PHNX Arizona Diamondbacks Podcast - You need to calm down

Episode Date: February 3, 2022

On their 100th episode together, Jesse and Derek discuss the D-backs farm system ranking and how it has changed over the last year, a new MiLB initiative to honor the contributions of Black players in minor leagues and bring baseball to more communities, and why the Nationals needed to be the first team in baseball to open a sports book connected to their ballpark. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello and welcome to another edition of the PHNX D-Backs podcast right here on PHNX. My name is Derek Montia. Of course, I am your mayor of PHNX, and I am joined by my vice mayor, my co-host and friend, the one and only thunderstick Jesse Friedman. Derek, we are recording this on a hump day, which means it is a good day because as we record this, it is hump day. And it is hard to argue with that. More importantly, Jesse Friedman, this very episode. of this podcast is the 100th episode of the P-HNXDBax podcast that you and I have done together. Wow.

That's right, ladies and gentlemen, 100 episodes of Derek and Jesse in your life. Does it feel like you have spent 100 episodes with me yet, Jesse? Does it feel that way? Oh, it feels like I've spent a whole lot longer than that with you, Derek. You son of a bitch. Well, you're not wrong about that. Well, this podcast, all 100 episodes and beyond, is brought to you by the fine folks at the Draft King's Sportsbook app.

Go download the Draft King Sportsbook app right now just in time for Super Bowl 56. And new customers will get 56 to 1 odds on whatever team they choose to bet on, bet just $5 and get $280 in free bets if your team wins. Jesse, not much. to talk about on the lockout front. No meeting has happened since the last sad meeting on Tuesday. But in good news, baseball America currently has the Arizona Diamondbacks Farm System ranked as number 10th overall in baseball. So I know there has been some movement. The Dodgers are currently ranked eighth. And I believe at one time the Diamondbacks in recent history were ranked above the Dodgers.

So their farm system has kind of moved around a bit. But still much better as far as the other teams in the division. Dodgers are ranked eighth overall in baseball. D-backs are 10th. Giants are 17th. Podres are 21st. And the lowly Rockies are 24th. Shout out to Patrick Lyons.

Our apologies for the bleak outlook for that. team as far as that's concerned. But any surprises here that the Diamondbacks are once again second to the Los Angeles Dodgers in anything? Actually, yes, at least in this regard. I think Tenth is a little bit low for the Diamondbacks farm system. Just, I mean, you know, a lot of different places put out rankings on this pretty frequently. And Tent is about the lowest that I've seen the Diamondbacks in a number.

number of years. It feels like probably about three or four years at this point. So I think ever since Mike Hazen made those moves to kind of replenish the farm system combined with, you know, that, that, that one draft where they had like seven draft picks in one draft or however many they had. And unprecedented number of draft picks in one draft. Right. So yeah, you're right. Ever since then, they have been in the top 10. And now at this point, at least in like you said, this is just one ranking. and again, it's just a ranking. It doesn't really mean that's where they're at. It's just what baseball America perceives them to be at.

But I thought that was interesting. But not nearly as interesting as I found Tyler Motsick's idea for what the MLB player should be doing during the lockout. By the way, Tyler, that's Nutsack Motsick from his own Twitter account. he suggests that MLB players put on an all-star series of their own, live-stream it and play a five to seven game series, get professional cameras set up, in-game interviews,

and behind-the-scenes access, do large teams, something like 50 players with everyone having to play. Would fans tune in? He asks, and Jesse, I have to ask, is there any doubt in your mind at all that fans would tune in to this amazingly fantastic idea that would never see the light of day, I'm sure. Yeah, I don't know if I would count on it happening. But to answer your question, yeah, oh yeah.

I think this has all sorts of potential. I actually, so a few years ago now, some of you out there may have heard of him. I think he's on Twitter. He's at Sully Baseball. He hosts the MLB at large podcast over at the Lockdown Network. work. He's been a connection to mine for a number of years. And a few years ago, he came on my show and actually made a proposal where he thought that the MLB All-Star game should happen at the beginning of the season, which is a little bit odd at first, right? But there's a few reasons for it.

Number one, it actually allows us to not base All-Star selections off of half of a season, or in many cases, like two months of a season. That's when most of the votes are cast. We could... You're giving it to them based on the merit of last season, essentially. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah.

