PHNX Arizona Diamondbacks Podcast - What If Randy Johnson Signed Elsewhere & Other Biggest 'What Ifs' in Arizona Diamondbacks History

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

📬 Arizona sports in your inbox! https://gophnx.com/newsletterIt was the winter of 1999 and Randy Johnson had a big decision to make. The Big Unit was entering free agency as the most coveted free a...gent on the market and had no shortage of suitors. Between the Los Angeles Dodgers, Anaheim Angels, Houston Astros and Texas Rangers, Johnson had every opportunity to make life changing money. But the newly minted Arizona Diamondbacks coming off their inaugural season in 1998 were looking to make a big splash and then managing partner Jerry Colangelo. Well the Diamondbacks were convincing enough and the rest was history! Johnson signed with Arizona and it changed EVERYTHING. Exploring the biggest ‘what ifs’ in D-backs history including Luis Gonzalez’s game winning single in Game 7 of the 2001 World Series, Brandon Webb’s career ending injury, the Max Scherzer and Dansby Swanson trades, and of course, Corey Seager’s game-tying home run in Game 1 of the 2023 World Series (*sigh*). PLUS, we take a look at last night’s All-Star Game and how Ketel Marte, Corbin Carroll and Eugenio Suarez performed. An ALLCITY Network ProductionSUBSCRIBE to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/phnx_youtubeALL THINGS PHNX: http://linktr.ee/phnxsportsMERCH https://store.allcitynetwork.com/collections/phnx-lockerALLCITY Network, Inc. aka PHNX and PHNX Sports is in no way affiliated with or endorsed by the City of PhoenixPHNX Events: Get your tickets to PHNX events and takeovers here: https://gophnx.com/events/ALLCITY — including us here at PHNX — is teaming up with Big Brothers Big Sisters of America for an exciting three-year partnership. To learn more, visit https://www.bbbs.org/allcity/APS:  Find instant rebates, discounts and special offers on smart thermostats, energy-efficient appliances and more at https://marketplace.aps.com/default/heating-cooling/smart-thermostatsChicken N’ Pickle: Family friendly fun awaits! Visit chickennpickle.com to plan your visit today!Phoenix Raceway: Tickets, hospitality and upgrades are still available for the NASCAR Championship Series October 31st through November 2nd! Visit the link HERE to get yours now!bet365: https://www.bet365.com/hub/en-us/app-hero-banner-1?utm_source=affiliate&utm_campaign=usapp&utm_medium=affiliate&affiliate=365_03485317 Use the code PHNX365 to sign up, deposit $10 and bet $5 to get $150 in bonus bets!Disclaimer: Must be 21+ and physically located in AZ.  If you or someone you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call 1-800-NEXT-STEP, text NEXTSTEP to 53342 or visit https://problemgambling.az.gov/Branded Bills: Use code BBPHNX at https://www.brandedbills.com/ for 20% off your first order!Gametime: Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code PHNX for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply.Shady Rays: Head to https://shadyrays.com and use code: PHNX for 35% off polarized sunglasses. Try for yourself the shades rated 5 stars by over 300,000 people.Circle K: Join Inner Circle for free by downloading the Circle K app today! Head to https://www.circlek.com/store-locator to find Circle Ks near you!Monarch Money: Use Monarch Money to get control of your overall finances with 50% off your first year at https://www.monarchmoney.com/phnxAll Pro Shade Concepts: Call 623-204-1476 or visit https://allproshadeconcepts.com/ now to schedule your free estimate!When you shop through links in the description, we may earn affiliate commissions. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Even in the all-star game, our players are getting hit by pitches. Welcome on into the PHNX, D-Backs podcast. Coming to you live, beautiful, lovely downtown Phoenix here at PHNX HQ2. I am your host, Damon Farrell, Damon Dog. I got my guy, Kevin Thomas, pressing buttons for me, making me look good. And, of course, I am not Derek Montia, but he should be back, I think, tomorrow. So do not fret. We will have the crew back tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:00:39 I think we will have Jesse Friedman on. tomorrow no matter what. So we should have the original cast, if you will, on a Thursday edition at noon on the PHNXD-BAC show. But today, we are doing something special. We are doing the biggest what-ifs in DBACs franchise history. And it's going to be a lot of fun in doing so, some good, some bad, some kind of indifferent and some way more open-ended.
Starting point is 00:01:03 But before we do, Kevin, I do just want to talk about real quick what we witnessed last night at the MLB All-Star game. Of course, you know, Katel-Mar. Arté starts things off by getting a couple RBI in that first inning there off to Rik Scuble. You have Corbyn Carol hit a no doubt moonshot home run representing the Arizona Diamondbacks later in the game. And then, of course, A. Eugenio Suarez gets his opportunity and what happens. Oh, that's right. We're still hitting Arizona Diamondbacks players with pitches.
Starting point is 00:01:33 We're still hitting people in the hands. Gino then he goes on to finish the game. It makes a really, really nice defensive play, barehanded grab and throw them out at from the third base spot after charging in. So yeah, I mean, it was a good showing from your Arizona Diamondbacks players in last night's game. Kevin, did you watch the game at all slash? If you did, how did you feel about the swing off format?
Starting point is 00:01:56 Before we get to the swing off format, Damon, I have to get my piece off about the Gino Suarez thing because I was, I was, like I said, you know, I wasn't too tapped in with the All-Star actual game itself. But I was tapped in enough to know that Gino Suarez got hit by a pitch. And that's just what happens when you let a Chicago. White Sock participate in the All-Star game just because they're going to ruin everything. Like they've ruined baseball in that part of Chicago. But my point with all this is, though, is that even I know I'm not like the most diehard of
Starting point is 00:02:25 Diamondbacks, you know, diehards, but even I got a little hit of PTSD watching that. It's like we can't even watch an exhibition game and not be worried about losing one of our important impact players from the starting nine. It's a ridiculous thing. And at least Jazz Chisholm got to hit three home runs in an exhibition home run derby. Because, you know, that was his big moment. It does feel as though like, why are we even throwing inside in an MLB All-Star game? I know that every once in a while there's nothing you can do and that pitches are just going to get away from you.
