Picky Boys Podcast - Coming Out
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So here's what it was going to be.
We were going to be outside, super casual, talking like conversation type shit, you know?
Okay.
I wanted to feel like a conversation with just us, not like a podcast, you know?
All right.
And then God decided to just literally rain on my parade.
Literally rained on it.
And it was going to basically open, boom, boom.
Who was making that happen?
Well, you know, it's in my head, movies.
Okay, gotcha.
You know, it was an open, gay music in the background.
I don't know what that means exactly.
And then, like, we're just by the fire.
And then all of a sudden, I'm just talking about when I came out for the first time.
Because I didn't want to go and, like, look at the camera and be like, I'm gay.
Just did it.
You know?
Just did it.
But it was, we were, that was ruined.
So I think that's kind of what it has to be.
And what's this shameless plug, actually?
Because you find out why it was ruined on Patreon.com slash Vicky Boys, but I'm not.
Wow.
I'm not.
Wow.
I'm not going to lie.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
But that is basically what it turned into.
Yeah.
So we can still tell the story, but first of all, just get it out of the way.
I'm gay.
No!
No!
Well, not the gay part.
No!
No!
I was not expecting that.
That was very gay.
My ear's ringing.
I can't believe you just did that.
We just.
Ow.
We just.
Did you know that was happening?
Fuck you.
No, I didn't know.
I didn't know.
Woo.
We just had like.
Oh my God, there's gold ones too.
Oh no.
We just vacuumed all the popcorn out of here and now we have this.
Oh geez.
You knocked the gold one off that was on the ceiling.
Yeah, but there's a new one.
Yeah, you got it.
There's a new one there.
I can't believe I'm so mad.
You're cleaning it up.
I don't care.
You're cleaning it up.
Anyway, so where were we?
You said you wanted to say the story.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I love it.
I love the story.
Harking us back.
We were in, I don't know what, I keep trying to figure out what year it was.
I think it was.
It was sometime in 2007.
I think it was 2017, which is kind of a long time ago now.
Yeah, it is a long time.
I think maybe a year earlier.
Maybe a year earlier.
No, because you were back from being away at that point.
Or on the tail end of being away.
I was still away because I remember after that trip, I went back.
And basically, we went to this bar called McFadden's,
which is actually a national chain.
Didn't know that.
I think it's gone now, that specific place.
That specific one is definitely gone.
And basically, McFadden's has this deal that's kind of a scam.
Not a scam.
Well, it's a scam, but not.
It's like a great promotion.
Either way, you enter your number into McFadden's system, and then they'll text you with a free open bar.
Well, you enter into a sweepstakes, and then they'll text you and go, you won, in which they text to everyone.
That's why it's a scam.
Gotcha.
But you still get a free open bar.
If you bring four other people who can pay $25 for an open bar.
Right, but if you go four times and you alternate people, you get one free each.
That's true.
Anyway, so we were at McFadden's open bar.
We're drinking heavy.
Heavy, heavy.
Oh, yeah.
We's intense.
Oh, we're all drinking heavy.
Oh, no, we were all drinking heavy.
You want to guess the age?
Three, two, one.
Not the right one.
We're all drinking heavy, and there was some, listen, I don't know how to even describe this.
You describe this.
I got you.
Hot bartender, big tits.
Yeah.
I think you were capable of describing that.
That is what she was.
and she was like
she was
she was on you
she was on me
she was like
sucking my ear
I saw that for some point
and again
this is before we knew
like we were
what how old were you
we don't need
the specific age actually
but um
so
and I was with
everybody else
and I was like
god Danny's really
cause usually
sorry
cause usually when
no because
it was an interesting thing
cause usually when there's
a hot bartender
or an attractive bartender
whatever
they're kind of playing you
you know
it's like oh
cause they want a tip
or something
well I was tipping her
because I was just like, first of all,
I tip big at an open bar
because I want more drinks more quickly.
But I think she was getting something
and she was sucking on my ear.
That's what I was going to say.
And then you look over and she's like,
my headphones on his ear.
I'm like, oh, there's tongue in there.
It was weird.
I was freaked out.
