PHNX Arizona Diamondbacks Podcast - Who will the Arizona Diamondbacks select at No. 12 in 2023 MLB Draft?

Episode Date: July 5, 2023

The Arizona Diamondbacks have done some amazing work at finding diamonds in the rough through the MLB Draft in this franchise’s short history. Can Mike Hazen and co. do it again with the 12th pick in this year’s draft? We also recap the slugfest in game one between the D-backs and the New York Mets and more!SUBSCRIBE to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/phnx_youtubeALL THINGS PHNX: http://linktr.ee/phnxsports PHNX Events: Get your tickets to D-backs Takeovers, Knockout Nights & Suns Watch Parties at BetMGM, and MORE here: https://www.eventbrite.com/o/phnx-56002330273 Go to https://birddogs.com/PHNX or enter promo code PHNX for a free Yeti style tumbler with your order.Go to https://saturdayneon.com and use code PHNX for 10% off your order today. Free shipping for orders over $200!Gametime: Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code PHNX for $20 off your first purchase.Pins & Aces: Check out https://pinsandaces.com and use code PHNX to receive 15% off your first order and get free shipping.Circle K: Text PHNX to 31310 to join the Circle K SMS subscriber club and get BOGO 32 oz Polar Pops! Head to https://www.circlek.com/store-locator to find Circle Ks near you!OGeez!: Learn more about OGeez! at https://ogeezbrands.com//. Must be 21 years or older to purchase.Four Peaks: Follow them on social @fourpeaksbrew & @fourpeakspub! Must be 21+. Enjoy responsibly. When you shop through links in the description, we may earn affiliate commissions. Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

of the city of Phoenix is back. Welcome in to another edition of the PHNX D-Backs podcast right here on PHNX. My name is Sheriff Montiag of course, like I said, known as your mayor of P.A. Not PHNX, of Phoenix, of Phoenix. And just to address rumors,

no, I've never met that woman before in my life. And no, I did not pay her 200 D-Bucks to do that. So welcome in. Of course, I'm joined by Mr. Electric, Shonda Paz, and your vice mayor of Phoenix. Nick's, Thunderstick, Jesse Friedman.

I'm amazed you could make time for us today, Derek. Don't you have city council meetings? You have roads to fix, right? Everybody's tweeting me to fix their roads. Like, as if that, like, it's not the mayor's job to single-handedly do that. Contact the Department of City, you know, works and whatnot. I don't know what they're called. Get hold of them.

Leave me alone. You have no idea what the name. I don't know. I thought I wore a sash and waved, but apparently there's a lot more paperwork involved with this position. Just got done kind of reviewing the numbers and getting over the loss. The Arizona Diamondbacks lose to the New York Mets who honestly have been playing better baseball lately, but neither pitcher was very good in this game.

You would definitely say neither Zach Davies nor Max Scher were unhittable in this one because this was a slug fest between the Diamondbacks and the Mets. And the two starting pitchers were kind of the focal point of the offense. Yeah, I mean, Max Scher was kind of cruising, right? there was the first inning homer to Corbyn Carroll, which was incredible, once again, Corbyn Carroll and his ridiculous opposite field power.

It was something we've seen before where he just takes a change up that was like two or three inches off the outside part of the plate and just goes the other way. Casually hit it for opposite. Casually goes opposite. Oh, casually good. He is a baseball. Yeah,

it is, right? Well, and I mean, of course, like the power, though, like when we're talking about this home run, his power is just based in hitting the ball really well.

Like it doesn't even look like he's really smashing it. He just he just hits it. He just hits it in the sweet spot of the bat and somehow is almost at 20 home runs before the All Star break. I don't think any of us thought that he was going to get much more than 20 home runs in the entire season. And here we all are at the All Star break and he's at 18. Yeah, I mean, he keeps succeeding expectations. I mean, we talked about it a bunch like the contract and everything. But like it is just day by day becoming more and more of a value of a.

of a steal for the devax. He is just, it's just casual, let's say, it's just so casual. Like, he's just, I don't know, it just seems like he doesn't put

any effort into being great. And it's really fun. I saw a graphic today that was like asking about, I know we're going to talk about the draft later, but the best, like, first over, first,

the first two picks of MLB drafts and like multiple of them. I think two different ones had players that were selected by the debacks, who obviously don't play for the debacks. Yeah. And it's just, it was sitting there being like,

damn, to feel like like there's a do you guys have their guy for the foreseeable future oh yeah oh yeah and it's it's interesting you bring up his contract because one thing i've pondered is like is is uh corbin carroll living up to his contract like no i mean like is that's why he's playing so well or is it you know like it would he be playing even better if that contract was still out there and he's still playing for it like i don't know but i mean he seems like the kind of guy that wants to do right by those that did right by him. So it almost feels like he's playing so well

because he wants to make sure that the diamondbacks do feel like they got a value. And as Jesse and I have talked about quite a bit, Jesse, it feels strongly like he is playing really hard for that rookie of the year so that the diamondbacks get that draft pick that they get in case he does win that award. Yeah. I mean, what's crazy is that you get that draft pick

not only if you win rookie of the year, but if you finish top three in MVP voting. And that part of it has also very much coming. He could, Well, we didn't think that was even an option, so we didn't even bring that up, right? Like, we touched on that, but we were like, ha, ha, ha, yeah, right, Corby Carroll, top three and MVP voting. I don't know if we even did touch on that.