Starting point is 00:02:58 But it feels like we're pushing the envelope a little bit too much if we're really trying to go inside on an MLB All-Star. It's like, come on, guys. What are we doing here? But the real question is, was the Chicago White Sox pitcher trying to go inside or are they just that bad? Yeah. I mean, he's an all-star, man. He's an all-star. Can't take it from him.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Certainly can't. No, you absolutely cannot. But all together, I thought it was a good all-star game. I did think that the swing-off format was interesting. The nationally gets out to a 6-0 lead in large part because the Arizona Diamondbacks players that were accounted for 50% of that RBI production. But then they move into a swing-off format, something new. have not seen from baseball yet. Instead of going to extra innings and making it take longer than it needs to,
Starting point is 00:03:42 they just have three guys go out there, take a few pitches, and see if they can put them over the fence. Kyle Schwerver goes three for three and hits three bombs, ends up winning MVP of the entire All-Star game because of his performance in the swing-off, which is pretty gnarly. Kevin, what did you think about that new swing-off? Did you like it? Yes, I did.
Starting point is 00:04:01 I will actually answer your question. Now, I did like the swing-off format. I thought it succeeded in getting people to talk about the All-Star game. We talked about it in preview of the All Star game that like people just don't care about what happens, I guess last night in this case, but what happens after the home run derby, people just kind of tune out. I saw more All Star Game tweets than I think I maybe ever have seen on my timeline last night. And it was because of that thrilling style of swing off. It was that, you know, football, football, soccer shootout style, USA hockey style in a way. So yeah, I think that it is a
Starting point is 00:04:35 great add to the All Star Game experience. And I think that it's a great add to the All Star Game experience. And I feel like maybe I'm wrong on this, but I feel like you don't often get ties in these kind of situations. Maybe you do, and I'm misremembering it, but it feels like a nice special occasion kind of thing. I saw, I know, you know, he was at Big 12 Media Day and you and I talked about it. I saw I see Vert talk about how on Twitter he heard it was going to a swing off and sprinted downstairs. And this is like, and that I think is an encapsulation of like the success of the swing off, right? It gets people talking. It gets people interested and it shoots the game, maybe a little bit of adrenaline that it needs
Starting point is 00:05:06 when most people aren't talking about it on a day to day. Yeah, of course, Jonathan Aranda in the swing off was kind of the reason that the American League didn't come out on top. But I guess that makes us All-Star Game Champions, Kevin, because we are the National League here on this podcast, on the PHNXD Back Show. And yeah, shout out the National League. Shout to Swing Off, shout at baseball for doing something actually
Starting point is 00:05:29 decently cool, you know, for once. And, you know, making it an event. making it something that we all wanted to see. But that being said, I was a little bit like, come on, dude. Like, Gino can't even get an invite to the swing off. Like, Gino, he has 31 home runs at the All-Star break, right? He was not invited to the home run derby, despite saying that he would love to be participating in it
Starting point is 00:05:51 if he was offered the opportunity. And then now we need someone to put it over the fence, and he doesn't even get an opportunity to get swings off. It feels like that's the absolute first guy we should have asked to be in the swing off, considering he didn't, get his invite to the home run derby. Maybe it had something to do with him getting hip in the hand, but I was a little bit dismayed by not being able to watch Gino Svarez get
Starting point is 00:06:12 involved in that swing off there. How about that throw that he made, though? Yeah. Coming across the infield, barehanded it, picking it up, throwing it to first, beautiful throw, all-star Gino Suarez. And I feel like, yeah, I think you're right. My inclination was that as soon as he got hit by that pitch, his night in terms of the fun stuff is over.
Starting point is 00:06:30 You know what I mean? He's just doing the routine kind of stuff. The fact that they left him in, though, tells me that he wasn't that hurt, hopefully. But I see a lot of debacks fans making jokes as well about like, oh, no, we'll just have to put him on the 15-day IL. And he can't be traded in the meantime. And then the trade deadline will pass. And then he'll still be on the Diamondbacks. Wouldn't that just be so awful and the worst thing ever?
Starting point is 00:06:55 Oh, my God. But I do feel like, you know, the Diamondbacks, I've heard some things recently that the Diamondbacks are, in fact, interesting. in keeping Eugenio Suarez in Arizona. And he's already said that he would like to stay. I know we talked about his comments that he made about how he could help the Yankees win a World Series potentially when he was asked about that question. But I do think that Gino wants to stay in Arizona. And I think the Diamondbacks are going to try to do everything in their power to hold on
Starting point is 00:07:22 until the last moment where it makes just too much sense to sell off because the team is just dead and gone. But it does feel like that's going to be a situation to monitor. it feels like the Merrill Kelly thing that I've been talking about feels like it has a little bit of legs to it like hey Merrill you want to go to a contender and then maybe come back to Arizona in the off season I could definitely see that thing happening but maybe you know some of the other guys Josh Nehler or Zach Gallen maybe a little bit more likely to be traded than those other two we will find out in the coming weeks and we're going to be talking about trade deadline stuff all the way up until those coming weeks but moving forward Kevin that was our little all star game recap recap from last night. Good event. MLB All-Star weekend, I'd say, is maybe the ultimate All-Star weekend in sports, in American sports in particular.
Starting point is 00:08:10 I do think that you have more people watch and care about the MLB festivities than you do for a lot of the, like the NBA All-Star game, like the Dunk Contest, three-point contest. People watch that. The All-Star game itself, awful, disgusting. No one wants to watch it horrific. I did think that the one year that they did the Janus LeBron draft, though, where they were doing it by quarter and then they had to like come back.
Starting point is 00:08:31 I thought that was kind of fun, but they went away from that a little bit more so. The Pro Bowl is the worst. Everyone knows that. And I will say this year, the Four Nations kind of took over sports, right? And Four Nations is, if they're going to continue to do that in Nick's the All-Star Game, Four Nations is by far in a way the ultimate All-Star Game event. But in terms of true All-Star games, I think it will be takes the cake. Yeah, no, I think so too in terms of the overall weekend or week in this case experience.
Starting point is 00:08:58 like the NBA I think is more of like a I don't know it's it's weird right you had the three point contest and the dunk contest and I think on their face a lot of people care about those things but then you get to the all-star game and you do have to get kind of gimmicky with it to one get people interested in continuing to watch but also to get the players interested in watching which is such a weird concept in that league but yeah I think you're right the mb all-star game all-star game week weekend is is one of the most premier in the major sports for certain well that is our all-star game recap we're going to talk more about the biggest what ifs in Arizona Diamondbacks history.