And then at that point,
I was having my own mental crisis
because I was like, listen,
I'm fine being in the closet,
it but i'm not gonna pay for this like i'm not gonna pay extra money to keep up this charade
and and like pretend it's awesome and you love it yeah because i did not love it like first of all
weird stop licking people's ears oh well i i know you didn't like it if you're a bartender
why you just i did not say my name to this person why why why are you licking my ear who knows i
don't know who knows what kind of ears i got i'm especially i mean look at you i'm i'm weird with
ear stuff like i she might have gotten a bucking her no this no no this so like oh like it wasn't
a fist guys it was like well it was definitely an elbow strike it was an elbow strike you know
like that like that like if someone if you're if she goes like this and then you're like what
and then they just lick your ear you got you could you know that is true antonio if you give
him a wet willy you can't he'll punch you in the face first of all anyone who gives wet willy should
be punched in the face thank you thank you thank you that's fair okay very sensitive ears and so
so that was happening and i was just like this is this is all too much and my in in my drunk brain i
was like i can't be in here i can't be in this bar i'm gonna we're gonna switch povs my turn and
then out of nowhere after that happens like oh danny's having a good time four four seconds later
sprints out the door sprints full full like like this kind of like i thought he was moving people
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I thought he was throwing up.
I thought he was going to throw up, and I was like, the bathroom's that way, but he
was closer to the door.
So he ran out.
I don't know what happened at that point, but all I know is that I went outside, and
the bouncer just went, that's all he did.
He just went that way.
Your buddy's that way.
Yeah.
The guy that ran out, I went, and he was that way.
Well, our friend Robert followed me first, and so that's probably why the bouncer knew
where you were going.
Right.
and so basically
Robert tracks me down
and at that point
like that was the first time
I ever told anybody
and it just like
it's literally
it felt like
it was throwing up
like I didn't mean
to tell him
it's just like
word vomit
and so I told him
and then you come
and we're like
having a discussion
he's like
oh it's okay
like don't worry
blah blah blah
and I'm crying
well Danny cries
quite often to be fair
I'm an emotional man
he's an emotional man
and then
and then you guys come over
and as you come over
it's like
it's like fucking andy's coming you know like yeah like i just have to go back into what i
had been doing for like 20 years at this point yeah oh i just said the age that's okay around
all right yeah uh and and i as as soon as they walked over i just went god that waist just was
hot right and then i went no like no so dramatic i showed up i was like dude because i i just get
angry so so so i didn't know what was going on i'm just like why the fuck did you do that like
what are you a block away what are you doing i was just like what are you doing he went that
fucking bartender so hot right i went yeah and he goes before i because he asked me that question
and i and i was answering and while i was answering before i even got a word out he's like
no i couldn't i couldn't like no i couldn't do it any longer and then also robert the entire night
i didn't want that to robert where he's just like wants to ask questions and like obviously
something's weird why is danny crying yeah all this stuff and so i just told you and nick and
robert all in that day yeah and that was the first time which went pretty well i think it went fine
it went pretty the only thing that went wrong was you crying and running well everything else was
kind of smooth that's what happens and it's so weird because i knew it would go well with basically
all my friends and family so it's like just strange i don't know and then we just sat on
a random New York City block
in the middle of the sidewalk,
which I would literally
never do now.
Yeah.
Never would do it.
The circumstances called for it
because he was just crying,
but I would,
even I'd be like,
yeah, all right,
we gotta go somewhere else.
Well, first,
we were actually in the,
like, the public area
of a Holiday Inn.
Oh, they kicked us out immediately.
And we were like,
oh, immediately.
Yeah, they were like,
can you get out of here?
And we were like,
yeah, fuck you.
Because they know
that the bar's around the block.
They probably just thought
we were drunken idiots
and we were all of those things.
Yes.