All right. So that way you have an entire season of play rather than just, oh, this guy was crazy hot for the first two months now. He's an all star, even though, you know, a couple months later, he's really not that good at all. The other reason, which I think is the more compelling one, is that baseball needs to start with a bang, you know? You would love to see the season start.

with just this big event. And opening day, you know, in our opinions, it should be a national holiday. I think in many people's opinions, it should be a national holiday. But I don't think there's anything quite like the All-Star game to just get things started. Like if we were on that level of entertainment from day one in baseball, I think it would be a really, a really compelling thing for baseball to put on. And in some ways, that's kind of what Tyler, Mattsec is is proposing so and and certainly if the players are behind it it's probably going to be

all the better than you know once major league baseball gets involved and then money becomes a factor and all these other things but yeah i mean if the players are behind it i would have a lot of faith and then pulling it off pretty well i definitely like the idea of the home run derby kicking off the season because that's fun maybe just maybe just the home run derby i don't i i have a feeling that a lot of players probably wouldn't be so on board with starting their season with the all-star game well i mean i feel like what you're trying to do here jesse is prevent jake lamb from ever becoming an all-star is what you're trying to do you're trying to this is like i have nothing against jake lamb no no you can say that but i feel like this is some

sort of retroactive rule you're trying to put like you know like when people don't like something that happened they want to change the laws sure that's what i feel like this is this is you going Jake Lamb becoming an all-star is not something that I have a problem with. Now, there are many, many all-stars from other teams that we could point to that, no, I genuinely don't. I mean, I think, like, sure, I acknowledge Jake Lamb, in retrospect, did not deserve to be an all-star when he was one. But, hey, I mean, as a supporter of this baseball team, I'm not against it.

Other teams, however, you know, the Dodgers certainly have benefited from that over and over and over again. So don't even get me started on that. Don't even get me started. Yeah, well, I like Tyler's idea. I feel like this needs to take place at like the sandlot or something like that. If we're going to have this kind of game, I think that the popularity from last season of doing it at the field of dreams field was incredible. You know, like I didn't think I would be moved that much by it.

Oh, it was powerful. It was like emotional. It really was. And not only that, but honestly, it was a. fantastic game. Like that only helps like grow the legend of it. But the big thing with me personally

was I have, I knew people that were there. And seeing people's pictures from it made it so real to me. You know, like even seeing it on ESPN still portrayed it in the same light as like it being in the movie. But man, to see like,

real human beings that were fans that bought tickets to it and went i had such uh jealousy and fomo and everything all going on at the same time of not being able to experience such a wonderful moment so uh i've suggested this but yeah let's do more movie locations i don't know i mean whatever whatever it takes to generate interest in this game but um the sandlot you know uh lot or just in general some sort of like pickup game style a lot for this type of game would be incredible you know a park even something something ridiculous like that i'm all for it um i just as much as these ideas are fun and they can throw them out there uh like we proceeded this with there's no way that any of these guys that are worth millions of dollars per year would jeopardize i think their careers to go play

in a kind of pickup game like this, no matter how much I think people are paying to watch it, right? And that's really, I don't think so. I don't think so. I mean, it's not to say it's because like baseball is baseball, right? So it's not to say there would be guys that wouldn't mind and they would come out and play.

But I have a hard time thinking that it's like going to be the top stars in the game. and I have a hard time even thinking maybe Tyler Motzig might do something like that. I don't know, right? It all depends because I know these guys at the end of the day are still athletes and they and they're baseball players. They love the game. They want to play it. And to be honest,

they're ready to play it whenever, you know, so I don't know. I guess I'm a little torn there. I just don't think that, uh, I think a lot of agents, if this started to become a real thing,

I think a lot of agents would get involved and stop their clients from, participating in this type of event, just due to the potential of injury and what that could do to derail your career or, you know, whatever. But I don't know, maybe it reverses the pressure and puts it on the owners because the owners already have money invested

in these guys as players. So do you guys want to see these guys playing pickup games at the local park, maybe getting injured? Probably not. So maybe you should get this lockout done sooner than later. From what we heard after Tuesday's meetings, the MLBPA is now, going into their emergency fund to give out money to the players because they're not being paid

and they're trying to make sure that when this season starts and they would normally get their regularly scheduled paychecks, I'm guessing, that they're not going to be getting those because of this lockout. And we're already in that phase where the union is starting to dip into its fun, it's rainy day fund, I guess you could call it for this exact type of of potential occurrence to happen. And that's kind of, when you talk about delays in this game and how long this lockout could last, that's a bit scary.

