for sure. Jacob Chirgin's never told me that. But that's just my sense. And I think that they can get a lot for him this summer, more draft picks. So I still think he'll be traded.
Starting point is 00:08:39 But I agree with the philosophy. And I think that Clayton Keller and Lassen Krause are going to be part of the team's future. I'm really, I'm really bummed if they trade Chickridden. I like him. And I think he is a great leader. And if they don't, then that's great too. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:08:51 It's a win-win, I guess. How would you feel about it if they moved on from Chikrin, Chirisd? At this point, I'm not like, married to anybody on that team. Like, just do what you got to do at this point. Like, I just want to see the coyotes moving in the right direction. And they've already let go of so many players that I loved to where it's just like, this team's going to look wildly different over the next, the course of the next few years. So just do what you got to do.
Starting point is 00:09:23 And certainly, I mean, I'm a big fan of Jacob Chikrin. But if he doesn't necessarily want to be here, I don't feel. anybody like i don't fault a single player for not wanting to be a part of a real rebuild here in arizona and also be a part of like playing in tempi and not knowing if they're i don't know where the negotiations are right now and working everything out about actually building a permanent facility but um it's my understanding right that they still have not finalized that deal so like there's a lot that's up in the air right now with this team where if if there's a guy that's like listen I would rather, I just don't really want to be a part of this,
Starting point is 00:10:01 then I'm with them in that. And so, yeah, that's my thought of it. That makes sense. And that's fair. And I definitely agree. It's a tough organization to be a part of right now. I think there's been more criticism about the move to Tempe from people outside of Arizona than the players I probably prefer.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Obviously, it's not ideal coming into a collegiate arena that only seats 5,000 people. But I don't know. It's an interesting thing. I mean, looking at it overall, do you think all the moves and all the decisions as a whole of the coyotes made during the trade deadline set this team up for success in the future? Yeah, I think they did their best. I think they could have done a little more in terms of acquiring draft picks, but I think there's more to come this summer. Is that what you would have done differently if you were in charge? Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 00:10:47 But Bill Armstrong knows what he's doing. I do not try and say that I can do any better. I would have loved for you'd be like, yeah, probably. and the coyote you should have hired me instead of Bill Armstrong. No, I don't say that. It goes back to my theory that the world would be a better place of all women were in charge at all times. I was going to say something about the trade deadline. But yeah, I definitely, I hope that they can capitalize on the decisions that they've made.
Starting point is 00:11:18 And I do think Bill Armstrong is the best GM for this job in this position. His whole bread and butter is scouting, developing, and improving players. So if you're going to have any GM in charge of this team right now, I think Bill Armstrong's probably your best bet. All right. Moving right along to the Arizona Cardinals. It's been an interesting off season, to say the least. They have done not a lot in terms of bringing outside acquisitions.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Shout out to Johnny Venerable and the Ph.NX Cardinals Twitter account for that beautiful video. Jason, what the heck are the Cardinals doing in terms of bringing in big pieces? in this offseason period. Well, I don't think anybody thought that they were necessarily going to bring in, like they were going to make like splash off-season deals with anybody. Right. I think we felt like it was going to be pretty quiet. But right now, they're not, we would have liked to see them make more moves for sure.
Starting point is 00:12:14 And they're not, we look at everything on paper and we're like, wait a second. Like right now we're like worse than we were last year. So how is this a good thing? And is that because of the players that they let go? And that they didn't resign like Christian Kirk, Chase Evans. Yeah, I mean, I think the biggest thing right now is replacing Chandler Jones, right? I mean, I do like one of the moves that I think might pay off for them.
Starting point is 00:12:39 And I kind of compare it to what I was saying about Marco Wilson, although their situations are wildly different. I always felt like because of Marco Wilson throwing a shoe in a football game. Yeah. The Cardinals were going to reap the benefits. of that decision for a long time. They got him as a steal of a deal. So they added Jeff Gladney, a cornerback with a lot of talent.
Starting point is 00:13:08 He was a first round draft pick in 2020. He ended up being released by the Vikings just after his rookie season because he got cut up in a domestic violence lawsuit, which he was just found innocent of like a couple of weeks ago. Yeah. Again, I'm not comparing their situations, but I think this could be a guy where the Cardinals swooped in and for, you know, because there was some history there, that they actually might be able to have gotten another steal of a deal.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Now, he only has, you know, one season under his belt. But remember, first round draft pick has a tremendous upside. and you know as soon as you know he was on that everything was settled with that lawsuit and he was found you know not guilty um they swooped in and were able to grab him so I am a little bit excited to see to see him uh they have a linebacker that they picked up that could replace Jordan Hicks um and then of course by you know offloading him uh you know you have a bigger opportunity for Zaven Collins but I'm looking at where we're at right now and um you know christian kirk chanler jones how are we getting better in those in those regards like
Starting point is 00:14:27 they still need to figure out a way to add some pieces and i don't know that you're necessarily going to do that in the draft so hopefully steep kime has some moves up his sleeve but yeah i don't like i don't know that many cardinals fans are like super pumped with what the roster is at this exact moment Right. And if you wouldn't mind reading that comment from, is it Carol? Jeff Gladney posted over 80 plus PFF grades late in his rookie season. He got better with time, which is very good. So that's a good. That's a good addition. No, that's what I'm saying. Like, I'm actually really excited. I think they got, I mean, like a really good athlete. And I would love to see him have like sort of this comeback after he was dealing with some, a rough situation and got released and didn't play a whole season. I'm actually pretty excited to see. what he's able to do for this team. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:15:20 And also, too, I want to amend what I said earlier. It's not like they didn't do anything. Like, obviously they did a lot by resigning both Zacharts and James Connor. Because I think that was a huge priority going into the off season. So, yes, I actually came across this article, though. Was it the one trashing their signing of James Connor one? Yeah. He was like put on.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Yeah. So he was like when you Google James Connor, the first article that pops up is an article by Yahoo. and it says USA Today Sports recently released a list of NFL free agency's top 10 most regrettable contracts in 2022. The Cardinal signing of running back James Connor came in at number three. Why? What is the reasoning? Well, because running backs are sort of considered a dime a dozen, right? Like you shouldn't you shouldn't throw money at a running back, especially when you're a team like the Cardinals who have some positions to address outside of running back.