Yeah, right. I mean, for as great as you figured Corbyn Carroll could be, you didn't necessarily think he'd be top three in MVP voting in his first year in the league. I don't really think that the contract has had much to do with this. If anything, I think Corbin's done a good job not thinking too much about that and just going out there and being himself. $11 million is a lot of money, but. I believe Corbyn's making like one million this year.

So in some ways, he's actually not making all that much money at all. At this point in his career, that contract was more about the money that's to come later in his career. Correct. So, but yeah, I mean, it's incredible just the way that he continues to show up and it looks like the shoulder is okay. And that's the biggest takeaway here more than anything else for me. But going back to what we were discussing earlier, Max Scherzer, like you said, was cruising kind of after that home run. but then all of a sudden the diamond back started being able to get some get some more dingers off of him and sherser's line doesn't look great. Zach Davies line also did not look great, but neither starting pitcher gave them really the win or the loss here.

It was basically a push as far as the performance of two starting pitchers. So as much as we want to get down on Zach Davies for having another poor outing, he did perform at the same level basically that Max Scher did. Five and two thirds innings pitch, five hits. Scherzer also had five hits, four earned runs for both pitchers, two walks by both guys. Davies gave up two home runs. Scher gave up three. Scherzer with nine strikeouts, Davies with six. So, I mean, again, not a great outing by any stretch of the imagination from either starting pitcher.

But Zach Davies was really not the reason they lost this game. It was the Mets bullpen kind of coming in and holding the diamond backs and making things exciting there at the end of the game. And the D-Backs bullpen, of course, giving up four earn runs and three in a third inning. the work. Yeah, I mean, I think Zach Davies outperforming Max Scher, like, that's a win for the debats in some ways. But yeah, at the end of the day, as you said, the bullpen for the debacks was just not as good as the bullpen for the Mets. And that's something that's going to happen. The debacks bullpen has been actually pretty good in recent days, you know, those couple of Scott McGuff eventful games, notwithstanding. Outside of that, the bullpen has been pretty good. And it's really

been more of a contributor to the Diamondbacks winning games than losing recently. So some bad umpire calls, by the way. One so bad during Austin Adams, uh, you know, uh, relief appearance that it made my wife leave the room. She just got up and walked out and refused to watch anymore. The down right. Well, oh, actually, maybe it wasn't down right. They were talking about this in the broadcast.

The, the Jake McCarthy strike or like not being alert to the pitcher violation. Yeah. He was clearly alert to the pitcher, but he was kind of, he had his foot on the line of the box. like, which I thought was still legal. But I thought too. And that's what they thought. I was watching the, um,

the Angels broadcast yesterday. And that was one of the things that they, they thought it was all legal too. I feel like I was just kind of suck this year. Conspiracy theory. I think the, I think umps know damn well that the, that the,

the union will not let them make any less when the robot arms come. So they're just sucking so the robot ums can come. And they can make as much money while doing half the work. Crazy direction for conspiracy. I think the, I think the, I'm not. I like it.

Because it seems like they suck this year. It seems like every game we talk about them struggling with it, just not being that great. Yeah. And in past years, everyone's always so happy with the umpires. But it feels like, and I get that I'm probably watching a little more intently. But it feels like every single game at this point. Well, here's what I did have this theory early on in the season. And I think that this might hold some water is that the umps have too much to do.

The old play umpire has too much to pay attention to. So he doesn't just have the strike zone any longer. he has these clocks and these timers and these different things. And like he's not supposed to pay attention to the actual clock on the wall. But there's no way you're not. There's no way you're not seeing the giant orange numbers tick down. But, you know, again, these are just things that are distracting him from his job as home plate umpire is making those calls. So I don't know.

There could be some validity to now you just have too much on the umpire's plate. But I will say I still love the pitch clock. And I think that we're finally at a point where nobody is talking about the pitch clock. any longer. Well, except Zach Davies after the game. Did you see that clip, Derek? I did see that clip. Zach Davies after the game.

One of the first things that he said in his conversation with the media after the game was he talked about how the pitch clock doesn't give you the amount of time that you're used to having to sequence pitches to think through like, all right, what's the best pitch to go to in this particular situation? Sure. And, you know, the Mets wound up scoring a couple of runs on a, well, not just a couple of runs. They wound up scoring a number of runs on home runs.

Four altogether. There was the three-run homer from Starling Marte. There was a solo shot from Brandon Nimmo. And in both of those occasions, Zach Davies talked about how the pitch that he chose to throw just didn't make sense. And he wasn't using the pitch clock as an excuse. I don't want to make it sound like that necessarily.

But he did talk about how the pitch clock presents a challenge and you have to think faster. You have to figure out what that pitch is sooner than you would have otherwise. I think Starling Marte and that at bat in particular, the change up there didn't seem like the pitch that made the most sense. Or if you are going to throw that change up, if you're going to double up on it like he did, you got to get it down lower in the zone in a one-two count than he was able to. He said that he would have rather gone with something hard and maybe changed eye levels with Starling Marteata to switch things up there. It's interesting to bring that up because that's the same type of thing that Tori Lobolo said was going wrong with Brandon Fott. he said that it wasn't that he wasn't able to throw his pitches.

He just couldn't figure out what was the best. He was like he was, I think Tori said he was reaching into a random bag and pulling tools out instead of sequencing those pitches in a way that made sense that could cause that swing and miss and cause strikeouts or at least cause poor contact. So, I mean, again, that could be a big reason why Brandon Fott continues to struggle. He's used to the pitch clock. It's not to say he's not, but maybe the combination of nerves and that pitch clock not giving you much time is what's causing him to have issues as far as that sequencing is concerned.