That's a bit telling as far as how long the union thinks that this situation is going to last. Well, I have it from a good source, Derek. I don't know if you follow MLB executive burner. They're at Hot Stove Intel on Twitter. But they just tweeted, they tweeted, we're close per sources. They're full of shit, Jesse. You know it.

But, but Derek, it's the MLB executive burner account. Well, I mean. We all know, we all know this is getting done by February 14. So it doesn't matter. That's the day it's going to be. Maybe, yeah, maybe that's what they're talking about. But no, I, yeah, I mean, I think it's a, I think it's a pretty fun idea. I think players might be a little bit more open to it.

personally, I could see players. I mean, it's one game, right? I mean, they're, they're out there practicing doing things all the time. I don't, I don't feel like there'd be too much of an injury risk. Um, but yeah, I mean, the logistics of actually making this happen and finding a way to do it without, um, like the sponsorship of major league baseball. If they really tried to do like their own thing, I feel like there's got to be some sort of legal ramifications of them like kind of breaking apart from the, like, there's no, way this happens but good on Tyler Matzak for giving us something to talk about here in early February during a lockout.

See, this reminds me like sometimes when I watch a reality show, Jesse, I root for like whatever person is going to bring the most chaos into the show for them to like stay in the game, right? And like in in this entire situation, I am 100% rooting for them to try this. because of the chaos that it would bring to this entire situation. But, you know, we laugh about it because we know it's not going to happen. We know that there's no chance of them actively being able to do this. I guarantee you, though, when Tyler Matzik tweeted this out,

I guarantee you there is at least one person that started trying to organize something because they thought they could be the one that makes this happen. I wouldn't be surprised if there's several people. people that actually in today's modern day and age of throwing events having it be a big like ordeal where you could sell it online as a streaming you know event or even go a little bit more old school and actually have like a pay-per-view style thing where people have to maybe buy in to watch it or whatever people would I mean people buy the most ridiculous boxing matches you can imagine people would totally buy this just for whatever

just to watch whatever nonsensical event that this ended up being. But it really comes down to MLB would never let it happen. That's really what it comes down to. No, probably not. Try all you want. Try all you want. But anyway, what you could do is you could go over to Drafking Sportsbook, put some money on the Super Bowl, win,

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See draft kings.com slash sportsbook for details. And yes, I said in this house, we say go bangles. Jesse, we brought it up on the live show yesterday, but baseball, a lot of bad, a lot of bad things happening. Not a lot of good coming out of it. But minor league baseball, still plugging along, still doing their thing. And giving us something positive to talk about in this new, initiative that they have called the nine, which is named for Jackie Robinson, the number Jackie Robinson wore during his brief stint in minor league baseball with the AAA Montreal

Royals in 1946. The nine is, it's a current, I guess you would say, a campaign, but it's focused on black community and developing efforts with new national programming, future special events in coordinated and centralized campaign. Just honoring the black community and their contributions to minor league baseball, major league baseball, everything like that. It's going to recognize and honor numerous black pioneers and trail blazing civil rights leaders in all 120 minor league communities, which is really cool. Honestly, like baseball and civil rights have kind of had a big place in history.

together. And I think at times with baseball, especially the black community has kind of at times had their contributions, kind of dismissed, you know, with the Negro leagues and everything that we've seen in the past. But, you know, it's been just such, baseball has been such a big part of us getting over the racial divide in this country. And it's, it's just really cool to see minor league doing something like this, minor league baseball doing something. It's, There's going to be tributes and celebrations, including Negro leagues commemorative games. They're going to be honoring all the Negro League teams like the Senators and Round Rock, Bradenton Nine Devils, Page Fence Giants, all sorts of stuff like that. But more importantly, it's also going to focus on creating new opportunities for youth participation in communities, in black communities, especially where youth baseball and softball programming is either non-existent or different.