And gay.
so so and then what we did was just go across the street and sat on the sidewalk it's all we did we
were just staring at the whole time the guy was just yeah the guy's like and i'll come back in
here it's like don't come close but yeah so that was the first time and then since then i wasn't
there you weren't there i was like at college or whatever i wasn't there the night so i didn't
learn totally then i went back home like to where at the time i was i think i was living in st louis
or san francisco and i was just i was i was just like i wonder what they think about that you know
it's like it's weird to tell somebody something that is like you know kind of alters potentially
what you think about them or just like how you see them potentially i think it's inevitable that
you go oh well well that part makes a little more sense now and then you go oh that's strange that
he did that at that time it's like oh well that makes sense now you know you start you go through
it all you go through it all yeah and then he just left he dropped that breadcrumb left well
not not not breadcrumb he dropped that whole pie yeah and then and then and then he just left he
went back to st louis and now we're now me and robert and everybody are in the diner the next
morning like oh that happened i guess yeah and then i don't know when you happened and then i
just by the way no no no uh just me for now and uh what the fuck is that we'll see we'll see what
the future holds you never know you never know up until that day honestly you never know that's
Because then they start dropping, like, flies, kind of.
Yeah.
And so basically after that, it's just like a one.
It's just like I've tried to get one person to kind of expand the circle, you know, all my close friends.
And that's just so – honestly, that was the part that pissed me off the most.
Just like, why do I have to do this?
Yeah, it's a lot of work.
Like, it's just – why do I have to do this to everybody?
It's so annoying.
It's like I – like, for so long, I was like, what the fuck?
Why do I get handed this responsibility?
Yeah, yeah.
Because I was only told once, he was only told once, you have to tell it 10 times maybe, maybe more.
Pretty much forever.
Yeah, pretty much for all ways.
You're doing another one right now.
Yeah, but this one's a big encompassing one because he doesn't want to do it anymore.
Yeah, this is like, I'll just have a link, and if anybody ever asks me, I'll just go here and watch this.
And it'll just be a clip of the rainbow confetti.
By the way, by the way, about this.
Yeah.
We planned on doing this outside
Wasn't going to do it outside
Because if you did
It turns into something else
I wasn't going to do it outside
I wanted this whole thing to not feel like a podcast
And just feel like a conversation
About gay
Yeah but you're too much of a performer
I know
An entertainer
But when did you tell him
I told him another day
Because I wasn't there for that
I would just take everybody on a little side tangent and be like, hey, just letting you know.
It's pretty normal circumstances.
Definitely 21, definitely very wasted, and definitely just on a random street.
Oh, I don't think I told anybody sober for the next five years.
Really?
Yeah.
That's fair.
There were times where I think, Danny, and this is where I agree with you.
I felt bad where, oh, he has to get to this drunk to even say it.
I'm like, this is a crazy thing to have to go through.
I don't understand it, but I get the feeling.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, it's upsetting, like, empathy towards you to have to do it.
I'm like, you know, because in my head, it's easy to go, oh, why don't you just do it?
And then you have to think about all, like, I get it.
Yeah, for sure.
Like, I get it.
So did you, like, you just, I'm hanging out with Chaz tonight.
The plan is, like, I'm going to get seven drinks deep.
That's what it felt like.
That's what it felt like.
I tried to make it just, I tried, well, I knew I wanted to do it to, like, all the close friends.
Because, first of all, you know, you don't hold a secret for so long.
eventually someone's gonna find out yeah and i was just i would just kind of like get drunk
normally and then i'd be like this feels like a good place stuff insert it you know well since
you told like the close friends in groups were you surprised that you were able to go back to
st louis or san francisco or whatever and like come back and they hadn't told each other yeah
i was pretty i was pretty surprised i wasn't told by anyone because the first time i did it too i
was like you guys can tell whoever you want so i just didn't want the burden which you tried to
offset the burden onto them i know that was his plan the whole time because because it doesn't
matter he's still a selfish man no no i'm still a selfish man i just did i just didn't want to
do it it's just like oh it's so annoying and so you think you think we felt that it was the right
place to really spread it no and then in the next morning i was also very drunk so the next morning
couldn't have been you guys asked me and i was like yeah don't tell anybody yeah which which
makes it do i'll never be friends yeah yeah yeah i had the receipts which which which makes it now
and understand it
because we're all friends
like you made us
share the burden
so it's like
you know what I've
had to deal with
for this long
now you have
the tiniest fraction
of peace
and it sucked
it still sucked
number one
I have a couple thoughts
I'm surprised you could
go through like
all of high school
and half of college
and be holding it in
I don't even know
how to explain that
it's just like
it's just you know
I don't know
first you gotta figure it out
within yourself
and then you have to tell people
and then you have to tell people
and it's just like
I don't know
you don't wanna
you just don't want people to think differently of you i guess to change it's kind of like
you know like uh you ever been to a party and like no you choose to you choose to keep your
coat on or like your hoodie on and somebody says oh take your coat off and then you just keep it
on and then like halfway through the party you're like it's fucking hot as shit in here i want to
take this coat off but you're wearing a shirt underneath that says i love men and so you can't
you can't take the shirt off
because then it's just like,
oh, now, now, now.