Starting point is 00:09:31 And we're going to do that after the break here on the Azy Wildcats podcast. But first, let's talk about pure edibles. Pure Edibles was founded in the great state of Arizona. And they are not covered in a bunch of sugar like a lot of their other competitors. They offer unique cannabinoids such as CBN, CBG, CBD and marijuana-derived THC that give you all sorts of benefits, such as sleep support, maybe a little bit of energy uplift. You name it, man. Pure Edibles has you covered.
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Starting point is 00:12:02 Lots of teams that, you know, certainly have made it close, have not gotten the job done, and we all remember the pain and agony of it. The Arizona Diamondbacks are no different. There's also some positive ones on here, also some more open-ended ones, but we're going to talk about the 10 greatest what-ifs in Arizona Diamondbacks history,
Starting point is 00:12:19 rolling off with some honorable mentions to start, things that maybe I couldn't find enough information on, but have heard rumors of in the past. there's been a lot of stuff about whether or not Ronald Acuna may have been very close to signing with the Arizona Diamondbacks. I believe that the rumor is that he was, the Diamondbacks were about $10,000 short of signing Ronald Acuna. What could have been if Ronald Acuna was signed by the Arizona Diamondbacks?
Starting point is 00:12:45 Obviously, you know, out of, out of, you know, a country that, you know, maybe is not, it's a little bit hit and miss, right? when you're bringing on a lot of these international prospects. He's a Venezuelan player. Diamondbacks have had a big Venezuelan influence in their organization. Herodos Para, Miguel Montero, Gino Suarez, you name him, man. A lot of Venezuelan players have suited up in Arizona. This could have been another one, and it ultimately didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:13:16 One that I remembered from back in my childhood that scarred me and stuck with me for life, but I couldn't find the damn Sports Illustrated article on it because apparently that's not thing that we do where we upload vault articles to the internet from 2012. But when Mike Trout was really bumping on the scene in 2012 in his rookie season for the Los Angeles Angels,
Starting point is 00:13:38 he was the talk of the town, right? He was everybody was talking about Mike Trout. Should he win MVP as a rookie? Sports Illustrator wrote an article on him about what a great player he has come to be and how he got into an angel's uniform. I vividly remember reading that article and a Diamondbacks,
Starting point is 00:13:54 the head Diamondback scout walking into the MLB draft war room for the Arizona Diamondbacks, the year that Mike Trout was drafted in 2009, walking into the room and saying essentially to the other scouts in the room, Mike Trout is the best athlete in this draft. We should draft him here on the first round. The Diamondbacks go on to draft A.J. Pollock, I believe, in that first round. Great player, good player, good draft pick, you know, All-Star, but not Mike Trout. Certainly not Mike Trout, and you never know what could change with this organization. I think that both of those could have been made if I potentially could have found more information on those topics.
Starting point is 00:14:30 But ultimately, you know, a little bit scarce in regards to how close the Diamondbacks ultimately were to, you know, getting those prospects. But we're going to start off here on a little bit more of a lighter note. Something funny here, Kevin, for our 10th. What if we're going, what if Bank One Ballpark was never actually named Bank One? ballpark um this one is is a little bit more silly it's a little bit less drastic as to you know what the ultimate outcome could have been in said circumstance uh but uh we all know that you know the the diamond backs through bank one ballpark b ob bob if you will uh the diamond backs fans started calling bank one ballpark the bob uh you know we're going to pop down to to bob and and watch a game
Starting point is 00:15:19 out of that stems our beloved mascot Baxter, who happens to be a bobcat, which is an animal that is very native to the state of Arizona, very popular here in the state of Arizona. You know, he's related to Wilbur Wildcat. I don't know if you guys knew that at home. But the beloved mascot Baxter would have never been made a bobcat, most likely if Bank One Ballpark was never the sponsor,
Starting point is 00:15:45 meaning what kind of mascot could we have gotten? Kevin, could we have gotten a snake mascot? I mean, I'm learning a lot right now based on that. It's kind of blow on my mind. First of all, the $10,000 being the difference between Acuna and the Diamondbacks. Second of all, the Bob is one of the most electric nicknames for an arena I've ever heard in my life. It's so like, it's such a rudimentary, like, basic name. No offense if your name is Bob in the chat.
Starting point is 00:16:10 But like, being like, yeah, we're going down to the Bob this weekend, catching some D-Backs games. We're going to, yeah, it's going to be have a couple, you know, 9-99 challenges. just thrown in there along the season. And you're cooking with gas. This is a good one, Damon. This is a good one to start off the list. Yeah, it is. It's an interesting one, but it's not necessarily one that, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:26 changes the outlook of the entire organization as a whole. And that's where we'll get into number nine here on our list. What if Dansby Swanson was never traded to the Atlanta Braves? Danesby Swanson, we all remember, was the number one overall pick for the Arizona Diamondbacks back in the day. Before even suiting up for the Diamondbacks, I believe in a minor league game Danesby Swanson was finding a new home in his, I believe, home state of Georgia. I'm pretty sure Danes B. Swanson is a native of Georgia.
Starting point is 00:16:56 So I'm sure that he was pretty pumped up about the idea of moving to his hometown team, the team that he probably grew up a fan of, right? Yeah, he's from Kennesaw, Georgia. But Danesby Swanson has become a great player. He's a two-time All-Star. He was a World Series champion in 2021. And he never, ever played for the team that drafted him. despite drafting him number one overall, which is pretty crazy, right?
Starting point is 00:17:21 Like, you never really see an opportunity for a team to not play a guy who they drafted number one overall. Usually you allow that guy to develop in your organization. You want to get a look at him, right? But not Dave Stewart, not Tony Larusa. They go ahead. They trade Dansby-Sponson for the newly vindicated Shelby Miller. But at the time, Shelby Miller was an absolute bum for this franchise.
Starting point is 00:17:46 is Shelby Miller sported a 5-18 record in his three seasons with the Diamondbacks, Kevin, a 635 ERA that haunted Diamondbacks fans forever. And, you know, at the end of the day, you know, I mentioned Dansby Swanson. He was an All-Star in 2022. He was an All-Star in 2023. The Arizona Diamondbacks go on to play in the World Series in 2020. They barely lose the World Series in 2023. Could All-Star Dansby Swanson have been the jumpstart that this franchise needs?