to access. And I just, I honestly believe so much in this because it's so important, it's such an important part of the game, to grow the game, to bring the game to communities that the history is important to both baseball and the community. Also, just to bring the game to, you know, communities that don't have access to youth baseball programs and things like that. So again, it's it's uh with all the all the bad surrounding baseball it at least it's a uh really really good step in the right direction um and i mean i know it's coming at a time where civil unrest and things uh are are kind of at an all time high it seems like i mean it's it's it's not a it's not a it's not a great time in society so it's great for minor leagues to try to be reaching out

providing, you know, not only this opportunity to honor pioneers of baseball that haven't had a chance to be honored and Negro League teams and things like that, but, you know, again, the outreach program to bring baseball to some of these communities. It's really cool. Yeah. I mean, and at a perfect time, too, I believe February is Black History Month, if I'm not mistaken. And, yeah, I mean, it's just really cool to see some of these types of things happening in the game of baseball. I think, I mean, let's face it, baseball does not have as many black participants as some of the other major sports do, right?

And I'm sure there's a number of factors in why that is. But yeah, I think it's just really cool to see efforts like this being made. And it's also, there's also been an effort over the last decade or so to really try to bring Negro League history into kind of the rest of the history of the history of the game, right? For a while, those things were, we're kind of oddly separated. Absolutely. Yeah. Very, very oddly separated, right? Just like, just like, you know, racial relations used to be at one point treating it, you know, like, like, like we're two different things or, you know, separate, separate but equal and all that kind of stuff. And it never made any sense to me. All of this is history of the same game. And, you know, it's important for it to

be seen together and to be seen why like again this just kind of goes with the hall of fame stuff for me right like yeah i think at times they might be embarrassed by the fact that there needed to be a separate league for players of a different skin color and things like that right so it's not the it's not the thing that makes baseball look in the best light but again when you try to dismiss your history whether it's good or bad it just seems like you're you're trying to come cover up the truth, you know, we, we want to know the truth. And honestly, people, people are okay with knowing the truth. We, we get it. We know that it was a different time. Hell, I find myself saying it was a different time about like 2005, Jesse. Like, sometimes when I have to excuse

to people like television shows and comedians and stuff I like, it's because just 15 years ago was a different time as far as what was appropriate, what was acceptable, and what isn't, you know i i couldn't believe it the other day i was looking up episodes of it's always sunny in philadelphia and and there were episodes missing on hulu and i didn't know why and the reason why is because they were uh in those episodes they played like super racially insensitive characters and hulu made the decision to pull those episodes off of so it's like and that's that's that's that's a show that's still making new episodes right so it just goes to show how racial relations and the way people feel about things, what people are affected by, all of that has changed dramatically

over the years. But I mean, we're talking about a time where baseball literally made people of a different skin color play in a different league, right? And that's, yeah, that's not, that's not the most endearing, you know, history, but it's still history. And we need to, we need to know about it. We need to make sure that people know at one time that we were like this, you know? So I don't know. again, it's, it goes to like the whole thing of keeping some of the best players that ever played the game out simply because they are connected to scandals. It's no reason to say that they're still not one of the best players ever play the game, but tell the good and then tell the bad and let them exist. Let the history exist. That's, that's the way I see it. But again, it's a really positive thing. You know, and yeah, you bring up it is, it is Black History Month. And of course, that part of it seems like.

Like that's maybe even part of the downside, too, is because it doesn't, I don't feel like it needs to be Black History Month in order for them. Yeah. Right. It's like, oh, it's Black History Month. So you're sort of obligated to do something like this. Right. Like that part seems, you know, but, you know, I have, I have, like, some of my best friends in the world are black. And the first thing they'll say at times is like, well, you know, like shit, at least it's happening.

Right. And so like even if sometimes it happens during Black History Month or whatever, that, you know, that that might be the decision by the company or the corporation or whatever behind it. But at least it's still happening. And it's a very positive. It's a very positive thing for minor leagues because, again, minor leagues is, uh, minor leagues have a rich history. And I think that to celebrate their history, this is only going to help with that like we've talked about before, how baseball is this gigantic thing. and those minor league teams have a history in their own communities. They're beloved in their own communities.

And, you know, again, this helps everybody else a very positive thing. So kudos to baseball for doing something, right, I suppose. And of course, you can find out our thoughts. Once you become a member over at go phtnx.com, you can find out our thoughts on all this stuff on Discord. If you have any questions. This was actually a topic brought up by one of our listeners from yesterday's live show. So again, you guys bring anything to us that you want to talk about as a member in the members-only Discord. We'll absolutely love to talk about it.