Wait, so is the coat the gayness
or is the shirt the gayness?
The shirt is the gayness.
The coat is the straightness.
And you're revealing it.
The straight coat, yes.
And you just asked me
if I've ever done this.
Well, no, no.
Not the shirt,
but everybody's been there.
Without the words on the shirt.
Everybody's been like,
you know, like,
oh, I should have taken my coat off
when they asked me to
and I didn't.
And now,
maybe this is just Danny brain,
but even if I'm not wearing a shirt
because I love men on it,
I'm like,
even if I'm not doing that
have you worn a shirt that says I love men on it
not typically
so even if I don't do that I don't like to be like
I don't know
my weird brain will say like oh I'll just keep
I'll just suffer in heat
so that I don't have to take the coat off
because then I'm going to
now I have to ask the person like
oh where's the coat rack
and then they're like oh you should have taken your coat off at the beginning
and now I have sweat stains it's a whole thing
it's a whole thing
this is not the analogy
I'm making it hyper-specific to him.
Yeah, you're making this so real about someone who left their jacket on.
I relate more to just the gay, like, the coming out thing
than I do to this weird analogy.
This weird analogy I've never experienced.
It's like having the secret you want to get out is way more relatable than your weird coat thing.
I thought this was a universal experience.
Which part?
The coat.
Either way, somebody will get me.
But then afterwards, it's like, I don't know.
Again, because this is, if that was 2017, this is eight years after that?
Seven years after that?
Yeah.
Could be approaching eight.
Depends on the month.
It was kind of cold, so maybe.
So the first time coming out, it feels like very impromptu, bartenders sucking you so you freaked out, whatever.
What was your original plan to come out?
You didn't go out that night trying to do it, right?
That's a good question.
That's a great question.
I didn't have one.
Were you going to hold this secret forever?
I didn't know.
I was still just trying to figure out.
Like I said, the first time it came out,
it was just like a mixture of drunkness
and it was just like, you know,
sometimes it just bubbles over
and it just like has to happen.
And so it just happened.
I don't know.
I really didn't have a plan to do so.
And then once I told some people,
it was like, first of all, it feels amazing.
That was great.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like, well, it's just like a bit of a weight
lifted off your chest and then you think,
oh, well, then there's every single other person.
So I told my friends before, I told my parents.
and now you've started to unravel this
and now you have to keep
going and telling people because you can't
you could but it would be
really hard to tell Antonio and Chaz
and Robert and then not me
so now you're forced to continue this
he kind of set off his own dominoes
yeah exactly you do knock down
a line of dominoes at some point
and now you're telling the picky people
yeah now you're telling the picky people
that's true and it took a while to get here too
we've been doing this for a while
but it just takes a while to go through because first of all after you come out there's like this
weird period where you're like have to dissect every part of your personality and like say like
okay was i is this like is this what i like who i want to be is this is is this me or is this the
the things that i was interested in or said i liked or this and that and the other to pretend
to be straight you know and so you just have to go through and like go off this checklist of like
you know which part is the mask and which part isn't right and so it's like it's a lengthy
process some more than others but i gave myself a deadline i was like definitely before i'm 27
which is really old i think relatively what did what why why why just because i just i just thought
like at the time it was a far away number yeah and now it's real now it's really close this next
month and so i it's in 23 days but i but i i drew the line and i was like i'm doing it and also i
just like i wanted it to be in my 20s so i at least have a few years of like of gay 20s even
though i've i've been having my years of gay 20s you know it's just like i don't know but but it
just still felt not genuine like i'd go to all these like pride events and i would just be like