Yeah. There was a really interesting kind of ninth inning situation where the Diamondbacks did bring the tying run to the plate or it would have been maybe the winning run at that point. After with bases loaded in two outs, they they walk Christian Walker, they walk in a run and the bases are still loaded. And there was a wild pitch that nobody moved on that it felt like a big blunder to me. I mean, I might be making a bigger deal out of it than it that needs. need to be just because the final out then goes to second base, which there wouldn't have been

someone running to second base. It would have been a little bit more difficult of a play to get them over at first. There was kind of a cascading effect. But would you guys have sent them there in that wild pitch situation considering the direction of the ball and where everybody was gone? I want to know what Sean thinks. I mean, I think obviously hindsight's 2020. I think when I saw the ball bounce away, my first reaction was to throw my hands up because, of course, the advanced the runner. Go, go, go, go.

I think my gut reaction at that moment was okay, they had been. But I mean, no. I don't have a problem with them not doing it because the reality was is that one runs not winning you the game. Like I think, honestly, realistically, your best chance of you winning the game at that point is someone with getting a big hit, getting a big hit. Whether it's an extra base at a home run, something like that, you need base runners. You're not like the chances of you playing small ball all the way around to score to tie in the game. I don't think it's likely. So I don't have a problem with it.

I understand. I like Michael saying, if it's closer game, I think you've got to send him. but needing as many runs as they need in that situation, I don't have a problem with them, not sending a run over there. It didn't bounce that far away. I think it was Dominic Fletcher at third base. He was reasonably quick, but not especially fast on the base paths. Yeah, I think I would agree with what Sean and Michael are saying.

If this is a one-run game, then maybe you take that risk. But the reality is Lord of Scuriel grounded out anyway. Yeah, it wouldn't have mattered, no matter what. It would have maybe made it an 8-6 game instead of 8-5. But, I mean, could you imagine if the game ends because Dominic Fletcher, Tischer tries to get it's cut down coming home. Like that's a really stupid way to lose a baseball game. But Averaz was the one chasing the ball down.

So there wasn't anybody covering home plate. So the out would have had to be made it like third or something else besides going. Well, I mean, the pitcher would have come, right? And covered home plate in that spot. I don't remember exactly where he was at the time. But I think they probably could have made that play. No, I agree. I think the only thing there is is that pressing the action is kind of been the

Diamondbacks thing, right? Like that's how they've made stuff happen. And yeah, I mean, again, it's, I agree with everything you guys are saying. The only thought is is that then the Mets start to get more nervous. And then you're just, again, you're creating that chaos. You're applying that pressure. You have these speedy guys on the base path. And the Mets just, you know, then defensive makes mistakes continue to happen.

Pitcher makes mistakes. You never know what happens when you start to get those runs in and start to continue to dwindle that lead down and make it a closer game. So Alvarez picks up the ball. He throws it over David Robertson's head and Fletcher scores. And then next guy comes around third and he scores. Yeah. And then Robertson chases it down.

He gets the ball. He throws it back to Alvarez covering home, throws it over his head. And then that guy scores. And then it was like a genius decision. I will say it a hundred times, Jesse. I will say that like when you consider who was on the mouth, Like, Robertson's been pretty good this year. Yeah.

You might look at it a little differently, but like you got to try and get runs when you can. And like you said, kind of create that chaos. Yeah, I make it uncomfortable. But like I said, I think ultimately hindsight is 2020. You can't risk it in that situation. Yeah, you're right. And I think the biggest thing there is there is like you guys said, you don't want to make the final out. When you sit there wonder what could happen, especially considering Louris Gouriel just hit a grand slam a few days ago that ended up being the

difference makers. That's true. But our difference maker in this game, of course, is none other than Corbyn Carell, two for four in this game with that home run and two RBI. Corbyn Carroll appears on this graphic quite a bit, you guys, and that's not a terrible thing. No,

he's really good at baseball, man. I don't know how many times we're going to keep saying it is really good at the sport. It is just, it is, like it's, I don't know. Sometimes when things don't make sense, I just get angry. Like, that's my natural reaction and every time he does something i just kind of get pissed because i'm just like how is this

like how are you naturally this good at this like difficult to so many people it's just like games will just be happening and all of a sudden it's like oh man he's hit that to left field and it's okay i guess the debacks have one more run than they had 30 seconds ago because this guy is just really casually good at the sport um he's just good man how many times how many times does he almost beat out a ground out that would have been a ground out for any other yeah any other matter but he somehow makes it a foot race between him and the pitcher you know that's the thing it's just like he's he did so many different like he's

he's gonna hit home run and the next at bat is gonna get an infield single and it's like both things are really frustrating it for the other team he just beats you in every way Gabriel says he was safe at first I don't know why it wasn't challenged I don't know about that I didn't think he was I didn't think he was safe at the moment it looked like it on

the replay I noticed that but it was like a weird angle on the replay where it looked like his foot touched the base but I'm pretty sure it didn't yeah because it seemed like they got there in time Gabriel also said we might need to establish the Devin Booker rule for Carroll. If he doesn't hit a home run, he can't be King's.

That's fair. Yeah. So I don't know if the sons, they stopped allowing Devin Booker on unless he scored like 25 points or something like that. I don't know 30. 30. 30. Yeah. So unless he scored 30, he wasn't allowed.

Baseball's just different though, right? Like, because Devin Booker averages like almost 30 points a game. Yeah. Right. Corbyn Carroll doesn't average to go like two for five with a home run. Right. That's impossible. That's fair.