Starting point is 00:16:15 So a lot of people felt like you could sign somebody else for a lot less money and not have a ton of a drop off when it comes to running backs, right? Okay. So that's what a lot of people, like, that's what their mindset is on that. Now, my mindset, I'm a little bit biased because I have been, I'm around the team and I love James Connor. And I almost feel like he offers the intangibles that don't come around with every single running back that exists. He's going to play his heart out and set the tone for the rest of. the offense along with Kyler in terms of you know to you know mindset showing up to work giving it you're all not straying um now you could also say he was playing on like a you know 1.2 million
Starting point is 00:17:02 dollar deal one year deal last year so of course he but I of course he was giving it all like he was playing for another contract but the thing is is his whole story of his entire life is being a certain type of guy. I don't think he's going to stray from that. I think he's a great team player, a guy that you want in your locker room. And sometimes that's worth a little more than what anybody just looking at stats on a piece of paper would say he's worth. Yeah, absolutely. Caro saying 16 touchdowns is worth the money, 18? I'm blind, you guys. It's really good. He almost had the franchise record. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, he was like a couple, a few touchdowns away from like setting a franchise record for a single season touchdown.
Starting point is 00:17:45 So he had a phenomenal, phenomenal year. And he's just a great guy to have on your team. Yeah, I absolutely agree. I was happy that they brought both of them back. I'm kind of surprised by the slanderous article, although I can see it because I do think, you know, especially in this Cardinals offense, the running back isn't relied upon as much as probably other teams rely on their running backs. So I could definitely see why some people would question that move.
Starting point is 00:18:07 I think it's not fair to judge a contract until like the player has played on that contract if they like you know you can go back and say wow that was actually a steal because look what he's done or you can say look what he hasn't done and that was a bad contract and I don't think it's fair to judge until the the lifetime of the contract has gone on two things one I think I said he played on a one point two is a one point seven five million dollar deal one year deal that he played on last year but um also some of these lists and things like that is just I think we all know like A, I think we all would like to, like, you know, a deal gets done. And then everybody in their own mind is like, okay, was this a good deal?
Starting point is 00:18:45 Was this not a good deal? Right. It's just human nature. Yeah. But for somebody that's not around the organization and is just looking at like, you know, like some statistics or whatever to just give it a grade, I don't know that he's like the third worst contract. Like, I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:02 That's bold. It's a bold statement. So out of the four most notable players that they did not. bring back. Who do you think, do you think Chandler Jones is the biggest mistake out of all of that? Who do you think they're going to regret the most? I totally think we saw this one coming. You know, he mentioned that he for a little bit thought about staying in Arizona. But I think the, I think it was time for him to go elsewhere. And I don't think that they were going to pursue him as hard as he wanted to be pursued and, and get the contract that he wanted to get.
Starting point is 00:19:34 It seemed just like a weird relationship to me. Like it was contentious. Well, he asked for a trade last offseason, right? And then played this entire season thinking that he should have been playing for more and should have had a new contract, right? And so I think when that sits with you for an entire year, I remember, after you already like asked for a trade. And Chandler's funny. I respect the hell out of him because not every player is willing to kind of show their cards a little bit or tell you. you how they really feel.
Starting point is 00:20:06 And he would, I wish I remembered exactly what the joke was, but I'll give you some like insight. There was a TV camera out at training camp that he bumped into on accident. And he like made a joke about like, I'll get the like the cardinals will pay for it. Oh no. They're, wait, they're cheap around here. Oh, no. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:29 And so like, and then like he patted Steve Kimes' pockets on the sideline, whichever everybody caught. Like, he was very, and I respect the hell out of that. It's funny. And I think, I think some of there, it was a little truth to it. And then some of it was just him trying to be funny. Right. But you could definitely tell that there was a little bit of tension there.
Starting point is 00:20:46 I don't think it bled into the locker room whatsoever. Like Chandler was so incredibly beloved by his teammates, his coaches, the media members. Like, I don't have a bad thing to say about Chandler Jones. And I wish him all the best. But, yeah, I mean, I don't think anyone was shocked by it. Yeah. Carol's saying Chandler is a great guy but not worth 17.5 million a year
Starting point is 00:21:06 anymore. Yeah, I mean, it's a lot of money, but yeah. And then Stephen William saying Connor would have gotten more anywhere else. We're so lucky he wanted to stay and we got him at a good deal. His intangibles are invaluable. So yeah, not regrettable. Yeah, absolutely. It's a good point. Yeah. I don't know how to say that name.
Starting point is 00:21:24 But this person saying, Kaim and Bibel are happy with mediocrity on top of that. No one wants to play for this organization. I mean, I feel like that's a little bit a hot statement. I don't know if I necessarily agree with they're okay with mediocrity, but I mean, do you, why do you think they haven't brought in any bigger free agent names like this off season? I don't know. I don't know what's going. I don't know if Steve Kheim has something up a sleeve that we're just not, you know, aware of. Like, I genuinely am not sure what they're thinking
Starting point is 00:21:51 right now. And we haven't had the time or the opportunity to talk with any of them this off season. So like, I really don't know what they're doing. I would hope that they've got something up their state. Do you think that they will bring in? anybody bigger? I have no idea. Yeah. I have no idea. To me, I feel like everybody is like off the market.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Like I feel like they're so far behind the eight ball. Yeah, one of the reasons why I have no idea because I'm like, I don't even know what move at this point. They would really, you know, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, hopefully that they're able to address some of their holes that they have in their roster through the draft. But at the same time, it's just like, hello, wake up.