this is awesome super proud just that and the other love being gay but if someone saw me here
and recognized me i would freak out so it didn't feel like very prideful you know gotcha gotcha
gotcha which and it's by the way do want to iterate it's not a bad thing if you're you know
everybody has their own timeline like there's no right or wrong way to do this and just as long as
you're safe you know to come out whatever that's you can do it at any timeline but that was mine
i don't know no for sure it was kind of you know and uh not i don't know if it honors the word but
it's like the point of having close friends is to share any burden that the other person's having so
whatever like the point of you announcing it at that time it's like okay now we share this
together and that's kind of the point of the friendship it's like oh whatever helps you a
little bit it's like all right let's do it let's rock and roll true and then when we started the
podcast there was like this you know it was to me it was a no-brainer but to everybody else i'm sure
it's like so now what do we we have to kind of like tiptoe around like whenever we've been talking
about like relationships or sex stuff like i've always kind of used like non-gendered language i
to say like they or this person i still think i still think that part's gonna continue maybe like
i i feel like oh yeah maybe not no i don't mean that i don't mean like oh that's not what i mean
i mean it's just it's easier to to speak that way i feel like in terms of like include everybody is
what i mean it's more what i mean but there were some instances where i was like oh we'll get into
those because you really pissed me off a lot of times like you pissed me off many times let's get
let's get let's get to those so essentially what happened was that when danny and joe danny
and joe came on to our podcast for the first time like we we had anything that size and we
had a segment that we were going to run which we did run you could watch it i think it's episode
77 maybe something like that 72 it was called know your danny yeah where it's a newlywed thing
about so it's me and danny and uh joe and danny lopriori and there were questions that you set up
it's like what age you lose your yeah it was what age you lost your virginity and who was your uh
Crush when you were younger
It was your celebrity crush
Celebrity crush
And
This fucking
And we lost
Because he forgot
All the lies he was telling
As
As soon as
As soon as that question was asked
I don't know
I haven't even watched that back
But like
In my head
It was like the Spongebob
Like you forgot his name thing
Yeah yeah
My brain is on fire
I was like
Who the fuck do I say
Like who are
Who are
Caught women
And celebrity women
I don't know
And this is
And it's not
It's really funny
Because it's something like
Totally out of date
And it's
and he did
he did
and it's not your fault
it's literally not your fault
but it's just funny
because
so they asked
what's your celebrity crush
and this guy
brother
this guy
used to talk about
Katniss Everdeen
every god damn day
I loved Hunger Games
and he loved the Hunger Games
and you know
I guess the Katniss thing
was you know
a mask or a shield
or whatever
or maybe you just
genuinely did like
I mean there's something
there's something like
pretty gay
and spectacular
about like just
a really cool
archery person
and so I was like
at least i can like her for that and pretend to like her sexually and that's my point that's my
point and let me reiterate i already knew like all of this yes so so he used to say katniss
everything katniss every katniss everything and then we gets to that question we lost by a mile
by the way because he kept forgetting like his lines essentially so i wrote katniss and he goes
emma stone yeah right and and joe even or danny even comments on it and goes emma stone what is
It's just 2010 or something.
And that comment on that answer was completely correct.
First of all, Emma Stone.
Beautiful one.
Shout out to her.
You could say she's pretty.
But, like, that part was funny because then all the comments,
if you read the comments on the video, it's like,
I really love Joe and Danny's relationship because, you know.
They know each other.
They know each other so much more than these other two
who have known each other for so much longer.
Well, here, we've got to get the boards out.
Let's run it back.