Starting point is 00:18:16 needed to become a two-time World Series champion. You never know, man. I think that you can make the argument that things change for the Braves in 2021 as well. And then just the future of the sport in general is just drastically different if Danesby Swanson had never gotten traded to the Atlanta Braves because you never know what happens in 2021. You never know what happens in 2023.
Starting point is 00:18:40 But we do know that Danesby Swanson never suited up for the Arizona Diamondbacks. moving on. What if Ryan Braun was suspended in the 2011 postseason where the Arizona Diamondbacks played the Brewers in the NLDS? The Diamondbacks, of course, had a great team that season. One of the best teams in franchise history, no doubt. The 2011 Arizona Diamondbacks lost three to two to the Milwaukee Brewers. in, which was, of course, it was a five-game series, of course, in the NLDS, as we all know. But the Diamondbacks lost three to two in that series.
Starting point is 00:19:22 I went to game three of that series, Kevin. I believe it was game three. I'm checking here to make sure it was the game that Paul Goldschmidt hit a grand slam in that game. Yes, he did. Game three, the Diamondbacks were down two-oh. Paul Goldschmidt was a rookie, Kevin. He went into the game. He hit a grand slam.
Starting point is 00:19:42 The Diamondbacks blew them. out in game three. They then won game four as well, forcing it to a game five where they would end up losing to the Milwaukee Brewers by a score of three to two as Niger Morgan hit a walkoff single to win it. The problem with this series, Kevin, was Ryan Braun was absolutely unbelievable. I wonder why he was unbelievable. You think there could have been any reason as to why he was so good?
Starting point is 00:20:13 Ryan Braun was popped for steroids directly prior to this, this playoff run. He, they, they, they did a test on him. They found his, they found that his sample had some performance enhancing drugs in it. And then Ryan Braun denied, denied, denied, denied. He went on to ruin the reputation of a major league baseball. I don't know if it, I think it's an independent person, actually. I don't know if they work for MLB in particular, but basically just, called the guy a liar said that he diluted the sample that he was going after Ryan Braun.
Starting point is 00:20:47 And what do we find out in the long term Ryan Braun actually was on performance enhancing drugs? Ryan Brock ultimately catches a suspension of 50 game suspension for having an abnormally high level of testosterone in his sample, in his band substances sample that was taking during his MVP season in 2011. Another aspect of this, Ryan Braun wouldn't have won that MVP. likely if he was not doing steroids, right? Matt Kemp had an unbelievable season. I think that was the year Matt Kemp went 40 and 40, meaning 40 home runs, 40 stolen bases. Not that I'm rooting
Starting point is 00:21:23 for Los Angeles Dodgers to receive major accolades, but if you're Matt Kemp, you have to feel that you got a little bit screwed over in that circumstance because you had an MVP caliber season and Ryan Braun snatches that from you by, you know, doing performance enhancing drugs and it, you know, kind of leading to him having this unbelievable couple of seasons here. He was immediately requested for his second test after the Brewers had been eliminated in that in that World Series, but or in that playoffs, I should say, that postseason. But it was kind of a situation where Ryan Braun just denied when, and they allowed him to play because, you know, they were investigating it.
Starting point is 00:22:08 and then he does, you know, he goes off in this series, Kevin. He goes nine for 18 in the five game series. 500 batting average in those five games. 571 on base percentage, 889 slug, 1460 OPS, hit one home run at four RBI, four doubles. I mean, the guy was unbelievable in that playoff series. He was the best player on the entire field between both teams. I think it's fair to say the Diamondbacks, win that series if Ryan Braun was not allowed to play. What say you, Kevin? I agree. And I think,
Starting point is 00:22:44 you know, you know how I feel about John Jones. You know how I feel about people who cheat the sport. You know how I feel about people who take shortcuts and maybe steal valor from those that work every day just as hard as they, as that person should, to get the same accomplishments. And who knows? You know, I'm sure Matt Kemp is feeling pretty fine. Like you said, 40 and 40 that year. You forgot an important 40. 40 dates with Rihanna that year as well. Matt Kemp was winning. winning on and off the field. And Ryan Braun was, yeah, winning on the field, cheating off the field, and getting caught after the fact.
Starting point is 00:23:15 So, yeah, I mean, I agree with you. This is a great what if. What if the sports rules were upheld? And Ryan Braun was banned from this series of baseball. Ryan Braun texted the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel when the accusations came out. This is all BS. I am completely innocent. So you know that when someone says that, that they're completely guilty.
Starting point is 00:23:38 But, wait, what are you supposed to say? The information was supposed, was not supposed to be public until after, but it was, it was actually leaked. For a little bit more details, the test result was collected on October 1st, just before game one of the NLDS against the Arizona Diamondbacks. Braun immediately requested a second test, and it wasn't become, it wasn't, it wasn't, it didn't become public knowledge until December 11th. so after the Diamondbacks had been eliminated after the World Series champion had already been
Starting point is 00:24:11 crowned. But Major League Baseball knew about the sample, the positive sample, before he played the Diamondbacks and he still got to play in the series and he still got to eliminate the debacks. Kevin, I feel like you are almost even more like we can talk about this even deeper because you happen to be a St. Louis Cardinals fan and who ended up winning the World Series championship in 2011, the St. Louis Carlin. Cardinals, I'm ready to just get up here and say that the DBA. That's the D-Backs World Series, bro.