You'd be hitting 400 with like a 1,000 slugging percent. We will make him our king snake when I'm. we want to make it our king's stake and that's the way it works around here. If him and Heraldo Pardomo had the exact same stats in a game, then I think we probably give it to Hara Lowe. Sure. Sure. But we want to spread the level around.

Speaking of weird things that you don't understand. Here's a weird thing I don't understand. Why are the Diamondbacks not good at home when there's a lot of people there, Jesse? Fold under the pressure, I guess. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes you don't have that clutch factor all the way up to it 99. But yeah, the D-back seemed to struggle at home when Chase Field is filled to the brim.

So far, I think we have a tweet or we have a video for Tori answering it. But so far they are 0 and 5 in their most attended games at Chase Field this season, which honestly isn't that surprising because I imagine part of that is playing a very good team that has a fan base that steps out. But I also didn't really see a lot of raised fans there during that series. But there were a lot of fans in attendance for that one during the middle of the week. I don't know if that's one of the top five attended games, but Jesse might know more than me. Yeah, I don't think so. But the DVACs had.

Usually their weekend games with a bobbleheaded ballpark. Yeah, I don't think any of the raised games got over like the mid-20s maybe. But there were, I mean, there were over 41,000. I think it was 41,670 at the ballpark yesterday, which was interesting. I mean, I don't know if the D-BACs have ever had an afternoon game like that. Last year, the game was at like 340 on July 4th, which was a little weird. but yesterday it was just a normal afternoon 1.10 p.m. start and yeah there were over 41,000 people in attendance and unfortunately for the debacks yeah every time they've had I think it's more than 32,000 in attendance which just happened five times this year and they've lost all five of those games. They talk about a decent amount on coyotes with like why guys come here and are successful because of just the lack of pressure and I think yeah I don't know I'm obviously just hypothesizing but like yeah.

I mean, these guys are not used to playing in front of massive crowds. They're used to be in a relatively low pressure environment when they play for the Arizona downbacks. And that's obviously changing now. Like they're starting to be more and more pressure on them. People are starting to pay more attention to them. And I'm not saying by any means they're going to suck as they get more popular. But I definitely think it's going to be a little bit of adjustments. They're not used to chase field being loud.

And if it is loud, they're usually cheering against you. I mean, let's say there's a common factor here, right? they've also, you know, they've not passed a lot of the tests we've talked about when they play some of these successful teams this season and the Phillies and the Braves, some other teams, including those rays. They also, you know, kind of have this thing as a team where we see them kind of all, like nobody shows up offensively. And, you know, part of that is, again, that pressing too much, trying to be the guy to get that key hit. And that's all pressure, right? That's the pressure putting on. That's the other side of being a young team is that they don't have like a lot of experience playing and highly like important baseball.

At least obviously in major league baseball. So I definitely think having a bunch of people root for you is definitely an adjustment that a lot of the young guys will have to make. And it's probably, I mean, part of the reason why you get a guy like Evan Lungoria because he's been in those. I mean, obviously he's not. I mean, he played for the race for a long time. He knows what it's like to have 40,000 fans. He kind of does know what it's like to play usually with like no pressure or no one paying attention to you unless the stakes are incredibly high. I mean, he did play in San Francisco.

Oh, yeah. The Giants. Yeah. This is with the giants. But I mean, I do think that in a way that the, the raise is a little more comparable because they were not, that's a lot of guys who were not used to people really paying attention to what they were doing. Yeah. And then they're not. And then all of a sudden, not that they were necessarily selling out Tropicana even when they were good.

Sure. Sure. But I think it's definitely an interesting factor. Corey doesn't seem too concerned about it. Here's what he had to say about their lack of performance in these big, widely attended games. But do you see anything to that? Not really. We hear them.

We feel their support. I know the guys get real excited. Maybe they're overlaunching with their excitement. And we've got to find that sweet spot. No, I don't see any connection because there is such an energy to the stadium. And I've always felt that when it's as full as it is as it was today, that the noise and the excitement and the vibe is pretty special. So I don't think there's any connection to it.

I think as the season progresses and they continue to have these games that have a big attendance, they're going to get more and more used to it. That's the idea, right? Especially as they get on a roll, hopefully in the second half of the season. But it's something they have to get used to. It's only going to get worse as we move closer to the playoffs. And if you do make the playoffs, those are going to be sell-out games.

So these are all things that these are environments that the Diamondbacks need to get used to playing in. Yeah, I'm inclined to agree with Tori that there's probably nothing to this. The one thing that I will say could be problematic going back to that Jake McCarthy, Geraldo Perdomo miscommunication on that fly ball from a few weeks ago.

That was because, at least according to Toro, they just couldn't hear each other. Although there was a lot more to that, which we discussed at the time. But yeah, like that's something you have to adjust to. I mean, that's an actual tangible effect of having a lot of people in the stands that the debacks are absolutely going to have to figure out if they're playing playoff games. But yeah, I mean, it's only it's only five games. The debacks haven't, I haven't gone back and looked at it game by game, but they haven't tended to have their best starters in these games.

It seemed like I know Zach Davies started the Father's Day game that was the 12 to 3 loss to the Cleveland Guardians. So that's obviously a big factor here too is who is on the mound. And it kind of seems like they've just had disproportionately not their best starters on the mound in these games. I took the money line New York Mets in the game against the Diamondbacks. And I did that based on Zach Davies pitching against Max Scherzer. So funny that that really didn't factor in to actually the game. But it still won me some money. How did you do?