what's the actual answer i don't know them i don't know there's no male version no male actual
answer i don't think so you said that you were kind of dissecting your personality and like
removing parts that you faked to be straight that's a good question so what did you pretend
to like that you didn't like because you thought it was masculine catniss everything was that one
of them well no it's just like i don't know it's just like this is gonna say i'm just like a crazy
person right now but but but it's like literal research of like what time out what what do you
say like you can't use the word literal when it's you you said you're saying literal research and
that's what you're going by like literal research of like how labias yeah basically basically i was
kidding no like like how like like men would talk to each other about having sex with women
I swear to god
like I went that far
brother
we were
I went that far
because I was just like
I need to
I picture Danny
walking into like
while we're all hanging out
he walks in and goes
dude I was with this girl
with the nicest labias
last night man
it was crazy
dude we were
at that age
we were
none of us knew
what happened
that's not true though
bro we had people
who we know
had sex with a woman
talking about it
and us not believing them
because of how wrong
I understand that
but I was just like
again I was trying to keep
I was trying to dot every I
and cross every T
and there's a lot of other stuff too
that like
I don't know
maybe it wasn't that
it wasn't as much as I
pretended to like things
as much as I
pushed away things
that maybe I would have liked
but are too
like are a little too gay
like I want to know like what
like what'd you push away
like not
because that's like
figure skating
that's upsetting
yeah figure
my figure skating career
would have been incredible
first of all
you should see my sow cow
would love it
the fact that you don't
you know what that is
I almost believe you
I don't know
like I
and I've
the good thing is that
a few of our
other friends
in our friend group
actually happened to have
an affinity for this
so it was okay
but like I'm a sucker
for like
really like
pretty stereotypically
gay girly
pop music
and like I would
kind of be like
you see
the over
and I get it
I get where you're
coming from
but the overthinking
was so extreme
that there's a 4,000% chance
that 90% of the things
you pushed away,
everyone enjoyed anyway.
No, I mean,
I know that,
but for sure.
Until you get into like,
oh no,
this specifically,
only this group of people
know or something.
Yeah.
Like me and Chaz
and even you,
we would all like
fucking blast the lyrics
to Ironic.
Yeah, yeah.
And that could be perceived
as girly pop.
Yeah, for sure.
But like that's fucking,
we love that shit.
But it's just,
so it's stuff like that.
And I don't know.
I don't know how
any like specific examples but it's stuff like that where it's like maybe i do like this and
i just don't know because i never tried it because i didn't want it to be like a red flag or rainbow
flag i could see i could see the overthinking thing and yeah no for sure and you know i'm a
notorious overthinker yeah really yeah so sometimes i would just feel like this is like this is a lot
to just like hide the secret like what are we doing here did you ever feel like we were onto
you not really no you're like these idiots have no idea we we always used to like joke about like
oh if you were gay how would you come out and i always used to say i was about to say this and i
always just say that i would invite everybody to a party and in the front of the party would just
be a huge closet and then and then we'd all be hanging out and then like an hour into the party
i'd burst through and confetti cannons everywhere and so this is close enough for me this is this
is my big this is my big closet that would have been awesome i would have loved that i mean after
about 20 first of all you're waiting too long within an hour first of all yeah yeah as soon
as i walk into any kind of room and i saw i'd be like there's something wrong with the closet
also also maybe a cake as soon as you say cake makes sense but if it's big enough be like danny's
in the cake no yeah i mean i if if there's somebody's in the cake everybody knows someone's
in that cake yeah if it's a big enough for there to be someone in the cake you know always assume
someone's in the cake
always assume someone's
in the cake
don't get close
I assume someone's
in every cake
that is three tiered
that's a rule of thumb
that's a rule of thumb
especially because
it's on the table
because you can do
that magician trick
where you just come
through the table
yes yes yes
also if I got invited
to a party by Danny
after 15 minutes
and this is at his house
presumably
and after 15 minutes
of him not being there
and there being a closet
in the front
you go
yeah
for some reason
I didn't picture my house
I pictured like a rec hall
like a gym
I didn't
I pictured
not rec hall or house
but a ballroom.
Yeah, like a ballroom.
You know, where you hold
sweet 16s and weddings.
Yeah, yeah.
That's basically
what we want it to be.
even more
if I walked into that
and you made me get
a suit
and I'm like,
there's someone in the closet.
Someone's in there.
Someone's in that closet
right there.
So,
didn't exactly hit the mark
but,
you know,
I like the way
it turned out.
We had to do this
because it rained
torrentially
and God hates gay people.
That's the only
It's a conclusion I could draw from that.
Which this is all, you could see this all on last Wednesday.
Sorry, last Thursday on Patreon.
On Patreon, yes.
Patreon.com.
I can't believe you did a Patreon plug at the beginning of my coming out video.
Using his gayness for Patreon, slick business move.
First of all, we're doing it on here anyway.
Business goes on as usual.