Starting point is 00:24:42 If Ryan Braun isn't allowed to play, we win that NLDS. We go on to win the whole freaking Shabang. I was so with you on the Ryan Braun Slander. I was with you on the steroid slander, the cheating of the game, you know, all that. I think we're getting a little too over our skis here with this extrapolation of this, what if. You never know coming up against a juggernaut like the St. Louis Cardinals, what could happen but it would have been a hell of a series and we did get robbed of that series because of
Starting point is 00:25:11 ryan brons we could be you on this on this diamond backs podcast could either be flexing or we could be kind of going after you pretty often it it would have been a fun dynamic having played the cardinals in a playoff series i don't think that that's ever happened in at least to my knowledge since i've been a little bit older maybe it happened in the i'll double check oh 201 era of things but uh i don't remember a cardinals playoff series happening um but lots of lots of lots of all-time Cardinals on that team, by the way, Kevin. Probably some of your favorite players of all time. Lance Berkman, Chris Carpenter, D'Bach's Legend, Daniel Descalso, David Fries, of course,
Starting point is 00:25:50 who went on to win World Series MVP, Matt Holiday, Dback's legend, Edwin Jackson, Dback's legend, John Jay, Kyle Losh, who you brought up the other day in the office, Lance Lynn, Yadi, of course, Albert Pujols, of course. Fun team, man, fun team, but Diamondbacks totally beat that team. everyone knows it if they uh if if ryan brawn uh is is not pop for or is pop for steroids not allowed to play in the 2011 nlDS moving on to number seven real quick the cardinals have a five and three record against the diamond backs in the postseason all time according to stat muse they played uh it looks like five times a five game series in 2001 and a three games
Starting point is 00:26:27 who won that one in 2002 who won that one it looks like the results say inconclusive that's weird that's weird they wouldn't have a result for that series we like lost in 2002, right? Yeah. To the Cardinals. And then in 2001, obviously, the Diamondbacks win the whole thing. So must have won that one. But definitely more world or postseason history with the St.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Louis Cardinals than I expected. So I'm sure as this is a taped episode that I am being called an idiot by plenty of people in the comments right now. But sorry, guys. We figured it out already. So you're talking to past Damon, who is ignorant because future Damon and present Damon knows that the Diamondbacks and Cardinals played multiple, playoff series against each other.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Type into the void if you must. The next one here, Kevin, is one of the most interesting and open-ended ones I think you could find on the entire list. I thought about putting, what if Catelle-Marte was never a part of the Gene Segura trade to the Seattle Mariners in here? Because Catele-Marte was, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:27 is going to probably end up the greatest hitter in Arizona Diamondbacks history. But I decided to go even deeper than that, Kevin. And I found out and reminded myself, do you guys remember in 2012, one year after that 2011 season, Justin Upton was on the trading block? The Seattle Mariners attempted to trade for Justin Upton. They had some of the best pitching prospects in all of baseball within their ranks of their minor league system at the time. Danny Holtson, as well as Taiwan Walker, who we all know and remember, Taiwan Walker was a part of that catastrophe.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Helmarte trade that happened a couple years in the future, Kevin. I want you to walk with me here for a second because this one can get a little bit nuts. If Justin Upton didn't have a no trade clause, what if Justin Upton didn't have a no trade clause? What if Justin Upton didn't decline his trade to the Seattle Mariners? Well, the Diamondbacks likely would have gotten Taiwan Walker back in that deal for Justin Upton. He was one of the highest pitching prospects in all of baseball. Upton was a top five MVP candidate in the National League in 2011.
Starting point is 00:28:36 had a big price tag at that point. And then that price tag got a little bit smaller after we traded him to the Braves the year after. But Kevin, I think it's safe to assume considering the Diamondbacks ended up trading for Taiwan Walker that he was the ultimate target in that deal for the Arizona Diamondbacks. Wouldn't you say that that is probably a safe assumption to make? Yeah. And I actually, I really appreciate you going the deep dive here because I didn't really remember
Starting point is 00:29:01 that part about the no trade clause and the implication of if he. didn't have that no trade clause to tell marty but i need i need you to i need you just answer me just give me yes or no real quick yeah you think you think you think you think tywan walker is probably the the the trade target correct if if just enough if considering they traded for him three years in the future right and in and they they clearly coveted him he was definitely in the talks i think that it's safe to assume that taiwan walker was the trade target for the arizona diamondbacks when trading Justin up in that deal. And if that move had been made, Kevin,
Starting point is 00:29:38 do the Diamondbacks then try to trade for, for, you know, Taiwan Walker in the future? No, they don't because he's already on the team. If Taiwan Walker's already on the team, then there is no Gene Sigura for Taiwan Walker and Cateau-Marty trade, where Catea was the third, fourth biggest piece, Mitch Hanigur also in the deal for the Mariners.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Ketel-Marte was the throw-in of that deal. He was probably the fourth most coveted player, of that trade. That trade never goes down if Taiwan Walker was traded already from the Justin Upton side of things. I think we're looking at if Justin Upton doesn't deny his trade to the Mariners, Coutel Marte is never an Arizona diamond back. Yeah. And to be clear, I think you're right about all of that. And it's kind of crazy to think, right? It's like in the drafts kind of situation, kind of almost like you outlined earlier with Trout in a way, where you covet a player early. You're not able to get that player at a certain point in time. But that does not mean that
Starting point is 00:30:33 your interest in that player ever wanes or your faith in their potential ever wanes unless obviously they don't play up to that potential so yeah i think if they're looking for taiwan walker in that first iteration of the trade and then justin ups and says i'm good i think you go back again later and you get to you get to tell marty out of it and now we're all happy people uh celebrating in the marty partay and at the time it probably would have seen been seen as the mariner's package was more valuable than that braves package that netted you martin prado randald dolgado and and nick omit who ended up actually being the best player for the team out of that deal, despite also being one of the more throw-in kind of parts of that trade.
Starting point is 00:31:10 So I think that the butterfly effect of that is insane. You know, the 20-23 run probably never happens because Catele's not on the team. It's just a crazy rundown of events. But we're going to round out our bottom five, top 10, what-ifs here, Kevin, with number six. What if Max Scher was never traded to the. Detroit Tigers from the Arizona Diamondbacks. Max Scherzer has gone on to be, you know, one of, if not, the pitcher of a generation here in Major League Baseball.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Looking at his stats for the Arizona Diamondbacks, Scherzer was really not that great at ages 23 and 24 for the debacks. He wasn't bad either, but went 0 and 4 his first year, you know, had a 305 ERA, so it wasn't really his fault. only pitched in 16 games, started seven of them. The next year for the Arizona Diamondbacks, he started 30 games for the team, went 9 and 11, had a 412 ERA, just wasn't really the level of pitcher
Starting point is 00:32:14 that we would ultimately come to know in Detroit. But it wasn't until three seasons in Detroit that he became a staple of the MLB All-Star game, making the next seven All-Star games in a race, row in Detroit, and then missing an all-star game with the Washington Nationals because he was ultimately traded to the Los Angeles Dodgers that year. So, oh, no, it was because he got hurt that season. So, and then made it the year after that.