Did you make any July 4th bets? Well, I got I did make one July 4th bet and I got screwed. because I bet on Joey Chestnut over 72, 3 and a half hot dogs, and everything with the, you know, the delay and the cancellation that wasn't canceled. Well, they delayed it. Reports came out that it was canceled. Shane said that they never actually canceled it, that those were just faulty reports. They eventually played it later on, or they, I played it, I guess, had the competition later on.

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We got a lot of fun stuff going on this weekend. Of course, it's MLB All-Star, the start of MLB All-Star weekend. We're shipping off in a shipping container like Arfield used to send Nirmal to, you know, Abu Dhabi. I'm putting him in a small box and sending him across the country to his home in Seattle where he was once from and used to do this show from. And not only will he be there for all the All-Star festivities, but he will be there for the MLB draft.

So make sure to join us this Sunday because we're going to be there. We will be doing a special live MLB draft show. Me and this guy will be holding it down here in Phoenix. Jesse will be providing us updates from Seattle. But the MLB first player draft starts soon, and the Diamondbacks have four picks in the first 100. Not as exciting as last year having the second overall pick. Right.

But the Diamondbacks have been pretty good at finding some pretty damn good players around that middle part of the draft picks. So not too shabby. They have number 12th pick overall in the first round, the 48th pick in the second round. They have a competitive balance round B pick, which is considered the 64th overall pick. And then they have a round three pick for the 80th overall pick. So a lot of opportunity for the Diamondbacks to once again improve their farms. There's no mystery unknown Russians that they're going to surprise everybody by a draft.

I can't guarantee that. I cannot guarantee that because you never know. Mike Hazen has scouts everywhere. And they very well could draft four Russians. in this draft. It's gonna be the cold war up in here. I can't wait to see his reaction what it happens. He's gonna lose his mind. I, ooh.

Yeah. Yes, no. I don't have a problem with Russian people. I just, I just don't want another Russian. That's good. I don't want another Russian. I'm just really,

I'm just really. I'm really thankful that I don't have to pronounce any Russian names that they do in hockey. How is a lot easier than Shemachev. Yeah. Yes. Yes. And speaking,

speaking of, that's the short. stop that a lot of people have gone to the Arizona Diamondbacks, is that right? That is correct. Yeah. So if you look at the, if you look at the four, I mean, I guess there's a whole bunch of mock drafts out there, but three of the four major mock drafts that you'll find out there, their most recent iterations, have the Diamondbacks taking shortstop Colin Howk out of Parkview High School in Georgia. It's the same high school that Matt Olson, one all-star first baseman of the Atlanta Braves went to.

So yeah, Colin Hauke is an exciting young player. And apparently the Diamondbacks have done a lot of checking on him. This isn't just these mock drafts are there, you know, there is a lot of just kind of suspecting what's going on. People don't necessarily know for sure. But there is some reporting involved in this as well. And it does seem like, you know, from what Keith Law and Jim Callis and some others have written that the Diamondbacks have done a lot of checking.

in on Colin Hauk this high school shortstop and there's a lot of interest there. He's six foot two hundred and ninety pounds. Baseball America has all of Colin Hauke's tools at 55. Let's go on the 20 to 80 scale. So he's basically just, he has, he has, he does, we need a tools guy. You could, yes, you could make a case that he has all the tools. Yeah, he's basically just doesn't really have any real holes in his game. Has it a good chance to stay at shortstop, but if he did move to third base, I think there's a good chance that his bat would play there as well. Also pitches, I believe.

So we might have a new Josh Rojas. I mean, I don't think like he's a quarterback in high school. I don't know if that necessarily like, oh, surely he could pitch. Well, I thought on his perfect game thing.

It said that he pitched a little bit. I thought it relisted him as a relief pitcher. That could be possible. Yeah, I think he did. He probably, yeah, that wouldn't surprise.

To be fair, He was a quarterback. Everyone pitches. It's barely a step up from Little League where they try to have you play every position. I'm just saying what you did at. I feel like the bare minimum qualification for position player pitching. Like if you pitch at some point in high school, then maybe you could be decent as a position player pitching. Yeah.

No, I mean, and honestly, when you have a slash line of 487, 589, 981, how are you not attractive to everybody looking at you? But again, that's high school. Right. The one thing that always amuses me about baseball players is they've typically been the best person. they've like on their team for for a while you know until they start getting to that major league or at least the minor league level but yeah especially when you're a two sport athlete like alec thomas was a two sport athlete this kid probably just runs his high school yeah like he's probably the most probably is a big deal where he's from which is one thing i love about baseball

is that like it doesn't matter who you are you're going to be living in hillsborough or the sale yeah that's you get humbled real fast you might get a nice science The signing bonus, but you're going to live in a small town in Georgia for a few months. You have fun to spending that signing bonus on, like, I mean, and honestly, it's going to be a problem with me. Because if I got spent sent in somewhere in the middle of nowhere in the south and all I had was money and time, I get fat. Like, I would just eat Southern cooking. And I know they're pro athletes is slightly different. I would eat all the time.

But it's, I mean, it's not really because, again, at a minor league level, you are responsible for yourself much more than you are at a major league level. They'll cook for you at a major league level. Yeah, there's not a stopping you from going to get one. Oh, man. Just all the fried chicken all the time. I will say this about the diamondbacks do have some players listed that are high school students. They have some also college players. Do you think that there would be a preference going one way or another considering their timeline or whatever?