It doesn't change anything for me.
Danny's Danny.
I don't care.
We're plugging everything.
That's true.
I'm not changing how I am.
The one thing I would also like to say is that all of my friends, incredibly, incredibly nice.
You're great guys.
Yeah.
He pointed at me and said, I'm great guys.
You're great guys.
They were all nothing but loving and accepting,
as I thought they would be.
But you never know, really.
Honestly, you never know.
But I knew.
And they were nice.
And so was your family.
And so was my parents.
So, I mean, we have a good time here.
I'm saying more like I would like you,
coming from how us three share this platform,
like something that you, like an advice you would give
or like your final thought to send it off
of how maybe it wasn't so bad
or there is something that you're worried about
and it didn't come out quite that way
but it still was okay in the end
or something like that.
I don't know how to word this question.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
Well, first of all, obviously,
I think I touched on this earlier,
but it's a journey.
I'm still on that journey.
Who knows what new gay thing I might like
that now I can out-open the open like.
So you just got to take it easy on yourself
and just, you know, just do it at your own pace.
And also, for everybody else, it's like, you know,
it seems very accepting, especially in New York City.
Like, we live in New York City.
Like, there is no other place that I could rather be
where I would be, like, more accepted.
San Francisco.
San Francisco.
And I moved there, still was in the closet there.
That's true.
That was sign number one, really.
So I think basically it's just like,
if it took this long for me,
like it takes a long time for a lot of other people
and a lot of people are in the closet and never
come out and so that's
why like all this stuff and
people being gay and pride
and all this stuff is like important because it shows
people like hey this is good and
if I didn't have those events
who knows when I would have come out maybe never
so it's important and you know
you never know what's someone who could see this
and think oh well
if that big dummy did it
I could do it that would be awesome
if someone felt better because of this
That would be great.
What more can you ask for?
Truly.
True.
And you said you didn't want it to feel like a podcast,
so we can't really sign out.
Well, now it does feel like a podcast.
I feel like it felt like a podcast.
I feel like, was there anything I wanted to say?
We never really – there was one thing I wanted to touch on.
No, we can keep going.
No, no, this is the end.
If people always ask, like, when did you know you were gay?
Okay, okay, that's a good question.
And, like, if the gay agenda exists,
it's in the underwear section of a Macy's or JCPenney.
That's when every gay boy goes, what the fuck?
What the fuck?
What is that?
It's like a hall of just gayness and scantily clad men,
and you're just like, oh, my God.
I don't know these feelings I'm feeling.
What's funny is, I mean, it inherently is different,
but it is no different from when we were the same age
walking through the Victoria's Secret part.
And it's like, God damn, look at those.
Well, the thing is, I can be there.
I can be in the aisles and be like, look around.
First of all, you could be in that aisle.
Speaking from experience, creep.
First of all, window shopping.
Window shopping.
You don't know what underwear I'm wearing under here.
Yeah, so I don't know.
I think that's all I have to say.
No, you know what's going to happen?
What's going to happen?
Like how everything happens.
It's when you're in an argument or you're in a moment
and then that moment
you're in the shower
hours later
it's always in the shower
it's always in the shower
hours later
it really is
and you're like
damn I really wanted
to touch on that
but in life
you can never really
touch on everything
it'll be an evolving journey
so that's that
fucking come on
Pokemon over here
yeah
I am evolving
you can't wait
to see me in my final form
that's
that's Dragon Ball
oh whatever
what's more confusing
what's more confusing
about me is that
you did all this
in that hat
I hate that hat
it's terrible
I was doing my
straight cosplay today
that's what
this is Carhartt's shirt
a fucking hunting hat
this is a straight cosplay
yeah but he matches
this is also
no but he matches it
all the way from the button
to the hat
to the Carhartt letters
to the shirt
all the way down to
don't show them
it's the details baby
it is the details
it is the details
what can I say
I have no idea how to end this
I'm counting on you
I have no idea how to do it
you started
you gotta end it
complete
full circle
full circle
This was all a joke
I'm gay, I'm gay, I'm gay
I can cut it there
I can cut it there
Maybe not
I'll leave this part in too
Who's cleaning this up because I'm not doing it
I'll do it