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but what you can do is sign up for the month-to-month option, and you'll get your first month for just 50 cents. But Jesse, I was in Washington, D.C. I got very, very sick. But before I got sick, I did have a very enjoyable time in Washington, D.C. And I was kind of perplexed by some of their very strange laws, one of which was in regards to the sports book.

they did have advertised in the airport at our hotel everywhere that they did have legal sports betting in Washington, D.C., but you had to be within two blocks of one of their arenas, right? It's so random. It became, well, let me tell you. So this actually comes up now because the Washington Nationals are the first team in Major League Baseball to open a sports book connected to their stadium. So it is open.

I believe it is an MGM, um, uh, sports book. And they have the opera. You know, it's, it's,

it's a standard sports book. It's like a bar and stuff. You go inside. I know that the diamondbacks have had their sports book window through Cesar's open as one of the ticket windows. I actually place the bet through there because I thought it would be fun to have the little paper ticket and everything. So,

but that is merely just a window almost like, excuse me, the racetrack, uh, where you can go, up and just place your bet. And this is the first official like sports book, similar to what they are turning game seven grill into.

But I just have to give you my personal experience on this because after being in Washington, D.C., I totally understand why this was a necessity and why Washington, D.C., which is one of, from my understandings, the only state that has this weird kind of rule about the sports book, I went to go put a bed in while I was walking around. And I found the Nationals Ballpark. And I had a chance to go check it out, look around, look around the area. I couldn't get it to register my location as being within two blocks of the ballpark. I was standing.

I could touch it with my hand. And I was still getting an error message on my app that like, because you know how these goddamn apps work, Jesse? they never know where you're actually at. So it was like, it's like trying to find a Pokemon or some shit. You know, I'm over here walking around with my phone up, trying to get it to like let me put a bed in. Well, well, let's be real here, though. Draft Kings doesn't have any problems.

It's all the other apps. Those are the ones that can't figure out where they're doing. I wasn't trying. I actually, I probably should have tried Draft Kings. That might have been my issue. I was trying the apps that they were like advertising and suggesting there in D.C. Sure. Because I didn't know what was allowed.

You know, I don't know what was okay. Yeah. Yeah. Like sometimes, you know, the sports books aren't all in certain states. And I had the same incident happen because I was like, we were walking down the street. We randomly found ourselves close to, I believe, where the capitals play, that arena. So I thought when I was in and I had the same thing happen. Right.

So like I totally get it. And I don't know. I was looking around at other dudes and there were other guys walking around looking like they were looking for Pokemon too. So I have a feeling I wasn't the only one struggling with the geolocation and how close I was to the stadium in Washington, D.C. When I saw this story come up, I instantly thought of the struggles I had trying to do it. Now, I wasn't that dedicated to it. Like, I was out walking around. And I constantly found myself just coming across like landmarks and sightseeing things in D.C. as I walked around.

So it was more of like stumbling upon it and then being like, oh, I'll try to put a bed in. and it just didn't happen, right? But I definitely get with those very particular rules why it was important for DC to be the first, I guess, to be kind of in a rush to open a sports book. When you have these kind of geolocation rules, people can't be like rolling around in their cars trying to drive around the stadium to put in a bet or something ridiculous, right? Like, I get what they're trying to do. Like they're trying to actually limit it to people who get up, leave their house, and go,

to a sporting event. That's really what they're trying to do. And the two block rule, I'm guessing, is more for like you standing outside of the, you know, like giving you a little bit of leeway. Like you're in line out front waiting to get in or something, right? And you want to put in a bet. It just didn't seem to work very well. So I completely get why there was a sense of urgency to get people in some place where they know it's going to work. And they can even walk up to a human being and get a ticket printed out for them. That's, that's really interesting. Interesting. So is this part of nationals, the national stadium? Is that the idea? Yes. Like I think you can enter into the stadium through the sports book as well if you have a ticket when the stadium's open. Okay. But it's like, you know, it's like a bar. It's, it's exactly what game seven grill is going to be when it opens up as, I'm guessing a Caesar's because it seems like the Diamondbacks have a partnership with Caesar. So I'm guessing it's going to be a Caesar exclusive sports book. But I, I, I, I, I was struck. I have to say I was struck coming back to Arizona in, let's see, when would this have been? It was sometime last fall. The first time I came back to Phoenix after a sports betting, online sports betting was legalized. I was absolutely stunned by how many advertisements there are everywhere, how many signs there are everywhere. Like downtown Phoenix is just like a sports betting metropolis.