Do you don't think that that's a big deal for this organization at this point? Well, I recently read Moneyball, so I am out on high school prospects. There you go. Yes. That's the big takeaway from money involved. Absolutely. I don't think the debacks necessarily, at least from what I've heard,

I don't think they're necessarily leaning one way or another. I think they're just going to select the best overall asset that they could find. They have gone high school the last couple of years with Drew Jones and Jordan Lawler. But then, you know, is Bryce Jarvis back in 2020 is their first round pick. He was a college guy. So they've definitely favored high school, you know, over the last five or six years.

but I wouldn't necessarily rule out a college guy either. They do have a right-handed pitcher from Tennessee that they've been looking at. Chase Dallander, who could also be their selection there at 16. That's what, yeah, ESPN's Kylie McDaniel in his latest mock draft. He is Dahlinder going to the Diamondbacks at number 12. It's interesting. Dallender, pretty big name coming into 2023, entered the year as probably the clear-cut best arm available. in this draft.

So, you know, I mean, would be potentially a really big get for the Diamondbacks. What's a little weird is that if you look at his numbers from this season, he just wasn't nearly as good as people expected him to be at Tennessee. He was 7 and 6 with a 475 ERA, a 127 whip, 12.1Ks per 9, 3 walks per 9. But if you compare those numbers with his prior season, he had a 2.39 ERA, a 0.8 whip, and even better strikeout and walk ratios the year prior. So a little bit of it up and down season for him. He had a chance to go, you know, top three, top five in this year's draft.

I don't think that's going to happen at this point. But I also am not necessarily sure that he's going to fall all the way to the Diamondbacks. 95 to 97 with his four-seem fastball. He's got good upward ride. Touches 99. Touches 99 miles an hour. And yeah, as far as I know, the stuff didn't necessarily drop off, he just wasn't really commanding it as well this season.

So yeah, definitely a viable option for them. It feels like the Diamondbacks have enough needs. And obviously it's a farm system situation that they are going to go with the best available player. And a lot of the other young players they're linked to, it's all a matter if they fall to the Diamondbacks at 12, if they happen to be there, right?

The Diamondbacks have gotten some steals. And let's be honest, the guy we've talked about all show long, Corbyn Carroll. Corbyn Carroll was selected by the Arizona Diamondbacks number 16th overall in the 2019 draft. Where was Payvon Smith drafted? Payvon Smith was drafted number seven.

That's what I thought. In the 2017 draft. Yep. They also got Matt McLean in the 2018 draft at number 26. So the Diamondbacks have done an outstanding job at finding good players. Like when you look through their list going back to 2015, a lot of their picks ended up being very quality baseball players at a major league level. But I might I might push back on that.

Let's go. Why? I mean, Corby and Carroll, yes. Dansby Swanson? Danzby Swanson, sure. Matt McLean? I mean, Danzby Swanson was first overall. So that's kind of a different class of first round pick.

Okay. Because it's literally the first pick in the draft. But he wasn't a bus, though. No, he definitely wasn't a bus. That's fair. But I mean, like, Anthony Greer. Well, he was number 39. Number 39.

I mean, that's fair. You're not expecting him. Pavin Smith, probably. at number seven overall. That was a pretty weak draft though. If you look around at other guys, McKenzie Gore was, I think,

taken third overall in that draft. He's been pretty good, but a lot of other guys from that draft have kind of flopped. I don't know. It's just a little too early for me to say that at this point. Like Blake Walston hasn't really proven much.

He's had kind of an up and down year at Reno this year for the VATs. There's guys that aren't proven yet. Bryce Jarvis doesn't really look like that much of a prospect at this point. That's why I brought up Hayman Smith. It's like it's a, crap shoot. Like you get you got a guy

like paving it at 7 it depends on and then you get a guy who was in a obviously a complete different tier of professional baseball player and Corbyn way later. I mean in the first round still obviously but it's a significant number of picks later than that like it's you don't there is no way to guarantee that this kid is going

to be good wherever they slag. No very true very true right very true but the diamondbacks have done a good job in those middle picks of finding some talent including they've never picked 12th overall but they did have an 11th pick at one point overall in 2006. It went all right. It went all right.

It was Mac Scherzer. Speaking of Mac Scherzer. I don't know. Last time I watched him pitch he wasn't that good. Yeah, no, I was there. I saw it. Yeah. I will say,

I go back to the Zach Davies Scher thing, it's fun to compare those two in a vacuum, but one of them is making a lot more money than the other. It's a lot easier to swallow one of those guys not pitching well than the other. But Jesse, who else do they have here that the Diamondbacks could end up snagging with that 12th position that you think that they could most more likely go with? I know they've been attached to a lot of names.

Yeah, I mean, it is really hard to say. It's honestly kind of rare, I think, to have, like, a lot of the mock drafts having the Diamondbacks at one player at this point. But even so, there's no guarantees they're going to take Colin Hock, a few other names that have popped up. Kyle Teal, a catcher. I don't think he will fall to number 12, but we've seen a number of catchers go pretty high up in the draft in recent years.

And generally, the results there have been pretty solid. I don't know if Teal is necessarily the next Adley Ruchman or Jonah Haim who's come on strong this year with the Rangers. But, you know, a catcher has a really good arm and, you know, a good chance to stick behind the plate and some intriguing offensive skills as well. On the pitching side, Rhett Louder is a name that I think the Diamondbacks would probably love to fall to them at number 12. I don't really anticipate that happening. He out of Wake Forest, college guy right-hander, 92 to 95. with his fastball. He is probably the best change-up in the class

or one of the best change-ups in the class. So I don't think he'll be available to the diamond backs, but if we're through the first 11 picks and he's still there, that wouldn't surprise me. Tommy Troy, shortstop out of Stanford, just kind of a good all-around hitter at the plate, not necessarily a ton of power there, but has a chance to maybe stick a shortstop,

although I think people are leaning towards second base for him, mostly due to his arm. Matt Shaw is another name out of Maryland, Jacob Wilson, a short stop out of Grand Canyon University. Yeah, I mean, just local guy. Yeah, why not? Yeah, Jacob Wilson.