Starting point is 00:22:27 What are we doing here? I hope they, I don't know. I feel like it's hard. I mean, if you had to grade this office. season what would you give them so far um i would say a c oh okay worse than the coyotes yeah at the deadline i mean i think they i mean that's as of now that could change for sure that could change caro said f f and i'm giving them a c because i do think that the players that they signed yeah could actually be like pretty good additions right so like i'm i'm i
Starting point is 00:23:08 I don't think they're like players that are going to like change the trajectory of this team by any chance. I would still like to see a player. No. Charlesville bike F minus. I mean, you guys. They're coming in hot with the Cardinals. You have to remember nobody expected them to make a like, be like huge contenders to get free agents in the off season.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Right. Because I mean they did decently well. They made the playoffs for the phase. And the off season is not over. So it gives them room to fail or succeed more. He is like middle ground. They were able to get the two, the two players that we all felt like they should retain Zach Ertz and James Connor.
Starting point is 00:23:46 They did. They parted ways with Chase Edmonds, which we knew what's coming. They parted ways with Chandler Jones, which we knew was coming. If Christian Kirk was asking for that much money from the Cardinals, I'm glad. I'm glad that they did not sign Kirk because that is ridiculous amount of money for a slot receiver. I'm sorry, I would never in a million years pay Christian Kirk that much money. Like he's a great receiver and he is worth a lot of. of money, but not that much money that the Jaggs gave him.
Starting point is 00:24:11 My jaw at the floor when I saw that contract. I mean, I was good for Christian Kirk. Go get your bag. But like, so and then so Christian Kirk though, we all talked about as much as we didn't want to see him leave. We felt like that was coming because he was up for a new deal. He was going to be wanting to get paid. Jordan Hicks.
Starting point is 00:24:30 I was a little bit surprised about, but only because we didn't think they'd actually pulled the trigger on it, but it made the most sense if you were. going to move forward with Zaven Collins that that would happen. So there was nothing. They were able to also get Max Williams back. I would say it's very mediocre. So like I would give them,
Starting point is 00:24:48 I would give them a C. Yeah, I think that's fair. They did sign a quarterback, not their starting quarterback. Yeah. They signed Colbecoi. And then obviously the glaring question is if Kyler Murray is going to get the extension
Starting point is 00:25:01 that he is looking for before the season starts. Cheers. Do you think a deal gets done? before the season starts for Kyler Murray? I mean, I think that he very much is going to fight for it. I think it'll be interesting to see how much he fights for it. If we get to, you know, offseason workout, it's voluntary workouts. And that's the beginning of him not showing up.
Starting point is 00:25:27 I've always said, like, right now, unless we hear like that, and I don't think we'll hear much until it actually happens that he's getting a deal done, that we're just going to kind of have to wait and see how. he starts to react. I think you put the pictures back on his Instagram. Yeah. Cardhole's pictures are back. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Well, why freaking do that? You know, it's just like, I don't want to revisit that, but it's just like, yeah. You want to do it for aesthetic reasons, but then a couple weeks later, bring it back. I mean, that doesn't make any sense. That's like what I do with my Instagram, but I'm a 25 year old white girl who like cares about my Instagram aesthetic. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:26:03 I change my grid all the time because I like, I'm like, oh, I don't like that picture. It doesn't fit with my theme. like but I'm like I'm allowed to do that Calamary's not allowed to do that. What thing Michaela? It's like aesthetically pleasing. It's like a thing. It's totally a thing. Oh my God. Yes. Thank you. No, that's a thing.
Starting point is 00:26:19 You want to make sure your Instagram grid looks good so like when you post more pictures you can like Oh, I guess that is a good thing for a social media manager to care about. Well, I do that but I don't ever bring them back. Like I definitely I've had like. I have like embarrassing like my picture of chicken and waffles
Starting point is 00:26:35 in high school. Yeah. No, I'm yes. I for sure have gone back many times over and scrub through my whole Instagram and been like, that's not even a good picture. That's a weird moment. Let's archive it all. But then I don't ever for once be like, oh, I'm just going to archive these five photos today. And then like, I think in a couple weeks, I'll just like pick one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:54 It's very much. What? It all depends on what you post in the future. It's fun. If you need help reconstructing your grid, hit me up. I love doing this stuff. Oh, my Lord. I guess we need people like you in this world that I just.
Starting point is 00:27:07 That's what I'm saying is like I'm allowed to do stuff like that because I'm a 25 year old white girl. I don't think the quarterback of a friend. No, I don't think Kyla Murray was like, you know what? I just feel like this seems a little reframe. Like, yeah. Can you imagine? It's just like the aesthetic is just like a little off right now. It's really like messing up with my vibe.
Starting point is 00:27:25 So I'm just going to read, you know, I'm just going to archive somebody. Honestly, if that was the reason, that would be hilarious. Like iconic. Like you can imagine. Also, I would like to point out I am older than Kyler Murray. So maybe there's a chance. Where were we, what were we talking about, though? I got we totally got off.
Starting point is 00:27:41 We got so far off track. His extension. Do you think he, like, do you think he deserves an extension? Oh. And will he get one before the start of the season? So my thought on this has not changed. If he is your guy and you are totally sold out for him as your starting quarterback, he's your franchise quarterback, he's going to be here long term, then you should give him a new deal.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Yeah, I think they have to. They have to at this point. They had a. first round quarterback and Josh Rosen that they got rid of literally a year later. They brought in Cliff Kingsbury specifically to be the coach for Kyler Mary. At this point, you are far too down this river to not extend to Kyler Murray. And also look at the options. Look at the market out there.
Starting point is 00:28:21 There's not a good quarterback in the draft this year that I would feel comfortable with drafting. Most of the quarterbacks that are in the game now are now locked into long-term deals because they either moved this off-season or got bigger contracts last season. So that is a quarterback market. if you don't have a franchise starting quarterback, you are screwed. And I know that from personal experience being a fan of a team that did not have one until this offseason. So I don't know. I think you have to.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Yeah, I agree. And the younger guys have their big deal signed. And honestly, some of the older guys, like you, the Russell Wilson, the Aaron Rogers, the Tom Brady, which really threw us all for a loop. they're all probably on their last contract of their careers. Yeah. Right. Don't even get me started on Tom Brady. What?