like there that's just there's just signs everywhere for this stuff. And it makes it makes sense because I have friends from California who don't have the easy access. I went to Washington and Washington has these weird rules. So like all of a sudden I started realizing what a luxury we have to just be sitting here

and have my feet up on the couch at home and see a son's game is about to start. And they're going into the draft king sports book and seeing that they're offering a promo on a game I was going to bet anyway. And they're like, hey, bet $50 or more and you'll get a dollar back in free bets for every three-pointer made, done. You know, and it was like it was a no-brainer for me at that point.

Other people don't have that ease. And then when they make it complicated, you really don't do it as often, right? And I think the whole point of all of this is trying to discourage people from becoming like degenerate gamblers. But it's kind of like when people were saying if you legalized marijuana, everybody was going to be high all the time, crashing their cars and just being idiots. And then they legalized marijuana and none of that happened. And people are like, wow, look at that.

People are responsible and like can use this thing that we criminalized and made into this big deal. Right. Gambling is a thing about using it responsibly. And again, when when there are offers being thrown out like draft kings throws out and things like that, they make it so it really does make the, you know, pleasant. But I mean, really, at the end of the day, people are, I think, more responsible than we tend to give us credit for. Like, everybody thinks everybody's going to slip into some sort of, you know, it's a slippery slope. And once you get whatever, no, actually, I know a lot of people

that once they, the initial, you know, thing happened, they, they bet a little bit. They threw some money around. And then like, it kind of wore off and like, whatever. Maybe if I watch a game, I might throw some money on it. But I'm not. longer throwing money on like lacrosse games from europe at three o'clock in the morning like those those aren't happening but you know it's it kind of calms down and and you know people can do this stuff responsibly i understand were you at one point throwing throwing bets on lacrosse games in europe at three in the morning so you just implied i may have bet on lithuania's women's basketball team to cover the spread during uh some sort of international quarterfinals play but that's nothing

Jesse. You're not making your point, Derek. I'm just saying it's all for fun. That's all for fun. But like, I get it. I get why they're trying to put these hurdles in place. And I get why they're trying to make it so that people do it, you know, like, hey, you're going to a sporting event or you're out. That's fine. But we don't want you sitting at home making the bets. All I can say is we've had fun doing it. And I know that it's kind of made me appreciate the ease of having it. But I don't really. make that many additional bets just because I'm at home. And even when I was in D.C. and I couldn't bet. I fully wanted to get dressed and drive like across town on a lift just so I could be next to the ballpark so I could put some bets in. Right. So I don't know what the idea there is as far as stopping people or if that's effective. I feel like it's inconveniencing people.

And yeah, in the middle of the night, I might not want to go go down to the stadium in order to throw a bet on. but I do, like I said, I definitely understand with the troubles I had why this was a necessity for DC. And I could see why it's not as much of a sense of urgency for us here in Phoenix, right? Even when my friend, like I had a friend tell me like, hey, did you put a bed in at the Caesar's window at Chase Field? I was like, no. He's like, why not, man? Isn't it exciting?

And I'm like, but I got the things on my phone. Like, yeah. But that's like, he's like a paper ticket. different. I'm like, is it like, I don't know. Like, I didn't have the same rush by going up to like an actual sports book and getting the ticket printed out so that I had it in my hand because it doesn't feel that much different to me than doing it on the app. But maybe to some people it does. Obviously, to my friend it did. So that's, but again, that's like anything. Once it becomes part of our normal life here in Phoenix, that newness wears off. And, you know, again, the advertising, I guess kind of

make sense, but I think for the most part, people decide on which sportsbook app that they want to use based on, like, how much trouble they have and, and, you know, the payouts and things like that, you get a chance to kind of try them all. And then you realize that the draft king sportsbook is the best sports book app. That's, that's the flat out truth. I get my money faster from the drafting sports book app than I do any other one. I don't have problems with like, I literally on the Caesar's app one time, like was in the middle of putting my bet and it changed the odds and stuff like while I was getting ready to press the button. I've never had any issue like that with the Drafking Sportsbook.

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