A son of a big leader too. I always love, uh, we know that I'm best like taking those guys. Yeah. But, uh, again, it's the,

it's, it's, it's, it's the MLB draft, right? So like, the wildest part about the MLB draft is you never know when you're going to see these guys. You never know how soon.

or how long it's going to take. Corbyn Carroll at one point with his shoulder injury, everybody thought that that was going to cause Corbyn Carroll to take a long time to get back on track. And oddly enough, Corbyn has just, he flew through the minor league system. And here he is as a potential,

you know, favorite for the rookie of the year, potential MVP candidate, and he's 22 years old. So the draft for Major League Baseball can impact a team much sooner than you can expect sometimes for that to happen. Yeah, Even if you take a high school guy, I mean, usually when you take a high school guy, we're kind of expecting like, all right, don't get too excited. You're not going to see this guy for five years. But Corbyn Carroll sort of disprove that, right? With 2020 sort of being taken away from him. And obviously. It was taken away from all of us, Jesse.

And it was taken away from all of us. That's there. And then the shoulder surgery that happened very quickly into his 2021 season. I mean, the man basically played the. the equivalent of like one full major league season between high school and being the player he is right now in the majors. So it is possible for these guys to rise pretty quickly. And even more so for college guys, that's something that you kind of expect. It hasn't really felt like that's been the case for the Diamondbacks a whole lot. A lot of their college prospects have taken a little bit longer to develop. But yeah, like a guy like Jacob Wilson from Grand Canyon, I mean, he has the kind of hit tool that is not majorly

ready, but maybe isn't really all that far from being major league ready. So it'll be interesting to see whether the Diamondbacks go high school or college at the end of the day. I think they go best available player that falls to them at this point. I mean, I think that's the sort of the default answer in general. Yeah, that we can break new to Diamondbacks will take the best, the player that they think is the best overall player at number 12. I feel like drafting for fit in the MLB draft is like the dumbest possible thing.

You don't know what your team is going to be like in five years. You have no idea. Drafting for fit makes no sense. And you have so like the chance of any prospect making it to the majors in the first place is so low. Yeah, the chance that they ever play for your team at all. Yeah. You're drafting like I think the best you could reasonably hope for is like a trade chip. Like that's the best you can reasonably hope for.

And if they end up being a, I mean, obviously at the top of the draft, it's a little different. But if they end up being a everyday player, like even first overall picks are not a guarantee. So if they end up being an everyday player on your professional roster at all, like, you have done more than you could probably reasonably expect from an MLB draft. So I mean, and arguably Corbynman Carroll out of those three guys that were all drafted the top 20, him, Jordan Lawler, Drew Jones. Corbyn Carroll might be the best player out of the three of those.

You might. You know, who knows, you know. Saying might is hilarious. Yeah, I know, right? Like, because I mean, obviously. We don't know, but it's like, how do you not already say he is going to be the best player out of those guys? A, A, he's still early in his career. But B, like the idea that these other two are not like, you can't rule out the idea that they're better than Corby and Carol quite yet.

I mean, we were having a conversation just a couple months ago about the guy that pulled the Drew Jones one of one card, right? And how like depending on whether Drew Jones makes the Hall of Fame, he should either like keep the card or just like take his money and run. Go for some absurd offer that is based on if he makes a hall of fame. We're already talking about kids getting drafted, making the Hall of Fame. But yeah, Corby and Carroll is going to make the Hall of Fame. Stamp it. Put a statue out from the Chase Field now. Build the plaque.

Get it ready because it's going to happen. They have a little bit of room next to Bay roofs. Yeah. But do it inside. I don't want it outside. I don't want to go stand outside. It's hot. You know how hot it is.

It's so hot here. I'm so burned from July 4th. I put on like 100 SPF and I'm still burned. I don't want to be outside at all. And thank God, Chase Field has a roof. And thanks God. even though it's an airplane hanger, the air conditioning works so well.

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the Mets and the rest of the series that's what we needed that's what we needed in there Kodai Sanga has been pretty good for for the Mets this season I know that the Mets took maybe a little bit of flack over over the off season people weren't really exactly sure how Sanga's game would translate into the majors But at this point, it's translated better than most of the MLB players they've signed. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Singh has been significantly better than Justin Verlander, which is a wild thing to say. But yeah, he has a bit of a control issue. He's over five walks per nine.

But outside of that, he's been one of the best pitchers in the National League. And then Carlos Carrasco finishes the series on Thursday for the Mets, a guy who was once a very, very good pitcher in his Cleveland Indians, now Guardian's days. And, and yeah, not exactly the same picture he once was with an ERA up toward, up towards six on the season. Now, obviously these guys have had their ups and downs this season, but both players for the Diamondbacks, Henry and Nelson, have actually been pretty damn good lately. In his last three starts, Ryan Nelson has a, I'm sorry, 2.33 ERA and an opponent batting average of 169. Tommy Henry, even better, in his last three starts, has an ERA of 1.96 with an opponent batting average of 250. So both of these guys have probably had their best stretch over their last three starts, which are pretty good. Wow, Gabriel says that his dad says that I look like Tom Holland.