Starting point is 00:32:45 So we're talking about a three-time Sy Young Award winner. We're talking about a first ballot Hall of Famer. We're talking about a generational pitcher in Max Scherzer for an organization that has struggled to find pitchers that work out and are consistent. and are good for this team forever. It's pretty much been the issue with the Diamondbacks from, you know, the World Series run on. We've joked about the Randy Johnson Kurt Schilling curse.
Starting point is 00:33:12 We were given two generational players, and then we were never really allowed to have consistent and good pitching from that point forward until the rest of time. The Diamondbacks did net some decent pieces out of this deal, so I don't want to make it seem like they got nothing. Ian Kennedy was a great pitcher for this team. He finished top five in Cy Young voting in 2011 was a big part of that NLDS roster
Starting point is 00:33:37 that we talked about earlier in this show. He was the ace of that team, and he deserves a lot of credit for having a great career in Arizona. Edwin Jackson was also a part of the deal. He had a no-hitter here for the Diamondbacks. I believe it was the first no-hitter in franchise history. Or actually, no, Randy Johnson had a perfect game.
Starting point is 00:33:56 but Edwin Jackson was he's one of the only uh you know no hitters in in diamondbacks franchise history uh you know wasn't necessarily a great pitcher he was kind of an average pitcher but um you you know you did get net something out of the deal there were some concerns uh regarding you know his tenure with the diamond backs people thought that his violent throwing motion was going to lead to him potentially being an injury prone type of player and uh there was a lot of concerns about his long-term health, Max Scherzer then went ahead and just, you know, put that,
Starting point is 00:34:29 put that to bed during his long-storied career, mostly in Detroit, a little bit in Washington as well, where he ended up winning a World Series championship. And then in Detroit, he played in, I believe, one World Series,
Starting point is 00:34:43 at least, maybe two. He was actually a two-time World Series champion, so I apologize to Max Scherzer. You had better apologize to Parkway Central graduate. That's right. He was on the Rangers. He was on the Rangers team that beat us in 2023. Maybe that doesn't happen.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Who knows? Isn't this fun that what we're doing here? Isn't this exercise therapeutic? But that is our bottom five, top 10. What if Sierra in Arizona Diamondbacks history? Starting off with, what if Bank One Ballpark was never made Bank One Ballpark? Baxter wouldn't have been the ultimate mascot of the Arizona Diamondbacks.
Starting point is 00:35:17 What if Danesby Swanson was not traded to the Atlanta Braves for Shelby Miller? What does that change across baseball? 2020 one World Series for the Braves, 2023 World Series runner up for the debacks. Do either of those things change? Ryan Braun, what if he was not allowed to play baseball despite a positive sample of expanded testosterone
Starting point is 00:35:36 before the 2011 NLDS, where he went on to be the MVP of that series and by far in a way the best player on the field? Do the Diamondbacks then go further in that playoff run? Do they maybe go on another World Series run? You never know. Number seven, what if Justin Upton, didn't deny his trade to the Seattle Mariners.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Would that have ultimately led to the Diamondbacks not landing Cantell Marte in a future trade for Taiwan Walker? Could he have been the package for that Justin Upton Deal in 2012? And then rounding it out here with our last one, what if Max Scherzer was not traded to the Detroit Tigers? What if he was in Arizona Diamondback? And the Diamondbacks had invested in him, trusted in him, and allowed him to develop within their organization.
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Starting point is 00:40:16 I don't know. Have you ever heard of this? Yes, from Derek. I have heard of this. I have. Interesting enough, there is a league-wide contraction plan that was put into place by baseball in 2001. They didn't give the players union a chance to vote on it. Major League Baseball was going to disband two franchises across the league.
Starting point is 00:40:35 They talked about a few franchises that they were ultimately going to potentially disband, and they landed on the Minnesota Twins and the Montreal Expos. Those two teams were to be eliminated for the 2002 season moving forward in Major League Baseball, because those two teams were not making enough money, supposedly, and those two teams did not have the requisite resources, stadium and whatnot to, you know, kind of be considered a team that they wanted to keep here. So there were some other teams that they talked about doing this with.
Starting point is 00:41:07 I know the Marlins were a big rumor, potentially, you know, taking away the Marlins franchise, you know, right after they had won a World Series, I believe in 1999 the Marlins won. So that would have been pretty crazy if that happened. But there was a lot of moving parts that were going on in regards to this. The expos ended up becoming the nationals, as we all know, the twins still in Minnesota to this day. But the butterfly effect was real, man.
Starting point is 00:41:34 If the Diamondbacks were moved from the National League West after the 2001 season to the American League West, I think that this would have been a best case scenario for the Arizona Diamondbacks, right? I mean, you can't take away the 2001 World Series because everything would have happened exactly. the same. The Diamondbacks still would have been playing in the NL West. They still would have been playing in the National League. They still would have gone through entirely and won the National League, won the World Series in 2001, but then right directly after that happened, the league would have moved the Diamondbacks from a much more strenuous division that we like to call the N hell West to a division that Kevin is a lot easier, frankly. They would have
Starting point is 00:42:20 been placed in the division with the Anaheim Angels, the Oakland Athletics, and the Seattle Mariners. The Houston Astros, of course, were in the National League Central at the time. It was before their move that they made to the AL West, where they have since been the dominant team in the AL West since their move. They have multiple World Series out of it, multiple world series appearances. I mean, it really feels like this American League West was incredibly open-ended, that there was a big opportunity for the Diamondbacks to join. join this division, the Rangers and other team that's been a little bit one of the better teams in this division. They obviously made the 2011 World Series where your Cardinals ended up beating them, Kevin.
Starting point is 00:42:58 They beat the Diamondbacks in 2023. That doesn't happen right if the Diamondbacks are moved. But the D-backs would have been in a division with the Angels, the A's, and the Mariners, three teams that pretty much suck and aren't super good all the time and don't spend a lot of money. And man, we could have been the class of that division. I mean, we were talking about this pre-show, like this, the branching effects of not being in the N hell west and not having to deal with the pain of coming on postgame shows and being like, well, the Diamondbacks have won their third straight. And yes, they are still X amount of games back from second place in the division. It's ridiculous, right?