Starting point is 00:29:11 Don't even get me started on Tom Brady. Oh, yeah. What a whole other podcast. Yeah. And there's like a lot of conspiracy theories too surrounding why he decided to come back and like whatever. I'm like, oh my God. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:29:23 At the end of the day, I sort of get it. I totally sort of get it. Like when you've done and known one thing for like. your entire career and all of a sudden and everything you hang your hat on as much as people want to say like I'm a family person I'd love to have more time with my family and this is what is really important to me or whatever like when you are like in the spotlight and however many the majority of your year you're in and year out is on a national football league team yep uh like your identity lies in being a football player
Starting point is 00:30:02 Yep. And I can imagine how like internally difficult that would have to be to walk away when you still have more to give. Yeah. Yeah. So I understand. I mean, Ryan in the comments saying the longer you wait, the more the contract goes crazy because guys are signing for bigger deals.
Starting point is 00:30:18 That's a great point too. I think if they would have gotten Kyler Murray's deal done earlier, it would have been for less. But now that Kyler's looking at all of these deals and seeing, okay, where do I fit in market-wise? I think it just keeps going up. So I don't know. I hope they, I hope they figure. it out soon and honestly at this point I think they just need to extend him and get this drama
Starting point is 00:30:35 over with and go into the season with Kyler Murray happy and not mad and frustrated. Yeah, my mindset has shifted a little bit where originally I was like, no way. And like they should they should wait it out if they have like some concerns about him. But at this point, it's just like, you know what? It's just sort of how the industry goes, especially when everybody else is heading in one direction. Yeah. Like you can't really sit there and look your quarterback in the face and like,
Starting point is 00:31:04 and expect them to respond like favorably. Yeah. To, you know, not having an extension. So I do think they should probably just get it done. I agree. Well, before we move on to the Diamondbacks offseason roster additions, because we do need to talk about it because guess what? It's baseball season, guys, which I'm so happy about.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I need to tell you all about drafting sports. But college basketball fans, college basketball fans, Miss Arizona. over here. Are you guys watching the tournament? March Madness? Are you into it? Yes. For sure. Oh my God. I love it. I've never been a college basketball fan and now I am. This is the year that I've decided that I'm going to fully invest in college basketball and watch the tournament. I feel like I've been missing out my whole life on. You for sure have been missing out. Yeah, I don't know. I just never really like basketball. Like the NBA is not really my thing. The NBA and college basketball are two different. Yeah, totally different things.
Starting point is 00:31:59 I'm going to get canceled for saying this because I want to say. Oh, you're rooting for you, Faye. Yeah, she is. Bear it! Baird out! Bacaa!
Starting point is 00:32:09 No, no. Stop it. I will end this stream. Back, she and, if you went and covered you of A and really, you know, got to be around some of the players and stuff like that. He did it.
Starting point is 00:32:21 I was literally with Michaela when she fell in love with them. I am in love with this Arizona basketball team. I'm sorry, go on the stream. I'm sorry. Sorry, they're so good. They are so good. I'm a little nervous about this matchup with Houston because Houston's probably the best defensive team in March Madness.
Starting point is 00:32:37 And it makes me a little nervous. But oh my God, it's so cool. I'm so mad at myself for not getting interested in college basketball earlier. I've missed out my whole way. I never. True. So, yeah, please don't cancel me Sun Devil fans. I'm sorry.
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Starting point is 00:33:57 Come on, Charles. Well, speaking of baseball. you guys, if I asked you to name a player on the Arizona DivaVax roster, could you do it? And this is not like a trap question. One player? Yeah. One, yes. Escobar.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Okay. All right. So, well, I think Espo is not on the roster anymore. Eduardo Escobar? He's on the roster anymore. Oh, shit. No, no, no, no. He's not.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. No, no. No. He's like literally my favorite player, the train. David Peralta. Peralta.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Yeah. Sorry. I totally got him confused. Totally fine. fair and it wasn't a trap question because the diamond backs are in this position where they did not bring in any big names during the off season, which I think I was expecting. And I'll tell you why. It's because the diamond backs are not necessarily in tank mode. And they're also not necessarily in rebuild mode. They're in a sit-in-weight mode. So they're not bringing in huge names because they don't
Starting point is 00:34:52 want to pay the contracts for these people because basically, in my opinion, their philosophy right now on what they're doing is they're waiting for all of the players that they got in big trades for like big names in the past like Zach Renke and other players is to come up through their system and join the major league roster because they have one of the best farm systems in baseball and they have so many prospects loaded up in their minor league system that probably around the year 2024 maybe 2025 their major league roster is going to be amazing. And I really, really believe that because they have so many incredible pieces in their farm system right now. Two specifically in the outfield, Alec Thomas, who is probably going to be one of the best outfielers in baseball.