All right. No, no. I can see it. I would take it to run with it. I don't sure. Gabriel's dad, you are, you are so off the market. there. It's the glasses. Yeah, I guess it's the glasses. We're going to hear about this all

week. My God. I mean, you guys thought I was going to have a big head for being the mayor of the city of Phoenix. It's like the 10th time. Yeah, I got, well, while we're doing this, I posted on Instagram over the weekend, which I very rarely do. And a count who I do not know just randomly commented it like, is that bad bunny? Question mark. So if he

if he can be top of all and I can be bad. What is happening? You people need, do you people need glasses out there? My God. You and the umpires. But, I think the Diamondbacks, I think our show as a commanding lead in the all city standings. I'm not sure. Do we have an update on that, Damon?

Yeah, we do. Damon sent this in the chat and Saul responded, God damn. This is just absurd. We are, we've distanced ourselves from the pack and we continue to lead all things, all city. Why can't this be the actual, like screw the rest of the league, make this to playoff. Yeah, this is our division now. Yeah, I agree. I agree.

Yeah. That is win a World Series office. We should have an exclusive all-city tournament where the one seed plays the four-seed and the Zivax get the Rockies in the first round. It works a lot better when all four teams suck and no one makes the playoffs. They can go, they can do their all tournaments. Now I guess we're holding everyone back by being actually good at baseball. I did want to address the fact that I was called the mayor of the city of Phoenix on a national broadcast.

We talked about this on Monday. I mean, I went. We talked through the entire. incident, but you weren't here. I'm glad you guys covered it, but did you guys figure out any, any closer on figuring out how this happened? Is it, am I to blame? Is it my fault?

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, maybe. I don't think it's King Diego's fault. I'll say that. I don't think she didn't even think that. You know what? I mean, honestly, if you're not favorable with your, you're with your constituents, this kind of thing is going to happen.

People are just going to want to see someone else take over. I think Mo earlier said I held a bloody coup and took over the Democratic process. That's unfair. I did not do any of those things. The people that do Derek's bidding did that. I've never met Heidi Watney in my entire life and I just want to make that clear. I do not know where the, like she got most of the story right. Except the city of mayor. My experience with Heidi Watney, I believe she's in MLB in the show.

She is an audio of the show. But the rendering they did of her is not very good in the video game. It's terrifying. It's pretty good. They owe her an apology. They do owe her an apology. Elizabeth, yeah, Mayor Kate should run for mayor of PH&X. No, no, absolutely not.

What are you afraid of? Because everybody wants to run against me now. I don't need her. Martial law. Martial law, anarchy. We did get a mailbag Monday question that was really more for you. We tried to take a stab at it. But at the end of the day, it was really directed toward you.

Brady Martin asked us on Monday, will Derek be seeking re-election next year? If so, what can we expect his campaign platform to look like? Oh, yeah, we couldn't really speak on your campaign. We couldn't really, yeah. Anti-wave. I'm going to ride on a banning the wave platform across all major sports. You're going to lose the family vote, though. Like, there's plenty of families.

I'm going to teach the kids about the rotator cuff and how much they can end themselves and viewing the wave. I respect you sticking to it because if you go to a D-BACs game, the fact of the wave happens is enough evidence that you are in the massive minority. in terms of being anti-wave. Yeah. No, I get it. I respect a politician with principles.

That's what I'm saying. That's 100%. That's why he's getting my vote. Yeah, I respect it. I run on an anti-wave, anti-James Outman platform, and it's specifically designed for our friend of Damon party. That's why I whittle it down until I'm really just trying to make one man happy. You want one vote, and it's damans.

Well, like I said, we're shipping Jesse off to Seattle in a box. Jesse, when do you leave? and what are your plans here for the world? I'm really enjoying that one. I mean, it depends on when the UPS guy comes over, I guess. I don't know. How to get you in before two? Because I think the pickup is at three.

Do we have like a red wall for you to call in front of like your old days in Seattle? You got to find like a red wall for you. You had like a red wall, didn't you that you did your show in front of it? I don't know. I did not have a red wall. Was it here? Yeah, I was here. Oh, I was here.

My parents. Yeah, my parents house. I knew that you, I was still crazy. I knew you had done shows in front of a red wall. all before. Great. Now we're talking about me living with my parents

when I came back Arizona. Great. Okay, well, I didn't know that that was a case that you could have just gone with it.

We were also there's no shame. I was doing my extra friends family for a year because I had nowhere to live here. I'm not going to shit on somebody who are living

with their actual family. Yeah, I will. I'll do that because I'm the adults around here. There will be, there to answer Emma's question, though, there will be like fragile.

Stickers on the end of yeah, absolutely. I'm going to nail a shut, but there will be fragile. Will you drill air holes in it or no? I mean, it's not

an airtight box. It's like slats. Yeah, there's slats. There will also be like the like the this side up era. Just to make sure that my head is going to be like, we're basically turning this into Madagascar. Oh my God. That's what Gabriel said.

You got to get into it. Yes. Yes. I said earlier, normal being sent to Abu Dhabi, but I think that's a much more modern reference. I will say, though, that I'm excited for your time in Seattle. I'm excited for you mostly to bring us all sorts of updates on Corbyn Carroll because I know you're going to. Oh, yeah.

I know you're going to stalk him while you're there. Yeah, I'm just going to be your primary. Out of the bushes. Yeah. So, Jesse, you're leaving on Friday, so you won't be here for Friday show. So we'll be holding it down. Jesse will be bringing us live updates Friday, Sunday, and next week during the All-Star game. So make sure not to miss us.

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