Starting point is 00:43:35 And I think that not being in the division, you spoke to it as well, you would see so much branching effects of success for just being able to compete at a higher level. And I'm not saying that the Diamondbacks can't come. Pete in the N.O. West. But if you lower the level of competition, you might have more division titles. You might have more free agent signings. You never know what the effects of simply winning can be. So yeah, this is a huge what if. Absolutely. It's absolutely massive. And it's one that I learned much more about today. I think maybe I've heard about it in the past, but I did research into it today than more than I ever have. And yeah, man, I think that that you could be talking about a completely different franchise right now if the Arizona Diamondbacks were in the American League
Starting point is 00:44:16 West, especially competing up against those teams, right? Because those teams are nothing special, nothing to write home about. Would the Diamondbacks have about 10 more division championships? I think you could certainly make the argument because you're not competing for wildcards solely like we are in this division with the Los Angeles Dodgers. So it also changes the 2023 run. What happens there? You know, the Rangers are in a different division.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Do the Diamondbacks still make it? You never know. But yeah, I just think that, you know, you still win that World Series. and you get moved to an easier division, you have more chances in the postseason, you probably have a better chance of bringing home a second World Series title. An interesting one for sure.
Starting point is 00:44:54 The fourth one on this list, and some people I think might want to put this one higher. What if Brandon Webb didn't have a career-ending injury? Brandon Webb was obviously one of the elite pitchers in Major League Baseball. Finished his career with an 87 and 62 record. A 3-27 ERA was well on a. his way to being a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Won a Sy Young in 2006, finished second in Syung voting the next two years. So he was a top two Syung candidate for three years in a row, which is absolutely elite stuff. Only top of the top line starting pitchers get anywhere close to that. And then in 2009, he, you know, he pitches one game. He has that elbow injury. He has a 13 and a half ERA. And Brandon Webb is never the same.
Starting point is 00:45:45 We all know Webby was an all-time pitcher in the making. We all know that he was destined probably to be the second greatest pitcher in franchise history right after Randy Johnson, probably ahead of Kurt Schilling, as crazy as that is to say. But his career was tragically cut short, ultimately, and it was on his opening day start in 2009. He got surgery. He had a bunch of setbacks, rotator cuff surgery as well. he officially retired in 2013 after trying to work his way back for so many years. He tried to work his way back with the Rangers, of course, after the Diamondbacks let him go.
Starting point is 00:46:24 And yeah, man, it was, that was pretty brutal. Experiencing that was pretty brutal because as that's, that just goes to show the curse that this Diamondbacks organization has from a pitching standpoint of like, can we just get out of our own freaking way when it comes to, you know, having, having pitching like quality starting pitching bullpen pitching Brandon Webb was that guy he was probably going to be the longest
Starting point is 00:46:49 tenure Diamondbacks pitcher was going to be a staple of this franchise for so long he gets hurt at the at the ripe young age of in 2009 of how old was he in 2009
Starting point is 00:47:05 math is math can be hard you gotta do the birthday some guys are born like 89 that's a weird number to do math with You know I'm bad with numbers. He was 30. He was in the prime of his career. He probably had five more prime years left of elite starting pitching, as most elite pitchers do. They go kind of well into their mid-30s.
Starting point is 00:47:26 We lost out on a Hall of Fame career. We lost out on him being the ace of that 2011 team that was a true contender. We missed out on him being there for these Paul Goldschmidt years towards the latter end of his career. I think that you could talk yourself into a lot of things changing if Brandon Webb was in fact an Arizona Diamondback and, you know, able to pitch at that elite level for the rest of his career. One of those ones as Diamondbacks fans that will never forget, surely. Going on to number three, this one could be higher, I would argue, Kevin, but the only reason I'm not putting it higher is because the game would not have been over. So the Arizona Diamondbacks in 2001 in Game 7 of the World Series, we all know Mariana Rivera, the greatest closing pitcher in the history of the game, the most clutch bullpen arm in the history of Major League Baseball. He blew a save in Game 7 of the World Series.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Not a save. He blew the – he got the loss in Game 7 of the World Series, I believe, where Luis Gonzalez ultimately hit a bloop single into the shallow outfield. might have even landed on the infield dirt right above Derek Jeter's head. And the Diamondbacks end up winning the 2001 World Series on a walkoff hit one of the greatest world series in all of the sports history. What if the New York Yankees were playing to turn a double play instead of playing infield in? And now I know that's not the most realistic scenario in the world because it's the World Series.
Starting point is 00:48:55 It's game seven. You're not going to let that run score no matter what. You're not risking trying to get a double play and allowing that run to score. score, but in a normal circumstance, Luis Gonzalez, that hit would have been an easy out for for Derek Jeter to have caught that. He didn't hit it hard. He didn't hit it far. It was a blooper.
Starting point is 00:49:13 And if the infield wasn't in, that's an out. If the Yankees are trying to turn to there being a little bit more aggressive, that's an out. And like I said, you know, it wouldn't have ended the game. It would have been two outs in the game and the Diamondbacks would have had a chance to put that winning run across the board with with their next batter. but it just really does the change in the organization. You don't get that walk off.
Starting point is 00:49:35 You don't get that all-time moment. And maybe, just maybe, the Yankees end up winning that game in extra innings and the Diamondbacks are zero-time World Series champions. I think that that is a crazy, crazy look back. And, you know, you could really talk yourself into, does that change things for the Arizona Diamondbacks in that 2001 World Series? Because that wasn't a hard hit ball. That wasn't a conventional hit.
Starting point is 00:49:58 But you did get a little bit lucky. just kind of getting jammed on that one and enforcing it over Derek Jeter's head there. Moving on to the number two, what if in Arizona Diamondbacks history, and this one is a positive one, guys, I promise, because we've been doing a lot of doomsday disaster,
Starting point is 00:50:16 kind of what if scenarios here as Diamondbacks fans. What if Randy Johnson was never an Arizona Diamondback? What if he didn't sign with the team? The trickle-down effect is real. Randy Johnson signed with the Arizona Diamondbacks in the 1999 off season. He was the most coveted free agent. On the market, of course, he was a Hall of Famer in the making.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Six foot 10 left, he throws absolute gas. Every team wanted a piece of Randy Johnson. There were some teams that were rumored to be even more in on Randy Johnson, Kevin. But he took a chance on the Arizona Diamondbacks, and it worked out, no doubt, in the long run. One of those teams, Kevin, that was supposedly interested in bringing Randy Johnson into their organization, Drumroll, please. The Los Angeles Dodgers. Now, how freaking gross would that have been?