Starting point is 00:35:39 So in this off season, they didn't really bring in a lot of big people. Mark Balancen is probably the biggest name that they brought in and who's probably going to be the dime of X closer this season, which is fine. He's not, he's a little bit older, but he's probably one of the most reliable bullpen arms in all of baseball. So they brought in Mark Blanson and they brought in two more pitchers. They brought in Zach Davies to be a rotation pitcher, which I'm not crazy about. He had his worst career year ever last year with the Cubs. And he is just not looking crazy. But he brought him in because Zach Gallen, to nobody surprise, is hurt yet again,
Starting point is 00:36:16 which is really unfortunate because Zach Gallen was supposed to be, you know, their pitcher, their ace. And it just, he just can't stop avoiding injury. it's a shoulder injury this time which is obviously not good when you're a starting pitcher so they needed to kind of add another big another starting picture they did yeah so they brought ian kennedy back who was a starting pitcher for the diamond backs um in the mid 2000s but ian kennedy is like a grandpa is so old so i imagine he's going to be in the bullpen oh for sure yeah so he's going to come out of the bullpen so basically they just added two bullpen arms and then zach davies as a starting pitcher in case zach allen they need to like have have another pitcher in place of Zach Gallen if he's not ready to go. So, um, yeah, I mean, not a really off, exciting off season, which is a little bit of a bummer, um, for just casual fans because you're not going to have like that big name that's going to draw you to the ballpark unless you're really excited to watch David Prowter, Citell Marte this season. Um, but yeah,
Starting point is 00:37:14 I mean, it's just like a weird, it's just a weird time for the Diamondbacks because they're not really rebuilding and they're not really going to be competing. I don't really think that they're going to do well this year. I'm positive they're going to compete with a Rockies for last place in the National League West this season, which is a bummer. But I mean, considering all of that, like, are you guys still excited to go to games? Like, do you want to go to baseball games? You didn't really just sell me much there. I do like it in the summer because it's the only sport going on.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Right. And there's nothing like going to the baseball stadium and having a beer. That's just like a good summer activity. Yeah. I feel like this team's been through a lot. I feel like it went from the COVID season. to last year, just struggling to win games.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Failing to tank properly. Yeah. They blew that. Seeing the way that it impacted Tori Lavello and some of the guys that were just like, man, we're tired of just showing up to the ballpark and just losing. And to do it in some of the way,
Starting point is 00:38:20 like some of the errors and just stupid ways where I was just like, this is like fundamentally hard to watch. I think they had a really rough go. And I just hope that we're not seeing another one of these seasons with the Diamondbacks. You know, I get it if they're not, you know, if they're going to be competing to finish last with the Rockies,
Starting point is 00:38:45 I get that. But I just hope that they play some better baseball and it's not quite as rough. I remember the start of last season. And I always get Peralta and Escobar confused. Escobar is no longer with the team. But I remember them starting up that dance thing in the locker room in the clubhouse. And it just being like a super fun environment. And they were actually like semi successful at the start of the season.
Starting point is 00:39:11 And then it just sort of died down. They got crushed by injuries. So I just hope I fully support this team. I'm a huge fan of Toro Lavello. I'm a huge fan. of some of the players like, you know, young guys like Pavin and Dalton. Obviously, David Peralta is like an all-time top 10 human being that exists. And he's great for the Diamondbacks organization.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Fantastic. He's a great face for the organization. So I'm certainly rooting for them. And I will pay attention for sure. So it's not like they're so bad that I'm like, I don't want to have anything to do with them this year. But my biggest hope for them is just that it is. emotionally, mentally, just a better and more fun year than what they had last year.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Yeah. And I think it will be. I think a lot of the negativity that came in surrounded the injuries because like it's so tough when you see your teammates going down with injuries. And it was just like one after another after another after another after another. Like they could not catch a break. And they had people like playing positions that they normally wouldn't. Like it was just a mess overall. So I think if you can avoid that again, which can't help us knock on when they can, And I think it will be a little bit better positively. And then Chris bringing up a great point. The biggest thing that they did was overhaul their staff.
Starting point is 00:40:26 She's absolutely right. They brought in, yeah, they brought in probably the best coaching staff I've seen in an offseason. You know, they got Alex, they have a banister. They've got Troy Lovel again, which people did not like. But, you know, they pretty much overhauled their entire staff, which I think is great. And I think the additions or the changes that they made on their staff is, were amazing. And I think that this staff is going to be the best staff to lead this team forward. And especially like they're going to be great in this like transitional period while they're waiting for their minor leaguers to come up through the system and to get to that major league roster. And then they're going to be incredible when those minor leaguers get up to this, to the big stage and compete with on the major league on the major league stage. So the overhaul of the staff, I think was a huge thing for the diamondbacks this off season. I want to do another comment. Where is it? Oh, yes, Darth Voyota saying red beard back in the house. Yay. Yep, excited about Ian Kennedy.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Charles Woodall Pike, death by Dodgers pass. Yeah, the Dodgers, obscene, absolutely ridiculous. Their payroll this year is $270 million. They have everyone in their mom playing for them. And top down, like one through nine, their rotation and their batting order, just they're going to blow everybody out of the water. I don't see how anybody can compete with the Dodgers this year, except maybe, oh, God, maybe the Phillies. I don't know. It's going to be tough. I'm so upset at the Dodgers. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:41:59 And I actually tweeted something about it, how the payroll differences in Major League Baseball is pretty much helping to kill the sport. And it's super unfortunate, especially sharing the division with the Dodgers. Yeah, that's not great. We're going to get stomped on them pretty much all season long. Darth saying going to baseball games are still fun. the product on the field may suck, but the beers are always ice cold. That's exactly what I said. Leah and you are on the same page when it comes to that.
Starting point is 00:42:22 And I agree. Only God can compete with the Dodgers. Oh, my God. I love that. I'm stealing that, Darth. No, I'm just kidding. It's true, though. Like, there's nobody that's going to be able to compete with the Dodgers this year.
Starting point is 00:42:31 If they don't win, which, I mean, they're so possibly that they can. It's not even fun, though. No, it's not. It's not fun at all because you go into it knowing that you don't have a chance. And it's just like, why are we here? They're kind of like the Warriors, when the Warriors were winning the NBA, like when Cleveland and the wars are going back and forth for the title every year.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Yeah, that's pretty much like how the Dodgers are right now. You just know. But I mean, I will say, though, if anybody's going to choke in the playoffs, it would be the Dodgers. They're notorious for having an incredible roster and still not winning. So if the, I mean, a light at the end of the tunnel, I guess. I don't know. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:06 So those were the offseason moves that were made by the teams and the trade deadline. Everything roster decision, we kind of recapped. So a fun fact about Ian Kennedy My one time that I had any interaction with him I went out golfing with Goldie Ian Kennedy when he was with the Padres but the Padres were in town facing the 9-Max and the team chaplain
Starting point is 00:43:28 And did a story with him That's pretty cool Yeah because they would still do like I mean Ian Kennedy was still very close with the team chaplain Which maybe that's a story for the story Because the team chaplain is still there But yeah, so, but he was like just a fantastic guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:46 So like for that reason, I'm like, he is a little up there in age now. Yeah, he's a, he's a great guy. So happy to have him. Yeah. I mean, welcome back to the Valley, Ian Kennedy. Okay, so we're going to play a game. But before we get to the game, I do want to tell you guys about our latest partner because they have a product that I use every single day.
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Starting point is 00:46:27 I can't remember. What did I call it anyways? It's a version of F. Mary Kill. If you guys want to play along with us in the comments, please do. We want to include you in this game. It's going to be really fun. So let's get to our first, our first sign extend cut question.
Starting point is 00:46:41 It's dessert themed. So sign is equivalent to like F, extend is like Mary and then cut is like kill. So like sign is you like it. Extend is like you love it and cut is like you hate it. Leah, you go first with this one. No. You got it. You got it.
Starting point is 00:46:57 No. Okay. Cake ice cream cookies. Okay. Okay. This one might be a spicy one. sign cake extend ice cream cut cookies Oh okay
Starting point is 00:47:11 Because a good cookie is good But a bad cookie is really bad And there's no bad ice cream Like ice cream extend for sure Yeah and I just love cake so Okay Jason what would you do There's nothing worse than like a cheap cake With frosting that like literally like stings your teeth as you
Starting point is 00:47:28 As you eat it Fair enough. Have you ever had like you ever had it? You don't know I'm talking about Like the frosting is so sugary that like, yeah. Like the grocery store ones. Yes. Yes. So sign ice cream extend.
Starting point is 00:47:43 That's, I'm saying that right. Sign, extend cut. Yeah. Extend cookies and cut cake. So you're in love with cookies. Cookies is like your favorite. Cookies you're making the long term. Extend is like your long term.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Extend is mail. Ice cream. Ice cream would be your. Ice cream. Extend. Yes. Cookie sign. Cine.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Cut cake. Okay. All right. I think I'm the same. Ice cream is my favorite dessert besides Tiramisu, which by the way, I'm the best of my birthday. If you're looking for the best Tremaseu on the planet, you have to go to fat ox. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Oh my God. It was so good. It was like my birthday cake and I was and Michaela was like, I ate all of it. I saw the joy on her face. So, Bikala, you have it. So ice cream is my favorite. So I'm the same. I think I would extend ice cream.
Starting point is 00:48:32 I would. Sign cookies and I would cut cake. I hate cake. I don't like it at all. There's just nothing about it. I enjoy. Yeah. It's just gross.
Starting point is 00:48:40 You can. I agree. It's all good. Charles Woodall Pike saying he would sign cookies, extend ice cream, cut cake. That's exactly what you guys said. Darth saying he would sign a cake extend ice cream cut cookies. Oh, same as good. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Same as Leah. One for one. Everyone agrees ice cream is the best. Yeah. There's nothing better than ice cream, I don't think. I'm obsessed with it. What's your favorite flavor of ice cream? Um.
Starting point is 00:49:03 I'm a Rocky Road gal. I like really odd things. Okay. Cookies and cream. Like if you're just going to any ice cream shop, cookies and cream always. If you're going to the Hub and Tucson birthday party. And if you're going to the grocery store, half-baked Ben and Jerry. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:49:21 I kind of like weird ones too. Like Rocky Road, butter, pecan and pistachio are probably like my top three. Pistachio and like Almorado cherry. Oh, no, no, no, no. Yeah. All right, what's our next one? Yeah. I think it's because one of my grandparents, that was their thing growing up.
Starting point is 00:49:40 So I'd go to my grandparents' house. And I'd be like, they'd be like, oh, do you want some ice cream? And that's all they had. So when I was super little, I just, like, associated that with, like, a treat. And obviously, do you like Werthers as well? Yeah. Where do you stand on Werthers? Oh, is that the caramel thing?
Starting point is 00:49:55 Yes. Shears it has the palate of an 80-year-old. And all right. That's nice. Sign, extend, the cut, football, hockey, or baseball. I put each of the sport that we love the most up there to make it difficult. Maybe differentiating our answers. That's hard.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Right? I can go first because this is easy for me. Yeah, it's easy for me too. I'm going to extend baseball, obviously. I'm going to sign hockey. I'm going to cut football. Sorry, football. Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:50:24 I know. I love hockey. I think we're all going to have a very different answer. Hockey is my second favorite sport for sure. Is that crazy? I'm going to sign football, extend hockey, and cut baseball. Ouch. My heart.
Starting point is 00:50:40 I mean, there's a clear first for me, so what that extends, right? Yeah, for sure football. That's, football's my sport. Okay. The other two are really difficult. Shoot. I really don't want to cut either one. I'll go sign.
Starting point is 00:51:04 I'm going to go sign baseball. Signed baseball. But that's like really, I could say it could have been like just as easily the other way around. Just as easily. NFL Azy Cardinals saying sign football, extend hockey, cut baseball. Two point on a. NFL AZ cards says to extend is to extend hockey. So that's the favorite.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Chris is extending baseball, signing hockey, cut football. My girl. She agrees with me. How is somebody with NFL AZ Cardinals, I think they're confused. You have to extend. That's the exact same thing I said. Charles Wittal Pike saying he would sign a baseball, extend hockey, cut football. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:45 All right. I know, but isn't extend the best? I think that the name is literally NFL AZ Cardinals. Why wouldn't they extend football? Maybe NFL Aze Cardinals is a giant, oh no. See, swap them around. See, I told you. Come on.
Starting point is 00:52:00 All right, let's do our next one. Sign, extend, cut. This is going to be difficult. Oh, God. Devin Booker, Kyler, and Clayton Keller. The three stars in the valley. Whoa. I don't know what your sister's going to do.
Starting point is 00:52:17 Okay. I can go for first of that helps. I would definitely extend Devin Booker. There's no way in the world I'm letting Devin Booker walk. I think I would... I don't know. I'm going to get canceled. I think I would sign Kyler Murray and Clayton Keller.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Oh, sorry. No, that's fine. Yeah, I think that's what I would do. She's like, that's fine, but I'm going to remember that. I would do the same thing. My thing, I think I'm so lukewarm on the coyotes right now because I do not have any sort of like a emotional investment. Like an emotional investment that you was looking for the right word to say to anybody on that team anymore because there's just there is no team right now. And so like that's an easy one for me.