Starting point is 00:51:09 Supposedly, there was a short list of teams that were really interested in bringing Randy in. The Rangers was one of them. The Angels was another. The Dodgers and the Diamondbacks were the other two. He ends up signing with the Diamondbacks because Jerry Colangelo and Co. Convinced Randy Johnson and his agents
Starting point is 00:51:28 that signing with Arizona was the right move because the Diamondbacks were going to be competing at a high level for World Series championships in the coming future. Randy Johnson, they were an expansion franchise. They were just one year off of expansion. He had no reason to believe that that was the actual truth, but it was.
Starting point is 00:51:44 And it ended up being a damn fact. And in large part, because Randy Johnson was on that team, it never happens without Randy Johnson. That 01 World Series obviously does not happen without co-world series MVP, Randy Johnson. but, you know, it was great work by Jerry Colangelo to convince the left-hander to sign with the Arizona Diamondbacks, despite being a new franchise, despite being a franchise that didn't have a lot in the way of competitiveness at that point in its organization. And despite a lot of other teams being interested in bringing in the Hall of Fame lefty, as is,
Starting point is 00:52:24 Apparently the Astros offered three years, $33 million as well. The Angels ended up signing Mo Vaughn to $80 million for six years instead of giving Randy Johnson that contract. But Randy Johnson took a chance on this organization and we will forever thank him for it. Kevin, the final what if an Arizona Diamondbacks history. It's pretty simple. And you guys have seen, I'm sure, the content that we've already. done on it if you haven't check out it check it out on our phnx sports youtube channel as well as our phnx sports twitter page phnx underscore sports what if corey seager didn't homer off of paul seewald
Starting point is 00:53:06 in game one of the twenty twenty three world series this is one that's going to haunt me for the rest of my life my guys um and gals cori seager goes in in the ninth inning paul seawald he was money all postseason he was money second half of the the Arizona Diamondbacks year in 2023. Paul Sewell goes up there, gives up a two-run bomb to Corey Seeger where I'm pretty sure that that ball is still in the air. I'm pretty sure Corey Seeger has not stopped yelling
Starting point is 00:53:37 since he hit that, Kevin. I don't know if you remember that and it scarred you as much as it scarred me, but Corey Seeger was screaming mid-contact with that pitch. Like, I'm not even playing. Go back and watch the replay. If you go back and watch it, Corey Seeger is mid-swing.
Starting point is 00:53:53 He makes contact. And as he's finishing his swing, his swing, he knows it's over the fence. Probably the fastest, no doubt, someone I've ever seen Pimpa, no doubter in the history of baseball. But Corey Seeger goes on to tie that game, Adolas Garcia, who should be
Starting point is 00:54:08 probably popped for steroids, if you ask me, was the one that hit the walkoff in that game one. And the Diamondbacks go on to win game two by a score of, I believe, 10 to 1. DeBacks Rangers game two
Starting point is 00:54:23 2023. The Diamondbacks go on to win that next game by a score of 9 to 1, not 10 to 1, but in blowout fashion, the Diamondbacks win that one. If the Diamondbacks had won that game 1, they go up 2.0, 2.0 in that World Series in 2023. They then have to just take one of two games in Arizona coming back home to go up 3-1 in the World Series, where then they would have to just win one of the final three games. in order to win the whole damn thing.
Starting point is 00:54:59 That one's going to hurt us forever. That one's going to stick with me for the rest of my life. I know for a fact, Kevin. And yeah, I know that if Corey Seeger did not hit that home run, I feel pretty comfortable in saying that Diamondbacks are two-time World Series champions. And we are talking about a completely different franchise right now. In particular, the toxicity around this franchise for having disappointing seasons the last two years is wildly different, right?
Starting point is 00:55:26 Because if you win the World Series, much more grace is being given to this team. People are not as angry. People don't have as much, like I would say, expectations of needing to make the playoffs because I think that that made us feel like, hey, you know, we are contenders, but we haven't gotten the job done.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Whereas if you do get the job done, you're probably just way more positive, way more happy, go lucky in terms of missing the playoffs by a game last year. It doesn't hurt as bad. Everything changes if the Diamondbacks win that World Series and it all starts with Corey Seeger hitting that no doubt home run in game one. That's our top 10 what ifs in Arizona Dynambacks history,
Starting point is 00:56:01 just rounding out this top five here, of course. I started it off with what if the Arizona Diamondbacks were moved from the NOS to the AL West after the 2001 season, thus putting them in an easier division with the Angels, mariners, and athletics instead of the N-Hell West that we are a part of now where we have to deal with those Godforsaken Dodgers. Number four, what if Brandon Webb never had career-ending injury in that 2009 season? Would we be talking about a completely different franchise outlook right now? What else could we have won?
Starting point is 00:56:36 What would Brandon Webb be thought of all time in the history books? What if the infield wasn't in in 2001 World Series game seven where Louise Gonzalez blooped it over Derek Jeter's head? As I said, I know that that situation isn't really a one where the Yankees would be playing back because of course, you know, they're going to be trying to stop that run from coming in at home. But Luis Gonzalez did not make good contact on that baseball, but it will always be remembered as the hit that won the Diamondbacks of the World Series. Number three or number two, I should say, what if Randy Johnson signed with a team that
Starting point is 00:57:07 wasn't the Diamondbacks in the 1999 off season? Could he have been a Los Angeles Dodger? The grossest situation I think I could ever think of in my life. And number one, what if Corey Seeger didn't hit that home run and game? one of the 2000-23 World Series. What do you think we missed? What are our the biggest what-ifs in Arizona Dynamvax history? Drop it in the comments below.
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Starting point is 00:59:08 to put on here, but I guess higher ups told me I wasn't allowed to. What if Shoea O'Honni was rightfully put in prison at post his allegations of gambling? Could change everything. Really, really could. That would have been my number one, but you guys let us know what What Ifs we missed here on the PHNX D-BAC show. Follow me at Damon Dogg at C-WG on the end of that. Follow our show at PHNX underscore D-Backs and follow my guy, Kevin, at Kev-O-P-O-P-O-S-T-S. Thank you so much for rocking with us today. The greatest what-ifs, the biggest what-ifs in Arizona Diamondbacks history.
Starting point is 00:59:39 There's your top 10. We'll catch you next time on the D-BHNX D-BAC show. But remember, kids, baseball is fun, but it's so much more fun when you stop hitting our players on the hands, even in the world freaking series or I'm sorry, even in the All-Star game.

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