Starting point is 00:53:07 think in terms of like easily replaceable that's a little harsh I think out of those three like Clayton would be like the easiest to replace in terms of like finding someone who could match his skill set you've got like 20,000 draftics too. I need to say it because like if you don't sign well I agree with extending Booker that's like a no brainer for me and I agree if you don't sign Kyler like who else is going to be your quarterback no one um whereas like you said Clayton Keller there's a ton of wearers high scoring winners in the league although like I don't want to say that because my heart says like sign color cut kiler but my head says it's a business decision leave your emotions out of it i'm kidding i put my emotions on everything um chris saying extend book
Starting point is 00:53:51 sign kiler cut keller so she gives it seems to be the consensus is although a lot of people are cutting kiler a lot of people are cutting karls is on the opposite he's extending keller he's signing booker and he's cutting kiley wow charles you must be a hockey person yeah he is he is he is he is I think you're a hockey person. Trade Kyler. Okay, wow. Lots of opinions on that one. Anthony is saying he would extend book,
Starting point is 00:54:19 sign Clayton and drop Kyler. Off at the bus station, wow, coming out hot, Totry. Geez, okay. Who said that? Anthony. Totry. Oh, my God. Get in here. I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:54:35 NFL Cardinals asked. asking Kime cliff K1 sign, extend, cut. Okay, okay, okay, okay, hang on. She's like, I got this. Okay. Okay, I think you extend K1, you sign Cliff, and you cut Kime. Boom. I think Kyler's more valuable than Cliff.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Is that a hot take? Um, it's probably the most level-headed one to make. I think you cut Kahn no matter what, right? No. tierston give me a second Michaela it's a business decision
Starting point is 00:55:14 yeah I mean I think I think that's like the most like logical thing to do for sure but people are agreeing with you yeah thanks guys and I'll just agree with you too
Starting point is 00:55:26 for the sake of not I was gonna like kind of do like a hot take but like that's the most like level headed answer what would be your hot take extend Cliff my hot take my hot take would be extend cliff sign come cut kailer all right but like but that goes against i mean you can't
Starting point is 00:55:45 like you need kiler at the same time so like that's it goes against what's like should be an appropriate answer yeah but yeah yeah okay all right let's do our next one quickly here extend signing san die stadium food this is an easy one for me this is also easy for me okay you guys go. I already know Cherston's. Extend nacho, sign soft pretzel cut the heck out of an emulsified hot dog. You don't like hot dogs? Oh yeah. If you watched the week
Starting point is 00:56:17 you were in Vegas, we did a bracket of stadium food and Tiersons and I got into it over hot dogs. Into it. A glissy debate. I miss the glissing debate. But I will say that nachos did win our brackets. Wow. I'm surprised. So I agree. Extend nachos, but I'm signing hot dog
Starting point is 00:56:35 and cutting soft pretzel because my take is I am not a pretzel person. I'm not. How do you not like a warm bread with butter and salt? That's like the three best food groups on the planet. First of all I don't, I'm not a huge butter person and pretzels just don't have any flavor to me. It's different cheese. Cheese or mustard. I'd rather eat like tortilla chips and cheese and that's what nachos are. Isn't pretzel and mustard like a Canadian thing? Am I just making that up? I think that's like a just a thing. Oh, okay. I put mustard on my soft pretzels. I just don't like mustard. I just don't like mustard that much. Like I would rather just dunk it in a pile of cheese. Yeah. I, okay, I'm extending
Starting point is 00:57:12 soft pretzels because soft pretzels are my absolute favorite. I will always have a soft pretzel when I go to a game. I'll sign nachos, but it has to have jalapinos on it. Otherwise, I would sign hot dog, but only with mustard. I'm also, I'm a correct person. I hate ketchup on hot dogs. It's disgusting. So if it has jalapenians on it, I would sign nachos and cut hot dog. Everyone who's agreeing with me just know that I see you. It's because Leah, has the taste okay am i to you start saying you would sign soft pretzels extend nachos cut hot dog i just don't i think soft pretzels are so much better than nachos it's a warm bread or salt uh oh my god have you ever had pulled pork nachos yeah you were stuck on the pulled pork idea of it glizzy got
Starting point is 00:57:57 to go nachos have the highest ceiling yes yes exactly hot dogs have the lowest ceiling by far agree but they're still better than soft pretzels to me Um, Chris saying extend pretzel, sign nachos. Not. Okay. And cut hot dog. Yeah, not shitty cheese. I agree with that, Chris.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Chris and I are three for three on these. I'm very happy we're on the same page. Darcang Michaela on fuego. No ketchup on hot dog facts. Thank you. But I do put ketchup on my mac and cheese, which we can totally save for another day. No, I do that too. I put ketchup and hot sauce on my mac and cheese.
Starting point is 00:58:30 You do? Yeah, we've talked about this. Oh, that's right. You're just forgetting. Craig Morgan, if you are watching. watching this turn it off now i have the attention span of a squirrel um i love ketchup up of mac and cheese oh that's definitely canadian thing i've heard that oh yeah indians love ketchup on mac and cheese craft dinner with ketchup oh flames that is so me so good um okay do we have one more okay last one
Starting point is 00:58:54 sign extend cut christmas thanksgiving thanksgiving christmas kut 4th of july the three most iconic extend thanksgiving sign christmas cut 4th of july what really you're canadian that's why i've only I've only been in the U.S. for Fourth of July three times in my life. Really? What? You go to Canada? I go to Canada every summer. Yeah, I've only been here three times.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Are you good to be here this summer? Probably. We're going to have a great Fourth of July. We're going to change your mind. Okay. You can celebrate. And Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday and Christmas is fine. Yeah, thanksgiving is my favorite holiday.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Jewish and Canadian. So this one was easy. How did you not cut Christmas then? Because I like Christmas. I celebrate Christmas. Okay, okay. That's fair. I would extend.
Starting point is 00:59:36 End Thanksgiving. I'm on the same page as you. Thanksgiving is by far my favorite holiday. This might be a hot take. I'm going to sign 4th July and I'm going to cut Christmas. I'm salty about Christmas because my birthday is three days before it. So Christmas is like my least favorite holiday of all time because it takes the attention away from me. Michaela, Christmas is about Jesus in a manger. That's true. I feel bad now. But my birthday is three days before Christmas. I've always hated Christmas. What's yours? Tristan. What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:00:08 I'm extending Christmas. I love Christmas. Also, we do this thing that I hope we never stop doing. But I come, I'm like one of five kids. So all the kids, all the, you know, spouses, their kids, et cetera, my grandparents, like everybody comes and stays the night at my parents' house. So it's like a totally packed house. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:35 It's super fun. There's people like in, there's extra beds set up and every couch is taken and it's just like the house is totally packed. And then we wake up on Christmas morning. We have a huge breakfast, open presents and we all hang out. So like I love that tradition. That used to be my Christmas. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:52 That was changed. My mom's like, here's some cash. Happy Christmas. Yeah. It would be wildly different if like my, if, you know, I was an only child or something like that where it was just like you get to a certain age. And, you know, it is what it is. But my siblings are, like, my youngest sibling is, like, still,
Starting point is 01:01:12 two of my siblings are still in college. Okay. So we're not even to that point yet. Yeah. And then now I've got, like, nieces and things like that. So it's super fun. So extend Christmas. So, yeah, so extend Christmas.
Starting point is 01:01:26 And I love Thanksgiving, too, but I'm going to say sign Fourth of July and cut Thanksgiving. I have a question. You hate Christmas because it interchards. with your birthday. Shane, do you hate Fourth of July because it interferes with your birthday? No, I love Fourth of July. It's a two-day bender. We're extending Christmas, you're signing Fourth of July, you're cutting Thanksgiving,
Starting point is 01:01:45 but you're signing stuffing off of waivers. There you know. Stuffing is the best. I love stuffing. I love stuffing. I mix my cranberries and stuffing. You could also eat stuffing on Christmas, though. Yeah, well, we do. My mom, so all of my siblings and I love stuffing the most, that my mom
Starting point is 01:02:01 saves like a portion of the stuffing from the turkey and Thanksgiving, because we do steak on Christmas just for us to have on Christmas because we love Thanksgiving that much. Yeah. That sounds great. Yeah. But I don't know. I could never get rid of Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 01:02:13 It's the best holiday. It's family food and football. What more could you possibly want? I mean, that's like Christmas too. And also in Phoenix for the Fourth of July is like 120 degrees outside. I associate the Fourth of July with like a boat. Okay. And water.
Starting point is 01:02:29 I wish. Why would you keep Thanksgiving or Fourth of July, Shane? Because Fourth of July is so fun When's your birthday? July 3rd Oh it's the day before Two-day bender at all It's fantastic
Starting point is 01:02:41 And you're not salty about having to share your birthday With the holiday? No, just me then Because I don't get presents on 4th of July Yeah, that's true That's true The day before 4th of July And then I'll fit it on the 4th of July
Starting point is 01:02:52 So essentially it just like extends the celebration Yeah And it usually probably falls over a long weekend too So you don't have to work So she's saying extend Thanksgiving Signed Fourth of July cut Christmas. Dang, you guys. I cut Christmas too. So I guess
Starting point is 01:03:07 yeah, it's the same. Charles saying sign Thanksgiving extend Christmas cut Fourth of July. Dang, Darth is cutting Fourth of July too. Everybody is cutting all of the Fourth of July. I do like Thanksgiving, but I feel like it's so close to Christmas that if we didn't have it, I mean, just had Christmas instead, we could still be good. NFL AZ Cardinals asking us if we would between Jim Carrey, Adam Sandler, and Seth Rogen. I don't know. This is easy for me
Starting point is 01:03:30 because I hate all of them. So cut every single one of them. Their movies are the worst. Oh my God. That is Canadian now. There are two Canadians there. It's not good. Is Jim Carrey and... And Seth Rogen?
Starting point is 01:03:45 What movie is Jim Carrey in? The mask? No. Anyway, I think they're all... Adam Saylor is by far the worst out of all three of them. Adam Sailor movies are hot garbage. Ace Ventura? Yes, Ace Ventura.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Ace Ventura is probably the only Jim Carrey movie I like. Or Dumb and Dumb and Dumber is pretty good, too. Yes, man. Oh, my God. Dumb and Dumb and Damp and Am. like yes, man, but... Adam Sandler is garbage. There's an...
Starting point is 01:04:07 What good Adam Sandler movie is there? You're just going to get yourself. Fifty first date. I will say, are you kidding? The further along in Adam Sandler's career... Happy Gilmore? Sorry.
Starting point is 01:04:17 He is not what he used to be. For sure. Like, he does make now... All the stuff is Adam Taylor now are garbage. Yeah, they're... I agree. But like, in his prime... Uncut gems.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Yes, most of the Netflix specials are terrible. You know? Okay. All right, we're getting off the rails. Thank you guys so much for joining us. Wait, one thing. Emma, the intern, is by my side, and I had to have her make one thing because the Marco Wilson's shoe incident is one of my favorite things I've ever seen in sports.
Starting point is 01:04:46 So, cheers, and this is for you. Oh, my God, I'm scared. Oh, my God. That was incredible. Shout out to our intern, Emma, for calling an audible and creating that absolute work. I love that. everybody listening. Well done.
Starting point is 01:05:08 It was just, it was just Cherson's head on Marco Wilson throwing a shoe that said James Connor isn't worth the money. We're definitely turning that into a meme. That could be used for lots of things in this office.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Keep that file on standby. Very creative. Great job, Emma. That was awesome. Thank you guys so much for tuning into this episode of the Phoenix Sports podcast. For everyone in the comments who played along with us,
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